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October 9, 2025 22 mins
Los Angeles Rams outside linebacker Jared Verse and defensive coordinator Chris Shula discuss preparing to face off against different calibers of quarterbacks this week. Wide receiver Puka Nacua and offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur talk about facing impact players like safety Kyle Hamilton on the Baltimore Ravens defense this Sunday.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You have a week like this where you're trying to
probably someone say felt for Mr like what do you
observe or your practice as and trying to make the
decision where he's going to get those friends.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, you know, just execution, guys, playing hard, you know,
communicating everything we want, you know, the guys, And obviously
we're always trying to get our best eleven on the field,
whether that's different packages, different things that we can do,
so you're always kind of looking at that.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
We're always rolling in guys.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Greg Williams does a great job kind of developing depth
and rolling those guys in so you know, they always
know they're a play away to play.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
So you know, it's the same thing every single week.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
What does Omar bring to your defense that you appreciate?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
He brings a calmness. I was talking to Laman. That's funny,
you ass I was.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Talking to Laman about him last week and how how
much he loves playing next to him, and uh, he
brings a calmness. He's stout, he's tough, he's extremely smart,
he communicates great, he's physical, so you know, we know
who'll be back him.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Nay has always kind of been you known as like
a run stopper. But what have you seen from his
to impact the game in coverage and is that something
that you expected to see from him.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
He's got a great feel in coverage, he really does.
You know, He's got a great feeling zone. You know,
he sees, he's great plays, great vision off the quarterback,
He communicates, he understands route concepts, he understands how one
route affects another.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
So he just has a great feel.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I don't know if I necessarily expected that, but we
saw it pretty quick in OTA's so we're happy to
have him.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
How would you evaluate the play of the secondary to
this point in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I think they've been really good, you know. I think
each play, each game is its own entity. I think
we can do a better job as coaches putting him
in some better positions. I think we've had some tough matchups,
some isolations sometimes where you know, whatever you're doing on defense,
where you get you know, you got to maybe win
a one on one here and there, and uh, but
you know, we're really happy with how they're playing.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
How does a situation where Kello was kind of supposed
to be like the big physics and the corner that's
party fight. When he goes down, how does that kind
of throw off the quor degree.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
On bunkers, Yeah, no doubt. And and it's a matchup
based league. And you know, Kello was a great player
for us and and and obviously still will be. And uh,
just like when anybody goes down, and and any week
you're playing, it's different matchups, different receivers. Obviously, the Ravens
have a lot of different steal sets and a lot
pose a lot of different problems then than the Niners
would or anybody else we played. And that goes you know,

(02:22):
every single week, no matter who's playing.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
I know you put on the other side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
But what you Remembrotly and Holland when he was here
as Oh, he's a great friend, great friend of mine.
Our wives are really close. We you know, we still
keep in touch, text talk all the time. You know,
he's a great coach, he has a great vision. The
main thing that sticks out to me about him is
he's a connector, he's a people person.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
He gets along with everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, he was assistant receivers coach, but he was
a guy that you know, everybody on the defense knew
and and everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Loved the whole the whole coaching staff. So you know,
he's just a great guy.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
Some of the Jacksonville players have described like a fiery personality.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Is there a moment where you saw that.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I've seen some of those videos and I definitely agree.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
You know, you knew he had it in him, you know,
but obviously in his role here, it wasn't necessarily You're
not necessarily everyone's looking to you to inspire a whole team.
But uh, he's definitely a guy that you know, he
can get guys to believe in because he knows football,
he loves football, and those guys are following him.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
How what's the challenge when you're preparing for a team
and a guy like possibly Lamar Jackson or could be
a guy who's completely different if he doesn't play for
you as the defensive coordinator, Is it just all about
concepts or how do you differentiate?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's a great question, Gary, It's you got to be
ready for everything, and uh, and that's our job, you
know as the defensive coaches, is we got to put
our guys and and have the preparation to put him
in the best spots. And uh, you know, it's definitely
a challenge, definitely different styles, and you're gonna treat him
definitely depending on who's playing.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
So you got to be ready for both.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And if that means us kind of stand late and
doing some extra work, then we're definitely gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Where's Seanda Love?

Speaker 8 (04:01):
Draft Development?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's doing awesome. He's been repping really no matter what
kind of getting in the reps every week.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Obviously he's playing.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
He'd been playing scout team and you know the look
squad for the uh for the offense, and but he's
just he's just a study. He's doing a great job
and uh, you know we're excited to do uh, you know,
excited about him.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
He was the one member of team undrafted this year.
Where did he do at Cantor and his.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Spin on his froster, He's you could tell pretty early
that the game wasn't too big for him.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
He's like we were talking about with Omar.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
You can talk almost talk to him like a coach,
even though he was a real young player that obviously
hasn't played much yet.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
But the game makes sense to him.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, you saw it in practice, he saw it
in o tas how easy it was for him, and
then he obviously went out in the preseason and played
really well and was able to get guys to the
ground and tackle and was physical and we're seeing it
on special teams right now and.

Speaker 9 (04:58):
You're playing a little bit more. What you mean by
talk to him like a coach? Does that just mean
like less time spent on like explaining concepts or what
exactly does that look like?

Speaker 10 (05:06):
Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know when you yeah, exactly what exactly what you're
saying is to you know, you might say a concept
and you can just tell he gets it right away,
and then you know he's in here studying and looking
at the tape and he's in here early and and
you can tell he's already kind of like when you're
installing stuff in front of the room, he's already kind
of heard it and you're just kind of saying it
for the second time. And then there's some you know,
it's everything what guys can handle. You know, you always

(05:29):
take the approach of every single individual player of given
him all the information that they can handle. And he's
a guy that can handle a lot of information. When
you look at this ultimorte count.

Speaker 8 (05:38):
Once you're on.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
Run well, one thing I know is every time going
to Baltimore hasn't been a success. I've never won there.
That's a tough place to play. These guys got a
lot of pride, you know, and I mean, let's keep
it real, they had quite a few injuries, you know,
going into the last week. You watch that week one
and what these guys can do and what they've fished

(06:00):
work we've done, you know, in the last few years,
and then you know, obviously over the last probably three decades,
it's one of the best defenses. They have a lot
of pride, their coach extremely well, we're gonna get their
best shot.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
And you know, we know that when when you're facing
a team that has a lot of injuries like forty
nine ers did last week, Sure, how do you prevent
that from creeping into your players life?

Speaker 7 (06:24):
And this is the NFL, I mean you gotta every
week is going to be a dog fight.

Speaker 10 (06:28):
You know.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
So guys, organizations, units, they got too much pride, too
much respect for this game. So you know, our guys,
they got to go into it every week like this
is the toughest opponent that you're going to play, because
it is. Every Sunday is so hard. So you know
that's not gonna be a problem for our guys.

Speaker 9 (06:47):
You know, you're used to working with primarily experienced tight
ends at least in your time here. But what are
some of the landmarks that you look for and say
a rookie Titans development like Terrence in terms of you know,
the progression and development and.

Speaker 10 (07:02):
You know, having the trust to put them out.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yeah, we ask a lot of our tight ends, right
And that's I mean kind of across this league. I mean,
you've got both phases. You got the run game, you
got the pass game. There's a lot of detail that
goes balved right there, you know, so you just kind
of see how they fit as it just goes through
a series out and in and again. We're evaluating practice
right like and dating back to August into OTAs, so
you know, just kind of how well they kind of

(07:27):
move and shake throughout the huddle, get to the line
of scrimmage where it just looks like, man, they've been
doing it and he's a smart dude. He's surrounded by
a very smart coach and a lot of you know,
guys in that room that are have played a lot
of good football.

Speaker 10 (07:38):
So they've gotten them up.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
To speed and you know, whatever tight ends out there
for our group, we feel very confident in.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Have you noticed that progress out of Terrence things are
seeing him able to pick up or do now that
maybe in the summer was not as good.

Speaker 10 (07:52):
I don't know, necessarily schematically.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
I think it's just again, like I've said, a lot
of these young guys just getting used to the speed
of the game. He played some big time football, sure,
there's no doubt, and throughout his college career and had
the production you know, to back it up.

Speaker 10 (08:04):
But again it's just a different league.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
So just understanding, you know how fast these windows are
going to close, how fast when you catch a ball
you're gonna have to transition how you have to you know,
just keep on fighting and grinding when you're attached in
the run game, all those little things that he is
more than capable of and has shown.

Speaker 10 (08:20):
But again that's an adjustment.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
It's like one thing to see, it's another thing to
go do it and then consistently do it to understand
and you know, like where he's at.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
When you see the catch he made in the when
he finally played in the preseason, and then the catch
he made the other day. What kind of goes through
your mind in terms of a tight end with that
kind of.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's just not too big for him, right,
And I mean that's the first and foremost obviously, you
guys see the ability in terms of just the flexibility
and the gate that he has, you know in his
lower half, you know, eating up space and all those
kind of things. So again, there's a reason that Lesson
his team spotted him, you know, whenever they started evaluating him.
I'm guessing back when he was in eighth grade. But no,

(09:01):
I mean there's you know, again very happy that we
have them, you know, in this organization. He's only gonna
continue to prove he's made of the right stuff. Like
he's he's a good dude.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Third year together and you are like, what does that
experience or experience allowed them what to do in terms
of like exports different things.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
Yeah, you just get used to people's body movements. You
get you know, for for receivers, particularly the guy like Matthew,
just because he's not looking at you, you know, when
the ball's being thrown doesn't mean it's not coming your way, right, Like,
I mean, just all those little things of getting used
to him but then also obviously from a quarterback perspective,
the way that Puka is gonna come out of a cut,

(09:42):
it's different than Tay, is different than Tu two. And
so I mean that's what all those reps are, like
you can't get and they don't, but you just can't
get bored of, you know, starting in April when you
don't even have the pads on yet, you know how
you're banking those reps to get used to each other
so that when it comes to Sunday, man, it's your
milliate rep.

Speaker 10 (09:59):
You know, you just have to go, you know, do
it at the right time.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Now, as Kyle Hamilton so difficult to prepare for, not
just in terms of his skill set, but in terms
of like how he's used in that team.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yeah, I mean he's in the back end, he's at Nickel's,
he's all over the place, and you know, like you
just said, his skill set is he's got a unique
size to him right in length. And that's you know,
dating back to obviously Notre Dame, no doubt, but like
when he was a rookie he was a problem. I
can only imagine he's seeing the game even better and better,
Like you just know, when guys are instinctule and they're

(10:31):
extremely smart, and they're in such command because of how
fluid they play and they're always around the ball. I
got as much respect for him as a defensive player
as I do as anyone in this league. You know,
he's he's got all those all that physical skill set,
but he matches it with toughness, being in the right
place and all the things I just said, So crazy
respect for the dude.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Last year after hiring.

Speaker 10 (10:52):
It, clumbled a couple of times talking to us. It
seemed like he was very hard on himself.

Speaker 9 (10:56):
What did you see from him last year?

Speaker 7 (10:58):
As he responded to that mentally tough dude? You know,
I mean we trust him. His teammates trust him, which
is more important. You know what doesn't go un noticed
I think from anyone, but particularly for me in a
fourth down situation, in that next drive, who got the
ball and who made a big play for us to
give us a chance to get into overtime? You know
he did because he's just that kind of guy. He's

(11:20):
the next next play kind of guy. So he's, uh,
he's only gonna be better for it and our unit.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
To any conversations with him after the Thursday.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Same conversation I have with all these guys after just
love you, appreciate you, and let's go.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
It seemed like yesterday, you guys, at least in the
portion of the practice that we saw, there was a
specific emphasis on ball security in terms of different drills
with your offensive players going through them. Was that something
that you guys do regularly or is that something that
you decided we need to kind of have some reminders.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Yeah, I mean we did a ball We do a
ball security drill every Wednesday and Thursday during the season.
You know, we did it all August, so I mean
that's that's just constant reminders. And you know, everywhere I've
been we've done something like that. So no, there's again
our our guys know, you know, and we'll be better
for this.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I know that he's look because he's kind of working
his way down.

Speaker 10 (12:14):
Good.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Good first day yesterday, you know in terms of obviously
i'd uh last week getting ready for a short week,
so you know, not much evaluation there, you know, because
we just had that one day and it is it
is a shortened day, so good to getting back out
there and you know, kind of that full Wednesday practice
today will even be a bigger step for for him
because we got the pads on, so it's gonna feel

(12:35):
more like it is gonna on Sundays and uh, you.

Speaker 10 (12:37):
Know it's good. But it's good to having back. It's
a good problem that we got.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
It's kind of how it can proved about the team's
energy these last two days to go back to South
Dall and great Away the last week starting line.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Yeah, no, I mean, what's so far removed from it,
but uh, we definitely had a couple of days. You know,
everybody had the weekend to kind of sit on it. Now,
you know, it's a whole new week. You can't worry
about the pass It can't change the passing in the
video a game. We could just skip back and go
back now. Yah, move on from me right now. We
focus on the Ravens. That's all that matter.

Speaker 10 (13:03):
It's that easy to have that time to No, that's hard.

Speaker 8 (13:06):
I mean, we hear like everybody else, it's hard to
have a short memory. When something bad goes on in
your life. You get fired from a job, you you know,
a family member dies, something bad happens in your life.
It's hard to kind of just move on from it.

Speaker 10 (13:15):
But that's what you have to do to.

Speaker 8 (13:16):
Grow in any aspect of any job and any occupation.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
This as a young player, this is gonna be the
first time I think you got You'll be going somewhere,
play a game, stay there, and then go travel, you know,
across the world basically. So how does that, if at all,
impact your weekly kind of routine.

Speaker 8 (13:36):
I don't really change my routine at all. The only
thing that changes is I have to bring my PlayStation
somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
But in terms of like body work, in terms of
physical stuff, no.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
There's no change.

Speaker 8 (13:47):
I mean, I don't think there's gonna be cha. I mean,
we have to say good care when they're gonna get
putus in some good facilities, give us the opportunity to
do everything that we do here same there, you know.
I mean, it'll probably be it'll change a couple things here,
and then the aspect of you know, me watching film.
I'll probably bring my eyepa. I watch a lot more film,
you know, on the iPad instead of coming here to
watch film. But that's probably the only thing to go change.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Is there any part of you about picking a matter
camp play out the second bay. He's disappointed to not
get the opportunity this side.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I'm curious about it.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
I wanted to play at Lamar just because, like, you know,
he's one of the best quarterbacks you know, like currently
and then also you know, you put him in that
conversation of not just running quarterbacks for quarterbacks ever, like
he's up in that conversation. Well you know, it's also, uh,
you have to play differently when he's not playing. You know,
we're still going up against the NFL quarterback. He's still
very good. He still can't get the ball out fast,
get the ball out too who he needs to. So
it just brings a whole different set of challenges.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Do you have about the bucketing guys who want to
tell you that.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
Yeah, Pat Mahomes Lamar is definitely on there. I want
to get Josh Allen. He owed me a couple, but uh,
I thought Tom Brady was gonna come back, so I
thought I was gonna get my shot at him. But
now that there's a couple of dudes in the league,
I definitely got my eye on that. I want to
get at least one time.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
When you talk about the different challenges that you know,
someone like Marblesens versus you know what you know, how
do you prepare to play against both who doesn't make
sure that you're ready for anything.

Speaker 8 (15:06):
I mean they're both they're both very accurate quarterbacks. They're
both able to get the ball out to who they
have to. You know, Lamar, the challenges he poses more
than anything is his ability to run. But you know,
when you still take away his ability to run, he's
still a great passer. Like people are calling him like
a running back coming out of college, Like I don't
think that's really a conversation no more. Like he can
throw it, he can run it, he can throw on
the run, he can get.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Rid of the ball.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
He doesn't take you know, sacks so often like that
where he's able to get it out. So you know,
he throw he poses the challenges like that. But Cooper
of Rush, he throws a lot more different challenges at you.
He gets the ball out a lot quicker. He kinda
knows who he's gonna get it to. If he's not open,
he's gonna move on to a second read pretty fast.
Like He's got a whole differsat challenges that you gotta
attack differently.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
When you're playing teams that are have a lot of
guys out with injuries, maybe even lineman that you're gonna
go against. Is it difficult to kind of let that
creep into your mind that you're playing against maybe an
undermanned opponent.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
No, nah, No, I mean I've been on the receiving
end of it where we played teams with you know,
guys that were down and you you know, you kind
of go like, oh yeah, and then you know you lose.
And I've been on the receiving end where we had
guys down. The teams style it was gonna be easy,
and we went out there and destroyed them. So it
doesn't matter how you kind of pose everybody in the NFL.
You know, you don't slip up one day and just
wake up, you know on the you know Ravens or
on the rams like you got wait to get there.

(16:20):
So these are NFL guys and you gotta attack him
just like that.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's so excited about this Reagans defense.

Speaker 10 (16:27):
I think there's some familiar names, uh.

Speaker 11 (16:29):
I think of some of the koops I've played against,
the Kyle went Away out there, and then obviously seeing
some of the stuff with Kyle Hamilton, and it's a
familiar face that we've seen in a Lohi Gilman who
just was signed over there, and some of our joint
practices with the Chargers, so it'll be exciting. And then
obviously seeing some of the stuff that Number two is
put on tape last year, and then just watching how
they've played this year.

Speaker 10 (16:49):
I think it's gonna be.

Speaker 11 (16:50):
An exciting challenge for our wide receiver room and then
especially just for our offensive hole just to be consistently
executing throughout the whole game.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
Last time this team was in Baltimore, think it's the
first and only time in your career at this point
you've played without gloves and you had the you know
that diving your handed catch like among you know other
plays that you made. Just what do you remember about
that game?

Speaker 11 (17:14):
The ra the rain being like flooded the field like
early on in the game, and be like, all right,
so we're definitely wearing the studs today, but yeah, just
kind of like the ebbs and flows, the game felt
like we were moving well.

Speaker 10 (17:24):
And then I also think about.

Speaker 11 (17:25):
Some that there's a there's some some plays I feel
like I left out there that could have been a
huge impact in our play. And then also think about
that was my guy young Davis's kind of breakout game
out there, and it was fun to just be able
to make plays with somebody who we'd seen the kind
of the growth and the progression we've been working together
as rookies, but it'll be exciting to go out there
and make some new plays for the cut up.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Was there no one your rookie of the year wearing
about like you?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Then?

Speaker 10 (17:48):
Trust I think, uh, well, I think it's fun. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (17:56):
Probably Week one in Seattle that we ran and we
had a kind of like an an RPO route. Where
after was after I think I had missed my first
kind of target and the second one was just kind
of a read of depending on where the defense was,
and just remember it just kind of feel like, oh,
I should probably kind of screwed away from this guy
in the ball was like exactly where I was getting
ready to go, and we kind of we ended up
having a good gain after that, and be like, oh,

(18:16):
I think he's thinking kind of like me, so I'm
thinking like him and.

Speaker 10 (18:19):
It ended up working out.

Speaker 11 (18:20):
And then I think the communication has just expanded from there.

Speaker 10 (18:24):
When but happe and kinds.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Something stats don't have, but now he was offense statistically
one of his best parts of his career.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
Is there anything you've noticed in this year that maybe
seems about team for his career.

Speaker 11 (18:38):
I think I wouldn't say that too much has changed.
I think he's still got a pretty good bounce of him.
I think his his demeanor is just always so consistent.
I think it allows for us to operate as a
as an offense and as a unit collectively an insynct
because we know how consistent he's going to be, the
way he communicates, the way he's going to talk, and
it doesn't just get.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
Out there when we're out there.

Speaker 11 (18:57):
I practice the walk he was in in the meetings,
things he says after coach speaks, to be like, hey,
this is how I would communicate it, this is how
I'm going to do this. Just those things in that
consistency that's carried over throughout the years. I think it
makes it as somebody else who's trying to learn and
figure out, so much easier to move forward on things.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Do you feel like he's having fun out there?

Speaker 10 (19:15):
I know his demeanor.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
He talk about his demeanor, kind of notice it in
other areas to seem like something funny.

Speaker 11 (19:21):
I think so, I feel like I mean I think
he likes enjoy being around us young guys. I know
me and too, to get to spend time with him
in the morning and where they're we're not dealing with
the same things when we go home and we're talking
about playing two K or what but on Instagram or
something like that, and he's like, yeah, you know, my daughters,
we were doing math homework and we're learning about pemdas
and stuff like that.

Speaker 10 (19:40):
And I'm like, oh, sweet, don't ask me for any help.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
Do you have any personal routines or in terms of
body worker routines that going on this trip, which is
going to be an extended trip, will be impacted and
if so, how how do you plan to kind of
adjust O.

Speaker 11 (20:00):
I'm not I'm maybe bad at looking at some of
the team messages, but I'm like, I'm sure they'll have
a sauna and coulds have and the things that those
are some of the things that I know that are
big for me. But then just like I wear my
blue light blocker glasses, I take those every time we
travel and stuff like that. I kind of help me
with some of the sleep, so I know those will
be a hydration and sleep. And then also if I
got the sauna cultov combination keeps me in line throughout

(20:22):
the week, So that'll be a mandatory whether.

Speaker 10 (20:24):
They have it or I'll find a way.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
How physical of the role that you've had so far
this season, did you find the mini buy helpful? Do
you feel I guess more rejuvenated or do you feel
any impact from it?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (20:36):
Yeah, I think mentally more than anything, and kind of
just the stress relief. It kind of was just to
be like, I enjoy watching football while I'm here in
the facility and especially while I'm playing it, but yeah,
not really think about anything going on on a Sunday
kind of is a weird feeling. Your body kind of
wakes up and you're like kind of got some deuces
flow and I'm like, it's all right, I can today.

Speaker 10 (20:53):
It's a chill day for me.

Speaker 11 (20:54):
So it was nice mentally and just how my boy
kind of how that mental kind of freedom is relax
my body getting ready to come in this week?

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Did you do anything to sort of, I don't know,
take a mental break or get away from all of that.

Speaker 11 (21:07):
I got to see some of my family, so my
my brother and my sibling had a newborn baby, so
to be able to see them was a fresher breath there.
And to be able to see my nephews who are
running around trying to teach them how to do something
or watch them do some backflips and stuff like that.
It was pretty fun to see them and the kind
of the young energy that they have in rided me.
I'm like, I got to be this for Matthew, so

(21:27):
I'll be back. I'll be back with bouncing off the
walls for there were maybe a couple I wouldn't say
they were completed, and we were figuring it out.

Speaker 10 (21:35):
I was watching. I was like, don't do it like uncle,
you can do better.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Matthew said yesterday that your versatility is your superpower. Do
you agree with that or is there like a specific
part of your game that you think is, you know,
kind of like your superpower.

Speaker 11 (21:52):
I feel like everything when I think about my game
just comes back to power and strength. I think those
are whether that yeah, and how that is involved in
my game, in the in the route running and in
the run game. I think there's an element to that
is a slightly different in kind of each aspect of that.
But trying to be a complete wide receiver, which is
involved in the past game and involved in the run game,

(22:13):
and executing for my teammates. And yet I feel like
that's what that is my my standard that I'm always
trying to set.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I know you said that Matthew didn't like it when
he called it a cert as a rookie. How do
you feel about the car and the kid.

Speaker 10 (22:28):
I guess I never really think about it.

Speaker 11 (22:30):
I'm like, honestly, I'm like, I'm sure like there's if
you were to have a young kid, I'm like, I
could be his. The age difference is probably right around there.
But I think I never really noticed it. I think
I know it's funny. I feel like I hear him
saying it. I'm like, I think I like it a
little bit better than Buddy. I'm like, Buddy, I'm like
everyone sometimes he says that. I just like, I'm like,
do I say anything, But I'm like, kid is cool.
I feel like I'm like, yeah, I like that.
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