Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay talks about where he has noticed the Rams have improved since the beginning of the season. Quarterback Matthew Stafford and wide receiver Davante Adams discuss facing a San Francisco 49ers without linebacker Fred Warner.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, if you guys are good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
As far as injuries are concerned, Jordan Winnington's back's a
little bit sore, kind of tighten up in the game
the other day. We're gonna be smart with him, so
he'll be off today, but you know, I expect him
to be able to make good progress, and you know,
he's a he's a tough dude, and kind of being
smart with him. And then as far as Pooka and
Darius still both be limited, but they are, you know, looking.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good for the game's image come back good. Yeah, he
was good.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So the soft Warrior, I'm just kidding. He's so dang tough,
but he's good. Is good positive stuff on the scan
and he's as tough as it gets and he's feeling good.
So we're anticipating and excited about him being ready to roll.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Can you take us through the moves you've made at
least tent of these guys to the practice squad?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Why? And yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Really, I mean, you know, we kind of talked about
some stuff after the game, Gary, and you know it's
all geared towards trying to be able to just get
you know, some solutions and some kick consistency. Really with
our field goal operation. And so I think it's important
to be able to have good competition at some spots
that we feel like we can, you know, have improve
play to be able to evaluate all eleven. And so
you bring Jake mcquaide in, you bring another kicker in
to be able to work you know with you know,
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he and Josh will compete to see who's gonna kick
for us this week. And if all things go well
with with Jake, we expect him to be our long snapper.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So what will be the process of kind of like
evaluating the kicking and competitions.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, we'll implement more than we normally would on a
Wednesday and a Thursday and truly be able to kind
of use it, you know, for a competition.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What is it about Jake effectives your competence that he'll
be ready to go on such short notice.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
He's done it before, familiarity with him, you know, and
so we'll you know, he's obviously going to earn the
right to be out there, but if he looks like
we would anticipate in what he looked like yesterday when
we ended up working out you know, two other kickers.
Things are trending in that direction.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
How do you handle conversations about moves like that with
Alex and Josh respectively, understanding that some of that stuff
may be privately but to the extent.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That, yeah, I think, just honest with empathy and and
you know, try to be able to provide clarity. I
think you always use the caveat too that. Uh, you know,
my job is to be able to make decisions that
are you know, best for the collective. It doesn't mean
I'm always right, you know, I've certainly, you know, made
a lot of you know, wrong decisions, but the intentions
are always in the right direction, and you just try
to be able to let them know here's what the
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thought process is. Here's why both those guys were total
studs about it. But again, you know, this is this
is one of the most challenging things is being able
to figure out our a you know, who are the
best guys to be able to you know, execute the
plan and be able to bring it to life. And
you know, certainly there's a lot of layers to everything
that's going on in that phase, but those are two
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areas that you know, those guys have done a lot
of really good stuff for us, but we want to
be able to see a little bit more consistency in
those arenas, and I think these guys will be here
to be able to push them, and then that allows
us to be able to make a decision and have
some actions that are in alignment with being able to
move forward and hopefully you know, a positive manner.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Any uh, any area or.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Two that you've seen notable in growth since you've been.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Forty niners, you know, I think that there's been a
lot of growth, you know. I think the way that
these guys work, Lindsay is you know, there's you know,
you always want to be able to improve throughout the
course of the season. But I think the way that
you know guys have played on offense and defense, I
think there's been real positives. In the kicking game. You know,
we only punted a couple of times the other day,
but I was really pleased with our coverage against an
excellent returner in Shaheed when we were in.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
A backed up situation. I thought Ethan did a great
job of.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Being able to pin him deep with the first punt
that we had. And then, you know, I think the
biggest thing that I would say is I've been pleased
with the way that we've started fast, you know, played
good complimentary ball, been able to jump out to some leads.
Inevitably you face some wolves or whatever. But I could
go through a lot of different things. But I just
think the total command that guys have and the ability
to be able to just consistently develop a rapport and
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be able to strain to finish. I think that's been
on tape lately.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
And what about what have you seen?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Uante Adams Reson?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What have you seen.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There?
Speaker 7 (03:56):
You go, that's right, That's what I've seen too.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You know, I've seen a guy that's been deliveredring on
is on the times that his number has been called,
and I think, what's great, And we've talked about it
a lot. You know, he and Matthew have just been
continuously working. They're getting on the same page. I think
that's been a real positive for some of the uptick
in the production in the red area. And I think
that's where you've seen the points go. I've never been
a guy that cares at all about stats. Points are
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something that are important. You know, that's the only way
that you win. Last time I checked, and so you know,
when we're able to finish drives in the red area.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I think that's been.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Reflective where you're able to see thirty five and thirty
four and there's still a lot of opportunities that we
felt like we've left out there, which is a positive
thing where there's a lot of growth. But DeVante's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's been if it's a really tight race atop the
division right now, like what do you say to the
team going into this second match up with.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
San Francis one day at a time. You know, it's
such a long season and there's still so much ball
left to be played. This is an excellent opponent we're playing.
We're familiar with them, you know, we played them pretty recently.
But you know, it's always a great challenge. We know
that it's going to take you know, sixty minutes and
then maybe even then some like we know what happened
on the Thursday game, and so I think we try
to have a consistent rhythm and routine and approach that's
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geared towards us continuously improving while acknowledging what are the
things that we need to do going against a specific opponent,
both personnel driven and tactically. But our guys are excited about,
you know, continuously taking steps to where we can improve
throughout and I think that's what the good teams do.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Is this among the best stretches you've seen Stafford play
since he's been here.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
And he's playing really well.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
He's played a lot of really good football throughout the
course of his career. But I think what I'm currently
seeing as a guy that's in total command, that's not
any different than what I've seen in previous years. But
what I think, you know, everybody makes a big deal
about these numbers, but what I do think he's doing
a great job of is you know, he's not leaving
the ball, you know, in harm's way either. Sometimes you
get away with you might have low picks, but you
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might have had some turnover worthy plays. You know, he's
been really great with that. I think he's got full
ownership on what's going on. And you know, something as
simple as getting you know, the eligibles on on the
line of scrimmage on a third and two? Did you
get a kick out of that? Gary got a little
edge to him, doesn't he? But he is, He's been awesome.
I think he's playing excellent football. But there's a lot
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of instances that I can point to when he's played
great football and that's why we're fortunate to have him
lead the way.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Is that kind of language that he was using on
the field, do you use that in the mic where
you're talking to your quarterback?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Have you ever dropped those? What would you guess? Gary?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know? And I'm trying to watch my.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Language a lot more.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
My kid repeats everything that I say now, so I
gotta be real careful about that. And I get I'm
definitely not the head coach at home, so I don't.
I can't get away with that kind of stuff. So
you'd have to ask Matthew that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The other day with the manual, you brought up Aubrey
Pleasant and just a relationship they built.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Just what could you expand on that?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Just what kind of relationship have you seen the two
of them have and how has that played into forest development?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I think one of the things that's special about Aubrey
is he develops a real relationship with his players, and
it's not exclusive to the defensive back room. I mean,
he's the assistant aad coach and as you know, great
relationships with the whole team. You can see the way
the guys respond to him. But you know, I heard
John wouldn't say before people don't care how much you
know until they know how much you care. And Aubrey
epitomizes that. You know, he gets to know these guys
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as human beings.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I love sitting in the dB meeting rooms. You know,
when there's an element of all right, hey, we're gonna
get our work in, We're gonna understand what's the goal
in mind as far as the tactical is concerned. But
he usually always takes time at the beginning of the
meetings to be able to, you know, say, all right,
let's get to know each other as people. Might be
a fun thing. It might be guys being able to
open up and be vulnerable. And he always starts with himself.
And so he's a he's a great teacher, he's a
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great coach, great communicator, and he's in it with him.
You know. I think the guys feel that, you know,
we talk about all the time when you really mean it,
you know, for the most powerful words you can say,
I believe in you. And the way Aubrey coaches and
the way he pours into those guys, I think they
feel it, I'd like to think. I think I've heard
him Manuel talk about that and and he challenges guys too,
you know. I think because he loves them, they enable
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him to be able to coach him hard and they
know where that comes from. And it's not by a
mistake that guys usually play their best ball under his
guidance and leaders sit alrighty, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Matthew talked about how the ball felt the coming out
of your hand on that throw the touchdowns to Pooka
on Sunday, Like can you kind of elaborate on what
that means, like especially on those deep balls, like how
can you know you feel like it's going where you're
trying to put it?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (08:26):
I mean certain times you cut it loose and you
feel like you put it, you know, in a tire
swing right where you wanted to.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
And other times you maybe feel.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
A little less certain maybe about where that one, you know,
as far as timing up with the receiver and where
it might end up.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
So I'm looking for all of them to feel really good,
you know, hopefully they do.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Sometimes they don't, and guys make great plays on it
and whatever, but always feels nice when guys up front
do a hell of a job. Give me time and
step into a throw and it goes right where I
wanted to. And obviously, Pope do a hell job of
a hell of a job of completing that one.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
How accurate is that feel?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
When it feels good, is it always good?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I mean majority of the time.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yeah, Like the result may not always be you know
exactly what you're hunting up, but sometimes you know, you
put the ball up on the defense, as I say,
and they do a nice job too, But it's always
good when you can get more more, uh more of
those than than not feeling feeling good.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
In terms of developing, you know, the ball comes out
of your hand a little bit different the guys like
Aaron Rodger. There are certain quarterbacks that seem to just
have very tight spin, great touch. Is that something that
you always have had since you were a kid or
did you have to go through development to get to
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that point? What's kind of led you?
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I think I developed it. You know, obviously had.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Natural ability as a kid, and I was always trying
different arm angles and stuff and playing baseball and shortstop
and throwing it around and turning double plays and throwing
it down by my knee and all those kinds.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Of of things that I think aided in that.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
But I think if you look back at how I
played the game when I first got into the league,
probably a whole lot more fastballs.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Than there were change ups and and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Layer balls, you know, it was I might wait till
the next window and just hammer it through then rather.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Than now, I might layer that one, or I might wait.
You know. I feel like I've developed a few more
pitches probably throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
How did your earlier coaches feel about those arm angles?
Speaker 8 (10:27):
Like most of the coaches I've been around have been
really you know, receptive to just knowing that I'm playing
the game with feel. It's not something that I predetermined
I'll catch a snap and.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Go, why don't we throw this one? You know, sidearm.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
You know, sometimes it's a you know, block division or
or I'm trying to get around a guy or whatever
it is, or my feet are off, or I'm having
a move in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Other people outside of I feel like the.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Buildings that I've been in haven't always been in love
with it, and that's okay. I feel like it's now
probably more accepted than it was back then for guys
to change our angles in Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
He's got a lot to do with that.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Probably people rightfully so have a lot of respect for
how he throws the ball. And he's had a ton
of success as a player and as a team, and that,
you know, that helps.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
You've talked a lot about the offensive line and how
good of a job they've done keeping you clean.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
How much of an impact do you feel like Colvid
Shelton has had on them being able to play as
a cohesive union.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, I mean he's another coach out on the field.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
He's outstanding in his ability to communicate, you know, make
adjustments on the fly, and then he's playing at a
high level too.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
So when you come you combine those things.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
I feel like on the offensive line, when you can
go inside out with great communication and everybody's on the
same page, that's when you have your best chance.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
To go out there and play well. You know. I
think those guys are.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
A you know, have a great understanding of what we're
trying to accomplish on every single play. B have a
great grasp of some of the looks that we expect
to get. And then if we get something, we don't expect,
because we get that, probably more so than than some
other places I've been. You know, how do we adjust
on the fly and make it right, you know, and
and then just go out there and physically play great
wish I've been doing Matthew.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Seven catches in the red zone, all suffering touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Uh, he's doing a great job of getting open down there,
and Uh, I'm putting in some some spots where he
can go make his plays. And that's awesome. I think
our coaching staff does a great job of, you know,
finding ways to you know, let his skill set come
the light down there. And and I mean he's been
doing it for a long time in the league, especially
down in the red zone. He's got one hundred and
something touchdowns and and it's really impressive to see what
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he can do in a small area, both.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
At the at the line of scrimage and at the CATCRN.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Just Carrious growing up, did you have like any ideas
what you thought it would.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Feel like to be thirty seven years old or some
around thirty seven years old?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I don't think I ever thought that far ahead. No,
I surely probably didn't think I was gonna.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Be playing NFL football still at thirty seven, and my
when I was a kid, there weren't too many guys
that were still doing that. It happened a little bit
more now, I think, with you know, just the way
the way that guys take care of themselves, the way
the rules are set up, all that is a little
bit more conducive to playing for a little bit longer.
But I'm sure happy to be doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
To touch on what Lindsay said, the connection with Davante,
and if you take a look big picture at the season,
you know, you guys didn't have any time together during
training camp. What do you make of looking, you know,
a big picture at the team, the success, and where you.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Guys are at now?
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean I'm excited for it. Obviously, like you said,
I missed a ton of time in training camp. I
thought Jimmy did a hell of a job keeping our
guys sharp and getting us ready to go. And I'm
really appreciative of him for that. And you know, our
group did a great job and got ready to go.
And then obviously I was able to come back in
kind of late in the game there and and feel
good enough to go play, and then I've just been
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trying to, you know, continue to try and play better,
develop and and you know, just whatever the coach is
asking me to do, I'm trying to go out there.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And do it.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
How different is facing that forty nine Ers defense without
Fred Warner in the middle of it.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean to be honest with you, I'm not
sure that I've faced him when he hasn't played yet,
you know, So, I mean I know what it's like
facing him, I can.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Tell you that.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
And Uh, he's as good a linebacker as there is
in the league. His ability to cover up some of
the stuff that they ask him to do, you know,
in some of their middlefield open coverages, uh, you know,
is second to.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
None in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
I think with both his ability to move, his understanding
of what offenses are trying to do to attack him,
all of that is at a at a.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You know, an elite level.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
And then you know, the communication, the physicality, the you know,
finishing off on plays, all those kind of things is
as good as it gets. So playing against any defense
with with Fred on it is, uh, is a huge challenge.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Development.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
It's exactly what you just said.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
I think he's continuing to develop, and you got to
give him a lot of credit. He's put a lot
of work in. You know, he's a guy that has
a natural skill set. He's a you know, really talented
play He's done a nice job the last couple of
weeks of you know, hey, here's your role this week,
and can you go out there and master that and
make the plays when you get the chances and go
out there, compete, have fun, do all the things that
we want you to do. And he's done a great
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job of that. And I think he has three other
guys in that room and a coach that he can
really lean on, you know, to kind of show him
how it's done. And and he's absorbed that information and
that feedback and done a great job of translating that
onto the grass.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
The twenty nine yard completion to DeVante, that no look
you had on that big route that he ran, just
I imagine there's more than just like basic surface level
of communication that goes into the timing of that in
terms of just the ball coming out of your hand,
the moment he's breaking on his route, just just you know,
what's that collaboration or that process been like and being
able to you know, really get that connection to the
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point where you guys are making place.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Yeah, I mean it's all it's all just reps and communication.
You know, the more reps we get, the better it's
gonna be.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
And then we're always communicating, talking to each other, you know,
giving each other feedback on you know, what feels right
and all that. And he did a great job of
just getting to the spot in the coverage that they
needed to get to in the timing and the rhythm
of the play and was able to put in a
good spot for Okay, thank you, nikshitch.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Having grown up not far you know from where the
forty nine ers are playing, what was kind of your
experience growing up? I mean, were you a forty nine
Ers fan? And what does it mean to go back
to the Bay Area?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Similar to how I feel about him now, never really
liked him.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
I mean it's you know, and then naturally going to
the Packers that was kind of like our rival other
than I mean, you could say to Bears, but we
didn't really look at that like like too much of
of a rivalry game. So but yeah, I mean all
jokes aside, though, I mean, it was it was a
team that since I've been in the league, they've been
in our way, you know, with the Packers, they beat
us a few times in some some pretty meaningful games,
so it always brings out a little bit more aside
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you and then going going back home, obviously being in
the front of home crowd. It's always been fun to
play those games in front of my my family and
and you know, like I said, my home crowd, some
people from high school going out there and everything. So yeah,
it's it's a it's a meaningful So you got.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Hold at all when you hear your Gonzala or something
all time touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's like, nah, it feels good. Man. That never gets old.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
Obviously I'm not somebody that plays for for that or
for the praise or you know, the acknowledgments are certainly
not you know, for anybody's approval, but it's it's something
that means a lot to be mentioned with great players
that you know, you look at at some of the
lists that you know, my name has been mentioned with.
It's all hall of famers that are attached to it.
So it means a lot. But you know, just like
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I tell everybody that's been reaching out recently about you know,
touchdowns or you know, team success. We say we're gonna
we're gonna keep climbing and look up when you know,
when we get to the top, so or when it's over,
you know. So, uh, that's kind of my mentality.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I'm honestly Matthews, like do passes here reaction.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
In real time or.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Well in real time, I look for the football to
make sure I can make a play on it, and
then after the fact.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I mean, I'm always wild by.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
It's something that I'm starting to become accustomed to see
a little bit more with him, just because I mean
he uses that like it's not like a specialty weapon.
That's like one of his go tos at this point,
and that says a lot about him to be able
to use that. That's something that he does as consistently
as he does, so I love to see it. He's
usually manipulating something to make a bigger window for us
to run through, so I love to see it.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
It might not even to young here, but when he
throws those like what are you looking at?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
When he without.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
I mean the same thing as if he was looking
at me. At me, you know, it's the same thing.
Just finding the quarterback and he's just staying on the move,
staying ready.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Where he's No.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
You can obviously see that, but once you look back,
you find in the target and you know, nine times
out of ten, the balls already gone before before I
look at him. Anyway, that's you know tipic how we
work on it to for the time and the other play.
So a lot of times, I you know, sometimes I
may not know, you know, like that one, I didn't
know that it was no look until you know, they
were talking about it and I saw the replay up
there after. So yeah, I mean the ball came out
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so perfectly on time that you know, I turned and
it was right there ready to get caught.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
Wait for you get seven touches in the red zone
and they're all touchdown.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
What's working alone for you?
Speaker 9 (19:25):
And I mean we just we've been finding a way
to you know, marry up the plays that we run
out of certain personnels and find some one on ones
playing a number game basically if they want to go
one on one and we like that matchup, and then
you know, if they want to make the you know,
travel somebody out there and play a bracket or a
double team or vice however they want to do it
then you know, obviously we got numbers there too.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You know, they either run it or run another play.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
To play, like that big route where Matthew releases the
ball so early in your route and you were able
to connect on it. Like, what does that tell you
about where you guys saw in terms of still things
a connection you've talked about these pastures.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
You know, it don't always work every you know, whether
he's looking or he's not looking, it doesn't always work.
But once you start getting no look passes from Matthew,
that means.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
He trusts you.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know, he's got a good understanding of where you're
gonna be and knowing that you're gonna be in a
spot you're supposed to do at the time he's supposed
to do. So that's something that we've been working on
and obviously it's starting to, you know, pay off a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You've had the good fortune of playing with two of
the maybe best pure passers.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
In the NFL in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
What's it like? What's different about those guys in terms
of the way they release the ball From a receiver's perspective.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
I mean, nobody throws it the same so I mean
it's it's gonna be different for everybody, but I mean
they both utilize the no look. I think Matthew probably
has a little bit higher volume up no look passes
than what Aaron would do. But Aaron's just got the
ability to spit the ball out, you know, with not much.
You know, he'll see something last minute and just let
it fire. You know, He's got that type of quick release,
a lot of torque, a lot of corp to you know,
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get the ball where he wants to at the last minute.
So that's something that he and I worked on a
lot of times where I may have a route that
was fifteen yards on paper, and one route versus a
certain look, I may make it at twelve or eleven yards,
and then another one if he's super far off or whatever,
I may have to push it to sixteen, you know,
just based off of that. And he had the ability
to kind of sit there and wait on it and
read my body language and you know, fire a good ball.
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And Matthews a little bit more regimented of how he
does things as far as you know the details of
the you know, knowing exactly where to be. But with
that he's gonna put the ball where it needs to be,
you know, nine times out of ten there as well.
So they both got their superpowers and they use them differently,
but you know, it's never one of the things where
one one is better than the other.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Is apples and orange.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Is truly you've seen thirty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Thirty eight.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
No, he's I mean, you don't see any of that
until maybe take off trying to run or something like that.
But for the most part, I mean, he looks like
he can go out there and sling it with the
young guns toll.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's mess ups.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
How different from what you've seen on TAM Is this
San Francisco defense without Fred Warner.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
In the mix this week?
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I mean, anytime you take Fred off the off the field,
it's gonna be you know, different. For sure, I wouldn't
say that it's I mean, that's still the defense that
they are. They it's the way that their coach. It's
just the way that Fred has led them to be
over there. So you know, no matter who's in there,
we expecting them to be able to play the same
type of you know, same brand of football. Maybe not
exactly like Fred would play, but you know, guys, are
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still gonna be flying around.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Back to what Gary was asking about, Aaron Matthew, What,
in your eyes is the key to them sustaining the
way they've played for as long as they have the
ones that are at that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Level, Just that, that cerebral approach to the game.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
You know, It's it's one thing to have an arm
and be able to throw, but you don't get into
that's a prerequisite to play quarterback in this league. You
gotta be able to throw the football, you know decently.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
They critique everybody and act like certain guys can't throw
it well, but they can all throw the ball. It's
just about how well you can, you know, get on
the same page with guys, how much you're willing to
work through whatever. You know, what he and I have
just because of the bumps we've had.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
With injuries and stuff like that. Early.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
So anytime you got a guy that cerebral about the
game and understands the small you know, a little different nuances,
not letting certain things slide that are you know important
as to why you know even a twelve yard curl
works out, you know, just understanding you know, Tay, I
need you to be on the you know, outside edge
of the numbers, inside the edge of the numbers, or
breaking at six steps versus you know eight. You know,
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those type of things are real important to him and
how he sees the game. And you know, that's that's
a big reason why I kind of got to be
the cerebral player I am is because of playing with
guys like Aaron Rodgers. And he's a lot of the
same as far as the details. Maybe not exactly what yardagees,
but honestly, that's something you gotta work to where you
can start playing, you know, with with your depths on
routes and you know, different techniques and stuff like that.
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But yeah, he's a he's a guy that obviously knows
a lot about the game and it has a lot
of experience and play with some great receivers too. So
being able to take different things from different guys and
implement it into the way we do it here is
that's that's why we're able to make it look like
we do.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I mean, that's a.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
That's an offices or a team's best friend. Really, I mean,
you gotta you obviously, and it's the kicking unit. It's
not the it's not a kicker it's it's there's so
many pieces to it. The protection snap, the holder, you know,
the confidence of you know, putting that confidence.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Into your kicker.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
So you know, our kicking game and our field goal
unit hasn't been where we wanted to be this year obviously,
but it's so many pieces, more than just one person.
So we gotta we gotta make sure we find a
way to rally on that, but optimistic that we'll figure
it out for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Cool
Okay, if you guys are good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
As far as injuries are concerned, Jordan Winnington's back's a
little bit sore, kind of tighten up in the game
the other day. We're gonna be smart with him, so
he'll be off today, but you know, I expect him
to be able to make good progress, and you know,
he's a he's a tough dude, and kind of being
smart with him. And then as far as Pooka and
Darius still both be limited, but they are, you know, looking.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good for the game's image come back good. Yeah, he
was good.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So the soft Warrior, I'm just kidding. He's so dang tough,
but he's good. Is good positive stuff on the scan
and he's as tough as it gets and he's feeling good.
So we're anticipating and excited about him being ready to roll.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Can you take us through the moves you've made at
least tent of these guys to the practice squad?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Why? And yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Really, I mean, you know, we kind of talked about
some stuff after the game, Gary, and you know it's
all geared towards trying to be able to just get
you know, some solutions and some kick consistency. Really with
our field goal operation. And so I think it's important
to be able to have good competition at some spots
that we feel like we can, you know, have improve
play to be able to evaluate all eleven. And so
you bring Jake mcquaide in, you bring another kicker in
to be able to work you know with you know,
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he and Josh will compete to see who's gonna kick
for us this week. And if all things go well
with with Jake, we expect him to be our long snapper.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So what will be the process of kind of like
evaluating the kicking and competitions.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, we'll implement more than we normally would on a
Wednesday and a Thursday and truly be able to kind
of use it, you know, for a competition.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What is it about Jake effectives your competence that he'll
be ready to go on such short notice.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
He's done it before, familiarity with him, you know, and
so we'll you know, he's obviously going to earn the
right to be out there, but if he looks like
we would anticipate in what he looked like yesterday when
we ended up working out you know, two other kickers.
Things are trending in that direction.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
How do you handle conversations about moves like that with
Alex and Josh respectively, understanding that some of that stuff
may be privately but to the extent.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That, yeah, I think, just honest with empathy and and
you know, try to be able to provide clarity. I
think you always use the caveat too that. Uh, you know,
my job is to be able to make decisions that
are you know, best for the collective. It doesn't mean
I'm always right, you know, I've certainly, you know, made
a lot of you know, wrong decisions, but the intentions
are always in the right direction, and you just try
to be able to let them know here's what the
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thought process is. Here's why both those guys were total
studs about it. But again, you know, this is this
is one of the most challenging things is being able
to figure out our a you know, who are the
best guys to be able to you know, execute the
plan and be able to bring it to life. And
you know, certainly there's a lot of layers to everything
that's going on in that phase, but those are two
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areas that you know, those guys have done a lot
of really good stuff for us, but we want to
be able to see a little bit more consistency in
those arenas, and I think these guys will be here
to be able to push them, and then that allows
us to be able to make a decision and have
some actions that are in alignment with being able to
move forward and hopefully you know, a positive manner.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Any uh, any area or.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Two that you've seen notable in growth since you've been.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Forty niners, you know, I think that there's been a
lot of growth, you know. I think the way that
these guys work, Lindsay is you know, there's you know,
you always want to be able to improve throughout the
course of the season. But I think the way that
you know guys have played on offense and defense, I
think there's been real positives. In the kicking game. You know,
we only punted a couple of times the other day,
but I was really pleased with our coverage against an
excellent returner in Shaheed when we were in.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
A backed up situation. I thought Ethan did a great
job of.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Being able to pin him deep with the first punt
that we had. And then, you know, I think the
biggest thing that I would say is I've been pleased
with the way that we've started fast, you know, played
good complimentary ball, been able to jump out to some leads.
Inevitably you face some wolves or whatever. But I could
go through a lot of different things. But I just
think the total command that guys have and the ability
to be able to just consistently develop a rapport and
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be able to strain to finish. I think that's been
on tape lately.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
And what about what have you seen?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Uante Adams Reson?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What have you seen.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There?
Speaker 7 (03:56):
You go, that's right, That's what I've seen too.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You know, I've seen a guy that's been deliveredring on
is on the times that his number has been called,
and I think, what's great, And we've talked about it
a lot. You know, he and Matthew have just been
continuously working. They're getting on the same page. I think
that's been a real positive for some of the uptick
in the production in the red area. And I think
that's where you've seen the points go. I've never been
a guy that cares at all about stats. Points are
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something that are important. You know, that's the only way
that you win. Last time I checked, and so you know,
when we're able to finish drives in the red area.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I think that's been.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Reflective where you're able to see thirty five and thirty
four and there's still a lot of opportunities that we
felt like we've left out there, which is a positive
thing where there's a lot of growth. But DeVante's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's been if it's a really tight race atop the
division right now, like what do you say to the
team going into this second match up with.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
San Francis one day at a time. You know, it's
such a long season and there's still so much ball
left to be played. This is an excellent opponent we're playing.
We're familiar with them, you know, we played them pretty recently.
But you know, it's always a great challenge. We know
that it's going to take you know, sixty minutes and
then maybe even then some like we know what happened
on the Thursday game, and so I think we try
to have a consistent rhythm and routine and approach that's
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geared towards us continuously improving while acknowledging what are the
things that we need to do going against a specific opponent,
both personnel driven and tactically. But our guys are excited about,
you know, continuously taking steps to where we can improve
throughout and I think that's what the good teams do.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Is this among the best stretches you've seen Stafford play
since he's been here.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
And he's playing really well.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
He's played a lot of really good football throughout the
course of his career. But I think what I'm currently
seeing as a guy that's in total command, that's not
any different than what I've seen in previous years. But
what I think, you know, everybody makes a big deal
about these numbers, but what I do think he's doing
a great job of is you know, he's not leaving
the ball, you know, in harm's way either. Sometimes you
get away with you might have low picks, but you
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might have had some turnover worthy plays. You know, he's
been really great with that. I think he's got full
ownership on what's going on. And you know, something as
simple as getting you know, the eligibles on on the
line of scrimmage on a third and two? Did you
get a kick out of that? Gary got a little
edge to him, doesn't he? But he is, He's been awesome.
I think he's playing excellent football. But there's a lot
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of instances that I can point to when he's played
great football and that's why we're fortunate to have him
lead the way.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Is that kind of language that he was using on
the field, do you use that in the mic where
you're talking to your quarterback?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Have you ever dropped those? What would you guess? Gary?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know? And I'm trying to watch my.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Language a lot more.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
My kid repeats everything that I say now, so I
gotta be real careful about that. And I get I'm
definitely not the head coach at home, so I don't.
I can't get away with that kind of stuff. So
you'd have to ask Matthew that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The other day with the manual, you brought up Aubrey
Pleasant and just a relationship they built.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Just what could you expand on that?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Just what kind of relationship have you seen the two
of them have and how has that played into forest development?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I think one of the things that's special about Aubrey
is he develops a real relationship with his players, and
it's not exclusive to the defensive back room. I mean,
he's the assistant aad coach and as you know, great
relationships with the whole team. You can see the way
the guys respond to him. But you know, I heard
John wouldn't say before people don't care how much you
know until they know how much you care. And Aubrey
epitomizes that. You know, he gets to know these guys
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as human beings.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I love sitting in the dB meeting rooms. You know,
when there's an element of all right, hey, we're gonna
get our work in, We're gonna understand what's the goal
in mind as far as the tactical is concerned. But
he usually always takes time at the beginning of the
meetings to be able to, you know, say, all right,
let's get to know each other as people. Might be
a fun thing. It might be guys being able to
open up and be vulnerable. And he always starts with himself.
And so he's a he's a great teacher, he's a
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great coach, great communicator, and he's in it with him.
You know. I think the guys feel that, you know,
we talk about all the time when you really mean it,
you know, for the most powerful words you can say,
I believe in you. And the way Aubrey coaches and
the way he pours into those guys, I think they
feel it, I'd like to think. I think I've heard
him Manuel talk about that and and he challenges guys too,
you know. I think because he loves them, they enable
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him to be able to coach him hard and they
know where that comes from. And it's not by a
mistake that guys usually play their best ball under his
guidance and leaders sit alrighty, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Matthew talked about how the ball felt the coming out
of your hand on that throw the touchdowns to Pooka
on Sunday, Like can you kind of elaborate on what
that means, like especially on those deep balls, like how
can you know you feel like it's going where you're
trying to put it?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (08:26):
I mean certain times you cut it loose and you
feel like you put it, you know, in a tire
swing right where you wanted to.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
And other times you maybe feel.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
A little less certain maybe about where that one, you know,
as far as timing up with the receiver and where
it might end up.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
So I'm looking for all of them to feel really good,
you know, hopefully they do.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Sometimes they don't, and guys make great plays on it
and whatever, but always feels nice when guys up front
do a hell of a job. Give me time and
step into a throw and it goes right where I
wanted to. And obviously, Pope do a hell job of
a hell of a job of completing that one.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
How accurate is that feel?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
When it feels good, is it always good?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I mean majority of the time.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yeah, Like the result may not always be you know
exactly what you're hunting up, but sometimes you know, you
put the ball up on the defense, as I say,
and they do a nice job too, But it's always
good when you can get more more, uh more of
those than than not feeling feeling good.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
In terms of developing, you know, the ball comes out
of your hand a little bit different the guys like
Aaron Rodger. There are certain quarterbacks that seem to just
have very tight spin, great touch. Is that something that
you always have had since you were a kid or
did you have to go through development to get to
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that point? What's kind of led you?
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I think I developed it. You know, obviously had.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Natural ability as a kid, and I was always trying
different arm angles and stuff and playing baseball and shortstop
and throwing it around and turning double plays and throwing
it down by my knee and all those kinds.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Of of things that I think aided in that.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
But I think if you look back at how I
played the game when I first got into the league,
probably a whole lot more fastballs.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Than there were change ups and and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Layer balls, you know, it was I might wait till
the next window and just hammer it through then rather.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Than now, I might layer that one, or I might wait.
You know. I feel like I've developed a few more
pitches probably throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
How did your earlier coaches feel about those arm angles?
Speaker 8 (10:27):
Like most of the coaches I've been around have been
really you know, receptive to just knowing that I'm playing
the game with feel. It's not something that I predetermined
I'll catch a snap and.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Go, why don't we throw this one? You know, sidearm.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
You know, sometimes it's a you know, block division or
or I'm trying to get around a guy or whatever
it is, or my feet are off, or I'm having
a move in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Other people outside of I feel like the.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Buildings that I've been in haven't always been in love
with it, and that's okay. I feel like it's now
probably more accepted than it was back then for guys
to change our angles in Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
He's got a lot to do with that.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Probably people rightfully so have a lot of respect for
how he throws the ball. And he's had a ton
of success as a player and as a team, and that,
you know, that helps.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
You've talked a lot about the offensive line and how
good of a job they've done keeping you clean.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
How much of an impact do you feel like Colvid
Shelton has had on them being able to play as
a cohesive union.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, I mean he's another coach out on the field.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
He's outstanding in his ability to communicate, you know, make
adjustments on the fly, and then he's playing at a
high level too.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
So when you come you combine those things.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
I feel like on the offensive line, when you can
go inside out with great communication and everybody's on the
same page, that's when you have your best chance.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
To go out there and play well. You know. I
think those guys are.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
A you know, have a great understanding of what we're
trying to accomplish on every single play. B have a
great grasp of some of the looks that we expect
to get. And then if we get something, we don't expect,
because we get that, probably more so than than some
other places I've been. You know, how do we adjust
on the fly and make it right, you know, and
and then just go out there and physically play great
wish I've been doing Matthew.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Seven catches in the red zone, all suffering touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Uh, he's doing a great job of getting open down there,
and Uh, I'm putting in some some spots where he
can go make his plays. And that's awesome. I think
our coaching staff does a great job of, you know,
finding ways to you know, let his skill set come
the light down there. And and I mean he's been
doing it for a long time in the league, especially
down in the red zone. He's got one hundred and
something touchdowns and and it's really impressive to see what
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he can do in a small area, both.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
At the at the line of scrimage and at the CATCRN.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Just Carrious growing up, did you have like any ideas
what you thought it would.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Feel like to be thirty seven years old or some
around thirty seven years old?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I don't think I ever thought that far ahead. No,
I surely probably didn't think I was gonna.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Be playing NFL football still at thirty seven, and my
when I was a kid, there weren't too many guys
that were still doing that. It happened a little bit
more now, I think, with you know, just the way
the way that guys take care of themselves, the way
the rules are set up, all that is a little
bit more conducive to playing for a little bit longer.
But I'm sure happy to be doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
To touch on what Lindsay said, the connection with Davante,
and if you take a look big picture at the season,
you know, you guys didn't have any time together during
training camp. What do you make of looking, you know,
a big picture at the team, the success, and where you.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Guys are at now?
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean I'm excited for it. Obviously, like you said,
I missed a ton of time in training camp. I
thought Jimmy did a hell of a job keeping our
guys sharp and getting us ready to go. And I'm
really appreciative of him for that. And you know, our
group did a great job and got ready to go.
And then obviously I was able to come back in
kind of late in the game there and and feel
good enough to go play, and then I've just been
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trying to, you know, continue to try and play better,
develop and and you know, just whatever the coach is
asking me to do, I'm trying to go out there.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And do it.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
How different is facing that forty nine Ers defense without
Fred Warner in the middle of it.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean to be honest with you, I'm not
sure that I've faced him when he hasn't played yet,
you know, So, I mean I know what it's like
facing him, I can.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Tell you that.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
And Uh, he's as good a linebacker as there is
in the league. His ability to cover up some of
the stuff that they ask him to do, you know,
in some of their middlefield open coverages, uh, you know,
is second to.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
None in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
I think with both his ability to move, his understanding
of what offenses are trying to do to attack him,
all of that is at a at a.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You know, an elite level.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
And then you know, the communication, the physicality, the you know,
finishing off on plays, all those kind of things is
as good as it gets. So playing against any defense
with with Fred on it is, uh, is a huge challenge.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Development.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
It's exactly what you just said.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
I think he's continuing to develop, and you got to
give him a lot of credit. He's put a lot
of work in. You know, he's a guy that has
a natural skill set. He's a you know, really talented
play He's done a nice job the last couple of
weeks of you know, hey, here's your role this week,
and can you go out there and master that and
make the plays when you get the chances and go
out there, compete, have fun, do all the things that
we want you to do. And he's done a great
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job of that. And I think he has three other
guys in that room and a coach that he can
really lean on, you know, to kind of show him
how it's done. And and he's absorbed that information and
that feedback and done a great job of translating that
onto the grass.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
The twenty nine yard completion to DeVante, that no look
you had on that big route that he ran, just
I imagine there's more than just like basic surface level
of communication that goes into the timing of that in
terms of just the ball coming out of your hand,
the moment he's breaking on his route, just just you know,
what's that collaboration or that process been like and being
able to you know, really get that connection to the
(15:47):
point where you guys are making place.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Yeah, I mean it's all it's all just reps and communication.
You know, the more reps we get, the better it's
gonna be.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
And then we're always communicating, talking to each other, you know,
giving each other feedback on you know, what feels right
and all that. And he did a great job of
just getting to the spot in the coverage that they
needed to get to in the timing and the rhythm
of the play and was able to put in a
good spot for Okay, thank you, nikshitch.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Having grown up not far you know from where the
forty nine ers are playing, what was kind of your
experience growing up? I mean, were you a forty nine
Ers fan? And what does it mean to go back
to the Bay Area?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Similar to how I feel about him now, never really
liked him.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
I mean it's you know, and then naturally going to
the Packers that was kind of like our rival other
than I mean, you could say to Bears, but we
didn't really look at that like like too much of
of a rivalry game. So but yeah, I mean all
jokes aside, though, I mean, it was it was a
team that since I've been in the league, they've been
in our way, you know, with the Packers, they beat
us a few times in some some pretty meaningful games,
so it always brings out a little bit more aside
(16:57):
you and then going going back home, obviously being in
the front of home crowd. It's always been fun to
play those games in front of my my family and
and you know, like I said, my home crowd, some
people from high school going out there and everything. So yeah,
it's it's a it's a meaningful So you got.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Hold at all when you hear your Gonzala or something
all time touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's like, nah, it feels good. Man. That never gets old.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
Obviously I'm not somebody that plays for for that or
for the praise or you know, the acknowledgments are certainly
not you know, for anybody's approval, but it's it's something
that means a lot to be mentioned with great players
that you know, you look at at some of the
lists that you know, my name has been mentioned with.
It's all hall of famers that are attached to it.
So it means a lot. But you know, just like
(17:41):
I tell everybody that's been reaching out recently about you know,
touchdowns or you know, team success. We say we're gonna
we're gonna keep climbing and look up when you know,
when we get to the top, so or when it's over,
you know. So, uh, that's kind of my mentality.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I'm honestly Matthews, like do passes here reaction.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
In real time or.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Well in real time, I look for the football to
make sure I can make a play on it, and
then after the fact.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I mean, I'm always wild by.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
It's something that I'm starting to become accustomed to see
a little bit more with him, just because I mean
he uses that like it's not like a specialty weapon.
That's like one of his go tos at this point,
and that says a lot about him to be able
to use that. That's something that he does as consistently
as he does, so I love to see it. He's
usually manipulating something to make a bigger window for us
to run through, so I love to see it.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
It might not even to young here, but when he
throws those like what are you looking at?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
When he without.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
I mean the same thing as if he was looking
at me. At me, you know, it's the same thing.
Just finding the quarterback and he's just staying on the move,
staying ready.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Where he's No.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
You can obviously see that, but once you look back,
you find in the target and you know, nine times
out of ten, the balls already gone before before I
look at him. Anyway, that's you know tipic how we
work on it to for the time and the other play.
So a lot of times, I you know, sometimes I
may not know, you know, like that one, I didn't
know that it was no look until you know, they
were talking about it and I saw the replay up
there after. So yeah, I mean the ball came out
(19:12):
so perfectly on time that you know, I turned and
it was right there ready to get caught.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
Wait for you get seven touches in the red zone
and they're all touchdown.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
What's working alone for you?
Speaker 9 (19:25):
And I mean we just we've been finding a way
to you know, marry up the plays that we run
out of certain personnels and find some one on ones
playing a number game basically if they want to go
one on one and we like that matchup, and then
you know, if they want to make the you know,
travel somebody out there and play a bracket or a
double team or vice however they want to do it
then you know, obviously we got numbers there too.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You know, they either run it or run another play.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
To play, like that big route where Matthew releases the
ball so early in your route and you were able
to connect on it. Like, what does that tell you
about where you guys saw in terms of still things
a connection you've talked about these pastures.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
You know, it don't always work every you know, whether
he's looking or he's not looking, it doesn't always work.
But once you start getting no look passes from Matthew,
that means.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
He trusts you.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know, he's got a good understanding of where you're
gonna be and knowing that you're gonna be in a
spot you're supposed to do at the time he's supposed
to do. So that's something that we've been working on
and obviously it's starting to, you know, pay off a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You've had the good fortune of playing with two of
the maybe best pure passers.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
In the NFL in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
What's it like? What's different about those guys in terms
of the way they release the ball From a receiver's perspective.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
I mean, nobody throws it the same so I mean
it's it's gonna be different for everybody, but I mean
they both utilize the no look. I think Matthew probably
has a little bit higher volume up no look passes
than what Aaron would do. But Aaron's just got the
ability to spit the ball out, you know, with not much.
You know, he'll see something last minute and just let
it fire. You know, He's got that type of quick release,
a lot of torque, a lot of corp to you know,
(21:00):
get the ball where he wants to at the last minute.
So that's something that he and I worked on a
lot of times where I may have a route that
was fifteen yards on paper, and one route versus a
certain look, I may make it at twelve or eleven yards,
and then another one if he's super far off or whatever,
I may have to push it to sixteen, you know,
just based off of that. And he had the ability
to kind of sit there and wait on it and
read my body language and you know, fire a good ball.
(21:21):
And Matthews a little bit more regimented of how he
does things as far as you know the details of
the you know, knowing exactly where to be. But with
that he's gonna put the ball where it needs to be,
you know, nine times out of ten there as well.
So they both got their superpowers and they use them differently,
but you know, it's never one of the things where
one one is better than the other.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Is apples and orange.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Is truly you've seen thirty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Thirty eight.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
No, he's I mean, you don't see any of that
until maybe take off trying to run or something like that.
But for the most part, I mean, he looks like
he can go out there and sling it with the
young guns toll.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's mess ups.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
How different from what you've seen on TAM Is this
San Francisco defense without Fred Warner.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
In the mix this week?
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I mean, anytime you take Fred off the off the field,
it's gonna be you know, different. For sure, I wouldn't
say that it's I mean, that's still the defense that
they are. They it's the way that their coach. It's
just the way that Fred has led them to be
over there. So you know, no matter who's in there,
we expecting them to be able to play the same
type of you know, same brand of football. Maybe not
exactly like Fred would play, but you know, guys, are
(22:29):
still gonna be flying around.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Back to what Gary was asking about, Aaron Matthew, What,
in your eyes is the key to them sustaining the
way they've played for as long as they have the
ones that are at that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Level, Just that, that cerebral approach to the game.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
You know, It's it's one thing to have an arm
and be able to throw, but you don't get into
that's a prerequisite to play quarterback in this league. You
gotta be able to throw the football, you know decently.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
They critique everybody and act like certain guys can't throw
it well, but they can all throw the ball. It's
just about how well you can, you know, get on
the same page with guys, how much you're willing to
work through whatever. You know, what he and I have
just because of the bumps we've had.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
With injuries and stuff like that. Early.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
So anytime you got a guy that cerebral about the
game and understands the small you know, a little different nuances,
not letting certain things slide that are you know important
as to why you know even a twelve yard curl
works out, you know, just understanding you know, Tay, I
need you to be on the you know, outside edge
of the numbers, inside the edge of the numbers, or
breaking at six steps versus you know eight. You know,
(23:28):
those type of things are real important to him and
how he sees the game. And you know, that's that's
a big reason why I kind of got to be
the cerebral player I am is because of playing with
guys like Aaron Rodgers. And he's a lot of the
same as far as the details. Maybe not exactly what yardagees,
but honestly, that's something you gotta work to where you
can start playing, you know, with with your depths on
routes and you know, different techniques and stuff like that.
(23:50):
But yeah, he's a he's a guy that obviously knows
a lot about the game and it has a lot
of experience and play with some great receivers too. So
being able to take different things from different guys and
implement it into the way we do it here is
that's that's why we're able to make it look like
we do.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I mean, that's a.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
That's an offices or a team's best friend. Really, I mean,
you gotta you obviously, and it's the kicking unit. It's
not the it's not a kicker it's it's there's so
many pieces to it. The protection snap, the holder, you know,
the confidence of you know, putting that confidence.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Into your kicker.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
So you know, our kicking game and our field goal
unit hasn't been where we wanted to be this year obviously,
but it's so many pieces, more than just one person.
So we gotta we gotta make sure we find a
way to rally on that, but optimistic that we'll figure
it out for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Cool
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