Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay discusses safety Quentin Lake's recovery following elbow surgery as well as players being placed on injured reserve. Quarterback Matthew Stafford and wide receiver Davante Adams highlight how the Rams' roster depth will help the team defeat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Obviously we put a couple guys on ir Higbe got
his ankle rolled up on bad and so it's gonna
be you know, a little bit of time, but we
do expect him to be able to make a return.
Rob is you know, really you talk about Higbee, Rob
and Quintin Lake, all guys that are going on I
are big losses for us. Quentin Lake had elbow surgery yesterday,
ended up dislocating his elbow. Everything went really well. There
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still is some optimism that he could return this year.
Same thing with Higbee. And then you know, Rob Hanstein,
he's as tough as it gets. He's been battling, been
pushing through his ankle, his knee, you know, he had
been kind of sore and there had been some things
going on. And so being able to talk to him,
I think the best case, in the best approach, he's
gonna be able to give him some time.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
See if we can end up, you know, turning the
corner and allowing him.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To be able to feel like he's capable of and
we'll we'll have hope and optimism that all those guys
will return at some point. And the soonest that they'd
be able to return with you know, Rob and Higbee
would be you know, with three games remaining in the
season and will kind of monitor what what q Lake
status will be. As far as today's concerned. Xavier Smith
got the concussion the other day. He's doing better, but
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he's not quite where we want him to be yet,
So he'll be a d NP.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Everybody else should be good.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
With Rob just kind of when did that happen in
the game.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You know, it's been something that he's been dealing with.
At him, I mean, he is, like I said, he's
as tough as it gets. And you know, you look
at when he missed some time earlier in the season.
He comes back, I thought he played, you know, really well,
and then you could see it just progressively started irritating
him more and more and really limited his ability to
be able to function the way that he's capable of playing.
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And when you're you know, doing the things that that
are asked of that position, particularly up front, sometimes it's
it's one of those deals that you have to do
right by the players. You know, when you talk about
a guy like him, he'll continue to push battle fall
on the sword and you know, I think our job
is to be able to sometimes protect these really tough,
you know guys, you know, from themselves, and then to
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be able to you know, take that information that I'm
getting from Reggie. From the totality of it all, he
ended up getting kind of like a bersidis where his
knees swollen to and so you know, there's nobody that
would push through more than him, and sometimes you have
to be able to protect these guys from themselves. But
he's such a phenomenal leader for us. He'll do such
a great job in the meantime of uplifting and elevating
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the group just like he's done. And then we'll look
forward to being able to get him back when he's
feeling better and capable of playing the way that we're
customs seeing Rop play.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Rob And when you are all such a big all
the way guys for you guys like, how do you
kind of deal with that?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, no doubt well, Number one, those guys are going
to be here. They're going to continue to you know,
uplift and elevate those guys. There is a lot of
guys that we have confidence in. You don't replace players
like that, You don't expect others to be able to
do that. You expect the guys that are getting opportunities
to step up to be the best versions of themselves.
And you know, this is something that you deal with
and it's an unfortunate It's one of my least favorite
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parts of this business. You watch the amount of work,
time and effort that goes into preparing and then you
know how precious these opportunities are to be able to
get these games and and to be able to go
compete with, you know, teammates that they love and care about,
and so they'll still be here, They'll still be able
to affect and influence things in a positive way. And
even though I know all three of those guys would
be chomping at the bit to be out there, they're
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they're everything that's right about this place, and they'll contribute
in their own ways, and you know you're not going
to run away from Those are tough losses. But you
look around this league and you know we've had to
deal with things like this before, and there is a
lot of confidence from the guys that have been asked
to do different things that'll be elevated, you know, to
to be able to go deliver and play to the
best of their ability, not try to be Que, not
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try to be Rob, not try to be Higgs, but
be the best versions of themselves, and and that's what
we'll do.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Rob's case, I imagine that player is probably warn mcclinde.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It is.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
How much of a luxury is it having somebody like
that that you can put it, who's played as well
as he has.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's a luxury, you know, And I think it's a
tremendous credit. You know, I've mentioned it before Stu and
talked about it. You know, I think Rob's done such
a great job. You know, obviously you got to give
Ryan Wendell, Zach Kromer, Brian Allen a ton of credit.
But you know, also Warren, of course because of what
he's done, and it's really cool to see him just
continuously work, earn the confidence through his work, not any
sort of words, but Rob's also mentorship and guidance I
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think has been I would I would imagine that Warren
would tell you it's very helpful.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But it is a luxury.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I think Warren's played really well in the times
that Rob hasn't been able to go in previous games
this year, regular seasons or you know, it's it's hard
to say, Nate, I know this, the surgery went well.
I think they were really encouraged with some of the specifics,
and I'd be a little bit out of my element,
you know, getting too granular there. But talking with doctor
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Ela Tross, talking with Reggie, even talking with Q today,
I don't think it's out of the question if you
earn an opportunity to be able to play after the
regular season, that he could, you know, potentially play. So
I don't know about the regular season, but if we're
fortunate enough to you know, continue to, you know, do
things that give you a chance to play more than
the seventeen that you're guaranteed there's a possibility he'd be back.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
For that much.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Does the help for you, especially with Rob, I'm he's
gonna be With Higby being out and having so much
talent and diverse talent in that tiny.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
End rule, it's a it's a big deal, Nick, you know.
And Higby's been such a glue guy for us. You know,
his presence, his charisma, is production, his overall just energy
is something that is really hard to replicate or ever replace.
But it is a luxury, you know, And I think.
You know, Scooter Off's done a great job of really
developing that room. Higgs has had a tremendous influence on
those guys. You know, it's really cool to see how
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far and how much growth you've seen from Colby, from
Davis and you know, and you continue to see from
Terrence Ferguson. So do feel really fortunate to have good
depth in that room With Quinton.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
He's been such a like, can't get him off the
field guy for you guys the last two years, how
tough were just the conversations with him over the last
couple of days as he kind of came around to
this reality.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, I'll tell you you know, and you guys have
talked to him, he's about as impressive of a human
with his mental toughness, ability to acknowledge that he's disappointed.
But you know the thing that Ques one of those
guys that when you sit there and you talk to him,
you're like, man, I wish I was like that, because
his mindset is, man, I'm just grateful it's not anything
in my lower aft and I can still walk around,
and you know, because it's his left elbow and he.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Can throw the ball around. I mean it's unbelievable, right,
you know, but that's who he is.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Even when I spoke with him after the game, he
was going to get the MRI scans and they had
a premonition of what it could be, and we thought
that that, you know, you know, for him to come out,
it's probably something that's going to be significant. So we
had a feeling and then when things were confirmed after
I spoke with you guys on Monday. But his mindset
of mentality's incredible. I think there is part of a
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mental toughness is acknowledging. Yeah, I'm disappointed. It's a bummer,
all right. So I don't want to stay in this space.
How do I move forward? How do I surround myself
with people that uplift me? How do I make sure
I'm not in this alone? And I think there is
something to be said for those temporary milestones as you
start to gain progress, you know, getting closer towards the return.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And he's he's a special guy.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
His perspective is is something you know, and he thinks
sometimes when I think about complaining about stuff, he's a
good reminder of how to handle things.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Josh Wallas the guy that you look at to fill
that spot or run.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I thought he did a good you know, I
think it's something that you know, will continue to evaluate
throughout the course of the week. What I will say
about Josh Natas he did a great job the other day,
came in, played almost thirty snaps and the really that's
been consistent with Josh Wallace. You know, he's a guy
that can play so many different roles. He's so smart,
he's got great instincts, great overall awareness, great physical and
mental toughness, and I thought against an excellent outfit, he
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came in and really didn't miss a beat. And his
ability to communicate, to understand big picture wise, you know,
not exclusive to one spot, but the concept of everything
that we're trying to get done, specifically on the back end,
is a tremendous credit. Roger's a guy that we've been
working and you know there's a possibility of that, and
so Aubrey does such a great job of being able
to get those guys ready along with Coach Beek, and
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you know, this week will be really important, you know
for those two guys in particular, can you.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Walk me through it was like getting him ready?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It was forty eight hours for the person every book.
We've talked about this a lot now, haven't we. You know,
you write another article about this. So here's what I
would say.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know, I'm always a little probably too long winded.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Incredible testament to him, to Liam, to Zach with the
amount of information that he could digest in a short
amount of time.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I think there's also a credit to his teammates.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You think about even something last week when somebody called me,
you know that I think as a local writer for
the books that artists had me talk to and I
can remember, you know, they brought up that Brian Allen
is telling him what the clock mechanism is in terms
of the cadence, and you could see that on the
TV copy. But he's a fun guy to be around, obviously,
I think when you look at it, you know, with
the two quarterbacks, we feel so fortunate to have Matthew Obviously,
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I know Tampa feels that way about Baker. But you
got two guys that elevate the people that they're around,
and still a belief, which I think is some of
the most powerful things that you can offer as a
quarterback with the way that you lead in the way
that you compete, that's authentic to you. And I think
Baker's always done that throughout his career. Matthew's always done that.
But what he did was he was himself. And I
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think when you look back on it, I don't know
that many people are surprised, but it's an incredible it's
a it's an impressive feat. That's a real testament to
his you know, competitiveness, but also his mental capacity to
be able to handle and absorb so much information in
a short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
The amount of I mean, that's the amount of learning
he had to do in those in that time.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Hard for any player.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
That's what's even harder about the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
There's just so many I mean, I think, you know,
you tried to make it, you know, as similar like
as what he's done, you know you, but he did
a great job. I mean, what's what's asked of that
position in general? You better be able to operate above
the neck and he certainly did that and in a
very impressive fashion.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Matthew, the news that Tyler and Rob are going on
in your reserve, like, what are the kind of up
steps this week in terms of moving forward as an offense?
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean, it's obviously unfortunate for those guys. There
are such great players, good guys in our locker room leaders.
You know, that's tough. But it's next man up. It's
the NFL. That's what we have to do. We understand
that's part of the game. It's part of the game
that we all dislike. But uh, you know, we're gonna
have to move forward with the guys that we do
have available. You know, from the tight end standpoint, a
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lot of those guys have gotten a ton of experience already,
so feel good there. And then Warren's played you know,
a decent amount of snaps this year as well too,
So both those guys are obviously big time leaders and
catalysts on our team and our offense. But you know,
we'll just move on with with the guys that we
have forward, uh, or move forward with the guys that
we have and then uh, you know, hopefully those guys
can can you know, heal up and be ready to
go at some point?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
What kind of opportunity is this? What kind of opportunity
is this for Terrans?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yeah, I mean I think, uh, you know, he's he's
been rotating in and out of the game, you know,
at the same you know regularity. You know, they're trying
to keep those guys fresh as best they can. We
have four of them obviously now three that you know,
still feel really comfortable with all those guys being game,
So you know, I think it'll be a you know,
a good opportunity really for all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
With the Sunday being there now at the celebration game.
Just when you think about his legacy and impact on
this franchise and especially you guys time together as teammates,
just what what sticks out to you the most?
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Oh Man.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Obviously on the football field, he was just as dominant
as you could be, you know, whether that was practice
or or in games. He forced the hand of the
offense more than any player probably I've ever played against
or really with, which was you know, incredible to be around,
great teammate, great energy, to be around, a guy that
brought it every single day and then and off the field.
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Just a class human being that represents all that's right
with the NFL. And I was very lucky to spend
time with him on the same field and and and
do some special stuff, uh, you know, watching him do
his things. So he's an all time great.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Uh what have you seen from Tampa's defense be challenging?
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a Todd Bowles defense.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
I think they're really well coached. I do a really
nice job. He's been doing it for a long time.
He understands what he wants to do, how he wants
to attack offenses. I think their front is big and physical.
A couple guys on the edge that are rushing the
passer at a high clip. You know, their backer backer
has been doing it for a while, Lavante has and uh,
you know, just really smart back in when you look
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at it, they do a lot of different stuff. They
ask them to do a lot of different stuff, and
and uh, you know, I think, uh, they do a
really nice job in the back end, mixing up looks
on you, making it difficult on the quarterback, and and uh,
you know, being aggressive in nature in a game. It's
not necessarily this year, but not getting a rough with
rooking the pastor called what is your mindset about whether
it's worth to complain or ask about the flag?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
And have you seen any success from doing that?
Speaker 7 (12:48):
I mean not really, just because after the fact, I
mean they're not gonna like, oh yeah, you're right and
drop it. You know, sometimes when it's late, I mean,
you have a little conversation, but it's move on to
the next place. Times whether you you know, I understand,
it's probably difficult to see a lot of times do
you get hit in the face, do you not grabbed
a There was one earlier this year, got grabbed in
the face mask and got pulled, you know, to the
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side trying to throw a ball over the middle, and
just made them aware of it. Hey, got me there,
You know what I mean, whatever it is, but it
doesn't mean it's gonna happen to get in the whole
rest of the game. So you don't know, but just
trying to if I see something, just trying to make
those guys aware.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
And a lot of the times they're.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Understanding and and uh you know, they're trying to do
their best out there.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Uh good.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
You had a big moment against the Buccaneers and the
playoffs several years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
When what do you recall about that play that went
the long pass to Cooper?
Speaker 8 (13:40):
Yeah, I mean a lot of it.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
I can kind of put myself right back in there
in the moment, to be honest with you, and see
what I saw in the moment obviously a huge play,
great play by Cooper the play before we get out
of bounds to stop the clock give us a chance
at that play. And then Sean did a great job
of kind of jumping the ball at that point, keeping
the pressure on and not letting them huddle up and
get all organized. And then recognized it as I caught
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the snap kind of and and uh, in a split
sec kind of realized that the best route versus that
coverage is probably the one that never gets thrown. But
coops at a great angle I put into a spot
and he made a great play.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Talked game on Sunday about how you can emphasize the
stakes before the fourth downs during that game, like when
do you choose how do you choose your moments for
when to like deliver a little extra message.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Yeah, I just trust my gut on those things.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You know, fourth downs, you know, pretty easy obvious moment
to uh, you know, push the fellas.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
But they do such a great job.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
They understand all these guys, know, you know, what's at
stake every time we got there, with every single play,
it's all of them matter. We happen to have some
that were you know, fourth downs we'd love to convert
them on third down frankly, but you know, if there's
if there's opportunities where I feel my voice, can you know,
add some input or or help us get to where
we need to go, I'll do it.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Lesson.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
We've learned about a lot of.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I don't know that I've ever really had advice about it,
to be honest with you, I've just got in there
and tried to be myself as much as I possibly can.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
I love to compete. I love to, uh, you know,
be in that huddle.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
It's a it's a special thing and not a lot
of people get to experience. But advice wise, no, as
long as you know what you're doing, you know you
can relay it to those guys in a in a
clean manner, then good things happen.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Fans talk about you being very calm in those moments.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Is that just how you are naturally or is that
you saying I need to be calm.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Because I'm there.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
No, I don't.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
I don't actively think about being calm. I think that's
just who I am.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
You know, played the position for a long time, but
in other sports, probably competed and have a similar similar temperament.
No matter what I'm doing, doesn't mean that just because
I'm not yelling and screaming doesn't mean that I'm not
giving everything I got.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
But that's just how I am.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Spend any time with Baker when he was here and
what you know, what's the impression of just his journey throughouts.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Yeah, I did. Obviously I was around.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
I was rehabing some stuff at the time, but was
really impressed with you know, obviously the physical abilities there,
that's why you get picked where you get picked, but
you know, his ability to come in and play you
know pretty darn well on a short, shortened timeline was
was really awesome. Gave us a spark that season. He's
a great human being. He's played some golf with him
in the off seasons. Really enjoyed being around him. You
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can tell why his teammates love being around him. He's
just a great, great guy and and uh obviously a
heck of a football player. He's been through a lot
and you know, come out the other side playing about
as good as ball as anybody, and and always pulling
for him to have success as I am most of
the guys in the league. Man just want those guys
to go out there and play well, and he's uh,
he's done a nice job.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Like golf. Uh, you know, it wasn't monoemano. We were
just enjoying our time.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
But uh, he's a pretty good player. I'm not gonna
lie he swings at lefty, but uh, he's a good player.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Yeah. I mean, I can't get mad. You get mad
at golf, you got something wrong.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I'm not tu I'm not working hard enough to be good.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
How did you las school like your lover before?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Yea, yeah that was fun. Yeah. I just played bad
it dad and have nothing to do with it. Yeah,
it was. It was completely separate from the injury. So
when you you haven't had many games like that, I
imagine you have. Yeah, not like that. No, Yeah, how
I know you guys talk.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
About it just flushing and moving.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Is that difficult for you and just trying to get
back to that.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
It's always difficult for me. I mean I like to
think I can move on with and and continue to
play football, obviously, but just having a standard that I
do for myself. I you know, I never wanna drop passes.
I never wanna, you know, do anything negative on the field.
So anytime it's especially when it comes to catching the football,
Like that's something I pride myself on, you know, obviously
reaching a thousand catches. That doesn't just happen, So yeah,
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something that I beat myself up on about. But it's
it's much easier situation like this where you can, you know,
like I said, after the game, get backed up by
the rest of the team, the rest of the receivers,
you know, and and that faith and confidence in the
you know, in me is still there, you know, with
from the coaching staff and everybody else, which should be obviously,
but just me being a level player I am and
the experience I have, I always want to go out
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there and light it up. But yeah, it's also one
of the weird games where you just didn't get many opportunities.
So it's hard to you know, I could have did
that and then went and caught another six seven balls
and you know, feel like it's a little bit better
about the day. But when you don't end up with
that because the possessions, shortage or whatever it is, it
just feels a lot worse than what it you know,
maybe actually was. So I know it looked bad, but
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it feels worse for me than than what it looked
like for you for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Does that feel like under the thousand catches is big number?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, when you think back on it, does it see
that's a lot of my average.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Or does it seem like it's a hitty day or
catch one.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I mean, it's a big number for sure, but it
does kind of feel like it was just yesterday where
I just kind of got here, and you know, I
still remember my my five hundreds, which was a touchdown
against the Bears, so and I felt like that was
crazy when it happened. I was like five hundred grabs
in this league is you know, I'm thinking of all
the people that have played and how many people have
even done that at that point. So that was you know,
that meant a lot to me reaching that milestone. So
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to double that and still be playing and playing at
a high level, you know, I'm blessed.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Experience a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
But yeah, already, I.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Guess can't sound to you.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I mean, like I said, just I don't know how
many people have done it on a touchdown specifically, so
to be able to do that and then it get
embraced by the whole team like that, getting acknowledged after
the game where you know, I'm happy we won, but
still pissed off that you know, I didn't you know,
contribute the way that I'm used to being able to do.
You know, it definitely made me feel better. I was
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able to sleep better at night knowing that we you know,
at least caught a two touchdown while playing that bad.
You know that's something to be said about that too, m.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Or yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I mean you, I think, especially in the situation where
you win the game, you know, it's always good. Sometimes
you come back from a loss and you want to
play quickly too. But I think for us, you know,
we we it's not gonna be a whole lot of
tape to watch in between. You know, we can kind
of go off of what we've seen last. They're not
gonna have, you know, some completely different roster where you know,
half the team is different. You know, there's been times
where I played teams and then you know they get
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you know, smacked by injuries or whatever it is. And yeah,
it'll it'll be different obviously being on the road, but
it'll be a little bit more alike any other than
any other situation. I guess that we have divisional games
this year, A second.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Get more.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
So, I mean just honestly, we're on the way back
just I was sitting next to him on in the
sprinter and you know that that's that's just my place
where I come back to center. They don't care if
I scored or if you know. Half the time, they
just want to go and just just go down on
the field before the game. You know, they get excited
seeing people embrace me. You know, my daughters. Now my
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oldest is starting to understand a little bit of what's
going on. So it's just cool to you know, have
my family a part of, you know, the whole thing.
So having my boy is a little bit of a
different feeling now. And you know, I did have my
my oldest at the time when I got to five
hundred so and I took a picture with you know,
with her at that time.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Holding the ball. So I just wanted to do it
with the with my boys done the town.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, man, I mean, having depth in this league is
what it's about. That way, you don't end up with
situations where you're you know, you lose a guy and
now your whole season is is potentially different. So we
got a bunch tight ends, a bunch of receivers and
I think that's what makes his team great. Is obviously
the one deep is is amazing, but you can you know,
pluck me out and put you know, canate in there
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and he can go do his thing and make you pay.
And maybe not on paper you won't look at it
that way, but then when you look back at the
rest of the game, looking at the details, the run blocking,
you know, the run after catch, all of that stuff,
we can we can still find a way to you know,
make up for you know, for a loss of here
here and there. Same with Mpooka went down, go out
to London and getting thirteen personnel and you know, a
star was born. So that's that's as it's a good
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feeling knowing that we can just kind of you know,
plug and play, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
They good good
Okay, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Obviously we put a couple guys on ir Higbe got
his ankle rolled up on bad and so it's gonna
be you know, a little bit of time, but we
do expect him to be able to make a return.
Rob is you know, really you talk about Higbee, Rob
and Quintin Lake, all guys that are going on I
are big losses for us. Quentin Lake had elbow surgery yesterday,
ended up dislocating his elbow. Everything went really well. There
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still is some optimism that he could return this year.
Same thing with Higbee. And then you know, Rob Hanstein,
he's as tough as it gets. He's been battling, been
pushing through his ankle, his knee, you know, he had
been kind of sore and there had been some things
going on. And so being able to talk to him,
I think the best case, in the best approach, he's
gonna be able to give him some time.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
See if we can end up, you know, turning the
corner and allowing him.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To be able to feel like he's capable of and
we'll we'll have hope and optimism that all those guys
will return at some point. And the soonest that they'd
be able to return with you know, Rob and Higbee
would be you know, with three games remaining in the
season and will kind of monitor what what q Lake
status will be. As far as today's concerned. Xavier Smith
got the concussion the other day. He's doing better, but
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he's not quite where we want him to be yet,
So he'll be a d NP.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Everybody else should be good.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
With Rob just kind of when did that happen in
the game.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You know, it's been something that he's been dealing with.
At him, I mean, he is, like I said, he's
as tough as it gets. And you know, you look
at when he missed some time earlier in the season.
He comes back, I thought he played, you know, really well,
and then you could see it just progressively started irritating
him more and more and really limited his ability to
be able to function the way that he's capable of playing.
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And when you're you know, doing the things that that
are asked of that position, particularly up front, sometimes it's
it's one of those deals that you have to do
right by the players. You know, when you talk about
a guy like him, he'll continue to push battle fall
on the sword and you know, I think our job
is to be able to sometimes protect these really tough,
you know guys, you know, from themselves, and then to
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be able to you know, take that information that I'm
getting from Reggie. From the totality of it all, he
ended up getting kind of like a bersidis where his
knees swollen to and so you know, there's nobody that
would push through more than him, and sometimes you have
to be able to protect these guys from themselves. But
he's such a phenomenal leader for us. He'll do such
a great job in the meantime of uplifting and elevating
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the group just like he's done. And then we'll look
forward to being able to get him back when he's
feeling better and capable of playing the way that we're
customs seeing Rop play.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Rob And when you are all such a big all
the way guys for you guys like, how do you
kind of deal with that?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, no doubt well, Number one, those guys are going
to be here. They're going to continue to you know,
uplift and elevate those guys. There is a lot of
guys that we have confidence in. You don't replace players
like that, You don't expect others to be able to
do that. You expect the guys that are getting opportunities
to step up to be the best versions of themselves.
And you know, this is something that you deal with
and it's an unfortunate It's one of my least favorite
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parts of this business. You watch the amount of work,
time and effort that goes into preparing and then you
know how precious these opportunities are to be able to
get these games and and to be able to go
compete with, you know, teammates that they love and care about,
and so they'll still be here, They'll still be able
to affect and influence things in a positive way. And
even though I know all three of those guys would
be chomping at the bit to be out there, they're
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they're everything that's right about this place, and they'll contribute
in their own ways, and you know you're not going
to run away from Those are tough losses. But you
look around this league and you know we've had to
deal with things like this before, and there is a
lot of confidence from the guys that have been asked
to do different things that'll be elevated, you know, to
to be able to go deliver and play to the
best of their ability, not try to be Que, not
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try to be Rob, not try to be Higgs, but
be the best versions of themselves, and and that's what
we'll do.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Rob's case, I imagine that player is probably warn mcclinde.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It is.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
How much of a luxury is it having somebody like
that that you can put it, who's played as well
as he has.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's a luxury, you know, And I think it's a
tremendous credit. You know, I've mentioned it before Stu and
talked about it. You know, I think Rob's done such
a great job. You know, obviously you got to give
Ryan Wendell, Zach Kromer, Brian Allen a ton of credit.
But you know, also Warren, of course because of what
he's done, and it's really cool to see him just
continuously work, earn the confidence through his work, not any
sort of words, but Rob's also mentorship and guidance I
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think has been I would I would imagine that Warren
would tell you it's very helpful.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But it is a luxury.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I think Warren's played really well in the times
that Rob hasn't been able to go in previous games
this year, regular seasons or you know, it's it's hard
to say, Nate, I know this, the surgery went well.
I think they were really encouraged with some of the specifics,
and I'd be a little bit out of my element,
you know, getting too granular there. But talking with doctor
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Ela Tross, talking with Reggie, even talking with Q today,
I don't think it's out of the question if you
earn an opportunity to be able to play after the
regular season, that he could, you know, potentially play. So
I don't know about the regular season, but if we're
fortunate enough to you know, continue to, you know, do
things that give you a chance to play more than
the seventeen that you're guaranteed there's a possibility he'd be back.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
For that much.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Does the help for you, especially with Rob, I'm he's
gonna be With Higby being out and having so much
talent and diverse talent in that tiny.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
End rule, it's a it's a big deal, Nick, you know.
And Higby's been such a glue guy for us. You know,
his presence, his charisma, is production, his overall just energy
is something that is really hard to replicate or ever replace.
But it is a luxury, you know, And I think.
You know, Scooter Off's done a great job of really
developing that room. Higgs has had a tremendous influence on
those guys. You know, it's really cool to see how
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far and how much growth you've seen from Colby, from
Davis and you know, and you continue to see from
Terrence Ferguson. So do feel really fortunate to have good
depth in that room With Quinton.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
He's been such a like, can't get him off the
field guy for you guys the last two years, how
tough were just the conversations with him over the last
couple of days as he kind of came around to
this reality.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, I'll tell you you know, and you guys have
talked to him, he's about as impressive of a human
with his mental toughness, ability to acknowledge that he's disappointed.
But you know the thing that Ques one of those
guys that when you sit there and you talk to him,
you're like, man, I wish I was like that, because
his mindset is, man, I'm just grateful it's not anything
in my lower aft and I can still walk around,
and you know, because it's his left elbow and he.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Can throw the ball around. I mean it's unbelievable, right,
you know, but that's who he is.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Even when I spoke with him after the game, he
was going to get the MRI scans and they had
a premonition of what it could be, and we thought
that that, you know, you know, for him to come out,
it's probably something that's going to be significant. So we
had a feeling and then when things were confirmed after
I spoke with you guys on Monday. But his mindset
of mentality's incredible. I think there is part of a
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mental toughness is acknowledging. Yeah, I'm disappointed. It's a bummer,
all right. So I don't want to stay in this space.
How do I move forward? How do I surround myself
with people that uplift me? How do I make sure
I'm not in this alone? And I think there is
something to be said for those temporary milestones as you
start to gain progress, you know, getting closer towards the return.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And he's he's a special guy.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
His perspective is is something you know, and he thinks
sometimes when I think about complaining about stuff, he's a
good reminder of how to handle things.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Josh Wallas the guy that you look at to fill
that spot or run.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I thought he did a good you know, I
think it's something that you know, will continue to evaluate
throughout the course of the week. What I will say
about Josh Natas he did a great job the other day,
came in, played almost thirty snaps and the really that's
been consistent with Josh Wallace. You know, he's a guy
that can play so many different roles. He's so smart,
he's got great instincts, great overall awareness, great physical and
mental toughness, and I thought against an excellent outfit, he
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came in and really didn't miss a beat. And his
ability to communicate, to understand big picture wise, you know,
not exclusive to one spot, but the concept of everything
that we're trying to get done, specifically on the back end,
is a tremendous credit. Roger's a guy that we've been
working and you know there's a possibility of that, and
so Aubrey does such a great job of being able
to get those guys ready along with Coach Beek, and
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you know, this week will be really important, you know
for those two guys in particular, can you.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Walk me through it was like getting him ready?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It was forty eight hours for the person every book.
We've talked about this a lot now, haven't we. You know,
you write another article about this. So here's what I
would say.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know, I'm always a little probably too long winded.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Incredible testament to him, to Liam, to Zach with the
amount of information that he could digest in a short
amount of time.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I think there's also a credit to his teammates.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You think about even something last week when somebody called me,
you know that I think as a local writer for
the books that artists had me talk to and I
can remember, you know, they brought up that Brian Allen
is telling him what the clock mechanism is in terms
of the cadence, and you could see that on the
TV copy. But he's a fun guy to be around, obviously,
I think when you look at it, you know, with
the two quarterbacks, we feel so fortunate to have Matthew Obviously,
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I know Tampa feels that way about Baker. But you
got two guys that elevate the people that they're around,
and still a belief, which I think is some of
the most powerful things that you can offer as a
quarterback with the way that you lead in the way
that you compete, that's authentic to you. And I think
Baker's always done that throughout his career. Matthew's always done that.
But what he did was he was himself. And I
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think when you look back on it, I don't know
that many people are surprised, but it's an incredible it's
a it's an impressive feat. That's a real testament to
his you know, competitiveness, but also his mental capacity to
be able to handle and absorb so much information in
a short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
The amount of I mean, that's the amount of learning
he had to do in those in that time.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Hard for any player.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
That's what's even harder about the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
There's just so many I mean, I think, you know,
you tried to make it, you know, as similar like
as what he's done, you know you, but he did
a great job. I mean, what's what's asked of that
position in general? You better be able to operate above
the neck and he certainly did that and in a
very impressive fashion.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Matthew, the news that Tyler and Rob are going on
in your reserve, like, what are the kind of up
steps this week in terms of moving forward as an offense?
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean, it's obviously unfortunate for those guys. There
are such great players, good guys in our locker room leaders.
You know, that's tough. But it's next man up. It's
the NFL. That's what we have to do. We understand
that's part of the game. It's part of the game
that we all dislike. But uh, you know, we're gonna
have to move forward with the guys that we do
have available. You know, from the tight end standpoint, a
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lot of those guys have gotten a ton of experience already,
so feel good there. And then Warren's played you know,
a decent amount of snaps this year as well too,
So both those guys are obviously big time leaders and
catalysts on our team and our offense. But you know,
we'll just move on with with the guys that we
have forward, uh, or move forward with the guys that
we have and then uh, you know, hopefully those guys
can can you know, heal up and be ready to
go at some point?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
What kind of opportunity is this? What kind of opportunity
is this for Terrans?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yeah, I mean I think, uh, you know, he's he's
been rotating in and out of the game, you know,
at the same you know regularity. You know, they're trying
to keep those guys fresh as best they can. We
have four of them obviously now three that you know,
still feel really comfortable with all those guys being game,
So you know, I think it'll be a you know,
a good opportunity really for all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
With the Sunday being there now at the celebration game.
Just when you think about his legacy and impact on
this franchise and especially you guys time together as teammates,
just what what sticks out to you the most?
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Oh Man.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Obviously on the football field, he was just as dominant
as you could be, you know, whether that was practice
or or in games. He forced the hand of the
offense more than any player probably I've ever played against
or really with, which was you know, incredible to be around,
great teammate, great energy, to be around, a guy that
brought it every single day and then and off the field.
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Just a class human being that represents all that's right
with the NFL. And I was very lucky to spend
time with him on the same field and and and
do some special stuff, uh, you know, watching him do
his things. So he's an all time great.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Uh what have you seen from Tampa's defense be challenging?
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a Todd Bowles defense.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
I think they're really well coached. I do a really
nice job. He's been doing it for a long time.
He understands what he wants to do, how he wants
to attack offenses. I think their front is big and physical.
A couple guys on the edge that are rushing the
passer at a high clip. You know, their backer backer
has been doing it for a while, Lavante has and uh,
you know, just really smart back in when you look
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at it, they do a lot of different stuff. They
ask them to do a lot of different stuff, and
and uh, you know, I think, uh, they do a
really nice job in the back end, mixing up looks
on you, making it difficult on the quarterback, and and uh,
you know, being aggressive in nature in a game. It's
not necessarily this year, but not getting a rough with
rooking the pastor called what is your mindset about whether
it's worth to complain or ask about the flag?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
And have you seen any success from doing that?
Speaker 7 (12:48):
I mean not really, just because after the fact, I
mean they're not gonna like, oh yeah, you're right and
drop it. You know, sometimes when it's late, I mean,
you have a little conversation, but it's move on to
the next place. Times whether you you know, I understand,
it's probably difficult to see a lot of times do
you get hit in the face, do you not grabbed
a There was one earlier this year, got grabbed in
the face mask and got pulled, you know, to the
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side trying to throw a ball over the middle, and
just made them aware of it. Hey, got me there,
You know what I mean, whatever it is, but it
doesn't mean it's gonna happen to get in the whole
rest of the game. So you don't know, but just
trying to if I see something, just trying to make
those guys aware.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
And a lot of the times they're.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Understanding and and uh you know, they're trying to do
their best out there.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Uh good.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
You had a big moment against the Buccaneers and the
playoffs several years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
When what do you recall about that play that went
the long pass to Cooper?
Speaker 8 (13:40):
Yeah, I mean a lot of it.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
I can kind of put myself right back in there
in the moment, to be honest with you, and see
what I saw in the moment obviously a huge play,
great play by Cooper the play before we get out
of bounds to stop the clock give us a chance
at that play. And then Sean did a great job
of kind of jumping the ball at that point, keeping
the pressure on and not letting them huddle up and
get all organized. And then recognized it as I caught
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the snap kind of and and uh, in a split
sec kind of realized that the best route versus that
coverage is probably the one that never gets thrown. But
coops at a great angle I put into a spot
and he made a great play.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Talked game on Sunday about how you can emphasize the
stakes before the fourth downs during that game, like when
do you choose how do you choose your moments for
when to like deliver a little extra message.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Yeah, I just trust my gut on those things.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You know, fourth downs, you know, pretty easy obvious moment
to uh, you know, push the fellas.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
But they do such a great job.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
They understand all these guys, know, you know, what's at
stake every time we got there, with every single play,
it's all of them matter. We happen to have some
that were you know, fourth downs we'd love to convert
them on third down frankly, but you know, if there's
if there's opportunities where I feel my voice, can you know,
add some input or or help us get to where
we need to go, I'll do it.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Lesson.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
We've learned about a lot of.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I don't know that I've ever really had advice about it,
to be honest with you, I've just got in there
and tried to be myself as much as I possibly can.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
I love to compete. I love to, uh, you know,
be in that huddle.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
It's a it's a special thing and not a lot
of people get to experience. But advice wise, no, as
long as you know what you're doing, you know you
can relay it to those guys in a in a
clean manner, then good things happen.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Fans talk about you being very calm in those moments.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Is that just how you are naturally or is that
you saying I need to be calm.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Because I'm there.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
No, I don't.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
I don't actively think about being calm. I think that's
just who I am.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
You know, played the position for a long time, but
in other sports, probably competed and have a similar similar temperament.
No matter what I'm doing, doesn't mean that just because
I'm not yelling and screaming doesn't mean that I'm not
giving everything I got.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
But that's just how I am.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Spend any time with Baker when he was here and
what you know, what's the impression of just his journey throughouts.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Yeah, I did. Obviously I was around.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
I was rehabing some stuff at the time, but was
really impressed with you know, obviously the physical abilities there,
that's why you get picked where you get picked, but
you know, his ability to come in and play you
know pretty darn well on a short, shortened timeline was
was really awesome. Gave us a spark that season. He's
a great human being. He's played some golf with him
in the off seasons. Really enjoyed being around him. You
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can tell why his teammates love being around him. He's
just a great, great guy and and uh obviously a
heck of a football player. He's been through a lot
and you know, come out the other side playing about
as good as ball as anybody, and and always pulling
for him to have success as I am most of
the guys in the league. Man just want those guys
to go out there and play well, and he's uh,
he's done a nice job.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Like golf. Uh, you know, it wasn't monoemano. We were
just enjoying our time.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
But uh, he's a pretty good player. I'm not gonna
lie he swings at lefty, but uh, he's a good player.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Yeah. I mean, I can't get mad. You get mad
at golf, you got something wrong.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I'm not tu I'm not working hard enough to be good.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
How did you las school like your lover before?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Yea, yeah that was fun. Yeah. I just played bad
it dad and have nothing to do with it. Yeah,
it was. It was completely separate from the injury. So
when you you haven't had many games like that, I
imagine you have. Yeah, not like that. No, Yeah, how
I know you guys talk.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
About it just flushing and moving.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Is that difficult for you and just trying to get
back to that.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
It's always difficult for me. I mean I like to
think I can move on with and and continue to
play football, obviously, but just having a standard that I
do for myself. I you know, I never wanna drop passes.
I never wanna, you know, do anything negative on the field.
So anytime it's especially when it comes to catching the football,
Like that's something I pride myself on, you know, obviously
reaching a thousand catches. That doesn't just happen, So yeah,
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something that I beat myself up on about. But it's
it's much easier situation like this where you can, you know,
like I said, after the game, get backed up by
the rest of the team, the rest of the receivers,
you know, and and that faith and confidence in the
you know, in me is still there, you know, with
from the coaching staff and everybody else, which should be obviously,
but just me being a level player I am and
the experience I have, I always want to go out
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there and light it up. But yeah, it's also one
of the weird games where you just didn't get many opportunities.
So it's hard to you know, I could have did
that and then went and caught another six seven balls
and you know, feel like it's a little bit better
about the day. But when you don't end up with
that because the possessions, shortage or whatever it is, it
just feels a lot worse than what it you know,
maybe actually was. So I know it looked bad, but
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it feels worse for me than than what it looked
like for you for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Does that feel like under the thousand catches is big number?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, when you think back on it, does it see
that's a lot of my average.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Or does it seem like it's a hitty day or
catch one.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I mean, it's a big number for sure, but it
does kind of feel like it was just yesterday where
I just kind of got here, and you know, I
still remember my my five hundreds, which was a touchdown
against the Bears, so and I felt like that was
crazy when it happened. I was like five hundred grabs
in this league is you know, I'm thinking of all
the people that have played and how many people have
even done that at that point. So that was you know,
that meant a lot to me reaching that milestone. So
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to double that and still be playing and playing at
a high level, you know, I'm blessed.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Experience a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
But yeah, already, I.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Guess can't sound to you.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I mean, like I said, just I don't know how
many people have done it on a touchdown specifically, so
to be able to do that and then it get
embraced by the whole team like that, getting acknowledged after
the game where you know, I'm happy we won, but
still pissed off that you know, I didn't you know,
contribute the way that I'm used to being able to do.
You know, it definitely made me feel better. I was
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able to sleep better at night knowing that we you know,
at least caught a two touchdown while playing that bad.
You know that's something to be said about that too, m.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Or yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I mean you, I think, especially in the situation where
you win the game, you know, it's always good. Sometimes
you come back from a loss and you want to
play quickly too. But I think for us, you know,
we we it's not gonna be a whole lot of
tape to watch in between. You know, we can kind
of go off of what we've seen last. They're not
gonna have, you know, some completely different roster where you know,
half the team is different. You know, there's been times
where I played teams and then you know they get
(20:33):
you know, smacked by injuries or whatever it is. And yeah,
it'll it'll be different obviously being on the road, but
it'll be a little bit more alike any other than
any other situation. I guess that we have divisional games
this year, A second.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Get more.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
So, I mean just honestly, we're on the way back
just I was sitting next to him on in the
sprinter and you know that that's that's just my place
where I come back to center. They don't care if
I scored or if you know. Half the time, they
just want to go and just just go down on
the field before the game. You know, they get excited
seeing people embrace me. You know, my daughters. Now my
(21:16):
oldest is starting to understand a little bit of what's
going on. So it's just cool to you know, have
my family a part of, you know, the whole thing.
So having my boy is a little bit of a
different feeling now. And you know, I did have my
my oldest at the time when I got to five
hundred so and I took a picture with you know,
with her at that time.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Holding the ball. So I just wanted to do it
with the with my boys done the town.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, man, I mean, having depth in this league is
what it's about. That way, you don't end up with
situations where you're you know, you lose a guy and
now your whole season is is potentially different. So we
got a bunch tight ends, a bunch of receivers and
I think that's what makes his team great. Is obviously
the one deep is is amazing, but you can you know,
pluck me out and put you know, canate in there
(22:09):
and he can go do his thing and make you pay.
And maybe not on paper you won't look at it
that way, but then when you look back at the
rest of the game, looking at the details, the run blocking,
you know, the run after catch, all of that stuff,
we can we can still find a way to you know,
make up for you know, for a loss of here
here and there. Same with Mpooka went down, go out
to London and getting thirteen personnel and you know, a
star was born. So that's that's as it's a good
(22:31):
feeling knowing that we can just kind of you know,
plug and play, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
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