December 23, 2025 • 38 mins
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It’s the moment we’ve all been waiting for, Meghan Markle’s lifestyle Netflix series With Love, Meghan is back with a whole new round of guests, sprinkled flowers, terrifying seafood, and questionable art practices that horrified us to no end.
From a jump scare courtesy of John Legend, to the moment one of Meghan Markle’s kitchen appliances personally insulted us and so much more, it’s time for a brutally honest review of this beautiful and confusing series.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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(01:05):
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I'm and today we have a show that we
have been waiting months to bring you because it is
a brutally honest review of With.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Love Megan on Netflix. Pop to Pop two said I
almost did like the little fridge. I thought I was
in season six six and city we are wish I
wish I was there. I love the idea of spending
time together and.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Finding new ways to show that people you care. Look
at that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh my gosh, I could do this every day. Let's
get creative and you learn something new, nice and done.
I don't know what's happening, and I'm so glad you
came to show me how to do this is working.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Today's bout getting out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I have no idea how to start. Everybody should have
one of those at home three you think so, this
is one of the most joyful days.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So comforting, very comforting.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Often what I want to make are things I want
to share. This looks fantastic. There are easy ways to
show up lovingly.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh she has given me a goose pomp.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That is so lovely. That's delicious.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We also did a brutally honest review of season one,
so if you haven't listened to that, we will link
it in our show notes because I think that was
one of my favorite brittley honest reviews. Because I was
a bit delirious because I remember watching all eight episodes
back to back. I felt like the episodes and season
one were a bit longer, like they were more around
the forty minute mark. And I just came into the
(02:41):
office after watching the last episode going I'm ready, I'm
ready to write.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We were shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
When we do a Brially honest review, which are episodes
that we talk about the biggest TV shows and movies
that have been released, and normally this is the part
of the show where I'd say, if you haven't watched
it all, go and watch it because we're going to
go deep on spoilers. However, there are no spoilers with this.
If you haven't watched it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Imagine if they had like a full plot twist.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, that's what I thought when you said this. More,
I hadn't watched last fifteen minutes the last episode. I
was like, imagine if I was like, oh my god,
things go off the rails. They didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
They didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's a very much a home lifestyle, warm friendly.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's like a show you put on in the background
while you do something else.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, to an extent, it wouldn't be my choice
of a background show. But yes, with love Megan Season
one came out a few months ago, and as soon
as it finished, Meghan Markle herself let us know. I
know she's Megan.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Sussex now, but for all time sakes, I'll call her
Megan market Minny Kayling. We'll be like, hey, no one
call her Megan Mirkle. Don't make my mistake.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Mindy Keyling's not watching the season because she's like, I
can't revisit the trauma of sitting in that hothouse and
making a tea party and they being publicly caught out
on the internet for months on it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I was actually thinking about that episode in particular while
watching the season two. Sorry to segue, but like this
season is I feel like way more educational in the
way that she's teaching like her friends to do things.
And it felt like that episode of Mindy Kaaling was
more like here's something you can do with your kids.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, And I was like, then why is Mindy there?
Because Mindy was like, I pay people to do this.
I don't do it myself because I'm super busy and
I run a huge production.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Every other episode, Like it's like these adults learning things
that they could do as adults, and for Mindy.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It was just like, here's something you can do for
your kids. She was like, no, thanks, Which is interesting
because that's what Megan Michael came in and said after
the season one aired, is that they had filmed it
all in one go. Yes, so season two was locked
and loaded, so there's no learnings, no feedback, there was
no time to go back and reshuffle things and redo things.
What they filmed is what they had. So you and
(04:47):
I have watched. I watched all in one night. I
think he watched it across two nights.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I started. I did four episodes last night and four
episodes this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
A healthy way to do it. I was. I can't
even describe this state I was in by the time
I did eight hours in one night after working a
full day in this office of Megan Michael's new show.
But take me through your thought journey of watching it.
What was your experience?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Like, so had half a bottle of wine?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I did do you can't watch that so much and
if you're not drinking, but like, we couldn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So we also have a massive work project coming up,
So I was in that mindset of like working on
that project while.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Also trying to watch and enjoy.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, with love Megan, I have to pause there there
is a comma, so you have to pause. And so
I had half a bottle of wine. In the first
two and a half episodes. I was like, you know what,
I think this might be my favorite show of the year. Really,
I loved it so much in the first episode, correct.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, well it is kind of I was really into it.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I had so much fun, and then like I started
to sober up and I was like, Oh, this is
just this is the.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Exact same thing that we watched. So this is the
exact same thing we watched last season.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But because I knew that they filmed it back to
back and it was like this big multimillion dollar deal
that they had with Netflix, that's the reason she had
to do this.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Show in the first place. I went in being a bit.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
More kinder towards what I was going to experience. So
because I knew it wasn't going to be different from
season one, it was literally going to be the same thing.
So I went in and I feel like my outtake
from this season is much more She's just doing what
she wants to do.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm going to leave her alone.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well that's why I thing a lot of people hate
watched it. Well, actually, as we know, a lot of
people didn't watch it all because it was number three
hundred on Netflix. In saying that though it had over
five million views, it's just that Netflix numbers are so
huge on network television that would be like the biggest
show of the year. So it's not that people didn't
watch it, it's just that it didn't crack the Netflix
like top thirty.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I want to know, like all the shows that cracked
the top thirty that didn't get the multimillion.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Dollar deal going yeah, hey, where's our money.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Well that's the thing too, is like there's been this
big song and dance about Meghan and Harry having this
one hundred million dollar deal with Netflix and the fact
that it expires in September of this year, so it's
expired now and they won't be renewing it. And I
think that's been painted as a bit of our like
Megan and Harry are failures. Netflix doesn't want anything to
do with them. But it's more so that Netflix is
cutting all of those big long term content deals and
(07:15):
doing project by project, which a lot of media companies
are doing at the moment. Because the Obama's also had
their deal ended, and that's not making headlines, but they're
just like, we're not in the business of now giving
people a huge lump sum of cash and just seeing
what they make and green lighting projects. It's like, you
bring us a project we want, We're going to buy it.
So Megan and Harry are still working with Netflix, right, Okay,
I mean, I don't know why I've become their defender,
(07:37):
but I'm a defender of truth that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Before we get into it, I do want to point
out the biggest issue when it comes to filming back
to back. The worst thing, okay that can happen when
you're filming a show back to back is if your
dog dies.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh no, I know, I know, guy the bagele. But
it's good because otherwise then we saw a little bit
of Mom and Maya.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah yeah, ah, oh my god, because I grew up
with Beagles and when I saw a guy there, knowing
that guy's not with us anymore and he's.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Still such a main character.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Is main Harry. That's good. They can't edit him out.
That's his final like role, his final big role.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And then like Christy Teagan sees him and she's like,
who's this and Meghan's like, it's Guy, and Chrisy's like,
I love how he's just chilling and Megan's like, yeah,
he's an old man. And I was like, Christy, you
have no idea, what's about it?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Did you see that? The day that With Love Meghan
season two came out, Meghan Minkle shared on her Instagram story.
So she did this video of her walking into her
beautiful kitchen, like her real life kitchen film there and
little Lilla Bette is there and she runs past in
her pajamas, and she said that Prince Harry had given
her this gift and it's a huge, huge, blown up
black and white photo of her and Guy. So he
(08:48):
must have known. Prince Harry h as she calls him,
must have known that it would be a really traumatic
day because the show was coming out and Guy's inn
and he passed away, so he gifted her this big
black and white portrait of Guy to be like he's
still here. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was just really really sad. It was like that
was my plot twist and the show. Okay, the first
scene of.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Guy, I was like, it's Guy.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oh I forgot I forgot Yes, So that's because they
fill them back to back, so guys in the whole thing,
and then he passed away. I kind of thought of that,
but that's so true. So We Love Megan Part two
follows a similar kind of flow to the first series,
which is some celebrity guests, some friends of Meghan Markle,
(09:29):
and some people she's never met, come in and out
of this house that they've rented, which people are really
upset about. But of course they've rented a house. What
are they going to do put up a TV set
for weeks in her own home where her children are.
She actually never said I loved how people thought they
were being detectives. They're like, I've discovered it's on her
real house, and it's like, I do think that wasn't
being hidden.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No, I mean I did write an article about it.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, you discovered it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I discovered.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think it was fun to point out, But I
just don't think it was the big kind of like
we've got you moments.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It was more funny in the way that the whole
show is about being a hostess and creating a home
and building your home, and she's like opening these drawers
and going in the pantry as if she lives there
when she definitely does.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
She definitely doesn't. That's so true. But yeah, but I
think I think in the second season we have moved on.
We have moved on.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
At least it's the same house that's the first season.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I ran no exactly. So it's the same house.
So guests come in and out, and she either cooks
with them, prepares things with them, or teaches them little
home craft tricks.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And oh she'll have like a jump card where she
does something before they get there.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, and she's in like a different outfit on a
different day.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And those week moments were.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Raping the honey for the bees, like oh my god,
the scarves, making the scarves from scratch.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That was the point where and we're not going to
go in order here, mostly because I feel like most
of you guys haven't watched this show, so you won't
be like, hey, that happened in episode five.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But also so there's like no spoilers, so each episode
stood at.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
The whole thing is like a fever dream. I went
through so many emotions watching this. At first, I was
like I poured my wine. I'm like, okay, here we go.
She is just so beautiful and comforting to watch on
TV is a big thing. So she came on TV
and I was like, here we go. This is fun.
And then I went through so many emotions. I went
through like sadness for her, Then I went through liking her.
Then I was in completely enraged at one moment, which
we'll get to, and then I went back through acceptance,
(11:13):
and then I went like career plodding for her in
my head of where she should like go next with
her life and what she could do, and that was
such and then the end I felt like like kind
of joy for her. So I went through the gambit
of emotions over like, seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I want to know what made you rage? But first,
but first I want to talk about Christy Tagan. Yes, okay,
So this was the second episode Christy Tagan comes over.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
John Legend is also over.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
He escorts Christy Tagan, which was I guess the one
jump scare that we had because he wasn't meant to
be there.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Even it was like I don't know you were here.
Hate isn't here. That's good, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Little fall up here.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It was a weird moment of going like why are
you here? My husband's long.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And he does in that moment, internationally around best selling
artist John Legend does look like a handbag man, like
he's just been kind of wrought and dropped off and
he doesn't know what to do. He's looking at the cameras,
he doesn't know if he's been filmed or not. He's
just he's very nervous.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
He's very very nervous. So Megan and Christy are like cooking. Yeah,
this is something that I feel like Christy take and
should not have done.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Really. Yeah. The thing about Chrissy Teagan is like, this
is what she was known for for a really long time,
is that she would do those cooking videos at home
with her and her mum, and she was like building
this whole franchise around that, and she would film all
day on Instagram these moments of her life and her
kitchen and cooking tips. And then that whole thing blew
up with her bullying Courtney stodd In and step away
(12:58):
from that brand that she had built with Chris Jenna
and step away from what she was doing. And she
doesn't post like I mean she's got four kids now,
she had like only lot or two.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Kids and four dogs.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, and tod a busy lady. But I think also
like that whole relatable I'm in my kitchen thing kind
of died when a scandal happened.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, that's good to know because I knew that she
had a lot of cookbooks that everyone became obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, she's authored a lot of cookbooks.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But then it came to measuring ingredients and she had
to put three hundred grams of flour into a cup. Yeah,
and she kind of like did like a bit of
a sprinkle, like a pinch of salt. Yeah, and then
she was like, I don't know how much three hundred
grams is And you can even see, like Megan like
immediately her face was like she thought she was joking.
She was like oh, and then she immediately changed a
(13:42):
f and she was like, oh, it's a bit more.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, it's like quite a bit more.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I was like, I thought this woman was like a chef.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, she is a chef. Not making me defend these women,
but cooking and baking are two very different things, and
baking is a very hard skill, a different skill. It's more.
And Meghan says this in one of.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Her episodes, Cooking is art, baking as science.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, and I really feel it in my boat because
it is just not good to lie. That is, yeah, exactly,
And also who amongst us is That's why when I
tried to teach you to cook in the past, I've
said that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is a fair point because I don't do either.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So that's why I can speak the TV with my
wine and my uber it's going.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Can't meanwhile you Meanwhile, you kin't even turn your.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Meanwhile, I don't own a measurement car or flower.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You don't own flower flower because you can put it over. Okay,
we can't. I've been trying to the backstory here is
I've been trying to teach Emily to cook for years.
More than that, I've been trying to teach you how
to grocery shop and then cook the basic items you buy.
And we haven't got there. And it's fine, you're perfect,
you're good at other things.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's really kind, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But when she said that, like I don't know the
measurements and stuff, I felt that in my bones because
I'm a really good cook, but I can't bake. It's
two different sides of the brain, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Two different sides. So maybe I learned baking and then
we can teach each other.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, I thought that's a really empty threat.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
But sure, we haven't about to spend a lot of
time together, so I feel like we have opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
What are you going to be baking on all the
plane trips were about to take?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's like, do you guys have the oven?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Here?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's a plain oven.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We go down to the hotel kitchen to be like,
make some muffins.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Makes some muffins for my colleagues. Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Then she does this thing where like a lot of
it is about cooking and being in the kitchen, and
a lot of the guests she had over for this
season in particular, were like cooks, right, like including like
Tan France.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And like she had like chefs on.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
She had a few chefs on Jay Shetty and his
wife Rody, Like he doesn't cook and they said that,
but she does. So a lot of her guests know
how to work a kitchen. But then she makes them
do like an Arts and Crafts is it the.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Arts and Crafts moments where the guest fads are a
bit like this is just like a few times they
look at the camera like is this really happening? Because
a few J.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Shetty, who interviews billionaires on his podcast, and see.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Making soap and.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
He looks so confused, and he looked scared, and I
would be scared too, because again, soap making, I'm assuming
like bacon measurements and science. And this man was like,
I'm a podcast host. I can give you inspirational pep talk.
I can't make soap and why would I want to
do that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh, it's so funny. And obviously they're there for the
shows and no one can say no. But with Christy
they had to make flower jewelry, flower jewelry, which I
don't think we saw the end product of.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh no, you saw at the end. See this is
you were probably deep in the wine by now you're
pouring another class, you see it. Yeah? Yeah, After Chrissie
leaves because they've got a set for twenty four hours,
I did information I didn't know. I did want to that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Chrissie's looked better than Mekin's when they were doing the flower.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Pressing potentially, Yeah, she had an eye for it. Were
they're doing the flower pressing. The whole Chrissy Teagan episode
was so funny because she comes in, she's so excited.
John Legend looks afraid. Then John Legend leaves, Yeah, and
hours live allegedly an hours pass because these women, they cook,
they bake, they chat, they decorate, then they go and
make flower jewelry and then later on their back in
(17:01):
the kitchen and Chrissy Teagan has all of her kid's
birthdays tattooed on her arm because because she can't remember
a million of them. Well it's Lou, Yeah, Lunar, mile
Stie and Wren. But then she looks at her arm
and her plan has backfired because she can't read some
of the dates and smudgie and which I feel like,
who did that for her? Surely like a proper tattoo
(17:22):
artist did Chrissy Teagan's arm. And also she can't remember
which birthday is assigned to wish child. So one stage,
this is hours after they've arrived. She panics and she
goes John, and John Legend pokes his head out of
some little room where he's obviously just been sitting with
his hands folded the whole time. And I was like,
has that man been here the whole time I've been
(17:44):
doing writing songs. He's sitting in the in the little
like in the pantry, he's.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Working the camera like, Megan, I know you fight all
your stuff, Let me get big.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Let me do it. It's so funny. But also when they're
out making the flower jewelry, Megan Minkle's describing all the
different flowers and then she holds up one flower to
Chrissy Teagan, and Chrissy Teagan mistakes that flower for the
name of one of Megan Michael's children. So let's pick
which flowers I want to do it for our children's
birth months. Okay, Miles is May Your Miles is May sixteenth,
(18:15):
and so Myles and Archie were both Lily of the Valley. Yes,
and okay, Honsworth this one what I was like, you're
my kid name, it's my child. You've never heard of this?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Sorry Worth.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
By the way, if I could have kept a secret
like that, I'm in impressive is that Hansworth has.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
This whole episode felt like a fever dre Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Firstly because I'm like, if anything, you guys should know
each other the most because you've been on deal or
no deal together.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh yeah, I loved them talking about that.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Anytime she talks about her work and am I keep going,
keep going.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, that's what people want to see, and that's what
polaroid photos.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Every time a.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Polaroid photo came up of like behind the scenes of
their wedding or their lives, like, that's when I leaned in.
And that's also why I think people find this show
so disappointing, is that they'd tune in because they think
they're going to get all these details about Meghan Markle,
but it's really just her making soap, literally, and there's little.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You can like. And she always like teasers where she
was like talking about h and I went on our
third date camping, and then you're like, oh, tell me more,
tell me more, and then she's like back to my
capture wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm like, God, I actually loved how she brought that up,
but I wanted more of it because that was their
third date, which if you've read Prince Harry's book, he
talks about all what in there is that on their
third date? Yeah, spare out now.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Ready for spect her too. Maybe I'll talk about that
fourth day.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I hope, so I would just read about their dates. Honestly,
they're so funny.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I need someone who like is on YouTube to take
boat seasons of wit love Meghan and then just put
all the juicy bits together, like anytime she talks about Harry,
all the polaroid photos, like the's collages as she posted
in season one. I just want all of that in
one big, like thirty minute block.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well that's why the documentary about Harry and Meghan is
all the most watched like debut for a documentary on
Netflix of all time, Like it broke all these records
because people just want to see their life, which is
what I would watch the shout of too, but instead
I'm just watching her making soap instead.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We just know how to cure a fitch.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I still don't know. It was not following.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Did you see that crazy microwave she had, the one that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Like pours out Wow?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Really when they were baking together, pouring my wine at
that moment. No, when she was doing like a baking
thing she has like well, it's obviously not her house,
but like she's obviously really into baking because instead of
like melting butter in the normal microwave, she has this
pull out draw and she just puts everything in the drawer,
closes it and then it does something.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, and it's all melted and warm.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh my god, she has a microwave just for melting butter.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't know those things exist. Like that's how poor
we are we are girls, Like, what is this contraction?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
My mind? Blank? I saw her poor drawer out and
it had cooked. But I was like something in my
mind was like, we don't even we can't even like
a draw microwave. And I even tried to google it,
and even my Google.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Wouldn't give me the results because I just knew I.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Could not have. Was like, girl, no, you're waiting for me.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Let me just work your already existing oven.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Fine, we're home to my fifty only came out microwave
for me, Like, where's the butter tray? It's like these.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Little things that they insert in the show. That's the
lens that I feel like that she hasn't been able
to work out of. It's like there are so many
little things that are for the ultra ultra rich that
I'm like fixated on because I've never seen something about
my life and for them it's just like a oh,
and then we have this thing. And I remember this
from season one when she was talking about her outfits
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and she was like she was like and I have
like these lime A pants and a Zara's shirt.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So I like to do a bit of high and low.
And I'm like, which one's the low.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You're like, they're actually both. I think a Zara was
meant to be the low, but the Zara was probably
a couple hundred dollars. You're like, that's a splurge for
me Clara alone, Well, exactly. I feel like in this
season and she's leaning a bit more into being a
little bit more decadent, although every so often she does
say like I buy this fancy product, you could buy
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something similar for cheaper on the internets, no further details.
You guys put the internet right. You can google sheet candles,
And I was like, I can make it, and I can.
Thank you so much, thank you for telling me to google.
But yeah, She's given only a couple of interviews around
this release, and in one interview I did hear her
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say that she has come to the point now where
she's like, no matter what I wear, what I say,
what I do, people are going to find fault with
me and I just can't care about that, which is
so true, so true, no matter what day.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Know if she really believes that, because in my heart,
I would be like, but I also don't want people
to hate me. But there's literally nothing she can do.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
She can't do anything, which is why she's leaning so
hard into this, and which is also why I think
they were confident in filming the back to back, because
she's like, no matter how much hate I got from
season one, like, there's literally no point, Like you can't
apply everything.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, I do think she comes across well in it.
My only kind of thought is like, she's very likable.
She is so likable. I both want to hang out
with her all the time, and I'm scared of her.
I'm scared of her in a way that my life
doesn't match up to hers, because I'm so envious of
when those guests arrive and she's got the gifts and
she's so inviting and kind and she's so warm, and
she's made them all a special drink, and then she
makes them a special food, and she really looks in
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people's eyes and asks them and she seems really fascinated
by what they say. Like, I just think she would
be a joy to be around, But I also feel
like she would just judge me without meaning to she'd
be like, oh, you had a coke? Is it a
birthday party? Like do you know that's going to kill you? Right?
Or when she was packing her bag to go on
that trip with her friend and she was like, so
you just go and take these like special sheets that
you have in the laundry and you fold them up
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in your own pillowcase and you put them through your bag,
just the stuff you already have at home. And I'm like,
I don't have perfumed laundry sheets, do you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Someone gave me one for my birth a.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Perfumed laundry sheet, But she has a pack of them.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
They're crazy and like even like the little cases she
puts like her shoes.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Like that's what I mean. She does like little things
in her head is like so.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Normal and mundane. And for me, I'm like, rewind, what
what was that su case?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What was what?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Where did you get those things from? I don't have
any powdered sheets in my launder just use laundry pillow case. Yeah,
well I have that, and I do take my own
pillow expensive. I take my own pillow case with me.
When we're about to do all our trips coming up,
you'll see me with my little pillowcase away. Yeah, I'm
not putting my head on a pillowcase from a hotel.
Why because other people have put their heads, but they
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wash there, Meghan Markle and I know, do you know
that the ones about.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I take the hotel pillow cases and then make them
my own.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, Okay, that's straight up theft. There was one moment
where I related to Megan Marcles so hard. I did
start to think that we could be the same person.
And it wasn't when she was cooking or making anything
fancy or anything like that, because I just don't have
that natural hostess element in me. Actually, there were two moments.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
You do that you're a hostess to a point, I.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Like to host myself. Yeah, my living room with my
flowers and candles, with my little snacks and my wine,
and I like we.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Like making things look nice. I just what she liked.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yes, when she put the raspberry sawbet with the champagne
in it and had that, I was like, I do
do that at home sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Whereas I would have just had the champagne by itself
and then eating the raspberries.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Really, okay, you've got to I will make that few
one day.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's really really nice.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, but I've got those same glasses too. It's all
in how you present it, that's true. But there was
two moments. One in the first episode where one of
the women I can't even think of her name, said
to Megan Markle, oh, I don't really like flowers. And
it's the only time I've seen just discussed in Meghan
Markle's face. Oh it. Remember that.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It was the lady who owns Milk Bar and she's
like a well renowned like pastry dessert chair and yeah,
she was like, this is why, Megan, you have two
massive so who doesn't like flowers, but like you can't
bring a massive chef put them in the kitchen and
be like, now we're going to go do flower arrangement
and I'm going to teach it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And flower arranging is hard.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's like chefs, because I'm so sorry to chefs out there, okay,
but I do have a bone.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
To pick with your Jesus you're hearing with this one.
I love chefs.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
The chefs I know are so particular in being perfect
that when you put them into an environment where they
can't be perfect and they have to learn in front
of other people they freak out.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
These are the chefs I know, the chefs I've experienced.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, I would say that's the true thing, because it
is that you have to be perfect in doing it.
You can't just be like, oh, this is fine because
you're sending food, especially these like three top tier Michelin
Star kind of chefs that she's working.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
And the chef she brought on and were very competitive, yeah,
and they wanted to win the flower arrangement contest.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And then this woman's like, I don't really like flowers.
You just see it's the one time Megan Mankle's mask
kind of fell and she was like what And so
I really related to her arrangement.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I could tell she didn't like flowers. She's like a
bunch of weeds.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
She was like, oh, this is fine, and maybe had
all these flowers played and she's like picking out grass
from the guard.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And then at one stage when she was cooking, she's like, oh,
I did just go outside and redo my flower arrangement,
Like Megan Miles didn't do the best. Yeah, of course,
who's really.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
She definitely practiced that like days before her.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So that was the one time I related to her.
The other time is when she was saying that where
she's really nervous, especially when she was a working actress
and auditioning. She always used to get like a big
red stressed neck, like a whole neckwork. She got chi
and so she had to go to every event in
eternal neck. And if you look at all my interviews,
every big interview I do, I'm wearing a really high
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neck because I also get a spotchy neck. My friends
call it a hickey neck, Like my whole neck just
breaks out, and like I hope she like, hey, girl,
I get you.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I remember that because it was so funny, Like I
feel like it's one of those moments where you want
to be friends with someone so so badly that you
just agree with everything they say. And I feel like
that's chrissy to Megan. Megan's like I get a huge
rash on my neck, and because it's like, yes, same,
I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Don't know, girl, neck looks pretty good right now. I'm
not saying for watches.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It's like I'm really tired. Yes same, I'm also really tired.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So that's when I loved her. Now to when I
got mad at her. It was Tan from Queerie and
they were doing the cooking and everything, which is really
I like did too. And my fairy point when he
kind of looked at her when she was doing the
blast bits of the cooking and he was like, what
are those things that you're sprinkling on there? And she's like, oh,
dry flowers and love them. And she's like just putting
handfuls of dried flowers on anything. Anything in that kitchen
(28:23):
that's around just gets dried flowers floated. And he's like,
but no. It was when they were doing their arts
and crafts, so she was like, let's do aprons for
your two kids.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Like she went from doing this beautiful silk screening on
scarves that looked so beautiful and artistic and I was like,
oh my god, I could never like And I was
thinking to myself, she's really clever. She really knows what
she's doing. Sometimes when you see her do her caligraphy
and stuff, like, this woman has proper skills that I
could never imagine having. And then she went from that,
she went from such a high high to such a
low low because then she got out these aprons and
(28:59):
she took a big chunk of celery, cut the top
off it, took the celery head, dunked it in some
paint and then put it on the apron, and then
looked at ten France from queer Eye, who's like no
one for like being able to create incredible things, and
goes and he's like.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
A fashion ic. He knows everything about everything of fashion.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And then she like dunks the painted celery, puts it
off and it leaves a big clump of paint, and
she looks at him and goes, see what we can create?
And I was like what. And then she they were
getting other vegetables and he's like, I'm gonna try it
with the lime, and gets the lime and the paint
puts it and I was like, so this is what
I did in kindergarten. And even when I was in kindergarten,
I looked down and was like, this is beneath me,
(29:40):
like taking fruit and vegetables and putting it.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
All as fruit and vegetables are quite expensive. When she
started cutting that celary, I was like, oh, I wonder what.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
They got to cook in here?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
And then I say her dunking the vegetables and paint,
and I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You're like, I hope you washed that off and ate
it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And also, the aprons looked horrible.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I was gonna say they look fine, but you're right,
they did look horrible. You know myself. It was the
worst thing is that he's got these two young kids,
and he says that he has to go away for
work a lot of the time, and his kids get
really upset and when they come back, they go to
his husband more so, his kids get really upset when
he's away for work. And then Meghan kind of insinuates that, like, oh,
well you're away now filming this like this is work,
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but you get to take these aprons back. And I
was like, those aprons are so ugly. They are not
worth his kids loving him. Last.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
No, TAM's gonna like be burning them on the way across.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The Biro without a Santa Monica and like threw him
out the window and they went they just flew over
a cliff because I was like, this man is literally
is that a salary?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
He's literally like, oh.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
When I leave my kids, they love me less. And
she was like, well, these aprons will make up for it. No.
I felt like a little bit protective of Meghan Markle
as I was watching this show is that she comes
across lovely and then she also comes across insane. And
I think the insane part comes from the editing in
a way, because do you remember the part where they
were making those little crack of cheese things and they
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brawled them out of the oven and then she was like,
do you guys want some? And the camera panned around
and there was about fifteen people in the room, so
many people with cameras, so many producers, and they obviously
do show her talking back and forth to the camera
people throughout the show, like they break that fourth wall.
But at the same time, that was the first time
I saw just how many people in the room and
they were all laughing and chatting. And that's when I
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realized that because sometimes when she looks crazy, it looks
like she's in a room by herself when she doesn't
have her guest. She's doing all that cooking and prepping
and stuff, and she's just talking and she looks like
she's room by herself, and she keeps laughing and looking
down and laughing. But nothing funny has happened, Yeah, nothing
remotely interesting has happened. So she looks crazy that she's
in a kitchen. It looks like she's laughing at herself,
saying I like to put lemon on things. Ha ha ha,
(31:47):
Like that's a crazy person's act. But then I realized
that there's so much that's been cut out that she's
Everyone in the room is laughing at something conversation, and
she's joining in that conversation, but that's not being shown. No. Yeah,
and she does the editing. She has said that she
goes through the note, she does the editing, she does
the cuts. So but I just feel like someone needs
to come in and be like, hey, you look crazy,
(32:09):
And you don't have to because you're laughing with fifteen
other people in the room. And you know what it's
like when you're on those shoot days, and you know
when we go and do the projects and stuff, like
you with these people all day, you do get a
little hysterical. You have in jokes, things are funny, but
we're just not seeing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And it's so.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Hard even when you're the one editing, yeah, because you
know the context. Yeah, and that gets muddled, like you
can't see the fresh eyes, which is why we never
heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, allowed, but I do agree with.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That, and I wish that in some of those like
takes where she is by herself and prepping for the guests,
I wish I pulled someone from the crew to be
with her, yeah, because I think that would have been
so fun to watch her interact with the normal person.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I do think sometimes I say this with love in
my heart, because all of these people are so talented
that it's okay that they're not TV personalities. But often
she would have a really well known chef or someone
on with her, and because they're not naturals in front
of the camera, she's having to do all the heavy lifting,
like chatting and trying to be funny, and it's just
not working. I feel like she's like in decayling with
(33:09):
her every episode or somewhat something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh my god, I imagine if she had Mindy Ca
that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I would watch's just something like that to kind of
heighten it, because I mean, Megan Michael's very sweet, but
she's she's not funny. She's not funny intentionally, so it
kind of I feel like that's where it kind of PEPs, because.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
She's trying to figure out, Like I think, also, what
type of show she wants it to be. Yeah, And
like you said, if it's a guest who's like a
chef or someone who isn't like media facing, she has
to do the heavy lifting and be all the personality.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But when she has Mindy Kayling or like Christy Tigan,
like she can take a step.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Back and kind of bounce off.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
And especially people that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
She's actually friends with that she knows you did, knows
how they will act in front of a camera exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Again, as you were saying before, there's some little tipbits
of her life when she talks about the fact that
on their third date they went camping in Botswana. Can
you imagine that you're in love with a guy you
think you're going to marry, and then you go and
spend five days together in a tent.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I like camping, but not with someone I'm dating. No,
and not Also in Botswana, it's like beautiful, but it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Crazy, and like third date, I'd been like I'm getting
murdered by a prince.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
What a way to go. But also every time they
gave little tibets of their wedding, like I haven't seen
those wedding place cards before, Like the table settings or
even saying.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
How like the menu had all like little bits of
like where all the food came from?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So I guess.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And I was just imagined the Queen just.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Reading reading the Queen since down and goes to Prince
Philip like there's a map on our table showing where
all the food is from, and they just like get
us out of here. But then like they invented like
a special type of like michelin sta fried chicken to
serve with the after party, and it looks so good,
and I was like, this is the information I want,
Like what food did you serve at the after part
of your wedding? I don't even want to know why
you hate the Royals, although I want to know that
(34:49):
as well, but I also just want all this behind the.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Queen eat fried chicken?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, did the Queen eat the fried chicken bites? What
does she call them? The late night bite?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
The late night by fried chicken?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah? So good?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
No, I don't I think the Queen would have tapped
out before the after party?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So that is with Love
Megan season two.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
What a rollic.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm going to say, we're not getting a third seat. Well,
I think she'll do something else with Netflix, but it
won't be this. But again, I know they don't want
to film it, but I just want a documentary of
her life. I actually loved her, like packing her suitcase,
jumping in her car, driving herself to LA having that girls.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Or when she's out on.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
The bode though, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
The Girl's week in Away when she was like packing
the baseball cap and she was like, I made this one.
My husband's forty. There's like a joey and it was
like the initials on the cap was pH for Prince Harry.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That was so good. She was like, I have so
many of these and I wear them all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
My god, I love it. Like in that way, I
was like, oh, you're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Did you think that was like a message to the
royal family.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, as I like, I'm taking the piss because like
we call him Prince Harry at home. I think, Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And even when she was out on the boat with
the sea urchins and all that sort of stuff, like
when she tried to like cook seafood.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Oh, she I genuinely thought she was going to faint.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
At the lobsters.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
She's like, I'm okay with a fish and he was
just like, you crack this lobster and then you pull
its head off, and she was like.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He was like and look the loves a saying Megan, Megan, please,
I need to be eaten.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's what I mean when you've got a really good
co host with you, because that shif was just like
going for god, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
He did not care that and he was marriating.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
The lobster's death to her and she was she was
so panicking. She's like, oh, I'm just a bit hotd
I'm gonna take my cardigan off and like leaves the
shot like, no, Meghan, come back. You're gonna eat the lobster.
You need to watch it, diet, that's the rules.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
And he's like, can we eat the Urchin's like reproductive
system and Meghan's like, I think we're going to cut
that out and he's like, oh, sorry, not reproductive.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Have you had to see Urchin? They're really good.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It is the best thing I've ever put in my mouth.
Me too. It's so good, so good. So maybe would
get to see Urchin tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Maybe like in the City of Yeah, we both look.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Close to the fish markets.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Okay, let's do that because we're just making our weekend.
It's really expensive as well.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I can't take twenty five.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I'm like, girl, no Netflix got a budget for this.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I was just thinking because our last episode where she
is cooking for the crew, just.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Imagining me being there, like I would have been ignoring
the heaving pair on my plan yes, running to them,
like taking a full lobster, smashing it into my play.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Like this is why I think she just hasn't found
her audience, because the people watching it are the people
who want the Megan market intel, and I actually think
people who just like cooking and lifestyle shows. I mean,
obviously there's better ones out there, but it does feel
like that's the market she's going into, Like when she's
on the boat, when she's with the person who's explaining
how they got the sea urchins and what they do,
and I'm like, this is super interesting. But I also
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feel like we just don't consume content in a Netflix
sense like that, Like it felt like you should be
TikTok videos, like if she put these up as little
TikTok videos are like here's how I do the fruit
art here's how you do have flower ranging. Here's how
you cut open a sea urchin like people watch the
shit out of that.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
She needs to get back together with Gwenna Paltrow. Yeah,
and she needs to be like, hey, I need to
get some lead magnets off you. I need to steal
some of your audience. That's the audience she needs, Yes,
like the people who genuinely follow Goop, not Gwennip Paltrow.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
She needs that the Goop followers.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's so true. Well that's our business advice to Megan market.
We'll plan for your mags and we'll send it through
more packing, less art with vegetables. So that is our review.
I brilliant a review with love Megan.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Much nicer than our first review from season one.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah we've come around, Yeah we've come around. But also
like I think the first one was maybe just a
shock to our system because we just weren't expecting some
of the things that happened.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But this one was.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Quite a nice watch, pleasant watch, pleasant watch.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
We watched it, so you don't have to, So there
we go. But it is on Netflix now if you
do want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
If you do, don't have to, dare.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
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This episode was produced by Minicia Swiron with sound production
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your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I'm and today we have a show that we
have been waiting months to bring you because it is
a brutally honest review of With.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Love Megan on Netflix. Pop to Pop two said I
almost did like the little fridge. I thought I was
in season six six and city we are wish I
wish I was there. I love the idea of spending
time together and.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Finding new ways to show that people you care. Look
at that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh my gosh, I could do this every day. Let's
get creative and you learn something new, nice and done.
I don't know what's happening, and I'm so glad you
came to show me how to do this is working.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Today's bout getting out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I have no idea how to start. Everybody should have
one of those at home three you think so, this
is one of the most joyful days.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So comforting, very comforting.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Often what I want to make are things I want
to share. This looks fantastic. There are easy ways to
show up lovingly.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh she has given me a goose pomp.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That is so lovely. That's delicious.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We also did a brutally honest review of season one,
so if you haven't listened to that, we will link
it in our show notes because I think that was
one of my favorite brittley honest reviews. Because I was
a bit delirious because I remember watching all eight episodes
back to back. I felt like the episodes and season
one were a bit longer, like they were more around
the forty minute mark. And I just came into the
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office after watching the last episode going I'm ready, I'm
ready to write.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We were shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
When we do a Brially honest review, which are episodes
that we talk about the biggest TV shows and movies
that have been released, and normally this is the part
of the show where I'd say, if you haven't watched
it all, go and watch it because we're going to
go deep on spoilers. However, there are no spoilers with this.
If you haven't watched it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Imagine if they had like a full plot twist.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, that's what I thought when you said this. More,
I hadn't watched last fifteen minutes the last episode. I
was like, imagine if I was like, oh my god,
things go off the rails. They didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
They didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's a very much a home lifestyle, warm friendly.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's like a show you put on in the background
while you do something else.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, to an extent, it wouldn't be my choice
of a background show. But yes, with love Megan Season
one came out a few months ago, and as soon
as it finished, Meghan Markle herself let us know. I
know she's Megan.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Sussex now, but for all time sakes, I'll call her
Megan market Minny Kayling. We'll be like, hey, no one
call her Megan Mirkle. Don't make my mistake.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Mindy Keyling's not watching the season because she's like, I
can't revisit the trauma of sitting in that hothouse and
making a tea party and they being publicly caught out
on the internet for months on it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I was actually thinking about that episode in particular while
watching the season two. Sorry to segue, but like this
season is I feel like way more educational in the
way that she's teaching like her friends to do things.
And it felt like that episode of Mindy Kaaling was
more like here's something you can do with your kids.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, And I was like, then why is Mindy there?
Because Mindy was like, I pay people to do this.
I don't do it myself because I'm super busy and
I run a huge production.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Every other episode, Like it's like these adults learning things
that they could do as adults, and for Mindy.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It was just like, here's something you can do for
your kids. She was like, no, thanks, Which is interesting
because that's what Megan Michael came in and said after
the season one aired, is that they had filmed it
all in one go. Yes, so season two was locked
and loaded, so there's no learnings, no feedback, there was
no time to go back and reshuffle things and redo things.
What they filmed is what they had. So you and
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I have watched. I watched all in one night. I
think he watched it across two nights.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I started. I did four episodes last night and four
episodes this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
A healthy way to do it. I was. I can't
even describe this state I was in by the time
I did eight hours in one night after working a
full day in this office of Megan Michael's new show.
But take me through your thought journey of watching it.
What was your experience?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Like, so had half a bottle of wine?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I did do you can't watch that so much and
if you're not drinking, but like, we couldn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So we also have a massive work project coming up,
So I was in that mindset of like working on
that project while.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Also trying to watch and enjoy.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, with love Megan, I have to pause there there
is a comma, so you have to pause. And so
I had half a bottle of wine. In the first
two and a half episodes. I was like, you know what,
I think this might be my favorite show of the year. Really,
I loved it so much in the first episode, correct.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, well it is kind of I was really into it.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I had so much fun, and then like I started
to sober up and I was like, Oh, this is
just this is the.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Exact same thing that we watched. So this is the
exact same thing we watched last season.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But because I knew that they filmed it back to
back and it was like this big multimillion dollar deal
that they had with Netflix, that's the reason she had
to do this.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Show in the first place. I went in being a bit.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
More kinder towards what I was going to experience. So
because I knew it wasn't going to be different from
season one, it was literally going to be the same thing.
So I went in and I feel like my outtake
from this season is much more She's just doing what
she wants to do.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm going to leave her alone.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well that's why I thing a lot of people hate
watched it. Well, actually, as we know, a lot of
people didn't watch it all because it was number three
hundred on Netflix. In saying that though it had over
five million views, it's just that Netflix numbers are so
huge on network television that would be like the biggest
show of the year. So it's not that people didn't
watch it, it's just that it didn't crack the Netflix
like top thirty.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I want to know, like all the shows that cracked
the top thirty that didn't get the multimillion.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Dollar deal going yeah, hey, where's our money.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Well that's the thing too, is like there's been this
big song and dance about Meghan and Harry having this
one hundred million dollar deal with Netflix and the fact
that it expires in September of this year, so it's
expired now and they won't be renewing it. And I
think that's been painted as a bit of our like
Megan and Harry are failures. Netflix doesn't want anything to
do with them. But it's more so that Netflix is
cutting all of those big long term content deals and
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doing project by project, which a lot of media companies
are doing at the moment. Because the Obama's also had
their deal ended, and that's not making headlines, but they're
just like, we're not in the business of now giving
people a huge lump sum of cash and just seeing
what they make and green lighting projects. It's like, you
bring us a project we want, We're going to buy it.
So Megan and Harry are still working with Netflix, right, Okay,
I mean, I don't know why I've become their defender,
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but I'm a defender of truth that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Before we get into it, I do want to point
out the biggest issue when it comes to filming back
to back. The worst thing, okay that can happen when
you're filming a show back to back is if your
dog dies.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh no, I know, I know, guy the bagele. But
it's good because otherwise then we saw a little bit
of Mom and Maya.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah yeah, ah, oh my god, because I grew up
with Beagles and when I saw a guy there, knowing
that guy's not with us anymore and he's.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Still such a main character.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Is main Harry. That's good. They can't edit him out.
That's his final like role, his final big role.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And then like Christy Teagan sees him and she's like,
who's this and Meghan's like, it's Guy, and Chrisy's like,
I love how he's just chilling and Megan's like, yeah,
he's an old man. And I was like, Christy, you
have no idea, what's about it?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Did you see that? The day that With Love Meghan
season two came out, Meghan Minkle shared on her Instagram story.
So she did this video of her walking into her
beautiful kitchen, like her real life kitchen film there and
little Lilla Bette is there and she runs past in
her pajamas, and she said that Prince Harry had given
her this gift and it's a huge, huge, blown up
black and white photo of her and Guy. So he
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must have known. Prince Harry h as she calls him,
must have known that it would be a really traumatic
day because the show was coming out and Guy's inn
and he passed away, so he gifted her this big
black and white portrait of Guy to be like he's
still here. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was just really really sad. It was like that
was my plot twist and the show. Okay, the first
scene of.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Guy, I was like, it's Guy.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oh I forgot I forgot Yes, So that's because they
fill them back to back, so guys in the whole thing,
and then he passed away. I kind of thought of that,
but that's so true. So We Love Megan Part two
follows a similar kind of flow to the first series,
which is some celebrity guests, some friends of Meghan Markle,
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and some people she's never met, come in and out
of this house that they've rented, which people are really
upset about. But of course they've rented a house. What
are they going to do put up a TV set
for weeks in her own home where her children are.
She actually never said I loved how people thought they
were being detectives. They're like, I've discovered it's on her
real house, and it's like, I do think that wasn't
being hidden.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No, I mean I did write an article about it.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, you discovered it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I discovered.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think it was fun to point out, But I
just don't think it was the big kind of like
we've got you moments.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It was more funny in the way that the whole
show is about being a hostess and creating a home
and building your home, and she's like opening these drawers
and going in the pantry as if she lives there
when she definitely does.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
She definitely doesn't. That's so true. But yeah, but I
think I think in the second season we have moved on.
We have moved on.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
At least it's the same house that's the first season.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I ran no exactly. So it's the same house.
So guests come in and out, and she either cooks
with them, prepares things with them, or teaches them little
home craft tricks.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And oh she'll have like a jump card where she
does something before they get there.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, and she's in like a different outfit on a
different day.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And those week moments were.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Raping the honey for the bees, like oh my god,
the scarves, making the scarves from scratch.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That was the point where and we're not going to
go in order here, mostly because I feel like most
of you guys haven't watched this show, so you won't
be like, hey, that happened in episode five.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But also so there's like no spoilers, so each episode
stood at.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
The whole thing is like a fever dream. I went
through so many emotions watching this. At first, I was
like I poured my wine. I'm like, okay, here we go.
She is just so beautiful and comforting to watch on
TV is a big thing. So she came on TV
and I was like, here we go. This is fun.
And then I went through so many emotions. I went
through like sadness for her, Then I went through liking her.
Then I was in completely enraged at one moment, which
we'll get to, and then I went back through acceptance,
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and then I went like career plodding for her in
my head of where she should like go next with
her life and what she could do, and that was
such and then the end I felt like like kind
of joy for her. So I went through the gambit
of emotions over like, seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I want to know what made you rage? But first,
but first I want to talk about Christy Tagan. Yes, okay,
So this was the second episode Christy Tagan comes over.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
John Legend is also over.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
He escorts Christy Tagan, which was I guess the one
jump scare that we had because he wasn't meant to
be there.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Even it was like I don't know you were here.
Hate isn't here. That's good, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Little fall up here.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It was a weird moment of going like why are
you here? My husband's long.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And he does in that moment, internationally around best selling
artist John Legend does look like a handbag man, like
he's just been kind of wrought and dropped off and
he doesn't know what to do. He's looking at the cameras,
he doesn't know if he's been filmed or not. He's
just he's very nervous.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
He's very very nervous. So Megan and Christy are like cooking. Yeah,
this is something that I feel like Christy take and
should not have done.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Really. Yeah. The thing about Chrissy Teagan is like, this
is what she was known for for a really long time,
is that she would do those cooking videos at home
with her and her mum, and she was like building
this whole franchise around that, and she would film all
day on Instagram these moments of her life and her
kitchen and cooking tips. And then that whole thing blew
up with her bullying Courtney stodd In and step away
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from that brand that she had built with Chris Jenna
and step away from what she was doing. And she
doesn't post like I mean she's got four kids now,
she had like only lot or two.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Kids and four dogs.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, and tod a busy lady. But I think also
like that whole relatable I'm in my kitchen thing kind
of died when a scandal happened.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, that's good to know because I knew that she
had a lot of cookbooks that everyone became obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, she's authored a lot of cookbooks.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But then it came to measuring ingredients and she had
to put three hundred grams of flour into a cup. Yeah,
and she kind of like did like a bit of
a sprinkle, like a pinch of salt. Yeah, and then
she was like, I don't know how much three hundred
grams is And you can even see, like Megan like
immediately her face was like she thought she was joking.
She was like oh, and then she immediately changed a
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f and she was like, oh, it's a bit more.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, it's like quite a bit more.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I was like, I thought this woman was like a chef.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, she is a chef. Not making me defend these women,
but cooking and baking are two very different things, and
baking is a very hard skill, a different skill. It's more.
And Meghan says this in one of.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Her episodes, Cooking is art, baking as science.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, and I really feel it in my boat because
it is just not good to lie. That is, yeah, exactly,
And also who amongst us is That's why when I
tried to teach you to cook in the past, I've
said that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is a fair point because I don't do either.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So that's why I can speak the TV with my
wine and my uber it's going.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Can't meanwhile you Meanwhile, you kin't even turn your.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Meanwhile, I don't own a measurement car or flower.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You don't own flower flower because you can put it over. Okay,
we can't. I've been trying to the backstory here is
I've been trying to teach Emily to cook for years.
More than that, I've been trying to teach you how
to grocery shop and then cook the basic items you buy.
And we haven't got there. And it's fine, you're perfect,
you're good at other things.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's really kind, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But when she said that, like I don't know the
measurements and stuff, I felt that in my bones because
I'm a really good cook, but I can't bake. It's
two different sides of the brain, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Two different sides. So maybe I learned baking and then
we can teach each other.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, I thought that's a really empty threat.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
But sure, we haven't about to spend a lot of
time together, so I feel like we have opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
What are you going to be baking on all the
plane trips were about to take?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's like, do you guys have the oven?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Here?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's a plain oven.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We go down to the hotel kitchen to be like,
make some muffins.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Makes some muffins for my colleagues. Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Then she does this thing where like a lot of
it is about cooking and being in the kitchen, and
a lot of the guests she had over for this
season in particular, were like cooks, right, like including like
Tan France.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And like she had like chefs on.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
She had a few chefs on Jay Shetty and his
wife Rody, Like he doesn't cook and they said that,
but she does. So a lot of her guests know
how to work a kitchen. But then she makes them
do like an Arts and Crafts is it the.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Arts and Crafts moments where the guest fads are a
bit like this is just like a few times they
look at the camera like is this really happening? Because
a few J.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Shetty, who interviews billionaires on his podcast, and see.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Making soap and.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
He looks so confused, and he looked scared, and I
would be scared too, because again, soap making, I'm assuming
like bacon measurements and science. And this man was like,
I'm a podcast host. I can give you inspirational pep talk.
I can't make soap and why would I want to
do that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh, it's so funny. And obviously they're there for the
shows and no one can say no. But with Christy
they had to make flower jewelry, flower jewelry, which I
don't think we saw the end product of.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh no, you saw at the end. See this is
you were probably deep in the wine by now you're
pouring another class, you see it. Yeah? Yeah, After Chrissie
leaves because they've got a set for twenty four hours,
I did information I didn't know. I did want to that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Chrissie's looked better than Mekin's when they were doing the flower.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Pressing potentially, Yeah, she had an eye for it. Were
they're doing the flower pressing. The whole Chrissy Teagan episode
was so funny because she comes in, she's so excited.
John Legend looks afraid. Then John Legend leaves, Yeah, and
hours live allegedly an hours pass because these women, they cook,
they bake, they chat, they decorate, then they go and
make flower jewelry and then later on their back in
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the kitchen and Chrissy Teagan has all of her kid's
birthdays tattooed on her arm because because she can't remember
a million of them. Well it's Lou, Yeah, Lunar, mile
Stie and Wren. But then she looks at her arm
and her plan has backfired because she can't read some
of the dates and smudgie and which I feel like,
who did that for her? Surely like a proper tattoo
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artist did Chrissy Teagan's arm. And also she can't remember
which birthday is assigned to wish child. So one stage,
this is hours after they've arrived. She panics and she
goes John, and John Legend pokes his head out of
some little room where he's obviously just been sitting with
his hands folded the whole time. And I was like,
has that man been here the whole time I've been
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doing writing songs. He's sitting in the in the little
like in the pantry, he's.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Working the camera like, Megan, I know you fight all
your stuff, Let me get big.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Let me do it. It's so funny. But also when they're
out making the flower jewelry, Megan Minkle's describing all the
different flowers and then she holds up one flower to
Chrissy Teagan, and Chrissy Teagan mistakes that flower for the
name of one of Megan Michael's children. So let's pick
which flowers I want to do it for our children's
birth months. Okay, Miles is May Your Miles is May sixteenth,
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and so Myles and Archie were both Lily of the Valley. Yes,
and okay, Honsworth this one what I was like, you're
my kid name, it's my child. You've never heard of this?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Sorry Worth.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
By the way, if I could have kept a secret
like that, I'm in impressive is that Hansworth has.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
This whole episode felt like a fever dre Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Firstly because I'm like, if anything, you guys should know
each other the most because you've been on deal or
no deal together.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh yeah, I loved them talking about that.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Anytime she talks about her work and am I keep going,
keep going.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, that's what people want to see, and that's what
polaroid photos.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Every time a.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Polaroid photo came up of like behind the scenes of
their wedding or their lives, like, that's when I leaned in.
And that's also why I think people find this show
so disappointing, is that they'd tune in because they think
they're going to get all these details about Meghan Markle,
but it's really just her making soap, literally, and there's little.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You can like. And she always like teasers where she
was like talking about h and I went on our
third date camping, and then you're like, oh, tell me more,
tell me more, and then she's like back to my
capture wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm like, God, I actually loved how she brought that up,
but I wanted more of it because that was their
third date, which if you've read Prince Harry's book, he
talks about all what in there is that on their
third date? Yeah, spare out now.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Ready for spect her too. Maybe I'll talk about that
fourth day.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I hope, so I would just read about their dates. Honestly,
they're so funny.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I need someone who like is on YouTube to take
boat seasons of wit love Meghan and then just put
all the juicy bits together, like anytime she talks about Harry,
all the polaroid photos, like the's collages as she posted
in season one. I just want all of that in
one big, like thirty minute block.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well that's why the documentary about Harry and Meghan is
all the most watched like debut for a documentary on
Netflix of all time, Like it broke all these records
because people just want to see their life, which is
what I would watch the shout of too, but instead
I'm just watching her making soap instead.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We just know how to cure a fitch.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I still don't know. It was not following.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Did you see that crazy microwave she had, the one that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Like pours out Wow?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Really when they were baking together, pouring my wine at
that moment. No, when she was doing like a baking
thing she has like well, it's obviously not her house,
but like she's obviously really into baking because instead of
like melting butter in the normal microwave, she has this
pull out draw and she just puts everything in the drawer,
closes it and then it does something.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, and it's all melted and warm.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh my god, she has a microwave just for melting butter.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't know those things exist. Like that's how poor
we are we are girls, Like, what is this contraction?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
My mind? Blank? I saw her poor drawer out and
it had cooked. But I was like something in my
mind was like, we don't even we can't even like
a draw microwave. And I even tried to google it,
and even my Google.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Wouldn't give me the results because I just knew I.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Could not have. Was like, girl, no, you're waiting for me.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Let me just work your already existing oven.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Fine, we're home to my fifty only came out microwave
for me, Like, where's the butter tray? It's like these.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Little things that they insert in the show. That's the
lens that I feel like that she hasn't been able
to work out of. It's like there are so many
little things that are for the ultra ultra rich that
I'm like fixated on because I've never seen something about
my life and for them it's just like a oh,
and then we have this thing. And I remember this
from season one when she was talking about her outfits
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and she was like she was like and I have
like these lime A pants and a Zara's shirt.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So I like to do a bit of high and low.
And I'm like, which one's the low.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You're like, they're actually both. I think a Zara was
meant to be the low, but the Zara was probably
a couple hundred dollars. You're like, that's a splurge for
me Clara alone, Well, exactly. I feel like in this
season and she's leaning a bit more into being a
little bit more decadent, although every so often she does
say like I buy this fancy product, you could buy
(22:16):
something similar for cheaper on the internets, no further details.
You guys put the internet right. You can google sheet candles,
And I was like, I can make it, and I can.
Thank you so much, thank you for telling me to google.
But yeah, She's given only a couple of interviews around
this release, and in one interview I did hear her
(22:36):
say that she has come to the point now where
she's like, no matter what I wear, what I say,
what I do, people are going to find fault with
me and I just can't care about that, which is
so true, so true, no matter what day.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Know if she really believes that, because in my heart,
I would be like, but I also don't want people
to hate me. But there's literally nothing she can do.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
She can't do anything, which is why she's leaning so
hard into this, and which is also why I think
they were confident in filming the back to back, because
she's like, no matter how much hate I got from
season one, like, there's literally no point, Like you can't
apply everything.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, I do think she comes across well in it.
My only kind of thought is like, she's very likable.
She is so likable. I both want to hang out
with her all the time, and I'm scared of her.
I'm scared of her in a way that my life
doesn't match up to hers, because I'm so envious of
when those guests arrive and she's got the gifts and
she's so inviting and kind and she's so warm, and
she's made them all a special drink, and then she
makes them a special food, and she really looks in
(23:34):
people's eyes and asks them and she seems really fascinated
by what they say. Like, I just think she would
be a joy to be around, But I also feel
like she would just judge me without meaning to she'd
be like, oh, you had a coke? Is it a
birthday party? Like do you know that's going to kill you? Right?
Or when she was packing her bag to go on
that trip with her friend and she was like, so
you just go and take these like special sheets that
you have in the laundry and you fold them up
(23:55):
in your own pillowcase and you put them through your bag,
just the stuff you already have at home. And I'm like,
I don't have perfumed laundry sheets, do you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Someone gave me one for my birth a.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Perfumed laundry sheet, But she has a pack of them.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
They're crazy and like even like the little cases she
puts like her shoes.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Like that's what I mean. She does like little things
in her head is like so.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Normal and mundane. And for me, I'm like, rewind, what
what was that su case?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What was what?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Where did you get those things from? I don't have
any powdered sheets in my launder just use laundry pillow case. Yeah,
well I have that, and I do take my own
pillow expensive. I take my own pillow case with me.
When we're about to do all our trips coming up,
you'll see me with my little pillowcase away. Yeah, I'm
not putting my head on a pillowcase from a hotel.
Why because other people have put their heads, but they
(24:41):
wash there, Meghan Markle and I know, do you know
that the ones about.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I take the hotel pillow cases and then make them
my own.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, Okay, that's straight up theft. There was one moment
where I related to Megan Marcles so hard. I did
start to think that we could be the same person.
And it wasn't when she was cooking or making anything
fancy or anything like that, because I just don't have
that natural hostess element in me. Actually, there were two moments.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
You do that you're a hostess to a point, I.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Like to host myself. Yeah, my living room with my
flowers and candles, with my little snacks and my wine,
and I like we.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Like making things look nice. I just what she liked.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yes, when she put the raspberry sawbet with the champagne
in it and had that, I was like, I do
do that at home sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Whereas I would have just had the champagne by itself
and then eating the raspberries.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Really, okay, you've got to I will make that few
one day.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's really really nice.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, but I've got those same glasses too. It's all
in how you present it, that's true. But there was
two moments. One in the first episode where one of
the women I can't even think of her name, said
to Megan Markle, oh, I don't really like flowers. And
it's the only time I've seen just discussed in Meghan
Markle's face. Oh it. Remember that.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It was the lady who owns Milk Bar and she's
like a well renowned like pastry dessert chair and yeah,
she was like, this is why, Megan, you have two
massive so who doesn't like flowers, but like you can't
bring a massive chef put them in the kitchen and
be like, now we're going to go do flower arrangement
and I'm going to teach it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And flower arranging is hard.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's like chefs, because I'm so sorry to chefs out there, okay,
but I do have a bone.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
To pick with your Jesus you're hearing with this one.
I love chefs.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
The chefs I know are so particular in being perfect
that when you put them into an environment where they
can't be perfect and they have to learn in front
of other people they freak out.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
These are the chefs I know, the chefs I've experienced.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, I would say that's the true thing, because it
is that you have to be perfect in doing it.
You can't just be like, oh, this is fine because
you're sending food, especially these like three top tier Michelin
Star kind of chefs that she's working.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
And the chef she brought on and were very competitive, yeah,
and they wanted to win the flower arrangement contest.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And then this woman's like, I don't really like flowers.
You just see it's the one time Megan Mankle's mask
kind of fell and she was like what And so
I really related to her arrangement.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I could tell she didn't like flowers. She's like a
bunch of weeds.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
She was like, oh, this is fine, and maybe had
all these flowers played and she's like picking out grass
from the guard.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And then at one stage when she was cooking, she's like, oh,
I did just go outside and redo my flower arrangement,
Like Megan Miles didn't do the best. Yeah, of course,
who's really.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
She definitely practiced that like days before her.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So that was the one time I related to her.
The other time is when she was saying that where
she's really nervous, especially when she was a working actress
and auditioning. She always used to get like a big
red stressed neck, like a whole neckwork. She got chi
and so she had to go to every event in
eternal neck. And if you look at all my interviews,
every big interview I do, I'm wearing a really high
(27:27):
neck because I also get a spotchy neck. My friends
call it a hickey neck, Like my whole neck just
breaks out, and like I hope she like, hey, girl,
I get you.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I remember that because it was so funny, Like I
feel like it's one of those moments where you want
to be friends with someone so so badly that you
just agree with everything they say. And I feel like
that's chrissy to Megan. Megan's like I get a huge
rash on my neck, and because it's like, yes, same,
I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Don't know, girl, neck looks pretty good right now. I'm
not saying for watches.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It's like I'm really tired. Yes same, I'm also really tired.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So that's when I loved her. Now to when I
got mad at her. It was Tan from Queerie and
they were doing the cooking and everything, which is really
I like did too. And my fairy point when he
kind of looked at her when she was doing the
blast bits of the cooking and he was like, what
are those things that you're sprinkling on there? And she's like, oh,
dry flowers and love them. And she's like just putting
handfuls of dried flowers on anything. Anything in that kitchen
(28:23):
that's around just gets dried flowers floated. And he's like,
but no. It was when they were doing their arts
and crafts, so she was like, let's do aprons for
your two kids.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Like she went from doing this beautiful silk screening on
scarves that looked so beautiful and artistic and I was like,
oh my god, I could never like And I was
thinking to myself, she's really clever. She really knows what
she's doing. Sometimes when you see her do her caligraphy
and stuff, like, this woman has proper skills that I
could never imagine having. And then she went from that,
she went from such a high high to such a
low low because then she got out these aprons and
(28:59):
she took a big chunk of celery, cut the top
off it, took the celery head, dunked it in some
paint and then put it on the apron, and then
looked at ten France from queer Eye, who's like no
one for like being able to create incredible things, and
goes and he's like.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
A fashion ic. He knows everything about everything of fashion.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And then she like dunks the painted celery, puts it
off and it leaves a big clump of paint, and
she looks at him and goes, see what we can create?
And I was like what. And then she they were
getting other vegetables and he's like, I'm gonna try it
with the lime, and gets the lime and the paint
puts it and I was like, so this is what
I did in kindergarten. And even when I was in kindergarten,
I looked down and was like, this is beneath me,
(29:40):
like taking fruit and vegetables and putting it.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
All as fruit and vegetables are quite expensive. When she
started cutting that celary, I was like, oh, I wonder what.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
They got to cook in here?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
And then I say her dunking the vegetables and paint,
and I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You're like, I hope you washed that off and ate
it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And also, the aprons looked horrible.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I was gonna say they look fine, but you're right,
they did look horrible. You know myself. It was the
worst thing is that he's got these two young kids,
and he says that he has to go away for
work a lot of the time, and his kids get
really upset and when they come back, they go to
his husband more so, his kids get really upset when
he's away for work. And then Meghan kind of insinuates that, like, oh,
well you're away now filming this like this is work,
(30:19):
but you get to take these aprons back. And I
was like, those aprons are so ugly. They are not
worth his kids loving him. Last.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
No, TAM's gonna like be burning them on the way across.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The Biro without a Santa Monica and like threw him
out the window and they went they just flew over
a cliff because I was like, this man is literally
is that a salary?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
He's literally like, oh.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
When I leave my kids, they love me less. And
she was like, well, these aprons will make up for it. No.
I felt like a little bit protective of Meghan Markle
as I was watching this show is that she comes
across lovely and then she also comes across insane. And
I think the insane part comes from the editing in
a way, because do you remember the part where they
were making those little crack of cheese things and they
(31:05):
brawled them out of the oven and then she was like,
do you guys want some? And the camera panned around
and there was about fifteen people in the room, so
many people with cameras, so many producers, and they obviously
do show her talking back and forth to the camera
people throughout the show, like they break that fourth wall.
But at the same time, that was the first time
I saw just how many people in the room and
they were all laughing and chatting. And that's when I
(31:26):
realized that because sometimes when she looks crazy, it looks
like she's in a room by herself when she doesn't
have her guest. She's doing all that cooking and prepping
and stuff, and she's just talking and she looks like
she's room by herself, and she keeps laughing and looking
down and laughing. But nothing funny has happened, Yeah, nothing
remotely interesting has happened. So she looks crazy that she's
in a kitchen. It looks like she's laughing at herself,
saying I like to put lemon on things. Ha ha ha,
(31:47):
Like that's a crazy person's act. But then I realized
that there's so much that's been cut out that she's
Everyone in the room is laughing at something conversation, and
she's joining in that conversation, but that's not being shown. No. Yeah,
and she does the editing. She has said that she
goes through the note, she does the editing, she does
the cuts. So but I just feel like someone needs
to come in and be like, hey, you look crazy,
(32:09):
And you don't have to because you're laughing with fifteen
other people in the room. And you know what it's
like when you're on those shoot days, and you know
when we go and do the projects and stuff, like
you with these people all day, you do get a
little hysterical. You have in jokes, things are funny, but
we're just not seeing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And it's so.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Hard even when you're the one editing, yeah, because you
know the context. Yeah, and that gets muddled, like you
can't see the fresh eyes, which is why we never
heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, allowed, but I do agree with.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That, and I wish that in some of those like
takes where she is by herself and prepping for the guests,
I wish I pulled someone from the crew to be
with her, yeah, because I think that would have been
so fun to watch her interact with the normal person.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I do think sometimes I say this with love in
my heart, because all of these people are so talented
that it's okay that they're not TV personalities. But often
she would have a really well known chef or someone
on with her, and because they're not naturals in front
of the camera, she's having to do all the heavy lifting,
like chatting and trying to be funny, and it's just
not working. I feel like she's like in decayling with
(33:09):
her every episode or somewhat something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh my god, I imagine if she had Mindy Ca
that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I would watch's just something like that to kind of
heighten it, because I mean, Megan Michael's very sweet, but
she's she's not funny. She's not funny intentionally, so it
kind of I feel like that's where it kind of PEPs, because.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
She's trying to figure out, Like I think, also, what
type of show she wants it to be. Yeah, And
like you said, if it's a guest who's like a
chef or someone who isn't like media facing, she has
to do the heavy lifting and be all the personality.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But when she has Mindy Kayling or like Christy Tigan,
like she can take a step.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Back and kind of bounce off.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
And especially people that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
She's actually friends with that she knows you did, knows
how they will act in front of a camera exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Again, as you were saying before, there's some little tipbits
of her life when she talks about the fact that
on their third date they went camping in Botswana. Can
you imagine that you're in love with a guy you
think you're going to marry, and then you go and
spend five days together in a tent.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I like camping, but not with someone I'm dating. No,
and not Also in Botswana, it's like beautiful, but it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Crazy, and like third date, I'd been like I'm getting
murdered by a prince.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
What a way to go. But also every time they
gave little tibets of their wedding, like I haven't seen
those wedding place cards before, Like the table settings or
even saying.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
How like the menu had all like little bits of
like where all the food came from?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So I guess.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And I was just imagined the Queen just.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Reading reading the Queen since down and goes to Prince
Philip like there's a map on our table showing where
all the food is from, and they just like get
us out of here. But then like they invented like
a special type of like michelin sta fried chicken to
serve with the after party, and it looks so good,
and I was like, this is the information I want,
Like what food did you serve at the after part
of your wedding? I don't even want to know why
you hate the Royals, although I want to know that
(34:49):
as well, but I also just want all this behind the.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Queen eat fried chicken?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, did the Queen eat the fried chicken bites? What
does she call them? The late night bite?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
The late night by fried chicken?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah? So good?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
No, I don't I think the Queen would have tapped
out before the after party?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So that is with Love
Megan season two.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
What a rollic.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm going to say, we're not getting a third seat. Well,
I think she'll do something else with Netflix, but it
won't be this. But again, I know they don't want
to film it, but I just want a documentary of
her life. I actually loved her, like packing her suitcase,
jumping in her car, driving herself to LA having that girls.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Or when she's out on.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
The bode though, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
The Girl's week in Away when she was like packing
the baseball cap and she was like, I made this one.
My husband's forty. There's like a joey and it was
like the initials on the cap was pH for Prince Harry.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That was so good. She was like, I have so
many of these and I wear them all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
My god, I love it. Like in that way, I
was like, oh, you're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Did you think that was like a message to the
royal family.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, as I like, I'm taking the piss because like
we call him Prince Harry at home. I think, Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And even when she was out on the boat with
the sea urchins and all that sort of stuff, like
when she tried to like cook seafood.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Oh, she I genuinely thought she was going to faint.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
At the lobsters.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
She's like, I'm okay with a fish and he was
just like, you crack this lobster and then you pull
its head off, and she was like.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He was like and look the loves a saying Megan, Megan, please,
I need to be eaten.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's what I mean when you've got a really good
co host with you, because that shif was just like
going for god, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
He did not care that and he was marriating.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
The lobster's death to her and she was she was
so panicking. She's like, oh, I'm just a bit hotd
I'm gonna take my cardigan off and like leaves the
shot like, no, Meghan, come back. You're gonna eat the lobster.
You need to watch it, diet, that's the rules.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
And he's like, can we eat the Urchin's like reproductive
system and Meghan's like, I think we're going to cut
that out and he's like, oh, sorry, not reproductive.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Have you had to see Urchin? They're really good.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It is the best thing I've ever put in my mouth.
Me too. It's so good, so good. So maybe would
get to see Urchin tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Maybe like in the City of Yeah, we both look.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Close to the fish markets.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Okay, let's do that because we're just making our weekend.
It's really expensive as well.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I can't take twenty five.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I'm like, girl, no Netflix got a budget for this.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I was just thinking because our last episode where she
is cooking for the crew, just.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Imagining me being there, like I would have been ignoring
the heaving pair on my plan yes, running to them,
like taking a full lobster, smashing it into my play.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Like this is why I think she just hasn't found
her audience, because the people watching it are the people
who want the Megan market intel, and I actually think
people who just like cooking and lifestyle shows. I mean,
obviously there's better ones out there, but it does feel
like that's the market she's going into, Like when she's
on the boat, when she's with the person who's explaining
how they got the sea urchins and what they do,
and I'm like, this is super interesting. But I also
(37:35):
feel like we just don't consume content in a Netflix
sense like that, Like it felt like you should be
TikTok videos, like if she put these up as little
TikTok videos are like here's how I do the fruit
art here's how you do have flower ranging. Here's how
you cut open a sea urchin like people watch the
shit out of that.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
She needs to get back together with Gwenna Paltrow. Yeah,
and she needs to be like, hey, I need to
get some lead magnets off you. I need to steal
some of your audience. That's the audience she needs, Yes,
like the people who genuinely follow Goop, not Gwennip Paltrow.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
She needs that the Goop followers.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's so true. Well that's our business advice to Megan market.
We'll plan for your mags and we'll send it through
more packing, less art with vegetables. So that is our review.
I brilliant a review with love Megan.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Much nicer than our first review from season one.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah we've come around, Yeah we've come around. But also
like I think the first one was maybe just a
shock to our system because we just weren't expecting some
of the things that happened.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But this one was.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Quite a nice watch, pleasant watch, pleasant watch.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
We watched it, so you don't have to, So there
we go. But it is on Netflix now if you
do want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
If you do, don't have to, dare.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
the Spill. Do not forget to follow this spill on TikTok.
This episode was produced by Minicia Swiron with sound production
by Scott's Stronik.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
And We'll be back here on your.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Podcast feed for a week and watch at six am
tomorrow and another episode of the Spill.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Bye Bye, Lan
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