December 26, 2025 • 50 mins
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It’s hard to believe, but it’s been 20 years since the first Twilight book hit shelves—how has it been that long?! In this episode, we’re taking a nostalgic trip down memory lane to one of the cult books that shaped a generation.
We’re unpacking all the things you never knew about the saga: the casting choices that made (or broke) the film adaptation, quirky behind-the-scenes facts that’ll surprise even the biggest fans, and of course, the age-old question… Team Edward or Team Jacob?
If you love a classic nostalgia edition of Brutally Honest Reviews, let us know—we’re ready to dive even deeper into your favourite cult favourites!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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It's Laura Brodneck here, host of our pop culture and
entertainment podcast The Spill, and this summer we're curating your
lowbrow playlist, bringing you our brutally honest reviews from the
top TV shows of the year, to the biggest movies
of twenty twenty five and some of the classics that
shaped us. Every episode is giving you the Spills, completely
(00:39):
unfiltered and real takes, so your summer listening is sorted.
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our show notes from Mamma Mia. Welcome to The Spill,
(01:06):
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney can I'm
and Vnet and boy do we have a special episode
for you today. I nearly said an episode you want
to sink your teeth into, and I was like, don't
be that lame.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That quick, No, no, no, I think you can be that
lame that quick.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I think that's what we're here for, because this is
our brutally honest review of Twilight.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You're impossibly fast and strong.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
You gotta give me some answers.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'd rather hear your theories. I have considered indeoactive spiders
and kryptonite.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's all superherous stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Right. What if I'm not the hero?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What if I'm the bad guy?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You know what you are?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You're skinner is haill, white and ice cool. Don't go
out into the sunlight?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
See it? Wud see Itampio? So should we play some
moody Twilight? What's the same song?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I try to sing it and you said I wasn't
good at it.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I just think that you started singing Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I always want to.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's okay. We're just definitely not gonna waste air time
on that, so sorry, listeners, A brilliant, honest reveal Twilight.
We should say Twilight could mean many things. It could
mean the Twilight saga, which is all the movies.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It could mean the time of day.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay, yes, I wasn't gonna go there really.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Review the best time of day?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, some depending what time I've been to sleep.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I guess I quite like dusk or I like dust too.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
There's something a bit magic in the air. I also like,
you know, like midnight, the Witchy Hour. Anyway, this is
not a review of Times a Day. This is a
review of the two thousand and eight movie Twilight. So
we're doing the movie because it has been twenty years
this week since the first Twilight book by Stephanie Meyers
came out.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Isn't that insane? In this is one of the first
times where you've said something like it's been this amount
of years since this where I was there for the beginning.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, because only I'm talking about stuff from my childhood.
But I've been like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
When we did Clueless and stuff, I missed the beginning
of that. So this is like one of the first
times where I'm like.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I was there. Yes, Yes, you're in the weeds of
this important.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So we're going to be going through the Twilight movie.
And I should say we do have a third voice
in the room, our producer Manitia.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Militia twy hard TWI hard because we needed a.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Really die hard twy hard fare And it should be
said that Minisha is the executive producer of the spill,
who does all the things and you make all a
lot of the decisions. But I think it was your
first week here that you put in our diaries for
this week that we were doing a brutally honored with
your Twilight. That's how much you wanted this. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
As soon as I found out about the concept of
a brutally honest review, I was like, where do we.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Work Twilight in?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
What's the next Twilight animsary? And there's been so much
Twilight buzz this year because it did twenty years since
the book. So I was like, now it's the time.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I love it. We love a producer comes in and
forces their own ideology. Almost did you reject it onto
the pod?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Did you ever write Twilight fan fiction?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I didn't release it, but I doubled in my own Yeah.
I doubled in my own life, my personal life, like
for myself, just for me.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh, so you wrote what did you write? Well?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I just wrote, so I got it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Did you write yourself into the book?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I didn't write myself in. But after fifty Shades Direction
fifty Shades if, Grace.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Started a Twilight fan ficture that took off and it
became this huge, massive thing, and that kind of inspired me.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
So I dabbled, but it didn't take off.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Okay, you didn't you judgment you didn't like. No, I'm
not judging it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'm personally never written fan fiction, but I do it
in my head all the time, so I'm not. I'm
not judging you for that. But you didn't have any
of the because the whole thing of fan fiction is
that people take two characters who wouldn't normally have sex
and make them have sex. That's correct.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Mine wasn't that sexual, but it was very in the
were wolf sort of universe.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, yeah, push so important. So fifty Shades was based
on the dynamic in the Twilight book and kind of
she just wanted that kind of dynamic between the characters.
But Sephanie Meyer also said that she had a dream
of an Edward like figure coming in her room and
watching her sleep. And that's why people have ripped apart
the character of Bella Swan so much over the years,
(05:06):
is that it's the ultimate kind of author insert where
you can just tell the author, which no judgment on
the author has very much written themselves into a scenario
they wish they were living in such a way that
sometimes the character seems thin because it's just the person
who's writing it. Okay, so the book comes out. We're
going a deep cut here because this is like really
the first time, yeah, that we've all experienced the same thing. Yes,
(05:27):
I'm so young, you're so cool in here, or that
we've all experienced the same thing. So, and what was
your first memory of the book or movie? Which one
came first for you? The book?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So i's the correct way I read the books when
they first came out. I was I don't know, I
think I was a bit young for them, but my
mom was very cool and she allowed me to read them.
My mom was also the type of mom that was
like very into kids reading. Like she was like, my
kids have to read. They always have to have a
book on them. It can't just be reading for school.
You always have to read. And I honestly think that's
(05:56):
how I got into this profession. But Twilight was probably
the first book after Harry Potter where she was like, oh,
now you're starting to read stuff that I can also read.
So I read Twilight and she knew about Twilight because
I was all me and my friends could talk about.
I was probably ten years old when the first Twilight
book came out, so she would read every Twilight book.
(06:16):
So after after I read Twilight, she would read it
while I was reading New Moon, so we'd like take turns,
and I honestly think it like solidified my friendship with
my mom. Like that was probably the first time when
I was about ten eleven when I was like, oh,
my mom's my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And then when the movies came out, Oh my god,
this is so wild to me. But the Twilight movie
was the first ever early screening I've ever gone.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Really, that is the power this whole franchise had over people.
So I was I'm obviously a bit older than you,
So I was reading the books through UNI I think
it was, and I really liked them, but that's I
was only reading my romance and fantasy at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And were you reading them because you were like, oh,
I have to read it because everyone's read it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No. I think I picked up really early because that
was my genre yea that I read in. So I
remember reading Twilight like literally when it first came out,
before it blew up, didn't even I didn't even mean
to be a trendsetter. Oh and then I just loved
that kind of stuff. I struggled with it a bit
because I had been raised on a school of like
things like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where I was like, so,
we're just not going to kill any of these vampires,
(07:19):
like she's just she's just gonna date them. I can't
be on board with this, But I remember reading the
books and just thinking, and here's a hill I'll die
on is that Stephaniemi is a good writer. And I
think people think she's not. I think people think she's not.
I've read all her books, not just the Twilight ones.
She has a very intoxicating way of writing, and these books, yes,
the premise is very sexy, but there's a lot of
sexy vampire books out there, and.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
The fact that you can write some like something that's
so appealing to both children and adults is such a
good testament to your writing.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And she taps into this, and I think the reason, again,
there's so many vampire books out there and that don't
all take off like this. She tapped into something that
again is like a bit cringe for her of the
author insert thing, but she tapped into something is that
like everyone wanted to everyone thinks, but no one says
out loud. Is that and the reason why teenagers and
adults like these books so much. It taps into this
(08:08):
moment in like your teenage year, where you're like everything
seems dull and small, like Bella in the beginning of
the book and the movie when we first introduced her
through her voiceover. Through both, it feels like she's sleepwalking
through her own life and this huge, exciting, sexy thing
happens to her, and all of a sudden, this other
worldly creature just thinks that she's the most precious thing
in the world. And I think, secretly, like teenagers and
(08:30):
adults both kind of want that. Yeah, who doesn't tap
into So that was our first takeaways. Minsha, how did
you first read the books?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, you're laughing because you know the mother daughter bond
was also a big part of this series for me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I remember, don't compare my mother daughter to what
you did with your mom's a right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
When you do not. So I remember seeing a.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Girl on the school bus reading Twilight, and she was
a girl I really want to be friends with.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
We became friends. She's she was really cool and I
was like, she's reading this book. I need to read
this book.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So I went home and tell my mom about it,
and my mom was like, I really like eight or nine, and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
She was like, it seems a little adult for you.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
What if we read it together, one page by one page?
So she would read a page out loud, and then
I would read a page out.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Loud, which sounds quite sweet.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But then when you get to Breaking Dawn and you're
like fourteen and they're like having sex on their honeymoon, just.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Got bruises all over a body, and.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He's like, I don't want to do it, I'll break
you like being weird to read your mom, I'm like,
could we stop this tradition now?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I never thought about you because when you say it
sounds a bit sweet to start off with, no, it doesn't.
Just so you know, like I was nine, I read
I did that with my mom as a kid too,
Like she would read a page, I would do it,
read a page. But we did that with the Little
House on the Prairie. That's the same rank. That's the
correct book to do that. With no shade to your mother.
I'm sure she's lovely, but I just at what's what
(09:51):
stage was it was in Breaking Dawn that you were like, hey, mom,
let's not read these sex scenes out loud to each other.
Maybe we'll just go read them separately. And that's fine.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well in Eclipse when Bella first tries to have sex
with Edward, but.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
He's like, I don't want to steal your virtue. Yeah,
I was a bit like, oh, it's getting.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Like a bit weird, like maybe we could just read
them separately, and she was like, oh no, but we've
like started them together.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I feel like we should see it through.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And then I remember her saying at one point they're
married people having sex.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
What's the issue anyway? Which is so fair. It's just
good time. I want to read with your mum. Anyway.
It's more again like in all like the sexy makeout
scenes and stuff before that. But anyway, everyone has their
own journey. So the movie comes out in two thousand
and eight and is a huge success in sports, a
big franchise, which, again, not every teen book does that.
(10:37):
A lot of teen books come out with a huge
fan base. Mortal Instruments comes to mind, and they falter.
This one did. Something interesting is that it wasn't first
made as a blockbuster. It was made as a smaller
indie film, and Catherine Hardwick was the director, and she
had come off really kind of more gritty, prestige independent
movies like Thirteen, and she tried to make Twilight not
(10:59):
as a teen fantasy, not as a romance, as more
of a kind of dark, artsy Yeah, very artistic, artsy,
gritty kind of movie, which to be Yeah, I actually
think works really well. It's very atmospheric.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, but it was just like one of those things
where there's no stopping the teenage girls. Yeah, like they
knew they were going to get a movie, and they
knew they were going to watch it and love it.
And it's so funny when I rewatch Twilight now as
an adult, I imagine myself as watching it as a kid.
I would have been twelve years old when it came out,
I think, and I was like this, there's no way
(11:33):
you would have liked a movie like that ever at
that age.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Really.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, it's just such funny, Like the scenes are just
so now, they're like mimable, Yeah, whereas like in the moment,
I was like this is so.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Deep and nazi.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh yeah maybe, I mean, and I felt like an
adult watching it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, because it does shy away from any of like this,
and I think it becomes as the movie goes along,
it becomes more like blookbustery, it becomes more like more
young adult, it becomes glossier. Yeah, but in that first one,
you it does feel like you're you're it's like almost
set in the same world as Thirteen, which have you
guys seen that movie? Holy hell, yeah, yeah that is gritty. Yeah,
it's the same time. And that's why Nicky Reid was
(12:11):
cast as Rosalie, which I know people really didn't like
her casting, and part of me does think like she
does feel out of place a little bit for that character.
But she started thirteen and she also co wrote it
with Catherine Hardwick. I remember, So that was Katherine Hardwick
wanting to work with an actress that she had a
really good relationship with and she thought was really talented
and so put her in that character.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And yeah, but it works for like the other generation
because that's the first time I saw Nicky read yeah
in movie. So in my head, I'm like, oh my god,
she's such a bad like she's always going to be
in that badass role.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Really, I was just like, oh my god, that was my.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Introduction to her.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I was like, that's Sadie from the oc Yese.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's so weird, and like now she just has these
two altera.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's interesting because when Stephanie Meyer wrote the book, she
and it became really successful. As she was writing a sequel,
she was like, she knew it was going to be
a movie, and she knew exactly who she wanted to play,
Edward Cullen. Do you know this Henry Cavill. Henry Cavill.
There's a whole blog post that she wrote in two
thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Was Henry Cavill. I probably would have been team Edwood
but old.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
By the time they made the movie, that was the
general consensus. But I would have.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thought, like some black curse on him.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I was as because he's so Henry Cavill was also
so aware that he was nearly Edward Cullen, because he
has said it interviews that he knew that Stephanie Meyer
was desperate for him to be Edward Cullen, but he
said like, at the end of the day, it wasn't
her choice. And then who she wanted for Bella. I
mean everyone auditioned for Bella. Lily Collins Michelle Chatchenberg. Jennifer
(13:35):
Lawrence went in and said she didn't understand what she
was auditioning for. She's like, I just wanted to a
room and they hand me a piece of paper and
they were like act monkey act, and she walked out
beying like I don't know what the hell that was
not doing that movie. And then she saw at the
cinema and she was like, oh, okay, I think, but
Stephanie Meyer really wanted Emily Browning, which I thought her cavalty.
Oh my, somewhere in an alternate I want that movie.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
What's his name from Team wolfe?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Wait? Tyler Posey?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I think Taylor Lorn is perfect.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, but Tyler Posey had no way. Did Team Wolf
come after?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, so then he got his Wolf.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Experience of Wolf experience. Yeah, I think maybe he auditioned for it.
I think they were the ones that she wanted for
those particular roles. But it's interesting because they auditioned so
many people for Bella and Edward because of course the
whole thing was going to hinge on that. Robert Pattinson
had been in Harry.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Potter movies in that state, Cedric Diggery, yes, and then
he was sp Yeah, boilers.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
That's actually how they came across him. They were looking
at people from the Harry Potter world who.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
They bring over.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Which is a good strategy because like, I feel like
they were the blueprint yeah, for like both children but
also being able to go with your parents and your
parents also enjoying the movies that were Harry Potter and
the book series that came before it, like and then
having that same fan based consistently throughout each movie. I
feel like that's such a good blueprint.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, or Twilight exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And Christian Schwart had been a child actor, very successful,
but she obviously didn't have a huge fan base, Like
she wasn't coming into it as big as some of
these other actresses. But Catherine, I don't know, you love
this story, Minisha, You're creepy.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Girl the bedroom story.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah yeah, okay, So Catherine Hardwick also she just should
have made all the movies because that woman is like
a method filmmaker. So she got Kristen Stewart and Rob
Pattinson to come to her house to film one of
the essentially film the chemistry tests for Twilight, and she
got them to a scene and then she got them
to make out on her bed and she was filming
(15:30):
them with like a little can carder and shit, it
would be allowed.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Now he was seen on the bed, can't stop himself
and then.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
He's like still like throws himself back and wall and
she said, Robert, she said their chemistry was undeniable, which
is obviously why they went on to date for many years.
Their chemistry was undereniable. They got so into like pashing
and kissing and all this sort of stuff on her
bed in her home while she's filming them for a
chemistry test that she said Rob Pattinson took it too
(15:58):
far and she also had to pull him back and
he ended up tumbling off the bed.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Palpable chemistry. Clearly they can hold. I love this story
so much.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I am member watching the interview or whoever it was
that she said that, and I was like, wow, like
to have chemistry like that that cuts through the room
like a knife.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But then it is creepy that it's in her house.
I do you agree for a man was doing it?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I love that to your reaction, my reactions like I
feel unsafe.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
After get me Stewart said to her, I will do
this movie and it has to be Robert Pattinson. No
one else after that, after the bed scene.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, I'm sure anyone would say that, Yeah, this
was that good. I was like, I'll take this job.
But it has to be Robert Patterson.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, the man who just flung me off the bed
in my director's home.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I'm still sad about Henry Calvilter.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He might have fallen off the bed.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I feel like he'd be much more composed.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And he thinks about it all the time, just so
you know, especiallycause he just lost his job on the Witcher,
lost his job, lost his job as Superman.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And then lost his job on the Witcher.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh there's a curse on that man, on that handsome, white,
successful rich man. So to the movie. Now we've got
this set up.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, to the movie.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So we it starts off with, actually, it starts off
with a very artistic scene of a deer being killed
in the woods.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Beautiful imagery, beautiful monologue, beautiful monlog with Christian Stuwitt's voice.
A lot of people have said the first page of
Twilight's one of the best opening pages in a lot
of books that have come out in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Actually night for a drama recital.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Did you have monologue?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Okay, I never put much thought into how I would die.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But you're like white.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I did not expect you.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
To be like, No, the damion place, it's someone I love,
seems like a good way to go.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, that's what she said.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Anyway, she said that as a seventeen year old. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, And then we have the deer being killed, and
then it flips to Bellow, who is a young teenage
girl who is moving away from Phoenix, Arizona, yep, because
her mother has married a football player.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And they want to go to honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, but they're going to go off on the road
because that's his job. Yeah yeah, and have some married time.
And so she moves to Hawks with her dad, Charlie,
who you're a bit of a fan.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Of guys as an adult woman, I think it's safe
to say that Charlie is a heart throb.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Hot with his mustache and here's like police get up.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, and he's gruff, but like really caring, like when
he just goes in the car and yeah, he gets
her car, then you just change the tires. That being
Asset's away. She's never been taken care of before.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh my god, it comes in old gloom. I mean,
I hate the cold, I hate rain, and yet you
brought your little cactus. Obviously that's not gonna live here.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
It's gonna die.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
In two seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Am I fawning over the dad? Probably for different reasons.
I was like, Oh, maybe it's nice to have a dad,
and you're like, I want to date him.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Lots of issues being.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Worked out on this pod. We love how pop culture
shines the mirror back to ourselves. So this is actually
when she gets the car. That's her first meeting with
Jacob played by Taylor Lautner, who was only ever supposed
to be in one Twilight movie, just the first one,
and then they were planning to read so you only
had his contract was to one movie. And then they said,
because the character and the books go through such a
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big transformation, you're playing the little, weedy, young version of
the character, and then when he goes through his werewolf transformation,
he becomes really sexy, we're going to recast.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And Tailoran was like, not my watch.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, actually Kristen Stewart was like, not on my watch.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
She fought for him to stay she might as well
direct the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
She was like, I want that boy.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And that boy and that boy, and that she's just
picking all the boys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
So Taylor Lawner then had.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
To when we forgot that Jacob also had made the
engine in her car.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
He's a handy Yeah, he remakes the engine. Yeah, and
he shows her how to drive the car.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, your team Edwater, team Jacob.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
We're doing this right now.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
We have to so complicated, No, just pick one.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
At the initial time, I was team Jacob because I
think I was a little superficial back then and I
was just.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Like, ooh, tan Abs, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
But then as I've matured as an adult, I think
from an intellectual standpoint and a financial standpoint, because.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'm not asking if your team Jacob or Edward. As
an adult a financial standpoint also, it was like, I
literally just want a name.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
My mind is with Edward, but my body's with Jacob.
Can I say that.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Just so you know that's not just the worst thing
you've ever said?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, now I actually do need the explanation.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is the worst thing of human beings ever said.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But just think my bodies with Jacob. Think about the art,
the music, Edward. He plays piano.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
He's probably invested in a lot of stocks over the
century plus that he's been alive, all the things he
could teach you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, the only things I've invested in is graduation caps,
which don't retail for grades.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Just keep going. Looked it up.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
But I think that Jacob is just more of a visceral,
like he's hot wolf protect me.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I'll leave it there, marry my daughter.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I actually don't hate that plot point as much as
some others, but that's breaking.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Dawns, so I'll leave it me too.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay, anyway, what do you well? I still don't really
know what my nature is.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's not half. She said. Her mind is Edward, but
her body.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Was team because I am a vain person. Yeah, I
was team Edward first, maybe team Jacob for the rest.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Wait, how does that make you? He's so like, he's
not as hot as Jacob in it physically.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
That's why it makes me vain? No, because I wasn't
team Jacob in the first movie, and then when he
gets hot in Your Moon, I was team Jacob.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I think it was the hair. When he cut his hair,
I was like, I'm all in, You're all in, all in?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You're Edward for sure?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Are you not?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Can I say your shack boy?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Jacob is so different to your type, though, is he?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah? Okay, no no?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
And you like you like smart guys.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I don't know where you picked that up from. All
my crush is a Pacey from Dawson's Creek, Dean from Supernatural,
and Daryl from the Walking Day. None of those men
have ever read a book.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I still think those men aligned more with Edward than Jacob.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, here's the thing about Edward is, like the initial
movie and book, I'm just like, Yeah, I'm into this
brooding vampire. Except when he's trying not to smell her.
That's the worst looking Mand's ever had on his face.
It's so embarrassing for him.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But I just found him quite creepy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
As the books were along and I was actually reading
Breaking Dawn, I was like flipping the pages really fast
because I was.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like, don't marry this creepy man.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I really wanted her to like run away with Jacob
and I I knew it wasn't gonna happen, but I
also just didn't want them to be together. I find
Edward controlling in an intense way, and has that man
ever said an interesting word. He's got no charisma, he's
got no risk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I feel like he gave so many young girls such
big complexes about what their dating life's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah. Yeah. I think people like the idea of this powerful,
as I said, this powerful creature loving you so much
and like being obsessed with being obsessed with you, and
like watching over when you sleep. I don't find that
creepy at all. I find that lovely actually, and like
all this kind of protecting you. But then the further
the relationship they such to fall in love. It's the
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first time I'm like, there's no chemistry between these book characters,
which never happens. Yeah. Yeah, it's all physical, there's no
there's no chemistry between them. Do you agree?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Also, I think what didn't help in the movie was
that they took out a lot of the dialogue and
they just played music over it and they sat in
a tree.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There's a lot of music.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, And so I think that also didn't help.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Monkey Do you know that I don't want a monkey man?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Thet me go, do you know what Ruins is to me?
Is that when they were doing all those like very
physical scenes and you're supposed to see Robin Pattinson's Edward
Cullen be like lifting her up and rescue her and
dropping her from like and jumping with her and like
he's so physical and protective and it's love that. And
like when they were doing those scenes, poor Rob Pattinson,
who also didn't have a license at the time, so
every time you see him driving, they're just like having
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to tow the car's.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Driving in like his little Volvo drive.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's got a license to the talk. And then he's like, yeah,
I tore my glute really bad when we were doing
the action scenes, so I couldn't do them anymore. I
was like, oh god, Jacob, dude, I'm trying so hard
to have a crush on you, but you're stopping me at.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Every time Taylor Lorna is in the brace like lifting
way smashing me, Patty lifting the truck, He's like, when's imaga?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So he went with we're just not saying on track
with this. So he went off and bogked up and
when he came back to said or bogged up Christians,
she said that she started crying because she was so
proud that he had done it and tried as well.
For anyway, we haven't even got to her meeting Edward.
Then she goes to the high school.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes, and there's one seat available in the science lab. Yes,
and it's next to him, and she so she walks
into the classroom and then she happens to stand in
front of the one fan in the classroom and the
hair goes wash, wish, wish, and then you see the
smell send Edward and Edward looks like he's about to ship.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's not attractive, it's not attractain.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That is the worst look an actor has ever had
on their face.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh my god, I know he regrets that, trying.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So hard to be in love with this man he's
not letting me.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, gave creepy vibes.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They also in the movie cut one of my favorite moments.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
From the book, which is also science lab related, which
is with the needles and the blood and how her
whole fear of blood and then she faints and he
like takes care of her, which I thought was the
pinnacle of hotness.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And they took her and they took it out and
they replaced it with when he goes away for a
bit because he had to feed and come back with
this hazel eyes and then he's like hello.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, he's like and he's the only person.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Are you enjoying this rain?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
It's literally a I.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And then we get our introduction to the Culen siblings.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
That introduction when they all come into the cafe where
they all glide in.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You see them outside and they're like on this like
moving treadmill thing. It looks like they're not walking because
they're just gliding. Yeah, and they all glide and arm
in arm, and then you find out that they're all siblings.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But they're also in taking us, which I agree with.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Anna Kendrick, Anna Kendrick who we will just call her
Anna Kendrick as we go through. She's so good in
this movie. She had everyone else talks about how horrible
it was being in that rainsoaked place so long, such
long hours, and she was like, I would fly and
do once scene. Flower had a great time. She forgot
she was in the movies for a while. People talked
about Twilight. She's like, yeah, Twilight. Then she's like, I
was in that I forgot, And she's so good as
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that character. I want to Anna Kendrick. Yeah, she's just
Ana Kendrick. She's like, you know what, those siblings are
having sex and that's wet and they live together. That's
fair enough.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It is true.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And when they all walk in in that iconic sibling scene.
Really important factor note is that Emmett or Kellen Lut's
the guy who plays him.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, so the hottest one.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It depends what you No, we love a dumb beefcake.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
He's the hottest one.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He's a Travis Kelcey anyway, he is a Travis Kelcey.
He is holding this bag of eggs in that scene
and they're just like twelve, like hard boiled eggs or
six or twelve, but yeah, how many? And it's just
because the actor brought that as lunch and it just
found its way into the scene. And I just always
think that's so weird that he's just holding a back
of eggs and.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He's swinging them as he walks.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
He is trying to explain to the humans why his
physique was like that. He's like, look the eggs I eat.
That explains the muscle.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That actually makes sense. And there's someone who's dated a
bodybuilder that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, it's more than I promise you it's not a
fo the supermodel who's dated a body yeah, as someone
who's also been in love with a hundred yeard fan pire.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Can I just say so? Then we get I'm really
trying to move this a long. Sorry, I know obviously
this could be a fifth In our podcast, Bella is
all like, I'm going to confront Edward because she's saying
that he's rude to her. But I think the subtext
is he she thinks he thinks she smells bad because
every time in the movie when she keeps seeing him,
she keeps smelling her own hair.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, and you know what, maybe she does smell bad.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And then well, that's that's what I don't when I
was a kid, you do.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
It turns out she just smells too good.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
She smells too good, too good.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But also he's also freaking out because he can't read
her mind. Yes, and she's the only person who can't read.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
What I mean, wow, And she's like a tasty, wicked
wing to him.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What would be your food version of Bella?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Come on? Only like a wicked wings up there something?
So I mean, I guess you'd almost want it to
be like really sweet or maybe something delicious.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It has to be something that you say no to
if you get off it and fleshy like the world.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait, stop, it doesn't have to be flesh.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I'm so.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I just mean, like, if someone were to offer you
this food you can't like physically can't say no to.
I'm not like making you choose different meats.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I'm like, oh, my teeth's sinking into a succulent piece
of chicken.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Like, I get it. Anyway, No, you to get to
whlets maybe like the like the world's crispiest, perfect French
fry with like a troll dress and it's steaming hot
and you have to bite into it. Oh my god,
that's what I hope. I would smell like to a vampire.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And then you're in love with it and you can't
eat it.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, imagine being in love with the French fry and
you can't eat it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That would be really hard.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I understand, Edward, now, Yeah, me too, get it. Well,
Sephanie ma is working on levels that we can't even understand.
So then we have what I think is the hottest
scene in the entire movie. You guys, when she's in
the car park and Bella. The car's coming towards her,
and Edward jumps in and he goes and stops it
with his hand, and.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Then he runs away. And then he runs away, and
then the guy driving was like, Bella, Oh my god,
how did you do that?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He keeps saying, and he's like so sort of sorry.
I don't know how you did that, but I'm so sorry.
And he follows into the hospitality keeps being.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Like and then Charlie just like closes the curtain.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Charlie's regretting everything in his life right now.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And then we're also introduced to Edward's dad, Carlisle.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Okay, when I.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Was reading the books as a kid, I thought his
name was Callisslie. I called him Callisslie until I watched
the movie and I was like, who's Carlos And I was.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Like, that's so the biggest jump scare of my life.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
As a child, Like I don't know that man, Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Wow, And like I was so certain his name was
Callislie that in my head, I was like, Oh, they
changed it to Carlisle so we could say it better.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
No, No, that's how you say cars is a unique spelling.
And he, of course is played by Peter Fassinelli, who
I think originally auditioned for Charlie and then ended up
getting Carlisle, which I think is the better role. Married
to Jenny Garth from Beverly Hills nine O two one O,
who played Kelly for many years. So he was in
a Hollywood power couple for many many years.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
NEPO husband.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Sure. I think he was an active first, but okay,
we'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And he was a vampire first. So he's the one
who started the Carlor.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Clan, yes, and he's the one who doesn't let any
of them feast on the flesh of human.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, the vegetarians, yes, so good man. So we after
the car scene, Bella starts getting suspicious of Edward. She
meets up with Jacob. They kind of chat, they go,
I think they go to a beach, right, And she
invites Edward to the beach and he doesn't turn up
and put baby the best fly Okay, that's the push baby,
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And then she feels rejected and then some of Jacob's
friends say the Colins don't come here, and then she
was like, Jacob, what do they mean by that? He's like, oh,
you heard that, did you?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
The tension. The tension build is incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's like, all that's right, right, you pick that up,
didn't you?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Sorry? It was a subtle of the ton of bricks.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
The colins don't come here. The colins don't come here.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And she's like, what do you mean by that? He's like, oh,
you heard that. She's like, oh no, I would never
ask any follow up questions that such a declaration.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And then we learn later that, like Jacob's going through
some things. I feel like that can be the kind
of how we go through our menstrual cycle. That's kind
of what Jacob was going through in the first Twilight
Movie's a heel face is a teal face, Yeah, because
he's like becoming a were wolf and he's getting moody
and angry. I don't know why I'm something getting so strong.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, it's because the Culen family in the area is
making the were wolves.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, more of them turn right, Yeah, a lot of
there's a lot more well were wolves than they used
to be, and that's because of were wolves don't like vampires, viceversa.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And then Bella kind we're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
A recap of the other ones. That's so much more
interesting of what the other want is, so let us
know if you want the other movies, because this one's
going so well.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I mean, this is going off the rails. But Okay.
Then Bella discovers through her own research that Edward is
a vampire. And to that, I say, is she the
only person forked with the computer? Like she literally saw that.
She like, arrived in town, looked at this weird man
who doesn't go out in the sun. I was like, oh,
Google's for like five seconds and it's like, oh, he's
a vampire. Why didnt anyone else do that?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
No, because what triggered her is when she went to
get that book from that shop. Yeah, and then I
think it had some words in there that She then
googled the book and then she figured out vampire lot
is also hard at the most dodgiest website. I'm like,
you're getting a virus girl anything. Charlie was like, why
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Bella just like Edward ab.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
And what would kill me? And then they have the
whole scen where they go to the other town and
he saves her and that's when they go and have
mushroom ravioli, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And she went home and googled even more and she
was like, will my vampire boyfriend eat me? And it
said probably probably to say, you're on.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Reddit just like vampire human relationship.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
What would a chat?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Well, yeah, how would she ask GPT, She'll be like
vampire human future question.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Mark, please wait for more and then be like can
we have sex? Can we kiss? Will he kill me?
Will his family kill me? Well? I kill him if
I stabbing through the heart with some wood.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Oh my god TBC.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, hard to say.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
So then after that they decided they're together pretty quickly.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It goes from like, real dating isn't like this, You
don't go from zero to one hundred and come out
a bit dinner with the vampire family and they go
off into the little foresty bit near the school and
then she says, well, he says the iconic so the
lion fell in love with the lamb and she says,
what a stupid lamb And he says, what a sick
masochistic lion.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And then there's vibes.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh, it's like I'm watching it, are you?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Are you like watching that movie in your head while
we're doing this.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, it's very vivid for me right now.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
But I've found really funny as a kid watching this
is he's standing at like the entry of the forest
and she's like parked a car, and she doesn't say
anything to him. She just walks straight past him, and
he's following her, and then she just starts talking and
I was like, she doesn't even know he's behind her.
What is she doing this full monologue and not there
like she didn't ask him to follow her. Well, I mean,
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so maybe she's got a six times too.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Maybe Well, we do find that she has a dormant superpower,
that's why she becomes a shield. But anyway, let's give
me a head like five movies. So they get together,
they kiss a lot, cute, and then their biggest, their
biggest challenge happens, which is that Bella has to go
to the colored house.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Can I say, we see him glow, we see him
sparkle in the sun. Yah, but like he makes her
walk up the whole mountain to get to the sun,
Like why did you just walk back out of the forest.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Okay, you've got a real thing about it, just like
incidental exercise.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I do.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I feel like this gets brought up a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
If what are the facts, You're like, I would fall
out of love with that man if he made me
walk up a hill, and god.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
If a man makes me walk up a hill, I'm done.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, because later on Jacob carries her upper hill and
that's the sexiest scene the whole thing. Anyway, Again, we
move on, so then she has to meet the Color family.
Can kind of say the best thing about the Twilight
Universe is when and which I wish she'd gone riten
more of is Stephanie Meyer. This law that she creates
around all these different vampires and all their origin stories
and how they came to be and how they live
and like the Vulture and their rules and everything. Every time.
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Like That's why I think I love the later books,
because I'm like, I don't really care about Edward and
Bella as much and they're creepy offspring baby. I more
care about this intense vampire world and all these people
in it. So then we get to the Color House
and they're playing Italian music there.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And they're cooking in the kitchen for the first time. Yeah,
even though she knew they don't eat, so she said,
I had lunch before. And then Rosalie gets really angry
and smashes the salad that looks shit anyway, fair enough,
but they don't have to cook. They don't eat.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
This is also where they tried to bring some like
kind of quippy humor into it, which fills out of
place with this kind of moody, realistic movie that Catherine
Hardbook was trying to make. Is that this is when
they start trying to make it more of like a
poppy kind of teen movie, where they're just like, we're
making Italian how many she likes to tell? Well, her
name's Bella And every in the movie was like ha ha.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And I was like, but I like how they kept
Emmett kind of funny throughout the whole.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, well that was lare in line with his personality.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, Like to Alice, she's got that quirky you know,
quirky girl. She's a little bit funny.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
She's a bit weird. Okay, she's meant to be.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's really weird Jasper.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And he's really struggling not to eat her like that.
Traffle fry is real for him.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
So it's her birthday, right, so they all get her gift?
Or am I thinking of a different dinner party?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You're thinking of different This is not what he's back
the second movie and from them we sort of really
kind of see them fall in love to him extent.
We still we see Charlie have to deal with the
situation when Edward comes over and he pulls his gun off.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, he's the coolest dad.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You're obsessed with Charlie so much.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I needed more airtime.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
That's my one. Yeah, exactly. Well, he became such a
fan favorite. There's all these photo that all these videos
from inside, like the midnight screenings of the last movie,
and how they have all their pictures, can't the end
and like they have this extended credits because it's the
end of this huge blockbuster franchise and all the biggest
cheers for Charlie's loving him. And then we come to
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I'm gonna let a lemon say one of your favorite
scenes and maybe one of yours. Two more on, actually
yours your favorite ones of the sex scenes, so you
deal with that in your own time. But there's no
sex scene in this movie sexually charged scene.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I meant to say, is your favorite scene where he's
like watching her in bed.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'm mean, I do like the kissing in the bed scene.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But anyway, the very small scene is wonderful, and the
music by music. It was really important Stephanie Meyer to
have songs by music in her movie because she's a
huge fan and I just think super Massive black Hole
just makes that scene.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't mind that music, but I find the rest
of the music in the movie really weird, really like
especially the music.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
The music's great.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
The music when they meet each other for the first
time in that lab, it's like a full electric guitar
just playing.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
She was trying something, Okay, it was crazy to be
a female filmmaker take a chance and try and make He.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Looks like it's about to shoo himself and like, do.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
There's also two Robert Pattinson so for the movie, the
one where they're in the restaurant and also the one
where later on he's trying really hard not to kill
her and eat all of her.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
But he's a serious musician.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Two of his songs his own songs, and he sings them.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, he sings yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
The one where he's like, no, no, that's him.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, that's him. He's a musician. Don't you know anything
about him? That's why he and Sticky Waterhouse for in
Love because they're both at the end of the day,
broody artistic musicians.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh my god, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Are you gonna go listen to all of his music now?
So we have the baseball says, I think where we
are and I think it's safe to say that even
though this just looks like it's a.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Perfect weather for baseball.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, it's because the lightning is It is actually a
fun detail. The lightning storm is happening, so that means
that they can make as much noise as they want
and the town would just think it's a thunderclub.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, and you know what fair, But it was like
what I really wanted as a kid. I didn't really
understand that scene. Really, I really didn't under it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Was trying to show them because the rest of the
time they're pretending to be humans. So they are so
kind of reserved with like their movements and what they say.
And you're meant to see them, you meant yeah, you
meant no, no, not a family. You meant to see
them look like other worldly creatures, because that's what they are.
It's they're letting loose. They're letting loose, and so that's
why they're movements. So they sped them up with the running.
(39:24):
They're doing stunts.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
They like yeah they oh my god, the kids they.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Have cranes pulling them up. It's like one of the
most stunt heavy scenes because they're trying to show like,
this is how these mythical creatures would move were not
pretending to be humans.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And it just ends up looking a little bit weird,
but it's also an iconic scene.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Oh my god. As a kid, I was like, oh
my god, I want to do.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
That a vampire baseball league. It's all.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I think that scene cemented in every person's mind like
you should be a vampire.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Absolutely. It made me want it.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Real, some of the real sexy ones later on, more
so than I could play baseball real good. Anyway, Then
we have the introduction of some very important characters and
they also glide in and this is I love this scene,
any of it. This is where Catherine Hardwick's filmmaking just
absolutely shiny through. Is that you have these three nomadic
vampires come through who have kind of formed a family, Laurent,
(40:16):
James and Victoria. And the way they kind of almost
appear on the field and the camera stands on them
and like the music stops, and you have this real
even though it's a teen love stories, there's no real
stakes to it. You have this real sense of fear
about these evil creatures appearing, which I loved. I'm like, yes,
evil vampires, this is all I've been waiting for this
whole movie.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Especially because they're like, get behind me, better take your
hair down, it'll mask the scent.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Oh, you guys are really weird with this movie. I
find I want to sho more at these characters because
we obviously have Laurent who is kind of very loyal
to the Colins but also is not afraid to stab
a human's neck real quick. And they're not a vegetarian.
You know, he's not a vegetarian. None of them are,
and that their lives. The problem is that Victoria is
a bloodthirsty vampire desperately in love with her mate James.
(41:02):
I love that they mate for life, is like little
bloodsuck penguins who mate for life. And then James, of
course is a tracker and once he locks onto a
particular stent, he can't ever let it go.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Which is weird as a tracker, Like it took him
a while.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I think he did okay. He followed her for a while.
He was up against indefense of James, the human killer
he had. He was up against the whole Culin family
trying to thwart him from finding Bella, and he does
find her. Also, I actually love that James is played
by cam gitch Dante, who was Volcek in the OC.
It comes back to the OC.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And he's in burlesque.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yes, so importantly, but he's like the lead.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Sexy man but with not long hair, so you might
be confused. Oh my god, he is.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
But more importantly, he had come. He had come to
play this evil character trying to kill Bella off the
back of playing an evil character in the OC where
he did kill Marissa Cooper was gonna die? Well, no,
I read the book, so what's gonna happen? But I'm
just saying, this is this sexy teen heart throbs.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
All they can do is kill you.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Trying to kill young teen heroines. That's his stick.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
So at first they were like, we're just playing baseball,
do you guys want to play?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
And then they did.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Okay, but then the wind came and you see Bella's
hair move, and then Jame goes, I see you.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Brought a snack. I love that line.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
And then they all go the cats and then it's
on and then he checked, and I think.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
That's the first look we see of like the vampires
like looking feral, where they like get into their full
vampire moment. And even Bella's like.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Public shit, I don't want to be here anything.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Ill bye, and it it gets.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Really dark, which means then that the Colin family has
Chinky Bella safe. Now. Bella, in her defense, she's not
registering the severitance situation because she's just like, yeah, that's
one vampire, but there's so many of you, and shouldn't
we just stay here and it'll be fine. And she
obviously wants to stay with Edward, which is fair enough.
And then they make the decision that Edward has to
(43:07):
go one way. The Columns will try and track her down,
and Jasper and Alice will take Bella to a safe
house and keep her safe.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And she screws it all up, does she though?
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yes, oh, come on, now, you wouldn't for she thought
her mother, So they obviously go away. He tracks her
and then he tricks her into thinking that he has
kidnapped her mother and is holding her in a dance
studio and Bella goes to save her mom, which fair enough.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay, look, okay, I love my mom.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
But you loved it more after Twilight.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Obviously not but okay, out of all the moms to
do that for Bella, your mom ditched you for a
man to go on a honeymoon and send you to
Colia has rainy Washington with your little cactus.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
She doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Let her die, let her she die, just let her die.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Okay, doesn't you ruined for everyone?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
And then everyone's like, Bella, you to stay rags, Bella,
And when find.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Someone else, any other really completely safe? He couldn't find you.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Literally, Well, there's two of us me Alice who can
see into the future, Jasper who bit we willing.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
To do water takes. We just loved the opportunity to
kill someone.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, and he's like kind of new Wish, so he's
a bit more stronger than the rest of him.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yes, Bella, she makes a mistake by going to like
not let her mother die. She gets to the dance
studio and.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Then James is like, let me film.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, and he really played that weird mirror game. There's
no sexual tension.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
What will with the video.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I don't know, is he if he went to her
mum's house to get like the footage of her mom,
because we find out it's not her mom. It's like
camcordter finished and he played for her to trick her.
Wouldn't it been easier to be like, meet me at
your mom's house because it's already there.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
He wanted the theatrics of the dance studio with the
mirror of use the Hunter, and also, so we know
he's from Pearlers, he wants to put on a show.
Can kind of say James deserves to kill Bella because
he put in the work, He played the long game,
he put in the work. He wasn't sloppy, and he
really he should have. I'm just saying he should have
(45:20):
been successful.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Okay, but then, but then because he was too busy
for making a movie feature film a.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Classic villain thing where the villain spends way too long monologue. Yeah,
he's like, I waited for you, Yeah, life, he's been
way too long monologue.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I've been waiting for you for the last thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And then they end up failing because they spent too
long explaining their evil plan. That's what James does.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
And then Edward comes to the rescue and they have
a fight a vampire off if you were, and the
rest of them slowly get there in their own time.
But then Bella gets pushed into the glass and then
falls down, and then James reaches for her arms and
bit bites it. So he bites an arm.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
And in this world, so every vampire universe has its
own rules of how you become a vampire, like in
a lot of different vampire law and this is the
from the original Dracula book, is like the vampire has
to drink from you, and then you have to drink
from them, and then your body has to die, and
then you have to be reborn as a vampire. That's
just vampire fact from the origin story from Transylvania, which
(46:22):
Emily has learned in the last year is a real place.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
You can call after that, we're not even talking about that.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Or roads lead back to that. In this particular universe,
vampirism happens via the venom that all vampires have coated
over their teeth. So anyone who is bitten, no matter
who drinks blood or who does what, as soon as
you're bitten, you start turning into a vampire, which is
also the Lauren Sinners coming full of this l except Sinners.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's like, you can literally maul the person and you
will still be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, well know that it has to be a biten sinner.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
So James bites Bella. They defeat James, but Bella is
like now turning right.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
So Carla is like, Edward, you have to do it
because I'll kill her if I try to suck the
venom man. So it was like, I've got this, sucks,
starts sucking in the vendom and then Carl's like, I
think you got it, you got it, Edward stop, winded
bout Edward stop, and then her like I start rolling.
That scared me so much as a kid.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, I was like, Edward stop. Do you know Kristin Stewart,
Everyone's like, oh, she looks so gross in that scene.
She looks ugly, and there's a lot of there was
a lot of like kind of pushback at the time
that this actress didn't look beautiful in this moment. I
was like, she's literally dying. Give her a break, Kristian
Suward's not there to be pretty. She's very much said,
she's a serious actress. She was playing the part of
a woman who was dying horrible death.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
And then the screen goes to black and we're like,
did Edward stop? What happened? And then the next scene
is like she's in hospital. She's in a hospital bed,
and she wakes up and Edward's sleeping on the couch
even though rampires, I'm in to sleep. So I don't
know what he was doing there. Was he pretending to sleep?
Speaker 4 (47:55):
He was just resting his eyes mm sounds fake sounds performative, okay,
performan sleep.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I think he was just nervous to see her, so
he was like, I'm gonna pretend to be asleep. Renee
comes to hospital to see Bella, her daughter, so she
obviously cut her honey in short, I'm sure she was
very upset about that.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
She's like, oh, the girl got to my daughter. She
only died. That's I guess.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I'm sorry. I have to go back to Washington. Yeah,
last place I want to be. And then she's like,
we bought a new house and there's new other place.
Come live with us. I want you to live with us.
And then Edward's still sleeping on the couch.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Well, yeah, because he's pretending to be asleep so that
Renee and Bella can have their private moment.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Okay, I wouldn't. I would have been wide awake.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
And Bella has broken legs and broken limbs and everything
from the throw.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
So yeah, she's got a moon boot on.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah. Yeah, so she's in a bad spot. And that's
when she Edward like wants to not be with her
anymore pretty much bright because she's so badly hurt, and
she was like, no, I want to be with you anyway.
And then they go to prom and they have this
there's almost this moment that Edward is kind of like
leaning Bella down he and she thinks that he's going
because she's already made the decision that she wants to
be a vampire.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, which I even Jacob tried to interject he also
came to prom, yeah yeah, and he was like dump
him and she was like no, and then Jacob's like
all right, and then they lives.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
She's talking a big game for a woman who's wearing
a gross prom.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Dress with a cardigan.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Your boyfriend really killed you and that too.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah. I was more upset with the car, but I liked.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I liked how they get in and they're like, we're
too cool for this, Let's go outside. Yeah, and then
they had that like slow dance moment outside, which is
also similar to Cinderella story, which is also similar to
cas Burn.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Wendy Yeah, and also the original Castle Love story. That's
the thing. At the end of the day. I think
Catherine Hardwick was trying to make this like indie drama,
and she did to an extent, but at the end
of the day, it is still a teen romance and
that's why it had to finish at prom with them
having a dance and having this moment and Edward pretending
to bite her neck colorious, and then her like accepting
(49:50):
death in that moment even though she's seventeen. There's no
idea what's happening. And then Edward's saying that he wasn't
going to bite her, but they were going to continue
to be together.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Well a little tease.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, it's very exciting, and then the stakes are so
high because then we cut to Victoria right, Yeah, she's
the last thing we see with her iconic red hair,
and then that actress was replaced by Bryce Stellis Howard
brutal movies are brutal. Bryce how she was great. But
they then once the movie blew up in such a
huge way, then all of a sudden, they're like, what,
we have a bigger budget, We're gonna hire bigger actors,
(50:20):
We're gonna have bigger sets. And that's when it became
this whole, big, glossy franchise and people were replaced. But yeah, Twilight,
what a what a trip down memory line?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I want to watch it again, even though I just
watched it last week.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
There's never enough. There's never enough, never enough, Twilight.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
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your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney can I'm
and Vnet and boy do we have a special episode
for you today. I nearly said an episode you want
to sink your teeth into, and I was like, don't
be that lame.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That quick, No, no, no, I think you can be that
lame that quick.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I think that's what we're here for, because this is
our brutally honest review of Twilight.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You're impossibly fast and strong.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
You gotta give me some answers.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'd rather hear your theories. I have considered indeoactive spiders
and kryptonite.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's all superherous stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Right. What if I'm not the hero?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What if I'm the bad guy?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You know what you are?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You're skinner is haill, white and ice cool. Don't go
out into the sunlight?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
See it? Wud see Itampio? So should we play some
moody Twilight? What's the same song?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I try to sing it and you said I wasn't
good at it.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I just think that you started singing Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I always want to.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's okay. We're just definitely not gonna waste air time
on that, so sorry, listeners, A brilliant, honest reveal Twilight.
We should say Twilight could mean many things. It could
mean the Twilight saga, which is all the movies.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It could mean the time of day.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay, yes, I wasn't gonna go there really.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Review the best time of day?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, some depending what time I've been to sleep.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I guess I quite like dusk or I like dust too.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
There's something a bit magic in the air. I also like,
you know, like midnight, the Witchy Hour. Anyway, this is
not a review of Times a Day. This is a
review of the two thousand and eight movie Twilight. So
we're doing the movie because it has been twenty years
this week since the first Twilight book by Stephanie Meyers
came out.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Isn't that insane? In this is one of the first
times where you've said something like it's been this amount
of years since this where I was there for the beginning.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, because only I'm talking about stuff from my childhood.
But I've been like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
When we did Clueless and stuff, I missed the beginning
of that. So this is like one of the first
times where I'm like.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I was there. Yes, Yes, you're in the weeds of
this important.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So we're going to be going through the Twilight movie.
And I should say we do have a third voice
in the room, our producer Manitia.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Militia twy hard TWI hard because we needed a.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Really die hard twy hard fare And it should be
said that Minisha is the executive producer of the spill,
who does all the things and you make all a
lot of the decisions. But I think it was your
first week here that you put in our diaries for
this week that we were doing a brutally honored with
your Twilight. That's how much you wanted this. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
As soon as I found out about the concept of
a brutally honest review, I was like, where do we.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Work Twilight in?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
What's the next Twilight animsary? And there's been so much
Twilight buzz this year because it did twenty years since
the book. So I was like, now it's the time.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I love it. We love a producer comes in and
forces their own ideology. Almost did you reject it onto
the pod?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Did you ever write Twilight fan fiction?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I didn't release it, but I doubled in my own Yeah.
I doubled in my own life, my personal life, like
for myself, just for me.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh, so you wrote what did you write? Well?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I just wrote, so I got it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Did you write yourself into the book?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I didn't write myself in. But after fifty Shades Direction
fifty Shades if, Grace.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Started a Twilight fan ficture that took off and it
became this huge, massive thing, and that kind of inspired me.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
So I dabbled, but it didn't take off.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Okay, you didn't you judgment you didn't like. No, I'm
not judging it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'm personally never written fan fiction, but I do it
in my head all the time, so I'm not. I'm
not judging you for that. But you didn't have any
of the because the whole thing of fan fiction is
that people take two characters who wouldn't normally have sex
and make them have sex. That's correct.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Mine wasn't that sexual, but it was very in the
were wolf sort of universe.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, yeah, push so important. So fifty Shades was based
on the dynamic in the Twilight book and kind of
she just wanted that kind of dynamic between the characters.
But Sephanie Meyer also said that she had a dream
of an Edward like figure coming in her room and
watching her sleep. And that's why people have ripped apart
the character of Bella Swan so much over the years,
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is that it's the ultimate kind of author insert where
you can just tell the author, which no judgment on
the author has very much written themselves into a scenario
they wish they were living in such a way that
sometimes the character seems thin because it's just the person
who's writing it. Okay, so the book comes out. We're
going a deep cut here because this is like really
the first time, yeah, that we've all experienced the same thing. Yes,
(05:27):
I'm so young, you're so cool in here, or that
we've all experienced the same thing. So, and what was
your first memory of the book or movie? Which one
came first for you? The book?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So i's the correct way I read the books when
they first came out. I was I don't know, I
think I was a bit young for them, but my
mom was very cool and she allowed me to read them.
My mom was also the type of mom that was
like very into kids reading. Like she was like, my
kids have to read. They always have to have a
book on them. It can't just be reading for school.
You always have to read. And I honestly think that's
(05:56):
how I got into this profession. But Twilight was probably
the first book after Harry Potter where she was like, oh,
now you're starting to read stuff that I can also read.
So I read Twilight and she knew about Twilight because
I was all me and my friends could talk about.
I was probably ten years old when the first Twilight
book came out, so she would read every Twilight book.
(06:16):
So after after I read Twilight, she would read it
while I was reading New Moon, so we'd like take turns,
and I honestly think it like solidified my friendship with
my mom. Like that was probably the first time when
I was about ten eleven when I was like, oh,
my mom's my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And then when the movies came out, Oh my god,
this is so wild to me. But the Twilight movie
was the first ever early screening I've ever gone.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Really, that is the power this whole franchise had over people.
So I was I'm obviously a bit older than you,
So I was reading the books through UNI I think
it was, and I really liked them, but that's I
was only reading my romance and fantasy at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And were you reading them because you were like, oh,
I have to read it because everyone's read it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No. I think I picked up really early because that
was my genre yea that I read in. So I
remember reading Twilight like literally when it first came out,
before it blew up, didn't even I didn't even mean
to be a trendsetter. Oh and then I just loved
that kind of stuff. I struggled with it a bit
because I had been raised on a school of like
things like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where I was like, so,
we're just not going to kill any of these vampires,
(07:19):
like she's just she's just gonna date them. I can't
be on board with this, But I remember reading the
books and just thinking, and here's a hill I'll die
on is that Stephaniemi is a good writer. And I
think people think she's not. I think people think she's not.
I've read all her books, not just the Twilight ones.
She has a very intoxicating way of writing, and these books, yes,
the premise is very sexy, but there's a lot of
sexy vampire books out there, and.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
The fact that you can write some like something that's
so appealing to both children and adults is such a
good testament to your writing.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And she taps into this, and I think the reason, again,
there's so many vampire books out there and that don't
all take off like this. She tapped into something that
again is like a bit cringe for her of the
author insert thing, but she tapped into something is that
like everyone wanted to everyone thinks, but no one says
out loud. Is that and the reason why teenagers and
adults like these books so much. It taps into this
(08:08):
moment in like your teenage year, where you're like everything
seems dull and small, like Bella in the beginning of
the book and the movie when we first introduced her
through her voiceover. Through both, it feels like she's sleepwalking
through her own life and this huge, exciting, sexy thing
happens to her, and all of a sudden, this other
worldly creature just thinks that she's the most precious thing
in the world. And I think, secretly, like teenagers and
(08:30):
adults both kind of want that. Yeah, who doesn't tap
into So that was our first takeaways. Minsha, how did
you first read the books?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, you're laughing because you know the mother daughter bond
was also a big part of this series for me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I remember, don't compare my mother daughter to what
you did with your mom's a right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
When you do not. So I remember seeing a.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Girl on the school bus reading Twilight, and she was
a girl I really want to be friends with.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
We became friends. She's she was really cool and I
was like, she's reading this book. I need to read
this book.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So I went home and tell my mom about it,
and my mom was like, I really like eight or nine, and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
She was like, it seems a little adult for you.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
What if we read it together, one page by one page?
So she would read a page out loud, and then
I would read a page out.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Loud, which sounds quite sweet.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But then when you get to Breaking Dawn and you're
like fourteen and they're like having sex on their honeymoon, just.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Got bruises all over a body, and.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He's like, I don't want to do it, I'll break
you like being weird to read your mom, I'm like,
could we stop this tradition now?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I never thought about you because when you say it
sounds a bit sweet to start off with, no, it doesn't.
Just so you know, like I was nine, I read
I did that with my mom as a kid too,
Like she would read a page, I would do it,
read a page. But we did that with the Little
House on the Prairie. That's the same rank. That's the
correct book to do that. With no shade to your mother.
I'm sure she's lovely, but I just at what's what
(09:51):
stage was it was in Breaking Dawn that you were like, hey, mom,
let's not read these sex scenes out loud to each other.
Maybe we'll just go read them separately. And that's fine.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well in Eclipse when Bella first tries to have sex
with Edward, but.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
He's like, I don't want to steal your virtue. Yeah,
I was a bit like, oh, it's getting.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Like a bit weird, like maybe we could just read
them separately, and she was like, oh no, but we've
like started them together.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I feel like we should see it through.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And then I remember her saying at one point they're
married people having sex.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
What's the issue anyway? Which is so fair. It's just
good time. I want to read with your mum. Anyway.
It's more again like in all like the sexy makeout
scenes and stuff before that. But anyway, everyone has their
own journey. So the movie comes out in two thousand
and eight and is a huge success in sports, a
big franchise, which, again, not every teen book does that.
(10:37):
A lot of teen books come out with a huge
fan base. Mortal Instruments comes to mind, and they falter.
This one did. Something interesting is that it wasn't first
made as a blockbuster. It was made as a smaller
indie film, and Catherine Hardwick was the director, and she
had come off really kind of more gritty, prestige independent
movies like Thirteen, and she tried to make Twilight not
(10:59):
as a teen fantasy, not as a romance, as more
of a kind of dark, artsy Yeah, very artistic, artsy,
gritty kind of movie, which to be Yeah, I actually
think works really well. It's very atmospheric.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, but it was just like one of those things
where there's no stopping the teenage girls. Yeah, like they
knew they were going to get a movie, and they
knew they were going to watch it and love it.
And it's so funny when I rewatch Twilight now as
an adult, I imagine myself as watching it as a kid.
I would have been twelve years old when it came out,
I think, and I was like this, there's no way
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you would have liked a movie like that ever at
that age.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Really.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, it's just such funny, Like the scenes are just
so now, they're like mimable, Yeah, whereas like in the moment,
I was like this is so.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Deep and nazi.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh yeah maybe, I mean, and I felt like an
adult watching it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, because it does shy away from any of like this,
and I think it becomes as the movie goes along,
it becomes more like blookbustery, it becomes more like more
young adult, it becomes glossier. Yeah, but in that first one,
you it does feel like you're you're it's like almost
set in the same world as Thirteen, which have you
guys seen that movie? Holy hell, yeah, yeah that is gritty. Yeah,
it's the same time. And that's why Nicky Reid was
(12:11):
cast as Rosalie, which I know people really didn't like
her casting, and part of me does think like she
does feel out of place a little bit for that character.
But she started thirteen and she also co wrote it
with Catherine Hardwick. I remember, So that was Katherine Hardwick
wanting to work with an actress that she had a
really good relationship with and she thought was really talented
and so put her in that character.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And yeah, but it works for like the other generation
because that's the first time I saw Nicky read yeah
in movie. So in my head, I'm like, oh my god,
she's such a bad like she's always going to be
in that badass role.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Really, I was just like, oh my god, that was my.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Introduction to her.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I was like, that's Sadie from the oc Yese.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's so weird, and like now she just has these
two altera.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's interesting because when Stephanie Meyer wrote the book, she
and it became really successful. As she was writing a sequel,
she was like, she knew it was going to be
a movie, and she knew exactly who she wanted to play,
Edward Cullen. Do you know this Henry Cavill. Henry Cavill.
There's a whole blog post that she wrote in two
thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Was Henry Cavill. I probably would have been team Edwood
but old.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
By the time they made the movie, that was the
general consensus. But I would have.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thought, like some black curse on him.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I was as because he's so Henry Cavill was also
so aware that he was nearly Edward Cullen, because he
has said it interviews that he knew that Stephanie Meyer
was desperate for him to be Edward Cullen, but he
said like, at the end of the day, it wasn't
her choice. And then who she wanted for Bella. I
mean everyone auditioned for Bella. Lily Collins Michelle Chatchenberg. Jennifer
(13:35):
Lawrence went in and said she didn't understand what she
was auditioning for. She's like, I just wanted to a
room and they hand me a piece of paper and
they were like act monkey act, and she walked out
beying like I don't know what the hell that was
not doing that movie. And then she saw at the
cinema and she was like, oh, okay, I think, but
Stephanie Meyer really wanted Emily Browning, which I thought her cavalty.
Oh my, somewhere in an alternate I want that movie.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
What's his name from Team wolfe?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Wait? Tyler Posey?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I think Taylor Lorn is perfect.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, but Tyler Posey had no way. Did Team Wolf
come after?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, so then he got his Wolf.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Experience of Wolf experience. Yeah, I think maybe he auditioned for it.
I think they were the ones that she wanted for
those particular roles. But it's interesting because they auditioned so
many people for Bella and Edward because of course the
whole thing was going to hinge on that. Robert Pattinson
had been in Harry.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Potter movies in that state, Cedric Diggery, yes, and then
he was sp Yeah, boilers.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
That's actually how they came across him. They were looking
at people from the Harry Potter world who.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
They bring over.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Which is a good strategy because like, I feel like
they were the blueprint yeah, for like both children but
also being able to go with your parents and your
parents also enjoying the movies that were Harry Potter and
the book series that came before it, like and then
having that same fan based consistently throughout each movie. I
feel like that's such a good blueprint.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, or Twilight exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And Christian Schwart had been a child actor, very successful,
but she obviously didn't have a huge fan base, Like
she wasn't coming into it as big as some of
these other actresses. But Catherine, I don't know, you love
this story, Minisha, You're creepy.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Girl the bedroom story.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah yeah, okay, So Catherine Hardwick also she just should
have made all the movies because that woman is like
a method filmmaker. So she got Kristen Stewart and Rob
Pattinson to come to her house to film one of
the essentially film the chemistry tests for Twilight, and she
got them to a scene and then she got them
to make out on her bed and she was filming
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them with like a little can carder and shit, it
would be allowed.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Now he was seen on the bed, can't stop himself
and then.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
He's like still like throws himself back and wall and
she said, Robert, she said their chemistry was undeniable, which
is obviously why they went on to date for many years.
Their chemistry was undereniable. They got so into like pashing
and kissing and all this sort of stuff on her
bed in her home while she's filming them for a
chemistry test that she said Rob Pattinson took it too
(15:58):
far and she also had to pull him back and
he ended up tumbling off the bed.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Palpable chemistry. Clearly they can hold. I love this story
so much.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I am member watching the interview or whoever it was
that she said that, and I was like, wow, like
to have chemistry like that that cuts through the room
like a knife.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But then it is creepy that it's in her house.
I do you agree for a man was doing it?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I love that to your reaction, my reactions like I
feel unsafe.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
After get me Stewart said to her, I will do
this movie and it has to be Robert Pattinson. No
one else after that, after the bed scene.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, I'm sure anyone would say that, Yeah, this
was that good. I was like, I'll take this job.
But it has to be Robert Patterson.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, the man who just flung me off the bed
in my director's home.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I'm still sad about Henry Calvilter.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He might have fallen off the bed.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I feel like he'd be much more composed.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And he thinks about it all the time, just so
you know, especiallycause he just lost his job on the Witcher,
lost his job, lost his job as Superman.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And then lost his job on the Witcher.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh there's a curse on that man, on that handsome, white,
successful rich man. So to the movie. Now we've got
this set up.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, to the movie.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So we it starts off with, actually, it starts off
with a very artistic scene of a deer being killed
in the woods.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Beautiful imagery, beautiful monologue, beautiful monlog with Christian Stuwitt's voice.
A lot of people have said the first page of
Twilight's one of the best opening pages in a lot
of books that have come out in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Actually night for a drama recital.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Did you have monologue?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Okay, I never put much thought into how I would die.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But you're like white.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I did not expect you.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
To be like, No, the damion place, it's someone I love,
seems like a good way to go.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, that's what she said.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Anyway, she said that as a seventeen year old. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, And then we have the deer being killed, and
then it flips to Bellow, who is a young teenage
girl who is moving away from Phoenix, Arizona, yep, because
her mother has married a football player.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And they want to go to honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, but they're going to go off on the road
because that's his job. Yeah yeah, and have some married time.
And so she moves to Hawks with her dad, Charlie,
who you're a bit of a fan.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Of guys as an adult woman, I think it's safe
to say that Charlie is a heart throb.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Hot with his mustache and here's like police get up.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, and he's gruff, but like really caring, like when
he just goes in the car and yeah, he gets
her car, then you just change the tires. That being
Asset's away. She's never been taken care of before.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh my god, it comes in old gloom. I mean,
I hate the cold, I hate rain, and yet you
brought your little cactus. Obviously that's not gonna live here.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
It's gonna die.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
In two seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Am I fawning over the dad? Probably for different reasons.
I was like, Oh, maybe it's nice to have a dad,
and you're like, I want to date him.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Lots of issues being.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Worked out on this pod. We love how pop culture
shines the mirror back to ourselves. So this is actually
when she gets the car. That's her first meeting with
Jacob played by Taylor Lautner, who was only ever supposed
to be in one Twilight movie, just the first one,
and then they were planning to read so you only
had his contract was to one movie. And then they said,
because the character and the books go through such a
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big transformation, you're playing the little, weedy, young version of
the character, and then when he goes through his werewolf transformation,
he becomes really sexy, we're going to recast.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And Tailoran was like, not my watch.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, actually Kristen Stewart was like, not on my watch.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
She fought for him to stay she might as well
direct the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
She was like, I want that boy.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And that boy and that boy, and that she's just
picking all the boys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
So Taylor Lawner then had.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
To when we forgot that Jacob also had made the
engine in her car.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
He's a handy Yeah, he remakes the engine. Yeah, and
he shows her how to drive the car.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, your team Edwater, team Jacob.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
We're doing this right now.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
We have to so complicated, No, just pick one.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
At the initial time, I was team Jacob because I
think I was a little superficial back then and I
was just.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Like, ooh, tan Abs, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
But then as I've matured as an adult, I think
from an intellectual standpoint and a financial standpoint, because.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'm not asking if your team Jacob or Edward. As
an adult a financial standpoint also, it was like, I
literally just want a name.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
My mind is with Edward, but my body's with Jacob.
Can I say that.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Just so you know that's not just the worst thing
you've ever said?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, now I actually do need the explanation.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is the worst thing of human beings ever said.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But just think my bodies with Jacob. Think about the art,
the music, Edward. He plays piano.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
He's probably invested in a lot of stocks over the
century plus that he's been alive, all the things he
could teach you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, the only things I've invested in is graduation caps,
which don't retail for grades.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Just keep going. Looked it up.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
But I think that Jacob is just more of a visceral,
like he's hot wolf protect me.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I'll leave it there, marry my daughter.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I actually don't hate that plot point as much as
some others, but that's breaking.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Dawns, so I'll leave it me too.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay, anyway, what do you well? I still don't really
know what my nature is.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's not half. She said. Her mind is Edward, but
her body.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Was team because I am a vain person. Yeah, I
was team Edward first, maybe team Jacob for the rest.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Wait, how does that make you? He's so like, he's
not as hot as Jacob in it physically.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
That's why it makes me vain? No, because I wasn't
team Jacob in the first movie, and then when he
gets hot in Your Moon, I was team Jacob.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I think it was the hair. When he cut his hair,
I was like, I'm all in, You're all in, all in?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You're Edward for sure?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Are you not?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Can I say your shack boy?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Jacob is so different to your type, though, is he?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah? Okay, no no?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
And you like you like smart guys.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I don't know where you picked that up from. All
my crush is a Pacey from Dawson's Creek, Dean from Supernatural,
and Daryl from the Walking Day. None of those men
have ever read a book.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I still think those men aligned more with Edward than Jacob.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, here's the thing about Edward is, like the initial
movie and book, I'm just like, Yeah, I'm into this
brooding vampire. Except when he's trying not to smell her.
That's the worst looking Mand's ever had on his face.
It's so embarrassing for him.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But I just found him quite creepy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
As the books were along and I was actually reading
Breaking Dawn, I was like flipping the pages really fast
because I was.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like, don't marry this creepy man.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I really wanted her to like run away with Jacob
and I I knew it wasn't gonna happen, but I
also just didn't want them to be together. I find
Edward controlling in an intense way, and has that man
ever said an interesting word. He's got no charisma, he's
got no risk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I feel like he gave so many young girls such
big complexes about what their dating life's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah. Yeah. I think people like the idea of this powerful,
as I said, this powerful creature loving you so much
and like being obsessed with being obsessed with you, and
like watching over when you sleep. I don't find that
creepy at all. I find that lovely actually, and like
all this kind of protecting you. But then the further
the relationship they such to fall in love. It's the
(22:52):
first time I'm like, there's no chemistry between these book characters,
which never happens. Yeah. Yeah, it's all physical, there's no
there's no chemistry between them. Do you agree?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Also, I think what didn't help in the movie was
that they took out a lot of the dialogue and
they just played music over it and they sat in
a tree.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There's a lot of music.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, And so I think that also didn't help.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Monkey Do you know that I don't want a monkey man?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Thet me go, do you know what Ruins is to me?
Is that when they were doing all those like very
physical scenes and you're supposed to see Robin Pattinson's Edward
Cullen be like lifting her up and rescue her and
dropping her from like and jumping with her and like
he's so physical and protective and it's love that. And
like when they were doing those scenes, poor Rob Pattinson,
who also didn't have a license at the time, so
every time you see him driving, they're just like having
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to tow the car's.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Driving in like his little Volvo drive.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's got a license to the talk. And then he's like, yeah,
I tore my glute really bad when we were doing
the action scenes, so I couldn't do them anymore. I
was like, oh god, Jacob, dude, I'm trying so hard
to have a crush on you, but you're stopping me at.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Every time Taylor Lorna is in the brace like lifting
way smashing me, Patty lifting the truck, He's like, when's imaga?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So he went with we're just not saying on track
with this. So he went off and bogked up and
when he came back to said or bogged up Christians,
she said that she started crying because she was so
proud that he had done it and tried as well.
For anyway, we haven't even got to her meeting Edward.
Then she goes to the high school.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes, and there's one seat available in the science lab. Yes,
and it's next to him, and she so she walks
into the classroom and then she happens to stand in
front of the one fan in the classroom and the
hair goes wash, wish, wish, and then you see the
smell send Edward and Edward looks like he's about to ship.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's not attractive, it's not attractain.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That is the worst look an actor has ever had
on their face.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh my god, I know he regrets that, trying.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So hard to be in love with this man he's
not letting me.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, gave creepy vibes.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They also in the movie cut one of my favorite moments.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
From the book, which is also science lab related, which
is with the needles and the blood and how her
whole fear of blood and then she faints and he
like takes care of her, which I thought was the
pinnacle of hotness.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And they took her and they took it out and
they replaced it with when he goes away for a
bit because he had to feed and come back with
this hazel eyes and then he's like hello.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, he's like and he's the only person.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Are you enjoying this rain?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
It's literally a I.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And then we get our introduction to the Culen siblings.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
That introduction when they all come into the cafe where
they all glide in.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You see them outside and they're like on this like
moving treadmill thing. It looks like they're not walking because
they're just gliding. Yeah, and they all glide and arm
in arm, and then you find out that they're all siblings.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But they're also in taking us, which I agree with.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Anna Kendrick, Anna Kendrick who we will just call her
Anna Kendrick as we go through. She's so good in
this movie. She had everyone else talks about how horrible
it was being in that rainsoaked place so long, such
long hours, and she was like, I would fly and
do once scene. Flower had a great time. She forgot
she was in the movies for a while. People talked
about Twilight. She's like, yeah, Twilight. Then she's like, I
was in that I forgot, And she's so good as
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that character. I want to Anna Kendrick. Yeah, she's just
Ana Kendrick. She's like, you know what, those siblings are
having sex and that's wet and they live together. That's
fair enough.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It is true.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And when they all walk in in that iconic sibling scene.
Really important factor note is that Emmett or Kellen Lut's
the guy who plays him.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, so the hottest one.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It depends what you No, we love a dumb beefcake.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
He's the hottest one.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He's a Travis Kelcey anyway, he is a Travis Kelcey.
He is holding this bag of eggs in that scene
and they're just like twelve, like hard boiled eggs or
six or twelve, but yeah, how many? And it's just
because the actor brought that as lunch and it just
found its way into the scene. And I just always
think that's so weird that he's just holding a back
of eggs and.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He's swinging them as he walks.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
He is trying to explain to the humans why his
physique was like that. He's like, look the eggs I eat.
That explains the muscle.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That actually makes sense. And there's someone who's dated a
bodybuilder that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, it's more than I promise you it's not a
fo the supermodel who's dated a body yeah, as someone
who's also been in love with a hundred yeard fan pire.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Can I just say so? Then we get I'm really
trying to move this a long. Sorry, I know obviously
this could be a fifth In our podcast, Bella is
all like, I'm going to confront Edward because she's saying
that he's rude to her. But I think the subtext
is he she thinks he thinks she smells bad because
every time in the movie when she keeps seeing him,
she keeps smelling her own hair.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, and you know what, maybe she does smell bad.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And then well, that's that's what I don't when I
was a kid, you do.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
It turns out she just smells too good.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
She smells too good, too good.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But also he's also freaking out because he can't read
her mind. Yes, and she's the only person who can't read.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
What I mean, wow, And she's like a tasty, wicked
wing to him.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What would be your food version of Bella?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Come on? Only like a wicked wings up there something?
So I mean, I guess you'd almost want it to
be like really sweet or maybe something delicious.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It has to be something that you say no to
if you get off it and fleshy like the world.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait, stop, it doesn't have to be flesh.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I'm so.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I just mean, like, if someone were to offer you
this food you can't like physically can't say no to.
I'm not like making you choose different meats.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I'm like, oh, my teeth's sinking into a succulent piece
of chicken.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Like, I get it. Anyway, No, you to get to
whlets maybe like the like the world's crispiest, perfect French
fry with like a troll dress and it's steaming hot
and you have to bite into it. Oh my god,
that's what I hope. I would smell like to a vampire.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And then you're in love with it and you can't
eat it.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, imagine being in love with the French fry and
you can't eat it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That would be really hard.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I understand, Edward, now, Yeah, me too, get it. Well,
Sephanie ma is working on levels that we can't even understand.
So then we have what I think is the hottest
scene in the entire movie. You guys, when she's in
the car park and Bella. The car's coming towards her,
and Edward jumps in and he goes and stops it
with his hand, and.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Then he runs away. And then he runs away, and
then the guy driving was like, Bella, Oh my god,
how did you do that?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He keeps saying, and he's like so sort of sorry.
I don't know how you did that, but I'm so sorry.
And he follows into the hospitality keeps being.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Like and then Charlie just like closes the curtain.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Charlie's regretting everything in his life right now.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And then we're also introduced to Edward's dad, Carlisle.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Okay, when I.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Was reading the books as a kid, I thought his
name was Callisslie. I called him Callisslie until I watched
the movie and I was like, who's Carlos And I was.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Like, that's so the biggest jump scare of my life.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
As a child, Like I don't know that man, Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Wow, And like I was so certain his name was
Callislie that in my head, I was like, Oh, they
changed it to Carlisle so we could say it better.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
No, No, that's how you say cars is a unique spelling.
And he, of course is played by Peter Fassinelli, who
I think originally auditioned for Charlie and then ended up
getting Carlisle, which I think is the better role. Married
to Jenny Garth from Beverly Hills nine O two one O,
who played Kelly for many years. So he was in
a Hollywood power couple for many many years.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
NEPO husband.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Sure. I think he was an active first, but okay,
we'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And he was a vampire first. So he's the one
who started the Carlor.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Clan, yes, and he's the one who doesn't let any
of them feast on the flesh of human.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, the vegetarians, yes, so good man. So we after
the car scene, Bella starts getting suspicious of Edward. She
meets up with Jacob. They kind of chat, they go,
I think they go to a beach, right, And she
invites Edward to the beach and he doesn't turn up
and put baby the best fly Okay, that's the push baby,
(30:36):
And then she feels rejected and then some of Jacob's
friends say the Colins don't come here, and then she
was like, Jacob, what do they mean by that? He's like, oh,
you heard that, did you?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
The tension. The tension build is incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's like, all that's right, right, you pick that up,
didn't you?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Sorry? It was a subtle of the ton of bricks.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
The colins don't come here. The colins don't come here.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And she's like, what do you mean by that? He's like, oh,
you heard that. She's like, oh no, I would never
ask any follow up questions that such a declaration.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And then we learn later that, like Jacob's going through
some things. I feel like that can be the kind
of how we go through our menstrual cycle. That's kind
of what Jacob was going through in the first Twilight
Movie's a heel face is a teal face, Yeah, because
he's like becoming a were wolf and he's getting moody
and angry. I don't know why I'm something getting so strong.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, it's because the Culen family in the area is
making the were wolves.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, more of them turn right, Yeah, a lot of
there's a lot more well were wolves than they used
to be, and that's because of were wolves don't like vampires, viceversa.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And then Bella kind we're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
A recap of the other ones. That's so much more
interesting of what the other want is, so let us
know if you want the other movies, because this one's
going so well.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I mean, this is going off the rails. But Okay.
Then Bella discovers through her own research that Edward is
a vampire. And to that, I say, is she the
only person forked with the computer? Like she literally saw that.
She like, arrived in town, looked at this weird man
who doesn't go out in the sun. I was like, oh,
Google's for like five seconds and it's like, oh, he's
a vampire. Why didnt anyone else do that?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
No, because what triggered her is when she went to
get that book from that shop. Yeah, and then I
think it had some words in there that She then
googled the book and then she figured out vampire lot
is also hard at the most dodgiest website. I'm like,
you're getting a virus girl anything. Charlie was like, why
(32:36):
Bella just like Edward ab.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
And what would kill me? And then they have the
whole scen where they go to the other town and
he saves her and that's when they go and have
mushroom ravioli, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And she went home and googled even more and she
was like, will my vampire boyfriend eat me? And it
said probably probably to say, you're on.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Reddit just like vampire human relationship.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
What would a chat?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Well, yeah, how would she ask GPT, She'll be like
vampire human future question.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Mark, please wait for more and then be like can
we have sex? Can we kiss? Will he kill me?
Will his family kill me? Well? I kill him if
I stabbing through the heart with some wood.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Oh my god TBC.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, hard to say.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
So then after that they decided they're together pretty quickly.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It goes from like, real dating isn't like this, You
don't go from zero to one hundred and come out
a bit dinner with the vampire family and they go
off into the little foresty bit near the school and
then she says, well, he says the iconic so the
lion fell in love with the lamb and she says,
what a stupid lamb And he says, what a sick
masochistic lion.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And then there's vibes.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh, it's like I'm watching it, are you?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Are you like watching that movie in your head while
we're doing this.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, it's very vivid for me right now.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
But I've found really funny as a kid watching this
is he's standing at like the entry of the forest
and she's like parked a car, and she doesn't say
anything to him. She just walks straight past him, and
he's following her, and then she just starts talking and
I was like, she doesn't even know he's behind her.
What is she doing this full monologue and not there
like she didn't ask him to follow her. Well, I mean,
(34:17):
so maybe she's got a six times too.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Maybe Well, we do find that she has a dormant superpower,
that's why she becomes a shield. But anyway, let's give
me a head like five movies. So they get together,
they kiss a lot, cute, and then their biggest, their
biggest challenge happens, which is that Bella has to go
to the colored house.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Can I say, we see him glow, we see him
sparkle in the sun. Yah, but like he makes her
walk up the whole mountain to get to the sun,
Like why did you just walk back out of the forest.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Okay, you've got a real thing about it, just like
incidental exercise.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I do.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I feel like this gets brought up a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
If what are the facts, You're like, I would fall
out of love with that man if he made me
walk up a hill, and god.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
If a man makes me walk up a hill, I'm done.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, because later on Jacob carries her upper hill and
that's the sexiest scene the whole thing. Anyway, Again, we
move on, so then she has to meet the Color family.
Can kind of say the best thing about the Twilight
Universe is when and which I wish she'd gone riten
more of is Stephanie Meyer. This law that she creates
around all these different vampires and all their origin stories
and how they came to be and how they live
and like the Vulture and their rules and everything. Every time.
(35:21):
Like That's why I think I love the later books,
because I'm like, I don't really care about Edward and
Bella as much and they're creepy offspring baby. I more
care about this intense vampire world and all these people
in it. So then we get to the Color House
and they're playing Italian music there.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And they're cooking in the kitchen for the first time. Yeah,
even though she knew they don't eat, so she said,
I had lunch before. And then Rosalie gets really angry
and smashes the salad that looks shit anyway, fair enough,
but they don't have to cook. They don't eat.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
This is also where they tried to bring some like
kind of quippy humor into it, which fills out of
place with this kind of moody, realistic movie that Catherine
Hardbook was trying to make. Is that this is when
they start trying to make it more of like a
poppy kind of teen movie, where they're just like, we're
making Italian how many she likes to tell? Well, her
name's Bella And every in the movie was like ha ha.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And I was like, but I like how they kept
Emmett kind of funny throughout the whole.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, well that was lare in line with his personality.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, Like to Alice, she's got that quirky you know,
quirky girl. She's a little bit funny.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
She's a bit weird. Okay, she's meant to be.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's really weird Jasper.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And he's really struggling not to eat her like that.
Traffle fry is real for him.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
So it's her birthday, right, so they all get her gift?
Or am I thinking of a different dinner party?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You're thinking of different This is not what he's back
the second movie and from them we sort of really
kind of see them fall in love to him extent.
We still we see Charlie have to deal with the
situation when Edward comes over and he pulls his gun off.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, he's the coolest dad.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You're obsessed with Charlie so much.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I needed more airtime.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
That's my one. Yeah, exactly. Well, he became such a
fan favorite. There's all these photo that all these videos
from inside, like the midnight screenings of the last movie,
and how they have all their pictures, can't the end
and like they have this extended credits because it's the
end of this huge blockbuster franchise and all the biggest
cheers for Charlie's loving him. And then we come to
(37:15):
I'm gonna let a lemon say one of your favorite
scenes and maybe one of yours. Two more on, actually
yours your favorite ones of the sex scenes, so you
deal with that in your own time. But there's no
sex scene in this movie sexually charged scene.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I meant to say, is your favorite scene where he's
like watching her in bed.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'm mean, I do like the kissing in the bed scene.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But anyway, the very small scene is wonderful, and the
music by music. It was really important Stephanie Meyer to
have songs by music in her movie because she's a
huge fan and I just think super Massive black Hole
just makes that scene.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't mind that music, but I find the rest
of the music in the movie really weird, really like
especially the music.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
The music's great.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
The music when they meet each other for the first
time in that lab, it's like a full electric guitar
just playing.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
She was trying something, Okay, it was crazy to be
a female filmmaker take a chance and try and make He.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Looks like it's about to shoo himself and like, do.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
There's also two Robert Pattinson so for the movie, the
one where they're in the restaurant and also the one
where later on he's trying really hard not to kill
her and eat all of her.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
But he's a serious musician.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Two of his songs his own songs, and he sings them.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, he sings yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
The one where he's like, no, no, that's him.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, that's him. He's a musician. Don't you know anything
about him? That's why he and Sticky Waterhouse for in
Love because they're both at the end of the day,
broody artistic musicians.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh my god, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Are you gonna go listen to all of his music now?
So we have the baseball says, I think where we
are and I think it's safe to say that even
though this just looks like it's a.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Perfect weather for baseball.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, it's because the lightning is It is actually a
fun detail. The lightning storm is happening, so that means
that they can make as much noise as they want
and the town would just think it's a thunderclub.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, and you know what fair, But it was like
what I really wanted as a kid. I didn't really
understand that scene. Really, I really didn't under it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Was trying to show them because the rest of the
time they're pretending to be humans. So they are so
kind of reserved with like their movements and what they say.
And you're meant to see them, you meant yeah, you
meant no, no, not a family. You meant to see
them look like other worldly creatures, because that's what they are.
It's they're letting loose. They're letting loose, and so that's
why they're movements. So they sped them up with the running.
(39:24):
They're doing stunts.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
They like yeah they oh my god, the kids they.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Have cranes pulling them up. It's like one of the
most stunt heavy scenes because they're trying to show like,
this is how these mythical creatures would move were not
pretending to be humans.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And it just ends up looking a little bit weird,
but it's also an iconic scene.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Oh my god. As a kid, I was like, oh
my god, I want to do.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
That a vampire baseball league. It's all.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I think that scene cemented in every person's mind like
you should be a vampire.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Absolutely. It made me want it.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Real, some of the real sexy ones later on, more
so than I could play baseball real good. Anyway, Then
we have the introduction of some very important characters and
they also glide in and this is I love this scene,
any of it. This is where Catherine Hardwick's filmmaking just
absolutely shiny through. Is that you have these three nomadic
vampires come through who have kind of formed a family, Laurent,
(40:16):
James and Victoria. And the way they kind of almost
appear on the field and the camera stands on them
and like the music stops, and you have this real
even though it's a teen love stories, there's no real
stakes to it. You have this real sense of fear
about these evil creatures appearing, which I loved. I'm like, yes,
evil vampires, this is all I've been waiting for this
whole movie.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Especially because they're like, get behind me, better take your
hair down, it'll mask the scent.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Oh, you guys are really weird with this movie. I
find I want to sho more at these characters because
we obviously have Laurent who is kind of very loyal
to the Colins but also is not afraid to stab
a human's neck real quick. And they're not a vegetarian.
You know, he's not a vegetarian. None of them are,
and that their lives. The problem is that Victoria is
a bloodthirsty vampire desperately in love with her mate James.
(41:02):
I love that they mate for life, is like little
bloodsuck penguins who mate for life. And then James, of
course is a tracker and once he locks onto a
particular stent, he can't ever let it go.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Which is weird as a tracker, Like it took him
a while.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I think he did okay. He followed her for a while.
He was up against indefense of James, the human killer
he had. He was up against the whole Culin family
trying to thwart him from finding Bella, and he does
find her. Also, I actually love that James is played
by cam gitch Dante, who was Volcek in the OC.
It comes back to the OC.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And he's in burlesque.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yes, so importantly, but he's like the lead.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Sexy man but with not long hair, so you might
be confused. Oh my god, he is.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
But more importantly, he had come. He had come to
play this evil character trying to kill Bella off the
back of playing an evil character in the OC where
he did kill Marissa Cooper was gonna die? Well, no,
I read the book, so what's gonna happen? But I'm
just saying, this is this sexy teen heart throbs.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
All they can do is kill you.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Trying to kill young teen heroines. That's his stick.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
So at first they were like, we're just playing baseball,
do you guys want to play?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
And then they did.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Okay, but then the wind came and you see Bella's
hair move, and then Jame goes, I see you.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Brought a snack. I love that line.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
And then they all go the cats and then it's
on and then he checked, and I think.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
That's the first look we see of like the vampires
like looking feral, where they like get into their full
vampire moment. And even Bella's like.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Public shit, I don't want to be here anything.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Ill bye, and it it gets.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Really dark, which means then that the Colin family has
Chinky Bella safe. Now. Bella, in her defense, she's not
registering the severitance situation because she's just like, yeah, that's
one vampire, but there's so many of you, and shouldn't
we just stay here and it'll be fine. And she
obviously wants to stay with Edward, which is fair enough.
And then they make the decision that Edward has to
(43:07):
go one way. The Columns will try and track her down,
and Jasper and Alice will take Bella to a safe
house and keep her safe.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And she screws it all up, does she though?
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yes, oh, come on, now, you wouldn't for she thought
her mother, So they obviously go away. He tracks her
and then he tricks her into thinking that he has
kidnapped her mother and is holding her in a dance
studio and Bella goes to save her mom, which fair enough.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay, look, okay, I love my mom.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
But you loved it more after Twilight.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Obviously not but okay, out of all the moms to
do that for Bella, your mom ditched you for a
man to go on a honeymoon and send you to
Colia has rainy Washington with your little cactus.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
She doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Let her die, let her she die, just let her die.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Okay, doesn't you ruined for everyone?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
And then everyone's like, Bella, you to stay rags, Bella,
And when find.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Someone else, any other really completely safe? He couldn't find you.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Literally, Well, there's two of us me Alice who can
see into the future, Jasper who bit we willing.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
To do water takes. We just loved the opportunity to
kill someone.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, and he's like kind of new Wish, so he's
a bit more stronger than the rest of him.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yes, Bella, she makes a mistake by going to like
not let her mother die. She gets to the dance
studio and.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Then James is like, let me film.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, and he really played that weird mirror game. There's
no sexual tension.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
What will with the video.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I don't know, is he if he went to her
mum's house to get like the footage of her mom,
because we find out it's not her mom. It's like
camcordter finished and he played for her to trick her.
Wouldn't it been easier to be like, meet me at
your mom's house because it's already there.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
He wanted the theatrics of the dance studio with the
mirror of use the Hunter, and also, so we know
he's from Pearlers, he wants to put on a show.
Can kind of say James deserves to kill Bella because
he put in the work, He played the long game,
he put in the work. He wasn't sloppy, and he
really he should have. I'm just saying he should have
(45:20):
been successful.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Okay, but then, but then because he was too busy
for making a movie feature film a.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Classic villain thing where the villain spends way too long monologue. Yeah,
he's like, I waited for you, Yeah, life, he's been
way too long monologue.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I've been waiting for you for the last thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And then they end up failing because they spent too
long explaining their evil plan. That's what James does.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
And then Edward comes to the rescue and they have
a fight a vampire off if you were, and the
rest of them slowly get there in their own time.
But then Bella gets pushed into the glass and then
falls down, and then James reaches for her arms and
bit bites it. So he bites an arm.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
And in this world, so every vampire universe has its
own rules of how you become a vampire, like in
a lot of different vampire law and this is the
from the original Dracula book, is like the vampire has
to drink from you, and then you have to drink
from them, and then your body has to die, and
then you have to be reborn as a vampire. That's
just vampire fact from the origin story from Transylvania, which
(46:22):
Emily has learned in the last year is a real place.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
You can call after that, we're not even talking about that.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Or roads lead back to that. In this particular universe,
vampirism happens via the venom that all vampires have coated
over their teeth. So anyone who is bitten, no matter
who drinks blood or who does what, as soon as
you're bitten, you start turning into a vampire, which is
also the Lauren Sinners coming full of this l except Sinners.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's like, you can literally maul the person and you
will still be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, well know that it has to be a biten sinner.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
So James bites Bella. They defeat James, but Bella is
like now turning right.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
So Carla is like, Edward, you have to do it
because I'll kill her if I try to suck the
venom man. So it was like, I've got this, sucks,
starts sucking in the vendom and then Carl's like, I
think you got it, you got it, Edward stop, winded
bout Edward stop, and then her like I start rolling.
That scared me so much as a kid.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, I was like, Edward stop. Do you know Kristin Stewart,
Everyone's like, oh, she looks so gross in that scene.
She looks ugly, and there's a lot of there was
a lot of like kind of pushback at the time
that this actress didn't look beautiful in this moment. I
was like, she's literally dying. Give her a break, Kristian
Suward's not there to be pretty. She's very much said,
she's a serious actress. She was playing the part of
a woman who was dying horrible death.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
And then the screen goes to black and we're like,
did Edward stop? What happened? And then the next scene
is like she's in hospital. She's in a hospital bed,
and she wakes up and Edward's sleeping on the couch
even though rampires, I'm in to sleep. So I don't
know what he was doing there. Was he pretending to sleep?
Speaker 4 (47:55):
He was just resting his eyes mm sounds fake sounds performative, okay,
performan sleep.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
I think he was just nervous to see her, so
he was like, I'm gonna pretend to be asleep. Renee
comes to hospital to see Bella, her daughter, so she
obviously cut her honey in short, I'm sure she was
very upset about that.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
She's like, oh, the girl got to my daughter. She
only died. That's I guess.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I'm sorry. I have to go back to Washington. Yeah,
last place I want to be. And then she's like,
we bought a new house and there's new other place.
Come live with us. I want you to live with us.
And then Edward's still sleeping on the couch.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Well, yeah, because he's pretending to be asleep so that
Renee and Bella can have their private moment.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Okay, I wouldn't. I would have been wide awake.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
And Bella has broken legs and broken limbs and everything
from the throw.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
So yeah, she's got a moon boot on.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah. Yeah, so she's in a bad spot. And that's
when she Edward like wants to not be with her
anymore pretty much bright because she's so badly hurt, and
she was like, no, I want to be with you anyway.
And then they go to prom and they have this
there's almost this moment that Edward is kind of like
leaning Bella down he and she thinks that he's going
because she's already made the decision that she wants to
be a vampire.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, which I even Jacob tried to interject he also
came to prom, yeah yeah, and he was like dump
him and she was like no, and then Jacob's like
all right, and then they lives.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
She's talking a big game for a woman who's wearing
a gross prom.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Dress with a cardigan.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Your boyfriend really killed you and that too.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah. I was more upset with the car, but I liked.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I liked how they get in and they're like, we're
too cool for this, Let's go outside. Yeah, and then
they had that like slow dance moment outside, which is
also similar to Cinderella story, which is also similar to
cas Burn.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Wendy Yeah, and also the original Castle Love story. That's
the thing. At the end of the day. I think
Catherine Hardwick was trying to make this like indie drama,
and she did to an extent, but at the end
of the day, it is still a teen romance and
that's why it had to finish at prom with them
having a dance and having this moment and Edward pretending
to bite her neck colorious, and then her like accepting
(49:50):
death in that moment even though she's seventeen. There's no
idea what's happening. And then Edward's saying that he wasn't
going to bite her, but they were going to continue
to be together.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Well a little tease.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, it's very exciting, and then the stakes are so
high because then we cut to Victoria right, Yeah, she's
the last thing we see with her iconic red hair,
and then that actress was replaced by Bryce Stellis Howard
brutal movies are brutal. Bryce how she was great. But
they then once the movie blew up in such a
huge way, then all of a sudden, they're like, what,
we have a bigger budget, We're gonna hire bigger actors,
(50:20):
We're gonna have bigger sets. And that's when it became
this whole, big, glossy franchise and people were replaced. But yeah, Twilight,
what a what a trip down memory line?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I want to watch it again, even though I just
watched it last week.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
There's never enough. There's never enough, never enough, Twilight.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
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