September 25, 2025 • 9 mins
Jones Angell, play-by-play voice of the Tar Heels, joins the show to talk about the Tar Heels early season struggles and tell you why he believes that Gio Lopez is performing poorly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One team though, bone that will be you know, relaxing
a little bit more than usual is the tar Heels.
They're on a bye week this week. They will have
Clemson next week in a something's got to give matchup, right,
Both programs, you know, need a spark, and one of
them will get it. Right now, it is time to
(00:20):
talk to the voice of the unc tar Heels, our
guy Jones Angel, to look forward maybe a little bit
to the Clemson game, but also to discuss what went
down unfortunately in Orlando. Jones, what's going on, man, how
are you holding up well?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Doing great? Guys? Good to talk with you. I love
the Ryder Cup, man, it is my favorite non like
tar Heel event of the year. So I'm fired up.
I'm looking forward to that. I'm going to be up
at seven o'clock tomorrow with the TV on ready to
go for that alternate shot. I'm pumped for that. But
from the Tario perspective, obviously he's got a lot of
(00:58):
work to do and this important stretch for him, they
got they gotta figure things out, guys, I mean, particularly
on that offensive side, and not that the defense was perfect,
because it was not. But I do think this past weekend.
The defense gave Carolina a chance to win the game
early in the game through about the first half. But man,
the Tarios are just struggling to get any consistency on
(01:21):
the offensive side. And that's not the only problem, but
I do think that is the problem one a right
now for the Heels, is it get more consistent offensively
and figure out how to move the ball, hold the
ball a little bit so you're defense is out there forever,
and obviously put some more points on the board so
that that'll be job one here over these what has
(01:42):
occurred already this week and then leading up to next
weekend when Clemson comes to town.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Jones, why do you think it's been such a struggle
for Go Lopez so far?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Man? That's the million dollar question, isn't it? And and
certainly you hate the Goo is injured in that game
against UCF. It was reported or earlier this week, although
nothing official has been said by Carolina that it is
not a season ending injury, but that he is likely
going to miss some time. But it has been a struggle, guys,
for Geo to this point. And I think the curious
(02:14):
thing is if you go back and you and you
really watch the plays and you watch the action, there's
some stuff there. It's not like it's not as though
Carolina is getting covered up and just as nobody available
on every single play, there's some plays to be made
that just aren't being made right now. And so whether
that is a comfort level, whether that is you know,
(02:38):
just getting there to Chapel Hill in late May early
June and trying to really learn the full offense and
just get I'll use that we're comfortable again in it,
whether that's getting to know your receivers, whether that's things
are just moving fast for him right now, whatever it
may be, I don't know, but it is something that
(02:59):
is obvious. He has not played as well as he
would like and and certainly he assuming that he does
return healthy at some point in this season and is
back out there, it's an area that Carolina just has
to improve. I do think guys, the big question now is,
assuming Geo can't go for a couple of games, you
(03:20):
know how Carolina handles that position. You certainly have Max Johnson,
who is a veteran college quarterback and has been solid
in his appearances. There are some limitations there for for
Max due to some injuries in the past and just
his playing style. Then you after that, you're you're going
to two true freshmen or the next two guys on
(03:43):
the top chart for the Tarios, both very talented in
Tory Newkirk, who's up from the Virginia Beach area, and
then Bryce Baker from from right there in the Kernersville area,
North Carolina. You know how the Heels handle that position. Obviously,
we'll we'll have a bright spotlight on it here over
the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Jones, do you feel like like you do have a
situation with this interesting schedule quirk where you have the
bye week Clemson and then another bye week, you do
have like a lot of time to kind of work
on stuff. Whatever happens in the Clemson game, there's that's
a lot of you know, kind of downtime and practice time,
which I think this team needs. Do you look at
it and feel like maybe you do like, hey, there's
(04:21):
a lot of room to grow, you know with that
practice time, or are you worried that, man, this team's
just it's not going to be where y'all want it
to be until you get the influx of talent in
the next classes.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think The answer is probably a little bit of both, right.
I mean, I do think this team certainly can get
better than it has been. And I do think practice time,
particularly with a good staff and a head coach who
knows what he's doing, you would use that, you would
assume that practice time is going to be beneficial. And
(04:56):
I think also there's a question, you know, what is
the what are the main goals of that practice time.
Are you looking at younger guys to say, hey, look
we need to go ahead and fast track some of
these younger guys to start getting some more snaps, or
is it a we really feel like we've got the
right core of guys that are playing. We just need
to hammer home some of the things that we're trying
(05:16):
to do, or we need to tweak some things that
we're trying to do to better put them in position
to be successful, you know, whatever that might be. You
do have a little more time to do that here
over these next couple of weeks, because, as you said,
the really strange schedule that the Tarrios are dealing with,
where you go buy or opened a game open date
and then you have seven consecutive weeks of games after that,
(05:39):
so that is one part of it. But I think also,
you know, Caroliner does feel like it's recruiting very well.
The Tarios certainly are going to be active in the
portal as everybody will be again after this season, and
they feel like they can in total just upgrade the
talent on their team, because everybody's trying to upgrade the
talent on their team every single season, and so I
(06:01):
think the answer is probably somewhere in the middle. But
for this year, there's only one answer, and that's who
do you have on your team currently that you can
best put in possession to win? Are you doing that currently?
Do you need to change some of your approach? All
of these things I think are are heavily being discussed
and figured out right now.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Jones. I know we'll talk more about them next week
and the lead up to the game, but just right now,
what's your your far off views of Clemson and how
shocked are you at the start that they are off
to as well?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well? You know, Clinton has been so good for so
long that that anytime you have a rough patch is
going to be surprising. I think what is still a
no doubter or is that Clinston has a lot of
good players on its team, and they've got some guys
who have both are young and talented, and they have
guys who have proven it before. And say what you
(06:54):
will about Kid Klubnick, he has had success against the Tarios,
for sure, and so he has played very well against
the Tarioles in the past. And so Clemson has pretty
plenty of good players, They've got an excellent head coach,
and they're going to be angry and they've got extra
time to think about it. So that that is all
a dangerous recipe if you're the opponent, and so for Carolina,
(07:18):
who's also you have some of those same pieces working
for it as you lead into this game next weekend.
I honestly think, of course Clemson is important because it's
the opponent, and you know they're going to be good
and fired up and they're gonna play well. Carolina's got
enough issues right now that the Tarios neem to worry
about themselves and how can they get better right now?
(07:40):
How can they best put their guys in position? Are
they playing the right guys? You know, all the stuff
we just talked about. I respect that to me is
the focus.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I respect that bone Jones is not gonna throw stones,
all right, Angel, that's throwing stones Angel, all right. Jones,
by the way, hey, I trust that you will get
a will blow up and frame a copy of Bill
Belichick and Jordan Hudson's US Weekly.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Am I correct in that?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
What I will say, guys is that is not a
new photo shoot. That was obviously from an NFL event
back in February. Because I know Coach Belichick caught a
little heat out there for why are you doing this
when when your teams.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
There's no separate shoot just for that magazine. That is
a good point.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, this was months ago. I don't think either one
of those two people even participated in the article. But
look that we've talked about it before, like he is
a different level of celebrity, and so there's just some
stuff that's gonna come that you have to deal with
and manage. Is it a great look when you just
didn't have a great week last week and are struggling
here in the first month. Absolutely not. But again, this
(08:47):
isn't something that he set down for and it was like, yes,
I think now it's the right time to do this.
So I think it's more kind of comes with the
territory a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yep, that's true. That's a good point. We didn't bring
that up earlier when we talked about it. Are Jones,
you are the man. We will talk to you next week.
So I was gonna ask your bye week plans, but
you already told me. Man, it sounds like you're a
friend of the TV for Ryder Cup all weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Oh baby, I'm posting up in the morning guys all
week and long, and my son's got to me Au
basketball a little bit on Saturday, so I'll be keeping
up with football and Ryder Cup on my phone that day.
But man, I'm ready for a great sports weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Enjoy it, man, enjoy it. Enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Thanks, guys, Start you soon.
One team though, bone that will be you know, relaxing
a little bit more than usual is the tar Heels.
They're on a bye week this week. They will have
Clemson next week in a something's got to give matchup, right,
Both programs, you know, need a spark, and one of
them will get it. Right now, it is time to
(00:20):
talk to the voice of the unc tar Heels, our
guy Jones Angel, to look forward maybe a little bit
to the Clemson game, but also to discuss what went
down unfortunately in Orlando. Jones, what's going on, man, how
are you holding up well?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Doing great? Guys? Good to talk with you. I love
the Ryder Cup, man, it is my favorite non like
tar Heel event of the year. So I'm fired up.
I'm looking forward to that. I'm going to be up
at seven o'clock tomorrow with the TV on ready to
go for that alternate shot. I'm pumped for that. But
from the Tario perspective, obviously he's got a lot of
(00:58):
work to do and this important stretch for him, they
got they gotta figure things out, guys, I mean, particularly
on that offensive side, and not that the defense was perfect,
because it was not. But I do think this past weekend.
The defense gave Carolina a chance to win the game
early in the game through about the first half. But man,
the Tarios are just struggling to get any consistency on
(01:21):
the offensive side. And that's not the only problem, but
I do think that is the problem one a right
now for the Heels, is it get more consistent offensively
and figure out how to move the ball, hold the
ball a little bit so you're defense is out there forever,
and obviously put some more points on the board so
that that'll be job one here over these what has
(01:42):
occurred already this week and then leading up to next
weekend when Clemson comes to town.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Jones, why do you think it's been such a struggle
for Go Lopez so far?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Man? That's the million dollar question, isn't it? And and
certainly you hate the Goo is injured in that game
against UCF. It was reported or earlier this week, although
nothing official has been said by Carolina that it is
not a season ending injury, but that he is likely
going to miss some time. But it has been a struggle, guys,
for Geo to this point. And I think the curious
(02:14):
thing is if you go back and you and you
really watch the plays and you watch the action, there's
some stuff there. It's not like it's not as though
Carolina is getting covered up and just as nobody available
on every single play, there's some plays to be made
that just aren't being made right now. And so whether
that is a comfort level, whether that is you know,
(02:38):
just getting there to Chapel Hill in late May early
June and trying to really learn the full offense and
just get I'll use that we're comfortable again in it,
whether that's getting to know your receivers, whether that's things
are just moving fast for him right now, whatever it
may be, I don't know, but it is something that
(02:59):
is obvious. He has not played as well as he
would like and and certainly he assuming that he does
return healthy at some point in this season and is
back out there, it's an area that Carolina just has
to improve. I do think guys, the big question now is,
assuming Geo can't go for a couple of games, you
(03:20):
know how Carolina handles that position. You certainly have Max Johnson,
who is a veteran college quarterback and has been solid
in his appearances. There are some limitations there for for
Max due to some injuries in the past and just
his playing style. Then you after that, you're you're going
to two true freshmen or the next two guys on
(03:43):
the top chart for the Tarios, both very talented in
Tory Newkirk, who's up from the Virginia Beach area, and
then Bryce Baker from from right there in the Kernersville area,
North Carolina. You know how the Heels handle that position. Obviously,
we'll we'll have a bright spotlight on it here over
the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Jones, do you feel like like you do have a
situation with this interesting schedule quirk where you have the
bye week Clemson and then another bye week, you do
have like a lot of time to kind of work
on stuff. Whatever happens in the Clemson game, there's that's
a lot of you know, kind of downtime and practice time,
which I think this team needs. Do you look at
it and feel like maybe you do like, hey, there's
(04:21):
a lot of room to grow, you know with that
practice time, or are you worried that, man, this team's
just it's not going to be where y'all want it
to be until you get the influx of talent in
the next classes.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think The answer is probably a little bit of both, right.
I mean, I do think this team certainly can get
better than it has been. And I do think practice time,
particularly with a good staff and a head coach who
knows what he's doing, you would use that, you would
assume that practice time is going to be beneficial. And
(04:56):
I think also there's a question, you know, what is
the what are the main goals of that practice time.
Are you looking at younger guys to say, hey, look
we need to go ahead and fast track some of
these younger guys to start getting some more snaps, or
is it a we really feel like we've got the
right core of guys that are playing. We just need
to hammer home some of the things that we're trying
(05:16):
to do, or we need to tweak some things that
we're trying to do to better put them in position
to be successful, you know, whatever that might be. You
do have a little more time to do that here
over these next couple of weeks, because, as you said,
the really strange schedule that the Tarrios are dealing with,
where you go buy or opened a game open date
and then you have seven consecutive weeks of games after that,
(05:39):
so that is one part of it. But I think also,
you know, Caroliner does feel like it's recruiting very well.
The Tarios certainly are going to be active in the
portal as everybody will be again after this season, and
they feel like they can in total just upgrade the
talent on their team, because everybody's trying to upgrade the
talent on their team every single season, and so I
(06:01):
think the answer is probably somewhere in the middle. But
for this year, there's only one answer, and that's who
do you have on your team currently that you can
best put in possession to win? Are you doing that currently?
Do you need to change some of your approach? All
of these things I think are are heavily being discussed
and figured out right now.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Jones. I know we'll talk more about them next week
and the lead up to the game, but just right now,
what's your your far off views of Clemson and how
shocked are you at the start that they are off
to as well?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well? You know, Clinton has been so good for so
long that that anytime you have a rough patch is
going to be surprising. I think what is still a
no doubter or is that Clinston has a lot of
good players on its team, and they've got some guys
who have both are young and talented, and they have
guys who have proven it before. And say what you
(06:54):
will about Kid Klubnick, he has had success against the Tarios,
for sure, and so he has played very well against
the Tarioles in the past. And so Clemson has pretty
plenty of good players, They've got an excellent head coach,
and they're going to be angry and they've got extra
time to think about it. So that that is all
a dangerous recipe if you're the opponent, and so for Carolina,
(07:18):
who's also you have some of those same pieces working
for it as you lead into this game next weekend.
I honestly think, of course Clemson is important because it's
the opponent, and you know they're going to be good
and fired up and they're gonna play well. Carolina's got
enough issues right now that the Tarios neem to worry
about themselves and how can they get better right now?
(07:40):
How can they best put their guys in position? Are
they playing the right guys? You know, all the stuff
we just talked about. I respect that to me is
the focus.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I respect that bone Jones is not gonna throw stones,
all right, Angel, that's throwing stones Angel, all right. Jones,
by the way, hey, I trust that you will get
a will blow up and frame a copy of Bill
Belichick and Jordan Hudson's US Weekly.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Am I correct in that?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
What I will say, guys is that is not a
new photo shoot. That was obviously from an NFL event
back in February. Because I know Coach Belichick caught a
little heat out there for why are you doing this
when when your teams.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
There's no separate shoot just for that magazine. That is
a good point.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, this was months ago. I don't think either one
of those two people even participated in the article. But
look that we've talked about it before, like he is
a different level of celebrity, and so there's just some
stuff that's gonna come that you have to deal with
and manage. Is it a great look when you just
didn't have a great week last week and are struggling
here in the first month. Absolutely not. But again, this
(08:47):
isn't something that he set down for and it was like, yes,
I think now it's the right time to do this.
So I think it's more kind of comes with the
territory a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yep, that's true. That's a good point. We didn't bring
that up earlier when we talked about it. Are Jones,
you are the man. We will talk to you next week.
So I was gonna ask your bye week plans, but
you already told me. Man, it sounds like you're a
friend of the TV for Ryder Cup all weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Oh baby, I'm posting up in the morning guys all
week and long, and my son's got to me Au
basketball a little bit on Saturday, so I'll be keeping
up with football and Ryder Cup on my phone that day.
But man, I'm ready for a great sports weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Enjoy it, man, enjoy it. Enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Thanks, guys, Start you soon.
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