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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And one of the most passionate guys when it comes
to the sport of college football that you can watch
or listen to is Josh Payt The Josh pay Show.
And he is nice enough to join us to talk
a little college football, and we got to start talking
about these week one matchups more and more.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Josh, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm okay. I just don't know how many times I
have to tell you guys that the audacity to be
talking about the National Football League when we've got punter
competitions happening in week two of fall camps across college
football is just mind boggling to me. Knowing I'm on hold,
knowing I'm sitting right here, I'm unmuted. I'm ready to go.
How has your spring and summer been?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
By the way, we're getting ready for Farmageddon in a
couple of weeks, aren't we all.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, I talked to my mom the other day.
I didn't even know you knew where Iowa State was.
Are we doing anything special for far Mageddon this year? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That's a great mother right there, an amazing mother.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What do you do for Farma?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Again? I don't know, don't well? If you're over there,
I mean you got a normal kickoff, which means what
the nine am kickoff around here for us? For the
ninety five percent of the Charlotte metro that has no
idea of what we're talking about. By the way, Kansas
State and Iowa State, just a bunch of farmers back
in the day, decided to name their rivalry game Farmageddon.
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And now they're going to play it in Dublin, not Georgia,
but Dublin, Ireland. And they're going to get a three
thirty in the afternoon kickoff there, which means nine am
on the West coast. And Batson Info tells me if
you subtract three hours, that means six am kickoff on
the West coast. And that's how we're going to kick
off our college football season. Oh, by the way, we're
gonna call it Week zero. So now that we've got
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all that out of the way, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Oh, it's beautiful, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I want to ask you about some of these specific
matchups in Week one.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Work.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We're easily close enough to do it. Hell, we've been
obsessing over this Clemson LSU game for a while. Now,
what's your feeling about Clemson LSU. And by the way,
I love that Brian Kelly dropped the Little Death Valley
Junior just to give us, you know, give us even
more build up to this game.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What are your thoughts on this matchup?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, Brian Kelly seems keenly aware of what's being said,
just all encompassing. He seems very aware of what moves
the needle, which is, you know, it's one way to
lead a program. Don't know if it's the way I'd
lead it, but it's one way to lead a program.
So my feel on the game is it's funny in
a sea of new quarterbacks out there across the country,
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the two I would say, the two most steady, proven
commodities are actually going against each other in this game.
I think it is very very imperative for LSU to
get off to a good start. Now, ideally that means
winning this game, but there is also the world where
they lose thirty to twenty seven and you come out
of it saying, hey, man, Clemson's good, but LSU's good too.
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The reason I say that is we did a segment
on the show last night where before I asked the
question before Halloween, which of the top ten teams will
have two losses and LSU's loaded up. They got like
five losable games before Halloween, so they really need to
get off to a hot start. The big question down
there in Baton Rouge in the early portions of fall
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camp has been offensive line attrition. Not that they've had injuries,
but they're backfilling I think four departures on the old
line now. In spring, the feedback I was getting was
we actually feel pretty good about our offensive tackles. They've
gotten into fall camp and I'm not saying they're hitting
the panic button, but there's been a lot of up
and down. There's been a lot of fluctuation in the
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feedback and intel I've gotten. So anyway, that always leads
me to ask the next question, and that is, if
everything is not clicking, can you win a game twenty
to sixteen if you need to in week one? And
I'm not totally sure. Albeit I love Blake Baker knew
he's a second year defensive coordinator down there. I respect him,
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I don't know if I'm prepared to trust him to
go on the road and hold Clemson under three touchdowns.
So they've got a click that offense has got to click,
They got to be more balanced. They couldn't run the
ball for anything last year, So those are the early
things I'm watching. And then with Clemson, it's the same thing.
You had a team that couldn't run the ball last year,
so you know they're going to be committed to it
to start this year. And that was one of your
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points of vulnerability, not being up to the Clemson standard
against the run last year. So that's the aspect that
I'm watching first and foremost in.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
This game, Josh, another mammoth matchup Week one, Notre Dame Miami.
I've had a really hard time trying to figure out
where the lead is in this game. What are your
thoughts on that game? What we may see Sunday Night
Week one.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's one of those themes again, just like with LSU,
where we're talking about, in this case, a brand new
defensive coordinator and the total dereliction of duty of Miami
last year to sort of waste cam Ward's season by
not being able to stop the other team from score
and forty. So they will be quantumly improved defensively. Number one.
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Is that true? I think it is because I said it.
But Number two is that visible. Week one. Notre Dame
I think will be able to throw the ball better
than they could last year. CJ. Carr I expect to
win that job, but that's still a very very wide
open quarterback competition. But the Week one thing again which
has always been true in college football, is more games
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get lost than they get one in Week one, so
critical mistakes, that's what you got to watch for. This
is a huge spot for Miami. I mean it's a
huge spot because this is going to be a sold
out game for them. They don't play many of those
at home. One of the last like true sellout, huge
buzz games they had down there was Notre Dame in
twenty seventeen and they won that one. And last year,
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remember they went on the road and they dominated Florida
on the road in Week one, So a hot start
would be really good for them. I also just think
about Carson Beck. This time last year, Carson Beck is
at Georgia. Carson Beck is projected to be the top
quarterback in the country. He's the Heisman favorite. He's projected
to go top ten in the draft. Think about saying
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a year from now, Carson Beck will still be in college.
He won't be at Georgia and no one will be
talking about in preseason. Well that's the situation. Yeah, And
I just I don't think that anyone should have ever
been quite as high on him as they were, But
now I don't think people should be as low on
him as they are. And that's the guy, more so
maybe than anyone in the country that's got an opportunity
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to make a statement week one, because if they beat
Notre Dame in Week one, Notre Dame is sitting there
parked and everyone's top five. That's a big deal from Miami.
But that's a big deal for Carson Beck too.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, big deal for the ACC too.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That game, those two games we just talked about are
big deals obviously for the ACC. Josh Pate is with
us hosted a Josh Pate College Football Show at Josh
Pate CFB on Twitter and you'll find the link.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He's on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The show's on YouTube and it is great Sunday, Tuesday
and Thursday nights. Josh, this Texas Ohio State game could
be a historic one if they're also like they are
in the coaches Pole one and two. It's going to
be a one to two matchup. In the AP Pole
and man, that is historic. Do you and the Josh
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Paid personal rankings, Like, do you think this game is
between the two the teams you expect to be the
two best teams this year in college football?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Well, as you guys may or may not be aware,
the JP Poles does drop tomorrow, so we will very
shortly find that out now. In fairness, I am looking
at my screen right now, and I don't think it
would be an unfair assumption to say that this is
the one and two team, not in rankings solely, but
also in power ratings world. So yeah, I think we
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have that. I don't know what that really means in
Week one number one, because I think a lot of
teams are compressed at the top more so than usual
in college football. And number two, there's so much unknown
with both of them. I mean, a lot of Ohio
State defense went to the draft, all out of their
offense went to the draft. A quarterback there copy and
paste everything I just said. For Texas, I'm really curious
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about Ohio State's ability to run the ball. They lost
Henderson and Judkins to the draft, and they got two
guys there that they feel okay about. But that's fall
camp stuff. Past the time you're not even practicing in
anything other than the shells, and so I really am
excited to see them against a revamped Texas defense in front.
You've had back to back cycles where Texas has had
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to replace their interior defensive linemen, which, by the way,
is always something to watch in college, all the way
back to Saban at Alabama, Urban Meyer at Florida. Those
teams that were really loaded up. They can withstand one
layer of draft attrition, but when the draft attacks the
same areas of the roster in back to back drafts
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that third year, that's where you tend to be very vulnerable.
So I'm looking at Texas. They had to go to
Syracuse and get a defensive tackle transfer who is very good,
but you're looking at it and you're circling names like
that and that could better work out, just like with Oregon,
they took two offensive linemen transfers that just have to
work out for them this year. So I'm looking at
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Ohio State. Do they expose something on the interior of
the Texas defensive line in Week one? That's a question
mark noticed, by the way, and good on me for
talking two minutes on this game and not even saying
arch Manning yet. I've been practicing that. It's tough, very tough,
but I've been working on it, and so hey, arts Manning.
Arts Manning's biggest games this year are Ohio State, but
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that's on the road. Georgia, but that's on the road. Florida,
but that's on the road. Oh you, that's neutral site.
He didn't get any of his big games at home.
So just let's keep an eye on that. He could
be the Heisman favorite and all of our concerns are
quelled and they're up thirty to ten in the fourth quarter.
Or it could go the way that the real world
normally goes and there are a lot of bumps in
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the road.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Awful Announcing has a piece up on the Josh Paichow
this morning actually about your take on John Gruden possibly
becoming a college football coach down the line. Now, Josh,
not that you need my backing on this, but I
heard from a source that he indeed will be a
college football coach relatively soon. What was your uh, what
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was your take that Awful Announcing had there about your
your Gruden thing?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I always went anytime you tell me they've got a
piece up about me. I'm gonna have to go read
it now. I think that so. I when he said
that at Georgia, it was him publicly confirming what a
lot of people who have heard him stay behind the scenes,
and that is he's not done coaching. He wants to coach.
I think he wants to coach college football. So the
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knee jerk reaction I noticed from a lot of people
was to sort of laugh at that, And that's okay.
I felt that way when Belichick took the North Carolina job,
but he took the North Carolina job. I view John
Gruden as a more serious candidate to win in college
football than I do Bill Belichick. And now gruden't a
fraction of the NFL coach that Belichick was. So where
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do I arrive at that conclusion? Well, to me, what
it takes to win in college football is you've got
to be able to hire a dynamite staff, which I
think John Gruden could do. You got to be able
to acquire talent. In the NFL that means something different
than college, but I think he could do it in
college as well. He understands cat management and all that
because he coached in the NFL. I think that you've
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got to be able to develop, which goes back to
the staff you put together. But the most important thing
right now in college is you've got to ignite a
fan base when you get hired. Now, this is something
Belichick did ten out of ten on that front, and
John Gruden would do. I mean, think about waking up
tomorrow or maybe six months from now, the Arkansas job
is open, and they hired John Gruden in northwest Arkansas.
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With the Tyson Chicken money up there and the Walmart
money and the JV Hunt money, all those enterprises are
located in that same part of the country. Think about
what that does in an era where money has to
be real now, not monopoly money anymore. And so you
really got to raise money, and you really got a fundraised,
and you really got to do it at a high level.
That ignites a fan base that has been very, very
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much in a malaise lately. I'm just asking what box
does he not check that it would take to win
in college football? Forget about fifty thousand feet, like, get
on the ground for a second. What is it takes
to win in college football that John Gruden doesn't possess
the ability to do so. I don't think it's a
matter of this. I think it's a matter of when.
And I think my bigger question is not which program
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would be willing to hire him. My question is which
one would he be willing to work for, because that's
what it's going to come down to.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Wow, I've heard fascinating I've heard from some in the know,
not that I'm a reporter, but that Florida State is
the job to watch for him.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I would not at all be shocked by that. I
think that if that job came open and they called him,
there would be no need for a second call.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And then you also love the state of Florida too,
so would they go out of say, then you could
get Gruden and Belichick head to head in the ACCA.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Josh Man, can you can you just can you do
me a favor? I know this is unprofessional. Could you
just say that sentence one more time for me?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Gruden versus Belichick in acc football?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Baby, don't tell me it's impossible, Kevin Garnett, If this
be anything, it's possible.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Moment, Hey, Tobacco road tuck rule rematch? Oh man, Oh
that could be good. Right right in to battle. Well
not well, actually no, because Florida State's not tobacco.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, work shot that a little more about work shot
that payt I'm not in good season four. The game
was the game could be held on. That's right, man,
of course, obviously, all right, man, first mistake of the day.
Keep up the good work, man, everybody. Check out Josh
Pate on Twitter, slash x at Josh Pate CFB. Check
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out his show on YouTube Sunday Tuesday, Thursday night, eight
o'clock Eastern time. Uh see you, hey, thanks so much
for coming on man, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Guys,