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Speaker 1 (00:01):
When come on sty oh is you guys are the
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bone, No, no, stop porking. You and I are a
couple eating a lady in the tramp. You're the lady
on the tram. Yeah, come on, come on baby, I.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Was Boopy Boopy McLean man. It's a great name.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh the bud.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Oh yeah, welcome in. It's the macam Bone Show.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
On this it's not Victory Tuesday, but I guess it's
victory whek still until we start to focus on the jets.
Good morning t Bone. Here we will be joined by
the esteemed Chris McClain here Troy, who flies in like
he's jim nantz now whenever he wants to hold want
to hear. Momentarily, we have Fiddy running the operation here,
a jam packed show, plenty of stuff. Jake Delom Panther
(01:07):
legend on the show, and also another Panther legend. It's
former teammate teammate right, I do believe for a year.
JJ Jansen also joins the radio program in the eight
o'clock hour, Mac, I was running down of material till
you got yourself set up over there?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
What's not happening?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I am, JJ's that old two thousand and nine, right,
so Jake, I didn't they had to cross path right
right right at the end of Jake.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh man, oh man, JJ, you old as hell, Baby,
I didn't even know you were that old, I think, right.
Let me just double check that. All right, that's interesting,
By the way, I kind of like this setup, Bone,
I'd like to do it this way. Fiddy rolls out
a processed blue carpet for me. JJ was there for
I think it was a season with Jake at least interesting.
I'm sure it didn't get it wasn't It wasn't Jake's
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best for JJ. I'd like to do this. I like
the way that went, Bone, I come in late, you
staw up, and then a big intro of me is
Fitty rolls out a processed blue carpet in the doorway
and I walk in. I felt kind of important, Bone,
you were setting the table and I just come in, Baby.
I just need a little more fanfare, though, little more fanfare,
little lead off hitter for you. Right, you're the number
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two guy. Yeah, let me get in. Whoa hey, now,
let me get into baby that way. Well, actually, I
was coming from the bathroom so it's funny you put
it that way. Bone, I have just I gotta tell you,
I think I'm happier today than I was yesterday. Like,
it's just it feels good to be relevant, and just
you listen to what people are saying. You listen to
what the media is saying. And of course the only
reason they're talking about us is because they paid attention
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because we eat Dallas. But they actually talked about us,
and there are some people saying really nice things about us.
Panther social media just trolled steven A's cowboy prediction so bad,
and he he gave him credit for it. There was
a lot of fun stuff yesterday. A lot of advanced
stats that are fun. There are some advanced stats that
aren't that fun. Like that's the part of like being like,
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we're progressing, Bone, but we're in the middle of the progression.
So there are areas of his team like pass rush
and Mike Jackson struggling, Like, there are areas of his
team clearly that aren't there yet. But man, there's some
things coming together. It's just fun. Football's fun again, Bone,
you on me. We're dancing. We're dancing so much.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
People probably tired of us dancing, we're dancing, we're montaging.
It feels like we're we're back a decade ago. We're
trying to find Stelenia this morning, like we're doing a
lot of different things here to sort of don't remember
twenty fifteen. Where's jam Will he be here today?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I feel like we're back in time. You're mentioned in Statsmack,
and I'm sure you've got plenty lined up over there.
But there's a stat that Greg Rosenthal tweeted out yesterday
about where the Panthers DVOA ranks defensively. I mean, who
would have ever guessed from where they were a year
ago to where they are right now?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You're talking overall these because I feel so they were
third run defense. To make sure I got it correct here,
Willie p was quote tweeting it last did they say
they were? Were they six overall and dv was six
over you guys want to double check.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I saw third run defense in DVOA, which is an
efficiency like a per play efficiency through six weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Use me yea either third in DVOA through six weeks.
That's all the numbers he's saying run or overall defense.
Un I think it's yeah, it just says run defense
to third in DVA after last year through six yes, yeah,
I response, no matter what the number is, for the
Panthers to be at that level through six weeks. If
you would have said that mad in Bold Predictions in
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the summertime, we would have.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Said are you are you on the drugs? Like what
is wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Or I whoever would have said that first of all,
some of the like someone probably would have said what
the hell's DVOA mean? But we would have been like,
why would you ever assume that defense last year, no
matter who's back, no matter who's signed, would be that
high through six games.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
No, that's that. That would be too crazy for Bold predictions,
Like you're supposed to be crazy with bold predictions, but
you would be like, come, no, no, this is bold.
This ain't drunk predictions. But it really has been spent.
They are what they're tenth overall in run defense yep,
and it's getting better and better. And again seventy three
yards allowed, just so you know, it's not the last
two week. Shall seventy three Obviously the last two weeks
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are the big ones. But seventy three yards allowed over
the last five games. The outlier. The outlier is the
crappy one is the one. I'm not saying Atlanta didn't
have some success until they had to abandon it. I'm
not saying New England did and hit some runs because
of DJ Johnson. But like just last five weeks, seventy
three yards a game. That's an elite level. I shouldn't
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say leak. That's a very good level of run defense.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And then you watch the Monday Night football games that
we'll talk about here in the first segment. You watch
Monday Night last night, the first game, Atlanta's offense, especially
in the first half, and what they did to Buffalo,
who is banged up, but what they did to Buffalo,
how hard Beijeon is to bring down, how good London is.
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And then you realize the Panthers allowed zero points to
that team. And you watch them when they're on and
it makes you go, yeah, this pad their defense that
outing there. The more you watch Atlanta, the more you go, wow,
what an impressive it was impressed ave at the time
when you went back and go, man, they really shut
down all those weapons in the football.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yet they did man Bjeon Robinson. Hell of a game.
You're no Rico daddels Son, but you came one yard
short of the full Rico. He had two hundred and
thirty eight tony yards. Rico had two hundred and thirty nine. Yes,
I was watching that all game hoping he didn't get
to Rico's number. He's hard to bring down, man. He
was unbelievable. He's got a level of explosion to go
with his power, right like Rico doesn't have quite that
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level of explosion. He ended up with one seventy and
sixty eight yards receiving Drake London, who has been a
little hit or missed this season because of his quarterback.
I'm guessing I don't think it's his fault, Bony, but
my god, he had nine catches for like one forty
eight at halftime and was a foot away from having
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a second touchdown at the end of the game. They
almost were up twenty eight to seven at a half,
but he was just short of that touchdown that final play.
And I also look at it because we played the
Bills in two weeks. I'm also looking at that game,
and as much as it annoys me to see Atlanta
and their stars show out on primetime. I'm watching the
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Bills and saying they ain't at their best right now.
You mentioned there's a barrage of injuries they're dealing with,
and Josh Allen looked like he was pressing at times
last night, like that one interception he threw over the
middle that was classic, like early Josh Allen. That just
forces things. So I would love to get bony that
version of the Bills in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, they have been my Super Bowl pick without question.
I thought it was their time back. I'm not hopping
off that because there's a long way to go. But
I don't like I mean not that I'm a fan of,
just for my prediction. I don't love what I'm seeing
right now. Out of the defense. You're right, Josh Allen
seems like he's trying to do all again rather than
what he's been good at lately is sort of just
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whatever the defense allows, he does whatever he needs to do.
He's forcing stuff like that flip play last night. Also,
he had this flip play now in the arsenal that
he brings out. Sometimes it works, but he goes to
it quite a bit where he's trying to almost Brett
Farvett and flip it. He had a couple of weird plays.
I still think it's the Bills time, but that defense,
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for my prediction, is a little bit troublesome.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Definitely, it ain't their time right now. It's a long
season though, right how many times we see the champion
go through rough trench? Hell, we've seen wild cards be
champs right multiple times, so like this could be the
rough patch. They could write the ship or whatever. But
I'm just noting that in twelve days we will play
a team that is supposed to be great but not
at their best right now. I just want to put
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down on the record. I'm not tipping my hand. I'm
not giving you any predictions, but I'm just saying I
am noting that right now. In the other Monday Night
game last night, because we had two big baseball games,
we had two Monday night games. We also had some
news out of Jets camp that Panther fans are going
to want to hear. In a second, I do want
to mention I watched a lot. I watched the whole
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Falcons Bills game. Bone the other game was on the
other TV. And I'm not going to lie to you.
My ol behind got really tired, so I like the
fact that a Monday night game was ending at about
ten fifteen. So I fell asleep and I did not
see multi viewed last night. I did not see at
the two TVs, Babe, I had. I had the baseball
and the football on going on. Oh, I forgot multiview
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exists outside of Saturday for college football. Baby. But anyway,
Washington lost to the Bears last night. Bears Jake Moody
hits a field goal as time expires, they win twenty
five twenty four. And the Bears, the Panthers, the Commanders,
and the Falcons are all a part of this complete
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log jam in the NFC. Bone, there are only three
teams that have losing records in the NFC right now.
My goodness, there are so so many teams at three
and three. Where we're at three and two, where the
Falcons and Bears are after last week's winning percent wins.
So good luck figuring out bone, who's really really good
in the NFC and who's not good in the NFC
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This and this is the way the NFL wants it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, you're right, they are all types of jam. Minnesota's
in there too. Right now at three and two, then
you have a couple of uh got three four and
two's in the West. Yeah, Mackett, it's crazy that the
Bears are what three bears are? Three and two has mentioned? Yeah,
it is. It is wild, and the Panthers are cuddled
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up nice and snug right in that mix.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You're right, it's it's good. It's good to be involved.
He's just good to be included. You know, it's good
to be invited. I'm having trouble. I need to get
my monocle out. I'm trying to see where are the Saints.
I'm trying to look for it. Well, they all those.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Spencer rowlers playing pretty good football, I will say that.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
But five, they are way.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Down there, sitting in a big old isle of gumbo.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Actually four losing teams, four losing teams because we put
them boys in a losing team category. Here's the deal, man,
this is crazy. Break it down this way, bone the
one game margin between our three and three and the Eagles,
or and the four and the other four and two teams.
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How many teams are in that log jam? So you
have four four and two teams, Eagles, Niners, Seahawks, and Rams.
Then you have Atlanta. Oh no, you have Allions. You
have five for and two teams.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
There, you have Minnesota, Atlanta and Chicago at three and two,
and then you have Us and the Commanders at three
and three. That is ten teams within one game of
each other between three and three and four and two.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's not and then Babe, and then you look at
a two and four team like the Giants, who you know,
they're they're kind of riding the world. I mean, they
lost to the Saints, but they they win on Thursday nights.
The Giants are kind of a dangerous and fourteen there
even if you want to even throw them in the
mix at thing moment. So it is ten teams right
there in that miss completely wild. But you know what's
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good about this mac. It is October fourteenth, and we
are looking at the standings. I know I did not
Tankathon dot com.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I told myself I didn't care about the playoffs, and
then here I am, here, I am, I'm looking at
the standings. But I just thought that was notable, how
crazy that log jam is. And we'll talk about that
as the show goes on. I believe the word playoffs
and whether or not we're supposed to really be talking
about it like a lot of fans are doing on
the text line are we supposed to do that? Are
we supposed to do that? Or not? I do want
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to mention as far as the Jets go, bone, Aaron
Glenn got justin Fields back. He will start again. Sounds
like he tends to start him again this week said
he has been good, but Sunday was not good. What
gave it away? The minus ten total passing gave it away.
We'll do it so and not only so. Looks like
we're getting justin Fields and not Tyrod Taylor. I personally
think they would be better at Tyrod Taylor playing quarterback,
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but we'll let them figure that out down the road.
Also sounds like there'll be no Garrett Wilson, the top
target for justin fields only target. He's got a hyper
extended knee and it sounds like bone. Although it's not
a long term injury reports today sounds like it'll probably
be a couple of games. They have two games before
the bye week, so people in New York seem to
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be thinking they might sit him for these next two games,
but it sounds like he definitely will not be out there,
And I'm going to be point blank period with you here.
I had him penciled in bone for a good day
against Mike Jackson. I'm not gonna lie to you, and yeah, no,
now he will not be out there. I think that
helps us.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
For a team that had minus ten net passing yards
to take away their only real receiving option, yeah, that
cannot be good. Also, my Jets Spidey senses are tingling
off the timing of this as well. He's been very disgruntled.
He's gone after Aaron. He's gone after Aaron Gwenn multiple
times on the sidelines. The trade deadline is not far away.
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The Jets are going to be in fire sale mode.
So part of me does wonder too the timing of this.
Are they also maybe trying to keep him fresh if
they wanted to move him at the deadline.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's just me, Oh man, that's me. Didn't he like
didn't he say nice things about Bryce? He did panther
fans go be on this one now by I just
wonder he's just scruggled, he's mad. The Jets are going nowhere.
Part of me wonders, why are you just trying to
make sure that he's fresh in case you get an
interesting in case you get a big offer the next month,
just wondering that might be the case. It's an interesting
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theory that also will be asked as well, because there's
a lot of Panther fans Bone that they're probably sending
the text right now if you said that. But there's
a lot of Panther fans that want to be buyers
at the trade deadline. They want to get frisky and
for our first time in a while, not sell. But actually,
by should we be thinking that way as Panther fans.
So anyway, that's a conversation. We can have baseball. Last night,
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Bone Seattle beat up on Toronto. They lead that series
to nothing. The notable stuff happened in the Dodger Milwaukee game.
You had one of the most ridiculous plays in recent memory, Bone,
the first ever playoff eight six' two double play where
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the ball is hit the center field By moncie of The.
Dodgers the center fielder for The brewers bobbles it off
the wall but then catches, it so that's a live.
Ball that's not an. Ounce the base runners thought he
caught it. Clean they were tagging up they went back
to tag. Up they got force play at home On
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hernandez and then a force play at third because these
dudes did not know what had really. Happened that was
and The dodgers, one, oh by the, way two to.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
One but that was, insanity. MAN i just mentioned the.
MULTIVIEW i had the sound On Buffalo atlanta at the,
time So i'm watching up on the other screen trying
to figure out momentarily what in the hell just. HAPPENED
i had to go. PUTZ i had to put this
sound on because ALL i was, Doing mac was basically
watching what looked like A baseball three studious episode up.
There i'm, like what in the world they're going to
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the headsets they're SHOW i, SAID i, NEED i.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Need to go check out this baseball.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Sound and THEN i was, like If mac didn't see this,
live how in the six o'clock, Hour, Well i'm glad
you had the. Number how WOULD i properly explain that
play exactly what you did a good job there on that,
one what you, saw and how do you describe?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
IT i had to listen TO mlb network guys talk about.
It they were, showing LIKE i saw the clips somehow
last night because, YEAH i was watching two football. Games
i'm not gonna lie to, you but, YEAH i had
to have that explain to, me and hopefully we explained
that to. You but it was. Crazy also pretty crazy
is the Way Blake snell pitched last. Night this dude
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has been killing it in this, postseason and yesterday was
to be so far for. Him eight innings of one,
hit shutout, baseball and the only base runner he allowed
he then picked off after he got on. Base he
is the first pitcher in a playoff game to face
the minimum amount of hitters through eight innings since Freaking
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Don larson forty eight years. Ago bonie or, no, No
i'll take it back sixty eight years. Ago he did
it in his famous perfect game in nineteen fifty. Six that's.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Insane and for a guy that missed most of the,
season that was only start number thirteen or fourteen in
total on the year he got injured From april To.
August so it comes in and The dodgers got healthy
at the right. TIME i Know milwaukee was a great,
story ton of wins with not a whole lot of
superstars per, se BUT i said it when the playoffs
started they're the ceiling For. MILWAUKEE i don't think there
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were A World series. Team, eventually The stars will win
out for like The. Dodgers feels like right Now milwaukee's
time might be up.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Year in the. Series that was a good start for
The dodgers after the weird start early on with that double.
Play oh by the, Way Blue, jays you're about done two,
heresy good Night yankee. Fans i've noticed on On, Twitter
you're not the only. One yankee fans are really Enjoying
toronto getting Their heini. Speak they.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Didn't they didn't win in in a classy way last.
Week they rubbed it. In they Were they did the
opposite of What New york stands. For when we although
although beer cans were thrown At vlad's, family that was an.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Accident clearly they were trying to throw those. Things oh,
god we are always going To New york.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Though bo when we come back To cavalry's on the
way back back from injury for The, panthers and why
doesn't J c? Travel we talked about That Sports radio
ninety two SEVEN.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Wfnd he's really, close he looks.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Great we'll give you the full report On, wednesday but
you know this this week is going to be a
big week for him to really prove, physically to prove
that he can do it and handle a load that we're.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Expecting THE o ninety two SEVEN Wfnz mackimball with you
Could coker be on the way? BACK i feel Like,
bone there's a cavalry on the way back for The Carolina. Panthers,
like just add that on to the good. News we've
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won two in a, row three of. Four we got
to figure out how to win a game on a.
Road BUT i think another part of the good news
for us As panther fans has this three and three
feels like we are six and zero right, now because,
well you, know but it's there's a bunch of dudes coming.
Back matter of, fact fit we got the clip or
he talks about the cavalry the rest of the guys
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that are lined up to come. Back, uh let's play
that one right, here because It's cocher and we got
more guys that he's willing to say boner get are really.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Close, yeah IT'S jt. Standards you, know It's Austin.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Corbett his window will open this week and uh to
see where he's at, physically and again this is proving
that we can handle the physical load from a football.
Standpoint so It's Turk, wharton it's all those. Guys cuba of. Course,
yeah was that not? Interesting at the end he Forgot. Cuba,
yeah that's very. Interesting what have you done for me?
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Lately choose How cuba slipped his? Vine i'm, Sorry i'm,
sorry oh Man Port. Cuba here's the, thing, though this
is WHAT i. Love at Least.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Cuba at Least cuba can always spend time with a
drugs machine in the.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Field this is WHAT i. Love who doesn't love doing?
That this is settled. Out settle, now, baby this is
WHAT i. Love bony about this. Situation you got two,
dogs they're gonna be fighting over one. BONE i love.
IT i love. It competition brings out the best in most,
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people but certainly in guys like. This so we can
all lament over and we will certainly have a discussion
later about like how do you think this should play?
Out how do you you should play? It but you
got some people out there like you gotta Trade, chewbo
you gotta Trade. Rico he's gonna leave in the off.
Season let's throw that bone out there and let these
two damn dogs fight over it and watch them destroy
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opposing defenses.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Of like your your dog's rocket and. Bacon, Right i've
seen them scrap fighting over a. Toy i've seen. Them
i've seen them fight over. STUFF i think it's.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Nasty so you know What i'm, Saying, like do we
Think rico is not looking at, this like as As
Max junior would, Say, bet you know WHAT i, Mean
you don't think he's sitting? There, like bet you'll talk
all that Talkt. Rico you've been Great and, AGAIN i
think they're both great, teammates AND i think it seems
like they have a great relationship bone. Already SO i
don't think it's going to be a classless thing that
hurts or. DIVIDES i just really believe if they can
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find the way to do, it the way to divvy it,
UP i believe we could Have Double trouble two point zero.
ONE i think we could have something, special, MAN i really.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Do, also you have two, guys mac where their motivations
outside of, winning which is, paramount two different things that
they're fighting. For rico's fighting for that contract That cuba
has from The, panthers every snap. Matters rico will hit free,
agency and if he continues to do what he's, doing
he will get a big bag suba the guy that he.
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Is he got, paid but you, know Mac, da he
wants to prove that he's worth every penny that he
got to this football. Team we have a guy trying
to prove that he's worth the money that he got
and one guy trying to earn what the other guy
got from The panthers as well to have their own
individual motivations outside of the team.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Motivation, yeah no. Doubt and she was such a good leader.
TOO i just he's going to handle this. Great SO
i JUST i think we trust. ME i can spot
bad things on a football. Team, Bone i've got a
lot of experience doing. IT i don't think this is a,
problem you know WHAT i. MEAN i think we have
to celebrate the depth that running back much like we
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can celebrate the depth of offensive. Line for. Example in that, Clip,
bone that was the announcement That Big Korbs Austin korbitz
twenty one day window to be elevated to the active
roster is going to open up On. Wednesday don't mean
he's gonna be back this, week but it means he's
on the. Way Bony panther fans looked at that and we're, like, okay,
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Whatever like it's just a sign of the depth we.
Have and right now you may look at it and,
SAY i don't know If korbesh should break in there at.
ALL i certainly don't think too Many panther fans are
going to want to Replace Kid. MAYS i don't really
want to Replaces Brady christiansen BECAUSE i don't want to
mess what we. Have but isn't it in a nice
luxury if there's an interior injury to have big corbs
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as Depth, NOW i just like absolutely celebrate the areas
where we have, depth BECAUSE i don't know if you
notice bone we don't have depth everywhere, yet but those
are two areas where it's showing. Man and one thing
to keep in.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Mind we mentioned the trade deadline in the first, segment
as it pertains to The jets potentially having a. Fire
say on what that may mean For Garrett wilson and
what they're up to right now on The panthers side
of the trade. Deadline back this happens a baseball a
lot where guys come back around the deadline and they, say,
oh it's almost like they got a trade deadline moved
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by their own guy coming back from. Injury The panthers
have so many parts that are coming, Back, Cocher, Sanders Tuba,
corbs just on. Offense there's a lot of guys coming.
Back it's almost like the trade deadline for The. Panthers
and we'll talk about it at seven. Am it's almost
like the trade deadline for The panthers, back maybe getting
their own guys back as much just going on getting
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other guys.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Back brother. Team i'm telling you bone the cavalry actually checked.
That how do you pronounce? Cavalry how do you say?
That cat?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Cavalry there's, no there's not TWO l. Calvary there's there's
a cavalry and. Cavalry cavalry is like what you're thinking,
of what's the? CAVALRY i think that's like a religious, thing,
Right Christopher concord is trying to help me out with this.
Bony cavalry is a biblical. Thing oh, okay SO i,
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think so what's coming to help.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
The cavalry is?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Coming, no it's not cavalry cavalry c A v cavary.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Cavalry cavalry caw C a l is. Uh they don't
like you knew you said it. Wrong eighteen SECONDS i,
said there's there's. Cavalry that's what your. Boys.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Cavalry cavalry is an open an open air representation of
The crucifixion Of.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Jesus.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Oh, shoot that's A bible. Thing because Of. Winston there's
cavalry this. Church that's HOW i got.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It, now. Cavalry didn't you go to Like catholic school
for like twelve YEARS i, did and didn't teach you
About calvary at. All That maybe that's Why i'm confused.
Here maybe that's Why i'm messing. Up that's all. Me baby.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Is coming no to my, point let me simplify this
in back and both. Due we got dudes coming.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Back we do we, do all, right let's, go, Baby
let's get into. It J. C, HORN i believe damn
near everybody in this fan, base and when this goes
back to last, year this is not a new.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Right would love to SEE. J. C horn traveling with
the number one receiver on other. TEAMS i Like Mike.
JACK i think he's a great. DUDE i thought he
started the season really strong in the first three. Games
the last three games For Mike jackson have really been.
Rough he's been Targeted Stefan. Diggs bone did a lot
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of damage on him last week of his, waddle including
the big touchdown, catch and then this week obviously Joined
spickens not all but one hundred and twenty four according
TO pff take for what's, worth one hundred twenty four
of his one hundred and twenty six yards were Against
mike jack according TO. Pff so according TO, Pff Mike
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jackson over the last three weeks has given up sixteen
completions in twenty attempts to his coverage for three hundred
and thirteen yards and two. Touchdowns it has been really.
Rough so J. C horn On, Sunday bone went over
before that last series when we went we got him
three and, out went over and said to the coaches and,
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said let me Cover. Pickens AND i watched that series
back last night and there at least on the second down,
Play dak looked over At pickens and he was covered
by J. C and that's when he had to take
the second checkdown of the series they got resulted in
a tackle for. Loss so this is something that is
an interesting. Focus, yesterday Coach canalis was asked about this
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HAPPENING jc asking to cover pickings and also got into
the whole idea Because i've asked this bone a bunch
LIKE i need people smarter to me to tell me
why they don't do that more, often and Can alice
got into that a little.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
BIT i love that ABOUT.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Jc i'm not going to get into the conversations about
what happens with the coaches and the players on the.
Sideline different, strategies different ways to affect. It you, know
there's if you're A manda mand, team you can follow
a guy everywhere all the. Time you, know we have
a little mix of, man but we're mostly a zone,
team and so from a strategy, standpoint AND i don't
really want to get into the specifics of the, conversation
(28:37):
but J c loved the. Competitiveness you, know he's, like
put me over. There you, know he's got that pit bull.
MENTALITY i wasn't aware of that until after the, game but,
again you, Know i'm glad we have guys like that
that want to take those.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Challenges so and he gave even a better Explanation bone
On panther talk last. NIGHT i listened to that interview,
too and he talks about ZONE c, coverage and that's
one of the THINGS i think we've talked about in the,
past is that coordinators will say it's not as easy
to do when you play zone than when you play.
Man we played the second most zone in the, league
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SO i think that's a. Factor he also talked bone
About dallas's, pace and you, know it's it's a little you,
know it's quick to be able to switch your guys over.
There but this is definitely a question THAT i hope
is asked of a vo this, week and it's Something
i'd like to see them try to do more more
Of Josh. Norman we were heavy zone When Josh norman
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twenty fifteen would Shadow julio And evans and all the big.
Dogs that was a change they made that season because
how Well norman was. Playing it can be done in
zone more SO i hope that they look at doing.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
That, yeah because the problem that we're going to have
here continuously as long As jac's, here if the other
team is not going to throw, him if he's a
throw towards, him if he's a pre a premier. Corner
the other, Guy matt is going to get so much
attention and he may give up ways once in a,
while but if he's struggling to that point with all
the attention that he's going to get as a throw
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away FROM, jc that is a. Problem that's what made
The jets work back in the day because no one
would ever throw Near, revis but they Had cromarty on
the other. Side he would get beat once in a,
while but still he was also a guy that can
hold his own for the most. Part so you need
that guy to hold up because most of the throws
in this are going to go towards.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Him and, listen he's had some good. Moments the first
three games are really. Good he had seventeen pass breakups last,
year so when he was getting tested there were times
where he really stood up to. It but it's definitely a.
Concern it feels like he's being. Targeted and WHEN i
was listening To canalis On panther Talking, MAN i, WISH
i wish we would have pulled that. Clip it slipped
my mind this morning because it really does explain, this
but like it sounds like it's very, Easy like he,
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Said dallas did a good Job bone of knowing where
jac was gonna line. Up olsen said something during the
broadcast that's something THAT i Don't i'm not smart enough to.
Notice says they like to Line jackson up on the
field side And horn up on the boundary, side And
canalis Said dallas did a good job of lining pickings
up where J c. Wasn't but if teams, know if
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it's predictable Where horn's gonna, be and and and And
canallis also said that if you put a guy in the,
Slot horn's not gonna cover. There they're not gonna put
him there on them for whatever. Reasons so that's the
thing that sucks to me is it's very easy to
know that know what The panthers tendencies are is and
make and make Sure And i'm sure that's what these
teams have been doing the last three weeks with their
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top Receivers bone to make sure they get that matchup
that is On jack and not On.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Horn the good news about this matchup On, Sunday matt
you could literally Take horn and By jack off the
field and put two recycling bins out, there and The
jets still couldn't get.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yardage against.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Anybody so this is a good matchup to get right
with The mike jack Without Garrett. Wilson, definitely Because i'm
telling you right, Now, bone If mike jack had had
to Cove garrett Cover Garrett wilson for the entire, game the.
Problem and here's the thing about Justin field's game the other,
Day denver had nine. Sacks they have thirty sacks already this, Season,
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bone we have. Five, like as much As i'm excited
about the defensive improvements and the team, improvements the.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Pass rush is. Horrible like it really just is So
like you mean to tell, Me, bone you don't think
that combination of fields And gang And Garrett wilson could
have done some. Work, Oh Mike, jackson you. Know so,
anyway it sounds Like Garret wilson missed the, game so
that helps.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Us, yeah they entered the game with twenty one. Already
again before the The broncos at twenty one entering the,
game which is a ton finished with. Thirty that's an
insane number to be six weeks into the. Season if
they have more, Sacks i'm gonna definitely, NO i was
gonna say it was gonna go Dice MAN i was
actually gonna GO i was gonna go That joe and
(32:52):
say they've got more sacks than a grocery.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Store i'm gonna keep it clean when we come.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Back the latest in college football Being Bill belichick denying
the reports of him talking. Buyout we have the latest
scuttle butt From Penn, state including potential reunion Of mac
And Matt Rules Sports RADIO. Wfnz all, right So i'll.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Just start, with, uh you, know right off about like
just the some of the reports out last week about
AM i looking for a buyout and trying to leave
here and all. That it's just categorically. False it's zero
truth to any of. That, Uh, Glad i'm. Here we're
working towards, uh you, know our, goals and the process
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had great support from, uh you, Know chancellor Roberts, Ka Bubbo,
steve that's so, forth you, Know Michael, bari it's been you,
know those people have all been, great AND i appreciate
all their help and, everything and you, know we just
believe very much in the. PROCESS i Like Bill, walls you,
know the squirrel kick care of. Itself And i've always
believed that you just got to keep working and grinding.
(34:15):
Away and that's that's exactly what we're.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Doing.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
There you, go that's the hoodie himself. Yesterday so it's
much anticipated first presser yesterday since the barrage of reports
in the national media and the local media right and
all the inside of reports really Started bone With Pat
welter WR l and you, know the stuff about behind
the scenes and that sort of, thing and the lack
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of chemistry behind the scenes and issues and all that.
Stuff and then every national reporter out, There bone just,
decided oh, man there's blooding the. Water there's blood in the.
Water there's juicy stuff to be. Had so and Again
i'm not saying everything necessarily is is you, Know i'm
not SAYING i believe everything out, there but there's a
lot of smoke for there not to be a. Fire But,
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belichick that's how he opened the press or. Yesterday. Bone
the one thing he really head on refuted is THAT
i am NOT i have not been talking about my
buyout or, whatever like exercising my buyout and getting out
of here so we will see. It sounds Like. Bone
the stuff about, OH i don't know if he's going
to coach the col game kind of sounds like. That
(35:24):
stuff has gone by the, wayside but we'll see it
feels like it's a very fluid situation At Chapel, hill.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
And With belichick you always have to read between the
whys and try to figure out where the truth. Lies
he's the ultimate all time coach. Speaker so we're never
going to get a full handle on what's going, on
like he for, Example max says that he is not
talking by. Out, well are your representatives talking by? Out
is there semantics in? There like you personally aren't talking about?
(35:52):
It they could be talking about it LIKE unc and your,
reps though who who really? KNOWS i will say to
what you're. Saying it feels like he is coaching this
week AGAINST caw and then we'll go from.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
THERE i, guess, yeah he. Listened he's he's A bs,
Er there's no doubt about. It like the whole style
where he talks like, this it's just is part of
THE bs, yep, right he doesn't want you to literally
hear his. Words i'm surprised he didn't hit us put
it Onto cal. THOUGH i was surprised there is not
it or just Ont. Cal all the leadership like this
was a big one bone all the. Leadership was there Watching?
(36:26):
Bubba was There Steve, newmark the incoming ad Chancellor. ROBERTS i,
mean you, know so this was kind of a big
one to for his first time to address what was going.
On we'll talk more about it later in the, show
and like how we're supposed to feel about this because
last week made it see it made it seem bone
like they were like making him clean out his office or.
(36:47):
Whatever clearly that's that does not appear to be the.
Case but do we Believe? Belichick like he keeps talking
about how improved they are behind, it like they're really,
improving getting. Better it's, like but we. Don't you just
want us to trust you because we don't see it On?
Saturday you want to heals fans just trust you on,
That like doesn't? Improvement is it eventually going to show
(37:08):
up on the? Field and then you have no.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Trust with him as a college coach yet, either like at,
all you. Can't he's no track record at this. Level
they but we'll talk about it more as the show goes.
ON i get into. MORE i want to bounce around
to some other college. Stuff seven forty, five we'll get
into this whole. Thing there's a very interesting back and
forth between him And Pat welter OF, wrl who has
to follow up QUESTION i have an observ pro check
(37:31):
in the press or, yesterday AND i have an observation
too in that segment about why this current situation is
even more difficult FOR unc when you consider all the
coach openings that might be in the off season and
where you and c might fall in the pecking order of.
OPENING a lot of competition out there more last, year
a lot of, competition no doubt about. It let's, see
(37:51):
and do they even intend to fire him after the? Season,
LIKE i, know you know WHAT i. MEAN i don't
know what to think about all of this right. Now
but let's get into a couple other college, things all.
Right so if we have one cluster f In Chapel,
hill we certainly have a big one In happy not
So Happy valley Of State, College, pennsylvania where my lifetime
(38:12):
college football, Team bone has hit the struggle bust the
last couple of. Weeks it really is crazy when you
think about, it, though That, jay, like we at least
have to address how crazy it is That. Bone just
over two weeks, AGO i was watching My Nidney lyons
rally The force overtime against a really Good oregon, team
(38:33):
and they lost in overtime to a really Good oregon.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Team, disappointing but not the end of the. World and
here we, Are, BONE i don't, know like fifteen days,
late you. Know matter of, fact it was fifteen days
after that That James franklin was. Fired it easy. GOOD
i never thought it would happen this, quickly as bad
as they were Against northwestern AND. Ucla and clearly they've
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lost the fan, base the fan. Base the students showed
up way late and they boot like crazy all game On.
Saturday they've clearly lost the fan. Base BUT i was
shocked to see it happen that, quickly, Though, Bone.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah and not only did it happen, quickly it's the
way that it. Happened it's the losses To ucla In
northwestern that you know as well as. Anybody those were
the losses That James franklin.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Did it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Unbelievable, john ever of Avoiding he's had the losses to
the good. Teams he never Lost matt to the teams
he shouldn't lose. To that's what was shocking about how it.
Ended it went such a direction that was so, different
especially when you brought back a star quarterback that got
the team with the semi finals last, year two of
the best running backs in the history of the. Program,
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together you UPGRADED o wide. Receiver we knew that That Tyler
warren Abdul carter, watsons you'd have to fix. That but
still for them to lose TO ucla In northwestern and
that's how he goes, out you could have never imagined.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
THAT i just know you. Can't and, again how quickly it.
Happened is a dude who's had what six to seven
double digit seasons win SEASONS i think. SEVEN i, mean
this is a dude that on the regular bone was
in the top, fifteen top, ten and that QUICKLY i.
Get so IT'S i just want to, acknowledge like this
(40:16):
is not. Normal it's just this is what's happened here
is not. Normal but with that, said if it wasn't
time to do it, now it was going to be
time for a parting ways and see if someone else
can take the program to the next. Level it's interesting
too that they. Paid they're paying a forty nine million
dollar buyout in an era where schools are crying for more.
Money oh my, god we got to pay the revenue.
(40:38):
Sharing we actually got to pay the. Players, Now oh it's.
Horrible oh where's this revenue gonna come? From and an
era where last year bone The Billy napiers of the,
world The Mike norvell's one of the reason why guys
did not get fired last, year people thought was is
because of that twenty million dollars plus that schools will
now pay in revenue to the. ATHLETES a lot of
people kind of, thought, Whoa they're not going to pay
(40:58):
these big buyouts. Anymore they got a new who you,
know funds to. PAY i don't know if it's the
big ten being on the verge bone of this two
million dollar private equity. DEAL i Know Penn state just, said,
hey we're just gonna use an advance on that private
equity money that they're gonna give out to all the.
Schools but this this was. INTERESTING i wonder if more
schools will bite the bullet and pay these big buy
(41:20):
out to or or, not because last year was looking
like that was gonna change.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Fifty million dollars not to. Work is really is really
Something Macque american Dream Mac now What packer used to,
say here's your hurricant, dream here's Your Pete knackos big
board mac for The Penn state. Job they they've got sourced.
Info this is sort of just the initial list of
what they're hearing and names to watch For Penn. State Matt,
Ruhle Kurt, Signetti Matt, Campbell Iowa, State Clark Lee Vanderbilt
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Manny diaz Former Penn STATE, dc the dukeead Coach Eli
drinkwitz Of. Missouri the interesting part about the write up Of,
DRINKWITZ i don't know where it's coming. FROM i have
not seen. This apparently there's a lot of behind the
scenes rumors Of eli in The Florida. Gators if it opens,
up that was on three. DRINKS a hell of a
coach and he's also a hell of a. Comedian that
(42:13):
one's fine with. Me There's Kirk signetti is about four
laps ahead everybody. Else in my, Opinion i'm not so
sure That Kirk signetti is not the best coach in
college football in the current modern. GAME i, LIKE i
don't think you can overstate what he has done very
quickly At. Indiana it's, instance as a matter of, fact
what he has done At indiana is not Helping. BELICHICK
(42:37):
i know he brought some of his own, players including
sarat the stud wide receiver with him FOR.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Jmu but it's not Helping. Belichick so to, Me, bone
you got to offer him tons and tons of. Money
if you were willing to spend forty nine mil to
buy you'd better be willing to spend a ton to
go get a. Coach Because James franklin was a good.
Coach mind, you we didn't fire a scorbino. Here but
Like signette's got to be the. Guy you may, say,
no The Matt ruhle. Thing i'm trying to be fair
(43:01):
to him because he's clearly a better college Coach bone
than he was. HERE i just emotionally don't. Know it's
like being back with a TOXIC. X i don't Know,
bone IF i want to be paired up With Matt rohll.
AGAIN i know it's his. School and by the, way
does it not sound like he is dying to get
the job when he was asked about it and the,
Presser but he is doing everything but like saying call
(43:25):
me here's my number if you've lost, it and he's
buddies with the ad as.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well, YEAH i think you're. Right of all the options.
There first of, ALL i wouldn't go near many Ds.
MAC i WOULDN'T i wouldn't touch. It let mb where
he Is. Kurtzignetti mac is A Northern he's a. Yinser
he's a northern.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Guy he's a.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yinser he kind of fits like what you want in
The Penn state, coach a cranky old yenser going back
to the state where he's. From to, me it just
makes all the sense in the. World and as on
three says, too at sixty four years, old he's not
gonna he's probably gonna jump quickly because he's not a young.
(44:04):
Guy like how Often mac Will signetti have the opportunity
to go to a program Like Penn state back where he's,
from in the same state, Anyway like it makes all
the sense in the world That signetti would be. HERE
i think this the matchup of, personality, attitude little Grumpy
that's kind of What Penn state needs right now to
counter the other teams in that.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
CONFERENCE i just think there are a lot of programs
that could use that guy as their head. COACH i
just think he is going to win wherever he Goes
man and by the, way in a few weeks he
will probably be Beating Penn state by forty In Happy. Valley
maybe they can kidnap him and not let him. Leave
maybe that can. Happen who's your daddy's angry with? Me he,
says get signetti at your mouth regarding The Penn state.
(44:47):
Opening oh he, Gone Zach calzada For, Heisman Penn. State
tell Me Penn state Wants Mark. Stoops that's A kentucky.
Fan if you didn't know What Zach calzada For heisman
used to Be Devin leary For. Heisman now he's been renamed.
THAT i don't even think Kal zad is the starter,
now so it might need to be renamed.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Again, no, whatever that dude Is bowie, Right oh, yeah
that's that's that's what the way. Man there's also rumors
of Of Hugh freeze's future At, auburn and of Course Mike.
Norvel this is going to be a, wild wild coaching.
CAROSE i wasn't as wild last year this one coming up.
Though we've already got seven openings AND i don't know
how many are going to be out there by the
(45:25):
time week about two months from. Now joe And riley,
says isn't rule doing well In Nebraska's Father one right, now.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
But they played a pretty cake. Schedule ALTHOUGH i do
talk with our Guy, osborne former producer. Here he is
a Diehard nebraska, fan hence the Nickname. Osborne he is
begging us to Take Matt roll off his. Hands really,
so even LIKE i, Thought, hey it's it's going okay
there At. Nebraska but, ANYWAY i just don't think EMOTIONALLY
(45:55):
i can go Through that's, all. FOLKS i don't THINK
i can go through that, stumbling stammering. Stuff oh he's
gonna go, MAN i just had too many scars. Emotionally
here's your Future mac With Matt. Rol he's gonna get up,
there he's gonna he's gonna ramble right, here and then
he's just gonna panic and go.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Here, yeah we, are you know What i'm. SAYING i
say we are that you say Bet, Stadium i'm saying we.
Are he'd probably take the job for. Free i'm telling,
you he wants it so, badly And i'm just, like.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
All, right when we come back here on The mack
And Bone, show should be really should we really be
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