December 11, 2025 • 43 mins
In the second hour, Mac & Bone talk about what changes they'd like to see most to the CFP, with many different options and opinions on the table, when talking about the Panthers surge, they identify which player or position group has taken the biggest step forward, and they have fun with audio featuring Coach O. Philip Rivers & Kendrick Perkins
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
The first round in any bracket I've ever filled out,
which has not always been good for me. But I
love Cinderella, and I just don't love Cinderella in football.
I'm gonna be first and foremost honest, Like, yes, have
we seen Boise knockoff Oklahoma before?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Have we seen G five teams beat Power five teams before? Absolutely?
But the gap in today's day and age with finances
and personnel has gotten wider than ever, and yet we're
still carving out of place for not one, but two
G five teams. Don't you feel like there needs to
be some barrier to entry for a G five champion.
(00:51):
Shouldn't there be some strength of schedule requirement for them
to be been to be eligible? How would you solve
the group of five dilemma?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'd only let one team in.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So basically, you know, we realized whenever these new systems
are put into place, it's really hard to prepare for all.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
The unintended consequences. You know, I think about it all
the time of like Cbas. There you go, that is
Ryan Riscilla, who in his free time spends time thinking
about Cbas. Bo Very Riscilla. Like fount here, it is
it is. He's, uh, yeah, that's that's on brand. That's
on brand for him. But anyway, that is Greg McElroy
(01:31):
and his podcast. Ryan Rosillo guests there and these this
is one of three changes in hell. If you guys
want to suggest more, throw them in here. I mean,
there's so much talk Bone about the flaws of this
playoff system. It is just the second year, so there
is an element of, hey, do we want to change
every year? Do we want to let some of these
things play out? I would like to let the twelve
(01:53):
team field play out longer, but it feels inevitable it's
headed to sixteen. If not next year, you know the
year after that. But we could talk about the whole
expansion thing with the right number is It seems like
y'all are mixed on that On the text line, what
do you think Bone about the idea of the group
of five? You know, Lugan Bill said this to us
last week, and since then, I've heard a lot of
(02:14):
people say the same thing. I don't know if I
can really argue that it's not basketball right, There's just
it's just the money involved, the financial differential from level
to level basketball. You think that a team could go
on some sort of a run, whether that from three,
whether they their goal may not be to get to
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the championship game, but if they got to the late
a final four, Cinderella will end up being a storyline.
It's hard pressed to see mac Ajmu going on like
the Final four running. Lugan Bill said, it's two different games,
and he is one that believes there should be a
group of five playoffs. Josh Pate said that as well,
what do you think about this? Do you just take
group of five like auto? Like right now? Bone the
(02:58):
system was designed to give them one auto. This was
a kookie year with the ACC, and like I said earlier,
if the ACC just simply changes their tiebreaker, they could
have avoided this this year. If every conference makes their
tiebreaker so that after head to head it's based on
your CFP ranking. If every conference would do that, we
could probably eliminate this and ensure that it'll be only
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one group of five. I kind of like one group
of five, one Cinderella. The issue is when you look
at that first four games in the first round and
two of them look like complete blowouts. I don't think
that's good for I don't think the two teams is
good for business.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Especially with how much we talk and discuss how much
money is involved in these games. And look, we just
talked about how we're sad that the regular seasons ended
for college football outside of Army Navy, and there's some
bowl games on Saturday, but the regular routine of those
Saturdays is now gone. So now we're putting all of
our emotional investment into the college football playoff first round games.
(03:58):
And now we have two on the same day, back
to back on Saturday. Where you go, that doesn't really
feel like a day where it's like a circle day,
can't wait, We'll watch, But it feels like Jami Orgon
and then two waye Old Miss. It doesn't feel like
it's a games where I'm like, I can't wait to
watch them play. One is one thing, but I love
the David versus Goliath feel Goliath Where am I from
(04:20):
David Goliath? Feel of one? Matchup? Two feels like it's nice,
that's enough one? So ja could I put one in?
And do you'll do a playoff?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So do you put a rule that only one G
five team can make it? Or do you, like I said,
just kind of get the power forward? To change their
tie breakers so that we don't have the situation with
the ACC where you have some you know, five lost
team in the championship game by virtue of a weird
common opponent tiebreaker type thing. Maybe you just do that.
This texter says you got to make them top twenty
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to be eligible. Well, yeah, Herbstreet and Rees Davis, Herbstring,
Reese Davis. Couldn't that bring that up fast enough? I
mean to, Lane and Jmu were announced Bone in the
playoff field, and within three minutes, Reese and Herbie we're
talking about the idea of making them be top fifteen
or top twenty be eligible. Like they did not hold back.
(05:14):
They basically let the world know, yeah, we don't like
this whole thing, you know, with these two teams in there.
But yeah, it's just if those two games are routes Bone,
I could easily see something like that coming because they
do like to react, you know, to the Stuart Mandel's point,
the BCS would react every year tweak the formula based
on the controversies from year year. So if these two
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games are blowouts boned next weekend, I think it feels
like there's definitely gonna be some sort of reaction submitted
from the city says he thinks it should be top
fifteen two to one zero number. If you want to
talk about the financial gap, I think bring up the
fact that letting G five teams in the playoffs is
huge for those G five programs from a financial standpoint,
helps them build up. By not letting it compete backs
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up a monopoly between powerhouse teams, well the power four bone.
They want to get as close to a monopoly as
they can legally without getting sued. And Joel Klatt came
out the other day and was like, the only reason
that they have this spot that is there at least
one per year for a group of five champ is
to avoid litigations. Yeah, there's probably something to be said
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for that as well.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So mac not every group of five each year is
created equals.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
We went through a run there where we thought Boise
State may be able to like back, you know, ten
fifteen years ago, we thought Boise State could go ahead
and win the whole damn thing. That's how good Boise
State was for a while. So there would be years
where it's like, oh, yeah, Boise State should be one
of those teams app State has that moment where they
compete with the big dogs. But I don't think these
teams this year are on the level of those past teams.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Look at last year. Last year is Boise State, and
I thought no Logan Bill said, oh, he was on
the sideline, So I mean, I'm going against the guy
that was on the sidelines for the game that knows
way more football than me. But he said you could
tell the difference sween Penn State and boys. Yeh, I'm
sure you could physically right size in the trenches and
Penn State one in the trenches. But like, I didn't
think that game was a complete embarrassment, like these two
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games feel like they could be. They will probably be embarrassments.
I mean, hell too, Lane already lost by five toutties
and they're the one that's the lower underdog. Yeah, you're
lost by five tutties to Old Miss. Now they're playing
them again. Now, would you've done help? That doesn't help matter?
In fact, it's a replay of a thirty five point game.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Would it make any sense at all for a group
of So is this what we're talking about at all?
A group of five team gets in and then they
would they still do a group of five playoff, it
just wouldn't include the highest ranked group of five.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, I guess that's the discussion. They'll get one, then
the rest to go play. Do you put them out
completely have their own playoff or do you include one
everybody else has a playoff? That's what I w do.
That's both world. I think that's that's the thing. But
but if it's the question is how much interest is
they're in a group of five playoff? Is there less
interest if you take the best team out? All those
sort of things, what do you think about the war
(08:00):
or on the Tuesday Night Show, even Kirk Kerbstreet Bone
admitted his own network's Tuesday night show should go away.
Stuart Mandel and The Athletic points out there's a problem
with that theory. It's written into the contract and a
new six year contract is getting ready to start and
that is in the contract. ESPN gets that as value
that they get this Thursday night show to hype up
and all that stuff. But Stuart Mandel also made good
(08:24):
points about like does it box them into the core
into corners when they do this weekly ranking show? Like
he brought up the example of could they have just
left Alabama out if they didn't do weekly ranking shows,
because no one would know that you're penalizing them for
the conference title game performance. It would be literally just
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look at everybody's full resumes at the end. I'm gonna
be honest, I might be the only person in America
I kind of like the Tuesday night shows as a
content provider. I kind of like the fact that it
gives us content to debate and discuss each week. I
hate to agree with you one thousand percent, it's not
(09:06):
what we love to do, but I had biased I
had the same thought for where we stay. We're biased
on why would we not love what that show brings
us for discussion, the audio that it brings us from
whoever's in charge says something goofy or someone on the
panel you know, has some thought. No, it's for what
we do here, not just an average fan point of view,
but from the media to host a show that gives
(09:28):
us too much content for me to say, get rid
of that one. Yeah, we're being selfish on this one,
all right. We need the stupid weekly debates that don't
mean anything because they're just gonna flip flop teams at
the last minute. So what we debate means nothing. I
but if you could put on your Commissioner of college
football hat, if there was a commission of college football.
I understand Stuart Mandel's point, and I think the best
(09:50):
way to do it would be the way college basketball
does it. One one show, give you your top whatever,
and then go away for a while, and then come
back with the final rankings. Right, So it gives you
a look at how the committee is thinking. It gives
you a little taste of it. But it's not this
every week thing that can be held against them at
(10:13):
the end. You know, But I will do we need
do we need the guy in charge talking every week
when it's not even finalized yet. Also, well, that's the
thing is that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
This guy's not like we do it the whole way
through that show, and it's like it's gonna change though
what he may say the first one will be completely dished.
So I would I would get rid of that guy
talking the whole.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's not a good look for that because they come
whoever it is, they come across as full of bleep.
They come across as one week they value this, so
next week they value that. Their inconsistencies are on display,
So I agree with you that would be part of
the case for doing away with the shows, is that
why do we make them go up there with their
(10:51):
BS crap every week? It just it makes you distrust
them even more.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Doesn't matter Ry Reese ask the guy's gonna spin it
to way? It doesn't, none of it, None of that.
I I'm there usually back for the rankings, and then
I'll go back later and figure out whatever the person
said that we need, you know what I mean, I'm
not I'm not there to watch that guy stumble around
whoever's in jars.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So I don't think that's listen. If I was running
college football, I don't think the weekly shows are for
the best. If I'm doing a talk show where we
can get on here and scream about it every week
on a Wednesday morning, yeah, I kind of like it.
So I guess I'm kind of admitting that maybe they
should do away with it. But the thing is, good
luck doing away with it. It's in the contract for
the next six years. ESPN finds value in that. But
(11:32):
it was amazing that Herbstreet admitted that he shows are
a problem. It makes you wonder if the guy's involved
like don't like do they like it or do they
think this is stupid?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Clearly Herbstreet.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
But you know how we had Kelly Staffer on the
lead voice for ESPN Radio's college football coverage, and he's
on Tuesday even he said, the.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Balls might not like me, but the show's got to go.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I have a suggestion, though, what if we had Wayne
Gretzky read off all the team names each week?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That could snoice it up a little bit. Note Ray Dame.
He'd have some name up there, wouldn't they that could
spikes it up a little bit like the old World
Cup draw. Last thing. And I don't even know is
this even worth like debating? This is why we put
this last. You know, multiple people are saying, sixteen teams
feels watered down. What's this one? Sixteen teams is inevitable?
(12:18):
Don't even talk about it? Yeah, that's I mean, that's
my point is it feels like it's inevitable it's going
to sixteen teams, especially when a team like Notre Dame,
as good as they are, the brand, they are, as
whiny as they are. It feels like bone you know,
that's going to even give more AMMO to putting it
up to sixteen teams, but it feels inevitable. I do
(12:41):
think though you talk about college football having the best
regular season, well, one of the main reasons it has
the best regular season is it's always felt like it
mattered more and the games matter less. Now with a
twelve team playoff, you had sixteen games. The regular season
games meet even less. Like I do feel like there's
nothing wrong with a good team or two being left out,
(13:03):
Like there's nothing wrong with an exclusive postseason. You were
just at four teams two years ago, and we could
be bony in three years quadrupled, Like it doesn't feel
necessary to do this, get more of a sample size
to see how twelve works. But it feels like their
minds are made up already and it's just a matter
(13:23):
of how do they do it? And can they get
Petiti to shut up about this stupid twenty fourteenth.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, you know, you go to twenty four What are
teams going to schedule to just get into that thing?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Also, by the way, what are we going to.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Lose some of these non conference early season matchups that
we were already got our teams? Yeah, our team just
going to go ahead and schedule however there four or
five cupcakes, whatever it is. And then the way they
go with their calling, don't water it down, don't water
this down, Like that's the I think that the imperfections
of the sport, the imperfections almost make it perfect. Like
we know it's not perfect, but that's what we love
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about it is the chaos, is the craziness.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I love the debate.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It is the debates, Like if it was a perfect sport,
it wouldn't be probably loved as much. It's the craziness,
the wild that's the debates that make college football what
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think that's a good point. They try to always
make it perfect. We're trying to make it more like
the NFL. I love the NFL too, actually a college
football more, but I love the NFL too. But it's
like I love the fact that they're different, you know.
And so I kind of like the chaos at debates,
the our conference versus your conference, Like I like all
(14:27):
that stuff. And I just think that twelve it feels
like a good number to me. A lot of y'all
are favor of sixteen, but maybe all are. Notre Dame
fans texted in.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's your number on this what's your what's your perfect
number eight?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So you think it's already watered down too much.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I was never in favor of expanding from four from
four to twelve. I'm not a favor of expanding from
twelve to sixteen. God forbid we go all the way
to twenty four, like Rick Neuheisel was suggesting the other
day when he was on the Dan Patrick Show. But
I think this year, mack was is the perfect case
for there not to be an expanded playoff. Now Notre
(15:06):
Dame would disagree with you, but I think if you
just tweaked the system about how you go about it,
I do think there's a there's a there's a gap
between these teams that are ten and two when you
get to the nine and three teams. And I just
don't think if you've got three losses in a twelve
game schedule, I don't care what damn conference you play in.
Should you be playing for a national championship? To me,
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that interest no.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I think we need to remind ourselves, and by ourselves,
I mean those cry babies in South Bend. I think
we need to remind everybody bone that a couple of
years ago, the fifth team was the first team out.
We really just worried about eleven and twelve were really
acting like there was like notre names, act like there
was a federal crime committed because the team that's either
(15:49):
eleventh or twelfth was listed out of the college football
playoff And just a couple of years ago, Bone, if
you were fifth, you were left out, and for how
many years if you were third you were left out,
And then before that you could go unbeaten, like the
great Penn State Nitney Lions in nineteen ninety four. But
because of Boll tie ins, you don't even get to
play for a national title. So I think we need
to remind ourselves where we've been in the past and
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how badly teams have gotten screwed or how good teams
that missed out in the past were, and tell people
to shut the heck up bone that are ranked eleventh
or twelfth and are crying like they're entitled to a
guaranteed spot.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I know it, I know it crossed over for a
couple of years back. But how would the social media
world in this day and age deal with the bcs
of like you said, the one and two getting in yeah,
or how about before the BCS.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
How about before the BCS when teams couldn't play each
other for the national title because they were tied into bowls,
and then voters just decided who the national champion. Was
so confusing. Could you imagine how angry college football social
media would have been back in the day.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And back then you couldn't watch it ever again like you
can watch now. You the national champions were determined by
writers that were in a select handful of games and
box scores, like this is a great sport, this sport
to death. But from the time they started crowning champions
to today, it has been flawed every step of the way.
And it's but it's gotten better though. Yeah, it's as
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much as I still flawed. It's kind of like kind
of like you Mac as you you've improved in every
aspect of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Thank you, you're still flawed. I'll take it. I'll take that.
I'll take that half complient and for you bound. Thank you. Flaud.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
They call me as my fraud look, fraud woman, flawed
or fraud would you call me?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Would you call me flawed? I never call you a
fraud on the air.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
That's why I called myself fraudle mean anyway, when we
come back when the South or not. The Panthers have
made progress this year, but who or what has made
the biggest leaf.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
During the season. Sports Radio ninety two seven w f
n Z.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Bryce Young, through the first couple of years of his
career has had some moments that could have absolutely broken him.
His mental toughness has manifested itself over and over again.
And now you're in a point where, first of all,
you got a head coach that believes in him and
does everything he can to support him and make him successful.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That helps.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
And also once you get for the second year in
a row, once you get to a point where you go,
I don't care how bad the first half of the
season was, we can get this thing together and we
can play with confidence down the stretch. You start to
do that, you start to stack those seasons. Now you
gotta get out of the gate better, which is what
I thought the Panthers were going to do this year,
and they wound up not doing it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
But I love that aspect of Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Mike Garret follow NFL Network giving a little love to
Bryce Young and his mental toughness. He's pretty dang physically
tough too. Don't let the small frame fool you. Man.
This dude could take some shots and keep on ticking
as well. You saw the Atlanta game and how he
played Bone on that banged up ankle. But I love it.
I love hearing good stuff from the national media. In
regards to Bryce, I do want to do this right now.
(19:13):
Make sure, because we got it. We're giving away four
pack of Hornets tickets basically every hour the rest of
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Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh yeah, So anyway, we got that coming up at seven.
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Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm not sure I can. I'm lucky I got there
at once because you l l s. Thank you get
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Speaker 4 (20:46):
You It's amazing how they always go the route of perversion.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes, well with our with our audience. I don't know,
are they too dumb to spell bulls or are they
just perverted? Fair point? I'm penn audience. I love y'all, man,
y'all the best man Christmas gift. I can have. Is
that y'all listen to this goofiness? All right, so let's
do this, man. Listen, we got a big game for
our Falcon our Falcon games. It was straight faced our
Falcons tonight against the Bucks. I guess we got to
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do that tonight, and then of course Panthers and Saints
on Sunday. I just want to spend a minute bone
before most of our cause, as a matter of fact,
it feels like all our Panther conversations after this are
going to be about the Saints, because we have to
know your enemy. Saints edition conversation later on the show
at nine o'clock, and then tomorrow is going to be
all about the Saints game specifically. How worried are you?
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Know you're worried about it? Are they going to get
it done? Do you believe that they can kind of
string another put another good performance out there after the
Rams game all that stuff. So allow us to pause
for a second and just kind of reflect a little
bit here on how far we have come to this point,
regardless of whether we win the South or not. And
I want this so badly, and I do think it
is so gettable with the way the Bucks have played,
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but regardless of whether we win it or not, there's
no denying the progress that the Panthers have made. So
I want to kind of talk about the areas where
we have progressed the most. Bony. So think back to
the way that you felt about this team before the season,
not just bone everybody, you know, all the Panther fans listening,
and where we are now, what's an area, Maybe it's
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a part of the team, or maybe it's literally one person,
Like who is a person or what is a thing
on or about this team that you look at and say, man,
in thirteen games, I feel so much better about him,
or so much better about this Like what areas and
what players and coaches and people in the organization fit
this description.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Well.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
One that comes to mind is a guy that we
brought up a couple times a few days ago. That's
Mike Jack at the other corner spot. I know he
had a couple of rough moments this year, and he's
not perfect, but I think he's the ideal guy across
from J. C.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Horn.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He will get targeted a lot, things will happen, but
I think Mike Jack Matt We talked about the secondary
in the other corner spot a lot in the offseason
throughout the year. Early on, I should say I feel
very confident at the level that Mike Jacket is playing
at right now, much better than maybe I felt earlier
this season.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
No, I think that's a good call. I think that's because, well,
I'll be honest with you, I'm trying to look at
his game by game log here on PFF. All right,
when he was in that stretch bone where he gave
up one hundred against this PFF, I'm not saying it's
gospel that these were you know that he exactly was
responsible for these yards. But at corn to PFF, he
was responsible for six catches on six targets for one
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hundred and eight yards. Against Miami, Waddle gave him some trouble.
And then the game after that was New England and
Stefan Diggs gave him fits one hundred and twenty four
yards corn to PFF on seven completions right in that period.
And then there was an eighty one yard or bone
in week four though oh no, hold on, it was okay,
I got wrong. Eighty one yards New England. That was Diggs,
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one hundred eight against Miami that was Waddle and then Pickens.
I forgot about Pickens was the next one hundred and
twenty four yards. PFF said. Jackson gave up so in
that stretch right there, bone, I believe that we might
need to draft a corner in the first round. To
your point, since then, Bony has not given up more
than thirty five yards in a game in coverage. It
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has been one hundred percent completely different in their intent.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
They're winning more. It's not a coincidence. Right that day,
he's playing at that level. And yep, and they beat
the Rams without J. C. Horn my jack was it
was essentially an in facto number one corner against the Rams.
Gave up only thirty five yards in his coverage. So
I think that's a I think that's a good example.
I mean, I'll just say Dan Morgan, I mean, I
don't know if that's a cop out answer, and maybe
we need to get more specific about the team and
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the players and units on the team and stuff like that.
But Dan Morgan, just the first off season the O line,
you saw how much he improved the old line. Well,
look at his second off season, look at this rookie group.
I mean, it's unbelievable. The contributions you got for all.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
These different rookies, including guys that aren't even draft I mean,
you have an undrafted kicker that said three game winners
for you. I mean, and can you know rookie kickers.
I mean, that's a crapshoot. When you go with a
rookie kicker and he's been absolute fits money for us.
Bone you go with the work he did to improve
the defense. I mean, guys like Mary added to this defense,
guys up front, the way he improved his defensive front.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
So to me, I was gonna make his special teams
as a whole because remember when the offseason we said,
well that's a lot of moving parts on special teams.
That unit has been very consistent and he concerns and
I feel like we haven't really had too many staff
foods with the special team.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think etnz. I I'm not sure
we got the greatest return game in the NFL. Bone
coverage I think other than the New England game has
I feel like it's pretty good. Sam Martin's been solid.
He's a free agent game, but he's been solid. The
longs I missed. The long steping is elite, by the way,
vote JJ Janssen for the dang Pro Bowl. This man
is only tenth in the voting. It's a Travis step.
(25:57):
This man's been I mean since Washington was president. This
man's been stapping football. So all right, I give this
dude some vote. Hey, he's put the time in ninety two.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Can you help us out of here with the executive
order Pro Bowl voting?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I see what I can do. Do you think ninety
two doesn't know what we're talking about right now? I'm
talking about J. J. Jansen? Man, you go your bone? Okay?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
The word?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Why is you guy to take a shot at Bobby Addle?
Sally comes back this week? He could be texting right now, Seattle.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Sally's coming back this week, gets back in Charlotte on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I knew you had a bounce to your step this week.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Baby down Sally. Oh my god, that has nothing new
with the girl Mac. The Panthers play a big time
football game on Saty do man they do? That's the
most important damn thing in my life right now?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
What else? All right? Seven oh four or five, seven
oh nine, six cent chime in on this. When you
if you could think back to how you felt before
the season, and now how you feel what the progress
this team has made? Who or what about this team?
Do you feel better about something? I mean, a bunch
of people are just saying defense of Verro's name is
getting mentioned. He's getting he's he's getting some waugh. Yes,
(27:02):
if Iy's had a good has has had maybe his
best pass protection season. I'm I'm not saying he's a,
you know, elite past protector. I don't even think i'd
say he's a great pass protector at this point. I
do think he's improved, and I do think he's worthy
of the extension that it feels like he is inevitably
getting boned this offseason.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
You know, we have some news here from texter named
Mick Hoonky all right, quote the Banduel text quote. I
hate being this guy, but I rewatched the Saints game
and the field goal block was on JJ Janssen.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
How dare you, sir? How dare you block him? Speaking
of blocks, McConkey out of here, baby, out of here.
We'll catch you after the new year. This block's on you?
How dare you? I don't even remember that, so I
don't I can't argue it. I don't even remember it.
I'm trying to bring myself Bone to go back and
watch it for context for tomorrow show. I was gonna
(27:58):
do it last night, but I was like, I want
to watch this Stuart Scott thing way more like I
just I'm having a hard time bringing myself to relive it,
relive that bleep show. Can you watch the goal block
and see if got ran over to you the fear goal.
But I'm gonna be fair and honest about it, all right,
But I'm still gonna tell you to vote for JJ
regardless for the Pro Bowl. How about the offensive line coaches.
I mean, we already thought they did an amazing job
(28:20):
Bone in our first year, Gilbert and Goodie, but this
second year Bone the depth been tested even more. And
I mean we were down to Jake Kerhan, somebody the
most Panther fans didn't even know existed until last week.
Bon't and he's out there playing solid. I mean, so
a lot of it has to do with Dan Morgan
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keeping the O line depth together, and a lot of
O line depth guys are free agents again this season,
Brady Christianstan korbs Maye like, so they've got some work
to do with those Nymans Diamonds a free agents. So
but those those two guys. Man, every year I grow
in faith with our O line coaches.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Jerry from me, I'll mix on the text line, he
says Van Wallace after the green dot switch. It's a
good one there. Yeah, he's definitely been a positive here.
Also Mac down the line, Well, that's a great call,
very good call. Also down the line here. Oh, I
can't believe this one, Doc, I cannot believe he's mentioning
Nick Scott needing some law for the ways played lately.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I think he's been better than we thought he would be.
Now he's a free agent, pay off season, I'm sure
he needs to be a priority. But yeah, made the plague,
made the interception against the Rams, had a big tackle
near the line against the Rams late in that game. Yeah,
I think he's been better. I think he's been better
than we thought. But again I think we thought that
in fairness, I think we thought he'd played like fittiot
(29:39):
at safety. What is your problem?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
You stole my damn first basement and you're being mean
to me? How many emotional wreck over here? A finished Jellowstone,
I lost, Peter Alonzo Seattle Sally comes.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Back isn't that good that Seattle Sally's.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Coming back depends not for her, not for her. Mac
was waiting for the show today. Mac was watching Polar
Bear videos today.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Oh, I cannot wait. I'm gonna monitor your Twitter. I
should come in and I should order a Polar Bear outfit,
mascot outfit, and then wear it in here and just
see how mad Fitty gets. Because the Orioles stole pedal ons.
It'd be a great troll job at your cheap. So
I am you're right, you think that's a very good call.
I can't get that past the Senate. My wife barely.
(30:23):
Who needs the Senate? Just executive order things. That's what
I do when I don't get my way. Listen, every
two piece snack at bow Jangles, I'm wondering if it's
gonna get flagged when my wife goes through our financial record.
I'm like, oh, I squeezed that two piece snack in
there this week. That should go to order. A Bojangles
is a two piece snack because yeah, because it's cheap,
(30:44):
goes back to the whole cheap. Okay. Yeah, one day, Fitty,
one day you may have a woman to answer to, or.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Maybe you might not we needs a woman when you
got a Flounder's.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Fitting that a person can only order two pieces of exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I get that four times. The text line will ignore
that one. I'm sure Fitty's like, what's wrong with you?
You gonna diet? What's you're gonna waste away? Fiddy didn't
know you can't order only that.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
We have a text that it says Seattle Sally's arriving
this weekend. So what do y'all think Monday? By the
time she runs from Fiddy and goes back west, this
is gonna end like a Hallmark movie. She's gonna end
up in love with Founder Pegnata. They're gonna good, and they're.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Gonna go sell by Christmas in a small town.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Would that not be a plot twist? If flound pulled
the robbery, would that not be the plot twist of all?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Plot twist don't involve that pouch sitting under a missile
tone this time of the Yearbone my god, there are
so many strays right now, I can't count.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I'm root see mag I don't know if I root
for Flounder.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He deserves this, dude said somewhere Fat Mac just heard
Skinny mack say that he orders a two piece snack
and is disgusted. Yeah, that's true. That is so true.
My wife doesn't like me eating a lot of fast
food either, because you know the whole thing about it
killing me type thing I used to I told the
story all the time. I used to sneak trips to KFC,
(32:09):
Like I literally would get cash out of the bank
so she couldn't trace the KFC purchase. I would eat
it on my way home, and then my wife would
have dinners when we worked in the middays, so I
would be getting home at like five, my wife would
have dinner ready and I wouldn't even be hungry, and
I have to fake the funk and just eat dinner
because I just had some on the down low sneak KFC.
Did she find like your stack of boxes in the
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backseat of the car at one point that was like
a storyline on the shoe. I had a box I
didn't clear out. It was under the seat and it
was sticking out, and she saw it sticking out and
she's like, well, have you been going to KFC? And
I'm thinking to myself, yeah, like thirty times in the
last two months.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You should have lied and said, oh my god, somewhat
broke into my car and stopped speak box underneath my seat.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I always told my wife, I said, you don't have
to worry about me cheating on you with anybody but
the colonel. You know what I mean. The Chris feels
like that's the one thing that I have not I have.
I have stepped down on her and mister Field, Colonel Sanders,
you know any of these people? Oh, Matt, I have
an honest moment here?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Am I the only one that finds uh the voice
on the uh, the AI voice on the bow Jangles
drive through?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Got a got a digginger rightly a little bit. I
don't like, Oh, bo Linda, do you? I think? I think?
But Linda and I have Well, that's the woman I
talked to the most. You start, you start saying, there's
like seven people beeping behind bone because she sees striking
up a conversation with the AI voice at the Bojangles
drive through. Oh man, you come here often, but Linda.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
She's always friendly. She always talks back to me when
we come back. Fun with Audio. We're gonna talk about
what happened with the barbecue reference on ESPN story in
Time with Eddie O and old Man. Rivers talks yesterday
about his family's reaction to his return. Sports Radio ninety
two seven WFNZ Mack and Bone.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ. We gotta have a
little fun with audio. I see that Sheena Quick, who
by the way, is coming up on the show top
of the hour to talk Panthers Love, talking Panthers football
with Sheena. I see that she tweeted out Bone. I
just noticed this that she tweeted out Cam's reaction on
his fourth and one podcast while talking to his man
Peggy about Philip Rivers getting the call from the Colts
(34:44):
at forty four, but Cam at whatever he is, thirty
six doesn't get the call. I can't. I've got to
keep listening. I'm trying to figure out he's they're so goody,
he's so goofy. I can't tell, like he gets serious
for a second and that he's goofing off. So I can't.
I can I can't really tell if he's like, is
he mad about it? I'm trying to decipher that. So
do you gonna study this some more?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
During the break, then Fidy's guy Peggy gets involved and
there's a lot going on in the.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Way they edit those videos. At some point they start
singing I won eat no, but what I don't know?
So I think Cam might be saying, you know, he
doesn't really want to be a backup.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I know the headline set it felt disrespectful or something.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Well he said that in there initially, but then five
seconds later he's goofing off, So I'm like, did he
really feel disrespected? Am I glad that he didn't get
a call?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Like? Am I wrong to?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I don't want to see Cam in another uniform again,
Like I I hated the way it ended in New
England and the way it ended here. I should remember
Cam in the good times. I just lack him blue.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I just don't feel like Cam was right physically. However,
many years ago that was we saw him last, and
I just I'm not sure he's right physically now, Like
how long can that shoulder? Seemed like there was serious,
you know, damage done to that shoulder. So I'm not sure.
And I blame Kelvin Benjamin for not making it and
(36:00):
Cam had to and I blame uh, you know, young TJ.
Watt as well, But like I just plus I gotta
be honest. Cam looks like he's having a blast. I don't.
I don't want to see him go out there and
like be mocked if he does. If he can't throw
the ball down field, Remember he couldn't even throw the
ball downfield. You and to bring someone in to throw
the hail Mary for him?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And how And I mean, yeah, how long can he
How long can he throw the ball down field? Even
if he can do it, like for one game? Could
he be consistent with that? That was the problem at
the end there, Max Sycamore shout out to Denise there
on the FanDuel text lin, Max, check out what she
just said. In there, it's a picture of a polar
bear wearing an Oriels jersey.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
There we go, baby, Now we're talking. Now we're talking. Oh,
people are telling me he sang the number one song
because he wants literally jersey number one. And he said
he couldn't play for the Colts anyway because Sauce Gardner
has number one. That's what I'm saying. I don't get
the feeling. Bone he's being very serious about you know
what I mean, Like, I don't get the feeling. I
think I think him, he says I'll never retire. I'll
never announce retirement. But I think he I think he
(36:56):
kind of knows. I think he kind of What if he.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Came back back with a specially designed helmet where he
cuts out the top and he puts his hair through
the top of the helmet.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
That would be That would because of fashion forward. That
would be fashion forward. All right, let's try to run
through these cuts real quick, because you've got a bunch
of fun with the audio that we need. Now, let's
start with Philip Rivers on the reaction of his family
when he let them know for the first time in
five years, I'm playing NFL football. They've been very supportive.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
You know. I think my younger children are most excited.
I shouldn't say most excited. They're excited because they don't
remember dad playing. You know. My six year old actually
asked me like four months ago, like, Dad, why don't
you play anymore?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
And I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (37:32):
The best you're gonna get his me coaching on the sideline,
you know, because they were seeing you know, highlight or
they're pulling up some you know old games. Uh, my
boys were fired up, obviously, but I think share the
same sentiment a little nervous, like, Dad, you can do
you think you can do it, you know. And then
my older girls are real excited because they're they're a
little bit confused, you know, they're like, shoot, I was twelve, you.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Know some of them.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
You know, now all of a sudden they're grown adults,
married and and they remember sixteen years old going to
the ball game. So it's, uh, it's been, it's been.
It's been a whirlwind for forty eight hours. I'll say it.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Took him a while to get the opinions of all
involved in his family because he had to go through
about forty five of them all down. I mean, he's
got little ones, he's got he's a grandfather now, so
he's got you know, kids with kids, and he's gonna
be playing in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
He's avoiding five freaking years thinking.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
He's avoiding the chaos of the holiday season at the house.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That could do it, Yeah, that could That could definitely. Well,
I mean, I'm pretty sure in that house, buthing there's
chaos every season, that's true. Yeah, could you imagine I
would never I would never have quit football if I
had that many kids. I'm telling you, right, Now, anybody
that's had, like, you know, two little ones, ask KB
about three little ones simultaneously. I mean, you look for
any reason to escape the house for your sanity for
(38:44):
a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I mean, I guess stress and all I have is
a ninety eight year old dog. Let's move along. Sometimes
duties in the house, but it happened.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Let's move along because story time with edwar Zeron is
an amazing thing. We played two great audio clips yesterday
and we can't resist. We got to go back to
Ede ours Ron's interview this week on the Bus and
with the Boys podcast. This is his story about him
and Tommy Tuberville being graduate assistants on the same staff
when they were in their early twenties. Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Me and Tommy Tumbleville were graduates again. We live in
a dormitory. So on Wednesday night, we don't like travel
money for the gas. We get twenty bucks. Okay, so
we go get some beer and at the end we
go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and we get a four piece.
That's all we have left right now. We feel a
pretty good officer. We had a lot of two dollars
for chicken and eighteen dollars for beer. Right, we go
(39:33):
back to the dorm. You know, Tommy, if we got
a case of beer, I would drink twenty two and Tommy.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Would drink two.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
This is the way we were personality read. And there
was the four pieces of chicken. Well, we both liked
the white meat, and we mostly did that the whole season,
twelve games and I guarant them to you, I ate
the white meat twelve times. That was a battle for
the white meat.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Think about that, man, y'all fight white fight. We'll fight
o day, still fight over the white chicken. That is hilarious.
Oh my god. So what so Tommy got nothing in
the deal. Tommy got two beers out of twenty four
and he had and he didn't get the preferred white
meat chicken.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
I I want Eddie O to be in charge of
the college football playoffs just so they can talk to
him each week on the on the Tuesday night show.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He's amazing. That would be good. That make him the commissioner,
make him the committee lead. That's got to come out
and talk at least make it entertaining.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Riese would say, now, and why did you guys put
LSU number three?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
They have four watters that show well, you know reads,
I'm got to connection to that ls.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You go tigers right high every week.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I have to tell you, I'm a I prefer the
dark meat chicken. Now I eat the whole. I eat
a whole damn half chicken. And this is why missus
Max trying to regulate me. But I I thigh is
the best piece of chicken, and to me, drumstick is
piece too.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I like the dark meat. Man, I'm not turning got
along with Eddio. I'm not turning any of it down.
But I lean white meat though, are you really?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah? And the thing isn't my household. I'm the only
one that likes anything but chicken breasts. So we get
a rotisserie chicken. I get six pieces. The rest of
the family shares two breasts. It's an amazing way to live, man,
it really is, all right? Anyway, let me put along.
That makes me sound even sadder, doesn't it? All right?
Let's move along. By the way, someone asked about Philip
(41:21):
Rivers range of age for his kids two years old
to twenty three geez, and how many damn weddings is
he gonna be paying.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
For his oldest His oldest is old enough to date. Beljack,
how many, dude, how many are girls? And dude, thank
god he made millions because this dude's got seven girls
to gonna pay for seven damn weddings.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Alright, anyway, well he's got to come back and play.
That could be it right there. It's a good point,
all right. Last clip.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
We have to invite the cak nipples to the river's weddings.
That'll be like a thousand people there.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Last clip. Bone sounds with fun with audio. Uh. This
is a comment that was made about barbecue, but apparently
sounded like it was dirty. This is Kendrick Perkins talking
about his preference of what you know he likes or
does it like in terms of sauces. And then Malika
Andrews makes the comment listen to this and I'm not
(42:16):
a big Sauls guy.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
So when I'm going on the chicken tilky, I ain't
getting ranching out.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I don't know none about. All right, we're gonna move
on now we're talking about chicken. We're talking about chicken.
Big perk, big perk. That was not at all for
the woman's married. That was not some sort of weird
not for what did perk did Perk.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Think he was getting propositioned by a coworker live on ESPN?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
No, when Innocent something something something on our show, when
innocent comments sound dirty? That was funny. When we come.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Back, Shena Quit talks Panther's How worried should we be
about this?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Eight? Part two. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ
The first round in any bracket I've ever filled out,
which has not always been good for me. But I
love Cinderella, and I just don't love Cinderella in football.
I'm gonna be first and foremost honest, Like, yes, have
we seen Boise knockoff Oklahoma before?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Have we seen G five teams beat Power five teams before? Absolutely?
But the gap in today's day and age with finances
and personnel has gotten wider than ever, and yet we're
still carving out of place for not one, but two
G five teams. Don't you feel like there needs to
be some barrier to entry for a G five champion.
(00:51):
Shouldn't there be some strength of schedule requirement for them
to be been to be eligible? How would you solve
the group of five dilemma?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'd only let one team in.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So basically, you know, we realized whenever these new systems
are put into place, it's really hard to prepare for all.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
The unintended consequences. You know, I think about it all
the time of like Cbas. There you go, that is
Ryan Riscilla, who in his free time spends time thinking
about Cbas. Bo Very Riscilla. Like fount here, it is
it is. He's, uh, yeah, that's that's on brand. That's
on brand for him. But anyway, that is Greg McElroy
(01:31):
and his podcast. Ryan Rosillo guests there and these this
is one of three changes in hell. If you guys
want to suggest more, throw them in here. I mean,
there's so much talk Bone about the flaws of this
playoff system. It is just the second year, so there
is an element of, hey, do we want to change
every year? Do we want to let some of these
things play out? I would like to let the twelve
(01:53):
team field play out longer, but it feels inevitable it's
headed to sixteen. If not next year, you know the
year after that. But we could talk about the whole
expansion thing with the right number is It seems like
y'all are mixed on that On the text line, what
do you think Bone about the idea of the group
of five? You know, Lugan Bill said this to us
last week, and since then, I've heard a lot of
(02:14):
people say the same thing. I don't know if I
can really argue that it's not basketball right, There's just
it's just the money involved, the financial differential from level
to level basketball. You think that a team could go
on some sort of a run, whether that from three,
whether they their goal may not be to get to
(02:35):
the championship game, but if they got to the late
a final four, Cinderella will end up being a storyline.
It's hard pressed to see mac Ajmu going on like
the Final four running. Lugan Bill said, it's two different games,
and he is one that believes there should be a
group of five playoffs. Josh Pate said that as well,
what do you think about this? Do you just take
group of five like auto? Like right now? Bone the
(02:58):
system was designed to give them one auto. This was
a kookie year with the ACC, and like I said earlier,
if the ACC just simply changes their tiebreaker, they could
have avoided this this year. If every conference makes their
tiebreaker so that after head to head it's based on
your CFP ranking. If every conference would do that, we
could probably eliminate this and ensure that it'll be only
(03:19):
one group of five. I kind of like one group
of five, one Cinderella. The issue is when you look
at that first four games in the first round and
two of them look like complete blowouts. I don't think
that's good for I don't think the two teams is
good for business.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Especially with how much we talk and discuss how much
money is involved in these games. And look, we just
talked about how we're sad that the regular seasons ended
for college football outside of Army Navy, and there's some
bowl games on Saturday, but the regular routine of those
Saturdays is now gone. So now we're putting all of
our emotional investment into the college football playoff first round games.
(03:58):
And now we have two on the same day, back
to back on Saturday. Where you go, that doesn't really
feel like a day where it's like a circle day,
can't wait, We'll watch, But it feels like Jami Orgon
and then two waye Old Miss. It doesn't feel like
it's a games where I'm like, I can't wait to
watch them play. One is one thing, but I love
the David versus Goliath feel Goliath Where am I from
(04:20):
David Goliath? Feel of one? Matchup? Two feels like it's nice,
that's enough one? So ja could I put one in?
And do you'll do a playoff?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So do you put a rule that only one G
five team can make it? Or do you, like I said,
just kind of get the power forward? To change their
tie breakers so that we don't have the situation with
the ACC where you have some you know, five lost
team in the championship game by virtue of a weird
common opponent tiebreaker type thing. Maybe you just do that.
This texter says you got to make them top twenty
(04:53):
to be eligible. Well, yeah, Herbstreet and Rees Davis, Herbstring,
Reese Davis. Couldn't that bring that up fast enough? I
mean to, Lane and Jmu were announced Bone in the
playoff field, and within three minutes, Reese and Herbie we're
talking about the idea of making them be top fifteen
or top twenty be eligible. Like they did not hold back.
(05:14):
They basically let the world know, yeah, we don't like
this whole thing, you know, with these two teams in there.
But yeah, it's just if those two games are routes Bone,
I could easily see something like that coming because they
do like to react, you know, to the Stuart Mandel's point,
the BCS would react every year tweak the formula based
on the controversies from year year. So if these two
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games are blowouts boned next weekend, I think it feels
like there's definitely gonna be some sort of reaction submitted
from the city says he thinks it should be top
fifteen two to one zero number. If you want to
talk about the financial gap, I think bring up the
fact that letting G five teams in the playoffs is
huge for those G five programs from a financial standpoint,
helps them build up. By not letting it compete backs
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up a monopoly between powerhouse teams, well the power four bone.
They want to get as close to a monopoly as
they can legally without getting sued. And Joel Klatt came
out the other day and was like, the only reason
that they have this spot that is there at least
one per year for a group of five champ is
to avoid litigations. Yeah, there's probably something to be said
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for that as well.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So mac not every group of five each year is
created equals.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
We went through a run there where we thought Boise
State may be able to like back, you know, ten
fifteen years ago, we thought Boise State could go ahead
and win the whole damn thing. That's how good Boise
State was for a while. So there would be years
where it's like, oh, yeah, Boise State should be one
of those teams app State has that moment where they
compete with the big dogs. But I don't think these
teams this year are on the level of those past teams.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Look at last year. Last year is Boise State, and
I thought no Logan Bill said, oh, he was on
the sideline, So I mean, I'm going against the guy
that was on the sidelines for the game that knows
way more football than me. But he said you could
tell the difference sween Penn State and boys. Yeh, I'm
sure you could physically right size in the trenches and
Penn State one in the trenches. But like, I didn't
think that game was a complete embarrassment, like these two
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games feel like they could be. They will probably be embarrassments.
I mean, hell too, Lane already lost by five toutties
and they're the one that's the lower underdog. Yeah, you're
lost by five tutties to Old Miss. Now they're playing
them again. Now, would you've done help? That doesn't help matter?
In fact, it's a replay of a thirty five point game.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Would it make any sense at all for a group
of So is this what we're talking about at all?
A group of five team gets in and then they
would they still do a group of five playoff, it
just wouldn't include the highest ranked group of five.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, I guess that's the discussion. They'll get one, then
the rest to go play. Do you put them out
completely have their own playoff or do you include one
everybody else has a playoff? That's what I w do.
That's both world. I think that's that's the thing. But
but if it's the question is how much interest is
they're in a group of five playoff? Is there less
interest if you take the best team out? All those
sort of things, what do you think about the war
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or on the Tuesday Night Show, even Kirk Kerbstreet Bone
admitted his own network's Tuesday night show should go away.
Stuart Mandel and The Athletic points out there's a problem
with that theory. It's written into the contract and a
new six year contract is getting ready to start and
that is in the contract. ESPN gets that as value
that they get this Thursday night show to hype up
and all that stuff. But Stuart Mandel also made good
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points about like does it box them into the core
into corners when they do this weekly ranking show? Like
he brought up the example of could they have just
left Alabama out if they didn't do weekly ranking shows,
because no one would know that you're penalizing them for
the conference title game performance. It would be literally just
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look at everybody's full resumes at the end. I'm gonna
be honest, I might be the only person in America
I kind of like the Tuesday night shows as a
content provider. I kind of like the fact that it
gives us content to debate and discuss each week. I
hate to agree with you one thousand percent, it's not
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what we love to do, but I had biased I
had the same thought for where we stay. We're biased
on why would we not love what that show brings
us for discussion, the audio that it brings us from
whoever's in charge says something goofy or someone on the
panel you know, has some thought. No, it's for what
we do here, not just an average fan point of view,
but from the media to host a show that gives
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us too much content for me to say, get rid
of that one. Yeah, we're being selfish on this one,
all right. We need the stupid weekly debates that don't
mean anything because they're just gonna flip flop teams at
the last minute. So what we debate means nothing. I
but if you could put on your Commissioner of college
football hat, if there was a commission of college football.
I understand Stuart Mandel's point, and I think the best
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way to do it would be the way college basketball
does it. One one show, give you your top whatever,
and then go away for a while, and then come
back with the final rankings. Right, So it gives you
a look at how the committee is thinking. It gives
you a little taste of it. But it's not this
every week thing that can be held against them at
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the end. You know, But I will do we need
do we need the guy in charge talking every week
when it's not even finalized yet. Also, well, that's the
thing is that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
This guy's not like we do it the whole way
through that show, and it's like it's gonna change though
what he may say the first one will be completely dished.
So I would I would get rid of that guy
talking the whole.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's not a good look for that because they come
whoever it is, they come across as full of bleep.
They come across as one week they value this, so
next week they value that. Their inconsistencies are on display,
So I agree with you that would be part of
the case for doing away with the shows, is that
why do we make them go up there with their
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BS crap every week? It just it makes you distrust
them even more.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Doesn't matter Ry Reese ask the guy's gonna spin it
to way? It doesn't, none of it, None of that.
I I'm there usually back for the rankings, and then
I'll go back later and figure out whatever the person
said that we need, you know what I mean, I'm
not I'm not there to watch that guy stumble around
whoever's in jars.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So I don't think that's listen. If I was running
college football, I don't think the weekly shows are for
the best. If I'm doing a talk show where we
can get on here and scream about it every week
on a Wednesday morning, yeah, I kind of like it.
So I guess I'm kind of admitting that maybe they
should do away with it. But the thing is, good
luck doing away with it. It's in the contract for
the next six years. ESPN finds value in that. But
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it was amazing that Herbstreet admitted that he shows are
a problem. It makes you wonder if the guy's involved
like don't like do they like it or do they
think this is stupid?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Clearly Herbstreet.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
But you know how we had Kelly Staffer on the
lead voice for ESPN Radio's college football coverage, and he's
on Tuesday even he said, the.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Balls might not like me, but the show's got to go.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I have a suggestion, though, what if we had Wayne
Gretzky read off all the team names each week?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That could snoice it up a little bit. Note Ray Dame.
He'd have some name up there, wouldn't they that could
spikes it up a little bit like the old World
Cup draw. Last thing. And I don't even know is
this even worth like debating? This is why we put
this last. You know, multiple people are saying, sixteen teams
feels watered down. What's this one? Sixteen teams is inevitable?
(12:18):
Don't even talk about it? Yeah, that's I mean, that's
my point is it feels like it's inevitable it's going
to sixteen teams, especially when a team like Notre Dame,
as good as they are, the brand, they are, as
whiny as they are. It feels like bone you know,
that's going to even give more AMMO to putting it
up to sixteen teams, but it feels inevitable. I do
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think though you talk about college football having the best
regular season, well, one of the main reasons it has
the best regular season is it's always felt like it
mattered more and the games matter less. Now with a
twelve team playoff, you had sixteen games. The regular season
games meet even less. Like I do feel like there's
nothing wrong with a good team or two being left out,
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Like there's nothing wrong with an exclusive postseason. You were
just at four teams two years ago, and we could
be bony in three years quadrupled, Like it doesn't feel
necessary to do this, get more of a sample size
to see how twelve works. But it feels like their
minds are made up already and it's just a matter
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of how do they do it? And can they get
Petiti to shut up about this stupid twenty fourteenth.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, you know, you go to twenty four What are
teams going to schedule to just get into that thing?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Also, by the way, what are we going to.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Lose some of these non conference early season matchups that
we were already got our teams? Yeah, our team just
going to go ahead and schedule however there four or
five cupcakes, whatever it is. And then the way they
go with their calling, don't water it down, don't water
this down, Like that's the I think that the imperfections
of the sport, the imperfections almost make it perfect. Like
we know it's not perfect, but that's what we love
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about it is the chaos, is the craziness.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I love the debate.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It is the debates, Like if it was a perfect sport,
it wouldn't be probably loved as much. It's the craziness,
the wild that's the debates that make college football what
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think that's a good point. They try to always
make it perfect. We're trying to make it more like
the NFL. I love the NFL too, actually a college
football more, but I love the NFL too. But it's
like I love the fact that they're different, you know.
And so I kind of like the chaos at debates,
the our conference versus your conference, Like I like all
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that stuff. And I just think that twelve it feels
like a good number to me. A lot of y'all
are favor of sixteen, but maybe all are. Notre Dame
fans texted in.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's your number on this what's your what's your perfect
number eight?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So you think it's already watered down too much.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I was never in favor of expanding from four from
four to twelve. I'm not a favor of expanding from
twelve to sixteen. God forbid we go all the way
to twenty four, like Rick Neuheisel was suggesting the other
day when he was on the Dan Patrick Show. But
I think this year, mack was is the perfect case
for there not to be an expanded playoff. Now Notre
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Dame would disagree with you, but I think if you
just tweaked the system about how you go about it,
I do think there's a there's a there's a gap
between these teams that are ten and two when you
get to the nine and three teams. And I just
don't think if you've got three losses in a twelve
game schedule, I don't care what damn conference you play in.
Should you be playing for a national championship? To me,
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that interest no.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I think we need to remind ourselves, and by ourselves,
I mean those cry babies in South Bend. I think
we need to remind everybody bone that a couple of
years ago, the fifth team was the first team out.
We really just worried about eleven and twelve were really
acting like there was like notre names, act like there
was a federal crime committed because the team that's either
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eleventh or twelfth was listed out of the college football
playoff And just a couple of years ago, Bone, if
you were fifth, you were left out, and for how
many years if you were third you were left out,
And then before that you could go unbeaten, like the
great Penn State Nitney Lions in nineteen ninety four. But
because of Boll tie ins, you don't even get to
play for a national title. So I think we need
to remind ourselves where we've been in the past and
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how badly teams have gotten screwed or how good teams
that missed out in the past were, and tell people
to shut the heck up bone that are ranked eleventh
or twelfth and are crying like they're entitled to a
guaranteed spot.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I know it, I know it crossed over for a
couple of years back. But how would the social media
world in this day and age deal with the bcs
of like you said, the one and two getting in yeah,
or how about before the BCS.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
How about before the BCS when teams couldn't play each
other for the national title because they were tied into bowls,
and then voters just decided who the national champion. Was
so confusing. Could you imagine how angry college football social
media would have been back in the day.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And back then you couldn't watch it ever again like you
can watch now. You the national champions were determined by
writers that were in a select handful of games and
box scores, like this is a great sport, this sport
to death. But from the time they started crowning champions
to today, it has been flawed every step of the way.
And it's but it's gotten better though. Yeah, it's as
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much as I still flawed. It's kind of like kind
of like you Mac as you you've improved in every
aspect of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Thank you, you're still flawed. I'll take it. I'll take that.
I'll take that half complient and for you bound. Thank you. Flaud.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
They call me as my fraud look, fraud woman, flawed
or fraud would you call me?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Would you call me flawed? I never call you a
fraud on the air.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
That's why I called myself fraudle mean anyway, when we
come back when the South or not. The Panthers have
made progress this year, but who or what has made
the biggest leaf.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
During the season. Sports Radio ninety two seven w f
n Z.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Bryce Young, through the first couple of years of his
career has had some moments that could have absolutely broken him.
His mental toughness has manifested itself over and over again.
And now you're in a point where, first of all,
you got a head coach that believes in him and
does everything he can to support him and make him successful.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That helps.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
And also once you get for the second year in
a row, once you get to a point where you go,
I don't care how bad the first half of the
season was, we can get this thing together and we
can play with confidence down the stretch. You start to
do that, you start to stack those seasons. Now you
gotta get out of the gate better, which is what
I thought the Panthers were going to do this year,
and they wound up not doing it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
But I love that aspect of Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Mike Garret follow NFL Network giving a little love to
Bryce Young and his mental toughness. He's pretty dang physically
tough too. Don't let the small frame fool you. Man.
This dude could take some shots and keep on ticking
as well. You saw the Atlanta game and how he
played Bone on that banged up ankle. But I love it.
I love hearing good stuff from the national media. In
regards to Bryce, I do want to do this right now.
(19:13):
Make sure, because we got it. We're giving away four
pack of Hornets tickets basically every hour the rest of
the show. So I want to make sure Bone we
give everybody a chance to get in here and win
tickets in a seven o'clock hour, and then if you're
listening to eight o'clock hour, you'll get your chance. Nine
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this four day break against the Bulls on Friday night.
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Tomorrow night at the Hive. You can get a family
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if you think that sounded weird, wait until our fun
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with audio segment at seven forty five. You must hear
the discussion about barbecue that Kendrick Perkins and Melika Andrews
had on ESPN. This was a doozy you talk about
comments that were not meant to sound dirty but ended
up sounding dirty. Bone.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh yeah, So anyway, we got that coming up at seven.
Can you spell bulls one more time for us?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm not sure I can. I'm lucky I got there
at once because you l l s. Thank you get
it wrong. Yeah, it's not bulls, not balls.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You It's amazing how they always go the route of perversion.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes, well with our with our audience. I don't know,
are they too dumb to spell bulls or are they
just perverted? Fair point? I'm penn audience. I love y'all, man,
y'all the best man Christmas gift. I can have. Is
that y'all listen to this goofiness? All right, so let's
do this, man. Listen, we got a big game for
our Falcon our Falcon games. It was straight faced our
Falcons tonight against the Bucks. I guess we got to
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do that tonight, and then of course Panthers and Saints
on Sunday. I just want to spend a minute bone
before most of our cause, as a matter of fact,
it feels like all our Panther conversations after this are
going to be about the Saints, because we have to
know your enemy. Saints edition conversation later on the show
at nine o'clock, and then tomorrow is going to be
all about the Saints game specifically. How worried are you?
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Know you're worried about it? Are they going to get
it done? Do you believe that they can kind of
string another put another good performance out there after the
Rams game all that stuff. So allow us to pause
for a second and just kind of reflect a little
bit here on how far we have come to this point,
regardless of whether we win the South or not. And
I want this so badly, and I do think it
is so gettable with the way the Bucks have played,
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but regardless of whether we win it or not, there's
no denying the progress that the Panthers have made. So
I want to kind of talk about the areas where
we have progressed the most. Bony. So think back to
the way that you felt about this team before the season,
not just bone everybody, you know, all the Panther fans listening,
and where we are now, what's an area, Maybe it's
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a part of the team, or maybe it's literally one person,
Like who is a person or what is a thing
on or about this team that you look at and say, man,
in thirteen games, I feel so much better about him,
or so much better about this Like what areas and
what players and coaches and people in the organization fit
this description.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Well.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
One that comes to mind is a guy that we
brought up a couple times a few days ago. That's
Mike Jack at the other corner spot. I know he
had a couple of rough moments this year, and he's
not perfect, but I think he's the ideal guy across
from J. C.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Horn.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He will get targeted a lot, things will happen, but
I think Mike Jack Matt We talked about the secondary
in the other corner spot a lot in the offseason
throughout the year. Early on, I should say I feel
very confident at the level that Mike Jacket is playing
at right now, much better than maybe I felt earlier
this season.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
No, I think that's a good call. I think that's because, well,
I'll be honest with you, I'm trying to look at
his game by game log here on PFF. All right,
when he was in that stretch bone where he gave
up one hundred against this PFF, I'm not saying it's
gospel that these were you know that he exactly was
responsible for these yards. But at corn to PFF, he
was responsible for six catches on six targets for one
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hundred and eight yards. Against Miami, Waddle gave him some trouble.
And then the game after that was New England and
Stefan Diggs gave him fits one hundred and twenty four
yards corn to PFF on seven completions right in that period.
And then there was an eighty one yard or bone
in week four though oh no, hold on, it was okay,
I got wrong. Eighty one yards New England. That was Diggs,
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one hundred eight against Miami that was Waddle and then Pickens.
I forgot about Pickens was the next one hundred and
twenty four yards. PFF said. Jackson gave up so in
that stretch right there, bone, I believe that we might
need to draft a corner in the first round. To
your point, since then, Bony has not given up more
than thirty five yards in a game in coverage. It
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has been one hundred percent completely different in their intent.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
They're winning more. It's not a coincidence. Right that day,
he's playing at that level. And yep, and they beat
the Rams without J. C. Horn my jack was it
was essentially an in facto number one corner against the Rams.
Gave up only thirty five yards in his coverage. So
I think that's a I think that's a good example.
I mean, I'll just say Dan Morgan, I mean, I
don't know if that's a cop out answer, and maybe
we need to get more specific about the team and
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the players and units on the team and stuff like that.
But Dan Morgan, just the first off season the O line,
you saw how much he improved the old line. Well,
look at his second off season, look at this rookie group.
I mean, it's unbelievable. The contributions you got for all.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
These different rookies, including guys that aren't even draft I mean,
you have an undrafted kicker that said three game winners
for you. I mean, and can you know rookie kickers.
I mean, that's a crapshoot. When you go with a
rookie kicker and he's been absolute fits money for us.
Bone you go with the work he did to improve
the defense. I mean, guys like Mary added to this defense,
guys up front, the way he improved his defensive front.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
So to me, I was gonna make his special teams
as a whole because remember when the offseason we said,
well that's a lot of moving parts on special teams.
That unit has been very consistent and he concerns and
I feel like we haven't really had too many staff
foods with the special team.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think etnz. I I'm not sure
we got the greatest return game in the NFL. Bone
coverage I think other than the New England game has
I feel like it's pretty good. Sam Martin's been solid.
He's a free agent game, but he's been solid. The
longs I missed. The long steping is elite, by the way,
vote JJ Janssen for the dang Pro Bowl. This man
is only tenth in the voting. It's a Travis step.
(25:57):
This man's been I mean since Washington was president. This
man's been stapping football. So all right, I give this
dude some vote. Hey, he's put the time in ninety two.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Can you help us out of here with the executive
order Pro Bowl voting?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I see what I can do. Do you think ninety
two doesn't know what we're talking about right now? I'm
talking about J. J. Jansen? Man, you go your bone? Okay?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
The word?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Why is you guy to take a shot at Bobby Addle?
Sally comes back this week? He could be texting right now, Seattle.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Sally's coming back this week, gets back in Charlotte on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I knew you had a bounce to your step this week.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Baby down Sally. Oh my god, that has nothing new
with the girl Mac. The Panthers play a big time
football game on Saty do man they do? That's the
most important damn thing in my life right now?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
What else? All right? Seven oh four or five, seven
oh nine, six cent chime in on this. When you
if you could think back to how you felt before
the season, and now how you feel what the progress
this team has made? Who or what about this team?
Do you feel better about something? I mean, a bunch
of people are just saying defense of Verro's name is
getting mentioned. He's getting he's he's getting some waugh. Yes,
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if Iy's had a good has has had maybe his
best pass protection season. I'm I'm not saying he's a,
you know, elite past protector. I don't even think i'd
say he's a great pass protector at this point. I
do think he's improved, and I do think he's worthy
of the extension that it feels like he is inevitably
getting boned this offseason.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
You know, we have some news here from texter named
Mick Hoonky all right, quote the Banduel text quote. I
hate being this guy, but I rewatched the Saints game
and the field goal block was on JJ Janssen.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
How dare you, sir? How dare you block him? Speaking
of blocks, McConkey out of here, baby, out of here.
We'll catch you after the new year. This block's on you?
How dare you? I don't even remember that, so I
don't I can't argue it. I don't even remember it.
I'm trying to bring myself Bone to go back and
watch it for context for tomorrow show. I was gonna
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do it last night, but I was like, I want
to watch this Stuart Scott thing way more like I
just I'm having a hard time bringing myself to relive it,
relive that bleep show. Can you watch the goal block
and see if got ran over to you the fear goal.
But I'm gonna be fair and honest about it, all right,
But I'm still gonna tell you to vote for JJ
regardless for the Pro Bowl. How about the offensive line coaches.
I mean, we already thought they did an amazing job
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Bone in our first year, Gilbert and Goodie, but this
second year Bone the depth been tested even more. And
I mean we were down to Jake Kerhan, somebody the
most Panther fans didn't even know existed until last week.
Bon't and he's out there playing solid. I mean, so
a lot of it has to do with Dan Morgan
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keeping the O line depth together, and a lot of
O line depth guys are free agents again this season,
Brady Christianstan korbs Maye like, so they've got some work
to do with those Nymans Diamonds a free agents. So
but those those two guys. Man, every year I grow
in faith with our O line coaches.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Jerry from me, I'll mix on the text line, he
says Van Wallace after the green dot switch. It's a
good one there. Yeah, he's definitely been a positive here.
Also Mac down the line, Well, that's a great call,
very good call. Also down the line here. Oh, I
can't believe this one, Doc, I cannot believe he's mentioning
Nick Scott needing some law for the ways played lately.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I think he's been better than we thought he would be.
Now he's a free agent, pay off season, I'm sure
he needs to be a priority. But yeah, made the plague,
made the interception against the Rams, had a big tackle
near the line against the Rams late in that game. Yeah,
I think he's been better. I think he's been better
than we thought. But again I think we thought that
in fairness, I think we thought he'd played like fittiot
(29:39):
at safety. What is your problem?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
You stole my damn first basement and you're being mean
to me? How many emotional wreck over here? A finished Jellowstone,
I lost, Peter Alonzo Seattle Sally comes.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Back isn't that good that Seattle Sally's.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Coming back depends not for her, not for her. Mac
was waiting for the show today. Mac was watching Polar
Bear videos today.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Oh, I cannot wait. I'm gonna monitor your Twitter. I
should come in and I should order a Polar Bear outfit,
mascot outfit, and then wear it in here and just
see how mad Fitty gets. Because the Orioles stole pedal ons.
It'd be a great troll job at your cheap. So
I am you're right, you think that's a very good call.
I can't get that past the Senate. My wife barely.
(30:23):
Who needs the Senate? Just executive order things. That's what
I do when I don't get my way. Listen, every
two piece snack at bow Jangles, I'm wondering if it's
gonna get flagged when my wife goes through our financial record.
I'm like, oh, I squeezed that two piece snack in
there this week. That should go to order. A Bojangles
is a two piece snack because yeah, because it's cheap,
(30:44):
goes back to the whole cheap. Okay. Yeah, one day, Fitty,
one day you may have a woman to answer to, or.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Maybe you might not we needs a woman when you
got a Flounder's.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Fitting that a person can only order two pieces of exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I get that four times. The text line will ignore
that one. I'm sure Fitty's like, what's wrong with you?
You gonna diet? What's you're gonna waste away? Fiddy didn't
know you can't order only that.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
We have a text that it says Seattle Sally's arriving
this weekend. So what do y'all think Monday? By the
time she runs from Fiddy and goes back west, this
is gonna end like a Hallmark movie. She's gonna end
up in love with Founder Pegnata. They're gonna good, and they're.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Gonna go sell by Christmas in a small town.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Would that not be a plot twist? If flound pulled
the robbery, would that not be the plot twist of all?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Plot twist don't involve that pouch sitting under a missile
tone this time of the Yearbone my god, there are
so many strays right now, I can't count.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I'm root see mag I don't know if I root
for Flounder.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He deserves this, dude said somewhere Fat Mac just heard
Skinny mack say that he orders a two piece snack
and is disgusted. Yeah, that's true. That is so true.
My wife doesn't like me eating a lot of fast
food either, because you know the whole thing about it
killing me type thing I used to I told the
story all the time. I used to sneak trips to KFC,
(32:09):
Like I literally would get cash out of the bank
so she couldn't trace the KFC purchase. I would eat
it on my way home, and then my wife would
have dinners when we worked in the middays, so I
would be getting home at like five, my wife would
have dinner ready and I wouldn't even be hungry, and
I have to fake the funk and just eat dinner
because I just had some on the down low sneak KFC.
Did she find like your stack of boxes in the
(32:30):
backseat of the car at one point that was like
a storyline on the shoe. I had a box I
didn't clear out. It was under the seat and it
was sticking out, and she saw it sticking out and
she's like, well, have you been going to KFC? And
I'm thinking to myself, yeah, like thirty times in the
last two months.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You should have lied and said, oh my god, somewhat
broke into my car and stopped speak box underneath my seat.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I always told my wife, I said, you don't have
to worry about me cheating on you with anybody but
the colonel. You know what I mean. The Chris feels
like that's the one thing that I have not I have.
I have stepped down on her and mister Field, Colonel Sanders,
you know any of these people? Oh, Matt, I have
an honest moment here?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Am I the only one that finds uh the voice
on the uh, the AI voice on the bow Jangles
drive through?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Got a got a digginger rightly a little bit. I
don't like, Oh, bo Linda, do you? I think? I think?
But Linda and I have Well, that's the woman I
talked to the most. You start, you start saying, there's
like seven people beeping behind bone because she sees striking
up a conversation with the AI voice at the Bojangles
drive through. Oh man, you come here often, but Linda.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
She's always friendly. She always talks back to me when
we come back. Fun with Audio. We're gonna talk about
what happened with the barbecue reference on ESPN story in
Time with Eddie O and old Man. Rivers talks yesterday
about his family's reaction to his return. Sports Radio ninety
two seven WFNZ Mack and Bone.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ. We gotta have a
little fun with audio. I see that Sheena Quick, who
by the way, is coming up on the show top
of the hour to talk Panthers Love, talking Panthers football
with Sheena. I see that she tweeted out Bone. I
just noticed this that she tweeted out Cam's reaction on
his fourth and one podcast while talking to his man
Peggy about Philip Rivers getting the call from the Colts
(34:44):
at forty four, but Cam at whatever he is, thirty
six doesn't get the call. I can't. I've got to
keep listening. I'm trying to figure out he's they're so goody,
he's so goofy. I can't tell, like he gets serious
for a second and that he's goofing off. So I can't.
I can I can't really tell if he's like, is
he mad about it? I'm trying to decipher that. So
do you gonna study this some more?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
During the break, then Fidy's guy Peggy gets involved and
there's a lot going on in the.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Way they edit those videos. At some point they start
singing I won eat no, but what I don't know?
So I think Cam might be saying, you know, he
doesn't really want to be a backup.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I know the headline set it felt disrespectful or something.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Well he said that in there initially, but then five
seconds later he's goofing off, So I'm like, did he
really feel disrespected? Am I glad that he didn't get
a call?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Like? Am I wrong to?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I don't want to see Cam in another uniform again,
Like I I hated the way it ended in New
England and the way it ended here. I should remember
Cam in the good times. I just lack him blue.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I just don't feel like Cam was right physically. However,
many years ago that was we saw him last, and
I just I'm not sure he's right physically now, Like
how long can that shoulder? Seemed like there was serious,
you know, damage done to that shoulder. So I'm not sure.
And I blame Kelvin Benjamin for not making it and
(36:00):
Cam had to and I blame uh, you know, young TJ.
Watt as well, But like I just plus I gotta
be honest. Cam looks like he's having a blast. I don't.
I don't want to see him go out there and
like be mocked if he does. If he can't throw
the ball down field, Remember he couldn't even throw the
ball downfield. You and to bring someone in to throw
the hail Mary for him?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And how And I mean, yeah, how long can he
How long can he throw the ball down field? Even
if he can do it, like for one game? Could
he be consistent with that? That was the problem at
the end there, Max Sycamore shout out to Denise there
on the FanDuel text lin, Max, check out what she
just said. In there, it's a picture of a polar
bear wearing an Oriels jersey.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
There we go, baby, Now we're talking. Now we're talking. Oh,
people are telling me he sang the number one song
because he wants literally jersey number one. And he said
he couldn't play for the Colts anyway because Sauce Gardner
has number one. That's what I'm saying. I don't get
the feeling. Bone he's being very serious about you know
what I mean, Like, I don't get the feeling. I
think I think him, he says I'll never retire. I'll
never announce retirement. But I think he I think he
(36:56):
kind of knows. I think he kind of What if he.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Came back back with a specially designed helmet where he
cuts out the top and he puts his hair through
the top of the helmet.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
That would be That would because of fashion forward. That
would be fashion forward. All right, let's try to run
through these cuts real quick, because you've got a bunch
of fun with the audio that we need. Now, let's
start with Philip Rivers on the reaction of his family
when he let them know for the first time in
five years, I'm playing NFL football. They've been very supportive.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
You know. I think my younger children are most excited.
I shouldn't say most excited. They're excited because they don't
remember dad playing. You know. My six year old actually
asked me like four months ago, like, Dad, why don't
you play anymore?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
And I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (37:32):
The best you're gonna get his me coaching on the sideline,
you know, because they were seeing you know, highlight or
they're pulling up some you know old games. Uh, my
boys were fired up, obviously, but I think share the
same sentiment a little nervous, like, Dad, you can do
you think you can do it, you know. And then
my older girls are real excited because they're they're a
little bit confused, you know, they're like, shoot, I was twelve, you.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Know some of them.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
You know, now all of a sudden they're grown adults,
married and and they remember sixteen years old going to
the ball game. So it's, uh, it's been, it's been.
It's been a whirlwind for forty eight hours. I'll say it.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Took him a while to get the opinions of all
involved in his family because he had to go through
about forty five of them all down. I mean, he's
got little ones, he's got he's a grandfather now, so
he's got you know, kids with kids, and he's gonna
be playing in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
He's avoiding five freaking years thinking.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
He's avoiding the chaos of the holiday season at the house.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That could do it, Yeah, that could That could definitely. Well,
I mean, I'm pretty sure in that house, buthing there's
chaos every season, that's true. Yeah, could you imagine I
would never I would never have quit football if I
had that many kids. I'm telling you, right, Now, anybody
that's had, like, you know, two little ones, ask KB
about three little ones simultaneously. I mean, you look for
any reason to escape the house for your sanity for
(38:44):
a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I mean, I guess stress and all I have is
a ninety eight year old dog. Let's move along. Sometimes
duties in the house, but it happened.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Let's move along because story time with edwar Zeron is
an amazing thing. We played two great audio clips yesterday
and we can't resist. We got to go back to
Ede ours Ron's interview this week on the Bus and
with the Boys podcast. This is his story about him
and Tommy Tuberville being graduate assistants on the same staff
when they were in their early twenties. Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Me and Tommy Tumbleville were graduates again. We live in
a dormitory. So on Wednesday night, we don't like travel
money for the gas. We get twenty bucks. Okay, so
we go get some beer and at the end we
go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and we get a four piece.
That's all we have left right now. We feel a
pretty good officer. We had a lot of two dollars
for chicken and eighteen dollars for beer. Right, we go
(39:33):
back to the dorm. You know, Tommy, if we got
a case of beer, I would drink twenty two and Tommy.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Would drink two.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
This is the way we were personality read. And there
was the four pieces of chicken. Well, we both liked
the white meat, and we mostly did that the whole season,
twelve games and I guarant them to you, I ate
the white meat twelve times. That was a battle for
the white meat.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Think about that, man, y'all fight white fight. We'll fight
o day, still fight over the white chicken. That is hilarious.
Oh my god. So what so Tommy got nothing in
the deal. Tommy got two beers out of twenty four
and he had and he didn't get the preferred white
meat chicken.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
I I want Eddie O to be in charge of
the college football playoffs just so they can talk to
him each week on the on the Tuesday night show.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He's amazing. That would be good. That make him the commissioner,
make him the committee lead. That's got to come out
and talk at least make it entertaining.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Riese would say, now, and why did you guys put
LSU number three?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
They have four watters that show well, you know reads,
I'm got to connection to that ls.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You go tigers right high every week.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I have to tell you, I'm a I prefer the
dark meat chicken. Now I eat the whole. I eat
a whole damn half chicken. And this is why missus
Max trying to regulate me. But I I thigh is
the best piece of chicken, and to me, drumstick is
piece too.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I like the dark meat. Man, I'm not turning got
along with Eddio. I'm not turning any of it down.
But I lean white meat though, are you really?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah? And the thing isn't my household. I'm the only
one that likes anything but chicken breasts. So we get
a rotisserie chicken. I get six pieces. The rest of
the family shares two breasts. It's an amazing way to live, man,
it really is, all right? Anyway, let me put along.
That makes me sound even sadder, doesn't it? All right?
Let's move along. By the way, someone asked about Philip
(41:21):
Rivers range of age for his kids two years old
to twenty three geez, and how many damn weddings is
he gonna be paying.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
For his oldest His oldest is old enough to date. Beljack,
how many, dude, how many are girls? And dude, thank
god he made millions because this dude's got seven girls
to gonna pay for seven damn weddings.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Alright, anyway, well he's got to come back and play.
That could be it right there. It's a good point,
all right. Last clip.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
We have to invite the cak nipples to the river's weddings.
That'll be like a thousand people there.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Last clip. Bone sounds with fun with audio. Uh. This
is a comment that was made about barbecue, but apparently
sounded like it was dirty. This is Kendrick Perkins talking
about his preference of what you know he likes or
does it like in terms of sauces. And then Malika
Andrews makes the comment listen to this and I'm not
(42:16):
a big Sauls guy.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
So when I'm going on the chicken tilky, I ain't
getting ranching out.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I don't know none about. All right, we're gonna move
on now we're talking about chicken. We're talking about chicken.
Big perk, big perk. That was not at all for
the woman's married. That was not some sort of weird
not for what did perk did Perk.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Think he was getting propositioned by a coworker live on ESPN?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
No, when Innocent something something something on our show, when
innocent comments sound dirty? That was funny. When we come.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Back, Shena Quit talks Panther's How worried should we be
about this?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Eight? Part two. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ
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