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October 7, 2025 • 43 mins

In the second hour, Mac & Bone talk about how the Panthers should handle the RB situation moving forward, with Chuba Hubbard coming off a second injury, and Rico's big game against Miami, What the Bleep returns with a bunch of audio from the sports world, and the guys debate the chances that UNC would fire Bill Belichick after just one season 

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, Tuba, We're gonna evaluate him every day and kind
of see where he's at. And then you know, with
he and Rico that what I take from it is
we have two good backs and so we have to
figure that part out. That's a good problem to have,
but it's something that we have to work through.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ Mack and Bone with you.
I think we all said the same thing Bone, as
coach Canalis said about what do you do when Cuba
comes back and it could happen this week and you've
got Cuba and Rico, but you've got Rico off a
two undred and six yard running game. How do you
handle that workload? Does it change at all? And he

(00:57):
used the phrase it's a good problem to have, and
I think we all agree this. This is a actual
good problem to discuss. Bone. The percentage of Panther problems
discussed on this radio station in the last seven plus years, Bone,
that are good. I believe it is point one, but
it's accurate. This is one of them right here where

(01:18):
you're trying. You got two good players, two thousand yard
backs from last year, two ballers to physical runners at
the same position. So now it's up to the coaching
staff to figure out, when they're both healthy, how do
we get the most out of them. So this one's
a little more fun bone than the normal problems we

(01:39):
talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
It's fun, but it's kind of tricky, right because they
don't feel like they're guys that are you know, have
a guy get a couple carries, take one out. They're
both rhythm based running backs. That's why I think Rico
was so good the other day. Also, the offensive line
on the right side. So this isn't one that's as
simple as to play both. Yeah, you will play both,
but in terms of the percentage carries, that's the question

(02:02):
of how do you play this out? And I think
if Rico goes off again, which is very possible with
his motivation against his former team, and he has back
to back big games, obviously I don't think he's going
for that amount of yards again. But if he has
back to back big games within reason, I don't know
how you sit him down and don't like change. Maybe

(02:23):
the percentage of carries alternate, it flipping around where Rico
gets the high percentage in Cuba gets less, and I.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Want so what do you do this week? What do
you do this week? But if Cuba can play, do
you ease Cuba back in? Bone?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I ease Cuba in, and I'm riding the hot hand,
especially with a guy ticked off at his former team,
like we're going with Dallas Cowboys. I use that this
week for sure. This week, I think it's a Rico week,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think you can easily do that where you give
Rico about I don't know two thirds of the carries,
I would say, and you can easily use it as hey,
we're easing Cuba in if Cuba can even play. Maybe
maybe Rico's per formance allows you to be very safe
with Cuba and make sure bone because you know those
muscular injuries they could keep recurrent. You know, you don't

(03:09):
get those muscles fully healed, same as a hammy that's
a calf injury. So maybe it allows them to sit
Cuba another week, knowing man Rico is feeling good, he's confident,
the line is feeling it, and we have the Dallas factor.
So that's a way that you could play it. I
use the you use the phrase hot hand. That's what
I said yesterday about this, And I don't know if

(03:31):
y'all think this makes any sense. I honestly believe Bone.
You can do it week to week. You can do
it within the game. Who's the one that has it,
who's the one that starts to feel that rhythm? Well,
if you're starting to feel the rhythm, I ain't taking
you out until you need a breather. That sort of
thing like almost, hey, this week, oh shoot Rico, Rico

(03:52):
just hit a couple. Okay, Rico's gonna get DOWNE go
ride him. Next week it might be, oh, look at Cuba.
Cuba just had a couple of big runs. All right, now,
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta feed him some more.
Do you think that makes sense? Or do you think
almost like a basketball rotation, it needs to kind of
be set in stone. I think if you said it
in stone, I don't think you're a good coach. I
think better coaching is Bone. When you have two backs

(04:14):
like that to read the room for lack of a
better it's adapted.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's adapting to what the team is doing that works,
and also willing Mac to run the football. This also
is about Dave Canalis. I think seeing what worked with
Rico the other day, having.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Trust in it.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
And also the way the offensive line played the other day.
You know, Cuba didn't get off to a great start,
but if the offensive line, especially on that right side,
is gonna block that, well, well maybe maybe Chuba can
get going too with the offensive line run blocking that well.
So it's not a bad problem to have the one
thing I would not do. And it's come up a

(04:51):
few times and Bebop's trying to lead that charge. Of course,
is wanting to trade one of them or not. Let's
just have two good running backs. Rico's free agent after
the season. It's okay to have more than one good
player at a position.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I promise. Why do we all cry when we don't
have depth at positions, but when we do have depth
at a position, we try trade to people so we
don't have depth. Again, it's just let's embrace the depth.
Rico's very cheap. Now, this is bringing up bone questions
of the money that Cuba makes. This texta says why
the hell did we pay Cuba if there are plenty

(05:27):
of running backs out there on the cheap that could
produce just like him. And I think that was part
of the debate when we signed him, is are you
pay should you pay a running back that much. Part
of it, I think is they wanted to set the
tone bone guys that are ballers, guys that are culture guys,
we're gonna sign them. I think they want that precedent

(05:50):
set that if you're a leader, you're a culture guy,
you're a baller, You're going to get get kept here.
But that those are the questions that have come up.
This texter says there is no way they run the
guy more that is making Piddley beans compared to the
guy they paid tons of moneys.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Hard to take a guy seriously when he's using the
word pidley beans. Also be careful text because your name
right now might be Piddley Beans.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Line. By the way, Mattie, do you care about that?
Do you think the teams should care about the salaries?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I think maybe Dan Morgan might because he's viewing stuff
as long term. I don't think Dave Canows would. Though
Dave Canallis is trying to win football games each week
to week and try to save his high parts, so
I don't think Dave Canallis is going to worry too
much about, Hey, this guy's making more money, it's who's
winning him football games right now. An excellent point by
d Hancock back on the text line, because when you
want a good point, always trust in Hancock. He says,

(06:48):
think about when teams have to prepare for the Lions,
it Gibbs and David Montgomery. You have to spend a
lot of time on multiple backs. If you have this
kind of mystery with the backs, do teams have to
prepare for both guys, maybe.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Not knowing week to week which one is going to
get the bulk of the garage. It's an interesting point,
I would argue, and everybody over there in that locker
room said the same thing, including Cuba and Rico themselves.
I would argue, these two guys are very similar, whereas
like Montgomery and Gibbs, feels like thunder and lightning. Yeah,
you know, I feel like Rico. I feel like preparing
for Rico and paring for Cuba, you're preparing for in general,

(07:22):
the running game and the gap scheme and the zone
and all that. I don't think this is like the
Lions personally, but I understand what the Texter is getting out.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
What do you think of the wishbone idea that's come
up multiple times today? Run the Wishbone offense.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
We in the seventies, way back in nineteen seventy two,
at least eighties, at least days. Wishbone is also my
dating app name. I will say this, I will say this, Bony,
and we had texters saying this. I know there forty
times in the combine were very similar four or five range,
I thought, and some of the texts said it yesterday.

(07:58):
I thought once they got to the second level, I
thought there was more burst from Rico. Yeah, I thought
so too. Like, Cuba's not a big home run hitter,
and I don't have a huge problem with that, right,
but it's about efficiency in the run game, right, But
I felt there was a little more burst there from Rico.
There's also now terms of big plays.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
There's also the element of Rico in the passing game
that we saw the other day. That's not Cuba's strength.
Although Cuba spends more time with the Jugs Machine than
Flounders spends with Fitty, but it's not really the biggest
part of the game for Cuba. Rico does have that
as a big part of it. Yeah, No, definitely, definitely.
This dude says, let's see here, you guys are nuts

(08:42):
in butts.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
You guys are nuts in butts. If you think Rico
is a better runner than Cuba gets the hard yards,
Rico gets shut down against better d lines.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
In my humble opinion, sorry I lost you at the
first part of that text there. You guys are nuts
and butts.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Listen. It does need to be said that Miami's defense
is just but you know what I mean, and nuts
in buds and ages. But so that does need to
be said. Like if Cuba was playing Bone against Miami,
I'm pretty sure Cuba would have a big game, you know,
although I do question what he ad a fifty three
to forty three yarder. I do you know? And that
goes back to that burst question. I just I just

(09:19):
think Bone they got to find the sweet spot to
try to get the most out of each guy because
I you know, I said it too. I agree fully
that they both like the contact, and guys that like
the contact want to keep wearing defenses down. They want
more and more carries. The better they get you hit me,
I get better. So I do think it's going to
be a tricky situation. I do agree with Mike and Moresville.

(09:42):
If you can find more ways to get them both
on the field simultaneously, even if you flex one out
in the slot or what like. I just think maybe
that should be explored too, I mean get creative.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, maybe maybe Rico where there's pass catching ability more
as a slot guy that can do both. By by
the way, the text line Mac has now taken this
as we don't like Cuba. We have now turned on
Jewba Hubber. Now we are now cubahaters. This is what
they've gotten out of the sea. Now you get that
out of this. We're trying to forget you.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
What could we forget what Cuba did last year? If
you hear us say that Rico Dad should be the
number one back in Cuba, should GT scraps, then you
can say that we are forgetting what Cewba Hubbard did.
I just simply say hotthand I guess he's offended bone
because you said that Rico should be the guy this week.
But I would agree with you. I wouldn't bring him

(10:33):
back Cube off the calf injury. I would go two
thirds Rico, but maybe next week maybe it becomes two
thirds Cuba. I just I'm not what I'm doing though?
Is I am acknowledging that I don't think there's a
huge difference. I'll give AC credit on this. AC was
telling me this Bone on Sunday before the game, said,
I don't think he doesn't think there's a huge difference

(10:54):
between Cuba and Rico, and I don't think there is either.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I think I would be coaching malpractice for this game,
coming up with Cuba off the injury, Rico with an
all time franchise game, playing against a former team who
he's already talking about in the post game for Tube
for U. For Rico not to be the main guy
this week would be a stunner to me. This is
where you ride that hand and then you see where they're.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
At after this. Listen. If he's getting shut down and
Suba's healthy, you know, you go. You got that change
of pace, and if Cuba gets hot, then I ride Cuba.
I mean, it's one of those field things. The question
is will Dave Canalis have that feel in game? That's
a question a lot of a lot of you, and
there's a lot of skepticism as with will even commit
to the run at all Bone, much less two runners.
So that's I mean, that's fair criticism. Although again seventeen

(11:40):
nothing the man stuck with the run went to a
big time. He deserves credit for that bone we have.
We have employed Fitty Bone this week. Oh yeah, as
a guy that we want to personally go after the
Cowboys this week. All right, we want him to prove
to us that he is all about that panther life,
all about that keep pal in life and not about

(12:01):
that how about them life. Fitty Bone dug up a
gem Forrest in the press conference of Brian Schottenheimer. This
was apparently unsolicited. Brian Schottenheimer has heard that Rico Dawdell said,
buckle up to his Dallas Cowboys. Listen to this.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
The main thing they want to do is run the football,
whether it's you know, Hubbard or Rico. And I'd be
good to see Rico this weekend. I know we're gonna
have to buckle up, he said. So we'll bring our
we'll bring our seat belts. Rico, We'll buckle up. I
can't wait to see him though.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
But oo they heard those comments.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh a wise man said on Twitter, the plot thickens,
it does, so what's sweet by mac So what so
what's gonna happen in Dallas is they're going to go
to the defensive guys and start asking about Rico said,
buckle up, yes, and we're probably gonna get a sassy,
salty comment or two.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Or maybe I'm just hoping that as a media member
that like sleation his content, they're gonna they're gonna go
to the main man in Dallas for comment. I'll be
a mister, Jerry Jones. What do you think Jones gonna
get asked? The owner of the Dallas Cowboy. Jerry could
get asked this week, because you know he can't go
a week without doing doing six interviews. He'll probably get
get asked about letting Rico go, though, although Javonte's running

(13:18):
his butt off too. Pretty good, right, he had one
hundred plus our game.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I haven't seen any highlights on the UNC page until
yesterday Williams.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But yeah, I would think Jerry, if he does any interviews,
he does his usual interview right on the radio show,
I would think he might get asked about not signing
Rico because I was shock boned they weren't willing to
pay him a few million a year? Are they gonna
ask MICHAEH. Parsons, Oh, that's never mind longer. Thank god,
we don't have to deal with that guy. He's no
only crap, no longer a Dallas cowboy. How happy do

(13:47):
you think Ikey and Motnard that they don't have to
see that guy this week?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Well?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
How about Brycey?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
He baby Bjorn Bryce a few times where he just
he got there and just like put him to the ground.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Jelly. That was nice of them, you White Brice.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
When we come back on the Mack and Bone Show,
What the Bleep stories in sports and in life that
make us say what the bleep, including a new jersey
man in the headlines this time Sports Radio seven WFNZ.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Alright, alright, y'all, mac here rolling through hour two on
a Tuesday. Hour two on a Tuesday means it's time
for what the Bleep? And usually Bone, this is a
segment of levity, and this is a segment of silliness
and mocking ridiculous things that are done or said for
the purposes of forgetting about Sunday's game. That often is

(14:53):
the case. Not this week, Baby, This week it just
goes in with the vibes. We're in a good mood.
Although I did just hear what Mike Kay said yes
today on Weston Walker that is threatening. That is threatening
my good mood. But anyway, more on that later. Right now, Bone,
it is time to revel in the silliness and the
absurdity of what the bleep? Who are you? What the

(15:15):
bleeping Bone?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
We're gonna start this week in New Jersey, where a
man was trying to game the toll lane system. He
racked up eighteen thousand dollars in fines back because he
kept driving through with socks taped to his license plate
so I couldn't read it. So yeah, they finally got

(15:37):
him for eighteen thousand dollars worth of violation. I think
he had the violations, I guess, and he wasn't paying it,
so then I guess his alternative was I'm gonna keep going,
but I'm gonna tape or whatever socks to my license
plate so I can't read it.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
And they got him. They finally got eighteen thousand dollars in.
They finally got him. So if he just if he
just said, okay, I say fifteen thousand dollars, I'm gonna
stop it now, he would have gotten away with it,
probably yet, right just because he was out there and
they saw it, and they were they they were on
the lookout for it they busted this man. Uh, I
guess you.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Show what the cops actual quote was about his plan.
What's up this plant stinks stinky socks?

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
See what he did there? Not in New Jersey. Listen,
I'll want to. I know it's what the bleep saw?
What the bleep on? He got busted. He's in all
kinds of trouble. Right, There's something I admire and somebody
that hates bone getting the bill in the mail because
I don't have the easy pass thing or quick pass
whatever it's called. So I always get the bill in
the mail of what I owe and then my wife's like, really,

(16:39):
you had to really use that, those those toll lanes
and stuff like that. I kind of respect the move,
and in a demented.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Way, I'm surprised Flounder hasn't taped Northern Flounder hasn't taped
his uh his high socks.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Up to his his vehicle yet. Okay, don't get me
start on Flounder. I hear he's been slandering Bryce Young
behind the scenes too, while wearing that annoying dra Drake
May Patriots Jersey again. My goodness, seriously, anyway, I di
do I digress or regress. I digress. All right, let's
go body to what to bleep? And I've got what

(17:13):
to bleep Amari de Marcado, running back for the Arizona Cardinals.
I also got to what to bleep A d Mitchell
wide receiver for the Indianapolis Colts, And I am what
the bleeping any defacy Deshaun Jackson, any defacy football player
that has ever done what De Marcado did this week
and Ady Mitchell did last week, which is drop the

(17:35):
football right before you score a touchdown. I continue to
ask what to bleep? Why are they in such a
hurry bone to drop the football? I don't understand. Does
it look cool if you drop the ball right at
the goal line? Why would you not make sure you
have the ball when you go into the end zone.
It is one of the dumbest damn things I have

(17:56):
ever seen done in an organized sporting event.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
It's an excuse unexplainable. Also with Mitchell and De Marcado,
they both lost those games. The Rams beat the Colts,
they probably could have used some more points, by the way.
Also in that Cardinals Titans game, yeah it was in
the Cardinals favor when it happened so at a time.
It may not stupid, but it may not matter. It
ended up costing them the football game. Really, when you

(18:20):
think about it, I would have won a three touchdowns. Yeah,
they would not have lost that game.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Instead, they have one of the most horrendous choke job
blown leads in the history of football.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
He got for God's Send got reamed out by Jonathan Gannon.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Also, oh do you hear, but Jonathan Gannon did the
next day they'll apologize to him for yeah, and the
team being apologized. Don't apologize for crap man. Seriously, greg
Olsen probably doesn't think you should apologize because listen to
what Greg Olsen said with Barstool Sports yesterday morning. Bone
he would do to these guys that dropped the damn
football before the end zone. I don't know why guys

(18:51):
have the need to drop the ball.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
If I was a head coach, I'd be like, if
you don't run with the ball to the sideline and
keep it tucked until you get I'm just gonna cut
you ken.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
You just not gonna play for me? Makes sense.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
We don't worry about Panthers dropping the ball before the
end zone because a lot of times bright Stone will
drop the ball the state he dropped the football. My god,
I don't have that problem. But the goal I bryce
drops in the middle of the field sometimes. God, that's
cold man, cold. That was uncalled for.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
That was settled right in your material, flounder, settle down
back there, righting your material. We're going to go to
the state of Florida Mackers where a Florida man, fifty
seven year old Michael Stanik, got caught going one hundred
miles an hour weaving in and out of traffic. As
we always say, it's not about the act, it's about

(19:42):
the excuse. This Florida man says, Oh, this is a
simple one here. I'm late for my appointment with my barber.
How'd that excuse go? It did not go well. He's
been fine.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Also, this was six pm at night and he was
an hour away from where his alleged barber was. So
they figured out, we don't think you're going to we're
not buying your story out buying your hair cut.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Mister standing sounds like a dog ate my homework situation there,
What the bleep we're doing? What the bleep are we doing?
What area of Florida is that?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Do you not know what wa walk Flagler County for Okay,
I walk, Hey, I've not heard of this one.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I feel like I want to start doing a study
of Florida man stories. Do we know if there is
a dumbest area of Florida, Like I've never really thought.
I've always grouped it into one just Florida man stories.
But I wonder if fabody is studied where the big
dufices in Florida livers is just everywhere?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Flagler County and uh Panela's County and pok County seem
to be three.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Is that over there on that's over there on the
Tampa side.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Right, Yeah, and then one of them, I think it was,
was it Pope County yesterday? That story was I'll just
say real quick, there's a guy named Grady uh Grady Judd,
the sheriff. He comes up all the time in these
stories that we do. A Florida man walked into his
police station and stole his photo off the wall because

(21:04):
the guy was a fan appareently John So, Yeah, he
walked in there. By the way, they have cameras. They
washed on the camera. Florida man walk in there, take
his photo off the wall, walk right out.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
They got him though. Hey, we'll bring you right back
to the station. You can hang out with Grady Judd
for a few hours while you're booked. All right, let
me go to Let me want to believe this dude
bone on a podcast called the Nerd sessh Podcast. This
dude has offended me deeply. Listen to the Eric Collins
slander from this boom. Listen to this.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
If everything is the craziest thing that you've ever seen
and you give it the biggest reaction of all time
and your voice cracks four or five times, that cheapens
the actual big moments. So when we are in the
first half of a seventeen nothing game between the Dolphins
and the Panthers and Miami scores a touchdown and you

(22:01):
d fur sicks. He found this man.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Mama, there goes that bad home, Lily me.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
The wagons are being circled in its magic time in Miami.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Baby, family's happy, everything's good.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's like, dude, Eric, chill the out.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
And I'm sorry because that was probably really loud for
all of you guys, but there's no way to do
an Eric Collins without screaming at the top of your
loans like you're having.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
A violent orgasm. It's ridiculous. Every drop backs out.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Dud well, Eric.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
It's too a tongue of I low you missed him.
I just felt like I was with an insane person.
I didn't feel safe.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Watching the game.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
I didn't know what was gonna happen, that it was
gonna be violent, and he was gonna be screaming at
me over like a nothing play four.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yard past, tell me tremble. How dare you and violent? Eric?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Eric Collins wins because you host something called the nerd
Snatch podcast.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Advantagyc Baby Hey, barstool sports awful, announcing both of them
headlines about how amazing EC is. All right, so I'm
not gonna listen to nerd sash. I know I love
this man. I will say this. I don't know Bone,
if it like, if it's a team that you're not
a fan of, I don't know if it bothers you more.

(23:18):
I know this the Hornets games without him Bone, I
would literally lay in the fetal position and cry yes.
If we didn't have Eric Collins hype it up, boom
so lecky, if we didn't have that Bone, I would
lose my sanity. I just think it's just passion and energy,
you know what I mean. I just think it's a
guy that's truly loving what's happening.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
And in that game, he was fair for both. He
did it for both teams. It wasn't like he was
biased to No, he did it for both. Did the
wattle touchdown?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
He went nuts on.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
So that's just that he only knows one way to broadcast. Yeah,
that's what he's doing. You should see him doing. You
ever hear him do the softball games before? Is it
durn softball?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yet? I appreciate passion and fire man, I appreciate that. Mac.
Holiday Express now this is not in America yet. This
is in holiday in Express hotels in Australia and New
Zealand and Singapore. They are now adding to rooms scented
alarm clocks that will waft the smell of breakfast into

(24:16):
your room. That's a good way to get somebody out, man.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
There's you can have the coffee sent, the bacon sent,
the blueberry muffin scent, and then of course in Thailand
it's it's peach and mango sent. It's a little different.
But Mac, if you're in an hotel and it wafted
bacon and oh, that's a great way to get you off.
That's honestly a dream come true.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm telling you. One of the number one things that
would finally get my lazy butt out of bed, like
on the weekends when I was growing up as a kid,
is if Mama Mac was making bacon. Yeah, and I
smell that bacon. Is like, oh, yeah, I know that smell.
I'm getting up and eating me some bacon. So yeah,
I would say, if the alarm clock on its own
the noise doesn't work, I think it's a great plan.
Now if I see the brilliance, I can't even want

(24:56):
to bleep them bone. I think that's brilliant. Now.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
The problem would be, does if you hit snooze, does
it keep wafting more and more bacon into the room
because I just keeping snooze over and over again.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
The only problem is what if you don't have bacon.
It's just that's probably annoying. Well, you go down stall.
I'm guessing it's because they want you to go downstairs
and sample there. And do you think they said to
have the bacon down there? They gotta have bake. You
can't do that and not have bacon. That'd be I legal,
that would be advertised. That'd be cruel and unusual punishment.
It really would.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Always thought if a lady was out there and she had,
you know, like a bacon perfume, I'd be all over that.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
You. That would get you going. I'll get your motor
running velte. Yeah. Oh man. By the way, we have
some feedback on the question of what counties or what
areas does most of the Florida Man stuff happen in
the most weird stuff Lee County getting multiple votes and
do all some votes. I lived in Jacksonville, Cycher. I

(25:49):
could probably understand that it's more Northern Florida Mac in
central Florida. Right, we don't do a whole lot of
Miami store. Right, it's more of the upper part of
the state, the Panhandle, in the in the central. Yes,
that is probably true. Although don't get me wrong. I
lived in South Florida as well. There's some dufuses down
there as well. I get it twisted. Speaking of dufuses
in South Florida, bone, I believe we might have broke

(26:11):
Mike McDaniel. Now, we didn't get the pink Slit Panthers,
Bryce the Carolina Reaper. They did not strike yesterday, Bone,
I kept refreshing waiting for somebody with the Dolphins to
be the sacrificial lamb and lose their job because they
lost to the Panthers, and it usually equates someone lose
their job. But it didn't happen. But I will say this, Bone,

(26:31):
I do believe we broke Mike McDaniel. Listen to his
press conference yesterday when asked about your conversations with owner
Stephen Ross after the blown lead to the Panthers. He
was really frustrated at the.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
You know, just like he's as as I was.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
And you know, we talked about the the challenge ahead
to get ready for the Chargers, and that was kind
of the.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Extent ofentot what the blieve happened to Mike McDaniel, you know,
unplug him and plug him back in down there in
Miami yond of Panthers completely broke that damn man.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
It was uh stumbling like Matt Rule used to back
in the day, like Arnold there didn't they that was brutal, man.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yes, you sounded like Arnold. I know what he sounded like. Man.
He always sounds like he's like stoned to me. And
that doesn't help that doesn't help that that made him
sound even more stone.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, that was that was interesting there. Back my final story. Here,
strangers are bonding online in a community that now has
over three thousand people. These three thousand people, for some reason,
are all having the same dream about shopping malls, and
they're online community is called it's a mall world after

(27:55):
all for some reason, mag they don't know why three
thousand people are dreaming about shopping malls and they've now
formed a bond online together.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
What kind the bleep is going on here with that?
I want a crew that is I'm telling you right
now that ranks somewhere eat below even the or even
above the Dungeons and Dragons Club as a dorky group assembling.
It's nerd session. The crew it gets together with all
the mall people in rips.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Eric Collins, how about now, if you're dreaming about mall
food courts, I might be aid because that's where some
of the best Chinese food ever is in mall food courts.
You and I have died many times back at mall
food court.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Let me guess you like the bourbon chicken at the
places in the food courts.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Oh my god, it's so good. I'm a fan of that.
So do we have at the Mall of America? How
good that was? I'm not gonna lie to you. I
do like the Bourbon Chicken. It doesn't matter what the
damn mall food court is, or what mall it is
or what city. I also got sucker for that Baro's pizza. Also,
I like Sebarro's too. That's a good call.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Get a little cinnamon, actually, now that you bring the
American cookies. I really like food courts. And I just
haven't been at a mall in forever. Why would I?
The only time I go to the mall every year
is when I stop at the Barnes and Noble at
the Carolina Place mall because that's one of the lone
places that has to fill steel magazines. But all I
do is enter the Barnes and Noble and just leave, Like,

(29:11):
what do you Christmas shop at? Online? Does anybody actually
go and Christmas? I mean I shouldn't say that, ever,
of course tons of people do.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I took I had a date at a mall through
court in my early twenties.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
What yeah? Took it to go to the mall and
it's early twenty I mean, is it kind of old though?
Forgo to the mall for a date. We walked around
the mall. We had to pre stand for that. Why
wouldn't That's a teenager thing, isn't it. I'm going to
assume you did to take her back to your house.
I mean I was.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I mean I was like twenty. I mean I wasn't
that far removed from twenty you.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't feel like you should. Should you be at the.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Mall on a say? Word O what to believe? I
didn't say it was a good idea. I just said
what I did. I moved across the street from the mall.
That's where I met her, and we went to the movies.
You went the mall?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
You're still did your parents drop you off? We went
to day I.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Would across the street from the malls where we met.
We were twenty, won the David Buster and had a
great time. Shut up about my past.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's a little questionable, like Fiddy wouldn't go to the
mall the woman now kidding me?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Not as a date? How many times have you and
fighter better the mall together? Fin? Did I go to
the mall together? Probably once or twice a year. You
still hang out the mall with Flounder, usually.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Whenever we're going to try to find Christmas gifts for
our parents.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay, all right, okay, okay, okay, that it mackiew you go.
We're going. We're good, We're good. I just had to
react to that one. Bo You got me with that one. See,
this is why I put yourself in your twenties, had
them all on a date.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
One Did you tell us share stories about your dating
and open up? Well, well I do, and you try
to rip me for it. Right, that's fair. You know
what next next time I have a date, take it
to the mall. Right, we're gonna get that Burber Chicken.
We're gonna get that great American cookie company. We're gonna
do We're gonna do it like I did in my
early twenties, mall style. When we come back, would you
n see actually fire Chapel Bill, should they consider it already?

(30:58):
Sports Radio ninety two seven and Ludacros performed for the
students around ten o'clock this morning. That's a perfect word

(31:19):
to describe whatever the heck is going on in Chapel Hill.
It is ludicrous that that's the product. Bill Belichick is
not the right guy for this job. We've seen a
bunch of NFL coaches come down and think that they're
going to create the thirty third NFL team. Do we
all remember that this product on both sides of the
football's reflection of what's going on in that office, and
it's just not good. They got to figure something out,

(31:40):
but Belichick was a mistake. It's not the answer and
they need to move on.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
That is Aaron Taylor CBS on Saturday, going after Bill Belichick,
declaring him not the right guy for the job. Man.
People are talking about whether it is reporters with behind
the scenes intel on Bill Belichi or whether it's every
analyst or college football writer. Man, everybody has had something

(32:07):
to say since the Clemson game. As North Carolina now
Bone has been outscored by an average of forty to
eleven in their three games against power for opponents, I
cannot believe how bad it is. But where you really
start to get worried Bone is where you hear the
stuff behind the scenes. That report from Pat Welter of

(32:31):
WRL and Raleigh about the dysfunction, the lack of communication,
the divide between the Matt Brown holdover guys and the
guys who were brought in under Belichick, the lack of communication.
Allegedly parents are saying about Bill Belichick not being willing
to talk to anybody from the families of these players.
It's just when you start Andrew Jones, who has covered

(32:54):
the tar Heels for years, Bone going on Facebook and saying,
no matter how bad you hear that it is, trust me,
I'm hearing about what's going on behind the scenes. It
is infinitely worse behind the scenes. And then he basically
responded to somebody on Facebook by saying, I don't know
how Carolina can continue to let this go on much longer.
I mean, it's just a very connected guy as well

(33:16):
to say that time it's crazy, Like do you think
and I honestly want to know what Tar Heel fans
think about this, like if you think it sounds like
a stupid idea and you can't like it's knee jerk,
let me know. Normally I would never say fire a
guy in year one Bone, but like Fitty brought up
the Frank Fitty said, it's starting to sound to him

(33:37):
like the Frank right thing, or it's not just losing,
it's dysfunction behind the scenes. Do you think Carolina should
consider firing him, Like I'm not even saying during the season,
like after the season.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Or is that knee jerk? Yeah, because somehow he's set
in the program back further. Like you know, Mac Brown
had it at a certain level, maybe not be to
the level they thought it should be at some years,
but he had it at least at a certain level.
Belichick has brought it backwards. And he's also not appearing
to be a very good coach right now. He doesn't
have the right staff. I know the recruiting class looks okay,

(34:14):
but after we see all this stuff Mac, we know
how quickly a recruiting class can also fall apart these days.
Are these recruits all going to go to UNC Are
they going to see this and go this seems a
little too crazy for me. I'm going to go over
here and also think about how many schools are going
to try to sway those recruits to their school. Would say,
you have no idea how bad it might be. There's

(34:36):
so much am the night. I'm going to guess it's
part on Belichick. It's probably part on the Jordan Hudson
thing that surrounds all this. I'm going to go ahead
and say, you've got a guy in charge of all this,
and Mike Lombardi who wasn't really good in the NFL.
What kind of pain may he be behind the scenes
and all this. It feels like it may get to
a point where is this all worth it for the

(34:56):
future of this football program. Everything is the the immediate
gain they thought they were gonna get that they're not
getting worth what the long term is for this problem.
I think you got to really consider making a change
at the end of the season. I mean, I think
there's a legit chance bone they don't win another football game.
I mean Stanford would be the one I look at

(35:17):
and say maybe. But they are rated behind Stanford in
the S and P rankings this week. The only school
behind them made a powerful conference in the S and
P rankings this week Bill Connolly's rankings is Oklahoma State.
Like that's how bad they are performing. Man, it just
is brutal.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
And then you start hearing things about internal chemistry issues,
the vides in the locker room. That can't be good
to try to turn it around when you've got division
like that and you've got issues like that behind the
scenes and everything you brought up bone ever you said,
it's not just Bill, you got Jordan, You've got Michael Lombardi.
But why are those people involved because of Bill? It
all comes back to Bill. It all comes back to him.

(35:57):
And the thing about this is I don't understand and
who this Bill Belichick is. This dude said do your job,
no distractions, and this dude has created more distractions than
I've ever seen a coach create. Like it's just unbelievable.
Jordan Hudson is being you know, the sids, the pr
people are being told Jordan Hudson's going to be emailed

(36:18):
on matters involving him. Jordan Hudson is out there bones
shutting down sixty minute book interviews. Why is he even
doing the book? You are starting your first job in
college football. It's a pretty big undertaking. It's completely new
world for you. Why are you releasing the book at
that time and doing a book tour at that time?
It's just distraction after distraction.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
And then the man whose motto is do your job
is not actually check my notes here.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Doing his job. He is doing everything he told his
players never to do. Like it's just it's who is
this guy? What is this version of Bill Belichick? It's
just crazy to me. And then you look at the results,
and then you start hearing stuff about the recruits, and
you talk about recruits leave. And Andrew Jones already pointed
out to one guy that left on Monday, and yeah,
the more they hear about this, you wonder if they leave.

(37:06):
And Andrew Jones also poked holes in their seventeenth ranked
recruiting class by saying, it's just a volume ranking. It's
not like he's getting huge difference makers for next year.
It's just they have thirty six, thirty seven guys signed,
and a guy like and a guy like Bryce Baker.
Is he gonna look around and go who thinks he
sees the who thinks he stays? Anybody highly doubt it.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
I mean not if if it's worse than we can imagine,
like Andrew Jones is saying, and they're gonna bring everybody back,
how many guys that they're viewing as parts of the
future are they gonna say, you know, I won't to
be part of this.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
It's just it's just crazy to me, man. And then
just look at the loss and again, I've got a
tar Heel fans saying, man, you guys are just haters,
hating on Belichick and hating on the Heels. This is
on behalf of tar Heel fans like this is I
watch what you guys are dealing with, and I'm like
furious for you, like it's a joke. And the fact

(38:00):
that Bubba Cunningham actually wanted to do a legitimate search,
including coaches like John Summer all who, by the way,
SEC schools seem to have on their radar big time
at Tulane, Like you could have pursued someone like that Bone,
but instead the board was enamor with this Belichick idea.
I mean from the way that went down Bone, it
was a train wreck and a soap opera the way
he got hired in the first place. And it's not

(38:22):
just us.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Brn Renner, Tarheel radio analyst former player, did twenty minutes
on the problems that he seeing yesterday. And then we
have guys like Fitty and Flounder. So you can talk
about me not like in U and see all you
want to, But Fitty, I don't think what we're saying
here would be wrong even from a Carolina Faners back are.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
You like mad at us right now, Like why would
they be mad at us? Fitty shouldn't you'll be mad
at Belichick?

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Yeah, Look, mag you and I we've gone our rounds
about the way that, the way you've talked about Belichick.
We've had our Donnie Brooks about it. But I can't, like,
I can't sit and argue with you about it anymore.
And I hate to say that because I hate saying
when you're right. There's nothing I hate more in the
world than the minting when you're right. But you called
this from the beginning, like from the very I can
go pull the promos that maybe when he got hired

(39:06):
and run them now and they apply to where we are,
because you questioned, how is this going to work?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
How's he going to adapt? It was a train wreck.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
It was a circus getting a beer, and it's been
everything in that and so much worse in the nine
months that followed, because like now he has made like
he's made this university it's a laughing stock man. Like
this was supposed to be our arrival to big time
college football. This was supposed to be North Carolina planning
its flag and saying we want to win in football

(39:34):
we don't want to be just a basketball school, and
I believe in that message, like I actually believe we
can win in football, and he has made it ten
times worse.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
This thing is ever going to happen. I think it's
made us appreciate that with Mac Brown there were issues. Yeah,
but like it's kind of like this is issues upon
issues upon issues, like their issues have issues bum in
Chapel Hill, right now, that's how bad this is. This
good embarrassing man. They have more issue. He's a good housekeeper.
I like that. Bony.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Also, the more you hear and see about the pettiness
that Belichick has towards New England.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
That's another respect to this. Does he given him about
the kids or just himself?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Is he did he take a job mag just so
he could middle finger New England and say, ah, look
at me, I'm good over here, or because it feels
like he's more enamored with trolling, the not trolling but
getting back at Robert Kraft than he is on building
the program at North Carolina, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
He's stuck on that, the pettiness. He just can't help himself.
And again, you're doing that to the detriment of your
kids in your program, the stuff you do with New England,
not putting up the videos until you're called out on it,
not allowing New England scouts in like, and the fact
that they said we're gonna be the thirty third team.
It's just a laughing stock. You try to talk that
kind of big game and then you come out here
with this week sauce embarrassment. You are the thirty third team,

(40:51):
you'll play the Jets. I mean, it's just ridiculous, it
really is. And again I usually will not say fire
somebody a year in there has to be real dysfunction,
and it seems like that's what's going on right now. Man,
it's crazy to me. And I think he's tarnishing his legacy.
I'm not saying but because because first of all, you

(41:14):
have people already saying, Bro, you ain't any good without
Brady in the NFL, and now you really ain't good
without Brady. But like, I just think this thing is
so bad Bone that I just again, it's not the story.
The story is his six rings as a head coach,
two rings as a coordinator, But below that will be God,
do you remember how clueless he was as a college coach.

(41:36):
You know, yeah, someone says, give it a rest. He
has no talent yet.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
The problem is, if it's this bad behind the scenes,
will he ever match the talent that we think he
should because they're going to run away from this or
they're simply not going to want.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
To rock the players in He had all this NIO money,
seventy five new guys, He had all this NIO money,
and what did a group of five coach tell the
athletic I couldn't believe all the battles we had recruiting
with Carolina, he said. I knew right there when Carolina
was getting guys we were going through for at the
group of five level, they were gonna suck, like, like
is this? And I question his talent evaluation big time

(42:11):
at the NFL level Michael Lombardi, I don't think with
some great talent evaluator. So why do y'all think they're
gonna be great talent evaluators. Yeah, it's just I don't know, man.
I hope I'm wrong. You know it won't be any
It's you know, won't be anything to me. I've been
wrong five gazillion, millions trillion times. I hope I'm wrong
I'd love to see un see football be be that.

(42:32):
But I just think you might want to cut bait.
But I just don't know bone is the board there
willing to cut bait because they're gonna look ridiculous all
those board members that like push this thing through. Yeah,
you know what I mean. When Bubba was trying to
do a normal search. There's so much behind the scenes
stuff going on too. What's the future maybe ab Bubba's
Bubba's only got like what one more year to go? Right?
Is that what it is? City? When is months?

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah? He steps down next July first and things last.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Bubba probably is like, thank God, let me go put
I tose in the sand. When we when we like
what Bill does most bye weeks when we come back,
Steven Dazio Mack of the ACC Network talks all things ACC.
Where is it gone most wrong for Belichick from the
coaching perspective? Well as that Sports Radio ninety seven Defenzie
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