December 10, 2025 • 46 mins
In the second hour, Mac & Bone start to preview Sunday's game against the Saints, as they revisit the first matchup, and discuss what worries them going into this game, they debate what Notre Dame is trying to accomplish by attacking the ACC, & they discuss how likely it is that the Panthers invest in Rico Dowdle this offseason
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, just understanding that consistency, you know, consistency winning championships,
and uh, that's where we're fighting for our first you know,
going to get the championship of our division.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
So I'm just understanding that, you know, it's not a
bounce back, no more, is going in every week focusing
and knowing that we have to go achieve everything that
we're set up for.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
That is Turk Wharton knows a little something about winning
championships being with the Chiefs bone and I personally believe
the reason why the Chiefs stink this year is they
lost Turk Wharton. I don't know why the national media
is not focusing on that. Panthers have Turk Wharton in
first They're in first place. Chiefs have Turk Wharton. They've
been eliminated from the division already. So, uh, the coincidence
(01:03):
I think not. I heard Turk introduced Travis and Taylor together. Yeah,
he was the glue of everything that went on there.
Oh man, you go get to Homes. He taught Mahomes
had a no look passed. He bought Andy Reid's Hawaiian shirts.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
He did it all.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I already introduced Andy Reid to the cheeseburg No, No.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
One's gonna believe that that was childhood. Yeah, you're right,
I would say sometime before he was the giant kid
in the pump punt passing kick competition, he was introduced
to cheese Burgers and became friends with him, became BFFs
with him. Last to be better than the Chiefs. We
waugh because we're better. The John Daily meme and Tiger
meme doesn't even work for the Chiefs and the Panthers anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
No, not the same record. Come on, Cheese, pick up
your game, baby. All right, let's talk about it. Turk
Wrton's right bone. The consistency is the next step and
the thing I keep asking because Bebop says, by next Monday,
Mac will be all over this Panther playoff wagon driving it.
And I'm just and one of the reasons I am
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staying measured and not joining you guys and saying we're
making the playoffs, we're winning the division is it's that
element of consistency that I just are we the twenty
twenty five Panthers ready to become a consistent team to
play close to their best bone every time out? Or
is that going to wait till next year. I've already
told you the twenty twenty six Panther playoff wagon. I'm there,
(02:26):
I'm already I'm sitting in it right now. You cannot
keep me off that thing because at the very least
bone we are building towards that in my opinion. But
this year, are we a car of tomorrow? We can't
wait to see what it looks like.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Back in the day. This year, are we ready to
do it? Man?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The Bucks look shaky and vulnerable. But the first thing
they have to do in this game, I feel like
it is going to say a lot about the Panthers bone.
They come back off the bye week. They had their
best win of the season, at least one of the
two best, right along with the Green Bay game. We
all know they followed up the Green Bay game with
a complete and total dud. Could really prove a lot
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bone if they show up at New Orleans against a
team that now beat them and beat the Bucks and
who is playing way better two and two in their
last four games. Tyler Schuck is looking like a heck
of a young quarterback.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Right, They won't have to go quarterback in the draft
most likely, Right, It's yeah, that's what it's looking like.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This wouldn't mean a lot bone if they can show
up in just professional game. I'm not saying you have
to blow them out, but just a professional win where
they show up and they play well and it's not
some can't handle prosperity, can't follow up a big win
type effort that we've seen too much this year. So
all that to say to ask the question some of
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you are already texting in how worried are you as
a Panther fan about this Saints game?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Are you afraid that it could be the bad Panthers
that show up? How are you? Are you worried that
the Saints bone are just better? Right now? Like?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
How worried are you about this game? Boning?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I think normal Timothy said it well on the fandual
Tech Saw and he's not nervous about the Saints, He's
nervous about what Panther team shows up. Yeah, I think
that is a proper way to put it. Because the
Panthers play their best, they should beat the worro regardless
of how the Saints are played against the Panthers and
the Bucks. But if the Panthers have one of those
days where they're not into it, they're not playing well
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like they did here, it could be a problem. So
as long as the Panthers show up, and I would
assume after the bye week, this Saints team has their
full attention right now, knowing that they can't reach their
goals if they trip up to the Saints. I mean
they could, but it would take a lot along the way.
You would hope that this is a full focus, not
overlooking the Saints' moment here for the Panthers, So I'm
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going to trust that their focus is completely where it
should be because they've had a lot of time to
focus on this guy.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And plus, let's face it, they kicked your rear end.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Like I would hope just pride says, hold on, now,
we're better than them, and we looked way worse than
them when we played them in our house. Would hope
just pride of being a competitor is going to play
a role. I looked up bone the stats again last
night from that game, and I think I'm gonna bring
myself to rewatching it, although I don't you know what
(05:13):
I mean, I might cry like Pete Bavakua while I
watched that game back but I'm reading some of the
stats bone and comparing it to the Saints entire season.
The Saints had three hundred and eighty eight yards against
the Panthers in that game. That's the most yards they
had in the game all season. The Saints Bone had
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two hundred and sixty six passyards. That's the most passing
yards they had in a game this season. The Saints
had one hundred and twenty two rush yards. That's the
third most rush yards they had in a game this season.
Then let's flip it to the other side of the ball,
because our offense was complete garbage too. The Saints gave
up to US one hundred and seventy five yards. That's
the lowest total they gave up all season. The Panthers
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had the fewest rushing yards in a single game this
season against the Panthers seven. Again, it's the Saints seventy three,
and the Panthers had one hundred and two passing yards,
a pitdly amount. That is also the lowest amount that
the Saints have given up all season. We made the
Saints Bone look fifty times better than they have looked
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all season long.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
In that game. It was pathetic. It really was I
have a number for you also from that game. That's
two two times in that game, jac Horn fell down. Yes,
and that's the problem, and that completely altered the result
of that game.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
J C.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Hornmack, you would at least assume he's healthy and if
he's good to go, that he would not just randomly
fall down twice to lead to those big places.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
It was so weird.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It was so weird that that happen twice on long
touchdowns in the same damn game. So, yeah, you conventional
wisdom would say he's going to be able to stay
on two feet. Now, we still got to see if
he can get out of the protocol. But your point stands.
I guess I'm saying all this to say the Saints
are two and two in their last four games. They're
giving up eighteen points a game in their last four games.
Their defenses is vastly improved. Hell Cam Jordan, you know
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how I like to write off the Saints old guys,
and then they make me look like a full ye.
Cam Jordan has four sacks in the last four games.
They bone have two wins in the last four games
and a four point loss to a hot Miami team.
They were right there with Miami had to lead in
the fourth quarter of that game. I don't know how
you can't be concerned about the Saints this week, whether
it's the formal Timothy angle, which is the way that
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we have the ability to show up in lay ind Egg,
or the whether it's also that the hey, the Saints are.
The Saints are fighting, they're plucky, they're feisty right now,
you know what I mean. They're not quitting like it
looks like the Falcons have done. It's November one. Record wise,
the Saints are better than the Bucks. I didn't think
we'd have a moment this season where we said that,
But right now the Saints are are playing better football.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
We'll see what happens the rest of the way. Hopefully
Atlanta doesn't like all of a sudden nignight the Bucks
on Thursday to be who they are. But the Saints
are playing better football for the last four or five weeks.
That Tamba Bay is right now, Yeah, it's crazy, but
it's true. Well, we had a Texter who said it yesterday,
who said it, and then they said, I'm not being facetious.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Was it Goldie or was it somebody else? Somebody said
to us yesterday, Oh, Joe person. Joe Person said, he
is almost from a Panther standpoint, more concerned about the
Saints game than hosting than the Bucks game coming up
at home. And I kind of chuckled, and he's like,
I'm not being facetious about it. You could see you can
see your point. Yeah, but which it's the Bucks will
have their full attention. They will, they will. You could
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see the Green Bay or Rams Panthers showing up for
the Bucks Green Bay and Rams Panthers is gonna show
up for this one? Or is this going to be
the Saints Panthers. This is going to be you know,
another form of insert your bad outcome here, Panthers.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
This is this is the roller coaster ride they've been on.
Like every time we're at we think we're, we're up,
We're it's always different than we anticipate. So that this
would fall into that theme of the seasons. So I
think worries are legit here.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I think so. Tim said, as a very twenty
twenty five there's different Tim. He's not formal Bone, He's
formal Tim Tam just wearing a T shirt today, just
regular old Tim. He says, it would be a very
twenty twenty five Panthers thing to do to beat the
Rams and put up six points against the Saints. We did,
We put up seven last time. We lost seventeen to
seven last time. This dude says, if we break our
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losing streak when favored this weekend, I'll be fully brought
bought in on this team. Although did were we favored
against the Jets? Yes, so we did win a game
as favor favorites. We ended up favored it they were
like one and a half I think, so we did
actually do That was the first time since like twenty
twenty two that we had won a game as a favorite.
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Antoine the Mailman says, what about those idiot kids on
that Saints podcast It said we'd be the worst team
in the division.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Those guys, we did.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We did bring up the possibility of reaching out to
him this week, but I don't want to mess with that.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Is that bad Juju bone? Can we at least he
was like, big Juji? Is it accessible to the audio?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Those kids? You have the audio? Those kids want to
see what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Now you don't have to do with this second, but
we need to try to find those kids again on
the audio, like what they're saying now about or what
they said at the beginning where we played it the
first time. Okay, okay, yeah, because now I'm not sure
they're still going back. They've probably got you know, school
war going on now.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
After the last four weeks though, bone they probably think
next year is a super Bowl. See I was talking
about the twenty twenty six Panther play all the way.
They're probably starting the super Bowl Saints wagon seven four five,
seven oh nine six ten. Richie says, shouldn't the Saints
be protecting protecting draft status? They're going for culture wins,
baby Panther fans, you know what I'm talking about, the
good old fashioned culture wins.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, that goes in the words againting, that goes into
what we're saying about Tyler Shuck though. If they feel
like they might feel it's more important for him to
play well and get some wins and they won't have
to go quarterback as high in the draft, so Saints
are maybe they're content with him, And then where were
they land they land? I guess I don't know this
just in Atlanta, Atlanta. Just a reminder, Atlanta does not
have a first round pick this year. The rams of
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that big that's right, it's hilarious. That is hilarious. The
this just inbone.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I believe most NFL teams reguards that a record are
not trying to lose games. I know the players aren't
trying to lose games, not at all all right, with
the lack of job security in the NFL, or contracts
aren't guaranteed. I mean, you're playing for your job there
or somewhere else constantly. Athletes don't. Athletes don't try to
lose games. By the way, we have an update on
Terry Rogier at some point. Unless they have like five
(11:31):
mob families on the phone, they're not trying to lose games.
How about this? How about this from the seven oh
four number guys. I don't like what I'm hearing today.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
The fact you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Guys don't believe in the Panthers that they can at
least split against the garbage Saints is sad. And the
fact that you're reading off a bunch of text from
Panther fans that are scared shows me there's a lot
of y'all out there that aren't real Panther fans.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is.
He buying that bony.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, anytime you worry about the other team, you're not
real fan fitty right, I mean you just couldn't possibly
be worried at all that that fandom is being blind
in one thousand percent dishonest with yourself. That's what being
a fan. This one, My god, some grass? Would he
like us Boney touched some grass? What does that mean?
(12:20):
Does that mean get on the field yourself? Yeah, just
mean step outside, re evaluate yourself, touch some grass and
kiss his ass. I just I have a have a
great way of making a point here. Bone is this
guy asking for our approach to the first Staints game.
You talk about digging up some old audio, Bone, we
can also dig up some old audio of guarantees of
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a blowout brigade.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Something that Bone invented.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That is a worse invention than the glowing puck on
hockey broadcast by Fox. It was three scores galore. Would
this guy like us to completely act like we're playing
a Division IIE football because we did that the first
time and it failed miserably.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, like we're playing cedar Pine State or something like that.
So this guy, this guy.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Wants this bag.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Well, Mac, I've got I give you something we've never
done before. We're gonna do something called three scars go
are That means the Panthers went by mar that three
scars and we come back in and we do a
victory dads, because the Saints are going march it out.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That was, that was what that guy wants. That was
a bad one. Boning, that was. That was a bad one.
You can't win with these people. So anyway, freaks and geeks,
you can't win. I think most people like you said
that are being my gosh, turn that phone down. Most
people a lot of activity at the McLean household this morning.
Bone were coming to They're going, they're all moving on
at work. They just put they just put the deer
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Mac letter on the on the counter. JP from Huntersville says,
what part of this year has led us? Hasn't led
us to believe us Panther fans that we can't or
has led us to believe that we can string two
solid wins together. We win one, we lose one. Anthony
wants to know if that was meal mix texting in
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pure poor mew mix man. They got blamed. They showed
up at the damn Charlotte FC playoff game and they
lost and they got blamed for it.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Poor mew Mix.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
What are you going to reach out back when it
comes to blame and just send your condolences because normally
you're the one that's playing.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I feel bad, just like I'm getting blamed for Clemson
blownets on two point hoop leed for my halftime.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I feel you with the internet. Do mac if you
hit on the mixed podcast?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh yeah, let's do it, meow Mix, bring that podcast back,
and I'm going on with you.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
We're gonna put all these curses together because maybe our
curses will cancel each other out.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
This is like the conjuring oh man.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Oh so, anyway, I'm kind of with JP on that.
Huntersville Rob says, what does let's see here? Why does
gen z lingo tickle the boomers so much? I don't
want you tickle on my boomers?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Hunter?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
What lingo is he talking about? I don't know. I
don't know who used gen z lingo? Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I don't remember. I don't even word. You gotta let
us know what't word. But anyway, I'm tickled. I don't
know what what generation is it currently? I'm tickled by
the way the kids talk currently. I I don't know
mac here Max. He cracks me up with some of
his words. Man, peak is the one he's into right now. Ah,
this weekend gonna be peak. Man, this game gonna be peak. Oh,
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I think we've peaked long ago. Apparently we're a generation
Alpha now, got it? Yeah, that's what it is. Touch grass?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Okay, So, Bob, you used that gen z He says
it's a gen Z phrase.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I didn't think so. I see it all the time
on the internet. I don't even I didn't even know
what it meant. I didn't know if it meant you
wanted them to play in a game. You go get
some perspectives, do something I got.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Now if you say touch some grass back to uh
like the Willie Nelson's of the world, they'll they'll they'll
figure someone else out, Willy Nelson, like I've been touching grass.
Hun when we comes out by Jerry Jones, Why don't
do by Jerry Jones or Willie Nelson. I didn't know
that Miss Willy Nelson was a fan of the Noalla's
Kyle Boss. When we come back, notre Dame's assault on
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the ACC continues, but this time another conference commission come
to the defense of the ACC. What what is Notre
Dame trying to accomplish with all the wine. It's Sports
Radio ninety two seven w FNZ.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z, Mac and Bone
with you. We're nervous. We're nervous about the Saints game.
Fired up though, fired up for that game. Hell, I'm
even fired up to see if the Falcons got anything
for the Bucks tomorrow night. I'm not holding my breath,
but we will see plenty of Panther talk on the
show today. It's about go time, Bone, It's about go time.
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The boys will be doing install today for the Saints
game plan and getting that going.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It's it's it's it's go time.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's go time to get ourselves hyped up for the
And I just checked it again, bum brought you by
PSL source for the standing check for the first place.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Panthers.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
All right, much your chagrin, much to the chagrin of
a few angry Notre Dame homers, you're venting to us
on the text line right now, including Shake and Bake,
who says, let me know when you're done bashing Notre Dame,
and I'll tune that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Nobody else is talking about that anywhere else anywhere in
the world.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Shaking bake.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I was done yesterday and then your cry baby a
d PDB decided to hold a whole press conference whinding
some more about the a C.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
What are your people done talking about it?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I mean who, but who honestly believes the acc social
media post bone is the reason that they're out of
the playoff. Yeah, like, come on, you're blaming the wrong
damn entity.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Seriously, you got to give the committee more credit than that,
don't we They're not sitting there just like, oh, look
at this. Oh that's a great point by the AEC
feed I'll taking Miami. I would think that they're not
paying attention to that or doesn't but this is the committee.
But I would hope that that doesn't dictate what they're
a paider.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
The committee listen to lobbying from conferences. There'll be seven
SEC teams in because Darth sank he told them to
put seven SEC teams in. It's just it's bs. It's
like Charlie Brown's teacher.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Ma wah wah wah wah wah, wah, like who even
pays any attention? Is stupid? Conference lobbying.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Do we think that the basketball committees pay attention to
Joe Nardi's every update?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
No, God, I hope not. I would hope not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I mean the ACC wins every year and lobbies every
year for teams. They don't get teams in the NCAA
tournament like they want. So why why is conference lobbying
the reason? Why Notre Dame's out. No, it's just that
we have a business relationship and you broke our relationship. Listen,
all you have in football is a scheduling agreement. But
I don't want to rehash this whole thing. I want
to let you hear the latest from Pete Puvaqua the
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day may d at the presser yesterday, and I want
to ask the honest question, like, do you think Bone
and everybody listening when you listen to what he said
yesterday about the ACC and the social media post, do
y'all think that this is just sour grapes? Do you
think they're honestly that upset and betrayed by the ACC
that they can't help it, that they just want the
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world to know, or do you think there's an agenda here.
Do you think they are trying? Is there an endgame?
Bone that this is part of why are they doing
the two stray days of calling out the ACC when
really I think you should be mad about Bama getting in,
and I think you should be more mad at the
committee like you were on Sunday, And at some point
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I think you should be like Clark Lee, the Vanderbilt
coach who said, and look inwardly, Clark Lee bone flat
out said, we're the reason we're not in the playoff.
We lost two games. Yeah, if we don't do that,
we're in the playoff. And that's a novel way to
look at it. Pete Sampson is kind of a Notre
Dame homer.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
He covers them for the Athletic right more Tennis alegend correct,
so that'd be Pete Stamfords, so God to Harry arm
Yet he covers them, so he's Notre Dame friendly. He
wrote a whole article about you know who's to blame
for Notre Dame missing out of the playoff, and he
got to a portion in the article where it was like,
how about the Notre Dame themselves? And he knows them
way better than I do bone and brought up so
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many points about them. He brought up points about when
some of their losses seem to happen early in the
season under Marcus Freeman. Marshall Northern Illinois two losses this year,
and he said Marcus Freeman and the staff, for all
they do well, need to figure out how to know
their personnel coming out of summer camp. He says, they're
not their best when they come out because they don't
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know exactly there.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
How do you u CJ. Carr?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
They had CJ. Carr playing like Riley Leonard early. Now
he's more of a passer things like that. So how
about this one too. Pete Sampson brought this up. How
about not scheduling as your first two games Miami and
Texas A and m.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Space them out.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, how about not opening with those two when you
have not been at your best? And I don't know
when they scheduled those games, but how about not starting
with two tough ones like that too? So again, I
know at Notre Dame they want to send the message
to their student athletes that when something goes wrong in life,
you cast blame on others. That's a great message to
teach the student athletes what leadership that is. But maybe
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just maybe you could look inward. Here it is, this
is Bavakua yesterday, the ad of Notre Dame, and then
Bone I want to talk about do you think he
is trying? Are they trying to do something strategically with this?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
But what we were really.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Surprised by and disappointed was how the ACC conference really
when on a social media campaign, in my opinion, attacking
our football program. Miami had done that, and they didn't
I get it. You know, all's fair. You know, there's
a great rivalry, decades long rivalry between Notre Dame and Miami,
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and that's the spirit of the universities and the football
programs and fandom and that's what makes college football special,
whether it's Notre Dame, Miami, Notre Dame, USC, Michigan, Ohio State.
But we felt this was different and it raised a
lot of eyebrows, and you know, we made our feelings
known that we didn't particularly understand this, and it just
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kind of puzzled us that a conference that's home to
over six hundred of our student athletes walking around this
campus today. I guess chose to go down that road.
I guess intellectually I understand it, but I certainly don't
agree with it. And why would you attack an unbelievably
important business partner of yours in football, member of your
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conference in twenty four other sports. I'm one person. I
don't see the logic in that. I know other leaders
at the university didn't see the logic in that. And
the ACC is important to us, and you know we're
important to the ACC. And think about football for a minute.
You know those ACC teams want to play us in football.
You know interesting stat since twenty fourteen when we started
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our football relationship with the ACC, if you look at stadiums,
they sell out. ACC game sellout roughly twenty three percent
of the time. When Notre Dame goes to an ACC site,
it's ninety percent of the time. When you think about
ratings for ACC football games when they play Notre Dame,
there's a tremendous lift. I don't understand why you would
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go on a social media campaign to attack an important partner.
Uh now, well, who's some of our important partners in
the football space NBC. We wouldn't do that to NBC. Now,
I understand they have to stand up for their teams
in football. We just think there's other ways to do it,
and it has created damage. I mean, I'm not going
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to shy away from that, and that's just not me speaking.
People a lot more important at this university than me
feel the same way. So I think it has done
some real damage, and I think the a SEC knows that.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Do you think Bone, I'm sorry they even lost golden bone.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
On that one over it.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That was that lasted longer than some.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Ball games, that last relationship than that.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
By the way, In the same press or yesterday, he
then said, I don't want to be dramatic. Oh obviously,
what do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Bone?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Do you like this texture? Says Mac. There's no agenda,
notre dame or just whiny babies. This dude said, Bone
nailed it yesterday. There's no agenda. They're just used to
getting their way. What do you think, Bone? Is there
an agenda here? Is there something they're working their way towards?
Or are they just like so mad?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Why why go back a second day and hold a
whole presser for this?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I have a theory, fiddy, I could use my x
files theme, or I have a conspiracy theory mac on
why the leadership is so worked up at this right
now because Marcus Freeman has put them on a different
level right the last handful of years. They're not just
mac you know, able to get to the postseas like
they're legitimate under Marcus. Last year they were yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I'm saying here they weren't even in the postseason. No,
But I'm saying like they view it as they are
that good, not to just get They view it as
we are not just happy to be here anymore. Like
Notre Dame is at a point under Marcus free where
they think they can win it.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
The whole thing.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I wonder if they're worried about how small the window
might be under Marcus Freeman because of NFL rulers. So
I wonder if Bavakua the administration knows that they may
not have as many years with Marcus Freeman as his
age would indicate, because the NFL is calling. And I
wonder if that's why they're heightened right now over this.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So you think it's just like added stress, Yes, but
you're not saying that they're gonna that they may half,
they may lose Marcus Freeman, and they could also go
right back to where they were previously, Like do they
think all this whining is gonna make the committee give
them more of a.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Hell, they already have the sweetheart rules starting next year
that then it's right team playoff. If they're in the
top twelve, they're guaranteed a spot, which AC asked us
a great question yesterday that how did they have the
leverage to get that? Like all the conferences Bone signed
off on that. If it's a fourteen team team playoff,
they're in the top thirteen, they're guaranteed a spot. So
like under that rule, Bone they would have bumped Miami,
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like it would have been Ranke higher. They would have
like why did everybody agree to that? What's no name
gonna do? Go play in their own playoffs, intersquad scrimmage,
the best Notre Dame team?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Who is it?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Like, I just so, I don't it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I just wonder if they have angst about maybe Marcus
Freeman's future and that's why they're acting they have diaper
rash all week. I My my feeling is that they
are starting to lay the groundwork for moving away from
the ACC. Is this going to be part of the
justification when they try to work their way out of
the ACC scheduling agreement.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Because impossible.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think they have to look at the ACC right
now and say playing BC and Syracuse and Stanford all
those Stanford's arrival of THEIRS that they will play outside
of this ACC agreement too. But I think they're looking
at a few of those ACC teams they played and
said they get killed our strength to schedule. So I
don't think, and you know, bone they've already been asking,
it's already been reported. They've been asking the ACC can
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they play the upper echelon brands more and not just
have a rotation through all the AEC teams where we
play five a year, but we rotate through it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's why they have Miami six times and eleven years
coming up here. They went outside it and scheduled Miami.
They have Clemson of like eleven straight years. That's right,
they went so they went outside the ACC deal in that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But it's like, I think, Fitty, do you think there's
any case of this that this they're trying to and
I don't know if it's like they want to get
out of a contract, so they're trying to like plant
the seeds, like a contray was violated or something. But
I feel like this has to be like starting some
justification for getting out of this schedule.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Some people, this Texter said it's justification to get out
of the ACC and all their other sports. I feel
like they're probably happy in all the other sports in
the ACC, Like ACC is good in a lot of
those Olympic sports.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You know, I don't know, what do you think, Fitty,
Oh they're talking to I'm sorry, Yeah, who knows? Here's
the issue, mac?
Speaker 8 (28:26):
If they're trying to break the scheduling agreement with the ACC,
with the Big Ten and the SEC moving or the
Bigon already being a non conference game schedule, the SEC
moving to a nine game conference model, where else are
you going to get all these these games? You're gonna
get into a schedule aligance with the Big twelve?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You don't think that's what the biddle? What about the
Big Ten though? Like it makes regional sense. It does
for regional sense, but I mean they play they play
USC and Purdue every year, Like you could try, and
I know the USC thing's been up in the air.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I would love it because because you bring back to
the Notre Dame Michigan rivalry, one of the great If
you want.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Them to play the you don't want them play in
the ACC schools.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
Oh no, I mean because because this is the game.
As a Carolina guy, absolutely, because they kick Carolina's ass
every time they play them.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
So you want them out so you don't got to
play them anymore. I want to complain.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
I just worry for them if they're trying to break
away from the ACC, who only plays right now eight
conference games. It's easier for them to do that scheduling money,
it is, where are you going to get these games?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, they have not listened. They have nine conference games
in the SEC and the Big Ten. We brought that
up yesterday. But you don't think the Big Ten would
like to follow either of their schools to play Notre
Dame once a year.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I'm sure, But I mean, how willing would Ohio State, Noted,
Michigan Pence. They'd be willing to play non Big Ten
schools and then Notre Dame every single every.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Three or four every three for Indiana. It'd be perfect
for Indiana, Penn State because they get your schedules ripped.
Go play Notre Dame once each.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Just a thought, could they go to the big Dandy Staples?
It's in my thought alone, and Andy Staples wrote it.
But like it's it's a legit question. Could Notre Dame
take the scheduling agreement elsewhere? I don't think they're dying.
A lot of people think they want to leave the ACC.
I don't get the feeling Bone that they have any
issues with the ACC at all in all the other sports.
I get the feeling that their feelings are hurt right now.
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I also think that they that they want to act
like a bully, and it's a lot easier to bully
Jim Phillips and the ACC than go after Greg Sanky.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Oh you don't want you don't want that fight. You
don't want dark Sanky. Bro, No, you'll go missing and
somewhere in the Deep South.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Matter of fact, he said, he said yesterday Greg Sanky
is the only Confence commissioner he's talked to. So he's
talked to Greg Sankey said said he kissed his patuity
like everybody does. But I just wonder is this are
they Is this their their endgame? Because I can't imagine Bone.
It's just for two or three straight days. They've just
been uncontrollably whining. There has to be some tactical Like
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the press conference yesterday that had to be tactical, didn't it.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
This has been the most whiny Notre Dame's been in
a long, long since the last time they were whining.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
This is pretty extreme levels.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Though they're playing Chinese checkers, guys, they're trying to be
three steps ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I will point this out though, by we say that
we have a hero though bone the acc Jim Phillips
put out a statement that was too nice for my liking.
I would love to hear Jim Phillips give some public
comments about this and go back after Bavaqua, but he's
probably afraid of losing the Notre Dame scheduling agreement because,
like Bavaqua said, it does do ratings, it does fill
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the stadiums up and all that stuff. But Brett Yormark
is the hero and the protector that we didn't know
we needed here in ACC country. Brett or Mark is
the big twelve commissioner. If Jim Phillips won't do it
in anything other than a nice little patty cake statement, bone,
Brett Yormark did it yesterday at a press conference.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I will say this, and I'm a little lot spoken
about it. I don't like how Notre Dames reacted to it.
So okay, I think I think Pete's his behavior has
been egregious. It's been egregious going after Jim Phillips. When
they save Notre Dame during COVID we all knew and it.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Was very transparent.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Hunter was very transparent about it. The chair that as
Notre Dame in Miami got closer together head to head
would be a factor. Okay, b Y, you lost. They
became closer together head to head made a difference in
that decision. So I think he is totally out of
bounds in his approach. And he was in the room
I tell him the same thing.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Your Mark's not afraid to say what the others won't
is he can I say this again, Why can't he
be the accon? I'm sorry, Jim Phillips, I know you
work here in Charlotte. Livey'll you live here in Charlotte.
I'm sorry, but this dude is just badass. This dude
just takes on people. He says things, He's progressive and apart.
I got ideas he does.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
He's got the Big Twelve, who was on the edge
of this extinction all right for itself. I mean, it's
not going to be the other two, but they're they
see why they're having some fun over there in the
Big Twelve. They're a basketball conference right now. Absolutely, this
Texter here seven oh four number. I think it's apparent
to Notre Dame the ACC will cease to exist in
a handful of years and they need somewhere else to go.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
They're probably starting that process. Yeah, that's another thing the
national guys have been talking about bone that I kind
of you kind of slipped my mind. Twenty thirty is
the year where the money to buy their buy your
way out of the ACC starts to dramatically drop. Most
people that cover the sport nationally think that is the
death day. You can put that on the tombstone of
the ACC already, twenty thirty.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah, it's not that far away. In theory. It comes
up pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
The lawsuit settlement was not good for the ACC. It
was good for Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, anybody once
out in five years. Sadly, you know, when we come back,
could the Panthers cheek go backfield continue in the future
at Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I know they want to back.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
They're not in the business of letting good players walk
out the door.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
If they can help it.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I think they'll probably kind of let Rico set the market,
sort of see what's out there and and and just
decide then and there if if that's you know, if
that's gonna work under their cap and with you know,
other things they want to do. Now, you know they
love Juba. You guys know this. I mean the reason
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that they extended and when they did.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
They if they like what you know.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
He brings to the locker room and on the field
and all of that. But his contract is not that
unwieldy like they could potentially get out from under that.
I'm not saying they will, but there are and that will.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Probably be part of.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Their negotiation, you know, with with.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
With both sides, that's your person.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yesterday The Athletic check out his article about Jonathan Brooks
and where his rehab is and how Thomas Davis is
helping him along the way we rehab and keeping the
spirits up, which is very cool. It's a great article
and that's chose question, Uh, answer to your question, bone
about and I think he told you was a great question, Bony.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I think he supported your question. I have trouble keeping
track of how many times I get that. I believe
that's three times in the counter you get.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Told it's you asked a great question, as many times
as Sidney Sweeney gets told she's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You know what I mean, it's right there, it's Fiddy.
I've called the Sidney Sweeney Radio. Honestly, you both.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Got very similar qualities. Great eyes, thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
See I would have thought Fiddy was the Sydney Sweeney
Radio because he's the one with the big boot.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Oops. I don't know how you come back from that one.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Why to get so quiet, Anya, because nothing but like
complimentary and.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Union day we have argued. I'm sorry, not just I mean,
now you're going to give you the bad guy. I
couldn't help myself the other board.
Speaker 8 (36:18):
I'm in the second best shape. They're shoppy. There's me,
there's pouch, and then there's smoke.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You're just fun to take, you know what I mean?
You take it well, that's why you take it so well.
Fit that mag made you the boob.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
All right?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Anyway, let's focus on this running back situation bone because
Joe person you heard him there. His feeling is, yeah,
the Panthers are gonna want Rico Dabdle back, but can
they work something out financially?
Speaker 5 (36:45):
When I saw Bone, the.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Rico as we call it, the Chico backfield, bone worked
the way I think they wanted it to work all along,
and for whatever reason, it hasn't.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
You know, they've gotten.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Them both going like that, But I think against the Rams,
that's what they envision, and I feel like if they
do that for another four games.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Hell, maybe a playoff game in there as well, maybe playkay.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
So I wonder Bone if they would try to keep
the Chico backfield together. I know they got Brooks coming back,
they used the second round pick on him, But as
Joe writes in The Athletic Piece, would you trust Brooks
and Etn to be like your top two, like to
be your two primary backups?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Not in a two back league.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I would bring Brooks along slowly and maybe eventually he
maybe he's a piece for you, or maybe he's a
piece for somebody else. I don't know how that's gonna
play out, because I don't know enough about him at
the NFL level yet because of the injuries and the
lack of lack of playing. It's a two back league,
and maybe back it doesn't cost as much as it
would somewhere else because maybe Rico likes being here. Maybe
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Rico likes it close to home. Maybe he likes playing
in the two backs set with Juba. So maybe we
can maybe we can't count on I'm not even gonna
say the word discount, but maybe Rico just fly out
wants to be here and we can count on that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I yeah, although he didn't get paid this go round,
so like Joe said, he's gonna want it. He's gonna
want it this next time, I would think. But the
question is he's a running back. What's the market. You know,
he's had a couple of amazing games. He's having a
pretty good year, but we've seen plenty of Helly ran
for a thousand yards last year and the Panthers got
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him for one year two point seventy five million plus incentives.
I just here's the question, though, or because this guy says,
if you pay both running backs, you're pulling a modern
day Marty Herney. Marty Herney took a lot of flak
for the big money deals that he gave to Stuart
and DiAngelo. Well, now fast forward now bone and the
running back position is even more deemphasized. So do you
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think they'd be committing a cardinal sin to invest they
are right now? They pay running backs to twelfth most
this season, it's over eleven million dollars a year to
twelve most. You would think they would easily go up
into the top four or five if they would pay
Rico along with Cuba. Is that bad spending in twenty
twenty five? I mean, I think you can make a
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case that when you look at their free agent list
outside of Rico, it's mostly backup offensive linemen. It's role players,
it's dj Wanham and Nick Scott. I think it's guys
that you don't feel like you absolutely have to sign.
I think there could be some room there to sign
Rico Dala if you want to truly be a run
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first football team. I don't know, aren't I'm not sure
we're committing some sort of football you know, cap management sin.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
There's also some intriguing free agents outside of Rico that
if you didn't bring them back back, A guy with
Charlotte ties, is a restricted free agent, Emanuel Wilson who's
in that two back set with Josh Jacobs right now
in Green Bay. Bam Knight from Rancy State running back
who's doing some things with the car Cardinals. He's restricted
as well. And Aljier from Atlanta, an unrestricted free agent.
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That's another guy you talk about, a short yardage guy
that can really.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Move the change.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I'm just saying that, Yeah, I'd like Rico back, but
I think there's other alternatives in there as well in
the market that they could look at if Rico maybe
got more than we thought he was going to get,
or maybe more than they were willing to pay.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Do you have a problem though, with paying two backs
in principle? But I guess the question is is this
dude says how much we talking? I guess that's the question.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Bone. I don't have a problem.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You could have got eight million plus per year or
not Rico Cuba. So like, what if you gave Rico
six million a year? Is that too much to be
tied into two running backs?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
No? And I say that now because they're not paying
wide receiver one a lot of money yet he's on
a rookie contract in d mac or Bryce or Bryce
is not broken the bank yet, and we got.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
To see what he's going to get there. You'll have
to get paid. You can actually paid, but you're actually
lower his cap.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Payment in the in the short term, you're not paying
the QB or the wide receivers a lot of money yet.
So for right now, now, where's the money going to go.
It's gotta go somewhere in your offensive pieces, So why
not make it the backfield?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I I don't think it's.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
A tight End's not like a highly paid tight end.
This dude says, we have too, But do you want
to get a highly paid tight end? See that's the
thing too. I wonder if this is the office back
to our city sweete conversation.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I want hey, now, I wonder Bone, if we're gonna
how aggressive we're gonna get this offseason.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I was looking at the edge rusher list, and uh,
I know, Trey Henderson's thirty one, he's a free agent.
I wonder if it's time to get real aggressive at
edge rusher and then you could get a little less
aggressive and go after like a Jaylen Phillips. I tight
end's another position where I wonder if you could get
aggressive and pay a veteran. I wonder if it's time bone. Now, listen,
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they tried to get aggressive last year. They tried to
pay Milton Williams a ton of money and they just
you know, they were outbid essentially, and they had a limit.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
What do you think about that? What do you think
about this fit dog? No one's Kate Aughton is is
a free agent from the Buccaneers. Not only does that
strengthen your passing game? That aval right there. I like
the way you're.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
Thinking as tox to canals, because wasn't he in that
two side of offense when.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
He was to play? So what's It's not a bad idea.
You know, they love their guys with Kate Aughton, by
the way, is.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Just now twenty six years twenty six and a half
years old, so not even really that old.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yeah, no, it's perfect.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
So that's the thing is, are you're going to get
aggressive at other positions like some of y'all are saying,
and that maybe you'd be less apt to pay real
it's also a free agent, but he'd I want nothing
to do without enigma, Nothing to do without enigma. Bony
he's good right where he's at. He's been in the
pits in Atlanta, all that athleticism, and once he bring
him a couple of good games a year, fit dog.
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What do you think about the idea? This dude says
Mac wants to pay two running backs over fourteen million
and you have a second round for running back on
the roster. Mac is living in the nineteen eighties. Do
you agree with that, Fitty?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I am out a date.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Mack's wearing giant shoulder pads and a neck roll that
I am out a day.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
He did a lot of reasons, for a lot of
other reasons. Fitty, that would that be a mistake? You
give Rico six million a year?
Speaker 8 (43:13):
No, I don't think so, but I would so you
gave Tuba what a four year contract extension last year?
I would not want to go anything past to you
know where you got to make an investment at the
quarterback spot. So could you could you convince him to
come back for two years fourteen million? It's still a
short tourd I'd rather give him short term in terms
of years and give him more money as opposed to
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have two guys on the roster with four year contracts,
just because at that point when you got to pay Bryce,
you're gonna have to pay t Mac. You'd imagine at
some point you don't want that and to interfere the
cap if you pay Bryce. If you pay Bryce, We're
gonna pay Bryce Sjong. The Pants will they will invest
in Bryce Shong at some point. But this is the
identity of your football team. So it's just like like
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when the pant was invested in Stewart and D'Angelo Williams.
I have had no issue with that. That was the
identity of the football team. When it was time to
move on and Cam became the focal point, then they
made that decision. So if that's what they're committing to being,
then pay those two guys. Because Brooks isn't ready and
et is not gonna be a guy that could be
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what what what what?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Chico? What what?
Speaker 4 (44:18):
What?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Rico?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Actually the offense, etn feels like that's this is the
role he should be in both third running back, kick returner.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I love his talent, but like he is certainly talent
enough to be in a timeshare rotation, right, Like he's
more than talented enough to have it be you know,
Bruba or whatever we would call it, chucks. I don't know, crooksucks,
I don't know what the hell it would be. But
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
If it was chub, Fiddy took himself and show yes, hey, now,
hey now I'm much better today.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Bone he the and thank God for that. But anyway
that but I just don't think you can bank on him.
You know, I think best case scenario, you get Rico
for another one year deal, But I'm not sure there
might be I'm guessing there's gonna be more demand because
now it's two years in a row.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
He's done it.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Last year, the league might have been skeptical Bone he
did it one year. Now he's done two years in
a row. I feel like there will be more of
a market for him.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Back back to the real quick before we go to break,
I mentioned you had a great idea about tight ends
a free agency and the pitts, I said David Nijoku
of the Browns unrestricted Dallas god Her Eagles unrestricted Isaiah
Likely Ravens love him unrestricted and he's interesting. Travis Kelcey,
unrestricted free agent. We bring do we bring America's couple
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here to the kill.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I love me some Tavis, but I gotta tell you,
I'm not sure our time frame and Kelsey's time frame.
I believe Kelsey should retire personally, I believe he should
walk and live happily with Taylor and let her earn.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
All the money.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Ravens just signed Mark Andrews Right. Isaiah White the game.
Isaiah likely Coastal Carolina.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
He he is good, he's very he did drop two
big basses the last two weeks, but he has a talent.
Speaker 8 (46:02):
No, it's probably not likely to return to Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
I don't want him anymore. I do don't want him anymore.
How about this texter? He here?
Speaker 3 (46:08):
So we have a text that says, why would you
pay a tight end? We don't use them in our offense?
Or do we not use them as as much as
you as you want to see them use because of
who they are as players, Whereas if we go sign
a better pass catching tight end, they would then be
used more.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
Yeah, I think that's probably what it is.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kate Otten had some success with
Canalis in Tampa.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
When we come back.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
David Glenn, longtime radio hosted Charlotte, doing a lot of
media work. Still, he'll talk about the state of the
ACC and the constant belly aching from Notre Dame on
Sports Radio ninety two to seven
Well, just understanding that consistency, you know, consistency winning championships,
and uh, that's where we're fighting for our first you know,
going to get the championship of our division.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
So I'm just understanding that, you know, it's not a
bounce back, no more, is going in every week focusing
and knowing that we have to go achieve everything that
we're set up for.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
That is Turk Wharton knows a little something about winning
championships being with the Chiefs bone and I personally believe
the reason why the Chiefs stink this year is they
lost Turk Wharton. I don't know why the national media
is not focusing on that. Panthers have Turk Wharton in
first They're in first place. Chiefs have Turk Wharton. They've
been eliminated from the division already. So, uh, the coincidence
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I think not. I heard Turk introduced Travis and Taylor together. Yeah,
he was the glue of everything that went on there.
Oh man, you go get to Homes. He taught Mahomes
had a no look passed. He bought Andy Reid's Hawaiian shirts.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
He did it all.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I already introduced Andy Reid to the cheeseburg No, No.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
One's gonna believe that that was childhood. Yeah, you're right,
I would say sometime before he was the giant kid
in the pump punt passing kick competition, he was introduced
to cheese Burgers and became friends with him, became BFFs
with him. Last to be better than the Chiefs. We
waugh because we're better. The John Daily meme and Tiger
meme doesn't even work for the Chiefs and the Panthers anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
No, not the same record. Come on, Cheese, pick up
your game, baby. All right, let's talk about it. Turk
Wrton's right bone. The consistency is the next step and
the thing I keep asking because Bebop says, by next Monday,
Mac will be all over this Panther playoff wagon driving it.
And I'm just and one of the reasons I am
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staying measured and not joining you guys and saying we're
making the playoffs, we're winning the division is it's that
element of consistency that I just are we the twenty
twenty five Panthers ready to become a consistent team to
play close to their best bone every time out? Or
is that going to wait till next year. I've already
told you the twenty twenty six Panther playoff wagon. I'm there,
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I'm already I'm sitting in it right now. You cannot
keep me off that thing because at the very least
bone we are building towards that in my opinion. But
this year, are we a car of tomorrow? We can't
wait to see what it looks like.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Back in the day. This year, are we ready to
do it? Man?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The Bucks look shaky and vulnerable. But the first thing
they have to do in this game, I feel like
it is going to say a lot about the Panthers bone.
They come back off the bye week. They had their
best win of the season, at least one of the
two best, right along with the Green Bay game. We
all know they followed up the Green Bay game with
a complete and total dud. Could really prove a lot
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bone if they show up at New Orleans against a
team that now beat them and beat the Bucks and
who is playing way better two and two in their
last four games. Tyler Schuck is looking like a heck
of a young quarterback.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Right, They won't have to go quarterback in the draft
most likely, Right, It's yeah, that's what it's looking like.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This wouldn't mean a lot bone if they can show
up in just professional game. I'm not saying you have
to blow them out, but just a professional win where
they show up and they play well and it's not
some can't handle prosperity, can't follow up a big win
type effort that we've seen too much this year. So
all that to say to ask the question some of
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you are already texting in how worried are you as
a Panther fan about this Saints game?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Are you afraid that it could be the bad Panthers
that show up? How are you? Are you worried that
the Saints bone are just better? Right now? Like?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
How worried are you about this game? Boning?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I think normal Timothy said it well on the fandual
Tech Saw and he's not nervous about the Saints, He's
nervous about what Panther team shows up. Yeah, I think
that is a proper way to put it. Because the
Panthers play their best, they should beat the worro regardless
of how the Saints are played against the Panthers and
the Bucks. But if the Panthers have one of those
days where they're not into it, they're not playing well
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like they did here, it could be a problem. So
as long as the Panthers show up, and I would
assume after the bye week, this Saints team has their
full attention right now, knowing that they can't reach their
goals if they trip up to the Saints. I mean
they could, but it would take a lot along the way.
You would hope that this is a full focus, not
overlooking the Saints' moment here for the Panthers, So I'm
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going to trust that their focus is completely where it
should be because they've had a lot of time to
focus on this guy.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And plus, let's face it, they kicked your rear end.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Like I would hope just pride says, hold on, now,
we're better than them, and we looked way worse than
them when we played them in our house. Would hope
just pride of being a competitor is going to play
a role. I looked up bone the stats again last
night from that game, and I think I'm gonna bring
myself to rewatching it, although I don't you know what
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I mean, I might cry like Pete Bavakua while I
watched that game back but I'm reading some of the
stats bone and comparing it to the Saints entire season.
The Saints had three hundred and eighty eight yards against
the Panthers in that game. That's the most yards they
had in the game all season. The Saints Bone had
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two hundred and sixty six passyards. That's the most passing
yards they had in a game this season. The Saints
had one hundred and twenty two rush yards. That's the
third most rush yards they had in a game this season.
Then let's flip it to the other side of the ball,
because our offense was complete garbage too. The Saints gave
up to US one hundred and seventy five yards. That's
the lowest total they gave up all season. The Panthers
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had the fewest rushing yards in a single game this
season against the Panthers seven. Again, it's the Saints seventy three,
and the Panthers had one hundred and two passing yards,
a pitdly amount. That is also the lowest amount that
the Saints have given up all season. We made the
Saints Bone look fifty times better than they have looked
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all season long.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
In that game. It was pathetic. It really was I
have a number for you also from that game. That's
two two times in that game, jac Horn fell down. Yes,
and that's the problem, and that completely altered the result
of that game.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
J C.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Hornmack, you would at least assume he's healthy and if
he's good to go, that he would not just randomly
fall down twice to lead to those big places.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
It was so weird.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It was so weird that that happen twice on long
touchdowns in the same damn game. So, yeah, you conventional
wisdom would say he's going to be able to stay
on two feet. Now, we still got to see if
he can get out of the protocol. But your point stands.
I guess I'm saying all this to say the Saints
are two and two in their last four games. They're
giving up eighteen points a game in their last four games.
Their defenses is vastly improved. Hell Cam Jordan, you know
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how I like to write off the Saints old guys,
and then they make me look like a full ye.
Cam Jordan has four sacks in the last four games.
They bone have two wins in the last four games
and a four point loss to a hot Miami team.
They were right there with Miami had to lead in
the fourth quarter of that game. I don't know how
you can't be concerned about the Saints this week, whether
it's the formal Timothy angle, which is the way that
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we have the ability to show up in lay ind Egg,
or the whether it's also that the hey, the Saints are.
The Saints are fighting, they're plucky, they're feisty right now,
you know what I mean. They're not quitting like it
looks like the Falcons have done. It's November one. Record wise,
the Saints are better than the Bucks. I didn't think
we'd have a moment this season where we said that,
But right now the Saints are are playing better football.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
We'll see what happens the rest of the way. Hopefully
Atlanta doesn't like all of a sudden nignight the Bucks
on Thursday to be who they are. But the Saints
are playing better football for the last four or five weeks.
That Tamba Bay is right now, Yeah, it's crazy, but
it's true. Well, we had a Texter who said it yesterday,
who said it, and then they said, I'm not being facetious.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Was it Goldie or was it somebody else? Somebody said
to us yesterday, Oh, Joe person. Joe Person said, he
is almost from a Panther standpoint, more concerned about the
Saints game than hosting than the Bucks game coming up
at home. And I kind of chuckled, and he's like,
I'm not being facetious about it. You could see you can
see your point. Yeah, but which it's the Bucks will
have their full attention. They will, they will. You could
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see the Green Bay or Rams Panthers showing up for
the Bucks Green Bay and Rams Panthers is gonna show
up for this one? Or is this going to be
the Saints Panthers. This is going to be you know,
another form of insert your bad outcome here, Panthers.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
This is this is the roller coaster ride they've been on.
Like every time we're at we think we're, we're up,
We're it's always different than we anticipate. So that this
would fall into that theme of the seasons. So I
think worries are legit here.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I think so. Tim said, as a very twenty
twenty five there's different Tim. He's not formal Bone, He's
formal Tim Tam just wearing a T shirt today, just
regular old Tim. He says, it would be a very
twenty twenty five Panthers thing to do to beat the
Rams and put up six points against the Saints. We did,
We put up seven last time. We lost seventeen to
seven last time. This dude says, if we break our
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losing streak when favored this weekend, I'll be fully brought
bought in on this team. Although did were we favored
against the Jets? Yes, so we did win a game
as favor favorites. We ended up favored it they were
like one and a half I think, so we did
actually do That was the first time since like twenty
twenty two that we had won a game as a favorite.
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Antoine the Mailman says, what about those idiot kids on
that Saints podcast It said we'd be the worst team
in the division.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Those guys, we did.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We did bring up the possibility of reaching out to
him this week, but I don't want to mess with that.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Is that bad Juju bone? Can we at least he
was like, big Juji? Is it accessible to the audio?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Those kids? You have the audio? Those kids want to
see what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Now you don't have to do with this second, but
we need to try to find those kids again on
the audio, like what they're saying now about or what
they said at the beginning where we played it the
first time. Okay, okay, yeah, because now I'm not sure
they're still going back. They've probably got you know, school
war going on now.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
After the last four weeks though, bone they probably think
next year is a super Bowl. See I was talking
about the twenty twenty six Panther play all the way.
They're probably starting the super Bowl Saints wagon seven four five,
seven oh nine six ten. Richie says, shouldn't the Saints
be protecting protecting draft status? They're going for culture wins,
baby Panther fans, you know what I'm talking about, the
good old fashioned culture wins.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, that goes in the words againting, that goes into
what we're saying about Tyler Shuck though. If they feel
like they might feel it's more important for him to
play well and get some wins and they won't have
to go quarterback as high in the draft, so Saints
are maybe they're content with him, And then where were
they land they land? I guess I don't know this
just in Atlanta, Atlanta. Just a reminder, Atlanta does not
have a first round pick this year. The rams of
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that big that's right, it's hilarious. That is hilarious. The
this just inbone.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I believe most NFL teams reguards that a record are
not trying to lose games. I know the players aren't
trying to lose games, not at all all right, with
the lack of job security in the NFL, or contracts
aren't guaranteed. I mean, you're playing for your job there
or somewhere else constantly. Athletes don't. Athletes don't try to
lose games. By the way, we have an update on
Terry Rogier at some point. Unless they have like five
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mob families on the phone, they're not trying to lose games.
How about this? How about this from the seven oh
four number guys. I don't like what I'm hearing today.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
The fact you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Guys don't believe in the Panthers that they can at
least split against the garbage Saints is sad. And the
fact that you're reading off a bunch of text from
Panther fans that are scared shows me there's a lot
of y'all out there that aren't real Panther fans.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is.
He buying that bony.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, anytime you worry about the other team, you're not
real fan fitty right, I mean you just couldn't possibly
be worried at all that that fandom is being blind
in one thousand percent dishonest with yourself. That's what being
a fan. This one, My god, some grass? Would he
like us Boney touched some grass? What does that mean?
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Does that mean get on the field yourself? Yeah, just
mean step outside, re evaluate yourself, touch some grass and
kiss his ass. I just I have a have a
great way of making a point here. Bone is this
guy asking for our approach to the first Staints game.
You talk about digging up some old audio, Bone, we
can also dig up some old audio of guarantees of
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a blowout brigade.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Something that Bone invented.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That is a worse invention than the glowing puck on
hockey broadcast by Fox. It was three scores galore. Would
this guy like us to completely act like we're playing
a Division IIE football because we did that the first
time and it failed miserably.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, like we're playing cedar Pine State or something like that.
So this guy, this guy.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Wants this bag.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Well, Mac, I've got I give you something we've never
done before. We're gonna do something called three scars go
are That means the Panthers went by mar that three
scars and we come back in and we do a
victory dads, because the Saints are going march it out.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That was, that was what that guy wants. That was
a bad one. Boning, that was. That was a bad one.
You can't win with these people. So anyway, freaks and geeks,
you can't win. I think most people like you said
that are being my gosh, turn that phone down. Most
people a lot of activity at the McLean household this morning.
Bone were coming to They're going, they're all moving on
at work. They just put they just put the deer
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Mac letter on the on the counter. JP from Huntersville says,
what part of this year has led us? Hasn't led
us to believe us Panther fans that we can't or
has led us to believe that we can string two
solid wins together. We win one, we lose one. Anthony
wants to know if that was meal mix texting in
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pure poor mew mix man. They got blamed. They showed
up at the damn Charlotte FC playoff game and they
lost and they got blamed for it.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Poor mew Mix.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
What are you going to reach out back when it
comes to blame and just send your condolences because normally
you're the one that's playing.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I feel bad, just like I'm getting blamed for Clemson
blownets on two point hoop leed for my halftime.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I feel you with the internet. Do mac if you
hit on the mixed podcast?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh yeah, let's do it, meow Mix, bring that podcast back,
and I'm going on with you.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
We're gonna put all these curses together because maybe our
curses will cancel each other out.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
This is like the conjuring oh man.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Oh so, anyway, I'm kind of with JP on that.
Huntersville Rob says, what does let's see here? Why does
gen z lingo tickle the boomers so much? I don't
want you tickle on my boomers?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Hunter?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
What lingo is he talking about? I don't know. I
don't know who used gen z lingo? Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I don't remember. I don't even word. You gotta let
us know what't word. But anyway, I'm tickled. I don't
know what what generation is it currently? I'm tickled by
the way the kids talk currently. I I don't know
mac here Max. He cracks me up with some of
his words. Man, peak is the one he's into right now. Ah,
this weekend gonna be peak. Man, this game gonna be peak. Oh,
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I think we've peaked long ago. Apparently we're a generation
Alpha now, got it? Yeah, that's what it is. Touch grass?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Okay, So, Bob, you used that gen z He says
it's a gen Z phrase.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I didn't think so. I see it all the time
on the internet. I don't even I didn't even know
what it meant. I didn't know if it meant you
wanted them to play in a game. You go get
some perspectives, do something I got.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Now if you say touch some grass back to uh
like the Willie Nelson's of the world, they'll they'll they'll
figure someone else out, Willy Nelson, like I've been touching grass.
Hun when we comes out by Jerry Jones, Why don't
do by Jerry Jones or Willie Nelson. I didn't know
that Miss Willy Nelson was a fan of the Noalla's
Kyle Boss. When we come back, notre Dame's assault on
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the ACC continues, but this time another conference commission come
to the defense of the ACC. What what is Notre
Dame trying to accomplish with all the wine. It's Sports
Radio ninety two seven w FNZ.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z, Mac and Bone
with you. We're nervous. We're nervous about the Saints game.
Fired up though, fired up for that game. Hell, I'm
even fired up to see if the Falcons got anything
for the Bucks tomorrow night. I'm not holding my breath,
but we will see plenty of Panther talk on the
show today. It's about go time, Bone, It's about go time.
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The boys will be doing install today for the Saints
game plan and getting that going.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It's it's it's it's go time.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's go time to get ourselves hyped up for the
And I just checked it again, bum brought you by
PSL source for the standing check for the first place.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Panthers.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
All right, much your chagrin, much to the chagrin of
a few angry Notre Dame homers, you're venting to us
on the text line right now, including Shake and Bake,
who says, let me know when you're done bashing Notre Dame,
and I'll tune that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Nobody else is talking about that anywhere else anywhere in
the world.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Shaking bake.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I was done yesterday and then your cry baby a
d PDB decided to hold a whole press conference whinding
some more about the a C.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
What are your people done talking about it?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I mean who, but who honestly believes the acc social
media post bone is the reason that they're out of
the playoff. Yeah, like, come on, you're blaming the wrong
damn entity.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Seriously, you got to give the committee more credit than that,
don't we They're not sitting there just like, oh, look
at this. Oh that's a great point by the AEC
feed I'll taking Miami. I would think that they're not
paying attention to that or doesn't but this is the committee.
But I would hope that that doesn't dictate what they're
a paider.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
The committee listen to lobbying from conferences. There'll be seven
SEC teams in because Darth sank he told them to
put seven SEC teams in. It's just it's bs. It's
like Charlie Brown's teacher.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Ma wah wah wah wah wah, wah, like who even
pays any attention? Is stupid? Conference lobbying.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Do we think that the basketball committees pay attention to
Joe Nardi's every update?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
No, God, I hope not. I would hope not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I mean the ACC wins every year and lobbies every
year for teams. They don't get teams in the NCAA
tournament like they want. So why why is conference lobbying
the reason? Why Notre Dame's out. No, it's just that
we have a business relationship and you broke our relationship. Listen,
all you have in football is a scheduling agreement. But
I don't want to rehash this whole thing. I want
to let you hear the latest from Pete Puvaqua the
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day may d at the presser yesterday, and I want
to ask the honest question, like, do you think Bone
and everybody listening when you listen to what he said
yesterday about the ACC and the social media post, do
y'all think that this is just sour grapes? Do you
think they're honestly that upset and betrayed by the ACC
that they can't help it, that they just want the
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world to know, or do you think there's an agenda here.
Do you think they are trying? Is there an endgame?
Bone that this is part of why are they doing
the two stray days of calling out the ACC when
really I think you should be mad about Bama getting in,
and I think you should be more mad at the
committee like you were on Sunday, And at some point
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I think you should be like Clark Lee, the Vanderbilt
coach who said, and look inwardly, Clark Lee bone flat
out said, we're the reason we're not in the playoff.
We lost two games. Yeah, if we don't do that,
we're in the playoff. And that's a novel way to
look at it. Pete Sampson is kind of a Notre
Dame homer.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
He covers them for the Athletic right more Tennis alegend correct,
so that'd be Pete Stamfords, so God to Harry arm
Yet he covers them, so he's Notre Dame friendly. He
wrote a whole article about you know who's to blame
for Notre Dame missing out of the playoff, and he
got to a portion in the article where it was like,
how about the Notre Dame themselves? And he knows them
way better than I do bone and brought up so
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many points about them. He brought up points about when
some of their losses seem to happen early in the
season under Marcus Freeman. Marshall Northern Illinois two losses this year,
and he said Marcus Freeman and the staff, for all
they do well, need to figure out how to know
their personnel coming out of summer camp. He says, they're
not their best when they come out because they don't
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know exactly there.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
How do you u CJ. Carr?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
They had CJ. Carr playing like Riley Leonard early. Now
he's more of a passer things like that. So how
about this one too. Pete Sampson brought this up. How
about not scheduling as your first two games Miami and
Texas A and m.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Space them out.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, how about not opening with those two when you
have not been at your best? And I don't know
when they scheduled those games, but how about not starting
with two tough ones like that too? So again, I
know at Notre Dame they want to send the message
to their student athletes that when something goes wrong in life,
you cast blame on others. That's a great message to
teach the student athletes what leadership that is. But maybe
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just maybe you could look inward. Here it is, this
is Bavakua yesterday, the ad of Notre Dame, and then
Bone I want to talk about do you think he
is trying? Are they trying to do something strategically with this?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
But what we were really.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Surprised by and disappointed was how the ACC conference really
when on a social media campaign, in my opinion, attacking
our football program. Miami had done that, and they didn't
I get it. You know, all's fair. You know, there's
a great rivalry, decades long rivalry between Notre Dame and Miami,
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and that's the spirit of the universities and the football
programs and fandom and that's what makes college football special,
whether it's Notre Dame, Miami, Notre Dame, USC, Michigan, Ohio State.
But we felt this was different and it raised a
lot of eyebrows, and you know, we made our feelings
known that we didn't particularly understand this, and it just
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kind of puzzled us that a conference that's home to
over six hundred of our student athletes walking around this
campus today. I guess chose to go down that road.
I guess intellectually I understand it, but I certainly don't
agree with it. And why would you attack an unbelievably
important business partner of yours in football, member of your
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conference in twenty four other sports. I'm one person. I
don't see the logic in that. I know other leaders
at the university didn't see the logic in that. And
the ACC is important to us, and you know we're
important to the ACC. And think about football for a minute.
You know those ACC teams want to play us in football.
You know interesting stat since twenty fourteen when we started
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our football relationship with the ACC, if you look at stadiums,
they sell out. ACC game sellout roughly twenty three percent
of the time. When Notre Dame goes to an ACC site,
it's ninety percent of the time. When you think about
ratings for ACC football games when they play Notre Dame,
there's a tremendous lift. I don't understand why you would
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go on a social media campaign to attack an important partner.
Uh now, well, who's some of our important partners in
the football space NBC. We wouldn't do that to NBC. Now,
I understand they have to stand up for their teams
in football. We just think there's other ways to do it,
and it has created damage. I mean, I'm not going
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to shy away from that, and that's just not me speaking.
People a lot more important at this university than me
feel the same way. So I think it has done
some real damage, and I think the a SEC knows that.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Do you think Bone, I'm sorry they even lost golden bone.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
On that one over it.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That was that lasted longer than some.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Ball games, that last relationship than that.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
By the way, In the same press or yesterday, he
then said, I don't want to be dramatic. Oh obviously,
what do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Bone?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Do you like this texture? Says Mac. There's no agenda,
notre dame or just whiny babies. This dude said, Bone
nailed it yesterday. There's no agenda. They're just used to
getting their way. What do you think, Bone? Is there
an agenda here? Is there something they're working their way towards?
Or are they just like so mad?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Why why go back a second day and hold a
whole presser for this?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I have a theory, fiddy, I could use my x
files theme, or I have a conspiracy theory mac on
why the leadership is so worked up at this right
now because Marcus Freeman has put them on a different
level right the last handful of years. They're not just
mac you know, able to get to the postseas like
they're legitimate under Marcus. Last year they were yeah, yeah, yeah,
(25:20):
I'm saying here they weren't even in the postseason. No,
But I'm saying like they view it as they are
that good, not to just get They view it as
we are not just happy to be here anymore. Like
Notre Dame is at a point under Marcus free where
they think they can win it.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
The whole thing.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I wonder if they're worried about how small the window
might be under Marcus Freeman because of NFL rulers. So
I wonder if Bavakua the administration knows that they may
not have as many years with Marcus Freeman as his
age would indicate, because the NFL is calling. And I
wonder if that's why they're heightened right now over this.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So you think it's just like added stress, Yes, but
you're not saying that they're gonna that they may half,
they may lose Marcus Freeman, and they could also go
right back to where they were previously, Like do they
think all this whining is gonna make the committee give
them more of a.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Hell, they already have the sweetheart rules starting next year
that then it's right team playoff. If they're in the
top twelve, they're guaranteed a spot, which AC asked us
a great question yesterday that how did they have the
leverage to get that? Like all the conferences Bone signed
off on that. If it's a fourteen team team playoff,
they're in the top thirteen, they're guaranteed a spot. So
like under that rule, Bone they would have bumped Miami,
(26:32):
like it would have been Ranke higher. They would have
like why did everybody agree to that? What's no name
gonna do? Go play in their own playoffs, intersquad scrimmage,
the best Notre Dame team?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Who is it?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Like, I just so, I don't it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I just wonder if they have angst about maybe Marcus
Freeman's future and that's why they're acting they have diaper
rash all week. I My my feeling is that they
are starting to lay the groundwork for moving away from
the ACC. Is this going to be part of the
justification when they try to work their way out of
the ACC scheduling agreement.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Because impossible.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think they have to look at the ACC right
now and say playing BC and Syracuse and Stanford all
those Stanford's arrival of THEIRS that they will play outside
of this ACC agreement too. But I think they're looking
at a few of those ACC teams they played and
said they get killed our strength to schedule. So I
don't think, and you know, bone they've already been asking,
it's already been reported. They've been asking the ACC can
(27:28):
they play the upper echelon brands more and not just
have a rotation through all the AEC teams where we
play five a year, but we rotate through it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's why they have Miami six times and eleven years
coming up here. They went outside it and scheduled Miami.
They have Clemson of like eleven straight years. That's right,
they went so they went outside the ACC deal in that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But it's like, I think, Fitty, do you think there's
any case of this that this they're trying to and
I don't know if it's like they want to get
out of a contract, so they're trying to like plant
the seeds, like a contray was violated or something. But
I feel like this has to be like starting some
justification for getting out of this schedule.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Some people, this Texter said it's justification to get out
of the ACC and all their other sports. I feel
like they're probably happy in all the other sports in
the ACC, Like ACC is good in a lot of
those Olympic sports.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You know, I don't know, what do you think, Fitty,
Oh they're talking to I'm sorry, Yeah, who knows? Here's
the issue, mac?
Speaker 8 (28:26):
If they're trying to break the scheduling agreement with the ACC,
with the Big Ten and the SEC moving or the
Bigon already being a non conference game schedule, the SEC
moving to a nine game conference model, where else are
you going to get all these these games? You're gonna
get into a schedule aligance with the Big twelve?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You don't think that's what the biddle? What about the
Big Ten though? Like it makes regional sense. It does
for regional sense, but I mean they play they play
USC and Purdue every year, Like you could try, and
I know the USC thing's been up in the air.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I would love it because because you bring back to
the Notre Dame Michigan rivalry, one of the great If
you want.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Them to play the you don't want them play in
the ACC schools.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
Oh no, I mean because because this is the game.
As a Carolina guy, absolutely, because they kick Carolina's ass
every time they play them.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
So you want them out so you don't got to
play them anymore. I want to complain.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
I just worry for them if they're trying to break
away from the ACC, who only plays right now eight
conference games. It's easier for them to do that scheduling money,
it is, where are you going to get these games?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, they have not listened. They have nine conference games
in the SEC and the Big Ten. We brought that
up yesterday. But you don't think the Big Ten would
like to follow either of their schools to play Notre
Dame once a year.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I'm sure, But I mean, how willing would Ohio State, Noted,
Michigan Pence. They'd be willing to play non Big Ten
schools and then Notre Dame every single every.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Three or four every three for Indiana. It'd be perfect
for Indiana, Penn State because they get your schedules ripped.
Go play Notre Dame once each.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Just a thought, could they go to the big Dandy Staples?
It's in my thought alone, and Andy Staples wrote it.
But like it's it's a legit question. Could Notre Dame
take the scheduling agreement elsewhere? I don't think they're dying.
A lot of people think they want to leave the ACC.
I don't get the feeling Bone that they have any
issues with the ACC at all in all the other sports.
I get the feeling that their feelings are hurt right now.
(30:16):
I also think that they that they want to act
like a bully, and it's a lot easier to bully
Jim Phillips and the ACC than go after Greg Sanky.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Oh you don't want you don't want that fight. You
don't want dark Sanky. Bro, No, you'll go missing and
somewhere in the Deep South.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Matter of fact, he said, he said yesterday Greg Sanky
is the only Confence commissioner he's talked to. So he's
talked to Greg Sankey said said he kissed his patuity
like everybody does. But I just wonder is this are
they Is this their their endgame? Because I can't imagine Bone.
It's just for two or three straight days. They've just
been uncontrollably whining. There has to be some tactical Like
(30:56):
the press conference yesterday that had to be tactical, didn't it.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
This has been the most whiny Notre Dame's been in
a long, long since the last time they were whining.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
This is pretty extreme levels.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Though they're playing Chinese checkers, guys, they're trying to be
three steps ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I will point this out though, by we say that
we have a hero though bone the acc Jim Phillips
put out a statement that was too nice for my liking.
I would love to hear Jim Phillips give some public
comments about this and go back after Bavaqua, but he's
probably afraid of losing the Notre Dame scheduling agreement because,
like Bavaqua said, it does do ratings, it does fill
(31:33):
the stadiums up and all that stuff. But Brett Yormark
is the hero and the protector that we didn't know
we needed here in ACC country. Brett or Mark is
the big twelve commissioner. If Jim Phillips won't do it
in anything other than a nice little patty cake statement, bone,
Brett Yormark did it yesterday at a press conference.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I will say this, and I'm a little lot spoken
about it. I don't like how Notre Dames reacted to it.
So okay, I think I think Pete's his behavior has
been egregious. It's been egregious going after Jim Phillips. When
they save Notre Dame during COVID we all knew and it.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Was very transparent.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Hunter was very transparent about it. The chair that as
Notre Dame in Miami got closer together head to head
would be a factor. Okay, b Y, you lost. They
became closer together head to head made a difference in
that decision. So I think he is totally out of
bounds in his approach. And he was in the room
I tell him the same thing.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Your Mark's not afraid to say what the others won't
is he can I say this again, Why can't he
be the accon? I'm sorry, Jim Phillips, I know you
work here in Charlotte. Livey'll you live here in Charlotte.
I'm sorry, but this dude is just badass. This dude
just takes on people. He says things, He's progressive and apart.
I got ideas he does.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
He's got the Big Twelve, who was on the edge
of this extinction all right for itself. I mean, it's
not going to be the other two, but they're they
see why they're having some fun over there in the
Big Twelve. They're a basketball conference right now. Absolutely, this
Texter here seven oh four number. I think it's apparent
to Notre Dame the ACC will cease to exist in
a handful of years and they need somewhere else to go.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
They're probably starting that process. Yeah, that's another thing the
national guys have been talking about bone that I kind
of you kind of slipped my mind. Twenty thirty is
the year where the money to buy their buy your
way out of the ACC starts to dramatically drop. Most
people that cover the sport nationally think that is the
death day. You can put that on the tombstone of
the ACC already, twenty thirty.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah, it's not that far away. In theory. It comes
up pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
The lawsuit settlement was not good for the ACC. It
was good for Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, anybody once
out in five years. Sadly, you know, when we come back,
could the Panthers cheek go backfield continue in the future
at Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I know they want to back.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
They're not in the business of letting good players walk
out the door.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
If they can help it.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I think they'll probably kind of let Rico set the market,
sort of see what's out there and and and just
decide then and there if if that's you know, if
that's gonna work under their cap and with you know,
other things they want to do. Now, you know they
love Juba. You guys know this. I mean the reason
(34:44):
that they extended and when they did.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
They if they like what you know.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
He brings to the locker room and on the field
and all of that. But his contract is not that
unwieldy like they could potentially get out from under that.
I'm not saying they will, but there are and that will.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Probably be part of.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Their negotiation, you know, with with.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
With both sides, that's your person.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yesterday The Athletic check out his article about Jonathan Brooks
and where his rehab is and how Thomas Davis is
helping him along the way we rehab and keeping the
spirits up, which is very cool. It's a great article
and that's chose question, Uh, answer to your question, bone
about and I think he told you was a great question, Bony.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I think he supported your question. I have trouble keeping
track of how many times I get that. I believe
that's three times in the counter you get.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Told it's you asked a great question, as many times
as Sidney Sweeney gets told she's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You know what I mean, it's right there, it's Fiddy.
I've called the Sidney Sweeney Radio. Honestly, you both.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Got very similar qualities. Great eyes, thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
See I would have thought Fiddy was the Sydney Sweeney
Radio because he's the one with the big boot.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Oops. I don't know how you come back from that one.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Why to get so quiet, Anya, because nothing but like
complimentary and.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Union day we have argued. I'm sorry, not just I mean,
now you're going to give you the bad guy. I
couldn't help myself the other board.
Speaker 8 (36:18):
I'm in the second best shape. They're shoppy. There's me,
there's pouch, and then there's smoke.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You're just fun to take, you know what I mean?
You take it well, that's why you take it so well.
Fit that mag made you the boob.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
All right?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Anyway, let's focus on this running back situation bone because
Joe person you heard him there. His feeling is, yeah,
the Panthers are gonna want Rico Dabdle back, but can
they work something out financially?
Speaker 5 (36:45):
When I saw Bone, the.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Rico as we call it, the Chico backfield, bone worked
the way I think they wanted it to work all along,
and for whatever reason, it hasn't.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
You know, they've gotten.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Them both going like that, But I think against the Rams,
that's what they envision, and I feel like if they
do that for another four games.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Hell, maybe a playoff game in there as well, maybe playkay.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
So I wonder Bone if they would try to keep
the Chico backfield together. I know they got Brooks coming back,
they used the second round pick on him, But as
Joe writes in The Athletic Piece, would you trust Brooks
and Etn to be like your top two, like to
be your two primary backups?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Not in a two back league.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I would bring Brooks along slowly and maybe eventually he
maybe he's a piece for you, or maybe he's a
piece for somebody else. I don't know how that's gonna
play out, because I don't know enough about him at
the NFL level yet because of the injuries and the
lack of lack of playing. It's a two back league,
and maybe back it doesn't cost as much as it
would somewhere else because maybe Rico likes being here. Maybe
(37:57):
Rico likes it close to home. Maybe he likes playing
in the two backs set with Juba. So maybe we
can maybe we can't count on I'm not even gonna
say the word discount, but maybe Rico just fly out
wants to be here and we can count on that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I yeah, although he didn't get paid this go round,
so like Joe said, he's gonna want it. He's gonna
want it this next time, I would think. But the
question is he's a running back. What's the market. You know,
he's had a couple of amazing games. He's having a
pretty good year, but we've seen plenty of Helly ran
for a thousand yards last year and the Panthers got
(38:30):
him for one year two point seventy five million plus incentives.
I just here's the question, though, or because this guy says,
if you pay both running backs, you're pulling a modern
day Marty Herney. Marty Herney took a lot of flak
for the big money deals that he gave to Stuart
and DiAngelo. Well, now fast forward now bone and the
running back position is even more deemphasized. So do you
(38:53):
think they'd be committing a cardinal sin to invest they
are right now? They pay running backs to twelfth most
this season, it's over eleven million dollars a year to
twelve most. You would think they would easily go up
into the top four or five if they would pay
Rico along with Cuba. Is that bad spending in twenty
twenty five? I mean, I think you can make a
(39:13):
case that when you look at their free agent list
outside of Rico, it's mostly backup offensive linemen. It's role players,
it's dj Wanham and Nick Scott. I think it's guys
that you don't feel like you absolutely have to sign.
I think there could be some room there to sign
Rico Dala if you want to truly be a run
(39:34):
first football team. I don't know, aren't I'm not sure
we're committing some sort of football you know, cap management sin.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
There's also some intriguing free agents outside of Rico that
if you didn't bring them back back, A guy with
Charlotte ties, is a restricted free agent, Emanuel Wilson who's
in that two back set with Josh Jacobs right now
in Green Bay. Bam Knight from Rancy State running back
who's doing some things with the car Cardinals. He's restricted
as well. And Aljier from Atlanta, an unrestricted free agent.
(40:05):
That's another guy you talk about, a short yardage guy
that can really.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Move the change.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I'm just saying that, Yeah, I'd like Rico back, but
I think there's other alternatives in there as well in
the market that they could look at if Rico maybe
got more than we thought he was going to get,
or maybe more than they were willing to pay.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Do you have a problem though, with paying two backs
in principle? But I guess the question is is this
dude says how much we talking? I guess that's the question.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Bone. I don't have a problem.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You could have got eight million plus per year or
not Rico Cuba. So like, what if you gave Rico
six million a year? Is that too much to be
tied into two running backs?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
No? And I say that now because they're not paying
wide receiver one a lot of money yet he's on
a rookie contract in d mac or Bryce or Bryce
is not broken the bank yet, and we got.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
To see what he's going to get there. You'll have
to get paid. You can actually paid, but you're actually
lower his cap.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Payment in the in the short term, you're not paying
the QB or the wide receivers a lot of money yet.
So for right now, now, where's the money going to go.
It's gotta go somewhere in your offensive pieces, So why
not make it the backfield?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I I don't think it's.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
A tight End's not like a highly paid tight end.
This dude says, we have too, But do you want
to get a highly paid tight end? See that's the
thing too. I wonder if this is the office back
to our city sweete conversation.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I want hey, now, I wonder Bone, if we're gonna
how aggressive we're gonna get this offseason.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I was looking at the edge rusher list, and uh,
I know, Trey Henderson's thirty one, he's a free agent.
I wonder if it's time to get real aggressive at
edge rusher and then you could get a little less
aggressive and go after like a Jaylen Phillips. I tight
end's another position where I wonder if you could get
aggressive and pay a veteran. I wonder if it's time bone. Now, listen,
(41:49):
they tried to get aggressive last year. They tried to
pay Milton Williams a ton of money and they just
you know, they were outbid essentially, and they had a limit.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
What do you think about that? What do you think
about this fit dog? No one's Kate Aughton is is
a free agent from the Buccaneers. Not only does that
strengthen your passing game? That aval right there. I like
the way you're.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
Thinking as tox to canals, because wasn't he in that
two side of offense when.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
He was to play? So what's It's not a bad idea.
You know, they love their guys with Kate Aughton, by
the way, is.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Just now twenty six years twenty six and a half
years old, so not even really that old.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yeah, no, it's perfect.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
So that's the thing is, are you're going to get
aggressive at other positions like some of y'all are saying,
and that maybe you'd be less apt to pay real
it's also a free agent, but he'd I want nothing
to do without enigma, Nothing to do without enigma. Bony
he's good right where he's at. He's been in the
pits in Atlanta, all that athleticism, and once he bring
him a couple of good games a year, fit dog.
(42:49):
What do you think about the idea? This dude says
Mac wants to pay two running backs over fourteen million
and you have a second round for running back on
the roster. Mac is living in the nineteen eighties. Do
you agree with that, Fitty?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I am out a date.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Mack's wearing giant shoulder pads and a neck roll that
I am out a day.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
He did a lot of reasons, for a lot of
other reasons. Fitty, that would that be a mistake? You
give Rico six million a year?
Speaker 8 (43:13):
No, I don't think so, but I would so you
gave Tuba what a four year contract extension last year?
I would not want to go anything past to you
know where you got to make an investment at the
quarterback spot. So could you could you convince him to
come back for two years fourteen million? It's still a
short tourd I'd rather give him short term in terms
of years and give him more money as opposed to
(43:34):
have two guys on the roster with four year contracts,
just because at that point when you got to pay Bryce,
you're gonna have to pay t Mac. You'd imagine at
some point you don't want that and to interfere the
cap if you pay Bryce. If you pay Bryce, We're
gonna pay Bryce Sjong. The Pants will they will invest
in Bryce Shong at some point. But this is the
identity of your football team. So it's just like like
(43:56):
when the pant was invested in Stewart and D'Angelo Williams.
I have had no issue with that. That was the
identity of the football team. When it was time to
move on and Cam became the focal point, then they
made that decision. So if that's what they're committing to being,
then pay those two guys. Because Brooks isn't ready and
et is not gonna be a guy that could be
(44:16):
what what what what?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Chico? What what?
Speaker 4 (44:18):
What?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Rico?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Actually the offense, etn feels like that's this is the
role he should be in both third running back, kick returner.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I love his talent, but like he is certainly talent
enough to be in a timeshare rotation, right, Like he's
more than talented enough to have it be you know,
Bruba or whatever we would call it, chucks. I don't know, crooksucks,
I don't know what the hell it would be. But
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
If it was chub, Fiddy took himself and show yes, hey, now,
hey now I'm much better today.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Bone he the and thank God for that. But anyway
that but I just don't think you can bank on him.
You know, I think best case scenario, you get Rico
for another one year deal, But I'm not sure there
might be I'm guessing there's gonna be more demand because
now it's two years in a row.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
He's done it.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Last year, the league might have been skeptical Bone he
did it one year. Now he's done two years in
a row. I feel like there will be more of
a market for him.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Back back to the real quick before we go to break,
I mentioned you had a great idea about tight ends
a free agency and the pitts, I said David Nijoku
of the Browns unrestricted Dallas god Her Eagles unrestricted Isaiah
Likely Ravens love him unrestricted and he's interesting. Travis Kelcey,
unrestricted free agent. We bring do we bring America's couple
(45:37):
here to the kill.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I love me some Tavis, but I gotta tell you,
I'm not sure our time frame and Kelsey's time frame.
I believe Kelsey should retire personally, I believe he should
walk and live happily with Taylor and let her earn.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
All the money.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Ravens just signed Mark Andrews Right. Isaiah White the game.
Isaiah likely Coastal Carolina.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
He he is good, he's very he did drop two
big basses the last two weeks, but he has a talent.
Speaker 8 (46:02):
No, it's probably not likely to return to Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
I don't want him anymore. I do don't want him anymore.
How about this texter? He here?
Speaker 3 (46:08):
So we have a text that says, why would you
pay a tight end? We don't use them in our offense?
Or do we not use them as as much as
you as you want to see them use because of
who they are as players, Whereas if we go sign
a better pass catching tight end, they would then be
used more.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
Yeah, I think that's probably what it is.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kate Otten had some success with
Canalis in Tampa.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
When we come back.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
David Glenn, longtime radio hosted Charlotte, doing a lot of
media work. Still, he'll talk about the state of the
ACC and the constant belly aching from Notre Dame on
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