December 10, 2025 • 46 mins
In the third hour, Mac & Bone are joined by David Glenn, who talks about the fallout of Notre Dame missing the CFP, they do a Hornets check-in with the Voice of the Hornets, Sam Farber, and a legendary Coach O story headlines Random Crap
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Owen's Mack and Bow on your radio if it's listen
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my freem te.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Bone, what's up the fun? I can't go to work
without listening to the Mac and Bone do a lot?
All right, y'all, let's do it. Let's do it. Eight o'clockers.
Welcome boy.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We having fun here on the Mack and Bone Show.
I mean, do who doesn't have fun when you're blasting
Notre Dame? I mean, how is that not?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Some of you actually like that? My bad, I forgot
about that. While I'm having a good time doing that.
We're also talking about the Panthers and the playoff chase,
the divisional chase in the NFC South. Tied up with
four to go, two of them against the Bucks. Cannot
wait for the Panthers to get back in action this
week in New Orleans against the Saints. Need some damn
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revenge against the Aints too, There's no doubt about that.
Right now, Bone, let's talk through through some acc issues.
Right what happened with you know, Duke winning the conference championship?
Now my fault, the tiebreak. Can't blame Bone, can't blame
the Blue Devils. They just simply went out one m
sells a title. But what about the tiebreaker system? What
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about the fact that Miami got in the way they did?
What about the Notre Dame Pete bavakua led crusade against
the ACC. We could talk about all things ACC. Hell,
even improved ACC hoops. Bone maybe come up as well
with our next guest, who has covered the ACC for decades.
Y'all got to look into his NC sports net right now.
(01:36):
Great content you can find on YouTube or at the
NC sports Net on Twitter. Great coverage of sports in
the tar Heel State. He is David Glenn and he
joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. David,
Happy holidays, man, How you doing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I'm doing great. Always fun to be with y'all. Happy holidays,
break back to.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You all right, we appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, let's start first the biggest headlines and then trickle
our way down to other storylines. This Notre Dame war
on the ACC, I mean, the Dan Patrick interview was
one thing. A whole presser yesterday, with most of the
presser devoted to Pete Bavaqua's issues with the ACC and
their social media campaigning. On behalf of let me check
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my notes here an actual football member of the conference
in Miami. What do you think? Are you surprised by this?
Does Notre Dame have a point at all in any
of this is there? Do you feel like there's an agenda?
Are they getting at something here or are they just whining?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
My question for Pete Povaqua would be are you new here?
Because this was a guy, remember that was a television
sports executive for a very long time, and a really
good one, and he did not start his job at
Notre Dame until last year twenty twenty four. So his
first year.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
At Notre Dame, of course, remember they lost at home
to Northern Illinois, but they still made the college football playoffs.
His second year this happened. And meanwhile, remember I think
the backdrop to all this is that the twelve human
beings who are currently deciding what the future of the
college football playoff is going to look like are conference
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commissioners and Pete Babaqua so he knows.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Brett Yormark is a big twelve commissioner who just took
a shot at Babaqua, calling his comments egregious. You rarely
see a conference commissioner.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Call out another powerful administrator that way. I think the
starting point for Notre Dame and its fans is fair, like,
why were we ranked over Miami for.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Four straight weeks? But then even though neither of us played,
you know, all of a sudden there at the end,
and the only rankings that mattered.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Like, I understand why they're mad, But come on, man,
you know, if you want to get the full treatment
of a full member, be a full member of the ACC,
and don't wind that they went to bat for the
Miami Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
DG.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
What do you think about the future of the relationship
between Notre Dame in the ACC and where it may
go from here.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's delicate, you know, but everything is delicate in this world.
You know, we've talked in the past. I think about
how so.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Many of these TV deals, including Notre Dames which ends
in twenty twenty nine, many of them end around that
same time. Not the accs that one goes a little
bit longer.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But there's all sorts of belief that there's just going
to be a new world in college sports, college football specifically,
maybe you're right around twenty thirty something, Super conferences or
maybe two super leagues, three super leagues. Who knows how
it's going to work exactly, but I think a lot
of this jostling for position is with that kind of
stuff in mind.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Remember when Florida State and Clempson basically won their lawsuits
against the ACC, the ACC really caved. You know, there
was never a judge's decision. The ACC just kind of
caved and they got out of the granted rights doesn't
exist anymore. Remember, the exit have dropped, So if Notre
Dame wanted to leave, you know this summer or next summer,
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it's not nearly as expensive.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
As it used to be to leave the ACC.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
But I think pe Pavaqua was probably going to calm
down a little bit along those lines. And remember, you know,
the ACC is a seventy three year old league that
has made exception to its rules for one school and
only one school in seventy three years, and that's Notre Dame.
And Notre Dame did that join the ACC is that
member in most sports, but not in football, in part
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because the Big Ten laughed at Notre Dame when the
Irish wanted a similar arrangement with the Big Ten. So
I think enough people are going to whisper in Pepavaqua's
ear that, at least for now and through the end
of this decade, the ACC gives the Notre Dame folks
everything they want. They want football independence, they want, they
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want scheduling options for all their other teams. The ACC
gives them that. They want some scheduling options for football.
The ACC gives than that, and they want it at
least an avenue to.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
The college football playoffs. And yeah, it didn't work for
them this year, but it did work for them last year.
And remember hitting twenty twenty, that COVID year. If it
wasn't for the ACC, Notre Dame would have been left
hung out to dry.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Acency allowed Notre Dame to play it its football championship
game that year, and the Irish ended up in the smaller.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
College football playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So that's a lot of bending over backwards for the
fighting Irish. And even if the bakwall.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Was mad for a few days, I think cooler heads
will prevail for the short term. But your guess is
as good as mine as to what this world looks
like five years from now.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
It just came down Notre Dame will send out the
LEPRECN today to address Jim tops Oh, touchdown Jesus and
are the only two that haven't spoken yet on the matter.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Oh, we got a great text, Brett. Your mark is
a great commissioner for the ACC. Oh, he's not the
commission of the ACS. I gotta tell you, Jim Phillips.
How about you get that? How about you get that
mean and nasty?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
All right?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Anyway, we're we're talking with David Glenn. He's not meaning
nasty either. Ladies and gentlemen, the NC Sports Net. Check
it out on YouTube, check it out on Twitter. All right,
So what do you think about the way that it
went down for the ACC's pursuit of playoff college football
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That the conference champ doesn't get in that because five
loss Duke wins it all, but Miami is able to
get in the way they did. Did you think Miami
deserved to be in? And are you kind of thinking
like we are that maybe they should heed the warning
and kind of change their tiebreaker formulas so that if
you have a higher ranked team, they're guaranteed to be
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in that conference title game.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
What do you think about all this?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I agree with that that the ACC needs to revisit
the tiebreaker scenarios because we all knew. I was there
for that ACC title game between Duke and Virginia. We
all knew that an eight and five ACC champion was
not going to make it, not with Tulane having that
great record in the American Conference, not with James Madison
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being twelve and one and the champion of the Sun
Belt eight to five from any league I don't think
would make it, and not in a twelve team format,
So the ACC would have been wise. You know, Virginia
went seven and one, so Virginia earned its way to Charlotte.
The tie breakers should have reflected the College Football Playoff
rankings the way other conferences tiebreakers do, and that would have,
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of course put in Miami sixtion two Overduke sixtion two
in conference play.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
In that game, and it would have been you know.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It would have been a scenario where no matter whether
Miami won or Virginia one, the ACC would have been
pretty much guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
At least one team in the College Football Playoff. Now
they got lucky.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Miami ends up wiggling in as an at large, and
I do believe the Hurricanes deserved it. It was a
close call, right, I mean, I do feel bad for
Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They had a good resume. They won ten straight games.
You're only two losses were to Texas A and M.
In Miami, they beat Southern Kyle, they had some other
good wins. I felt bad for BYU. I mean, but
that's the nature of this stuff, right, Like, if you're
a bubble team, you become a beggar, right, whether it's Selection.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Sunday with March madness. You know, if you go eleven
and one in a major conference, you're not going to
end up being a beggar. If you go ten and
two under the current format, you know they're going to
just scrutinize the details of every win and every loss,
and you know, game control and all those other metrics.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So there's a couple teams that.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I think got left out in a tough fashion.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
But I do think the.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Hurricanes earned their way in with win. He's like the
one over Notre Dame especially.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Do you think they can do some damage in the
College Football Playoff A and M the first game last year,
ACC did not win. But how much of a chance
you get Miami to beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think they have a shot, but bone remember last
year all for the home teams won on the opening weekend, right,
and then remember all four of those same teams beat
the top four seeds the next week, which was crazy
a year ago. I don't think that part will happened.
But when I look at this week's four matchups or
next week's, I should say I think Miami has as
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good a chance as any of the visiting teams to
get a win. You know, Texas showed Mike elco of
Texas A and M is a heck of a coach
formerly of Duke, But Texas A and M is not
quite as much of just a steam roller as say
the Georgia Bulldogs can be, or Ohio State or even
Indiana now. But the Kynes I thought played the best
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football in the ACC all year long. Their losses to
SMU and at Louisville were very close games. They have
balanced offense, defense, special teams. The one question is what
is Carson Beck going to do for the Kings as
a downfield passer. It actually reminds me a little bit
of some conversations that you guys have been all over
for years now with Bryce.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Young and the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Miami does so many things well that if Carson Beck
can just scare defenses with his ability to throw the
ball downfield, everything else works better. The short passing game,
the running game, et cetera. Miami's defense is good enough
to beat anybody. Miami's talent level is.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Good enough to beat anybody. But I understand why they're
the underdog at Texas A and M. And I would
not be surprised if the four winners next next Friday
or are Alabama A and m Ole Miss and Oregon
the four hosts.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
All right, last last thing I want to ask you
is let's end on a high note for the ACC
being the champs. I think Duke winning test and forgotten
here David Duke is the champions football.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I thought you're moving on to basketball like usual. You
got to you gotta go through the Senate to get
that mentioned on the show.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I was going to go, I was gonna go hoops, Bony,
I think, and that should be good for you too.
Duke's won some big games. The ACC in general, I
think looks much improved.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
What are your early thoughts on this year's Accman, just
look at the challenge and how competitive it was. I
hate that they ended up getting routed on the second night,
but it feels like a much better ACC in basketball
this year.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I agree wholeheartedly. And I do think the ACC SEC
Challenge is kind of symbolic of where the league is.
When they went to in.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Fourteen last year, it was just a harbor gear of
things to come. Man, and and of course they end
up getting four teams in the NCAA tournament. When you're
an eighteen team league, four is a disaster. I mean
back when we were young or.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I was anyway, they get six out of their nine
members in the nc DOUBLEA Tournament in basketball, I mean
that's two thirds. That's about as good as a guess
four out of eighteen as an embarrassment. But so yeah,
this year's performance in that challenge was better.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Duke is really good, Louisville is really good.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I think that next year of North Carolina, Virginia, NC State,
maybe Clemson, maybe even Miami under the first year co
J Lucas, maybe SMU, maybe Wake Forest. Right, I mean,
that's that's half the plums in the league at least
look like they have the ability to become an NCAA
tournament team.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
That doesn't mean they'll get nine bits, but if if
even six or seven.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Of those nine turn out, well that's a massive, massive
step in the right direction for ACC basketball. And when
you look around, guys, Cameron Boozratu is not only one
of the best freshmen in the country, one of the
best players in the country. Caleb Wilson at Carolina same
one of the best players in the country. And that's
the seme at the top of the ACC. And that's
another welcome site for a league that was licking its
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wounds last year.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He is David Glad everybody check him out. Check the
North Carolina Sports Network out on Twitter at the NC
sports Net. Check it out on NC sports Net on
YouTube as well for great content covering sports in our
great state.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
DG.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You rock Man, Always good catching up with you.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Thanks for coming on right back at you guys, Always great, DG.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All right, be good. There you go.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
David Glenn joining us on the Mac and Bone Show
to talk all things accuh bone. How about that football
championship for Duke Man? You know, well, thanks for talking
about it. You know that I'm finally seeing the light.
We really should. How about that football title bab you
know what that game was. It was on Saturday. What's
today's Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Wednesday?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
I'm still fighting for some for that game, you are,
and I'm finally giving it to you. Until I went
to overtime, I didn't tell what's over time.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
For most of the game they were in control.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I I told, I gave you my spiel. Because Duke fans,
Boney's cronies were very mad at me. On Monday, I
was downplaying the title and I was told I acted
like a jerk.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Somebody said Bone should punch me. Duke fans were trying
to get Bone to be violent with me. I do
maintain that you cannot deny that Manny Dia has done
a hell of a job and that Duke has a
hell of a quarterback already for next year, like Duke football.
Like it's Duke football winning the conference, so it should
be celebrated.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Bom it will be. It will be a few They
have to go now, they have to go in the
Sun Bowl. That's where they send the champions. The Charlotte
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Speaker 8 (15:41):
Charlotte number twenty seven and seventeen two wins against Toronto.
Zach ridiculed me when I made them my number six
pick in the League Pass draft a couple weeks ago.
They're a great League Pass team. I love watching Charlotte, Yes,
I really enjoyed it. I just really enjoy when they
have other guys. Brandon Miller is one of those guys
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if you catch on the right night, like this guy
might make five all NBA teams.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's weird. The weak part of their team is Lamello.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Not knowing what you're getting from him game to game,
and then even when he plays, then they like deferred
him too much and he's that's the part they can't
figure out.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
There you go, Bill Simmons, I don't even think bone.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Maybe Eric Collins, maybe our next guest, Sam Farber, maybe
the great Walker Male. I'm trying to think of people
that enjoy watching the Hornets more than Bill Simmons's boat.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Doug Buckets Branson. There you go, she handles Randall. I
love watching him when the good horn it show up.
I will say that. Other times I'm screaming at the TV.
But no, in all series, this Bill Simmons is. That's
always his message. Is this core when they put them together,
and he dog Lamello a little bit there, but this
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core when they're healthy and together. Man, it's a fun
team to watch. And he is preaching to the choir
here in Charlotte over this. We want more of those
guys together. We can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Bone And you pointed out something that I don't think
a lot of people know. I saw this on social
media the other day. Now, is it still two and
a half. I didn't realize they were that close to
the play in. Yeah, two and a half. Game is rough? Well,
we like a rough East that helps. So that's very interesting.
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So I'm sure we can bring that up with Sam Farber.
If you can get this core healthy for a while,
you know, is that playing in something that feels like
it's right there in range in sight. Let's bring him on.
He is the radio voice of the Charlotte Horns. He's
got a few days off this week. With these Leagues
Cup quarterfinals being played midweek. The Hornets are off, of course,
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from Sunday's game until Friday's game at home against the Bulls.
Sam Farber joins us here in the middle of those
days off. Sammy, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
What's happening Mack and Bone? I'm with youreciate the love
from Bill Simmons, And I can confirm I am one
of the few people who watches more Hornets than him,
but it's not by much. He's a devoted fan.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He does and you know he's a hoops junkie. Yeah,
he's so, He's flipping through channels and I can see it. Man,
Lamello's in there lobbing to my.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You could. I mean, we all know it. We all
know the Hornets.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Bone when like well, hell, when Sam starts screaming, it
has to drop a Doctor Pepper dunk.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
On us, you know, like that, like the good Hornets,
the fun Hornets can look like three point shot. To
get all those sponsors in there, Conn has hit a
lot of loose.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
We appreciated our Our sponsorship team is like kaching Kaching, Yes,
Tek Mark, Chuck Mark.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
How how needed was this break? We were talking on
the pregame show a couple of times. It went Friday, Sunday,
Friday Sunday this week and then Thursday again. So it's
almost like, uh, an all Star break within the season
right now when he don't make the NBA Cup, right.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I mean it's important because Charlotte, as you guys have
been leaning towards, has been dealing with a lot of injuries.
We came into the season, you know, hoping that we'd
survive a stretch where Grant Williams and Josh Green were
going to be down for a considerable amount of time
having undergone surgery prior to the season. But you know,
no one could foresee that. You know, Game two, after
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a spectacular star Brandon Miller has the shoulder injury, and
so you know, the team's kind of been back and
forth with who's in who's out, and that's made things difficult.
But you've opened the door for some rookies to step in,
establish themselves in the NBA, show their capabilities right from
the jump, and create a good baseline here where I'm
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in agreement. I think if this team is healthy. We've
got a decent opportunity to see what they can do.
They've won for their last seven games, so they're playing better.
But you know, having those key pieces on the floor
simultaneously is still something we have not seen in a
longer stretch so far this season.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Sam, I'm going to allow you to give me the
speech I need all right to turn my mindset around. Okay,
I'm going to allow you to give me to ins
rational speech I have been on here, Sam. I don't
know if you've heard it or not, and I feel
like you'd be disappointed in me. I may have fellas
a time or two referenced how good this lottery's going
to be, all right, and how good one of these
guys in the lottery would look next to Kahn and
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Brandon and these guys. Do you think I should shut
up about that, Sam and focus on general or that
I'm sorry you you didn't just think you actually said that?
Or do you think I should focus on what Bone said?
They're two and a half games out of the play
in the East is really weak. You said, like, what
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should I should I get those draft lottery thoughts out
of my head, Sam.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean, I just think it's way too early to
focus on the lottery from the perspective of we need
to do something to improve our standings on multiple fronts. One,
we don't know what this horned team looks like. Hole,
and these rookies just keep getting better and better. So
there is a very real possibility with three quarters of
the seas and left, Charlotte's not just fighting to climb
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over into you know, a ten spot, but there's enough
runway in front of this team that if Charlotte gets
healthy and someone in the top six has a bad
run of luck when it comes to health, things can
flip pretty dramatically. So that's one part of it. The
other part is, you know, we're seeing these draft boards
and I've heard all the things that you guys are
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hearing about how talented this group is. But I heard
it all going into last season's draft about Cooper Flag being,
you know, the greatest American prospect we've seen since Lebron
And now everyone's like, oh, it's it's kind of a
whole Hume draft. Who knows, but you know, conkainipples this
great player. I mean, this cycle happens a lot and
you're guessing on eighteen nineteen year olds, and it's a
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very educated guess. I again, I've heard what you guys
have heard that it's a very good draft class. But
someone's saying that they're willing to put their franchise through
the misery of a tank, whether that's Indian organization or
out of the organization, you know, saying that they want
that over the next several months. I think it's way premature.
Plus the third point, it doesn't work. Dallas was in
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the play in tournament last season and you know they
hit the what four in one thousand that combinations that
had their name on it, and they ended up with
the number one pick, and even then they lose their
GM over. So there's just so much that can happen
that I don't know that it's worth voting that much
attention to bone.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Sam just sent me to my room. Did you hear that?
Sam is just very disappointed in Ma's it's disappointed, Dad.
I'm not bad, I'm disappointed in you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Matt Tanner.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Let's here, Sam, may I suggest in your few days
off here go check out kjr CA Nipple highlights. That
is cod Brother class of twenty twenty seven. This is
the six ten Nipple.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
See this, This went from Mac saying can we stop?
Can we start watching more college basketball? And now Bone
is saying, let's watch more high school.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Mass I'm on a I have a Knipple newslter that
I get Right now we're focused on.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Bone has a dream that the Charlotte Canipples will be
a thing where half the Hornets will be Knipple brothers
at one point. Well, they're going to go from Duke
to the Hornets, right that's where Yeah, that's what you want.
You know, there's four more brothers than like eleven cousins.
We are going to go full to Nipple for about
a generation. Sam, what if you thought about T John
to tea return from Greensboro and how improved he's been.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Really, really strong. And this is something that we talk
about a lot as well. How you know, people get
all geared up for the draft and they look at
these prospers and say, all, you know, so and so
is going to be the second coming. Just get in
the little time and then they're drafted and everyone makes
an assumption based off their first ten games and figures
that's how it's going to be for the rest of time.
T John salon Er the league as the youngest player
in his draft class. He's still the second youngest player
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on the Hornets currently. He is younger than Conk Nipple
five pounds. You can't piece that kind of size and
athletic ability. And he had an okay shot coming into
the NBA, but he's certainly worked on it a lot.
Now he's shooting close to fifty percent from three. He's
making very sound, quick decisions. I really like the way
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that he's playing, and he's only going to get better
as he continues to gain reps in the NBA and
build on, you know, his knowledge of the game through doing.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Sam What do you what do you think about Liam
mcneely's He's the rookie that we've probably talked about the
least right because his role has, you know, has been
the lesser of the four. He's also had some health
issues there too, but I think you're starting to see
it from him. The other day he talked about, hey,
my roll off the bench, just bring some energy, change
the energy of the game. He's also seems to be shooting.
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He feels more confident, you know, he's got a shot
on him. What do you think about the strides he's making.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Very very good especially for him being the youngest player
on the team. You know, he's coming in with the
most room to grow from a physicalityality standpoint, and just
you know gaining you know, body mass and strength that
normally comes with, you know, going from nineteen to twenty,
twenty one to twenty two, so on and so forth.
You know, with him, I like the way that he
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is making decisions out there on the offensive side and defensively.
He definitely gives a lot of effort, and he's learning
how the NBA game has played different angles. He works
tremendously hard at this. I think it's a good thing
that he's getting some reps here, and I think that
he is the kind of person and personality that people
are going to gravitate towards within the fan base and
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within the rostering. He's just a really good team player,
but his feeling is way way off in the future.
These early returns though, a very positive sign. If you
can establish that you can do something even as simple
as catch and shoot at an NBA level this early,
it gives you a lot of confidence and things to
build on. Whether that's going to happen consistently with the
hornets with the swarm for the rest of this season.
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We don't know, but this is the guy who's going
to be a really hard work is going to get
the most out of this year in his NBA career.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
All right, Sam, we appreciate you, brother. People are now
comparing the Canipples to the Plumblies. People are now requesting
a bone a Canipple power song, off your plumbly power?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Can you do a Canipple song?
Speaker 7 (26:15):
And you aren't around for plumbly power? My theme song
I had for many years. It's plumbly power that the
plump lease.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
This whole. All of your guys listeners are like so
dedicated I guess to having one family dominate the roster.
It's the plumb Leys, the Ball family, and now we
want all Canipples. They're in high school. They've given them
some time. But I agree that there's a lot of
talent there. Clearly the cainnippal U basketball power is extended
beyond time. But he's off to a great start. And
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we've heard great things about the younger ones.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Those dastardly Zellers trying to get involved in Sultan Oh,
they were one.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
They were they were one. They had Luke Zellar, didn't they?
They had three, didn't they? You're right, all the hoops.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Fans all over the place, all right, all right, well, hey,
we appreciate you joining us. I know it's a break
for you, for them, for the team right now. But
Friday's a good night to get out to the hive,
right Sammy.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Absolutely got great tickets still available for that one. Friday
nights are always electric at Spectrum Center. Bulls come to town.
It's been a good matchup for the Hornets there. The
Bulls speaking, they're they're kind of reeling right now with
a few injuries of their own, and hopefully, knock on wood,
Charlotte gets healthy. When we've seen LaMelo ball Brandon Miller
on the floor simultaneously, this Horns team has a winning record,
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so you know, we've seen some breadcrumbs here of what
the future might hold for Charlotte. Hopefully that future becomes
now starting on Friday.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Sammy whisper to me, no one's going to hear it.
Just whisper to me. Is Lamello playing on Friday?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What do you know? A good question? I do not know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But we have a practice today so I can possibly
whisper to you tomorrow what we're seeing. But so far
it you know, they get a little bit of a break,
just as we get a little bit of a break.
But we'll see what happens at practice today and keep
our fingers crossed for good news.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
All right, sounds good? All right, sam We appreciate you, man, big.
Watch that Canipple film, all right, watch that stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I'm gonna watch that. The you know, the the belly
aching from Babakua and all the Notre Dame people.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh you're a usc man. You got no love for
Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I just just like pick a better target, like you
lost to Miami and you don't have as good a record.
Just either a win the games or b pick a
better target.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Agree, Agree, all right, Sammy, We appreciate you man.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Take care, guys.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
There he is, sunshine, Sammy telling me Boney to not
be not be glancing at draft prospects, all right, and
telling you to not glance on the Canipple film. It's
power somebody big and they're white. They're the Caniples. Somebody
somebody said, Canipple film sounds like something dirty.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Back, sounds like you're watching something scrambled back in the
mid nineties.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Not that that was me trying to get back. No,
not at all. That never happened in the bone zone.
Not watching the shan a tweet movie.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
H somebody says, what kind of who names their kid Cager?
That would be uh the CON's parents. Cag's parents would
be lovely Sherry Canipple and her husband.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What are the names? Don't they all kind of uh
do they all have They all.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Have k names right, yeah, but I don't know the
other ones yet. I'm only focused on Cagre and Con
right now, Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You're not that crazy that you're going down to like
the youngest one that's like eleven or something.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
There's probably gotta be a Kyle, a Corny Canipple, probably
a Chris.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Hey the k it's k r n. Oh my god,
I'm very good. We will dig that up for you.
Just show goes on the full Canipple son's names. We
will dig that up. It's some Cager. Oh there you
got it. Okay, here they are.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
It's Con Cagr Kinston Cash and kid Cash is a
k Okay, So it's okay, bro, So say about loud
Cagr Canipple, Kinston Canipple, Cash Canipple, and Kid Cannipple bro
kid can Nipple. It has to be a baller. I
love that name, short for kidman.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Okay, okay, oh my god, I sense a pattern. That's
the way my my wife's family always named their dogs
b names that the Canimple said, we will just do
that with our own children.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
I never knew.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I've never known anybody do that with actual human children.
That's interesting.
Speaker 10 (30:20):
And my family have three a's and three js.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
We is that a rule? You gotta be a's or js.
Speaker 9 (30:25):
Whenever they we had my when they had my youngest sister, yeah,
they had to give her an a name to even
out the.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Okay, interesting parents do that, Okay, all right?
Speaker 7 (30:35):
And the uncles are Clay and Cole. Okays, yes, oh
my god. So this goes back generations.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's the uncles, the flying Nipples there.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
What's his dad's name, Conrad with a K, it just
says Canipples father.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I'm trying to figure that. I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I can't figure that out. It's got to be a K, right,
has to be little Kramer Canipple Oh he's con senior.
Oh that's right, Yeah, he's consent. That's twice. His middle
Cod's middle middle name is just the two right, the
New World too. This is h he's got the New
World too? Has his middle name?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Really?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's his middle name?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Cod two canipple? Yeah, damn so bad as that is, man,
I love this family. They need a reality show, hell
with the Kardashians.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Give me the damn ca nipples. That also sounded weird
done the.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
First time he said that.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
I want to point out a newsy, a little bit
of a newsy note before to go to break here.
The Big Twelve has adopted the ACC's transparency rule when
it comes to football replays going forward.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Everybody should, man, everybody should do this right, just a
no brain or the SEC. I'm sure none want to
do that. Those damn uh you know, cheating.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
The other noddle.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
They said, all right, what we have here? And the
guy said, all right, Notre Dame's gonna be pissed off here.
How pissed will they be? He said, all right, Notre
Dame's pissed off? Everyone good? Everyone good?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Everyone? A great Dame's pissed off? All right, Jack, go.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
When we come back on the Mac and Bone Show,
ran dm crap. We have a question about pop tarts.
Matc Junior has a take from from the from his
lunch table at school and coach oh coach or drawn
as an amazing recruiting story. Sports Radio ninety two seven
w FNZ Random crap, random crap. Mac and Boone talk,
(32:22):
random crap, random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk
random crap, random, random crap, random crap, random crapuck.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
Crap, Oh crap.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We stink like a baby's blowout infested diaper.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Crap that is random.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
It's the Queen City's favorite morning tandem, Mac and Bone.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Random crap, Mac and Bone.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's time let's have some fun. Let's do a little
bit of random crap. Coming up into nine o'clock hour,
the much anticipatory union of Willie p and Fitty Fitty
with a comment last week it might have been a
little overboard, a little over zealous about Willie and you
know his personal trainer, and you know Willy's wife, and anyway,
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it's the P man who's been unhappy with Fitty ever since.
That reunion occurs here at the top of the hour,
we also have to ask the question, is it time
where we turn the tide and give David Tepper some
credit for the Panthers success.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I like the topic.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
We get into that one as well, So that's coming
up at the nine o'clock hour. But right now, Bone,
let's do some random crap, shall we, And let's crap.
Let's let's sing it, Bone, sing it. Let's start it
off here with ladies and gentlemen. Let's start it off
with the story I read from Front Office Sports yesterday
(33:52):
Bone about Taylor Swift. I don't know if anybody else
has noticed this, but I have noticed all season and
it's bothered me that Taylor Swift is not shown near
as much as last season at these football games. Now
I know she hadn't been gone to the road games
because of course I care way too much about this,
they showed her only one time in the game the
other night, Bonie, Front Office Sports actually rode about I
(34:14):
was waiting for some reporter to give me to scoop
on this. She has been strategically placing herself at different
parts of the suite so that she doesn't appear on camera.
Also TV Networks also, according to Front Office Sports, have
decided to ease.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Up on the showing of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Plus, let's face that the Chiefs are taking l's, Travis
Kelsey's dropping football's that turned into interceptions Boat, so they're
not going to show her when that happens. Am I
the only one fellas that misses my Taylor Swift shots
at Chiefs games.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'd rather watch her than the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Can we not show they're on the field product anymore?
Is there in a lot of spots now where it's
kind of like not quite the same as usual here?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Definitely definitely not the same. Listen, y'all can send hate
mail hate that's my way.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
We've lost something with Taylor Swift not being shown sixteen
times of football.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
They have to be honest. They have the wedding venue though,
right in the date.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
The date is June thirteenth, and it's gonna be the
thirteenth Rhode Island right there in Belichick Country. There you
go and bit mail make it really easy for the
other most famous celebrity couple in America, Jordan and Bill,
to attend.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
If I get a past one, I got to bring
back to this thing he's gone through. He's gone through,
He's gone through with these twos.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I'm sure you're on that.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You were the first person I thought of when I
thought about who would be on their invite list.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Bony, it's the Travis connection. Travis is no Travis. All right,
let's excuse my actual government name.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
By the way, do you see the story about the
swiftye who is trying to sell I swear this is
more than just Taylor Swift and random crap, but it
just popped into my head. This should be in what
the belief the swifty who is trying to sell the
contact license, that contact license, contact lenses that she was
using to watch Taylor Swift in concert at Aristour. She's
trying to sell them for ten thousand dollars. Ten thousand
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dollars because these contact lenses enabled me to see Taylor live.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
What do you see?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And if so, how long till the Hornets get good?
Please put those on? Put those on for a second
and tell me when the Hornets actually make the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Again, Mac, I'm gonna sell my contact lenses when I
go see the pandas next.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Time that there you go, there you go? All right?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Anyway, unbelieve if someone pays that price, they should be
institutionalized immediately.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Bone.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
The Pop Tart's Bowl press conference went on without Marcus Freeman.
They might have said no to the Pop Tart Bowl,
but Georgia Tech and BYU are there, and the head
coaches Brent Key and Kalani Sataki did the preseason or
pre bowl presser and they were asked us so they
also call it two of Penn States guys that they
tried to get. They were asked, b Key, I'm not
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sure quite as much. Kataki, yeah, one hundred percent. What's
his name? Solani Kataki? No, kal Kalani Sataki. I got
right the first time.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (37:06):
I did mess it up ten seconds later.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I messed it up the second time.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
All right?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Anyway, They both said, Bony, hike down over it there, sir.
They both said that strawberry is their favorite flavor of
pop Tarts.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Do you guys agree?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
No?
Speaker 7 (37:19):
No, no, that's my second favorite flavor. What is your favorite?
You got whole rankings? Oh yeah, brown sugar and cinnamon
is my my favorite one and then strawberry second.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
What do you say?
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Fit?
Speaker 9 (37:31):
This is a rare time where Bone and I agree,
brown sugar cinnamon is the best pop tart of them all.
I usually eat the swores down at the Venning machine.
That's usually my breakfast of choice. I like the chocolate fudge.
Um you got ice cream Sunday. Man, you are a
pop tarts scene love. The only thing better than a
pop tarts a toaster strudle.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You know who makes I love toaster strudles.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And by the way, I am with you guys, one
hundred percent brown sugar and cinnamon. A matter of fact,
every other tart is like three levels down to me.
That is so good. And when it comes to strutles,
I love the cinnamon strudles as well. Oh those things
are bad pop tarts good too, bad ass. You know
who makes a good homemade pop tart ist Taylor Swift? Why,
(38:15):
yeah she does. She's famous before. No, I'm telling you
that's that's something that that is that I have heard before. Anyway,
Why is there so much Tailor Swift in this? In
this random crap?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Next thing? Next thing?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You know, bone, I'll be bidding ten thousand dollars for
those contact lenses.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
I also like the I have not had the Girl
Scout flavor pop tarts yet they have the uh they
have a thin mint flavor mack of pop tart and
a caramel pop tart.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I have not had that.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I'm not advanced into pop tart tat brown sugar and Cinny.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I don't really want it.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I like the uh the confetti cupcake ones as well.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're a little bit too.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
You guys got a little bit and bloomberry obviously, you guys.
So you guys are all about the pop tarts, about
how do you rank pop tarts, englishuffins and strudles?
Speaker 10 (39:01):
Who wants to I never thinking myself when I eat
for breakfast. You know what I want? I want an
English muffin.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I go.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
I love muffin. I go muffins. I put butter on it.
Oh my god, dripping butter muffins, pop tarts to wow? Okay, no,
no muffins, toast drools pop tarts.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I probably agree with you on that. I love an
You don't like the English muffin fitty like muffins in general,
but put butter and jelly on it too. That's good,
so good, that's good.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
I'm pop tarts every Saturday and Sunday and I'm getting hungry.
Run I'm sorry. English muffins for Saturday and sung. Yeah, okay,
I can.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Get down with that. Carbs though I try.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I try to cut down because of carbs, but damn,
because I'm the type of person that gets English muffins,
cinnamon raising.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
English muffins are good too, I get.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I get English muffins Bone, and literally in two days,
I eat the whole box.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
I get the problem. I went through the health stuff
last year, so I get the uh, the multi, the
weed or multi.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Then it goes.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
What I do is I feel like gets healthier. So
then I just basically slap them in butter slap them
around him.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah that really you're really being healthy or I need
Has anybody had this sort of moment where you start
to realize how passionate your kid is getting about sports,
and you're kind of proud of them for it. Mac
Junior Bone told me that he was taking on about
four or five tar Heel fans at the lunch table
yesterday on behalf of Duke. They were arguing who's better
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Cam Boozer or Caleb Wilson, and Mack Junior came home incredulous.
He told me that Tarheel fans are not smart, to
which I said, oh, I have never never, never noticed
that from any tarhell fans at all. Never, But I
do work with Fiddy. But anyway, Bone, I'm very proud.
I'm not about to take in sides. I don't care
(40:46):
who he argues on behalf of, but that my son
is arguing tobacco, road basketball battles, and is loving college
basketball is enough to argue about it.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I'm very proud, very proud. He's also getting active on
Instagram stories. He's putting up game Day you know, he's
putting up the Duke like game Day like poster type tweets.
Was watching the Duke game by himself in this room
the other day. Almost cried. He had one for football
the other day. Like he's he's in, He's in, He's
(41:17):
in the hoops junkie. Like now he talks to me
about the NBA, and I don't really pay attention half
the time.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I get a lie, I tell you, kind of like
when Bone talks on the show or my wife tells
me about things going on around the house. But his
college basketball love is picking up now again. I don't
want you, Fitty to be mad at me or him.
It's not about him picking Duke. I know, Uncle Bones
very big, got annoyed by the college band.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
He got annoyed by kids at school, and that's how
it happened. The Toil fans drive you nice? Is that
what happened to you when you were growing up? Middle school?
I moved down here and I'm like, what is this
group of people? It turns out they annoyed the crap
out of me, and I made that decision to then
go to root for Duke sixteen years.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
Later after you chose and she stayed for a day.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
He tried that State life.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
What does Philip Rivers say, We'll pack ain't for the
soft or whatever? You know what I mean, like whatever
the quote is. That's Bone found that out in one day.
One day he realized that's the case. By the way,
State tonight against Liberty? State, can you win it? Can
you win a game convincingly? For God's sakes?
Speaker 7 (42:19):
It's actually not the easiest of games today against Weber's
a pretty good program.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I saw Towson beat Liberty. So if State cannot beat
Liberty by twenty all apologies, Bone, I'm gonna be upset tonight.
I'm just saying I might be upset you know they
beat Ashfield by only twelve Last but not this text
is cracking me up. So Mac is a swiftye that's
raising a kid to be a Duke fan.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
What a bum?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
That is pretty funny. That is pretty funny. All right,
anyway I am trying to get I tried to convince
himone to be a fan of everybody NC State, Carolina
Duke wake.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
He didn't like that idea. He didn't like that idea.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
All right, here we go, last, but not least in
the random crap segment ed or Zeron put on an
amazing performs telling stories on the Bus and with the
Boys podcast, including this gem about how he went about
trying to recruit Adrian Peterson to USC when he was
an assistant at USC.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
Let me tell you the one I didn't get Adrian Peterson.
So Adrian went down there, a little East Texas place.
He comes to USC, has a great visit, was it?
But Adrian said, Coach, I got a problem. And I
know he don't mind me saying this, and I'll say
it with utmost respect because I love him. Coach. My
dad is incarcerated in Texa.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Orcana.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Bob Stoops has already going in there to see him.
He said, Coach, you gotta go see my dad. Man,
and if you can convince my dad to come to USC,
I want to come. But there's another thing I need
to talk to you about. So we tried to get
into jail, but everybody will tried, they wouldn't let.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Them do it.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
So I said, Adrian, what is the other thing we
need to talk about? He goes, Coach, my dad will
get to watch me play in Texallcana they play Oklahoma games.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Because I'm not going to textas I'm going to Oklahoma.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
I said, Adrian, if your daddy, if they showed them
USC games over that, would you compisate? Coach I to
more if you promised me my daddy could see every
one of my games. I went back to Los Angeles.
I want to speak to the Maya. I want to
speak to every influential person that I could talk to.
And I tried to get Asrian's daddy transferred from Texall
Canada to Los Angeles jail.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Man, Man, I busted my butt. I couldn't do it, man,
too many red things. Were you ever close?
Speaker 9 (44:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
No, you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Is that the greatest distance you've ever gone to try
to get a player.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yep, does compete. That is one that is compete. That
is that is competing. That's compete, that compete, God get recruits.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Dad transferred from Jaalen, Texaar Canada to Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Shameless.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
It's not shocking that origrod himself shameless at himself a
day yesterday. There's a story he tells also about when
he was roommates with Tommy Tuberville. Mack has grid assistant
and go into KFC and they didn't have enough money
to get a lot of the want a piece of
the chicken, so they would get four and basically just
fight over the chicken.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
He said, he said he would always get they both
wanted the white meat. He said he would always get
the white meat. And he also said they would buy
a case of beer and he would get twenty two
and Tommy Tubberville would get two.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
That's a great college mindset. They didn't have enough money
for the food, but they had enough money for that
much beer.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
You got to hey, I can relate, I can relate.
Matter of fact.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Sycamore shout out to Eddie Oh and Tommy Tubberville for
knowing knowing that beer is an essential excuse.
Speaker 7 (45:36):
You know, I feel bad for Mac to drive through attendant.
They had to take Eddieo's orders back then. I'm gonna say,
I got my friend Tommy ahead, go Ti and we go.
You got to Little Biscuits and coastwaw. We gotta get
a four beach right now, we're gonna get twenty four bits.
Speaker 10 (45:47):
I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Man pour out sir.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
What he ordered.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
They had to get up there and like, can you
repeat your order again?
Speaker 7 (45:55):
I said, I went, don't miss that when we come back,
will it paye Magamo Joe
Owen's Mack and Bow on your radio if it's listen
to my freeing mat posh, Come on, posh, this in
my freem te.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Bone, what's up the fun? I can't go to work
without listening to the Mac and Bone do a lot?
All right, y'all, let's do it. Let's do it. Eight o'clockers.
Welcome boy.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We having fun here on the Mack and Bone Show.
I mean, do who doesn't have fun when you're blasting
Notre Dame? I mean, how is that not?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Some of you actually like that? My bad, I forgot
about that. While I'm having a good time doing that.
We're also talking about the Panthers and the playoff chase,
the divisional chase in the NFC South. Tied up with
four to go, two of them against the Bucks. Cannot
wait for the Panthers to get back in action this
week in New Orleans against the Saints. Need some damn
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revenge against the Aints too, There's no doubt about that.
Right now, Bone, let's talk through through some acc issues.
Right what happened with you know, Duke winning the conference championship?
Now my fault, the tiebreak. Can't blame Bone, can't blame
the Blue Devils. They just simply went out one m
sells a title. But what about the tiebreaker system? What
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about the fact that Miami got in the way they did?
What about the Notre Dame Pete bavakua led crusade against
the ACC. We could talk about all things ACC. Hell,
even improved ACC hoops. Bone maybe come up as well
with our next guest, who has covered the ACC for decades.
Y'all got to look into his NC sports net right now.
(01:36):
Great content you can find on YouTube or at the
NC sports Net on Twitter. Great coverage of sports in
the tar Heel State. He is David Glenn and he
joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. David,
Happy holidays, man, How you doing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I'm doing great. Always fun to be with y'all. Happy holidays,
break back to.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You all right, we appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, let's start first the biggest headlines and then trickle
our way down to other storylines. This Notre Dame war
on the ACC, I mean, the Dan Patrick interview was
one thing. A whole presser yesterday, with most of the
presser devoted to Pete Bavaqua's issues with the ACC and
their social media campaigning. On behalf of let me check
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my notes here an actual football member of the conference
in Miami. What do you think? Are you surprised by this?
Does Notre Dame have a point at all in any
of this is there? Do you feel like there's an agenda?
Are they getting at something here or are they just whining?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
My question for Pete Povaqua would be are you new here?
Because this was a guy, remember that was a television
sports executive for a very long time, and a really
good one, and he did not start his job at
Notre Dame until last year twenty twenty four. So his
first year.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
At Notre Dame, of course, remember they lost at home
to Northern Illinois, but they still made the college football playoffs.
His second year this happened. And meanwhile, remember I think
the backdrop to all this is that the twelve human
beings who are currently deciding what the future of the
college football playoff is going to look like are conference
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commissioners and Pete Babaqua so he knows.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Brett Yormark is a big twelve commissioner who just took
a shot at Babaqua, calling his comments egregious. You rarely
see a conference commissioner.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Call out another powerful administrator that way. I think the
starting point for Notre Dame and its fans is fair, like,
why were we ranked over Miami for.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Four straight weeks? But then even though neither of us played,
you know, all of a sudden there at the end,
and the only rankings that mattered.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Like, I understand why they're mad, But come on, man,
you know, if you want to get the full treatment
of a full member, be a full member of the ACC,
and don't wind that they went to bat for the
Miami Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
DG.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
What do you think about the future of the relationship
between Notre Dame in the ACC and where it may
go from here.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's delicate, you know, but everything is delicate in this world.
You know, we've talked in the past. I think about
how so.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Many of these TV deals, including Notre Dames which ends
in twenty twenty nine, many of them end around that
same time. Not the accs that one goes a little
bit longer.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But there's all sorts of belief that there's just going
to be a new world in college sports, college football specifically,
maybe you're right around twenty thirty something, Super conferences or
maybe two super leagues, three super leagues. Who knows how
it's going to work exactly, but I think a lot
of this jostling for position is with that kind of
stuff in mind.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Remember when Florida State and Clempson basically won their lawsuits
against the ACC, the ACC really caved. You know, there
was never a judge's decision. The ACC just kind of
caved and they got out of the granted rights doesn't
exist anymore. Remember, the exit have dropped, So if Notre
Dame wanted to leave, you know this summer or next summer,
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it's not nearly as expensive.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
As it used to be to leave the ACC.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
But I think pe Pavaqua was probably going to calm
down a little bit along those lines. And remember, you know,
the ACC is a seventy three year old league that
has made exception to its rules for one school and
only one school in seventy three years, and that's Notre Dame.
And Notre Dame did that join the ACC is that
member in most sports, but not in football, in part
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because the Big Ten laughed at Notre Dame when the
Irish wanted a similar arrangement with the Big Ten. So
I think enough people are going to whisper in Pepavaqua's
ear that, at least for now and through the end
of this decade, the ACC gives the Notre Dame folks
everything they want. They want football independence, they want, they
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want scheduling options for all their other teams. The ACC
gives them that. They want some scheduling options for football.
The ACC gives than that, and they want it at
least an avenue to.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
The college football playoffs. And yeah, it didn't work for
them this year, but it did work for them last year.
And remember hitting twenty twenty, that COVID year. If it
wasn't for the ACC, Notre Dame would have been left
hung out to dry.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Acency allowed Notre Dame to play it its football championship
game that year, and the Irish ended up in the smaller.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
College football playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So that's a lot of bending over backwards for the
fighting Irish. And even if the bakwall.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Was mad for a few days, I think cooler heads
will prevail for the short term. But your guess is
as good as mine as to what this world looks
like five years from now.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
It just came down Notre Dame will send out the
LEPRECN today to address Jim tops Oh, touchdown Jesus and
are the only two that haven't spoken yet on the matter.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Oh, we got a great text, Brett. Your mark is
a great commissioner for the ACC. Oh, he's not the
commission of the ACS. I gotta tell you, Jim Phillips.
How about you get that? How about you get that
mean and nasty?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
All right?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Anyway, we're we're talking with David Glenn. He's not meaning
nasty either. Ladies and gentlemen, the NC Sports Net. Check
it out on YouTube, check it out on Twitter. All right,
So what do you think about the way that it
went down for the ACC's pursuit of playoff college football
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That the conference champ doesn't get in that because five
loss Duke wins it all, but Miami is able to
get in the way they did. Did you think Miami
deserved to be in? And are you kind of thinking
like we are that maybe they should heed the warning
and kind of change their tiebreaker formulas so that if
you have a higher ranked team, they're guaranteed to be
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in that conference title game.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
What do you think about all this?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I agree with that that the ACC needs to revisit
the tiebreaker scenarios because we all knew. I was there
for that ACC title game between Duke and Virginia. We
all knew that an eight and five ACC champion was
not going to make it, not with Tulane having that
great record in the American Conference, not with James Madison
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being twelve and one and the champion of the Sun
Belt eight to five from any league I don't think
would make it, and not in a twelve team format,
So the ACC would have been wise. You know, Virginia
went seven and one, so Virginia earned its way to Charlotte.
The tie breakers should have reflected the College Football Playoff
rankings the way other conferences tiebreakers do, and that would have,
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of course put in Miami sixtion two Overduke sixtion two
in conference play.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
In that game, and it would have been you know.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It would have been a scenario where no matter whether
Miami won or Virginia one, the ACC would have been
pretty much guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
At least one team in the College Football Playoff. Now
they got lucky.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Miami ends up wiggling in as an at large, and
I do believe the Hurricanes deserved it. It was a
close call, right, I mean, I do feel bad for
Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They had a good resume. They won ten straight games.
You're only two losses were to Texas A and M.
In Miami, they beat Southern Kyle, they had some other
good wins. I felt bad for BYU. I mean, but
that's the nature of this stuff, right, Like, if you're
a bubble team, you become a beggar, right, whether it's Selection.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Sunday with March madness. You know, if you go eleven
and one in a major conference, you're not going to
end up being a beggar. If you go ten and
two under the current format, you know they're going to
just scrutinize the details of every win and every loss,
and you know, game control and all those other metrics.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So there's a couple teams that.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I think got left out in a tough fashion.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
But I do think the.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Hurricanes earned their way in with win. He's like the
one over Notre Dame especially.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Do you think they can do some damage in the
College Football Playoff A and M the first game last year,
ACC did not win. But how much of a chance
you get Miami to beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think they have a shot, but bone remember last
year all for the home teams won on the opening weekend, right,
and then remember all four of those same teams beat
the top four seeds the next week, which was crazy
a year ago. I don't think that part will happened.
But when I look at this week's four matchups or
next week's, I should say I think Miami has as
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good a chance as any of the visiting teams to
get a win. You know, Texas showed Mike elco of
Texas A and M is a heck of a coach
formerly of Duke, But Texas A and M is not
quite as much of just a steam roller as say
the Georgia Bulldogs can be, or Ohio State or even
Indiana now. But the Kynes I thought played the best
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football in the ACC all year long. Their losses to
SMU and at Louisville were very close games. They have
balanced offense, defense, special teams. The one question is what
is Carson Beck going to do for the Kings as
a downfield passer. It actually reminds me a little bit
of some conversations that you guys have been all over
for years now with Bryce.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Young and the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Miami does so many things well that if Carson Beck
can just scare defenses with his ability to throw the
ball downfield, everything else works better. The short passing game,
the running game, et cetera. Miami's defense is good enough
to beat anybody. Miami's talent level is.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Good enough to beat anybody. But I understand why they're
the underdog at Texas A and M. And I would
not be surprised if the four winners next next Friday
or are Alabama A and m Ole Miss and Oregon
the four hosts.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
All right, last last thing I want to ask you
is let's end on a high note for the ACC
being the champs. I think Duke winning test and forgotten
here David Duke is the champions football.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I thought you're moving on to basketball like usual. You
got to you gotta go through the Senate to get
that mentioned on the show.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I was going to go, I was gonna go hoops, Bony,
I think, and that should be good for you too.
Duke's won some big games. The ACC in general, I
think looks much improved.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
What are your early thoughts on this year's Accman, just
look at the challenge and how competitive it was. I
hate that they ended up getting routed on the second night,
but it feels like a much better ACC in basketball
this year.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I agree wholeheartedly. And I do think the ACC SEC
Challenge is kind of symbolic of where the league is.
When they went to in.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Fourteen last year, it was just a harbor gear of
things to come. Man, and and of course they end
up getting four teams in the NCAA tournament. When you're
an eighteen team league, four is a disaster. I mean
back when we were young or.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I was anyway, they get six out of their nine
members in the nc DOUBLEA Tournament in basketball, I mean
that's two thirds. That's about as good as a guess
four out of eighteen as an embarrassment. But so yeah,
this year's performance in that challenge was better.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Duke is really good, Louisville is really good.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I think that next year of North Carolina, Virginia, NC State,
maybe Clemson, maybe even Miami under the first year co
J Lucas, maybe SMU, maybe Wake Forest. Right, I mean,
that's that's half the plums in the league at least
look like they have the ability to become an NCAA
tournament team.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
That doesn't mean they'll get nine bits, but if if
even six or seven.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Of those nine turn out, well that's a massive, massive
step in the right direction for ACC basketball. And when
you look around, guys, Cameron Boozratu is not only one
of the best freshmen in the country, one of the
best players in the country. Caleb Wilson at Carolina same
one of the best players in the country. And that's
the seme at the top of the ACC. And that's
another welcome site for a league that was licking its
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wounds last year.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He is David Glad everybody check him out. Check the
North Carolina Sports Network out on Twitter at the NC
sports Net. Check it out on NC sports Net on
YouTube as well for great content covering sports in our
great state.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
DG.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You rock Man, Always good catching up with you.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Thanks for coming on right back at you guys, Always great, DG.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All right, be good. There you go.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
David Glenn joining us on the Mac and Bone Show
to talk all things accuh bone. How about that football
championship for Duke Man? You know, well, thanks for talking
about it. You know that I'm finally seeing the light.
We really should. How about that football title bab you
know what that game was. It was on Saturday. What's
today's Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Wednesday?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
I'm still fighting for some for that game, you are,
and I'm finally giving it to you. Until I went
to overtime, I didn't tell what's over time.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
For most of the game they were in control.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I I told, I gave you my spiel. Because Duke fans,
Boney's cronies were very mad at me. On Monday, I
was downplaying the title and I was told I acted
like a jerk.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Somebody said Bone should punch me. Duke fans were trying
to get Bone to be violent with me. I do
maintain that you cannot deny that Manny Dia has done
a hell of a job and that Duke has a
hell of a quarterback already for next year, like Duke football.
Like it's Duke football winning the conference, so it should
be celebrated.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Bom it will be. It will be a few They
have to go now, they have to go in the
Sun Bowl. That's where they send the champions. The Charlotte
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(15:23):
Sam Farmer, the voice of the Hornets, talks about Mac.
The Hornets are only two and a half out of
the playing spot right now. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Charlotte number twenty seven and seventeen two wins against Toronto.
Zach ridiculed me when I made them my number six
pick in the League Pass draft a couple weeks ago.
They're a great League Pass team. I love watching Charlotte, Yes,
I really enjoyed it. I just really enjoy when they
have other guys. Brandon Miller is one of those guys
(16:04):
if you catch on the right night, like this guy
might make five all NBA teams.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's weird. The weak part of their team is Lamello.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Not knowing what you're getting from him game to game,
and then even when he plays, then they like deferred
him too much and he's that's the part they can't
figure out.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
There you go, Bill Simmons, I don't even think bone.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Maybe Eric Collins, maybe our next guest, Sam Farber, maybe
the great Walker Male. I'm trying to think of people
that enjoy watching the Hornets more than Bill Simmons's boat.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Doug Buckets Branson. There you go, she handles Randall. I
love watching him when the good horn it show up.
I will say that. Other times I'm screaming at the TV.
But no, in all series, this Bill Simmons is. That's
always his message. Is this core when they put them together,
and he dog Lamello a little bit there, but this
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core when they're healthy and together. Man, it's a fun
team to watch. And he is preaching to the choir
here in Charlotte over this. We want more of those
guys together. We can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Bone And you pointed out something that I don't think
a lot of people know. I saw this on social
media the other day. Now, is it still two and
a half. I didn't realize they were that close to
the play in. Yeah, two and a half. Game is rough? Well,
we like a rough East that helps. So that's very interesting.
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So I'm sure we can bring that up with Sam Farber.
If you can get this core healthy for a while,
you know, is that playing in something that feels like
it's right there in range in sight. Let's bring him on.
He is the radio voice of the Charlotte Horns. He's
got a few days off this week. With these Leagues
Cup quarterfinals being played midweek. The Hornets are off, of course,
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from Sunday's game until Friday's game at home against the Bulls.
Sam Farber joins us here in the middle of those
days off. Sammy, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
What's happening Mack and Bone? I'm with youreciate the love
from Bill Simmons, And I can confirm I am one
of the few people who watches more Hornets than him,
but it's not by much. He's a devoted fan.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He does and you know he's a hoops junkie. Yeah,
he's so, He's flipping through channels and I can see it. Man,
Lamello's in there lobbing to my.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You could. I mean, we all know it. We all
know the Hornets.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Bone when like well, hell, when Sam starts screaming, it
has to drop a Doctor Pepper dunk.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
On us, you know, like that, like the good Hornets,
the fun Hornets can look like three point shot. To
get all those sponsors in there, Conn has hit a
lot of loose.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
We appreciated our Our sponsorship team is like kaching Kaching, Yes,
Tek Mark, Chuck Mark.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
How how needed was this break? We were talking on
the pregame show a couple of times. It went Friday, Sunday,
Friday Sunday this week and then Thursday again. So it's
almost like, uh, an all Star break within the season
right now when he don't make the NBA Cup, right.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I mean it's important because Charlotte, as you guys have
been leaning towards, has been dealing with a lot of injuries.
We came into the season, you know, hoping that we'd
survive a stretch where Grant Williams and Josh Green were
going to be down for a considerable amount of time
having undergone surgery prior to the season. But you know,
no one could foresee that. You know, Game two, after
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a spectacular star Brandon Miller has the shoulder injury, and
so you know, the team's kind of been back and
forth with who's in who's out, and that's made things difficult.
But you've opened the door for some rookies to step in,
establish themselves in the NBA, show their capabilities right from
the jump, and create a good baseline here where I'm
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in agreement. I think if this team is healthy. We've
got a decent opportunity to see what they can do.
They've won for their last seven games, so they're playing better.
But you know, having those key pieces on the floor
simultaneously is still something we have not seen in a
longer stretch so far this season.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Sam, I'm going to allow you to give me the
speech I need all right to turn my mindset around. Okay,
I'm going to allow you to give me to ins
rational speech I have been on here, Sam. I don't
know if you've heard it or not, and I feel
like you'd be disappointed in me. I may have fellas
a time or two referenced how good this lottery's going
to be, all right, and how good one of these
guys in the lottery would look next to Kahn and
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Brandon and these guys. Do you think I should shut
up about that, Sam and focus on general or that
I'm sorry you you didn't just think you actually said that?
Or do you think I should focus on what Bone said?
They're two and a half games out of the play
in the East is really weak. You said, like, what
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should I should I get those draft lottery thoughts out
of my head, Sam.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean, I just think it's way too early to
focus on the lottery from the perspective of we need
to do something to improve our standings on multiple fronts. One,
we don't know what this horned team looks like. Hole,
and these rookies just keep getting better and better. So
there is a very real possibility with three quarters of
the seas and left, Charlotte's not just fighting to climb
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over into you know, a ten spot, but there's enough
runway in front of this team that if Charlotte gets
healthy and someone in the top six has a bad
run of luck when it comes to health, things can
flip pretty dramatically. So that's one part of it. The
other part is, you know, we're seeing these draft boards
and I've heard all the things that you guys are
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hearing about how talented this group is. But I heard
it all going into last season's draft about Cooper Flag being,
you know, the greatest American prospect we've seen since Lebron
And now everyone's like, oh, it's it's kind of a
whole Hume draft. Who knows, but you know, conkainipples this
great player. I mean, this cycle happens a lot and
you're guessing on eighteen nineteen year olds, and it's a
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very educated guess. I again, I've heard what you guys
have heard that it's a very good draft class. But
someone's saying that they're willing to put their franchise through
the misery of a tank, whether that's Indian organization or
out of the organization, you know, saying that they want
that over the next several months. I think it's way premature.
Plus the third point, it doesn't work. Dallas was in
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the play in tournament last season and you know they
hit the what four in one thousand that combinations that
had their name on it, and they ended up with
the number one pick, and even then they lose their
GM over. So there's just so much that can happen
that I don't know that it's worth voting that much
attention to bone.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Sam just sent me to my room. Did you hear that?
Sam is just very disappointed in Ma's it's disappointed, Dad.
I'm not bad, I'm disappointed in you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Matt Tanner.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Let's here, Sam, may I suggest in your few days
off here go check out kjr CA Nipple highlights. That
is cod Brother class of twenty twenty seven. This is
the six ten Nipple.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
See this, This went from Mac saying can we stop?
Can we start watching more college basketball? And now Bone
is saying, let's watch more high school.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Mass I'm on a I have a Knipple newslter that
I get Right now we're focused on.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Bone has a dream that the Charlotte Canipples will be
a thing where half the Hornets will be Knipple brothers
at one point. Well, they're going to go from Duke
to the Hornets, right that's where Yeah, that's what you want.
You know, there's four more brothers than like eleven cousins.
We are going to go full to Nipple for about
a generation. Sam, what if you thought about T John
to tea return from Greensboro and how improved he's been.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Really, really strong. And this is something that we talk
about a lot as well. How you know, people get
all geared up for the draft and they look at
these prospers and say, all, you know, so and so
is going to be the second coming. Just get in
the little time and then they're drafted and everyone makes
an assumption based off their first ten games and figures
that's how it's going to be for the rest of time.
T John salon Er the league as the youngest player
in his draft class. He's still the second youngest player
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on the Hornets currently. He is younger than Conk Nipple
five pounds. You can't piece that kind of size and
athletic ability. And he had an okay shot coming into
the NBA, but he's certainly worked on it a lot.
Now he's shooting close to fifty percent from three. He's
making very sound, quick decisions. I really like the way
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that he's playing, and he's only going to get better
as he continues to gain reps in the NBA and
build on, you know, his knowledge of the game through doing.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Sam What do you what do you think about Liam
mcneely's He's the rookie that we've probably talked about the
least right because his role has, you know, has been
the lesser of the four. He's also had some health
issues there too, but I think you're starting to see
it from him. The other day he talked about, hey,
my roll off the bench, just bring some energy, change
the energy of the game. He's also seems to be shooting.
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He feels more confident, you know, he's got a shot
on him. What do you think about the strides he's making.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Very very good especially for him being the youngest player
on the team. You know, he's coming in with the
most room to grow from a physicalityality standpoint, and just
you know gaining you know, body mass and strength that
normally comes with, you know, going from nineteen to twenty,
twenty one to twenty two, so on and so forth.
You know, with him, I like the way that he
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is making decisions out there on the offensive side and defensively.
He definitely gives a lot of effort, and he's learning
how the NBA game has played different angles. He works
tremendously hard at this. I think it's a good thing
that he's getting some reps here, and I think that
he is the kind of person and personality that people
are going to gravitate towards within the fan base and
(25:34):
within the rostering. He's just a really good team player,
but his feeling is way way off in the future.
These early returns though, a very positive sign. If you
can establish that you can do something even as simple
as catch and shoot at an NBA level this early,
it gives you a lot of confidence and things to
build on. Whether that's going to happen consistently with the
hornets with the swarm for the rest of this season.
(25:55):
We don't know, but this is the guy who's going
to be a really hard work is going to get
the most out of this year in his NBA career.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
All right, Sam, we appreciate you, brother. People are now
comparing the Canipples to the Plumblies. People are now requesting
a bone a Canipple power song, off your plumbly power?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Can you do a Canipple song?
Speaker 7 (26:15):
And you aren't around for plumbly power? My theme song
I had for many years. It's plumbly power that the
plump lease.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
This whole. All of your guys listeners are like so
dedicated I guess to having one family dominate the roster.
It's the plumb Leys, the Ball family, and now we
want all Canipples. They're in high school. They've given them
some time. But I agree that there's a lot of
talent there. Clearly the cainnippal U basketball power is extended
beyond time. But he's off to a great start. And
(26:47):
we've heard great things about the younger ones.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Those dastardly Zellers trying to get involved in Sultan Oh,
they were one.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
They were they were one. They had Luke Zellar, didn't they?
They had three, didn't they? You're right, all the hoops.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Fans all over the place, all right, all right, well, hey,
we appreciate you joining us. I know it's a break
for you, for them, for the team right now. But
Friday's a good night to get out to the hive,
right Sammy.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Absolutely got great tickets still available for that one. Friday
nights are always electric at Spectrum Center. Bulls come to town.
It's been a good matchup for the Hornets there. The
Bulls speaking, they're they're kind of reeling right now with
a few injuries of their own, and hopefully, knock on wood,
Charlotte gets healthy. When we've seen LaMelo ball Brandon Miller
on the floor simultaneously, this Horns team has a winning record,
(27:33):
so you know, we've seen some breadcrumbs here of what
the future might hold for Charlotte. Hopefully that future becomes
now starting on Friday.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Sammy whisper to me, no one's going to hear it.
Just whisper to me. Is Lamello playing on Friday?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What do you know? A good question? I do not know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But we have a practice today so I can possibly
whisper to you tomorrow what we're seeing. But so far
it you know, they get a little bit of a break,
just as we get a little bit of a break.
But we'll see what happens at practice today and keep
our fingers crossed for good news.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
All right, sounds good? All right, sam We appreciate you, man, big.
Watch that Canipple film, all right, watch that stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I'm gonna watch that. The you know, the the belly
aching from Babakua and all the Notre Dame people.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh you're a usc man. You got no love for
Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I just just like pick a better target, like you
lost to Miami and you don't have as good a record.
Just either a win the games or b pick a
better target.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Agree, Agree, all right, Sammy, We appreciate you man.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Take care, guys.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
There he is, sunshine, Sammy telling me Boney to not
be not be glancing at draft prospects, all right, and
telling you to not glance on the Canipple film. It's
power somebody big and they're white. They're the Caniples. Somebody
somebody said, Canipple film sounds like something dirty.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Back, sounds like you're watching something scrambled back in the
mid nineties.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Not that that was me trying to get back. No,
not at all. That never happened in the bone zone.
Not watching the shan a tweet movie.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
H somebody says, what kind of who names their kid Cager?
That would be uh the CON's parents. Cag's parents would
be lovely Sherry Canipple and her husband.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What are the names? Don't they all kind of uh
do they all have They all.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Have k names right, yeah, but I don't know the
other ones yet. I'm only focused on Cagre and Con
right now, Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You're not that crazy that you're going down to like
the youngest one that's like eleven or something.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
There's probably gotta be a Kyle, a Corny Canipple, probably
a Chris.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Hey the k it's k r n. Oh my god,
I'm very good. We will dig that up for you.
Just show goes on the full Canipple son's names. We
will dig that up. It's some Cager. Oh there you
got it. Okay, here they are.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
It's Con Cagr Kinston Cash and kid Cash is a
k Okay, So it's okay, bro, So say about loud
Cagr Canipple, Kinston Canipple, Cash Canipple, and Kid Cannipple bro
kid can Nipple. It has to be a baller. I
love that name, short for kidman.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Okay, okay, oh my god, I sense a pattern. That's
the way my my wife's family always named their dogs
b names that the Canimple said, we will just do
that with our own children.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
I never knew.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I've never known anybody do that with actual human children.
That's interesting.
Speaker 10 (30:20):
And my family have three a's and three js.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
We is that a rule? You gotta be a's or js.
Speaker 9 (30:25):
Whenever they we had my when they had my youngest sister, yeah,
they had to give her an a name to even
out the.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Okay, interesting parents do that, Okay, all right?
Speaker 7 (30:35):
And the uncles are Clay and Cole. Okays, yes, oh
my god. So this goes back generations.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's the uncles, the flying Nipples there.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
What's his dad's name, Conrad with a K, it just
says Canipples father.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I'm trying to figure that. I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I can't figure that out. It's got to be a K, right,
has to be little Kramer Canipple Oh he's con senior.
Oh that's right, Yeah, he's consent. That's twice. His middle
Cod's middle middle name is just the two right, the
New World too. This is h he's got the New
World too? Has his middle name?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Really?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's his middle name?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Cod two canipple? Yeah, damn so bad as that is, man,
I love this family. They need a reality show, hell
with the Kardashians.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Give me the damn ca nipples. That also sounded weird
done the.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
First time he said that.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
I want to point out a newsy, a little bit
of a newsy note before to go to break here.
The Big Twelve has adopted the ACC's transparency rule when
it comes to football replays going forward.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Everybody should, man, everybody should do this right, just a
no brain or the SEC. I'm sure none want to
do that. Those damn uh you know, cheating.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
The other noddle.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
They said, all right, what we have here? And the
guy said, all right, Notre Dame's gonna be pissed off here.
How pissed will they be? He said, all right, Notre
Dame's pissed off? Everyone good? Everyone good?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Everyone? A great Dame's pissed off? All right, Jack, go.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
When we come back on the Mac and Bone Show,
ran dm crap. We have a question about pop tarts.
Matc Junior has a take from from the from his
lunch table at school and coach oh coach or drawn
as an amazing recruiting story. Sports Radio ninety two seven
w FNZ Random crap, random crap. Mac and Boone talk,
(32:22):
random crap, random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk
random crap, random, random crap, random crap, random crapuck.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
Crap, Oh crap.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We stink like a baby's blowout infested diaper.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Crap that is random.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
It's the Queen City's favorite morning tandem, Mac and Bone.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Random crap, Mac and Bone.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's time let's have some fun. Let's do a little
bit of random crap. Coming up into nine o'clock hour,
the much anticipatory union of Willie p and Fitty Fitty
with a comment last week it might have been a
little overboard, a little over zealous about Willie and you
know his personal trainer, and you know Willy's wife, and anyway,
(33:16):
it's the P man who's been unhappy with Fitty ever since.
That reunion occurs here at the top of the hour,
we also have to ask the question, is it time
where we turn the tide and give David Tepper some
credit for the Panthers success.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I like the topic.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
We get into that one as well, So that's coming
up at the nine o'clock hour. But right now, Bone,
let's do some random crap, shall we, And let's crap.
Let's let's sing it, Bone, sing it. Let's start it
off here with ladies and gentlemen. Let's start it off
with the story I read from Front Office Sports yesterday
(33:52):
Bone about Taylor Swift. I don't know if anybody else
has noticed this, but I have noticed all season and
it's bothered me that Taylor Swift is not shown near
as much as last season at these football games. Now
I know she hadn't been gone to the road games
because of course I care way too much about this,
they showed her only one time in the game the
other night, Bonie, Front Office Sports actually rode about I
(34:14):
was waiting for some reporter to give me to scoop
on this. She has been strategically placing herself at different
parts of the suite so that she doesn't appear on camera.
Also TV Networks also, according to Front Office Sports, have
decided to ease.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Up on the showing of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Plus, let's face that the Chiefs are taking l's, Travis
Kelsey's dropping football's that turned into interceptions Boat, so they're
not going to show her when that happens. Am I
the only one fellas that misses my Taylor Swift shots
at Chiefs games.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'd rather watch her than the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Can we not show they're on the field product anymore?
Is there in a lot of spots now where it's
kind of like not quite the same as usual here?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Definitely definitely not the same. Listen, y'all can send hate
mail hate that's my way.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
We've lost something with Taylor Swift not being shown sixteen
times of football.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
They have to be honest. They have the wedding venue though,
right in the date.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
The date is June thirteenth, and it's gonna be the
thirteenth Rhode Island right there in Belichick Country. There you
go and bit mail make it really easy for the
other most famous celebrity couple in America, Jordan and Bill,
to attend.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
If I get a past one, I got to bring
back to this thing he's gone through. He's gone through,
He's gone through with these twos.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I'm sure you're on that.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You were the first person I thought of when I
thought about who would be on their invite list.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Bony, it's the Travis connection. Travis is no Travis. All right,
let's excuse my actual government name.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
By the way, do you see the story about the
swiftye who is trying to sell I swear this is
more than just Taylor Swift and random crap, but it
just popped into my head. This should be in what
the belief the swifty who is trying to sell the
contact license, that contact license, contact lenses that she was
using to watch Taylor Swift in concert at Aristour. She's
trying to sell them for ten thousand dollars. Ten thousand
(36:06):
dollars because these contact lenses enabled me to see Taylor live.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
What do you see?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And if so, how long till the Hornets get good?
Please put those on? Put those on for a second
and tell me when the Hornets actually make the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Again, Mac, I'm gonna sell my contact lenses when I
go see the pandas next.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Time that there you go, there you go? All right?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Anyway, unbelieve if someone pays that price, they should be
institutionalized immediately.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Bone.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
The Pop Tart's Bowl press conference went on without Marcus Freeman.
They might have said no to the Pop Tart Bowl,
but Georgia Tech and BYU are there, and the head
coaches Brent Key and Kalani Sataki did the preseason or
pre bowl presser and they were asked us so they
also call it two of Penn States guys that they
tried to get. They were asked, b Key, I'm not
(36:55):
sure quite as much. Kataki, yeah, one hundred percent. What's
his name? Solani Kataki? No, kal Kalani Sataki. I got
right the first time.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (37:06):
I did mess it up ten seconds later.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I messed it up the second time.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
All right?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Anyway, They both said, Bony, hike down over it there, sir.
They both said that strawberry is their favorite flavor of
pop Tarts.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Do you guys agree?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
No?
Speaker 7 (37:19):
No, no, that's my second favorite flavor. What is your favorite?
You got whole rankings? Oh yeah, brown sugar and cinnamon
is my my favorite one and then strawberry second.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
What do you say?
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Fit?
Speaker 9 (37:31):
This is a rare time where Bone and I agree,
brown sugar cinnamon is the best pop tart of them all.
I usually eat the swores down at the Venning machine.
That's usually my breakfast of choice. I like the chocolate fudge.
Um you got ice cream Sunday. Man, you are a
pop tarts scene love. The only thing better than a
pop tarts a toaster strudle.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You know who makes I love toaster strudles.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And by the way, I am with you guys, one
hundred percent brown sugar and cinnamon. A matter of fact,
every other tart is like three levels down to me.
That is so good. And when it comes to strutles,
I love the cinnamon strudles as well. Oh those things
are bad pop tarts good too, bad ass. You know
who makes a good homemade pop tart ist Taylor Swift? Why,
(38:15):
yeah she does. She's famous before. No, I'm telling you
that's that's something that that is that I have heard before. Anyway,
Why is there so much Tailor Swift in this? In
this random crap?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Next thing? Next thing?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You know, bone, I'll be bidding ten thousand dollars for
those contact lenses.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
I also like the I have not had the Girl
Scout flavor pop tarts yet they have the uh they
have a thin mint flavor mack of pop tart and
a caramel pop tart.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I have not had that.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I'm not advanced into pop tart tat brown sugar and Cinny.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I don't really want it.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I like the uh the confetti cupcake ones as well.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're a little bit too.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
You guys got a little bit and bloomberry obviously, you guys.
So you guys are all about the pop tarts, about
how do you rank pop tarts, englishuffins and strudles?
Speaker 10 (39:01):
Who wants to I never thinking myself when I eat
for breakfast. You know what I want? I want an
English muffin.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I go.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
I love muffin. I go muffins. I put butter on it.
Oh my god, dripping butter muffins, pop tarts to wow? Okay, no,
no muffins, toast drools pop tarts.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I probably agree with you on that. I love an
You don't like the English muffin fitty like muffins in general,
but put butter and jelly on it too. That's good,
so good, that's good.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
I'm pop tarts every Saturday and Sunday and I'm getting hungry.
Run I'm sorry. English muffins for Saturday and sung. Yeah, okay,
I can.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Get down with that. Carbs though I try.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I try to cut down because of carbs, but damn,
because I'm the type of person that gets English muffins,
cinnamon raising.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
English muffins are good too, I get.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I get English muffins Bone, and literally in two days,
I eat the whole box.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
I get the problem. I went through the health stuff
last year, so I get the uh, the multi, the
weed or multi.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Then it goes.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
What I do is I feel like gets healthier. So
then I just basically slap them in butter slap them
around him.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah that really you're really being healthy or I need
Has anybody had this sort of moment where you start
to realize how passionate your kid is getting about sports,
and you're kind of proud of them for it. Mac
Junior Bone told me that he was taking on about
four or five tar Heel fans at the lunch table
yesterday on behalf of Duke. They were arguing who's better
(40:26):
Cam Boozer or Caleb Wilson, and Mack Junior came home incredulous.
He told me that Tarheel fans are not smart, to
which I said, oh, I have never never, never noticed
that from any tarhell fans at all. Never, But I
do work with Fiddy. But anyway, Bone, I'm very proud.
I'm not about to take in sides. I don't care
(40:46):
who he argues on behalf of, but that my son
is arguing tobacco, road basketball battles, and is loving college
basketball is enough to argue about it.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I'm very proud, very proud. He's also getting active on
Instagram stories. He's putting up game Day you know, he's
putting up the Duke like game Day like poster type tweets.
Was watching the Duke game by himself in this room
the other day. Almost cried. He had one for football
the other day. Like he's he's in, He's in, He's
(41:17):
in the hoops junkie. Like now he talks to me
about the NBA, and I don't really pay attention half
the time.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I get a lie, I tell you, kind of like
when Bone talks on the show or my wife tells
me about things going on around the house. But his
college basketball love is picking up now again. I don't
want you, Fitty to be mad at me or him.
It's not about him picking Duke. I know, Uncle Bones
very big, got annoyed by the college band.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
He got annoyed by kids at school, and that's how
it happened. The Toil fans drive you nice? Is that
what happened to you when you were growing up? Middle school?
I moved down here and I'm like, what is this
group of people? It turns out they annoyed the crap
out of me, and I made that decision to then
go to root for Duke sixteen years.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
Later after you chose and she stayed for a day.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
He tried that State life.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
What does Philip Rivers say, We'll pack ain't for the
soft or whatever? You know what I mean, like whatever
the quote is. That's Bone found that out in one day.
One day he realized that's the case. By the way,
State tonight against Liberty? State, can you win it? Can
you win a game convincingly? For God's sakes?
Speaker 7 (42:19):
It's actually not the easiest of games today against Weber's
a pretty good program.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I saw Towson beat Liberty. So if State cannot beat
Liberty by twenty all apologies, Bone, I'm gonna be upset tonight.
I'm just saying I might be upset you know they
beat Ashfield by only twelve Last but not this text
is cracking me up. So Mac is a swiftye that's
raising a kid to be a Duke fan.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
What a bum?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
That is pretty funny. That is pretty funny. All right,
anyway I am trying to get I tried to convince
himone to be a fan of everybody NC State, Carolina
Duke wake.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
He didn't like that idea. He didn't like that idea.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
All right, here we go, last, but not least in
the random crap segment ed or Zeron put on an
amazing performs telling stories on the Bus and with the
Boys podcast, including this gem about how he went about
trying to recruit Adrian Peterson to USC when he was
an assistant at USC.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
Let me tell you the one I didn't get Adrian Peterson.
So Adrian went down there, a little East Texas place.
He comes to USC, has a great visit, was it?
But Adrian said, Coach, I got a problem. And I
know he don't mind me saying this, and I'll say
it with utmost respect because I love him. Coach. My
dad is incarcerated in Texa.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Orcana.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Bob Stoops has already going in there to see him.
He said, Coach, you gotta go see my dad. Man,
and if you can convince my dad to come to USC,
I want to come. But there's another thing I need
to talk to you about. So we tried to get
into jail, but everybody will tried, they wouldn't let.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Them do it.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
So I said, Adrian, what is the other thing we
need to talk about? He goes, Coach, my dad will
get to watch me play in Texallcana they play Oklahoma games.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Because I'm not going to textas I'm going to Oklahoma.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
I said, Adrian, if your daddy, if they showed them
USC games over that, would you compisate? Coach I to
more if you promised me my daddy could see every
one of my games. I went back to Los Angeles.
I want to speak to the Maya. I want to
speak to every influential person that I could talk to.
And I tried to get Asrian's daddy transferred from Texall
Canada to Los Angeles jail.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Man, Man, I busted my butt. I couldn't do it, man,
too many red things. Were you ever close?
Speaker 9 (44:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
No, you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Is that the greatest distance you've ever gone to try
to get a player.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yep, does compete. That is one that is compete. That
is that is competing. That's compete, that compete, God get recruits.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Dad transferred from Jaalen, Texaar Canada to Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Shameless.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
It's not shocking that origrod himself shameless at himself a
day yesterday. There's a story he tells also about when
he was roommates with Tommy Tuberville. Mack has grid assistant
and go into KFC and they didn't have enough money
to get a lot of the want a piece of
the chicken, so they would get four and basically just
fight over the chicken.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
He said, he said he would always get they both
wanted the white meat. He said he would always get
the white meat. And he also said they would buy
a case of beer and he would get twenty two
and Tommy Tubberville would get two.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
That's a great college mindset. They didn't have enough money
for the food, but they had enough money for that
much beer.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
You got to hey, I can relate, I can relate.
Matter of fact.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Sycamore shout out to Eddie Oh and Tommy Tubberville for
knowing knowing that beer is an essential excuse.
Speaker 7 (45:36):
You know, I feel bad for Mac to drive through attendant.
They had to take Eddieo's orders back then. I'm gonna say,
I got my friend Tommy ahead, go Ti and we go.
You got to Little Biscuits and coastwaw. We gotta get
a four beach right now, we're gonna get twenty four bits.
Speaker 10 (45:47):
I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Man pour out sir.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
What he ordered.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
They had to get up there and like, can you
repeat your order again?
Speaker 7 (45:55):
I said, I went, don't miss that when we come back,
will it paye Magamo Joe
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The Brothers Ortiz is the story of two brothers–both successful, but in very different ways. Gabe Ortiz becomes a third-highest ranking officer in all of Texas while his younger brother Larry climbs the ranks in Puro Tango Blast, a notorious Texas Prison gang. Gabe doesn’t know all the details of his brother’s nefarious dealings, and he’s made a point not to ask, to protect their relationship. But when Larry is murdered during a home invasion in a rented beach house, Gabe has no choice but to look into what happened that night. To solve Larry’s murder, Gabe, and the whole Ortiz family, must ask each other tough questions.