August 12, 2025 • 42 mins
In the third hour of the show, Mac and Bone chat with JJ Jansen about the special teams play from the other night, talk to Derrick Brown about his return to the field this year and get angry about a couple of new lists that have really low expectations for the Panthers this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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More Radio ninety two seven WFNZ Mack and Bone with
you from the Homer hideaway Bone.
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How about we trot that one out? How about we
test that name.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We are in a bunker here in the bottles of
Bank of America Stadium, Mack and Bone with you. We
got more great camp interviews. Derek Brown coming up at
eight twenty five. He was back at practice yesterday. We
can have it in the run game. That's a beautiful thing.
Nine o'clock hour. A couple of defensive guys, Trayvon Merrick
and Trevin Wallace. Those boys will join us in the
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final hour. Unfortunately, Bone, there's a conversation at eight forty
five about ESPN and Bleacher Report dissing the Panthers. This
is this is bothering me. I thought we were done
with this kind of crappy ranking junk. ESPN one was absurd, blasphemy.
But anyway, let's focus on better things right now, like
(01:19):
a conversation with America's long snapper. JJ Jansen is in
the house. Look at Fitty kissing up to him this
week with the JJ jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
JJ?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Did he buy that jersey or did he borrow one
of yours?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, we got three of them.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Oh my gosh, that's another buck seventy four. That's awesome, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'll break the ice here. He wants you to sign
it so you can put it in his man cave.
But he's also standing very close to you right now.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
He's hovering sign.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Let me tell you something about your street crad with
the with the youngsters, JJ. You might not realize. You
might think just the old man. The youngsters don't dig
JJ Jansen. Yesterday last week I went home with two
things that my son, my sixe year old son aimed
ak little Mac had never seen. It was the JJ
Janssen jersey and the shoes that I shamelessly got Morgan
(02:13):
to give me. He looked at the shoes and said,
it was a lame. Are you gonna wear those other
the panther game? Let's not wear them, damn near every
day is what I'm gonna do. He said, I don't,
although I'm not working.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I just checked. I just checked.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He said, how those are lame?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Then he said, oh my god, is that your JJ
Jansen jersey.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Love it. That's fantastic. He love that collector's item.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Have you thought what you're gonna do with all the
royalty money that's coming in now?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yes, I'm gonna probably get a uh what's our sponsorship
this hour? Universal Windows? I'll try to buy a window.
One window.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I got one window, get one?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I got all right, I don't have I don't have
that kind of money from all the royalties here Jay.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The text line is repeatedly asking already to talk about
did you talk the referee out of the call the
other day? Because that was that was mid season JJ performance.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
If that's so, yeah, you got to start with mid
season formert absolutely so so on that particular play. One
of the advantages we get is we've got a really
good coaching staff Tracy Smith, Darren Bates.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
You know, they're on top of it.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
And so what I heard coming back from the sideline,
I didn't know who the call was on yet, but
I heard them yell that's the gunner. So forty two
in our you know, that was always Sam Franklin. So
I'm still learning everyone's numbers and who everyone is. But
I heard them, I know that's the gunner, So I
walked out there to explain the guy you saw was
the gunner. So how that play kind of works out
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just a little inside football is the end guys on
the line of scrimmage. The referees are looking to see
if anyone from the middle of the field runs down.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, well forty two.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Our gunner was coming from the opposite side, running across
the field, so he ended up in the middle of
the field, and forty two does it is not a
traditional corner number. Usually those guys are twenty one, twenty seven.
So he sees something that looks a little bit like
a linebacker number. And they're in preseason form, so they're
throwing the flag. The only reason they picked it up
is you begin to say, hey, that's the gunner. Did
(04:14):
you have the right number? Yes, forty two, I know
it is forty two. Where did he line up? And
they start to all work together. I think they probably
also used replay assist. They don't know to even look
at replay assist if not given, like a queue of hey,
you might have the wrong guy, or if you do,
he's allowed to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
If it was a combination a JJ assist and replay Assistan.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
There's JJ assist replaces.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
But again, at the end of the day, like I'm running,
I'm coming back down the field off of our bench,
Tracy and Darren.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh, Darren Bates was out there.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Darren Bates was like on the field. Yeah, So like
those guys were on top of it. They know, they
know where they've placed everybody, especially in preseason, I'm not
I'm not always sure who's out there with me, right
because there there's very active subs.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You sort of line up.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I know Sam's back there, and that's about it, like
in terms of in terms of preseason football. So I
wasn't entirely sure at the jump what had happened, But
coming off the sideline, they got a good information and
then you're just hoping to get the referees attention and
encouraging them to make the right call.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
They want to get the call right, definitely, they just
got to help out.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, the counselor st JJ one for one already, man,
I think Trevia and Thomas.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yes, yes, absolutely, Sorry, I should have said that, looking back,
he's on his preseason roster.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Baby, I'm on a Friday night though I was I
needed the roster with me Friday night. But I feel
like for this week, I feel like I might actually
the dudes off.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't think JJ DIDW who that was?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I do, no, No, I do appreciate that. I'm I'm
certainly learning where everybody fits on the wrong on the field.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And you said you don't know who's going to be
the coverage unit, went, you know what I mean? These
guys are battling for those covers.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They're battling for spots.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
And the way preseason works is you've got the way
they end up on special teams is sort of how
they're falling right now, and off and defense through one week.
So if you're on the ones on offense and defense,
you're probably on the ones in special teams because the
goal is play your plays on offense, defense, special.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Teams, and then get out.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
So even the even the depth chart right now on
special teams isn't necessarily what the final depth chart will
be because they are trying to manage reps.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
We're trying to get everyone their reps.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
But not have anyone play the whole game, and especially
to show to give the opportunities for the twos and
threes to get plenty of run so they can get
tape out there and then the coaches can see what
they can do in games.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
How much of an adjustment is this right now for
special teams because there is so many new bodies out
there of the guys that might be playing their regularly.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I think that's every single year, certainly. We've had so
many We've talked about this before. We've had so many
guys who've been on the Special Teams unit for a while.
You know, Sam Franklin, we talked about you know, Felipe
Franks was a core guy for US last year. Jordan Matthews,
Lannie Johnson. Those guys were sort of like our core
guys last year. Now none of them are currently here,
(07:02):
so you're sort of building up a new cores every
single year. I think one of the advantages we got
is the rosters getting deeper, and Dan Morgan and Brandton
and Dave Canalis are putting together this roster. What you
end up getting is a lot better quality players coming
down to Special teams because as the roster gets deeper
guys that are starting on offense and defense are also
(07:23):
now trickling into special teams and that's what we want.
And so what you're really trying to do on a
special teams element is find the guys like gunners, returners
that have skills, and then you're just trying to raise
up a culture of we're attacking and hitting, which for
especially the defensive guys, it's right up their alley, but
you're just gonna have to encourage them, hey, this is
a way to make a living in the NFL, because
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maybe they've been trying to break in on all own.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Some of the struggles the other day, like there was
a sixteen yard punt return of thirty yard punt return.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The penalties, I think are.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Penalties come up and come up a lot in the preseason. Again,
guys are playing in positions in games they've never been in.
So you have to remember, once you get into the
twos and threes on special teams, most of those guys
on the field have never played special teams before. So
they know how to run and hit, they just don't
know where everything where they're spacing is on the field,
(08:14):
and inevitably you revert back to the last game you played.
So especially the rookies, they're reverting back to college and
they've never nothing on special teams. Looks like what they
did in college. The punt play looks totally different. Certainly
kickoff looks different now. The big jump is, hey, from
week one to week two, when they kind of go
back into muscle memory, they should be going back to
(08:36):
week one and learning, Hey, i'm covering a punt, I
need to have my right leverage. I'm blocking that returns
going this way. I can't hold in this particular direction.
And that's where you should see a lot of improvement
going from week one to week two.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Texter says, tell JJ, thank you. He signed my kids
hat cool. At the game Friday, however, the kid asked
the dad, how old is that guy?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He looks young?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
That was probably he doesn't even look old enough to
play in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
He's nineteen.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
This is legitimate, dad, he's older than you. Could you
play in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I don't know that's true. That's pretty that's pretty tough.
I don't know how old is the kid. I want
to find out.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I don't know about that still a young man.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I want to know if you think, are you comfortable
Bone and I have been saying something about you repeating
something that we believe to be facts as advocates for
the America's Long Snap.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
He's a friend. Are you comfortable? Yeah? Can we even
claim that we.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Don't know you guys are friends?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Good?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah? Righte that down. Are you comfortable with just becauesn't
one seventy four? He fits pumped?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So are you comfortable with us saying that in your career,
which is a little lengthy, that you have only had
one bad long snap? Or do you think we're overdoing
it with that statement, because that's what.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We were doing it, meaning that I've had fewer than.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
One, no more like is that all I've had? The
urban town is sure urban.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
That's because Joe Person always wrote about that one snap
in New York.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So I.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Twenty ten, I remember, I remember very vividly, so I.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yes, we we've had one rep where we just couldn't
get the ball off. But I've had a lot of
poor snaps where Johnny or Mike Pollardi like bailed me out,
stuff where I was sick to my stomach.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You guys never saw it or weren't paying it like.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Weren't you didn't notice it because they did so good.
So like I say this all the time to like
young long snappers, like you're gonna make mistakes. Your goal
is that your mistakes are obviously rare, but also in
a way that someone can cover for you. And I
would say in every season, there's probably a couple of
balls like I'm I'm almost embarrassed that that happened, but
(10:52):
I'd like to think my standards pretty high. But at
the end of the day, like we're a team and
we're a group of guys together, and I'm trying to
make it as easy on Sam this year as possible,
but inevitably he'll probably bail me out of one or
two and the kicker will make it and you guys
won't even notice.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And we'll just happen.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
We'll just move right along.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So we're going with it, though there's all I guess
there's been one that has been.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
If that was that one was a disaster, that ball
went That ball went six yards on a punt, So
for those that don't know, a punt snap's supposed to
go fourteen in the air. It rolled to six and
died got stuck in the ground it was. That was it.
That was a complete and utter disaster. So uh yeah,
year that wasn't bad. That was just embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That whole year twenty ten was a mess though.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, we clearly it's like the start of Major League
where it's like the season start. However, the first pitch
of the game goes, that's how the season goes.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I probably got us off onto a bad start there.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The thing typed in JJ Jansen bad snap on Google,
and AI think comes up that you're known for only
having one bad snap since twenty ten.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Say that's because again that was so. That was Joe
Person's first game on Panthers Beat, so he remembers that
very clearly. I was like if he if Joe had
never said that, no one would even know that I've
ever messed up.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well, what we did is we've heard him say that,
and then we keep term that week good, so that
every year goes by and we say, my man still
only had one.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yeah that's right, you know. No, No, Joe's been a
good buddy and a good friend. I always tease him
about that. I said, man, you always let everyone know
that I had that one ball in New York. But
it again. It was a disaster. It actually went down.
Jason Baker was the punter. Jason had a run up.
The ball barely got pass the personal protector. He ran
up and fell on it and it was listed as
a fumble for Jason Baker.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Oh no, you got him lunch, dinner or something.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He didn't have any incentives based on balls that rolled
back to him.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh man, so we saw you miked up on Friday night?
Did you do you know? Like what aired you singing
Michael Jackson and stuff like like, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
My gosh, I did. I did not hear about this,
so they told me, hey, you're gonna be miked up.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
So in my mind I was getting like one of
the like NFL films or like when the Panthers release
the footage like after the fact. Uh No, I did
not know that I was going to be on the
live broadcast. That would sort of like uh. I got
back and I had text messages from some of the
kids on our baseball team, coach JJ, I saw you
on the broadcast. It's like sure I was playing because no,
(13:19):
we heard you. It's like I have what are you
talking about? Only came to find out that how did
I was I singing?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Were you singing of Michael Jackson's like I was playing well,
y'all only.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
During warm up? Sure?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, there was another one. What was the other one?
We played these clips? By the way, Oh did you really?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I still haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
We're a hard hitting football show on a Monday. After
the game, we're playing clips with a long snapper singing, Oh
my gosh, we would never do that in regular season.
The other one was, oh you finding out like you
said that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
The yeah, so so Sam Martin got mad at me.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I had told him at the beginning of the game
that I was miked up. You know, guys usually like, hey,
just let you know. It's a courtesy. But then we
started talking like, oh my gosh, you did tell me
that you were on the broadcast? I said, I didn't know.
So we were like we found the camera, because usually
what happens is like if we're in pregame, out there,
you'll see some random camera that's never pointed at you,
like just following you wherever you are.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And I couldn't find.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
It at the beginning of the game, so I thought, okay,
there's they're not following me, And then all of a
sudden the fourth quarter, there was a camera like just
staring us down. So I think it was me and
Sam like are you are you the guy that's following
me around?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And uh no, they were very cool with that.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
All right, nice.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm trying to find if your if your bad snap
is on YouTube?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh can we just stop with this?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
God?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I described it. I described it perfectly well.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
If they'd find a JJ Jansen forty second highlight reel
though from twenty eleven. There you go, and someone did
all your wrong snaps against the Bears in two thousand
and one. Put that together yourself and yeah, probably trying
to learn YouTube?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
How does YouTube work?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So so today I just gotta wrap this up here
in a second camera time flies when you're talking to
JJ Man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You're not the only one that thinks that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What about your wife?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Does she still feel like that or does she get
a little like because my wife rolls her eyes when
I start to go into like yux mode radio yux
mode at the house, She's like.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Oh, you're acting like you're on she rolls around.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Does your wife still appreciate all your conversation or has
she kind of heard a lot of it?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Oh yeah, all the stuff that I'm workshopping for you guys.
I start with her, Hey, how does this sound? If
I tried this? It was actually really funny. I was
so nervous when I proposed to my wife we are
you're in Green Bay that I was talking her ear
off and she said, twenty minutes before I was planning
to propose, can you please stop asking me any questions today?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
That was That was the last thing she said. I
was like, and I literally responded, are you sure?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Are you sure?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You don't want me to say any more questions? Because
I knew what was coming.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, I still proposed. I still proposed. Yes, we've been
married post no, no, no, we've It was Thanksgiving Day
in Green Bay, Wisconsin. S some say you made the
Lambeau leap that day.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
That was okay, Yeah, she gets a little worn out
from time to time, so uh.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
She'll just walk away. I have had enough.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I feel like you could be like you could be
Chris Rocks One, like the funniest person in the world,
And I feel like the wife would be like, Okay,
enough of this.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
You are with us. You know you're I'm funnier than you.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I just compare us both to Chris Rock. I don't
mind it.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
In fact, I uh redid a Chris Rock joke for
her last night, So I guess that's very very timely.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
People keep asking, uh, Smitty called you a holder during
the game the other day.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Did you hear about this?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I heard about it. Uh, I don't know. I don't know.
What do you want me to what do you want
me to say?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I was very uncomfortable because you are too panther legends,
I mean, two of the elite players that have ever
played here, and I don't want any beef. So I
just that's that's I'd like these Ring of Honor guys
have to get along, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I don't make waves.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Actually, actually, Ryan Fitzgerald, our kicker, said will you ever
get up in the Ring of Honor? Like how many
games you have to play? It was like, I'm never
going up there? Like are you sure? I was like,
I was like, Hall of Famer, hall of Famer, first
round pick, future Hall of Famer, future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
He goes, they could probably put you up there. I
was like, I'm probably over with the PSL owners.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's really trying to get on your good side.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
He's really Yeah, he's buttering.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I saw you guys making he was walking behind the
cart that you were rid choking in yesterday. Oh yeah,
so rookie guys right by me and he was walking
by so.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
So rookies aren't allowed on the golf cart. So it
feels sort of feels sort of bad. But we have
to leave our fourth guy to just walk all the
way back.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, he was walking with me, and that's not so we.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Get like a security escort on the golf cart, and
our security always lets us in the building any of
these key cards.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
He always lets us in the building.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
We've had two or three of these rain days where
it is absolutely dumping and Ryan's stuck outside with no
key card.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
There's no security.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
That's just getting So that's that's how rookies have to
get doctrine.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Because he's a rookie, because he only hit two to
five yesterday.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You know what, at some point we're gonna have to
put up wide posts so everyone understands that our kickers
are kicking quite well during camp, but the skinny posts
are messing everybody up.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So archists must be so glad that isn't it could
be closed now from here on out, like after to day.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh, yes, so that's probably good.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Should I get like an update, I'll tell everybody how
many they made on the skinny.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Post were persons on that group chat, because both.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Are, so I'll be very good.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
So so I said that we we have been so
passively aggressive attacked by our by our media members that
for maybe the last practice day, we'll just turn him
sideways and they'll just be a single post in the
middle of the field that they.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Got last day. Just make it really hard on him.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
All right, we will all right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
By the way, the full the full twenty ten game
is on YouTube, but I'm not gonna look anything so.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
In that the cool part about that game, besides the
fact that I was a disaster on that one snap
that was a Greg Hardy hat a block punt in that. You remember,
that was the first game for Greg Hardy in his
NFL career, And we've tried that.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
We've tried to forget most of twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
To be honest with you, twenty twenty ten didn't have
a lot of high moments.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But that was the cam. It led the camp.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It led the cam, It led the camp.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All right, brother, Well, hey have a good trip to Houston.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We'll be watching on Saturday afternoon, and thanks again for
stopping by.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
That's fantastic. Thanks guys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
There he is JJ Jansen, a long snapper.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Anybody out there they used to wear number eighty nine
or anybody else that thought that thinks he's the holder
long snapper?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
All right, we're gonna take a break.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
When we come back, Derek Brown, we go from greatness
to greatness. Derek Brown joins us as we broadcast live
from Panther Camp. Sports Radio ninety two seven w FNZ.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It is Mac and Bone Sports Radio ninety two seven
w f Z live from Panther Camp again, and now
we get to talk to him man that we are
dying to see play in a game. I'm sure he
wants it more than we do. He is Panther Pro
Bowl defensive lineman. Derek Brown dB. How you feeling, man,
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm good. I appreciate you'all having me on.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So how much?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Man?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Is it good to see you again? Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Seriously? Man, oh my god, we missed you and I
know you missed it. How much do you want to
hit someone in another uniform?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Really? Bad put it that way.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I'm excited to be back our third team and you know,
being able to take this process one day at a time,
you know, following the procedures at the dog laid out
and the training staff, and I mean, it's it's been
a whirlwind, that's for sure. Didn't expected to be the
outcome last September when it happened, when he got an
MRI that morning and then came back that afternoon, and
you know, I was told as it for the year.
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So definitely a shock for me, especially the first time
ever being hurt, and you know, that was just it
was a new experience. Definitely had my you know, my
corner and my family, everybody hold me down. It was uh,
you know, it was a time that you know, I
never saw coming, but it was one that was much needed.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Was one of the toughest things about that, the fact
that it happened in Game one and you had to sit.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
For the entire year.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Injuries are tough no matter what, but it wasn't like
October November. It was right off the bat. That had
to be the toughest thing to have to watch the
whole season like that.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Oh yeah, I remember coming back down and talking to
Doc when I got them or I had done, and
he was like, yeah, it'll probably be six to eight
and I was like, okay, six to eight weeks, like
I'll be able to come back and help the team.
He was started laughing, He's like, no, sixty eight months, bucks,
And uh, you know, that was one of those things
where you know, my heart kind of just sink. I
remember going upstair and talking to Wash coach Wash and uh,
you know, going home, telling my wife and I'm like, man,
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this is you know, I was kind of sitting in
shop for a few days, hoping that another doctor would
be like, no, I don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
But uh that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So does that mean what? So what was last year
like then? Was that more daddy time at the house?
Like did you still spend a lot of time here
at the stadium? Like what what was your schedule like
when you realized dang, I'm like I can't play till
next season?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Oh man?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Was it was hard to look forward, you know, to
look forward to this year, you know, especially getting surgery
and you know, just being cut open. I mean that
was one of those things where you know, I never
thought what happened. So I spent a lot of time
at home. I was here with the team every single
day except for the weekends and until I was able
to walk, And then I was able to get back
on the game, getting back to walking and being able
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to be back on my team, and you know, just
being mobile again and being able to help out and
you know, say, you know, just be able to be
there for the young guys. I mean that was a
big part for me coming here and being around my
teammates every single day. I was, you know, very excited
about that, you know, them, you know, still being the
same with me.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know, it was a great thing.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
How's the energy of Camp ban on the defensive side,
especially new bodies next to you. We just talked to
Bobby Brown during the show, made a joke about you
and cheeseburgers, and I said, I wouldn't tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Up.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The edge rushers are new. We saw Scorings play the
other night where he went seventy four yards. What's it
like to play with these new bodies.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
With the man, It's awesome, you know, as we as
you know, we bought in Bobby and I guess he's
got jokes he's not the funniest running the room, so
don't let him tell you that. Uh, you know, bought in,
bought in turk, you know, of course, aar shy Cam Jackson, Jared.
You know, we got some really good death right now
playing them d line and you know, everybody's got their
own part, you know, you know, just learning one another.
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Spent the spring, you know, of course, spent the spring
off to the side watching the guys. So just being
back in trying to learn how these guys work and
learn how they how they rush and how they play
the run, and you know, the shots that I can
take and can't take. You know, it's just it's all
getting familiar with one another, you know, just it's been uh,
you know, so many pieces at it on defense, got boom,
uh trade back at safety. Uh, you know, we got
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a lot of moving pieces right now. So I'm excited
for us to you know, get through camping, get to Jacksonville,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
What do you obviously the personnel there you talked about
is different, right, Dan Morgan clearly made it a point
to invest on that side the ball, especially upfront with
you guys, what is what do you think is the
number one thing that when we watch y'all play this
year in the regular season, that is gonna be different.
Like not just the obviously the talent level is increased,
but like in terms of play stayt Like what do
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you think we're gonna notice the most?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I mean we should be the most the defensive line
that I'll effort you and be the most physical. I mean,
there's no doubt about it. We got the bodies for
it now, so we might as well just keep it rolling.
Do you want You always want to be able to rotate,
and you know we finding in the position to be
able to do that. So you know, now you got
fresh body after fresh body, and you don't want you
to drop off from your ones a two to three
to drop off. You want to be able to have
guys that's continuous, and you know we have that right now.
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So that's what we're excited about most. Gording to the fall,
your guy J C.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Horr got paid over over the summer and another guy
that's been through a lot with his body, so he
probably relates to you in terms of missing time. What's
your relationship like with him and how's that growing over
the last couple of years?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Close close with jac definitely got a lot of money
in this offseason. He got more than me.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
And he had a beautiful little girl this offseason as well,
so you know, just to be able to you know,
kind of be around him as he went through that.
You know, that was a little bit more fun. You know,
him talking about is my baby won't sleep? You know,
him kind of trying to learn that stuff. Man, you know,
especially being there around being done that a few times. Uh,
you know that was a funny thing. So, I mean,
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you know, just continues to grow closer. Definitely a leader
on this team. And you know he talks a lot.
He talks a lot, so he uh definitely is one
that will chirp put you all day out there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You all right, So you talked about him having a
little one, you can relate to that. Matter of fact. Congratulations,
you now have four you have daughters, so three daughters
and a boy. You were talking about it when you
came over and said hello to us, Like, it doesn't
matter if you're the baddest dude on the NFL d
line when you're at home and the kids are going crazy, man,
(25:45):
Like it's it's got it's tough, right, regardless of who
you are.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
What's that? Is that life chaotic right now?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It is, you know, big shot out to my wife.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Uh you know when I'm at home, I don't really
know how she does it, but uh, kudos to her because, uh,
you know, I got I said, I got two under two,
and I got a six year old and a four
year old is about to be five.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So I mean we are busy.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
We are football, basketball, baseball, gymnastics, dance, and somehow she
man just to get it all done. So you know,
it's it's definitely pure chaos at home, but it's a
siding chaos to watch them continue to grow and be
involved in these different things. And you know, me show
up and no matter what I do in the field,
just be able to be daddy at the end of
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the day.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
How you feel about War Eagle this year?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Feeling good? Man?
Speaker 6 (26:29):
You know, I'm always on those boy's side down there
on the plane, so you know, I can't wait to
get I can't wait for them to kick off and
for us to sit around and watch.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
That's why I spend most of my saturdays yelling at
the TV or screaming in my house.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So that's yeah, that's the way we do it too.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So before I let you go, I want to talk
about your attitude. Like you've done a couple of interviews
where you have made it a point to say, like,
don't be sleeping on us, or go or sleep on
us if you want to, but we're gonna prove you wrong.
There's me a confidence like I don't know if you
kind of talk that kind of emphatically in the past
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before seasons. Is this a level of confidence that you
have maybe not felt previously going into the season.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
No, I mean I'm telling this. If you want to
sleep on us, do what you want, you know. I mean,
we took the attitude of the team. Then you don't
really care about what anybody else says outside this building.
You know, the the ninety men that are here working
right now, are working to earn that forty those fifty
three spots. I mean, that's all we care about right now,
the coach of staff and us. I mean, we're gonna
treat like we against the world and we go out
here and try to put some good football on tape
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and uh, you know, Phil, however you want to about that,
but that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We can't wait to watch it, man, we're looking forward
to it. We're so glad you're back. Are you good
to go? Like Saturday where you play? Are you all
good to go? With the knee and the O bleak?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Is everything all right?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I'm feeling good. That's all I can say right now.
I don't know what it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
To tell us what savvy man, He's savvy. Now, all right,
Derek Man, best of luck, stay healthy and thanks for
coming on with us.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh that is Derek Brown, absolute superstar defensive tackle for
your Carolina Panthers. And yes, coach Canalis yesterday gave him
all the credit in the world. He came back to
practice boone for the first time since week one of
camp and it hasn't been the need and he's fine.
Had been that oblique muscle that's been bothering him. And apparently,
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by all accounts, the Panthers run defense was stuffing runs
right and left, and Canalis was asked about afterwards, you
know what was up with a run defense being so good?
And he says, Derek Brown practiced. That's the impact that
he has. Man, that's the sixth or seventh time we've
had him on, whether it be camp or some phone
interviews in the past as well. He that's the most
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like gregarious before the interview that we've ever seen him before. Like,
I don't know if he missed football, would have so
happy to be. Always a good dude, no doubt, but
he was. Usually he's pretty quiet to us and then
he starts talking. He was as chatty as we've ever
seen him before.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He was.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I don't know if JJ got to him or what,
but he was. He was just chatting away before he
talked to us. Yes, he was not to get him
in trouble with the missus at the house, with Mama
Brown at the house, but he seemed a little stressed
by the four little ones running around the house. Yeah,
he had to do some dad venting, and I'm here
for it. You know how much when my kids were little,
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I had to do venting. Hell, just talk to KB
for ten minutes. You'll get some date with those three
little ones. They were comparing rosters at one point. Oh man,
that's cool though. That is definitely cool to chat with dB.
I'll tell you what's not cool, though, Bone, What is
not cool at all is what ESPN has done with
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a couple of different rankings, what the Bleacher Report is
doing to us. I thought we were done with these
lists that annoy me irrationally. We gotta tell you about
it when we come back. It's Mack and Bone. We
are live from the Homer Hideaway, baby a suite right
here in the bunkers of Bank of America Stadium. We're
live at Panthers Camp Sports. It's Radio ninety two to
(30:01):
seven WFNZ.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
We're both really.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Excited to see Bryce Young in the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I think that's a sneaky team in the NFC. You
sent a text over the weekend, so comfortable, not scared
in the pocket anymore.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
What changed for Bryce Yeng?
Speaker 7 (30:25):
I think just that end of the year last year
where he got some confidence to finally go, wait, we
moved the ball, we scored some points. I belong, Why
was I making things so hard? You know, before I
got bench for Andy Dalton.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And all that.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
But yeah, I always got.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
The sense watching last year before he got bench, preseason,
he was always very jumpy. I felt in the in
the pocket, very concerned about taking a big hit, getting injured.
Just not comfortable there. But I watch him the other
night and I'm just like wow. I mean, he looks
like he's, you know, a five year vet now, very smooth,
moves well, eyes down the field, right, he is slick,
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you know.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
He just he looked good. That's the biggest thing there.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Again, it wasn't eye popping, but it's just the comfort
level and the way they executed their offense and marched
down the field was very impressive. And yeah, like you said,
it's a big year for Dave Canalis and Bryce Young
and that Panthers organization. Now you go, Chris Simms coming
along Boney, slowly but surely coming along over to team Bryce.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
That's not buying it yet.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
That is the Chris Simms Unbuttoned Podcast with guest hosts
Stu Gotts from The Dan Levatard Show. Even Steve Gotts
pumped up the Panthers in there, said they're a team
that could surprise people. So I don't know if that's
good or bad that we have Stuve Gotts's support, But
I love what Chris Sims is saying here. Listen, I'm
not going he's completely right about Bryce being jumpy. It's
a good word for it. I think the rookie season,
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Bone was the train wreck. Their offense was different play
callers and stuff like that, different systems. Also, the offensive
line was so bad that year, so I think that
led him being jumpy. I think at the beginning of
the year last year he even said it. I think
it has a lot to do Bone with him being
uncomfortable in the new system.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But he was.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And there's no doubt Bone that you watch him on Friday,
he's not jumpy at all. But you know when els
Chris Simms, he wasn't jumpy the end of the season
last year, but you still told us last week.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I don't trust him. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
So I guess Bryce is gonna have to keep doing this,
and I fully expect Bryce Young.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
To keep doing this. I think this is who he is.
Sometimes I get I actually do like Chris Simms. I could.
He does stir it up a little bit. But sometimes I.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Get lost on the takes because I feel like some
things are said at one moment in time, but then
the next week it's another discussion like this one, where
I never quite know is he now pro Bryce Young
when he was negative a week two weeks ago. I
don't know sometimes Chris Simms can be hard to follow
on the train of thought. Here, it feels like he's
been a Bryce nitpicker. Yeah, I feel like, you know,
(32:51):
but then there are times when he had Bryce number
two in the draft, that quarterback, So it wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I mean, I don't know. He's all over the place,
guys all over the Hey.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
This was nice though, he said nice things this time
about Bryce. We'll see next We'll check back with you,
Sims next week. I do not like and I am
getting questions Zach and Miami says the season is here.
Why you're still worried about Liz Because I'm an insane person.
I'm an insane Panther fan that lets these things bother
me that should not bother me. And I feel like Bone,
(33:21):
I'm getting better at not being bothered by stupid stuff,
but I'm still not fully there.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I'm still not where I want to be.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Because, uh, let's start with Bleacher Report pick the Panthers
to go four and thirteen. Bone Man now shout out
to USA Today, who had US eight and nine.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's exactly the record.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I think we have America's publication four and thirteen. But
you know what, though, bone that has nothing compared to
the ESPN FPI. Now this I cannot really yell at
a specific person. This is I've got a word for you.
Yes it doesn't start with friend to your FBI, ESPN.
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But you know how they do it for college football too.
I don't know they plug stuff in a computer. It
pumps this stuff out. But you showed me this last night.
The FPI formula has percentage chances of every NFL team
to win every game. I'm looking down this list and
it is occurring to me, Bone that the FPI has
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us favored to win one football game the entire season,
only one game? Bone, Do we have over a fifty
percent chance to win? According to this stupid ass FPI?
And it see it is the Saints at home? Duh,
Saints at home? If we were not I went down
to that one. I'm like, if we're not over fifty
was that chance to win? The Saints at home? Somebody
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is drunk in putting information into a computer.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But I still it is like I just did y'all know?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
And again, I know this is an arbitrary computer thing,
but like, did I dream that the Panthers went four
and five down the stretch last year, I'm Bryce Shong
at fifteen touchdowns and six interceptions, Like I did I
dream that? Like, I just don't understand why we are
being put four wins?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Why?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Why do why would anybody think the Panthers are going
to be worse? The roster has been significantly enhanced from
last year.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I just don't get this.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Crap man, Hello, FBI, I want to call it about
the FBI report. Tend to defense. That's a good idea.
I don't why a regression? Well, if you're saying, hey,
you want to see more, and you even said six
or seven, I think it's more than that. But at
least it's moving in the right direction than it was
a couple of years ago. Why is this organization seem
(35:41):
to be going backwards? USA today and the CIA, you said,
what was it called the CPI, The FBI and USA
today have them going backwards. They're not They're not going backwards.
But I don't I don't understand. That's lazy to me.
And that's just assuming that it's the same team.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It's best.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Do you think it's possible, somebody says, Mack to you
realize you're screaming at some sort of computer program Yeah,
I just this isn't I know, this isn't healthy. I
know it doesn't make any sense, but it's just like,
really really computer. My damn Commodore sixty four with the
floppy disks when I was growing up, Bone was smarter
than this damn computer.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So that's that's a reference.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yes, I'm old. What would ninety two say? What would
not ninety two? Is there any way maybe that we
can cut funding to the FBI.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Is that possible? I'll have to check with Elon see
what he thinks. Oh wait, I already ran him off,
because nobody wants to work for an authoritative like myself.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Thank you, thank you ninety two. Now here's the other one.
We hadn't even got to the other one yet. That
was actually put together by human beings.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Bone.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
There's a panel, a panel of distinguished ESPN people that
put together the future rankings.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
They do this every year and again.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I realized this season shouldn't bother me anymore, and I'm
gonna seek help for this Bone. This is bothering me.
Some of these are my fault. I I you kept
showing me these, how you showed me all these? But
you do what you were doing. You're winding me up,
doctor bone, You trying to get me to faint puke in.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
The shower like Fitni.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
This one got me wound up too, because I think
this is wrong. Because we're building towards the future. So
when I see that you did your future rankings and
we ranked thirtieth on ESPN, it's supposed to be based
on your next three years as a team, I personally
believe we have a great chance of spending years two
and three of these next three years into playoffs.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Now I'm a homer, but I honestly.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Believe if you look close enough, and actually care to
look closely, you could see this rebuild is in progress.
And I believe next year is the year Bony if
things go right. But to see us put thirtieth in
a future ranking like, it's just it's it's annoying. The
crapack and I went through the ones that are near
them and why I think the Panthers should be higher
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in the future and what did Some of these teams
may get high draft choices and change their trajectory, but
that's where we sit right now. Cleveland came in twenty six,
Well what is that? Because Shador Sanders is a well
like Cleveland's still trying to figure out is their future not.
They have a bunch of Jabbronis. The Colts are twenty seven,
they got a Richardson problem. The the Jets are. The
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Jets are twenty nine, justin field. They've got to figure
things out. Tennessee's twenty five cam Warden might be really good,
but he's not played a regular season game yet. What's
their roster looking like? And Dallas came in at twenty three.
We're looking at the future. They're gonna have a major
Dak Prescott contract bugaboo because he's taking up so much.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
To the cap.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
They got a lot of money on him, and I
don't trust that either. I put the Panthers future higher
than Dallas as well. And there's a Michael Parsons thing
hanging over right now as well. To me, all those
ones right there have major questions, and a lot of
it's because they don't have their franchise quarterback yet. And
I think the Panthers did they rank our quarterback because
here's how they do it. They have a formula. There
is a formula that I'm sitting here screaming about, all right,
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and overall roster, they rank our roster dead last. I
would argue against that, but that's not my biggest bugget.
But quarterback, we're at twenty four, coaching twenty four, front
office twenty nine. I understand the front office is in
the midst of a rebuild, so you're not getting a
ton of points for this. But but cam Ward, by
the way, Tennessee is fifteenth at quarterback, how he hadn't
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even played. Minnesota with JJ McCarthy is twentieth at quarterback,
four spots ahead of ours.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
With Bryce.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just like Bryce showed you over the last ten
games what he can be, and for some reason, it's
like people are still stuck on.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
The year before.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Those guys might be really guys might be really good,
but they've not played in the regular season yet. That's
all on Kevin O'Connell doing magic with With JJ McCarthy,
it's the you know what it is and justin Jefferson,
it's people that think what Bryce did yes last year
at the end of the year was fake, a fraud,
a fugazi.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
People that don't think it was real. But I saw
don't own damn eyes. And it's real and you got good. Okay,
my peepers work, baby, These people do work.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
It's got two eyes.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Listen to what Lewis Riddick said, and I know, I
got to shut up about this. We got to move
on with our lives and talk to actual football players
instead of talk about these annoying humans that put this
list together. But Lewis Riddick was involved. I like Lewis
Riddick a lot, but he was involved in this pandel
that did this future rankings. Look at his quote here
on Bryce Young. Was what we saw from Young during
the final five weeks of the twenty twenty four season,
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what we could expect going forward.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Or was it a head fake? A head fake? What
he are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And by the way that Bleacher Report see, this is
what's bothered me. The people that don't believe in Bryce Now. Granted, yes,
I didn't believe in Bryce last year when he was benched.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
All right, I gotta own that. You'm gonna go to
my grave with that.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
But Bleacher Report also bones said we're four and thirteen
because they don't believe Bryce Young is legit. Because the
games were meaningless for the Panthers and their opponents last year.
Down the stretch their opponents. We knocked Arizona and laying
out the playoffs like people are just making stuff up
about who Bryce was playing against and what the game's meant.
We played against the two damn Super Bowl teams and
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should have beaten them, So it's crazy. Someone said, are
they playing with us? Into the locker room?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
People up?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Boys disrespected and I'm not gonna stand for it.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
All right, come on.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Down, you guys have to take this personally.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Kicked out of here.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I thought for a second, I was literally addressing the team.
I got a little too fire.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
We know you're addressing Fiddy.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I was passed out in the shower and there's some
random equipment boy walking past. That was the only two
people into your shot and you and doctor Boone. All right, anyway,
time to shut the hell up. Well, I'm not accomplishing
anything worth the craft. We are live from Panther Carr
trying to fire the guy. I just we gotta get
this season going. We got they gotta prove these doubters wrong. Man,
It's time you done with this doubt for months. You
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know you can't yell the season to start it. Skinna
Guit's coming soon. All right, check your blood pressure. Let
me calm down here. I lost it for a second there.
I'd be honest, doctor bone, what's wrong with me? What
he diagnosed me? When Holy I got over here, I
got were heated like fiddy in a shower. But next
thing I know, it's star pukin. All right, when we
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come back, Cooper said he's buying his season tickets back.
See I fired him up.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
All right, we take a deep present. They're gonna ask me.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
To yell at people that stopped with their season tickets
at bsl's. When we come back, it's a defensive hour
live from Panther training camp. At nine five, Trevan Wallace
joins us, does he really sound like Jamis Winston. We
will investigate during that interview. But coming up next Trayvon Mayrigg,
new safety for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
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How about we trot that one out? How about we
test that name.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We are in a bunker here in the bottles of
Bank of America Stadium, Mack and Bone with you. We
got more great camp interviews. Derek Brown coming up at
eight twenty five. He was back at practice yesterday. We
can have it in the run game. That's a beautiful thing.
Nine o'clock hour. A couple of defensive guys, Trayvon Merrick
and Trevin Wallace. Those boys will join us in the
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final hour. Unfortunately, Bone, there's a conversation at eight forty
five about ESPN and Bleacher Report dissing the Panthers. This
is this is bothering me. I thought we were done
with this kind of crappy ranking junk. ESPN one was absurd, blasphemy.
But anyway, let's focus on better things right now, like
(01:19):
a conversation with America's long snapper. JJ Jansen is in
the house. Look at Fitty kissing up to him this
week with the JJ jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
JJ?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Did he buy that jersey or did he borrow one
of yours?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, we got three of them.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Oh my gosh, that's another buck seventy four. That's awesome, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'll break the ice here. He wants you to sign
it so you can put it in his man cave.
But he's also standing very close to you right now.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
He's hovering sign.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Let me tell you something about your street crad with
the with the youngsters, JJ. You might not realize. You
might think just the old man. The youngsters don't dig
JJ Jansen. Yesterday last week I went home with two
things that my son, my sixe year old son aimed
ak little Mac had never seen. It was the JJ
Janssen jersey and the shoes that I shamelessly got Morgan
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to give me. He looked at the shoes and said,
it was a lame. Are you gonna wear those other
the panther game? Let's not wear them, damn near every
day is what I'm gonna do. He said, I don't,
although I'm not working.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I just checked. I just checked.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He said, how those are lame?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Then he said, oh my god, is that your JJ
Jansen jersey.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Love it. That's fantastic. He love that collector's item.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Have you thought what you're gonna do with all the
royalty money that's coming in now?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yes, I'm gonna probably get a uh what's our sponsorship
this hour? Universal Windows? I'll try to buy a window.
One window.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I got one window, get one?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I got all right, I don't have I don't have
that kind of money from all the royalties here Jay.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The text line is repeatedly asking already to talk about
did you talk the referee out of the call the
other day? Because that was that was mid season JJ performance.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
If that's so, yeah, you got to start with mid
season formert absolutely so so on that particular play. One
of the advantages we get is we've got a really
good coaching staff Tracy Smith, Darren Bates.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
You know, they're on top of it.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
And so what I heard coming back from the sideline,
I didn't know who the call was on yet, but
I heard them yell that's the gunner. So forty two
in our you know, that was always Sam Franklin. So
I'm still learning everyone's numbers and who everyone is. But
I heard them, I know that's the gunner, So I
walked out there to explain the guy you saw was
the gunner. So how that play kind of works out
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just a little inside football is the end guys on
the line of scrimmage. The referees are looking to see
if anyone from the middle of the field runs down.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, well forty two.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Our gunner was coming from the opposite side, running across
the field, so he ended up in the middle of
the field, and forty two does it is not a
traditional corner number. Usually those guys are twenty one, twenty seven.
So he sees something that looks a little bit like
a linebacker number. And they're in preseason form, so they're
throwing the flag. The only reason they picked it up
is you begin to say, hey, that's the gunner. Did
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you have the right number? Yes, forty two, I know
it is forty two. Where did he line up? And
they start to all work together. I think they probably
also used replay assist. They don't know to even look
at replay assist if not given, like a queue of hey,
you might have the wrong guy, or if you do,
he's allowed to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
If it was a combination a JJ assist and replay Assistan.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
There's JJ assist replaces.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
But again, at the end of the day, like I'm running,
I'm coming back down the field off of our bench,
Tracy and Darren.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh, Darren Bates was out there.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Darren Bates was like on the field. Yeah, So like
those guys were on top of it. They know, they
know where they've placed everybody, especially in preseason, I'm not
I'm not always sure who's out there with me, right
because there there's very active subs.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You sort of line up.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I know Sam's back there, and that's about it, like
in terms of in terms of preseason football. So I
wasn't entirely sure at the jump what had happened, But
coming off the sideline, they got a good information and
then you're just hoping to get the referees attention and
encouraging them to make the right call.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
They want to get the call right, definitely, they just
got to help out.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, the counselor st JJ one for one already, man,
I think Trevia and Thomas.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yes, yes, absolutely, Sorry, I should have said that, looking back,
he's on his preseason roster.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Baby, I'm on a Friday night though I was I
needed the roster with me Friday night. But I feel
like for this week, I feel like I might actually
the dudes off.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't think JJ DIDW who that was?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I do, no, No, I do appreciate that. I'm I'm
certainly learning where everybody fits on the wrong on the field.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And you said you don't know who's going to be
the coverage unit, went, you know what I mean? These
guys are battling for those covers.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They're battling for spots.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
And the way preseason works is you've got the way
they end up on special teams is sort of how
they're falling right now, and off and defense through one week.
So if you're on the ones on offense and defense,
you're probably on the ones in special teams because the
goal is play your plays on offense, defense, special.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Teams, and then get out.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
So even the even the depth chart right now on
special teams isn't necessarily what the final depth chart will
be because they are trying to manage reps.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
We're trying to get everyone their reps.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
But not have anyone play the whole game, and especially
to show to give the opportunities for the twos and
threes to get plenty of run so they can get
tape out there and then the coaches can see what
they can do in games.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
How much of an adjustment is this right now for
special teams because there is so many new bodies out
there of the guys that might be playing their regularly.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I think that's every single year, certainly. We've had so
many We've talked about this before. We've had so many
guys who've been on the Special Teams unit for a while.
You know, Sam Franklin, we talked about you know, Felipe
Franks was a core guy for US last year. Jordan Matthews,
Lannie Johnson. Those guys were sort of like our core
guys last year. Now none of them are currently here,
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so you're sort of building up a new cores every
single year. I think one of the advantages we got
is the rosters getting deeper, and Dan Morgan and Brandton
and Dave Canalis are putting together this roster. What you
end up getting is a lot better quality players coming
down to Special teams because as the roster gets deeper
guys that are starting on offense and defense are also
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now trickling into special teams and that's what we want.
And so what you're really trying to do on a
special teams element is find the guys like gunners, returners
that have skills, and then you're just trying to raise
up a culture of we're attacking and hitting, which for
especially the defensive guys, it's right up their alley, but
you're just gonna have to encourage them, hey, this is
a way to make a living in the NFL, because
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maybe they've been trying to break in on all own.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Some of the struggles the other day, like there was
a sixteen yard punt return of thirty yard punt return.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The penalties, I think are.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Penalties come up and come up a lot in the preseason. Again,
guys are playing in positions in games they've never been in.
So you have to remember, once you get into the
twos and threes on special teams, most of those guys
on the field have never played special teams before. So
they know how to run and hit, they just don't
know where everything where they're spacing is on the field,
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and inevitably you revert back to the last game you played.
So especially the rookies, they're reverting back to college and
they've never nothing on special teams. Looks like what they
did in college. The punt play looks totally different. Certainly
kickoff looks different now. The big jump is, hey, from
week one to week two, when they kind of go
back into muscle memory, they should be going back to
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week one and learning, Hey, i'm covering a punt, I
need to have my right leverage. I'm blocking that returns
going this way. I can't hold in this particular direction.
And that's where you should see a lot of improvement
going from week one to week two.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Texter says, tell JJ, thank you. He signed my kids
hat cool. At the game Friday, however, the kid asked
the dad, how old is that guy?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He looks young?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
That was probably he doesn't even look old enough to
play in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
He's nineteen.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
This is legitimate, dad, he's older than you. Could you
play in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I don't know that's true. That's pretty that's pretty tough.
I don't know how old is the kid. I want
to find out.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I don't know about that still a young man.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I want to know if you think, are you comfortable
Bone and I have been saying something about you repeating
something that we believe to be facts as advocates for
the America's Long Snap.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
He's a friend. Are you comfortable? Yeah? Can we even
claim that we.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Don't know you guys are friends?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Good?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah? Righte that down. Are you comfortable with just becauesn't
one seventy four? He fits pumped?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So are you comfortable with us saying that in your career,
which is a little lengthy, that you have only had
one bad long snap? Or do you think we're overdoing
it with that statement, because that's what.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We were doing it, meaning that I've had fewer than.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
One, no more like is that all I've had? The
urban town is sure urban.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
That's because Joe Person always wrote about that one snap
in New York.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So I.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Twenty ten, I remember, I remember very vividly, so I.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yes, we we've had one rep where we just couldn't
get the ball off. But I've had a lot of
poor snaps where Johnny or Mike Pollardi like bailed me out,
stuff where I was sick to my stomach.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You guys never saw it or weren't paying it like.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Weren't you didn't notice it because they did so good.
So like I say this all the time to like
young long snappers, like you're gonna make mistakes. Your goal
is that your mistakes are obviously rare, but also in
a way that someone can cover for you. And I
would say in every season, there's probably a couple of
balls like I'm I'm almost embarrassed that that happened, but
(10:52):
I'd like to think my standards pretty high. But at
the end of the day, like we're a team and
we're a group of guys together, and I'm trying to
make it as easy on Sam this year as possible,
but inevitably he'll probably bail me out of one or
two and the kicker will make it and you guys
won't even notice.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And we'll just happen.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
We'll just move right along.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So we're going with it, though there's all I guess
there's been one that has been.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
If that was that one was a disaster, that ball
went That ball went six yards on a punt, So
for those that don't know, a punt snap's supposed to
go fourteen in the air. It rolled to six and
died got stuck in the ground it was. That was it.
That was a complete and utter disaster. So uh yeah,
year that wasn't bad. That was just embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That whole year twenty ten was a mess though.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, we clearly it's like the start of Major League
where it's like the season start. However, the first pitch
of the game goes, that's how the season goes.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I probably got us off onto a bad start there.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The thing typed in JJ Jansen bad snap on Google,
and AI think comes up that you're known for only
having one bad snap since twenty ten.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Say that's because again that was so. That was Joe
Person's first game on Panthers Beat, so he remembers that
very clearly. I was like if he if Joe had
never said that, no one would even know that I've
ever messed up.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well, what we did is we've heard him say that,
and then we keep term that week good, so that
every year goes by and we say, my man still
only had one.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yeah that's right, you know. No, No, Joe's been a
good buddy and a good friend. I always tease him
about that. I said, man, you always let everyone know
that I had that one ball in New York. But
it again. It was a disaster. It actually went down.
Jason Baker was the punter. Jason had a run up.
The ball barely got pass the personal protector. He ran
up and fell on it and it was listed as
a fumble for Jason Baker.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Oh no, you got him lunch, dinner or something.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He didn't have any incentives based on balls that rolled
back to him.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh man, so we saw you miked up on Friday night?
Did you do you know? Like what aired you singing
Michael Jackson and stuff like like, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
My gosh, I did. I did not hear about this,
so they told me, hey, you're gonna be miked up.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
So in my mind I was getting like one of
the like NFL films or like when the Panthers release
the footage like after the fact. Uh No, I did
not know that I was going to be on the
live broadcast. That would sort of like uh. I got
back and I had text messages from some of the
kids on our baseball team, coach JJ, I saw you
on the broadcast. It's like sure I was playing because no,
(13:19):
we heard you. It's like I have what are you
talking about? Only came to find out that how did
I was I singing?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Were you singing of Michael Jackson's like I was playing well,
y'all only.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
During warm up? Sure?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, there was another one. What was the other one?
We played these clips? By the way, Oh did you really?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I still haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
We're a hard hitting football show on a Monday. After
the game, we're playing clips with a long snapper singing, Oh
my gosh, we would never do that in regular season.
The other one was, oh you finding out like you
said that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
The yeah, so so Sam Martin got mad at me.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I had told him at the beginning of the game
that I was miked up. You know, guys usually like, hey,
just let you know. It's a courtesy. But then we
started talking like, oh my gosh, you did tell me
that you were on the broadcast? I said, I didn't know.
So we were like we found the camera, because usually
what happens is like if we're in pregame, out there,
you'll see some random camera that's never pointed at you,
like just following you wherever you are.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And I couldn't find.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
It at the beginning of the game, so I thought, okay,
there's they're not following me, And then all of a
sudden the fourth quarter, there was a camera like just
staring us down. So I think it was me and
Sam like are you are you the guy that's following
me around?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And uh no, they were very cool with that.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
All right, nice.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm trying to find if your if your bad snap
is on YouTube?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh can we just stop with this?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
God?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I described it. I described it perfectly well.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
If they'd find a JJ Jansen forty second highlight reel
though from twenty eleven. There you go, and someone did
all your wrong snaps against the Bears in two thousand
and one. Put that together yourself and yeah, probably trying
to learn YouTube?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
How does YouTube work?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So so today I just gotta wrap this up here
in a second camera time flies when you're talking to
JJ Man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You're not the only one that thinks that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What about your wife?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Does she still feel like that or does she get
a little like because my wife rolls her eyes when
I start to go into like yux mode radio yux
mode at the house, She's like.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Oh, you're acting like you're on she rolls around.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Does your wife still appreciate all your conversation or has
she kind of heard a lot of it?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Oh yeah, all the stuff that I'm workshopping for you guys.
I start with her, Hey, how does this sound? If
I tried this? It was actually really funny. I was
so nervous when I proposed to my wife we are
you're in Green Bay that I was talking her ear
off and she said, twenty minutes before I was planning
to propose, can you please stop asking me any questions today?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
That was That was the last thing she said. I
was like, and I literally responded, are you sure?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Are you sure?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You don't want me to say any more questions? Because
I knew what was coming.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, I still proposed. I still proposed. Yes, we've been
married post no, no, no, we've It was Thanksgiving Day
in Green Bay, Wisconsin. S some say you made the
Lambeau leap that day.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
That was okay, Yeah, she gets a little worn out
from time to time, so uh.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
She'll just walk away. I have had enough.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I feel like you could be like you could be
Chris Rocks One, like the funniest person in the world,
And I feel like the wife would be like, Okay,
enough of this.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
You are with us. You know you're I'm funnier than you.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I just compare us both to Chris Rock. I don't
mind it.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
In fact, I uh redid a Chris Rock joke for
her last night, So I guess that's very very timely.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
People keep asking, uh, Smitty called you a holder during
the game the other day.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Did you hear about this?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I heard about it. Uh, I don't know. I don't know.
What do you want me to what do you want
me to say?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I was very uncomfortable because you are too panther legends,
I mean, two of the elite players that have ever
played here, and I don't want any beef. So I
just that's that's I'd like these Ring of Honor guys
have to get along, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I don't make waves.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Actually, actually, Ryan Fitzgerald, our kicker, said will you ever
get up in the Ring of Honor? Like how many
games you have to play? It was like, I'm never
going up there? Like are you sure? I was like,
I was like, Hall of Famer, hall of Famer, first
round pick, future Hall of Famer, future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
He goes, they could probably put you up there. I
was like, I'm probably over with the PSL owners.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's really trying to get on your good side.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
He's really Yeah, he's buttering.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I saw you guys making he was walking behind the
cart that you were rid choking in yesterday. Oh yeah,
so rookie guys right by me and he was walking
by so.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
So rookies aren't allowed on the golf cart. So it
feels sort of feels sort of bad. But we have
to leave our fourth guy to just walk all the
way back.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, he was walking with me, and that's not so we.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Get like a security escort on the golf cart, and
our security always lets us in the building any of
these key cards.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
He always lets us in the building.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
We've had two or three of these rain days where
it is absolutely dumping and Ryan's stuck outside with no
key card.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
There's no security.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
That's just getting So that's that's how rookies have to
get doctrine.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Because he's a rookie, because he only hit two to
five yesterday.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You know what, at some point we're gonna have to
put up wide posts so everyone understands that our kickers
are kicking quite well during camp, but the skinny posts
are messing everybody up.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So archists must be so glad that isn't it could
be closed now from here on out, like after to day.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh, yes, so that's probably good.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Should I get like an update, I'll tell everybody how
many they made on the skinny.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Post were persons on that group chat, because both.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Are, so I'll be very good.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
So so I said that we we have been so
passively aggressive attacked by our by our media members that
for maybe the last practice day, we'll just turn him
sideways and they'll just be a single post in the
middle of the field that they.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Got last day. Just make it really hard on him.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
All right, we will all right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
By the way, the full the full twenty ten game
is on YouTube, but I'm not gonna look anything so.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
In that the cool part about that game, besides the
fact that I was a disaster on that one snap
that was a Greg Hardy hat a block punt in that. You remember,
that was the first game for Greg Hardy in his
NFL career, And we've tried that.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
We've tried to forget most of twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
To be honest with you, twenty twenty ten didn't have
a lot of high moments.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But that was the cam. It led the camp.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It led the cam, It led the camp.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All right, brother, Well, hey have a good trip to Houston.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We'll be watching on Saturday afternoon, and thanks again for
stopping by.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
That's fantastic. Thanks guys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
There he is JJ Jansen, a long snapper.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Anybody out there they used to wear number eighty nine
or anybody else that thought that thinks he's the holder
long snapper?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
All right, we're gonna take a break.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
When we come back, Derek Brown, we go from greatness
to greatness. Derek Brown joins us as we broadcast live
from Panther Camp. Sports Radio ninety two seven w FNZ.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It is Mac and Bone Sports Radio ninety two seven
w f Z live from Panther Camp again, and now
we get to talk to him man that we are
dying to see play in a game. I'm sure he
wants it more than we do. He is Panther Pro
Bowl defensive lineman. Derek Brown dB. How you feeling, man,
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm good. I appreciate you'all having me on.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So how much?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Man?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Is it good to see you again? Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Seriously? Man, oh my god, we missed you and I
know you missed it. How much do you want to
hit someone in another uniform?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Really? Bad put it that way.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I'm excited to be back our third team and you know,
being able to take this process one day at a time,
you know, following the procedures at the dog laid out
and the training staff, and I mean, it's it's been
a whirlwind, that's for sure. Didn't expected to be the
outcome last September when it happened, when he got an
MRI that morning and then came back that afternoon, and
you know, I was told as it for the year.
(20:49):
So definitely a shock for me, especially the first time
ever being hurt, and you know, that was just it
was a new experience. Definitely had my you know, my
corner and my family, everybody hold me down. It was uh,
you know, it was a time that you know, I
never saw coming, but it was one that was much needed.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Was one of the toughest things about that, the fact
that it happened in Game one and you had to sit.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
For the entire year.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Injuries are tough no matter what, but it wasn't like
October November. It was right off the bat. That had
to be the toughest thing to have to watch the
whole season like that.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Oh yeah, I remember coming back down and talking to
Doc when I got them or I had done, and
he was like, yeah, it'll probably be six to eight
and I was like, okay, six to eight weeks, like
I'll be able to come back and help the team.
He was started laughing, He's like, no, sixty eight months, bucks,
And uh, you know, that was one of those things
where you know, my heart kind of just sink. I
remember going upstair and talking to Wash coach Wash and uh,
you know, going home, telling my wife and I'm like, man,
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this is you know, I was kind of sitting in
shop for a few days, hoping that another doctor would
be like, no, I don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
But uh that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So does that mean what? So what was last year
like then? Was that more daddy time at the house?
Like did you still spend a lot of time here
at the stadium? Like what what was your schedule like
when you realized dang, I'm like I can't play till
next season?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Oh man?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Was it was hard to look forward, you know, to
look forward to this year, you know, especially getting surgery
and you know, just being cut open. I mean that
was one of those things where you know, I never
thought what happened. So I spent a lot of time
at home. I was here with the team every single
day except for the weekends and until I was able
to walk, And then I was able to get back
on the game, getting back to walking and being able
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to be back on my team, and you know, just
being mobile again and being able to help out and
you know, say, you know, just be able to be
there for the young guys. I mean that was a
big part for me coming here and being around my
teammates every single day. I was, you know, very excited
about that, you know, them, you know, still being the
same with me.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know, it was a great thing.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
How's the energy of Camp ban on the defensive side,
especially new bodies next to you. We just talked to
Bobby Brown during the show, made a joke about you
and cheeseburgers, and I said, I wouldn't tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Up.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The edge rushers are new. We saw Scorings play the
other night where he went seventy four yards. What's it
like to play with these new bodies.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
With the man, It's awesome, you know, as we as
you know, we bought in Bobby and I guess he's
got jokes he's not the funniest running the room, so
don't let him tell you that. Uh, you know, bought in,
bought in turk, you know, of course, aar shy Cam Jackson, Jared.
You know, we got some really good death right now
playing them d line and you know, everybody's got their
own part, you know, you know, just learning one another.
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Spent the spring, you know, of course, spent the spring
off to the side watching the guys. So just being
back in trying to learn how these guys work and
learn how they how they rush and how they play
the run, and you know, the shots that I can
take and can't take. You know, it's just it's all
getting familiar with one another, you know, just it's been uh,
you know, so many pieces at it on defense, got boom,
uh trade back at safety. Uh, you know, we got
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a lot of moving pieces right now. So I'm excited
for us to you know, get through camping, get to Jacksonville,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
What do you obviously the personnel there you talked about
is different, right, Dan Morgan clearly made it a point
to invest on that side the ball, especially upfront with
you guys, what is what do you think is the
number one thing that when we watch y'all play this
year in the regular season, that is gonna be different.
Like not just the obviously the talent level is increased,
but like in terms of play stayt Like what do
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you think we're gonna notice the most?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I mean we should be the most the defensive line
that I'll effort you and be the most physical. I mean,
there's no doubt about it. We got the bodies for
it now, so we might as well just keep it rolling.
Do you want You always want to be able to rotate,
and you know we finding in the position to be
able to do that. So you know, now you got
fresh body after fresh body, and you don't want you
to drop off from your ones a two to three
to drop off. You want to be able to have
guys that's continuous, and you know we have that right now.
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So that's what we're excited about most. Gording to the fall,
your guy J C.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Horr got paid over over the summer and another guy
that's been through a lot with his body, so he
probably relates to you in terms of missing time. What's
your relationship like with him and how's that growing over
the last couple of years?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Close close with jac definitely got a lot of money
in this offseason. He got more than me.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
And he had a beautiful little girl this offseason as well,
so you know, just to be able to you know,
kind of be around him as he went through that.
You know, that was a little bit more fun. You know,
him talking about is my baby won't sleep? You know,
him kind of trying to learn that stuff. Man, you know,
especially being there around being done that a few times. Uh,
you know that was a funny thing. So, I mean,
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you know, just continues to grow closer. Definitely a leader
on this team. And you know he talks a lot.
He talks a lot, so he uh definitely is one
that will chirp put you all day out there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You all right, So you talked about him having a
little one, you can relate to that. Matter of fact. Congratulations,
you now have four you have daughters, so three daughters
and a boy. You were talking about it when you
came over and said hello to us, Like, it doesn't
matter if you're the baddest dude on the NFL d
line when you're at home and the kids are going crazy, man,
(25:45):
Like it's it's got it's tough, right, regardless of who
you are.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
What's that? Is that life chaotic right now?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It is, you know, big shot out to my wife.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Uh you know when I'm at home, I don't really
know how she does it, but uh, kudos to her because, uh,
you know, I got I said, I got two under two,
and I got a six year old and a four
year old is about to be five.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So I mean we are busy.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
We are football, basketball, baseball, gymnastics, dance, and somehow she
man just to get it all done. So you know,
it's it's definitely pure chaos at home, but it's a
siding chaos to watch them continue to grow and be
involved in these different things. And you know, me show
up and no matter what I do in the field,
just be able to be daddy at the end of
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the day.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
How you feel about War Eagle this year?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Feeling good? Man?
Speaker 6 (26:29):
You know, I'm always on those boy's side down there
on the plane, so you know, I can't wait to
get I can't wait for them to kick off and
for us to sit around and watch.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
That's why I spend most of my saturdays yelling at
the TV or screaming in my house.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So that's yeah, that's the way we do it too.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So before I let you go, I want to talk
about your attitude. Like you've done a couple of interviews
where you have made it a point to say, like,
don't be sleeping on us, or go or sleep on
us if you want to, but we're gonna prove you wrong.
There's me a confidence like I don't know if you
kind of talk that kind of emphatically in the past
(27:05):
before seasons. Is this a level of confidence that you
have maybe not felt previously going into the season.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
No, I mean I'm telling this. If you want to
sleep on us, do what you want, you know. I mean,
we took the attitude of the team. Then you don't
really care about what anybody else says outside this building.
You know, the the ninety men that are here working
right now, are working to earn that forty those fifty
three spots. I mean, that's all we care about right now,
the coach of staff and us. I mean, we're gonna
treat like we against the world and we go out
here and try to put some good football on tape
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and uh, you know, Phil, however you want to about that,
but that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We can't wait to watch it, man, we're looking forward
to it. We're so glad you're back. Are you good
to go? Like Saturday where you play? Are you all
good to go? With the knee and the O bleak?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Is everything all right?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I'm feeling good. That's all I can say right now.
I don't know what it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
To tell us what savvy man, He's savvy. Now, all right,
Derek Man, best of luck, stay healthy and thanks for
coming on with us.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh that is Derek Brown, absolute superstar defensive tackle for
your Carolina Panthers. And yes, coach Canalis yesterday gave him
all the credit in the world. He came back to
practice boone for the first time since week one of
camp and it hasn't been the need and he's fine.
Had been that oblique muscle that's been bothering him. And apparently,
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by all accounts, the Panthers run defense was stuffing runs
right and left, and Canalis was asked about afterwards, you
know what was up with a run defense being so good?
And he says, Derek Brown practiced. That's the impact that
he has. Man, that's the sixth or seventh time we've
had him on, whether it be camp or some phone
interviews in the past as well. He that's the most
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like gregarious before the interview that we've ever seen him before. Like,
I don't know if he missed football, would have so
happy to be. Always a good dude, no doubt, but
he was. Usually he's pretty quiet to us and then
he starts talking. He was as chatty as we've ever
seen him before.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He was.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I don't know if JJ got to him or what,
but he was. He was just chatting away before he
talked to us. Yes, he was not to get him
in trouble with the missus at the house, with Mama
Brown at the house, but he seemed a little stressed
by the four little ones running around the house. Yeah,
he had to do some dad venting, and I'm here
for it. You know how much when my kids were little,
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I had to do venting. Hell, just talk to KB
for ten minutes. You'll get some date with those three
little ones. They were comparing rosters at one point. Oh man,
that's cool though. That is definitely cool to chat with dB.
I'll tell you what's not cool, though, Bone, What is
not cool at all is what ESPN has done with
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a couple of different rankings, what the Bleacher Report is
doing to us. I thought we were done with these
lists that annoy me irrationally. We gotta tell you about
it when we come back. It's Mack and Bone. We
are live from the Homer Hideaway, baby a suite right
here in the bunkers of Bank of America Stadium. We're
live at Panthers Camp Sports. It's Radio ninety two to
(30:01):
seven WFNZ.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
We're both really.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Excited to see Bryce Young in the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I think that's a sneaky team in the NFC. You
sent a text over the weekend, so comfortable, not scared
in the pocket anymore.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
What changed for Bryce Yeng?
Speaker 7 (30:25):
I think just that end of the year last year
where he got some confidence to finally go, wait, we
moved the ball, we scored some points. I belong, Why
was I making things so hard? You know, before I
got bench for Andy Dalton.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And all that.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
But yeah, I always got.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
The sense watching last year before he got bench, preseason,
he was always very jumpy. I felt in the in
the pocket, very concerned about taking a big hit, getting injured.
Just not comfortable there. But I watch him the other
night and I'm just like wow. I mean, he looks
like he's, you know, a five year vet now, very smooth,
moves well, eyes down the field, right, he is slick,
(31:02):
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
He just he looked good. That's the biggest thing there.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Again, it wasn't eye popping, but it's just the comfort
level and the way they executed their offense and marched
down the field was very impressive. And yeah, like you said,
it's a big year for Dave Canalis and Bryce Young
and that Panthers organization. Now you go, Chris Simms coming
along Boney, slowly but surely coming along over to team Bryce.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
That's not buying it yet.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
That is the Chris Simms Unbuttoned Podcast with guest hosts
Stu Gotts from The Dan Levatard Show. Even Steve Gotts
pumped up the Panthers in there, said they're a team
that could surprise people. So I don't know if that's
good or bad that we have Stuve Gotts's support, But
I love what Chris Sims is saying here. Listen, I'm
not going he's completely right about Bryce being jumpy. It's
a good word for it. I think the rookie season,
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Bone was the train wreck. Their offense was different play
callers and stuff like that, different systems. Also, the offensive
line was so bad that year, so I think that
led him being jumpy. I think at the beginning of
the year last year he even said it. I think
it has a lot to do Bone with him being
uncomfortable in the new system.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But he was.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And there's no doubt Bone that you watch him on Friday,
he's not jumpy at all. But you know when els
Chris Simms, he wasn't jumpy the end of the season
last year, but you still told us last week.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I don't trust him. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
So I guess Bryce is gonna have to keep doing this,
and I fully expect Bryce Young.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
To keep doing this. I think this is who he is.
Sometimes I get I actually do like Chris Simms. I could.
He does stir it up a little bit. But sometimes I.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Get lost on the takes because I feel like some
things are said at one moment in time, but then
the next week it's another discussion like this one, where
I never quite know is he now pro Bryce Young
when he was negative a week two weeks ago. I
don't know sometimes Chris Simms can be hard to follow
on the train of thought. Here, it feels like he's
been a Bryce nitpicker. Yeah, I feel like, you know,
(32:51):
but then there are times when he had Bryce number
two in the draft, that quarterback, So it wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I mean, I don't know. He's all over the place,
guys all over the Hey.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
This was nice though, he said nice things this time
about Bryce. We'll see next We'll check back with you,
Sims next week. I do not like and I am
getting questions Zach and Miami says the season is here.
Why you're still worried about Liz Because I'm an insane person.
I'm an insane Panther fan that lets these things bother
me that should not bother me. And I feel like Bone,
(33:21):
I'm getting better at not being bothered by stupid stuff,
but I'm still not fully there.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I'm still not where I want to be.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Because, uh, let's start with Bleacher Report pick the Panthers
to go four and thirteen. Bone Man now shout out
to USA Today, who had US eight and nine.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's exactly the record.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I think we have America's publication four and thirteen. But
you know what, though, bone that has nothing compared to
the ESPN FPI. Now this I cannot really yell at
a specific person. This is I've got a word for you.
Yes it doesn't start with friend to your FBI, ESPN.
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But you know how they do it for college football too.
I don't know they plug stuff in a computer. It
pumps this stuff out. But you showed me this last night.
The FPI formula has percentage chances of every NFL team
to win every game. I'm looking down this list and
it is occurring to me, Bone that the FPI has
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us favored to win one football game the entire season,
only one game? Bone, Do we have over a fifty
percent chance to win? According to this stupid ass FPI?
And it see it is the Saints at home? Duh,
Saints at home? If we were not I went down
to that one. I'm like, if we're not over fifty
was that chance to win? The Saints at home? Somebody
(34:44):
is drunk in putting information into a computer.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But I still it is like I just did y'all know?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
And again, I know this is an arbitrary computer thing,
but like, did I dream that the Panthers went four
and five down the stretch last year, I'm Bryce Shong
at fifteen touchdowns and six interceptions, Like I did I
dream that? Like, I just don't understand why we are
being put four wins?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Why?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Why do why would anybody think the Panthers are going
to be worse? The roster has been significantly enhanced from
last year.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I just don't get this.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Crap man, Hello, FBI, I want to call it about
the FBI report. Tend to defense. That's a good idea.
I don't why a regression? Well, if you're saying, hey,
you want to see more, and you even said six
or seven, I think it's more than that. But at
least it's moving in the right direction than it was
a couple of years ago. Why is this organization seem
(35:41):
to be going backwards? USA today and the CIA, you said,
what was it called the CPI, The FBI and USA
today have them going backwards. They're not They're not going backwards.
But I don't I don't understand. That's lazy to me.
And that's just assuming that it's the same team.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It's best.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Do you think it's possible, somebody says, Mack to you
realize you're screaming at some sort of computer program Yeah,
I just this isn't I know, this isn't healthy. I
know it doesn't make any sense, but it's just like,
really really computer. My damn Commodore sixty four with the
floppy disks when I was growing up, Bone was smarter
than this damn computer.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So that's that's a reference.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yes, I'm old. What would ninety two say? What would
not ninety two? Is there any way maybe that we
can cut funding to the FBI.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Is that possible? I'll have to check with Elon see
what he thinks. Oh wait, I already ran him off,
because nobody wants to work for an authoritative like myself.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Thank you, thank you ninety two. Now here's the other one.
We hadn't even got to the other one yet. That
was actually put together by human beings.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Bone.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
There's a panel, a panel of distinguished ESPN people that
put together the future rankings.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
They do this every year and again.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I realized this season shouldn't bother me anymore, and I'm
gonna seek help for this Bone. This is bothering me.
Some of these are my fault. I I you kept
showing me these, how you showed me all these? But
you do what you were doing. You're winding me up,
doctor bone, You trying to get me to faint puke in.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
The shower like Fitni.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
This one got me wound up too, because I think
this is wrong. Because we're building towards the future. So
when I see that you did your future rankings and
we ranked thirtieth on ESPN, it's supposed to be based
on your next three years as a team, I personally
believe we have a great chance of spending years two
and three of these next three years into playoffs.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Now I'm a homer, but I honestly.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Believe if you look close enough, and actually care to
look closely, you could see this rebuild is in progress.
And I believe next year is the year Bony if
things go right. But to see us put thirtieth in
a future ranking like, it's just it's it's annoying. The
crapack and I went through the ones that are near
them and why I think the Panthers should be higher
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in the future and what did Some of these teams
may get high draft choices and change their trajectory, but
that's where we sit right now. Cleveland came in twenty six,
Well what is that? Because Shador Sanders is a well
like Cleveland's still trying to figure out is their future not.
They have a bunch of Jabbronis. The Colts are twenty seven,
they got a Richardson problem. The the Jets are. The
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Jets are twenty nine, justin field. They've got to figure
things out. Tennessee's twenty five cam Warden might be really good,
but he's not played a regular season game yet. What's
their roster looking like? And Dallas came in at twenty three.
We're looking at the future. They're gonna have a major
Dak Prescott contract bugaboo because he's taking up so much.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
To the cap.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
They got a lot of money on him, and I
don't trust that either. I put the Panthers future higher
than Dallas as well. And there's a Michael Parsons thing
hanging over right now as well. To me, all those
ones right there have major questions, and a lot of
it's because they don't have their franchise quarterback yet. And
I think the Panthers did they rank our quarterback because
here's how they do it. They have a formula. There
is a formula that I'm sitting here screaming about, all right,
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and overall roster, they rank our roster dead last. I
would argue against that, but that's not my biggest bugget.
But quarterback, we're at twenty four, coaching twenty four, front
office twenty nine. I understand the front office is in
the midst of a rebuild, so you're not getting a
ton of points for this. But but cam Ward, by
the way, Tennessee is fifteenth at quarterback, how he hadn't
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even played. Minnesota with JJ McCarthy is twentieth at quarterback,
four spots ahead of ours.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
With Bryce.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just like Bryce showed you over the last ten
games what he can be, and for some reason, it's
like people are still stuck on.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
The year before.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Those guys might be really guys might be really good,
but they've not played in the regular season yet. That's
all on Kevin O'Connell doing magic with With JJ McCarthy,
it's the you know what it is and justin Jefferson,
it's people that think what Bryce did yes last year
at the end of the year was fake, a fraud,
a fugazi.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
People that don't think it was real. But I saw
don't own damn eyes. And it's real and you got good. Okay,
my peepers work, baby, These people do work.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
It's got two eyes.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Listen to what Lewis Riddick said, and I know, I
got to shut up about this. We got to move
on with our lives and talk to actual football players
instead of talk about these annoying humans that put this
list together. But Lewis Riddick was involved. I like Lewis
Riddick a lot, but he was involved in this pandel
that did this future rankings. Look at his quote here
on Bryce Young. Was what we saw from Young during
the final five weeks of the twenty twenty four season,
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what we could expect going forward.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Or was it a head fake? A head fake? What
he are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And by the way that Bleacher Report see, this is
what's bothered me. The people that don't believe in Bryce Now. Granted, yes,
I didn't believe in Bryce last year when he was benched.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
All right, I gotta own that. You'm gonna go to
my grave with that.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
But Bleacher Report also bones said we're four and thirteen
because they don't believe Bryce Young is legit. Because the
games were meaningless for the Panthers and their opponents last year.
Down the stretch their opponents. We knocked Arizona and laying
out the playoffs like people are just making stuff up
about who Bryce was playing against and what the game's meant.
We played against the two damn Super Bowl teams and
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should have beaten them, So it's crazy. Someone said, are
they playing with us? Into the locker room?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
People up?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Boys disrespected and I'm not gonna stand for it.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
All right, come on.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Down, you guys have to take this personally.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Kicked out of here.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I thought for a second, I was literally addressing the team.
I got a little too fire.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
We know you're addressing Fiddy.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I was passed out in the shower and there's some
random equipment boy walking past. That was the only two
people into your shot and you and doctor Boone. All right, anyway,
time to shut the hell up. Well, I'm not accomplishing
anything worth the craft. We are live from Panther Carr
trying to fire the guy. I just we gotta get
this season going. We got they gotta prove these doubters wrong. Man,
It's time you done with this doubt for months. You
(41:43):
know you can't yell the season to start it. Skinna
Guit's coming soon. All right, check your blood pressure. Let
me calm down here. I lost it for a second there.
I'd be honest, doctor bone, what's wrong with me? What
he diagnosed me? When Holy I got over here, I
got were heated like fiddy in a shower. But next
thing I know, it's star pukin. All right, when we
(42:05):
come back, Cooper said he's buying his season tickets back.
See I fired him up.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
All right, we take a deep present. They're gonna ask me.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
To yell at people that stopped with their season tickets
at bsl's. When we come back, it's a defensive hour
live from Panther training camp. At nine five, Trevan Wallace
joins us, does he really sound like Jamis Winston. We
will investigate during that interview. But coming up next Trayvon Mayrigg,
new safety for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
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