December 11, 2025 • 47 mins
In the third hour, Mac & Bone are joined by Sheena Quick, as she tells you why she's a believer in the Panthers winning the NFC South, the guys react to NBA media members claiming the Heat should get their draft pick back from the Hornets from the Terry Rozier trade, and DVR Dave & Granny Pat join for a Panthers roundtable
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh, Owen's Mac and Bow on your radio, BAF.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You listen to my freeing mat Posh, Come on, posh,
this in my freem t Bone. What's up the fun?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I can't go to work without listening to the Mac
and Bone.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Do a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Mac and Bone
with you having fun here on a Thursday? And why
wouldn't we have fun? Panthers in a playoff race, tied
for the division lead right now, and the only thing
that's not fun is we got to root for the
Falcons tonight. But I believe we can do that with
a division on the line. Bucks expected to get well.
(00:46):
Tristan Wurs is definitely back, and it looks like Evans
and McMillan at wide receiver could play as well. So
it looks like they're getting some help backbone man. So
we'll see what happens tonight. But we've got tons of
Panthers and tons of football to discuss here on the
Mac and Bone Show. We also Bone. I have just
been made aware of a text comment that Fitty made
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to a listener that might reveal that Cowboy Fitty is
still alive. Oh, I am very disappointed in this. I
did not know that Fitty said this about Cam Newton.
So anyway, we will deal with this bone coming up
in a few minutes. I can't wait to hear this.
Also apologies to our guest. I tweeted out eight twenty
(01:30):
five despite agreeing to eight o'quad. So I confuse myself.
But she knows a pro. So she's going on here,
you're ready to go anyway, how bad you mess up?
I'm new to I'm new to booking guests. It's only
been twenty one years, apparently, so apparently, so she had
a quick Is that awesome though? Even though you uh,
you did that? And she's ready to go, she will
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make she will pick up your slack bone. She had
a quick a amazing follow on Twitter, great coverage of
the Carolina Panthers, and she joined us here on the
Mac and Bone show. Shehena, what's going on? How you
doing good morning?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Sheena?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We're doing good, We're doing good. So when yesterday you
were in the locker room and you're talking with these guys,
and you're talking to coach Canalis Bryce as well, it
seems like they all want to say or most of them,
especially Bryce and coach Canalis, want to say, oh, this
is another game. Do you believe them? Because I can't
imagine those guys aren't going to have extra butterflies with
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what and they should like, do you think they really
have themselves convinced this is just another game? Shena.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Honestly, they need to. They need to convince themselves that.
I mean, you know, the thing that irritates a lot
of people about this team is the inconsistency. You know,
you go to Intulambeau, you beat a team with one loss,
you come back home and lose to a team with
one wins. So I do think that it is important
for them to not get too too high on this game.
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Of course, fans they're like, oh my god, we haven't
been in this position in such a long time, and
it's I'm trying to find a way to describe it.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I think that they know the gravity of.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The situation, but they're trying to not be too emotionally charged,
and I feel like that is what caused these disappointing
losses after huge wins from them so far this season.
So to me, I felt like the bye week came
at the perfect time. I know it's late in the season,
but it came after a huge, huge Rams win, and
I feel like they needed that week to kind of recenter, refocus,
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and actually be able to be ready to go down
into New Orleans and take care of business.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Gina, how much did the Saints beating the Bucks last
week increase your worry level with this game? And also
does that end up maybe helping the Panthers that they
just saw again what the Saints are capable of.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think this is what you said last I think
that they saw that what these what the States are
capable of. This a three and ten team, but they're
three and ten because of inconsistency, not because they're just
downright trash. Obviously, they came into Bank of America in
one by ten. They have a good defense. They have
a lot of vets.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
On this defense. They have a top ten passing defense,
I want to say, a top ten overall deep.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, no, they're twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
There's just a lot of but they're just offside the
top ten total defense. But I do think that it's
important as an important reminder, although I don't think the
Panthers needed too many reminders, being that they just lost
to these guys five weeks back.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, no doubt this what You're right, This is a reminder.
But if they don't, if they if they don't remember
what the Saints did to them, that would be a problem.
We're talking with Sheena quick Talk of Carolina Panther football
tied for first place. Huge NFC South games for both
the Bucks and the Panthers over these next few days. Sheena,
what do you do you feel like? I mean, I
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feel like they have to Coach Canalis has to have
kind of learned his lesson about the run game and
just you have to stick with it. Do you do
you feel confident in saying that from here on out
this team will stay committed to the run or do
you still have this fear that many Panther fans have
that you know, we still could get in a game
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and end up, you know, it doesn't work early and
we abandoned it. I mean, what do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I think that Monday night football game was glaring. Yeah,
I think it was glaring. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
The Panthers were on the spotlight.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They had a perfect golden opportunity to show the world,
or the or the nation at least that this isn't
the same old Panthers team because a lot of these
a lot of people, a lot of analysts are still
kind of using the same old, lazy narrative and lazy
takes because they're not really watching this team. Monday Night
Football puts the eye squarely on the Panthers and the
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ways that that game was called. I think was a
wake up call to Dave Canalis, oh see, because when
they came back and played the Rams, totally different teams,
totally different games plan.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I think when he came out
and told y'all the very next day, already raised his hands,
said that was on me. I didn't run the ball. Yeah,
maybe that's sunk in for good. I hope, I hope
she and as you are as well. We're talking so
much about the defensive improvement this year. The job of
Varro's done. You know, Derek Brown gets a lot of
credit on the return. Obviously Horn gets a lot of credit. Well,
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what has Trayvon Mahrigg when he's in there, not suspended
for the game, But what is Trayvon Mahrrigg and his tone, stending, ability,
and attitude meant for this defense? Here? In twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I think it's huge. You know, he is a hard
hitting safety. You know when he does have to go
back and coverage, there's some confidence there. Like I know
that in going into the season, the secondary was an
area of concern mainly because of depth. Mainly because of depth,
so they needed Trayvon Merrick to work out and he's
done that in a huge way, which made his absence
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against the Rams all that more concerning. But you know,
we ended up seeing what happened. I do think that
he's an unarrolded member of this defense.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But when you have.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Fars like j C.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Horn, you have far as like Mike Jack is emerging
as well. I thought that's who you were about to
talk about. And Derrick Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know, sometimes Mary gets lost in the sauce a.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Little bit, but you know that his impact is felt
when he's in there, Like.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He's not one of those guys he's running around doing cardio.
You're wondering, Okay, what are our stakes he's doing.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
You know, he's in the game, He's impacting the game.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think that he's.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Most efficient closer to the line of scrimmage, which is where.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
He likes to play.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Which ever, Ro's deepense, you know, caters to that and
that's why he's seeing so much success.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
If Shena, do you like deep down inside right, do
you believe? Let's get to the soul of Sena quick here,
all right, let's get deep inside your mind, your soul.
Do you believe? Because Bone and Fidia both said they
think now the Panthers are winning the division where I'm
maybe more paranoid like because you talked about it. They
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haven't been consistent, and I just I'm like, not sure
they're ready for it yet. Do you believe the Panthers
are winning this thing? What's what's your feeling?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I think they are. I think the South has been
there for the taking for a long time. But I
think it's gonna come down to week eighteen in Sample. Yeah,
I think it's gonna come down week eighteen in Tampa.
And it's so crazy because the last.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Time that they were in that exact position is when.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Steve Wolf was the interim.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's gonna be had Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
In my heavens, that's true. There'll be no CJ. Henderson
in a Panther uniform. There'll be no there'll be no
Tom Brady that's the good series. Taylor really really sad,
really sad to see Mac fall down the list of
Pander supporters this season. I say, this is amazing. I
asked people that so many people think they're gonna do it.
I yeah, I feel I think it's.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It's warranted. I think your trepidation is warranted. I think
your skepticism is warranted because that's what this team has done.
But I do think that finally they're learning to win.
And that's I mean, I know that sounds very, very cliche,
but if you look back at these five one seasons,
with Ron Rivera's last season, with even Matt Rules seasons,
they were losing.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
These games by one score or one possession.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
No, it's just getting blown out every other every week. No,
I mean they have to blowout sprinkled in there, but
they were always like in the hunt. But what you're
seeing now with this team, I'm Dave Canals is what
ten and.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Four ten four? One score game?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, and one score game.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So you're starting to see a culture. Shit, You're starting
to see a turning of the tie.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And I always say that favor smiles upon winners.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So some of those you know calls that might have
gone the other way. Some of those exposive plays that
might have gone the other way are finally going the
way of the Panthers. And I do think that that's
very important to note, very important to note when those
games are close. Like bright Show, he made a quote
last season he said, as long as there's down in distance,
this team believes. And you're starting to see that come
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to fruition this season.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And do I think that they blow everybody out here
on out? No, But I think that this is a
team with.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
The capabilities to go for and o in this last stretch.
I've seen three on one.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
That's the thing with them is if you tell me,
Sheena they beat everybody, I'm like, yeah, they're capable of
doing that. Look what they did in the Rams, Look
what they did in Green Bay. But then if you
told me they lose it again to the Saints, like
I'd be like, huh, I wouldn't be you know, I'd
be like, oh, there they go again. But you're right
when they when they get in tight games, they finish them.
You know, they're six and one in the one score
games this year. You know, it's good point.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's important to note that the Fates are a division
divisional rival, so there's always that era of familiarity. Those
division games are always, I mean they're always. I mean,
look at what they did to the Bucks last last week,
even though I don't think that the world the Bucks
the world beaters like everybody was trying to proclaim them
to be. But that's another story. Yeah, those divisional games
like it's any given Sunday, and it truly is, it
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truly is. You cannot pencil in a win automatically.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I don't think in any division.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Really, no, no, no doubt, no doubt. It's crazy league.
That's why we love it. And the Panthers are right
up there among the craziest. But man, they're up there
first place too. Sheena quick, y'all if you're not following
her on Twitter, y'all are doing it wrong as Panther
fans at Sena two E's at Sena Underscore, Marie three
on Twitter and Shane afraid to take on some dang
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negative they say in fans either, God bless you Sheena
for that. You police in some of these fools Sena.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's good though, I like it. Though I like it.
It gets me fired up. All right, Sheena, be good,
Happy holidays, and thanks for coming on.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Thank you guys, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Sheena, al right, be good. All right, there you go,
Sheena quick joining us here on the show. Yeah, Bone,
add people to the list of believe in the Panthers
that I'm still sitting here not believing. Beebop said yesterday
he's afraid Bone that a declaration is coming, a playoff
declaration is coming. If this Bucks lose tonight, I will
be very tempt to join you guys tomorrow. Speaking of
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Sir Wine of beef Mac, I've heard rumors that he
may be calling in tomorrow and he may have a
score prediction on the Panthers dates game this weekend. I
don't know if it's true or not, but I'm hearing
some rumor. Oh man, I can't imagine what that is, though,
a lot of mystery as to what his prediction could
be tomorrow. During this war, let's go Bone and Fitty.
I hate to do this. I hate to do this.
(11:57):
It's the holiday season, the Panthers in first place. I
want to be Bone together with all all my fellow
Panther fans, including Panther Fitty, Panther Fitty. Why did you
text the Gooch Grundleman that you always love Cam until
he danced all over Dallas on Thanksgiving? Oh God, what
is Cat? I thought the Cowboy Fitty was out of
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your system. It is.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I was just all about because did you read the
full exchange? Because I made a comment that I want
to remember Cam as what Cam was, and Gooch texted
in Fitty wants to remember Cam exactly how he was
when he was a Cowboys fan. Well, you remember there
was dual fandom. So when Cam's early years, I was
a Panther fan and a Cowboy fan, and I loved him.
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I had his jersey, I did the Super Bowl, I
did the Super Superman thing when.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You scored Touchdow. Then you stopped rooting for us that
very year, didn't you.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yes, we've been over this like twenty seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Why Cam now? Or do you hate Cam? Tim?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
I'm gonna buy his jersey like he's one. He's He's
the best quarterback in the history of this team. So
you loved him until he danced all over Dallas? When
did you start loving him again?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I loved him.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I mean I guess whenever when he when he came
back right, and he had that first game. I mean
I was on the air when that news broke like
that was kind of what started the feelings of coming
back to be a Panther fan. Why do you do
this is a you're just complicated twenty seven thousand teams.
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I want you to forget about your cowboy past. I
don't want you bringing up your ex I don't like
seeing this in the role I have macws x's who
did you reform the Super Bowl when the Panthers played Denver? Yeah, yeah,
I was like indifferent. I mean, I got the best
they've ever been and Fitty picked that year to stop
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rooting for the Panthers. Well, I mean, I've told you why.
It doesn't make any sense anyway. You know what, Boat,
I don't need to bring this up. This is bad juice.
I've been Panthers washed away and forgive me. I don't
need this is device if I shouldn't be doing this.
You got narked by a guy named Guc Grundleman. Gouc Grundlman,
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you got the truth out of this man. He still
thinks like a cowboy fan sometimes threw you. Oh my god,
Gooc Grundleman went a secret agent to get this out
of them. People are laughing that fit. He's got a
friend named Gooch Grundleman. Oh God. When we come back.
Many NBA folks think the Rogier trade was unfair to
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the Heat and they should get their first round pick back.
We have any sympathy mcinto QC for the Heat. Sports
Radio ninety seven WFNZ come back in Back in bo
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Mac back to you, I believe you're manning the ticket
hotline right now. I've got the weather, You've got the tickets.
We sound like a morning TV show right now, tossing
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it to each other. Back to you with Sportsmack. We've
got Fitty making a charcouterie board at the next hour
of fitting in the kitchen coming up next, All right,
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the word Chicago the seven oh four or five nine
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hard time saying the letters out. I don't know why,
like my brain, you know about the multiple misspellings that
I've had, including a three letter word one time. My
brain like I almost called C S. Like, I don't
know why. I'm not very good at spelling things out loud.
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Let's try one. Let's try one. Try New Orleans, New Orleans,
n W. Got that O, R L E A N S.
You got there, you go, there you go. It's a
very slow pace though. Oh yeah, it's like A four.
It's like a fourth grader and a spelling b. You
know what I mean. You're like unsure yourself, and you're
like each letter you're hoping a buzzer doesn't go off.
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You spell like an IVY League offense. Run just plow
shot clock slow would fundamentally sound. We hope no damn
shot clock. All right, So let's talk a little bit
of hornets here. They're back in action after the four
days off Tomorrow night at the Hive against the Bulls,
and I do kind of miss the buggies and hopefully
we're healthier than we were there on Sunday. We'll get
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an injury report today around five point thirty and get
an idea with Lamello and you know, Trey Man and
sexting some of these guys Moosa as well. But let's
talk about this this heat thing, because I had kind
of forgotten about the whole Rogier draft pick thing and
the fact Bony that he was being investigated by the
NBA when we traded him for a twenty twenty seven
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protected first round pick. It's when you think about it,
it is amazing. Usually we're the ones that are on
like the dubious end of things. But imagine how mad
we would be if the league was investigating a player
for a gambling scandal and didn't tell us and we
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traded for that dude and then he ends up Bone
getting arrest and down down the path. So the heat
are still mad about this, and according to reports Bone
they are considering, you know, an appeal. Now I was.
There's an article if you want like background this, there's
an article this week. One of the reason why we're
talking about it is there's an article this week at
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ESPN dot com talking all about how trades work in
the NBA, and they talk about how rare appeals of
trades are after the fact they brought or grievances. That's
what not appeal grievance. It would be a grievance being filed.
And they brought up the hornets with the market bringing
that up during Festivus times, the airing a grievances. Right now,
there's only one person celebrating festivals and that's PDB in
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South ben PDB has enough grievances for all of America
this this festive season. And by the way, that playoff
is for the rest of us. PDB, I don't know
if you've known it all right anyway one day, way,
they point out, is even as bad as the as
The Hornets were bone about the rescinding of the trade
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because it failed physical for Mark Williams and they didn't know,
they thought something might have been up. They chose not
to file a grievance, so they said agrievance is very rare,
but the Heat have considered it. The interesting question is
Bone it's kind of in a gray area in terms
of like what you need to real Obviously, medical information
needs to be revealed when you're trading a player, but
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they say this is gray area, and some of the
executives thought that basically the Heat got done dirty. And
then there were some executives that were surveyed debate that
that did not necessarily feel that way. The Hornets have
never have come out and their public response to did
you know that he was being investigated? Because the league did.
The League was investigating him, so the league clearly knew,
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The Hornets said, no comment, which makes you wonder, It
makes you wonder ifully new and we're trying to play
koy on this. The Heat did not know, and they
traded for him anyway for help that year bone and
he has backfired on them. What do you Well, let's
hear from Bill Simmons first and then and then we'll
toss to you and then I want to see what
fans think about this leg This for twenty twenty seven
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right protected twenty twenty seven. Ifteen to thirty would go
to the Hornets in twenty twenty seven from Miami if
they do not get it in twenty twenty seven. If
it's one through fourteen, then it transition to twenty twenty eight,
and then it's unprotected on for twenty twenty eight. Bill
Simmons says, like us in Charlotte, he hates the Miami Heat,
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but he kind of thinks they deserve their pick back.
Listen to this. So and I did a deep dive
on this.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Unclear if Charlotte knew about the investigation when they traded him.
They've never said publicly. My guess is they knew These
teams always though, so they trade him to Miami. Odds
Are they new he's being investigated for a gambling scandal.
That's pretty tough. Yes, that's like when Okasee traded Jeff
Green to the Celtics and knew he was hurt, like
the teams will do this from time time.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
This is pretty tough. Well, you getting the chatter about
like is there going to be some kind of recompense
to the heat as a result, like or would they
be getting some of like a pickback or the participate
some of the protection back?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's that was gonna be my second thing.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
It doesn't seem like Miami can get the pick back,
but it seems like they should. And I don't want
to defend the Heat because I hate the Heat, but
I think that's unfair.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They lot.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
It's their twenty seven first round pick, and it's crazy
that they're not going to have that pick because they
traded for Ragier who was under a gambling investigation. The
other team didn't tell them they should get the pickback.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Was Miami wronged here? Boone? Well, he starts off by
saying he doesn't know if Charlotte new or not, and
then he goes into how wrong they are. So I
don't don't. I don't think so. Would people feel bad
for the Hornets and feel they got wronged in the
reverse or they just be the laughing stock of the world.
Were pretty sure no national media members would give a
crap if we are the ones, you know what I mean.
And Simmons also said in a separate piece over the weekend,
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the reason that Miami is adamant about that pick is
because they're trying to get Giannis and they need their
twenty twenty seven first round pick. They're trying to get
a deal done. Isn't there something where if they have
traded that pick, Like, you can't trade your first round
pick so many times in such a back to back years,
So there's something where if that pick is traded, they
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can't use first round picks to trade now to make
a big aggressive move something to that effect. So if
they get it back, they then can you know, make
a run at a guy like Jannis. So it matters
to them in the here and now, not just hey,
we got screwed on the Rogier thing. You bring up
a good point about the national media, and like I
feel like there are people like would ESPN write this
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big article about did the Hornets get screwed? Or because
it it is because it's the heat, because it's pat Riley,
because it's heat culture. I think that's a valid point.
I'll also say this, first of all, I do kind
of have a chessure Kat Grin when I hear this story,
because if we did kind of swindle the heat, I
kind of think it's funny. I do kind of think
it's funny. I also think this though, if it was
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the lead and we don't know, the Hornets have not
said one way there did they know? They weren't willing
to answer the question, which makes you wonder does that
mean we knew? But here's my thing. Why is the
burden not on the league to disclose it? The league's
the one investigating him them. The league approved the trade,
So why is this? I don't think this should be
a Hornets are the bad guys thing? I think this
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should be a why did the league allow Miami to
do that trade without speaking up and saying, by the way,
we're investing this guy in a gambling scandal, like you
don't like it. It's exactly like I think with medical stuff,
like he said with the Jeff Green Boston thing, and
of course he said, you know he's still butt hurt
over that trade. Right, it sounds like as a Celics thing.
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I want to get over that. It's something like medical stuff.
I feel like it's up to the team clearly to
disclose that. But when the league's investigating a player, why
does the league Why is it not the league's job
to say, hold on both teams, we're investigating this guy
right now, Like the at least make sure the Heat
know that. Yeah, a lot of people blame in the NBA,
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Carolina Kittie Shaggy. Uh, there's a lot of blame to
the NBA. They approved the trades. So don't be bad
at the Hornets. Blame who approved that trade there? If
they the league approved the trade, well then what it
So let's flip this around. Let's say because Bill Simmons
like didn't really want to give the Heat there pickback,
but kind of things they got wrong, it kind of
thinks they should get it back. But here's my thing.
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If they take the pickback that we traded, that we
just shrewd move. It was And by the way, that
was one of the early moves when Schlatkin came in
here small and Plotkin and told Mitch Kupcheck, Hey, we
got to get guys out. We got to start getting assets.
I even before Peterson got here, it was the start
of that. You know, we traded Hayward won that trade,
like it was some good moves for us. If they
take that away from us, bone now we are wrong
(24:26):
because of what you and the textures have said, like
the league approved it. We have now been done wrong
by the league that you let it stand and now
you're taking our pick back. And to me, the solution,
there's like a clear solution here. I think, why don't
they give the Heat like a compensatory pick, like just
kind of tack a pick on you the way the
NFL does the compics at the end of certain rounds.
(24:48):
Why can't competitory right, not compository I made mistake once,
Do not go there, But why can't they give the
Heat like an extra like the thirty third pick in
the first round or something? Because because it's un isn't it?
Because I'm telling you right now, the Hornets should then
file a grievance if they were to take our actual
draft pick. It is funny, though you brought up the
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best point here, Fitty, get the DVR, Dave laugh ready
to go here. It is kind of funny that we
pulled back the curtain here. It is kind of funny
though You're right that the Heat, who have been one
of the most well run organizations, the most aggressive organizations.
They always seem to have things that fall into place
for them over the last what bank twenty five thirty years,
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and they got got potentially. Oh, it is fun the Hornets,
It is funny. I mean, seriously, I see their point,
but I think the anger should be at the League
and not the Hornets. But man, if we pulled this
off and the League tells them not too bad to
so sad, that's funny as hell, And that is complete
opposite Hornet's ish Like, Seriously, is it not like y'all
got to admit that you you're at least chuckling in
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the car right now as you listen to this, that
we might have swindled bybody when to sit in his
expensive chair with his Gucci loafers. And the Hornet said,
pulled that chair right out, Bernie pulled the Oki dokan
in the League didn't even do a damn thing about it.
And you know, the Hornets are probably thinking all along
if they did know, because again they have not said
one way or the other if they knew about the
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investigation of Rogier. But I'm sure they're thinking. They had
to be thinking. The League's got to inform like, we'll
see if we can do this trade. But is the
league informing them so anyway, but this is still going on.
This Texas's house is still going on. I mean, the
Heat still want that pick back now Rogier is you know.
The other twist too, is here's another funny thing. If
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you hate the Heat, smoke Ludwig would be dying over
this her days. He has an amazing laugh and he
is coming up on the roundtable, the fan round table
with Granny Pat at eight forty five or we're gonna
hear that laugh again, and that laugh is amazing and infectious.
But the Heat also are now trying to do a
trade of like Rogier's rights or whatever, and the league
(26:57):
is telling him they can't trade him. So like not
only bone did the league not inform them, they were
investigating it, but now like he's there saying no, he's
stuck there. So, oh god, you're right. Though the Heat
have gotten the Heat have had a lot of things
go their way over the years. I find I find
this is karma. Oh by the way, while you were
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talking back, Fiddy went out a gigantic sigh behind me
and I don't know what, okay, but that side, Fitty,
is it gas again? No, it was not that my.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
The machine as I was trying to pull up DVR
Dave's laugh was not cooperative. Okay, that's my and you
you were like queuing the laugh and I was wanting
to play because it's such a great laugh and technology
was failing me.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I probably shouldn't do that on the FWA. That's it's
all good. No, no hand up on me that that's
not professional on my part to play to ask for
that on the phone, the uh DV DVR Dave, and
he has sworn me to secrecy. He has told bone
he is very he does not want me revealing any secrets.
But our next victory dance whenever it is, and man,
I hope it's freaking Monday, but he's gonna wear it,
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get up. That will make the victory dance weirder than
it's ever been. I just that's all I'm gonna say, Dave.
I'm not giving anything away. You haven't mentioned yet either
of the package that arrived today either, So we do
that right now.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I wonder if anybody wants to own up to this.
So there was a package in here this morning when
I got here, that was addressed to Chris McClain of
the Victory Dances at WFNZ. I don't know if they
realize that we do more than that.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
No show.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
There's no name attached to who sent this, and it's
a bunch of coconut bras in hool of skirts. Either
mac this is the beginning of some weird behavior or
the end of it, and now we're gonna go missing
after the show. I don't know no one like Grandy
Patt Did she send this from her collection? I don't
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know where this came why grass skirts and coconut? I
know Fitty wears his panther bra when he dances. Did
we say something about a coconut bral?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Do we do?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Did this come up at all? Fitty?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Is there a reason why this is being sent in?
I don't remember getting that specific. Willing to wear whatever
anyone sends in. Oh, don't get me wrong, this wasn't
a specific request. We don't really know what like. I
kind of like the idea of like fans sending stuff
in to wear and looks silly in Victory Dances. I
kind of like the audience involvement, but we don't know
the tie in. But yeah, fitty, I was already thinking
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the same thing. Oh yeah, I'll put that on next
time we danced. Why I'll do a hula. But I
don't really know the tie in. But then again, what's
the tie into? What Dave is gonna wear?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
If I wear the skirt, can I wear the thong
underneath the hind pants on?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
No, non't do that. Don't do that to us. Fitting
We're gonna have a whola dance and a guy dressed
like Shredder from Ninja Turtle. Don't do that. So anyway,
thank you for this text or that is good knowledge
right there, this text or seven oh four number, this
is bad juju y'all. Last time you guys tried to
pre plan a victory dance, didn't it go badly? Well,
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you had the Charlotte. We didn't say for this one.
We're just saying that what happens whatever. It didn't say
against New Orleans. We did have the Charlotte FC in
where they had the winning streak bone and they went
to New York and I set it up because I
was involved. Of course, something bad happened where we wanted
to start Minty in here to victory dance with us
I set it up and then they lost the damn game.
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That was bad. That was bad. And it feels like
it has happened in the past, where like Bones talking
about props he wants to order, but we've been good
about that here lately. It's true. So I don't know.
Hopefully this doesn't jinx it. But you once said that's
Bailey's blue cho outfit of the month that arrived. I
don't think I want to see KB do the blue
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choo and put that grass skirt on. That could be
I don't know, that could be a little too much
so anyway, But if you're if you're out there, whoever
sent these costumes in to where for future victory dances
take some credit. We'd love to know who set it
in seven Are you eighty seven nine eighty a lady
that wants to see that? Or are you a grown
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man from South Gaston? I also wanted to mention this
crow man. I also wanted to mention this bone. We've
got ourselves a little bit of a station cause right
now on behalf a friend of the show. JJ Jansen
America's long snapper Bone. You initially noticed like a week
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or two ago that they are now voting for the
Pro Bowl for long snappers, and that JJ was not,
And they released the top ten in every position. Jace
Horn still number one by the way at corner, but
they did not have JJ in the top ten. So
we started saying we got to vote for JJ Jansen. Well,
he moved up to number six, and JJ Jansen himself
texted us and says, thanks for the support. Maybe your
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work's actually helping. I'm not sure what it is or not.
So then we started tweeting out bone and I forget
how you do this, even though I'm the one that
did it. Hashtag Pro Bowl vote right in the hashtag
Pro Bowl vote and JJ's name JJ Janssen next to it,
And then every you post, you tweet that out and
it count as a vote, and every time anybody reposts
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that accounts as a vote. So we're gonna need people
to if you see us post it, you're gonna need
to repost it. Please. This is a cause near and
dear to our hearts. Not quite as serious as a
cause as what David and Nicoletepper and the Panthers did
the other night. Vote, but we want JJ NFL to
get this more. NFL dot com also is to do
all the vote. Yeah, to do all the voting. You
can vote forever. You know all the panthers on there.
(32:21):
But if you just want to do it on Twitter,
real easy repost our tweets, I'll do it again, or
just send hashtag Pro Bowl vote JJ Jansen and let's
try to get a long America's long snapper where he
deserves to be. People. Come on, Uh, Stephen Whitaker wants
in on the grass skirts and the coca nut brows.
I am not shull. I thought he was mad at
me because I said that my dancing's better than his.
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I thought he was like boycotting us. Is he back now? Yes?
By the way, did JJ send us this stuff? Per
hav This could be JJ's thank you gift. Oh, the
Pro Bowl used to be in Hawaii, That's what it is.
What if we should do a video where we're doing
a Pro Bowl a little hula for JJ. Can we
get walk Mail in this outfit? He's so tall? Will
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that grasskirt cover anything? Well? Cover enough?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I wonder how my show is coca up. By the way, Walker,
there's the way Gilligan wore this at some point back
on the Island, didn't he was the end aware a
coconut brought he end up with that. Okay, I'll have
to We'll have to have to look back on the
archives of Gilligan's Island. I'm told though Fitty Walker is
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not available to participate in the JJ Janssen for Pro Bowl.
He's working on the MUSA for the All Star Game movement.
That's a separate movement going on here at the station.
Walker wants an offensive rebounding skills challenge at the All
Star Game. If you're gonna be during the three point contest,
Mussa just boxed everybody out on the midship. When we
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come back here on the mack In Boone Show on
this Thursday Roundtable Time, the Fit Dog, Cranny, Pat and
DVR Dave, the Trio is back again. Sports Radio n
FNZ Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ. Quickly, little
(34:13):
cleanup Boat. I may have made a mistake again. I
know this is going to floor everybody. I said a
compromise for the whole heat situation with the Rosier trade
and the fact they weren't made aware that Rosier is
being investigated. Don't take the hornets pick because the league
allowed this to happen. Why would you penalize the Hornets,
So just give them like a comp pick at the
end of the first round. I said, give him a
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thirty third pick at the end of the first round.
I have been made aware by multiple people there thirty
NBA teams, So that's on me, all right. I was
thinking of NFL at his homemade It's not a counting issue.
It was just simply my NFL R in the way.
You know. That's on me too, though I didn't catch up,
So you to the thirty third team be instead because
of either the media site or that's what Mike Lombardi
(34:56):
promised that the Karen On targios will be. We didn't
know they'd be a thirty thirteen in the ACC you
know when they say I'm sorry Heels fans at some point,
at some point they were the choice for the Wasabi
Fenway ball with Kee dropping out. All right, let's do this, man,
Let's get good vibes going, baby uh we it is
time for a Panther fan roundtable. We had it suggested
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by a Texter that since we're doing a roundtable, Fitty
be banned from the roundtable for his text a Gootch
Grundleman about how he hated cam when he was a
Cowboy fan. I am not going to take that up
because Pitty has been ninety nine point nine percent of
the time an exemplary Panther fan. So, Fitty, you're in this.
I'm not listening to that text. All right, I'm not
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listening to that text. But it is time now to
talk through it with some of the most die hard,
passionate fans bone we have in our fan base. And
it starts with which lines Granny Pat on? Time one? Okay,
line one? We got one, Granny Pat. What's going on?
Welcome back?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Well, hey, boys, I just want to toe. Ever since
the Rams game, I've been just oh, it's so happy,
so happy, and they played with fire and desire and
I got fired up and almost fell out of my wheelchairs.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Man, oh dang. That's that's when you know the Panthers
played well when you almost.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Fall out of that I've been so happy that the
forty nine Ers game on Monday was doo doo.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah. Let's just let's not go back there. Let's keep
the good vue, let's keep that fire and desire going on.
That's right, we're gonna win, all right, Okay, Granny here
is someone with fire and desire as well, Granny DVR.
Dave is in the house. Dave, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I listened to the podcast from last week and I was,
I was somebody said, get that hyena off the air,
and I was. I was upset for about three seconds,
and then I texted T Bone and who laughed and
I laughed and that was the end of that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh yeah, you know everything can be solved by for
David laugh a good heart. Honestly, Dave, I thought they
were talking about Max, so I didn't think twice about it.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I mean, lapping hyaenas have to stick together show.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It's like a pays baby, all right. So here it
is you.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
When you get all the fans down there, When you
get all the fans down there at the at Manton
More ahead and we're standing around, there'll be a pack
of a couple hundred of us just stand in the
middle of it, laughing like hyenas and the like. Yeah,
those are hyenas, damn straight.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I want hopefull we can laugh. Hopefully these hyenas can
laugh at the bucks as we win the division. Uh,
let's talk about it, Granny Fiddy and d v R
Dave our esteem Panther fan panel, Granny Pat do you
believe we're winning the NFC South?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
No? But what happened positive Granny Goo know.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I think we'll win two out of or and maybe
end up time. And if that happens, what happens?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It depends on the tiebreaker. If a Tampa loses tonight
and we win Sunday, then we have a chance to
get that divisional can you put Granny back on the line.
We seem to have lost the connection with us. Graniously
have some more hoots, Granny, make yourself happy again?
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Well I will.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I'm worry about that.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
All Dr Daves. A little sip of it, Grinnie?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
What is r Granny? What is your first sip of
the of the good stuff? Usually during the day?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Well, I hadn't handed it, says last Saturday. But my
bourbon Betty friends coming up, so we'll have.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Some Saturday alright, Betty's bourbon. Betty's all right, all right,
s V.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Yeah, but older for you.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
TVR day woman. All right, just head aout head over there,
hands off, Betty. D v R Dave do you does
the hyena think the Panthers will win the NFC South.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
My answer hasn't changed. And in spite of everything Fitty said,
I have us beating New Orleans this Sunday. I have
us beating Tampa with the week after that, I have us.
I'm not sure with the Seahawks. Like you said, you know,
it's not that the Seahawks were unbeatable or anything. It's
just if there's going to be a letdown game, that's
the game I wanted to be because the other one
is Tampa and if we lose to the Seahawks, it
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doesn't really do anything. If we beat New Orleans and
beat Tampa twice, we're.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Good to us.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's our division.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's my that's you know, that's my that's my I
you know, second to best case scenario. If we can't
go four and oh, that's the.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
One I want to like it and we'll get the
last laugh then Dave, you.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Know well, and then mix all to laugh.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I can't tell.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I can't tell if it's in the background, and then
just mix them all together.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I know it's like a remix. I can't tell bone
if Fiddy's playing the lamb for if Dave is laughing
live I'm confused. It's surrounded by days. T Granny, Pat Fitty,
Why he's being too negative? Why do you think the
Panthers are winning the division? Fitty? Sounds like Granny needs
some more fire and desire. Mac.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
I have come to the conclusion, not only are the
Panthers gonna win the division, Panthers are going four no
down the stretch is a ten and seven. I think
we're going eleven and six. Everything coming out of that
locker room, Granny, you should believe in. This is a
This is a locker room that is focused on the
task at hand. They know they've let some games slip away.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I e.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
That home loss to the Saints. They're not gonna make
that same mistake twice. Tampa's beaten. They're bad, or we're
gonna break Baker Mayfield in half. Is going to be
coming here on the West Coast at ten o'clock in
the morning, Sam Darnold late in the season three to
four interception game, it's gonna happen. GP you need to
start drinking the Panthers bourbon because this team is winning
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the division and they're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Is tooking, Grannie, what do you think Hey, are we
supposed to do body shots off your granny? At the
Panthers made the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (41:09):
You damn better believe.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Oh man, I never want to know you and your
friend drug Betty there, what's her name? I have never
wanted to do a body bob drug Betty. I'm sorry, Granny,
I have never I have never wanted to do a
body shot off an AARP member's body so badly in
my life. I am so did just throw up. I
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got my wife's finish. Missus Mac is in, Granny, I'm
allowed to. I'm grab to sip away off your bod.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Granny Mac, you got sick the last time I brought
some of that movie.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
That's a little strong for me. Dave's enjoying it. That
davers at the thing is at the laugh on the Branny.
Let's sing someone is someone is singing woe drug Betty.
Drunk Betty, But I am oh drunk Benny. All right, Granny,
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let's see, let's go back for the heart. Let's go
back in one. Let's go back in here. Granny. Do
you think Bryce Young? Has Bryce Young proven to you
he is the long term answer quarterback?
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
But Granny, Granny, do you.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I want to drunk your quarterback. I like Rice, he's
wonderful at times, but we need it every week, max.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
But there's seven and five in his starts. I mean,
I think he's got to do more. Granny. What's the
right size for you? Granny? Like, what's your perfect quarterback?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
What a perfect quarterback is?
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Allan Josh Allen? So you need so you just need
to est dude. That runs over to your rugged mountain,
like you just basically need Cam back again. You need that?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Is the damn truth?
Speaker 4 (42:57):
That is?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
What it is?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
So do you compare? Are all the other men all
the other quarterbacks to Cam? Is that? And it's like
is that? Why?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Like?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
No?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Because late, oh.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Listen, Dave, what do you think? Are you grady to
scolded Dave? But I believe listen here, Dave, I.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Really do I can I compare every quarterback we're ever
gonna have to the best one we've ever had. I mean,
what else is there to say? He's he's You know
when when Cam strapped went out there, the whole stadium
went nuts. For years every time he stepped on the field.
Is Bryce the same? God? No, let's not. Let's not
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say silly things here. But is Bryce our quarterback of
the future. I think so, yes. I think this is
the season where they are where they finally figured out,
you know. I mean, you know, look at look at
Dan's draft class. Didn't his entire draft class around? How
many times does that happen? He's gonna, you know, he's got,
he's got the end of the week, whoever it is.
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And they stand in front of Bryce and say, we
all better be smoking balls of wreckage before Bryce gets touched.
And Bryce stays up and he gets the ball off
or he hands it off, or Rico runs around, you know,
Rico runs through, or Tuber runs around, or you know.
I don't know how these guys are doing it. It's
like an NFL team by a committee. But they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
They're doing it, man, And that's so.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Here's here's here's the thing about Bryce. Here's the thing
about Bryce. Right, if it isn't Bryce, if it isn't Bryce,
who's your quarterback?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
There's a ton of them out there.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
That's the what.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Forty four year old guy to do it?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I like it, man. There ain't nothing for the new
laughing matter. There ain't nothing funny about that from Dvrster
wants to know what was Philip Rivers like in high school?
Grandy Patt, Granny, Granny? What Texter wants to know? Do
you do you like little man? And in your personal life?
(45:01):
Is Marvin a little fella? I don't think he is?
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Is he six tons?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Can?
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Looks great?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Granny?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I like it, Granny. Well, then why do you like Fitty?
Because Fitty is a little fella. You got the hots
for Fitty? Hey, what y'all?
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Fitty is losing my his belly's tight. Always watched him
dance and he he's looking good.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
It's because the Pagers have won somebody games. We're getting
in shape, that's true.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Right, running backs, you got one. You got one running
back to run the ball hard. You got one running
back to run the ball fast. So you know you
got to pick the claim.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
There there you go. I like it all right, everybody, Granny.
You guys knocked it out of the park. Randy views
on the text line. You guys knocked it out in
the park. Granny. You gotta get more positive, No, drink
a little more bourbon with Betty or something. All right,
I will with Betty A good job. All right you guys.
Week next week, Weatherman markan Uh, Bourbon Betty will be
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there round table. I never knew Granny had a wing
girl named Bourbon Betty. I would love to and now
I'm I'm interested. How about a double date Granny and
Bourbon Betty with Fiddy and Flounder on a double date?
He says, No, would you be up for Mac at
some point us getting Granny and Bourbon Betty on the line.
This I need to know more, but be fun. Yeah,
we should probably get him on the roundtable together next
(46:18):
week maybe, But people are dying because Granny just said
Fitty's belly is tight. Granny also came on so happy
and just turned immediately. That happened to the happiness and
the Panther pos buzz off very quickly. This dude says,
Mac is giving Granny a hard time. Mac, don't you
say that you need more from Bryce? And the Panthers
aren't going to the playoffs. And that's true, that's true.
(46:39):
But I expected I don't know, I say the way
she started, Bone, I expected Granny to be Homer and up,
I guess is what it was. By the way, Mac,
we just found out who sent the coconut brash in
the horse skirts Stephen Whittaker. That does and Thenny wants
to join us in dance in the costumes he sent
(47:01):
to us. Did I not list him back as a
main suspect? He was a suspect, seriously a Whitaker. Is
he also a suspect in who Stole Fitties? Blow Up
Doll Nita? Is he in the case or no? He
very well still looking for man very well could be.
When we come back here on the Mack and Bone Show,
we are going to turn our attention to the New
(47:23):
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You listen to my freeing mat Posh, Come on, posh,
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I can't go to work without listening to the Mac
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Do a lot.
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wouldn't we have fun? Panthers in a playoff race, tied
for the division lead right now, and the only thing
that's not fun is we got to root for the
Falcons tonight. But I believe we can do that with
a division on the line. Bucks expected to get well.
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Tristan Wurs is definitely back, and it looks like Evans
and McMillan at wide receiver could play as well. So
it looks like they're getting some help backbone man. So
we'll see what happens tonight. But we've got tons of
Panthers and tons of football to discuss here on the
Mac and Bone Show. We also Bone. I have just
been made aware of a text comment that Fitty made
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to a listener that might reveal that Cowboy Fitty is
still alive. Oh, I am very disappointed in this. I
did not know that Fitty said this about Cam Newton.
So anyway, we will deal with this bone coming up
in a few minutes. I can't wait to hear this.
Also apologies to our guest. I tweeted out eight twenty
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five despite agreeing to eight o'quad. So I confuse myself.
But she knows a pro. So she's going on here,
you're ready to go anyway, how bad you mess up?
I'm new to I'm new to booking guests. It's only
been twenty one years, apparently, so apparently, so she had
a quick Is that awesome though? Even though you uh,
you did that? And she's ready to go, she will
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make she will pick up your slack bone. She had
a quick a amazing follow on Twitter, great coverage of
the Carolina Panthers, and she joined us here on the
Mac and Bone show. Shehena, what's going on? How you
doing good morning?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Sheena?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We're doing good, We're doing good. So when yesterday you
were in the locker room and you're talking with these guys,
and you're talking to coach Canalis Bryce as well, it
seems like they all want to say or most of them,
especially Bryce and coach Canalis, want to say, oh, this
is another game. Do you believe them? Because I can't
imagine those guys aren't going to have extra butterflies with
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what and they should like, do you think they really
have themselves convinced this is just another game? Shena.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Honestly, they need to. They need to convince themselves that.
I mean, you know, the thing that irritates a lot
of people about this team is the inconsistency. You know,
you go to Intulambeau, you beat a team with one loss,
you come back home and lose to a team with
one wins. So I do think that it is important
for them to not get too too high on this game.
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Of course, fans they're like, oh my god, we haven't
been in this position in such a long time, and
it's I'm trying to find a way to describe it.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I think that they know the gravity of.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The situation, but they're trying to not be too emotionally charged,
and I feel like that is what caused these disappointing
losses after huge wins from them so far this season.
So to me, I felt like the bye week came
at the perfect time. I know it's late in the season,
but it came after a huge, huge Rams win, and
I feel like they needed that week to kind of recenter, refocus,
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and actually be able to be ready to go down
into New Orleans and take care of business.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Gina, how much did the Saints beating the Bucks last
week increase your worry level with this game? And also
does that end up maybe helping the Panthers that they
just saw again what the Saints are capable of.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think this is what you said last I think
that they saw that what these what the States are
capable of. This a three and ten team, but they're
three and ten because of inconsistency, not because they're just
downright trash. Obviously, they came into Bank of America in
one by ten. They have a good defense. They have
a lot of vets.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
On this defense. They have a top ten passing defense,
I want to say, a top ten overall deep.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, no, they're twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
There's just a lot of but they're just offside the
top ten total defense. But I do think that it's
important as an important reminder, although I don't think the
Panthers needed too many reminders, being that they just lost
to these guys five weeks back.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, no doubt this what You're right, This is a reminder.
But if they don't, if they if they don't remember
what the Saints did to them, that would be a problem.
We're talking with Sheena quick Talk of Carolina Panther football
tied for first place. Huge NFC South games for both
the Bucks and the Panthers over these next few days. Sheena,
what do you do you feel like? I mean, I
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feel like they have to Coach Canalis has to have
kind of learned his lesson about the run game and
just you have to stick with it. Do you do
you feel confident in saying that from here on out
this team will stay committed to the run or do
you still have this fear that many Panther fans have
that you know, we still could get in a game
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and end up, you know, it doesn't work early and
we abandoned it. I mean, what do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I think that Monday night football game was glaring. Yeah,
I think it was glaring. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
The Panthers were on the spotlight.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They had a perfect golden opportunity to show the world,
or the or the nation at least that this isn't
the same old Panthers team because a lot of these
a lot of people, a lot of analysts are still
kind of using the same old, lazy narrative and lazy
takes because they're not really watching this team. Monday Night
Football puts the eye squarely on the Panthers and the
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ways that that game was called. I think was a
wake up call to Dave Canalis, oh see, because when
they came back and played the Rams, totally different teams,
totally different games plan.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I think when he came out
and told y'all the very next day, already raised his hands,
said that was on me. I didn't run the ball. Yeah,
maybe that's sunk in for good. I hope, I hope
she and as you are as well. We're talking so
much about the defensive improvement this year. The job of
Varro's done. You know, Derek Brown gets a lot of
credit on the return. Obviously Horn gets a lot of credit. Well,
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what has Trayvon Mahrigg when he's in there, not suspended
for the game, But what is Trayvon Mahrrigg and his tone, stending, ability,
and attitude meant for this defense? Here? In twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I think it's huge. You know, he is a hard
hitting safety. You know when he does have to go
back and coverage, there's some confidence there. Like I know
that in going into the season, the secondary was an
area of concern mainly because of depth. Mainly because of depth,
so they needed Trayvon Merrick to work out and he's
done that in a huge way, which made his absence
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against the Rams all that more concerning. But you know,
we ended up seeing what happened. I do think that
he's an unarrolded member of this defense.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But when you have.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Fars like j C.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Horn, you have far as like Mike Jack is emerging
as well. I thought that's who you were about to
talk about. And Derrick Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know, sometimes Mary gets lost in the sauce a.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Little bit, but you know that his impact is felt
when he's in there, Like.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He's not one of those guys he's running around doing cardio.
You're wondering, Okay, what are our stakes he's doing.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
You know, he's in the game, He's impacting the game.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think that he's.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Most efficient closer to the line of scrimmage, which is where.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
He likes to play.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Which ever, Ro's deepense, you know, caters to that and
that's why he's seeing so much success.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
If Shena, do you like deep down inside right, do
you believe? Let's get to the soul of Sena quick here,
all right, let's get deep inside your mind, your soul.
Do you believe? Because Bone and Fidia both said they
think now the Panthers are winning the division where I'm
maybe more paranoid like because you talked about it. They
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haven't been consistent, and I just I'm like, not sure
they're ready for it yet. Do you believe the Panthers
are winning this thing? What's what's your feeling?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I think they are. I think the South has been
there for the taking for a long time. But I
think it's gonna come down to week eighteen in Sample. Yeah,
I think it's gonna come down week eighteen in Tampa.
And it's so crazy because the last.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Time that they were in that exact position is when.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Steve Wolf was the interim.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's gonna be had Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
In my heavens, that's true. There'll be no CJ. Henderson
in a Panther uniform. There'll be no there'll be no
Tom Brady that's the good series. Taylor really really sad,
really sad to see Mac fall down the list of
Pander supporters this season. I say, this is amazing. I
asked people that so many people think they're gonna do it.
I yeah, I feel I think it's.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It's warranted. I think your trepidation is warranted. I think
your skepticism is warranted because that's what this team has done.
But I do think that finally they're learning to win.
And that's I mean, I know that sounds very, very cliche,
but if you look back at these five one seasons,
with Ron Rivera's last season, with even Matt Rules seasons,
they were losing.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
These games by one score or one possession.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
No, it's just getting blown out every other every week. No,
I mean they have to blowout sprinkled in there, but
they were always like in the hunt. But what you're
seeing now with this team, I'm Dave Canals is what
ten and.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Four ten four? One score game?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, and one score game.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So you're starting to see a culture. Shit, You're starting
to see a turning of the tie.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And I always say that favor smiles upon winners.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So some of those you know calls that might have
gone the other way. Some of those exposive plays that
might have gone the other way are finally going the
way of the Panthers. And I do think that that's
very important to note, very important to note when those
games are close. Like bright Show, he made a quote
last season he said, as long as there's down in distance,
this team believes. And you're starting to see that come
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to fruition this season.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And do I think that they blow everybody out here
on out? No, But I think that this is a
team with.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
The capabilities to go for and o in this last stretch.
I've seen three on one.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
That's the thing with them is if you tell me,
Sheena they beat everybody, I'm like, yeah, they're capable of
doing that. Look what they did in the Rams, Look
what they did in Green Bay. But then if you
told me they lose it again to the Saints, like
I'd be like, huh, I wouldn't be you know, I'd
be like, oh, there they go again. But you're right
when they when they get in tight games, they finish them.
You know, they're six and one in the one score
games this year. You know, it's good point.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's important to note that the Fates are a division
divisional rival, so there's always that era of familiarity. Those
division games are always, I mean they're always. I mean,
look at what they did to the Bucks last last week,
even though I don't think that the world the Bucks
the world beaters like everybody was trying to proclaim them
to be. But that's another story. Yeah, those divisional games
like it's any given Sunday, and it truly is, it
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truly is. You cannot pencil in a win automatically.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I don't think in any division.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Really, no, no, no doubt, no doubt. It's crazy league.
That's why we love it. And the Panthers are right
up there among the craziest. But man, they're up there
first place too. Sheena quick, y'all if you're not following
her on Twitter, y'all are doing it wrong as Panther
fans at Sena two E's at Sena Underscore, Marie three
on Twitter and Shane afraid to take on some dang
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negative they say in fans either, God bless you Sheena
for that. You police in some of these fools Sena.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's good though, I like it. Though I like it.
It gets me fired up. All right, Sheena, be good,
Happy holidays, and thanks for coming on.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Thank you guys, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Sheena, al right, be good. All right, there you go,
Sheena quick joining us here on the show. Yeah, Bone,
add people to the list of believe in the Panthers
that I'm still sitting here not believing. Beebop said yesterday
he's afraid Bone that a declaration is coming, a playoff
declaration is coming. If this Bucks lose tonight, I will
be very tempt to join you guys tomorrow. Speaking of
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Sir Wine of beef Mac, I've heard rumors that he
may be calling in tomorrow and he may have a
score prediction on the Panthers dates game this weekend. I
don't know if it's true or not, but I'm hearing
some rumor. Oh man, I can't imagine what that is, though,
a lot of mystery as to what his prediction could
be tomorrow. During this war, let's go Bone and Fitty.
I hate to do this. I hate to do this.
(11:57):
It's the holiday season, the Panthers in first place. I
want to be Bone together with all all my fellow
Panther fans, including Panther Fitty, Panther Fitty. Why did you
text the Gooch Grundleman that you always love Cam until
he danced all over Dallas on Thanksgiving? Oh God, what
is Cat? I thought the Cowboy Fitty was out of
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your system. It is.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I was just all about because did you read the
full exchange? Because I made a comment that I want
to remember Cam as what Cam was, and Gooch texted
in Fitty wants to remember Cam exactly how he was
when he was a Cowboys fan. Well, you remember there
was dual fandom. So when Cam's early years, I was
a Panther fan and a Cowboy fan, and I loved him.
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I had his jersey, I did the Super Bowl, I
did the Super Superman thing when.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You scored Touchdow. Then you stopped rooting for us that
very year, didn't you.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yes, we've been over this like twenty seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Why Cam now? Or do you hate Cam? Tim?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
I'm gonna buy his jersey like he's one. He's He's
the best quarterback in the history of this team. So
you loved him until he danced all over Dallas? When
did you start loving him again?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I loved him.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I mean I guess whenever when he when he came
back right, and he had that first game. I mean
I was on the air when that news broke like
that was kind of what started the feelings of coming
back to be a Panther fan. Why do you do
this is a you're just complicated twenty seven thousand teams.
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I want you to forget about your cowboy past. I
don't want you bringing up your ex I don't like
seeing this in the role I have macws x's who
did you reform the Super Bowl when the Panthers played Denver? Yeah, yeah,
I was like indifferent. I mean, I got the best
they've ever been and Fitty picked that year to stop
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rooting for the Panthers. Well, I mean, I've told you why.
It doesn't make any sense anyway. You know what, Boat,
I don't need to bring this up. This is bad juice.
I've been Panthers washed away and forgive me. I don't
need this is device if I shouldn't be doing this.
You got narked by a guy named Guc Grundleman. Gouc Grundlman,
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you got the truth out of this man. He still
thinks like a cowboy fan sometimes threw you. Oh my god,
Gooc Grundleman went a secret agent to get this out
of them. People are laughing that fit. He's got a
friend named Gooch Grundleman. Oh God. When we come back.
Many NBA folks think the Rogier trade was unfair to
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the Heat and they should get their first round pick back.
We have any sympathy mcinto QC for the Heat. Sports
Radio ninety seven WFNZ come back in Back in bo
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Mac back to you, I believe you're manning the ticket
hotline right now. I've got the weather, You've got the tickets.
We sound like a morning TV show right now, tossing
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it to each other. Back to you with Sportsmack. We've
got Fitty making a charcouterie board at the next hour
of fitting in the kitchen coming up next, All right,
uh yeah, every hour, each hour, we're gonna have a
new giveaway of a family four peck of tickets for
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is Chicago. Text in the word Chicago, and you will
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it bone see H I C A G O. Text
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the word Chicago the seven oh four or five nine
to sixtent. I have a very I have a very
hard time saying the letters out. I don't know why,
like my brain, you know about the multiple misspellings that
I've had, including a three letter word one time. My
brain like I almost called C S. Like, I don't
know why. I'm not very good at spelling things out loud.
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Let's try one. Let's try one. Try New Orleans, New Orleans,
n W. Got that O, R L E A N S.
You got there, you go, there you go. It's a
very slow pace though. Oh yeah, it's like A four.
It's like a fourth grader and a spelling b. You
know what I mean. You're like unsure yourself, and you're
like each letter you're hoping a buzzer doesn't go off.
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You spell like an IVY League offense. Run just plow
shot clock slow would fundamentally sound. We hope no damn
shot clock. All right, So let's talk a little bit
of hornets here. They're back in action after the four
days off Tomorrow night at the Hive against the Bulls,
and I do kind of miss the buggies and hopefully
we're healthier than we were there on Sunday. We'll get
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an injury report today around five point thirty and get
an idea with Lamello and you know, Trey Man and
sexting some of these guys Moosa as well. But let's
talk about this this heat thing, because I had kind
of forgotten about the whole Rogier draft pick thing and
the fact Bony that he was being investigated by the
NBA when we traded him for a twenty twenty seven
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protected first round pick. It's when you think about it,
it is amazing. Usually we're the ones that are on
like the dubious end of things. But imagine how mad
we would be if the league was investigating a player
for a gambling scandal and didn't tell us and we
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traded for that dude and then he ends up Bone
getting arrest and down down the path. So the heat
are still mad about this, and according to reports Bone
they are considering, you know, an appeal. Now I was.
There's an article if you want like background this, there's
an article this week. One of the reason why we're
talking about it is there's an article this week at
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ESPN dot com talking all about how trades work in
the NBA, and they talk about how rare appeals of
trades are after the fact they brought or grievances. That's
what not appeal grievance. It would be a grievance being filed.
And they brought up the hornets with the market bringing
that up during Festivus times, the airing a grievances. Right now,
there's only one person celebrating festivals and that's PDB in
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South ben PDB has enough grievances for all of America
this this festive season. And by the way, that playoff
is for the rest of us. PDB, I don't know
if you've known it all right anyway one day, way,
they point out, is even as bad as the as
The Hornets were bone about the rescinding of the trade
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because it failed physical for Mark Williams and they didn't know,
they thought something might have been up. They chose not
to file a grievance, so they said agrievance is very rare,
but the Heat have considered it. The interesting question is
Bone it's kind of in a gray area in terms
of like what you need to real Obviously, medical information
needs to be revealed when you're trading a player, but
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they say this is gray area, and some of the
executives thought that basically the Heat got done dirty. And
then there were some executives that were surveyed debate that
that did not necessarily feel that way. The Hornets have
never have come out and their public response to did
you know that he was being investigated? Because the league did.
The League was investigating him, so the league clearly knew,
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The Hornets said, no comment, which makes you wonder, It
makes you wonder ifully new and we're trying to play
koy on this. The Heat did not know, and they
traded for him anyway for help that year bone and
he has backfired on them. What do you Well, let's
hear from Bill Simmons first and then and then we'll
toss to you and then I want to see what
fans think about this leg This for twenty twenty seven
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right protected twenty twenty seven. Ifteen to thirty would go
to the Hornets in twenty twenty seven from Miami if
they do not get it in twenty twenty seven. If
it's one through fourteen, then it transition to twenty twenty eight,
and then it's unprotected on for twenty twenty eight. Bill
Simmons says, like us in Charlotte, he hates the Miami Heat,
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but he kind of thinks they deserve their pick back.
Listen to this. So and I did a deep dive
on this.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Unclear if Charlotte knew about the investigation when they traded him.
They've never said publicly. My guess is they knew These
teams always though, so they trade him to Miami. Odds
Are they new he's being investigated for a gambling scandal.
That's pretty tough. Yes, that's like when Okasee traded Jeff
Green to the Celtics and knew he was hurt, like
the teams will do this from time time.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
This is pretty tough. Well, you getting the chatter about
like is there going to be some kind of recompense
to the heat as a result, like or would they
be getting some of like a pickback or the participate
some of the protection back?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's that was gonna be my second thing.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
It doesn't seem like Miami can get the pick back,
but it seems like they should. And I don't want
to defend the Heat because I hate the Heat, but
I think that's unfair.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They lot.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
It's their twenty seven first round pick, and it's crazy
that they're not going to have that pick because they
traded for Ragier who was under a gambling investigation. The
other team didn't tell them they should get the pickback.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Was Miami wronged here? Boone? Well, he starts off by
saying he doesn't know if Charlotte new or not, and
then he goes into how wrong they are. So I
don't don't. I don't think so. Would people feel bad
for the Hornets and feel they got wronged in the
reverse or they just be the laughing stock of the world.
Were pretty sure no national media members would give a
crap if we are the ones, you know what I mean.
And Simmons also said in a separate piece over the weekend,
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the reason that Miami is adamant about that pick is
because they're trying to get Giannis and they need their
twenty twenty seven first round pick. They're trying to get
a deal done. Isn't there something where if they have
traded that pick, Like, you can't trade your first round
pick so many times in such a back to back years,
So there's something where if that pick is traded, they
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can't use first round picks to trade now to make
a big aggressive move something to that effect. So if
they get it back, they then can you know, make
a run at a guy like Jannis. So it matters
to them in the here and now, not just hey,
we got screwed on the Rogier thing. You bring up
a good point about the national media, and like I
feel like there are people like would ESPN write this
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big article about did the Hornets get screwed? Or because
it it is because it's the heat, because it's pat Riley,
because it's heat culture. I think that's a valid point.
I'll also say this, first of all, I do kind
of have a chessure Kat Grin when I hear this story,
because if we did kind of swindle the heat, I
kind of think it's funny. I do kind of think
it's funny. I also think this though, if it was
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the lead and we don't know, the Hornets have not
said one way there did they know? They weren't willing
to answer the question, which makes you wonder does that
mean we knew? But here's my thing. Why is the
burden not on the league to disclose it? The league's
the one investigating him them. The league approved the trade,
So why is this? I don't think this should be
a Hornets are the bad guys thing? I think this
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should be a why did the league allow Miami to
do that trade without speaking up and saying, by the way,
we're investing this guy in a gambling scandal, like you
don't like it. It's exactly like I think with medical stuff,
like he said with the Jeff Green Boston thing, and
of course he said, you know he's still butt hurt
over that trade. Right, it sounds like as a Celics thing.
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I want to get over that. It's something like medical stuff.
I feel like it's up to the team clearly to
disclose that. But when the league's investigating a player, why
does the league Why is it not the league's job
to say, hold on both teams, we're investigating this guy
right now, Like the at least make sure the Heat
know that. Yeah, a lot of people blame in the NBA,
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Carolina Kittie Shaggy. Uh, there's a lot of blame to
the NBA. They approved the trades. So don't be bad
at the Hornets. Blame who approved that trade there? If
they the league approved the trade, well then what it
So let's flip this around. Let's say because Bill Simmons
like didn't really want to give the Heat there pickback,
but kind of things they got wrong, it kind of
thinks they should get it back. But here's my thing.
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If they take the pickback that we traded, that we
just shrewd move. It was And by the way, that
was one of the early moves when Schlatkin came in
here small and Plotkin and told Mitch Kupcheck, Hey, we
got to get guys out. We got to start getting assets.
I even before Peterson got here, it was the start
of that. You know, we traded Hayward won that trade,
like it was some good moves for us. If they
take that away from us, bone now we are wrong
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because of what you and the textures have said, like
the league approved it. We have now been done wrong
by the league that you let it stand and now
you're taking our pick back. And to me, the solution,
there's like a clear solution here. I think, why don't
they give the Heat like a compensatory pick, like just
kind of tack a pick on you the way the
NFL does the compics at the end of certain rounds.
(24:48):
Why can't competitory right, not compository I made mistake once,
Do not go there, But why can't they give the
Heat like an extra like the thirty third pick in
the first round or something? Because because it's un isn't it?
Because I'm telling you right now, the Hornets should then
file a grievance if they were to take our actual
draft pick. It is funny, though you brought up the
(25:11):
best point here, Fitty, get the DVR, Dave laugh ready
to go here. It is kind of funny that we
pulled back the curtain here. It is kind of funny
though You're right that the Heat, who have been one
of the most well run organizations, the most aggressive organizations.
They always seem to have things that fall into place
for them over the last what bank twenty five thirty years,
(25:32):
and they got got potentially. Oh, it is fun the Hornets,
It is funny. I mean, seriously, I see their point,
but I think the anger should be at the League
and not the Hornets. But man, if we pulled this
off and the League tells them not too bad to
so sad, that's funny as hell, And that is complete
opposite Hornet's ish Like, Seriously, is it not like y'all
got to admit that you you're at least chuckling in
(25:53):
the car right now as you listen to this, that
we might have swindled bybody when to sit in his
expensive chair with his Gucci loafers. And the Hornet said,
pulled that chair right out, Bernie pulled the Oki dokan
in the League didn't even do a damn thing about it.
And you know, the Hornets are probably thinking all along
if they did know, because again they have not said
one way or the other if they knew about the
(26:14):
investigation of Rogier. But I'm sure they're thinking. They had
to be thinking. The League's got to inform like, we'll
see if we can do this trade. But is the
league informing them so anyway, but this is still going on.
This Texas's house is still going on. I mean, the
Heat still want that pick back now Rogier is you know.
The other twist too, is here's another funny thing. If
(26:36):
you hate the Heat, smoke Ludwig would be dying over
this her days. He has an amazing laugh and he
is coming up on the roundtable, the fan round table
with Granny Pat at eight forty five or we're gonna
hear that laugh again, and that laugh is amazing and infectious.
But the Heat also are now trying to do a
trade of like Rogier's rights or whatever, and the league
(26:57):
is telling him they can't trade him. So like not
only bone did the league not inform them, they were
investigating it, but now like he's there saying no, he's
stuck there. So, oh god, you're right. Though the Heat
have gotten the Heat have had a lot of things
go their way over the years. I find I find
this is karma. Oh by the way, while you were
(27:19):
talking back, Fiddy went out a gigantic sigh behind me
and I don't know what, okay, but that side, Fitty,
is it gas again? No, it was not that my.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
The machine as I was trying to pull up DVR
Dave's laugh was not cooperative. Okay, that's my and you
you were like queuing the laugh and I was wanting
to play because it's such a great laugh and technology
was failing me.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I probably shouldn't do that on the FWA. That's it's
all good. No, no hand up on me that that's
not professional on my part to play to ask for
that on the phone, the uh DV DVR Dave, and
he has sworn me to secrecy. He has told bone
he is very he does not want me revealing any secrets.
But our next victory dance whenever it is, and man,
I hope it's freaking Monday, but he's gonna wear it,
(27:59):
get up. That will make the victory dance weirder than
it's ever been. I just that's all I'm gonna say, Dave.
I'm not giving anything away. You haven't mentioned yet either
of the package that arrived today either, So we do
that right now.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I wonder if anybody wants to own up to this.
So there was a package in here this morning when
I got here, that was addressed to Chris McClain of
the Victory Dances at WFNZ. I don't know if they
realize that we do more than that.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
No show.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
There's no name attached to who sent this, and it's
a bunch of coconut bras in hool of skirts. Either
mac this is the beginning of some weird behavior or
the end of it, and now we're gonna go missing
after the show. I don't know no one like Grandy
Patt Did she send this from her collection? I don't
(28:45):
know where this came why grass skirts and coconut? I
know Fitty wears his panther bra when he dances. Did
we say something about a coconut bral?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Do we do?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Did this come up at all? Fitty?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Is there a reason why this is being sent in?
I don't remember getting that specific. Willing to wear whatever
anyone sends in. Oh, don't get me wrong, this wasn't
a specific request. We don't really know what like. I
kind of like the idea of like fans sending stuff
in to wear and looks silly in Victory Dances. I
kind of like the audience involvement, but we don't know
the tie in. But yeah, fitty, I was already thinking
(29:17):
the same thing. Oh yeah, I'll put that on next
time we danced. Why I'll do a hula. But I
don't really know the tie in. But then again, what's
the tie into? What Dave is gonna wear?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
If I wear the skirt, can I wear the thong
underneath the hind pants on?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
No, non't do that. Don't do that to us. Fitting
We're gonna have a whola dance and a guy dressed
like Shredder from Ninja Turtle. Don't do that. So anyway,
thank you for this text or that is good knowledge
right there, this text or seven oh four number, this
is bad juju y'all. Last time you guys tried to
pre plan a victory dance, didn't it go badly? Well,
(29:52):
you had the Charlotte. We didn't say for this one.
We're just saying that what happens whatever. It didn't say
against New Orleans. We did have the Charlotte FC in
where they had the winning streak bone and they went
to New York and I set it up because I
was involved. Of course, something bad happened where we wanted
to start Minty in here to victory dance with us
I set it up and then they lost the damn game.
(30:13):
That was bad. That was bad. And it feels like
it has happened in the past, where like Bones talking
about props he wants to order, but we've been good
about that here lately. It's true. So I don't know.
Hopefully this doesn't jinx it. But you once said that's
Bailey's blue cho outfit of the month that arrived. I
don't think I want to see KB do the blue
(30:33):
choo and put that grass skirt on. That could be
I don't know, that could be a little too much
so anyway, But if you're if you're out there, whoever
sent these costumes in to where for future victory dances
take some credit. We'd love to know who set it
in seven Are you eighty seven nine eighty a lady
that wants to see that? Or are you a grown
(30:55):
man from South Gaston? I also wanted to mention this
crow man. I also wanted to mention this bone. We've
got ourselves a little bit of a station cause right
now on behalf a friend of the show. JJ Jansen
America's long snapper Bone. You initially noticed like a week
(31:17):
or two ago that they are now voting for the
Pro Bowl for long snappers, and that JJ was not,
And they released the top ten in every position. Jace
Horn still number one by the way at corner, but
they did not have JJ in the top ten. So
we started saying we got to vote for JJ Jansen. Well,
he moved up to number six, and JJ Jansen himself
texted us and says, thanks for the support. Maybe your
(31:38):
work's actually helping. I'm not sure what it is or not.
So then we started tweeting out bone and I forget
how you do this, even though I'm the one that
did it. Hashtag Pro Bowl vote right in the hashtag
Pro Bowl vote and JJ's name JJ Janssen next to it,
And then every you post, you tweet that out and
it count as a vote, and every time anybody reposts
(31:59):
that accounts as a vote. So we're gonna need people
to if you see us post it, you're gonna need
to repost it. Please. This is a cause near and
dear to our hearts. Not quite as serious as a
cause as what David and Nicoletepper and the Panthers did
the other night. Vote, but we want JJ NFL to
get this more. NFL dot com also is to do
all the vote. Yeah, to do all the voting. You
can vote forever. You know all the panthers on there.
(32:21):
But if you just want to do it on Twitter,
real easy repost our tweets, I'll do it again, or
just send hashtag Pro Bowl vote JJ Jansen and let's
try to get a long America's long snapper where he
deserves to be. People. Come on, Uh, Stephen Whitaker wants
in on the grass skirts and the coca nut brows.
I am not shull. I thought he was mad at
me because I said that my dancing's better than his.
(32:43):
I thought he was like boycotting us. Is he back now? Yes?
By the way, did JJ send us this stuff? Per
hav This could be JJ's thank you gift. Oh, the
Pro Bowl used to be in Hawaii, That's what it is.
What if we should do a video where we're doing
a Pro Bowl a little hula for JJ. Can we
get walk Mail in this outfit? He's so tall? Will
(33:03):
that grasskirt cover anything? Well? Cover enough?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I wonder how my show is coca up. By the way, Walker,
there's the way Gilligan wore this at some point back
on the Island, didn't he was the end aware a
coconut brought he end up with that. Okay, I'll have
to We'll have to have to look back on the
archives of Gilligan's Island. I'm told though Fitty Walker is
(33:27):
not available to participate in the JJ Janssen for Pro Bowl.
He's working on the MUSA for the All Star Game movement.
That's a separate movement going on here at the station.
Walker wants an offensive rebounding skills challenge at the All
Star Game. If you're gonna be during the three point contest,
Mussa just boxed everybody out on the midship. When we
(33:47):
come back here on the mack In Boone Show on
this Thursday Roundtable Time, the Fit Dog, Cranny, Pat and
DVR Dave, the Trio is back again. Sports Radio n
FNZ Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ. Quickly, little
(34:13):
cleanup Boat. I may have made a mistake again. I
know this is going to floor everybody. I said a
compromise for the whole heat situation with the Rosier trade
and the fact they weren't made aware that Rosier is
being investigated. Don't take the hornets pick because the league
allowed this to happen. Why would you penalize the Hornets,
So just give them like a comp pick at the
end of the first round. I said, give him a
(34:34):
thirty third pick at the end of the first round.
I have been made aware by multiple people there thirty
NBA teams, So that's on me, all right. I was
thinking of NFL at his homemade It's not a counting issue.
It was just simply my NFL R in the way.
You know. That's on me too, though I didn't catch up,
So you to the thirty third team be instead because
of either the media site or that's what Mike Lombardi
(34:56):
promised that the Karen On targios will be. We didn't
know they'd be a thirty thirteen in the ACC you
know when they say I'm sorry Heels fans at some point,
at some point they were the choice for the Wasabi
Fenway ball with Kee dropping out. All right, let's do this, man,
Let's get good vibes going, baby uh we it is
time for a Panther fan roundtable. We had it suggested
(35:17):
by a Texter that since we're doing a roundtable, Fitty
be banned from the roundtable for his text a Gootch
Grundleman about how he hated cam when he was a
Cowboy fan. I am not going to take that up
because Pitty has been ninety nine point nine percent of
the time an exemplary Panther fan. So, Fitty, you're in this.
I'm not listening to that text. All right, I'm not
(35:39):
listening to that text. But it is time now to
talk through it with some of the most die hard,
passionate fans bone we have in our fan base. And
it starts with which lines Granny Pat on? Time one? Okay,
line one? We got one, Granny Pat. What's going on?
Welcome back?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Well, hey, boys, I just want to toe. Ever since
the Rams game, I've been just oh, it's so happy,
so happy, and they played with fire and desire and
I got fired up and almost fell out of my wheelchairs.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Man, oh dang. That's that's when you know the Panthers
played well when you almost.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Fall out of that I've been so happy that the
forty nine Ers game on Monday was doo doo.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah. Let's just let's not go back there. Let's keep
the good vue, let's keep that fire and desire going on.
That's right, we're gonna win, all right, Okay, Granny here
is someone with fire and desire as well, Granny DVR.
Dave is in the house. Dave, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I listened to the podcast from last week and I was,
I was somebody said, get that hyena off the air,
and I was. I was upset for about three seconds,
and then I texted T Bone and who laughed and
I laughed and that was the end of that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh yeah, you know everything can be solved by for
David laugh a good heart. Honestly, Dave, I thought they
were talking about Max, so I didn't think twice about it.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I mean, lapping hyaenas have to stick together show.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It's like a pays baby, all right. So here it
is you.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
When you get all the fans down there, When you
get all the fans down there at the at Manton
More ahead and we're standing around, there'll be a pack
of a couple hundred of us just stand in the
middle of it, laughing like hyenas and the like. Yeah,
those are hyenas, damn straight.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I want hopefull we can laugh. Hopefully these hyenas can
laugh at the bucks as we win the division. Uh,
let's talk about it, Granny Fiddy and d v R
Dave our esteem Panther fan panel, Granny Pat do you
believe we're winning the NFC South?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
No? But what happened positive Granny Goo know.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I think we'll win two out of or and maybe
end up time. And if that happens, what happens?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It depends on the tiebreaker. If a Tampa loses tonight
and we win Sunday, then we have a chance to
get that divisional can you put Granny back on the line.
We seem to have lost the connection with us. Graniously
have some more hoots, Granny, make yourself happy again?
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Well I will.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I'm worry about that.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
All Dr Daves. A little sip of it, Grinnie?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
What is r Granny? What is your first sip of
the of the good stuff? Usually during the day?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Well, I hadn't handed it, says last Saturday. But my
bourbon Betty friends coming up, so we'll have.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Some Saturday alright, Betty's bourbon. Betty's all right, all right,
s V.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Yeah, but older for you.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
TVR day woman. All right, just head aout head over there,
hands off, Betty. D v R Dave do you does
the hyena think the Panthers will win the NFC South.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
My answer hasn't changed. And in spite of everything Fitty said,
I have us beating New Orleans this Sunday. I have
us beating Tampa with the week after that, I have us.
I'm not sure with the Seahawks. Like you said, you know,
it's not that the Seahawks were unbeatable or anything. It's
just if there's going to be a letdown game, that's
the game I wanted to be because the other one
is Tampa and if we lose to the Seahawks, it
(39:27):
doesn't really do anything. If we beat New Orleans and
beat Tampa twice, we're.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Good to us.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's our division.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's my that's you know, that's my that's my I
you know, second to best case scenario. If we can't
go four and oh, that's the.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
One I want to like it and we'll get the
last laugh then Dave, you.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Know well, and then mix all to laugh.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I can't tell.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I can't tell if it's in the background, and then
just mix them all together.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I know it's like a remix. I can't tell bone
if Fiddy's playing the lamb for if Dave is laughing
live I'm confused. It's surrounded by days. T Granny, Pat Fitty,
Why he's being too negative? Why do you think the
Panthers are winning the division? Fitty? Sounds like Granny needs
some more fire and desire. Mac.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
I have come to the conclusion, not only are the
Panthers gonna win the division, Panthers are going four no
down the stretch is a ten and seven. I think
we're going eleven and six. Everything coming out of that
locker room, Granny, you should believe in. This is a
This is a locker room that is focused on the
task at hand. They know they've let some games slip away.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I e.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
That home loss to the Saints. They're not gonna make
that same mistake twice. Tampa's beaten. They're bad, or we're
gonna break Baker Mayfield in half. Is going to be
coming here on the West Coast at ten o'clock in
the morning, Sam Darnold late in the season three to
four interception game, it's gonna happen. GP you need to
start drinking the Panthers bourbon because this team is winning
(40:51):
the division and they're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Is tooking, Grannie, what do you think Hey, are we
supposed to do body shots off your granny? At the
Panthers made the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (41:09):
You damn better believe.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Oh man, I never want to know you and your
friend drug Betty there, what's her name? I have never
wanted to do a body bob drug Betty. I'm sorry, Granny,
I have never I have never wanted to do a
body shot off an AARP member's body so badly in
my life. I am so did just throw up. I
(41:31):
got my wife's finish. Missus Mac is in, Granny, I'm
allowed to. I'm grab to sip away off your bod.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Granny Mac, you got sick the last time I brought
some of that movie.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
That's a little strong for me. Dave's enjoying it. That
davers at the thing is at the laugh on the Branny.
Let's sing someone is someone is singing woe drug Betty.
Drunk Betty, But I am oh drunk Benny. All right, Granny,
(42:06):
let's see, let's go back for the heart. Let's go
back in one. Let's go back in here. Granny. Do
you think Bryce Young? Has Bryce Young proven to you
he is the long term answer quarterback?
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
But Granny, Granny, do you.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I want to drunk your quarterback. I like Rice, he's
wonderful at times, but we need it every week, max.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
But there's seven and five in his starts. I mean,
I think he's got to do more. Granny. What's the
right size for you? Granny? Like, what's your perfect quarterback?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
What a perfect quarterback is?
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Allan Josh Allen? So you need so you just need
to est dude. That runs over to your rugged mountain,
like you just basically need Cam back again. You need that?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Is the damn truth?
Speaker 4 (42:57):
That is?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
What it is?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
So do you compare? Are all the other men all
the other quarterbacks to Cam? Is that? And it's like
is that? Why?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Like?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
No?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Because late, oh.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Listen, Dave, what do you think? Are you grady to
scolded Dave? But I believe listen here, Dave, I.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Really do I can I compare every quarterback we're ever
gonna have to the best one we've ever had. I mean,
what else is there to say? He's he's You know
when when Cam strapped went out there, the whole stadium
went nuts. For years every time he stepped on the field.
Is Bryce the same? God? No, let's not. Let's not
(43:40):
say silly things here. But is Bryce our quarterback of
the future. I think so, yes. I think this is
the season where they are where they finally figured out,
you know. I mean, you know, look at look at
Dan's draft class. Didn't his entire draft class around? How
many times does that happen? He's gonna, you know, he's got,
he's got the end of the week, whoever it is.
(44:02):
And they stand in front of Bryce and say, we
all better be smoking balls of wreckage before Bryce gets touched.
And Bryce stays up and he gets the ball off
or he hands it off, or Rico runs around, you know,
Rico runs through, or Tuber runs around, or you know.
I don't know how these guys are doing it. It's
like an NFL team by a committee. But they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
They're doing it, man, And that's so.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Here's here's here's the thing about Bryce. Here's the thing
about Bryce. Right, if it isn't Bryce, if it isn't Bryce,
who's your quarterback?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
There's a ton of them out there.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
That's the what.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Forty four year old guy to do it?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I like it, man. There ain't nothing for the new
laughing matter. There ain't nothing funny about that from Dvrster
wants to know what was Philip Rivers like in high school?
Grandy Patt, Granny, Granny? What Texter wants to know? Do
you do you like little man? And in your personal life?
(45:01):
Is Marvin a little fella? I don't think he is?
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Is he six tons?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Can?
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Looks great?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Granny?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I like it, Granny. Well, then why do you like Fitty?
Because Fitty is a little fella. You got the hots
for Fitty? Hey, what y'all?
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Fitty is losing my his belly's tight. Always watched him
dance and he he's looking good.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
It's because the Pagers have won somebody games. We're getting
in shape, that's true.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Right, running backs, you got one. You got one running
back to run the ball hard. You got one running
back to run the ball fast. So you know you
got to pick the claim.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
There there you go. I like it all right, everybody, Granny.
You guys knocked it out of the park. Randy views
on the text line. You guys knocked it out in
the park. Granny. You gotta get more positive, No, drink
a little more bourbon with Betty or something. All right,
I will with Betty A good job. All right you guys.
Week next week, Weatherman markan Uh, Bourbon Betty will be
(45:56):
there round table. I never knew Granny had a wing
girl named Bourbon Betty. I would love to and now
I'm I'm interested. How about a double date Granny and
Bourbon Betty with Fiddy and Flounder on a double date?
He says, No, would you be up for Mac at
some point us getting Granny and Bourbon Betty on the line.
This I need to know more, but be fun. Yeah,
we should probably get him on the roundtable together next
(46:18):
week maybe, But people are dying because Granny just said
Fitty's belly is tight. Granny also came on so happy
and just turned immediately. That happened to the happiness and
the Panther pos buzz off very quickly. This dude says,
Mac is giving Granny a hard time. Mac, don't you
say that you need more from Bryce? And the Panthers
aren't going to the playoffs. And that's true, that's true.
(46:39):
But I expected I don't know, I say the way
she started, Bone, I expected Granny to be Homer and up,
I guess is what it was. By the way, Mac,
we just found out who sent the coconut brash in
the horse skirts Stephen Whittaker. That does and Thenny wants
to join us in dance in the costumes he sent
(47:01):
to us. Did I not list him back as a
main suspect? He was a suspect, seriously a Whitaker. Is
he also a suspect in who Stole Fitties? Blow Up
Doll Nita? Is he in the case or no? He
very well still looking for man very well could be.
When we come back here on the Mack and Bone Show,
we are going to turn our attention to the New
(47:23):
Orleans Saints. Do you know your enemy? Addition, all you
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