August 1, 2025 • 41 mins
In the third hour, Mac & Bone are joined by Ty Hildenbrandt, who previews the upcoming college football season, the Voice of the Panthers, Anish Shroff joins the show, to set the scene for tomorrow's Fan Fest event at Bank of America Stadium, and the guys tell you why the Panthers shouldn't be interested in trading for Commanders WR Terry McLaurin
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ eight o'clockers, Welcome aboard.
We move on from all the drama surrounding Captain Content
Fitty Marlowe. Just drama just surrounding the man. And right
now we're going to talk about our favorite drama of
them all, which is the world of football and specifically
college football. We got to continue to preview the season,
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get thoughts from other folks that know the game and
love the game out there. And our next guest is
a part of the Solid Verbal podcast. Those guys do
a great job. Ty Hildenbrandt joins us here on the
Mack and Bone Show as we count down the days
four weeks right now to week one, only three to
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week zero?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Ty, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I assume you are ready for football season. I am
tingling as you are saying this, you're doing this lead
in I am tingling. Yes, a matter of weeks. It's
finally about to be here. I'm excited, guys, Thank you
for having me. Hey man, we feel like our next topic,
what gives you the football tingles?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We're we're gonna write that down. I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We were talking earlier about some of these big Week
one matchups, specifically for the ACC. It's no secret anybody
tie the ACC is fighting for respect and they got
to actually win some of these games to start to
get it. The biggest one involving an ACC team is
that Clemson LSU game. Have you how much have you
thought about that Week one matchup? Do you, like, have
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Aleen already a month out? What are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I'm all in on Clemson this year, and you know so,
probably to my detriment, just because it's I think blinded
me a little bit from other things maybe that are
going on in a conference. But look, I mean everyone's
going to be focused on that game to your point, right,
Everyone's going to be focused on that big one LSU
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coming to town. Obviously there's real national significance there in
terms of the playoffs. It'll be an early barometer for
where both conferences are at adder near the top. So
I think that will be certainly very very important. But
to the broader point, Yeah, the ACC, if it wants to,
I guess, pick up where it left off last year
where it got two playoff teams in needs to show
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out in Week one and there gonna be some opportunities
to do that. I mean, they're not all as high
profile as LSU at Clemson. I think that one will
get most of the attention, but even games like Syracuse
against Tennessee, Like can Syracuse hold its own against Tennessee?
That might have some bearing on how people feel about
the conference, at least at the start of September. Alabama
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coming to town against Florida State. Florida State trying to
get up off the bat from last season, needs to
kind of show itself a worthy competitor for Alabama. So
there's gonna be plenty of opportunities here beyond that one
at the very top. But yeah, I'm Clemson's like my
preseason number one team. I'm going all in on Clemson.
I've got them winning that one in Week one against
LSU at home.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
So when you say you're all in you have them
number one, Does that mean that that Clemson is your
national title pack this year?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I haven't gotten that far quite yet in my predictions.
I'm still working my way through the SEC. But let's
put it this way, I'd be very surprised if Clemson
weren't the ACC title winner, and if they weren't going
into the playoffs with a whole head of steam. I mean,
they've got I think, a schedule that works in their favor.
They've probably got a roster that stuff that's the most
returning production of anybody in the country. There's a lot
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of reason to feel really good about the Tigers. So
they will absolutely be in that conversation and in that
field of twelve. I need to think a little bit
more deeply about how far I have them going.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Now, you guys did a great tiers list on the
Solid Verbal. You did an hour long podcast previewing the
ACC season. I believe it was you tie that had
a team as the second best team in the conference.
I don't think anybody else has. Do you want to
explain who that is and your reasoning behind your second
best team?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I can, And let me just preface it by saying,
anytime you kind of go out in a limb and
don't realize you're going out in a limb until you
look at what everyone else has projected. Yeah, it's not
a great feeling, to be honest with you, but I'm
on Pitt. I'm on Pitt. I like Pitt.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
This year.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Pitt misses both Clemson and SMU on their schedule, they
get Louisville and Miami at home, and I think I
am just sort of enchanted by the duo of Eli
Holstein and a really solid running game. Look, it's a
team that I think last season specifically has a lot
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it needs to clean up. For sure, it is not
by any means they finished product. But I think what
we saw from Holstein once he started to come into
his own left me with optimism that the offense is
going to get better this season if they can figure
out a way to get a little bit of a
pass rush, if they can just make marginal improvements across
the board, I think it's a really interesting case in
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this year's ACC season. So yeah, it wasn't so much
a projection to just be different. I genuinely feel like
Pitt is going to have a good season and I'm
excited to see what they've got.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
All Right, let's talk, because you guys did this whole
episode on You Know ACC and previewing the ACC Solid
Verbal podcast. Everybody look for it, And let's talk about
where you're at on Bill Belichi, the Bill Belichick experience
at UNC. Once they actually get on the field and
get out of the headlines, what do you expect from
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the tar heels.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, it's hard to say.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I mean, nobody seems to have a clue as to
what any of this is going to look like. And
that doesn't mean, you know, whether you're talking about a
product in the field or there nothing both behind the scenes.
You know, We've interviewed North Carolina people on our show
and everybody just sort of shrugs. Right. So, even though
there is a ton new on defense, I'd be stunned
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if Bill Belichick didn't find some way to improve that
side of the ball, especially given this schedule. This is
a team that gave up a ton of big plays
last season, especially through the air, and so I think
he will find some ways to clean that up. I
also like Geo Lopez, who they bring over from South Alabama,
so I think there are some concepts that they can
mix in that will make them look a little bit
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different on offense. I wouldn't want to touch the win
total with like a ten foot poll. I think it's
at seven and a half at least the last time
I checked, because I think first and foremost, you've got
somebody like a Bill Belichick who's got so much knowledge.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
About the game.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
It would be a very big prize to me if
you just came in there and suddenly the whole thing
bottoms out and it's a full on disaster. Even though
the pr campaign in the offseason has sort of been out,
I still expect this is going to be a pretty
good team with a good schedule. That might take a
little bit of time with forty one or fifty one
transfers in or fifty one out, forty one in excuse me,
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to kind of get their guys and figure out who
their playmakers are. But I think they're set up well
enough that this is potentially, you know, an eight and
four of all things go well, a nine and three
kind of team.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Hi, what's your expectation for South Carolina and the game?
Cos this year? Of all the many teams we talk about,
it feels like they have the widest range in people's opinion.
Some have them you know, they could be a top
forty forty five team. Some think they might be a
playoff team. What's the what's the ti Hide brand assessment
of what we might see from the game cox this year?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, I mean South Carolina is an interesting case, right
because you've got big names like Lenora Sellers, who people
are gonna know come draft time, and Dylan Stewart another
one who might be the best pass rusher in the country,
and a guy like in Nick Harber who's just a
freak athlete. I think those three guys distract from the
fact that this team just lost an absolute ton on
defense last year, and I think they're gonna be better
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on offense, They're probably gonna be worse on defense if
they brutal schedule with six of their last seven potentially
against top fifteen caliber teams. I've got them pretty far down.
I'm looking at my list here, maybe like fifth, sixth,
seventh from the bottom in the SEC. I think, like
most South Carolina teams under Shane Beemer, they will be plucky.
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They are always the kind of team that can knock
you off if you don't get their full attention. But
I think the underlying thing with South Carolina is that
they're very exciting on that top line with some of
the athletes that they have, but the depth isn't there otherwise.
So I'm not quite as bullish on South Carolina as
I expected to be before I started doing all my research.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
So do you have the ACC with multiple playoff teams?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Again?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
How many playoff teams would you would you give the
ACC if you had to do a preseason? You know,
guess I was thinking about this the other day. I've
got him with one right now, I've got him with
one as Clemson. I think the way that it broke
out for me, I have or I'm going to have
four in the SEC, three in the Big Ten, probably
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two in the Big twelve, one in the ACC Notre Dame,
and then probably Boise State is what I'm thinking right now.
I'm not even sure if that adds up to twelve.
It's kind of early. But generally, give me a little
bit of.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Grace to here, fellas, But otherwise, yeah, I generally that's
kind of how I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The playoff field.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, if you want us to add one more team
for you, we can always work that out for it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Throw another a season.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think you're only a fifteen. Let's put an acc
team in there game.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Okay, great, Greg Sanky just sent a text at twelve.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
This year, I've already at the sixteen. No, I think
you're only at eleven. That is what I meant to say.
That backfired on me at backside.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Look, they've got till December first to come up with
a new playoffs system for next year, so we don't
want to give them any ideas.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah, how can we find the solid verbal in your
content and all the great work you guys are doing.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, hey, thanks for the invite. You can find me
at solid verbal dot com. Just google the Solid Verbal
College Football Podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, you can
find us. We call our community the forboler Hoods, so
all are welcome to join us.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's awesome, man, Well thanks for joining us. I'm glad
I could make you tingle this morning. My man, college
football it keep healing, it, keep tingling, and keep up
the good work. We appreciate you, all right, guys, have
going all right?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
That's tight, Hilding brand Dingling. It's been a while since
I've made anybody tangle much less. You know, man, I've
never met you made God, you make me tangle sometimes baby,
sometimes you got to take it.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm like, that's a good one. I get feeling it.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Okay, thank you for that, Ty hildon Brand solid verbal
guys do a great job there.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Their ACC hour long thing with the tiers is really cool. Yeah,
to listen to that. If you're a big ACC fan,
check it out. Find where your school is in the
mix and see what he has to say and what
they have to say about your ACC school. It really
is when you do start breaking down, like we had
the Hall of Fame game last night, for what that
was worth, bony, so you've got we've got fan fest
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this weekend, Panthers preseason game next Friday. But like when
you start breaking down the timeframe for college football, like
three weeks the week zero, Yeah, we are so close.
What is the This is a mind blot because I'm
so focused on what is the uh the main week
zero game this year?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We know what? Do you remember what it was? Iowa
State Kansas Farmageddon?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
But it's in Ireland though, right, Yeah, that's right, that's right,
that's really the I mean, Fresno State plays Kansas ACC
action though, because Stanford plays at Hawaii that week also,
oh there we go there we go. Did you coach
Wright getting under way early? Baby Danford underdogs Hawaii? Oh geez,
did you see that Michigan in the future Michigan? And
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is it which which Western Michigan Western Michigan are going
to play in Germany? Does that make any sense to Yeah?
They should probably just play that somewhere near Michigan.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I seriously play that in Yipsilany for gods, kalamazoo.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Where are they going.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
To Germany for that game? They're going to have a
game in Michigan or excuse me, in Germany. It involves Michigan.
Wouldn't they try to make it like a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Why are they.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Playing like the local game? It doesn't make any sense.
That's that was weird to me. Man, that was weird
to me. I'm a little worried college football going to
start doing way too you like, go overseas too many games?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like I want
these games on campuses.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Man, you know, I forgetting which, by the way, is
a great nickname for the Iowa State Kansas State game.
That belongs man, just me, maybe near a farm, like
a farm in the Midwest, not a farm in Ireland
where they're growing like you know they're they're growing like
whiskey and stuff. When we come back a sports movie
character draft based off the success and release of Happy
(13:04):
Gilmore to last week Sports Radio ninety seven WFZ.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ, Mac and Bone with You.
We got plenty of Panthers conversation to come up here
on this radio show. We got fan fest tomorrow night.
We'll be headed out there looking forward to that. We're
gonna talk coming up at eight forty five about the
fact that Steve Palozolo from Pro Football Focus put the
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Panthers on a list of teams that should be calling
Washington about Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
We buying this one, Mac, we gotta talk about that.
We have a messed up situation here. By the way,
I just noticed what's that Anie Shroff was at eight
twenty five this morning? Oh geez, I just noticed niche
fro We had it wrong in the grid sheeet. Oh damn,
So I guess we're calling him upright. Nobody want to
call a nies s trough right now. We screwed that
one up there, and I didn't notice till now. I
guess I guess the Panther shack get ready to take
place right now.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
All right, So I've had.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That is my fault. I didn't even think about it
till right now. All right, Well, hey say twenty five
right now. You saved us, Phony, you saved us. So
we'll we'll talk Panthers n back.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
We'll talk about this Terry McLaurin thing he's requested to
trade in Washington. We'll talk about that coming up at
eight forty five. We'll talk to a Niche Shruff of
the Carolina Panther Radio Network here in a second, and
our sports movie character draft will be in the nine
o'clock hour.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
All right, didn't even dawn on me when I was
reading that earlier. Well, I put it in the wrong spots.
My fault. I got to be on top of these
things and I didn't notice it, But I notice it now.
All right, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So anyway, we got two we have back to back
Panther segments for you here in the eight o'clock hour
on the Mack and Bone Show.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
If you miss any of the talk.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We talked about Bryce and what would a future Bryce
contract look like if he balls out. We talked about
Princely with a sassy another sassy moment on social media.
Check out all those things. Check out the hours you
missed we vented about Charlotte FC's just no complete no
show last night.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Check it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Check it out w f Z dot com, Apple, Spotify,
wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I've got a niche. He needs a minute to get
in the car.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
So Mac, don't you do best which talk out of
your ass for another minute?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you boy, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Don't tell you don't tell Mac to actually do that
because he's done that before. He needs Terristyle. He needs
another minute. Bone, he thought he was at nine o'clock too.
Maybe maybe he looked at our show grid schedule here
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Panther News today.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean they didn't practice yesterday, Bone, so it's not
like we got much. We do have Princely telling Dove
Climbing to shut the bleep up on Twitter. That did
happen because whoever this Dove Climbate account is run by
now basically said put up the clip of Lee get
getting shut down on one of the reps. In fairness,
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he has beaten Horn reps as well, but he showed
that rep where horn you know, shut down, Lee gets
route and dove climbing tweets a good thing.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
They drafted U Tetoroe McMillan. Yeah, so Princely basically told
him what he can do. Now you did say he
did take the tweet down there? It's gone now. Yeah,
someone someone got to him. But it was fun while lasting.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Man and JJ Janssen, the number five long snapper with
a seventy eight rating on Madden as well. Shout out
to America's long snapper as well.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
It's great that he's top five, but I don't know
how there's four above him when he hasn't missed. He's
only mangled one snap in sixteen years. They were working
the guy.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Maybe these other guys are one hundred percent you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, it's an age thing.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
They do.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You have as the old guy and they put the
younger guy.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think his old Britte bones can't snap that ball
back there anymore?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Is that? What's going on? All right? Are we good?
Are we clear?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Do we do we kill? Enough time? All right?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Let's all right, let's bring in our next guest, thee
play by play voice of Your Carolina Panthers, and he's
been out of training camp, so certainly a great authority,
always on this team, but definitely on what has been
going on at Panthers camp. He is a niche shruff
and he joins us on the Mac and Bone Show.
A niche, what's going on? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Man?
Speaker 6 (17:13):
See, this is what I love about your show. You
guys break down the fourth wall. You let everybody in
on the joke. Hey, he needed time to get in
the car to transfer the call. You guys say that stuff.
I think that's an underrated part of great talk radio,
breaking down that fourth wall, letting people look at who's
behind the curtain. That's why I love your show.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Hey, we appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I mean, and by the way, we let people peek
in a lot about our mistakes. So it's a thing
we've done for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, what the hell?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, let him know how flawed you are, and maybe
people feel bad for us and listen, you know, maybe
that's what they'll do, all right, A niche, let's talk.
Let's talk about it, man.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I want to start with Xavier league get because there
was that goofy tweet. I don't even know who runs
the Dove climate account. I'm not even sure you a
real person?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Is that a real person? That ever?
Speaker 6 (18:02):
A real person?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Bone? You're telling me the story about that. Yeah, we
didn't think it was a real person for years, and
then the guy we thought was a fake person sold
it to another fake person. Now you got money off
of it, So now we got a we got a
fake guy running the fake guy's account.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But he took us.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
He took that shot at Excel on Twitter, and uh,
I just I want you what have you seen from
Excel in camp? And listen, it's a crowded wide receiver room.
This is a good problem to have, that these guys
are gonna be fighting for targets. What's your feeling about
where he fits into this receiver mix?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, listen, I was looking at some of his uh
next level stats, if you will, from yesterday. You know,
the vast majority of the roots that he ran last
year were vertical go routes, deepposts, deep corners. You know,
the catch percentage on those will generally be lower than
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the intermediate.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And the short stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And then it was with X. But I think this is.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
A guy now who's had a full year to be
in the program, the system. Remember, he really only had
one big season in college. He's still very raw to
get him acclimated. So has he been overshadowed a little
bit through the first part of camp. Yes, because we've
been talking a lot about you know, t Mac catching
literally everything, and Renfro seems to have found the version
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of himself from three years ago. I don't think he's
making any waves, but.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I don't necessarily think.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That's a bad thing. And guys, you know this, we're
still in the early part of camp where everybody looks
great and everybody's feeling their best and living their best life.
Think you can get a little too caught up in
what you see and sometimes also what you don't see.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
In camp Anice you call college am pro, so this
question is probably perfect for you. One of the stories
of camp so far has been the emergence and reemergence
of Hunter Renfro. Early on, how much has he looked
like the guy that came out Clemson and made a
Pro Bowl for the Raiders in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, just talking to a few people around the team
and even Davos Sweeney, who was here the other day,
it seems that he had the health issue. He had
also right of colitis, which to my understanding, it's a
type of inflammatory disease that impacts one of your intestines.
He dropped to about one hundred and fifty pounds and
he was ready to hang it up. And from what
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I was told, Dabo talked him out of retirements and
give this one last try.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And it was Renfro who.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Reached out to the Panthers and Carolina looked at him
as a low risk, high reward type of guy. The
other players have said, hey, man, his route running it
is crisp. He's locking up guys, it's spot on. He
looks like the guy who caught one hundred passes and
had one thousand yards back in twenty twenty one. Now
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he's got a little bit of an injury. I'm sure
there's a little bit of rust.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Having not played last year on.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Right now, a guy who was probably seen as a
break glass in case of emergency type when camp started
looks like somebody with a real shot to make the team.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, what a story too, What a dang story that
would be if he can get anywhere near his previous
form you brought up. We're talking niche you're off play
by play voice of the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
He is in his car now. The connection is there,
all right? For people that were worried, people that were
worried about that niche. You just you brought up a
point too.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
There's only so much we can really take from these
camp practices, so we'll take it all with a grain
of salt. But your thoughts on this defense and how
improved this defense can be from last season, well.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Listen, last year I brought this up on a number
of shows. The defensive front needed twenty four starts from
Lebrian Ray and Shy Tuttle combined. I don't think that
it's gonna happen this year, and that's with all due
respect to those guys, but they're depth pieces on this
defensive line, and you can make the case this year
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they're either depth guys or guys that are really gonna
have to work to make the fifty three up front
With Derek Brown back, and even if Derek Brown is
seventy percent of what Derek Brown was a couple of
years ago, if it takes him a few weeks to
get back to form, that's still a starting caliber d
lineman in the NFL. Bobby Brown, to me is sort
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of that nose tackle that you want in a three
four defense. Shy Tunnel last year was playing that position
at three hundred pounds and he's being asked to eat
up two blockers. Well, now you got Bobby Brown who's
six four three point thirty, probably closer to three forty.
I interviewed him the other day of very much a
mountain of a man. And now ashat Robinson and you
guys have seen the pictures of Turk Wharton's squads. I
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mean this guy squatts. This guy squats close to eight
hundred pounds. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It hurts.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm just saying that out loud.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
It really does, especially for somebody like me who always.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Skips leg day. It's never more obvious than one of.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That training camp.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
But when you look at the way this defense is
supposed to function, right, there's so much better on the
defensive line. They should be better against the run. And
we talked a lot about the pass rush and the
lack thereof a season ago. Was it a personnel issue?
I think so, But also it was a situational issue
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right in the NFL. If you're giving up six yards
per play, on first down, which is what the Panthers
gave up last year. It's hard for the decordinator to
use the full menu on second and third down when
you have to respect the run.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You don't really have many.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Opportunities to dial up the blitz. When do you unleash
your pass rush when you're in passing downs when you
have the lead. In the second half, there wasn't a
lot of that. So again, this offense is going to
be better, which should get this defense more opportunities. I
think they're a lot better on that defensive line, a
lot deeper on the defensive line. You know, we're not
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talking about, Hey, the Panthers have the number whatever waiver
claim this year the way we were a year ago.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, I'm now on an entire Reddit thread just about
Turk Gorton's squad, so I've got to read this during
the break head just pictures of his squads on a
Reddit thread. This is where we landed on the show today. Mate.
We've talked a lot about the wide receivers being the storyline.
Mack and I are both excited to see JT. Sanders
at tight end in year two. How much of a
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leap do you think JT could make at that spot.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
You know, it's funny because last year I thought he
was really starting to hit his stride, and then in
the Kansas City game he suffered that neck injury.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
He was out.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
When he came back just wasn't really the same. I
think he had four catches in his last five games.
It was a low number. And this is again right
after he started to look like a guy who was
going to emerge.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He's lost weight.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
This is the second camp in a row with Tommy
Trumble being hurt. JT is getting all the first team reps.
Those are valuable. Listen, I think you can point to
that position being one of the bigger variables on offense.
Right who emerges at tight end. They believe in JT.
That got the Evans kid from Notre Dame. You're hoping
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Tommy Tremble you can come back at some point.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
To me, j C.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Sanders becomes a big part of this passing offense. He
showed you what he could do. He's athletic, he can
get open, he can catch the ball. What I want
to see from him this year, I think the next
step and he's talked about it becoming better in that
other phase, the blocking phase.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
All right, Deniche, Hey, we appreciate you joining us. Man,
if you ever want to feel good. By the way,
about your legs and the muscles you have, stand next
to Bone and I at training camp. We got little
Those are four little birdie legs that'll be right near yours,
making yours look good.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Brother.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
We're gonna have to arrange that, and we're gonna have
to arrange a photo op too.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Now, you guys did a great stream the other day.
Want to give you kudos. You and Zochie did a
great job of covering Panther camp, so thank you for that.
I fans appreciate that as well.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Nie.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
By the way, there's gonna be another stream today about.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Ten to fifteen.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Tom Lugan, Bill and I will kind of talk through
some physician groups and we'll see some one on one battles,
O line defense. We'll see corners and wide receivers. So
about ten to fifteen, Twitter YouTube, Panthers dot Com. Another
live stream of practice.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Another big quad guy, Luke's Big Quad Guy, Big Quad guy.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
All right, Denie, appreciate you brother, keep doing good work.
See you guys. All right, there you go.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
That is a niche Shruff, Carolina panther Radio Network, I.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Know that Turk Wharton's legs are bigger than Bryce Young.
Stop sending those endplaces.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh g G.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
See there you see the ones about Willie. I missed
that one as a Texan. It says, so I take
it to mean that Turk Wharton's legs are stronger than
Willie Pea's. Really, and then panther Bo panther Bo says, Okay,
so Turk can squat eight hundred, but what's that on
the leg press? And I responded by saying four to
seventy five. But I'm not sure that's the way it works.
(27:07):
I think you can with leg press way more than
you could squat, right, yeah, I think because it's the
old deal there.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
He but his God, you're annoying today.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Everybody's he's talking to himself, everybody straight out of where
that came from. Everybody's three hundred pounds right in the
NFL is proportioned a little different, right, and like you
look at like Shy Tuttle's three hundred proportioned way different
than Turks. Turks is like all solid muscle, and you're right,
like seventy percent of the muscle or.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Like legs man like, I don't know, I'm not sure
how you it's not height, it's it's how do you
move that guy with the legs like that?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
He just anchors him with him big old things man.
So anyway, again, ten to fifteen to day for the
Niche and Lukes a niechan Zokie did it the other day.
There is no TV broadcast of fan Fest tomorrow, and
I normally it's on TV. Sometimes we don't always see
a lot, but it is on TV tomorrow. Is not
televised this year or so maybe they'll do something. I'm
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not sure, but it is not on TV tomorrow. It
sounds like maybe it's not.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I guess it's not a walkthrough if they're headed, if
they're like broadcasting and he's talking about hey, one on
ones and stuff like that. Because I thought original the
original schedule said today walk through. Yeah, And I'm telling you, man,
I think this fan Fest.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You don't bring out louse for a walkthrough. He don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Five dollars for a ticket five dollars for a ticket
to fan Fest, And it sounds like this will might
be the most entertaining one since Cam used to be
out there, you know, leading cheers like this one is,
in the words of Dave Canal, is going to include
actual football, a lot of eleven on eleven with Pats,
So we're going tomorrow. It sounds like this thing is
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going to be a ramped up, you know, version of
the normal fan.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Aniche did ask turk Warton about his leg press. He'd
send me a text and say quote he said, whatever
the machine goes to or how many plates could fit
on it. Ah, we know about fitting plates on someday
matter normally it's like our cracker barrel sprites definitely. When
we come back here on the mac in Bone Show
on this Football Friday, a national NFL guy says the
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Panther should look to trade for another t mac Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We discussed that sports radio.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z shout out to
q that who listened to the entire Niche Sharoff interview
and concluded, sounds like an eleven win team.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
To me, hey man, it's it's in the eye of
the beholder. How do you I guess the ear of
the beholder, Because it's radio, it's in the ear of
the beholder. Man, how do you think it sounds?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But I know that interview was more upbeat than Warren
Sharp and Aaron Shotts a couple of weeks ago, certainly,
But thanks to a Niche for joining us on the show.
And he'll be calling the game next week. Next Friday night,
Bone will be the preseason opener at home against the Browns.
So you know what's coming after fan Fest? What's coming
after fan Fest are the questions todave Canalis, are.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You gonna play Bryce?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You're gonna play the starters?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
And the what day is the joint session next week?
Is that on Wednesday? And where they are the day before?
Will make sure I got it right? So where there
Tuesday in the joint sessions on Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah? Okyeah?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So things are picking up, man, We're getting to these
things right, These like landmarks during the preseason, getting to
fan Fest and a joint practice and the first you
know game it's it's happening, man.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
It is happening. I may have to go Mac to
try to beat the heat. I'm not sure what it
will be next week, but I may have to make
that decision now. To be a member the Bobby Bowden
Hate used to wear the old Bobby Bowden hat to
he'd wear to block out the sun.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, you go put one of the bigger hats, and they.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Have to go big old straw hat. It was only
a matter of time. You support me if I have
to go big old straw hat, Dude, I've seen you
struggle out there. Anything that can keep the sun off you, man,
I will.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
If you want to go put a ten up for
yourself out there, I will support that as well.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, will you go big straw hat with me. I
don't think I can never rock that. I can't do
that thing. I've got a scarecrow.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I've got one of my brother in laws now he's
he's got a bald dome, so he needs to cover
that thing fit.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
He can speak to that whole plight. But like he
rocks the like bucket hats. Yeah, and he can pull
it off.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
There is no way in hell I'm putting the Gilligan
hat on, like I just I can't pull that crap off.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Man sports team.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Baseball hat, Like that's the only kind of hat I
can wear. I'll tell you this, though, you ain't gonna
get access to that freezer over there. They got at
the practice field. I saw what happened yesterday at the
freezer when they hit like a certain break in practice. Dude,
they're like they are like like Joe Person said to me,
it's like a clown car they I'm telling you right now,
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I don't know how they must.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Be setting records. I don't know how they have that
many humans that can fit it. That little ice box
that got over there, and sure enough coach Canalis goes right.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
In with about forty players. It's the craziest thing.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
What if I dress up mac like, I wear the
outfits that like the uh the staff wears, not necessarily
the coaches, but the guys that go retrieve the balls.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I wear the shorts and the shirt, and then I
just worked my way right into the freeze. That's not
a bad plan. That's not a bad plan. If only
we had a friend out there, but that he just
let us into the freezer. I'll friend that long staffs JJ.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You got the freezer key?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Do they make your copy of that freezer key for me?
Did they JJ in there? All right?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Let's say, let's uh, I don't is he sweaty enough?
I don't think he's sweaty enough to have to go
in there, and let's those long games get really heated.
All right, let's talk about this McLaurin thing. I have
to be honest. I like, I saw that mc clorin
requested a trade, and my first thought had nothing to
do with Carolina Panthers. My first thought was, what the
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hell is Washington doing? I just you have to sign
this guy, like you are in a window to win now,
Jayden Daniels, is that special? You were in the final
four of the NFL last year? What are you doing
even messing around with this? Like, I just I just
don't understand it. You've been waiting what almost thirty plus
years to be relevant and to be a contender again consistently.
(33:29):
You now are one of your team leaders. Why why
would you let this mess up the path that you're
on because you're a you could be in a championship
window here for your team. I don't get mess this up.
I don't get it at all. Like, how did we
how they even get here?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
With that said, there it was on Twitter Steve Palizolo
from Pro Football Focus with a list of teams that
should be contacting Washington because Terry McLaurin requested a trade,
and because he's not practicing and they are at a contract,
impass and Steve Alozolo puts the Panthers on the list
of teams that should be contacting the Washington commanders. We've
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been sitting here talking about the increased depth a wide receiver.
Now sure, I've questioned, hey, are any of these guys
ready to be number one?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Any of the young guys ready to be his? Tamag
going to be number one right away? Is he eventually
going to be a number one? But why on Earth
Bone would we be calling? I mean, y'all with me.
Panther fans on this. Panther fans usually Bone want to
acquire every player available. I don't even think the Panther
fans on Twitter really want to go. I mean, this
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just doesn't feel like like something that we need to
be doing at all, not really any way, shape or form.
Does this make sense for the roster? You just invested
two number one picks on wide outs. What those guys develop?
You've got vets here. And then there's the money side
of it, right where you're gonna have to give up
stuff to get and you're gonna have to pay Terry McLaurin.
(34:58):
You've ready got to pay Brice down the line. We
talked about that in the second hour today. You got
to figure out icky situation. You ready have a modent
situation there at the other tackle spot. It just doesn't
make sense from the roster of where you are, and
it doesn't make sense financially to pay a thirty year
old who's very good, but you're not in that position
yet right now, to have to go get him to
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put you over the top. No, no, no, those are
the moves we've seen in the past that sometimes gets
you in trouble. From a cap standpoint, I wouldn't go
near that. I just like mccorm but I wouldn't go
near that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Like where we're.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
At as a team right is still a developmental team.
You have acquired two first round wide receivers in the
last two years. Coach them up, develop them. Let's see
what happens. And listen.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Somebody has texted in said mac never wants to make
a big move. There will be a time, and if
this rebuild keeps working bone, there will be a time
and then not too far off distant future or I
will be on here saying go for that guy.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
That guy can make it be a big difference. So
you could be that guy away from getting to this
point or whatever or being a contender and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
It just it doesn't make sense to make big moves
like that's why I didn't want to make the Metcalf move,
Like it doesn't make sense to me where we're at
to make the big moves. Because you said a lot
not only doesn't make sense at wide receiver when you
just drafted two guys in the last two years first.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Round, you see a lot. It's about like the next year,
like this is the year before the year. How about
a year from now, we see how t mag did
as a rookie. We see where the vets are and
what the roster looks like. We see if Excel made
a leap or is it going to be like, oh,
there might need to be more added. Let's go a
year from now, see where they are. If they're getting close.
(36:41):
They will get eventually close to that big move spot
that you're talking about, but it's not now. Don't handicap
yourself for the future because you made a move before
you were ready to make that move.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Blue Horseshoe says, we need a linebacker eight oh three
number says Uh, if we're bringing in anyone, it needs
to be someone like a Santi Samuel Jr. Yeah, veteran
corner although I have really really taken to my man
show Smith Wade. But you still like, are Bartholomew and
Thornton good enough depth pieces to be corners four and five?
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Or do you want to improve that with a veteran?
But it's interesting bone not one texter is saying go
after Terry McLaurin. Yeah, like so, And that's really that's
really a telling sign with the text line doesn't want somebody.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Panther fans are coveting big name additions more than Fitty
is coveting a lady like we are.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
We are one star, big name.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Covenant fan base, and I'm sure they all are so
like it just doesn't fit.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Let this wide receiving group battle it out in camp.
Let's pick the best guys and let's figure out the mix.
We have a very interesting mix bone between three young guys.
I didn't even mention Coker in that whole thing. You
also want to see Coker develop two because there's there's
a lot of times last year where he looked better nextel.
Even so, let the three young guys develop. I'm really
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hoping Renfro makes it. I'm really starting to think he
is bone. You've got Renfro and Thiling his steady veterans.
You got Jimmy Horn. How did you mention Horn? You
got another young guy?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Like, why would this team take snaps away from those
young guys and pay like thirty million dollars a year Alo, Like,
that's that's not where we're at. Man, you also have
an offensive line that's great with the run, and you
want to run the football with two guys. I ran
for a thousand yards? Lie, Yeah, definitely, definitely. So that
was weird. This dude says, why are you even addressing this?
This Steve guy is an idiot. He's actually not, though,
(38:32):
that's so weird about it. Like we've had him on
the show a bunch. He knows football.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Him and Sam Monson do a really good podcast, but
this one is one where it's like, I don't know
what his thinking is because it just doesn't really fit
any It doesn't fit our roster needs, No, it doesn't
fit our time frame.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
We have too many good offensive players right now for
Terry mccluorr. And that's where that's where this franchises are
right now. No, he's a great player, but it's not
the time, or the or the fit roster wise.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's not even the POSSI I could see if there's
a star linebacker that like requests a trade or something,
then then I guarantee you we'd be getting texts because
then the question wouldn't be of need, it would be
of timing.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Is it the right time and even make a big move.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Or do you just want Trevin Wallace to play be
Bob Burns moving to play b Bob brings up something
I was thinking about too when that news broke yesterday.
It's amazing how quickly a franchise MAC can go from
we feel like they're in the right direction to uh
uh oh, what's going on there? And normally it starts
with the wide reason how many wide receivers MAC are
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always unhappy in That happens a time. Everywhere you look,
there's always a wide out that's upset about something. AJ
Brown was upset last year and the year they won
a champion. That's why he decided to read his book. Man.
I had to read his book on the silne Wide
receivers are not often a happy camper.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You talk about needy, you talk about wanting and coveting
wide receivers. Give me the ball, give me the contract,
give me this, give me that. AC says Washington hasn't
been relevant in Flounder or fitties and entire life.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's probably factual.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
That's bone and I's point, like they've barely been relevant school.
Why are you playing contract games with the number one
target for your young star receiver. It doesn't make sense.
And that's where like to me and I don't know,
maybe we should have focused more on the Washington things.
I know we got Washington fans here, but so I
know some of y'all are Washington fans. Like that would
drive me crazy if I was a commander's man. Just
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drive me, Craig. But that should be their issue to
worry about. Panthers. We got our own things to worry about, like, Hey,
what what linebackers are cut? Or what is there a
safety cut? Those are the things I think we'll be
looking at. Washington had a heck of a run when
I was younger in the eighties, and they won a
championship when I was in I believe that was second
grade ninety ninety one, early nine. Yeah, they were. They
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were really irrelevant when I was a small child. You're
talking about Fidtian and Flounder's wife. They've barely been relevant
since I was a second grade?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
And so why are they? Why are they messing around
with this?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Now? I thought Washington was bad management stuff, an ownership
and all. I thought Washington was going in a completely
different direction to be in a well run team.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Shut it up? What do you think? Ninety two to oh,
first to name first to name? Now this?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah, if they would change that name back, they'd probably
pay him.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
But what do I know? Oh my god, did you
just took him out of nowhere?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Did you see the ninety two moment with Harrison Buker
at the White House? Yes?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I didn't see it. What happened?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Oh my god. We'll have to play the clerk later.
We'll have to play you in a moment. He's a
big fan apparently of Harrison Bunker. We'll play that, Lester.
I guess what's next. It's the sports movie character draft.
Oh yeah, maybe now we do it. Now we go,
Ma's got the first pick in our sports sports movie
character draft. What direction will Matt go and find out
next Sports Radio
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My freem team Bone.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What's up the fun?
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Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ eight o'clockers, Welcome aboard.
We move on from all the drama surrounding Captain Content
Fitty Marlowe. Just drama just surrounding the man. And right
now we're going to talk about our favorite drama of
them all, which is the world of football and specifically
college football. We got to continue to preview the season,
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get thoughts from other folks that know the game and
love the game out there. And our next guest is
a part of the Solid Verbal podcast. Those guys do
a great job. Ty Hildenbrandt joins us here on the
Mack and Bone Show as we count down the days
four weeks right now to week one, only three to
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week zero?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Ty, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I assume you are ready for football season. I am
tingling as you are saying this, you're doing this lead
in I am tingling. Yes, a matter of weeks. It's
finally about to be here. I'm excited, guys, Thank you
for having me. Hey man, we feel like our next topic,
what gives you the football tingles?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We're we're gonna write that down. I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We were talking earlier about some of these big Week
one matchups, specifically for the ACC. It's no secret anybody
tie the ACC is fighting for respect and they got
to actually win some of these games to start to
get it. The biggest one involving an ACC team is
that Clemson LSU game. Have you how much have you
thought about that Week one matchup? Do you, like, have
(01:55):
Aleen already a month out? What are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I'm all in on Clemson this year, and you know so,
probably to my detriment, just because it's I think blinded
me a little bit from other things maybe that are
going on in a conference. But look, I mean everyone's
going to be focused on that game to your point, right,
Everyone's going to be focused on that big one LSU
(02:18):
coming to town. Obviously there's real national significance there in
terms of the playoffs. It'll be an early barometer for
where both conferences are at adder near the top. So
I think that will be certainly very very important. But
to the broader point, Yeah, the ACC, if it wants to,
I guess, pick up where it left off last year
where it got two playoff teams in needs to show
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out in Week one and there gonna be some opportunities
to do that. I mean, they're not all as high
profile as LSU at Clemson. I think that one will
get most of the attention, but even games like Syracuse
against Tennessee, Like can Syracuse hold its own against Tennessee?
That might have some bearing on how people feel about
the conference, at least at the start of September. Alabama
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coming to town against Florida State. Florida State trying to
get up off the bat from last season, needs to
kind of show itself a worthy competitor for Alabama. So
there's gonna be plenty of opportunities here beyond that one
at the very top. But yeah, I'm Clemson's like my
preseason number one team. I'm going all in on Clemson.
I've got them winning that one in Week one against
LSU at home.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
So when you say you're all in you have them
number one, Does that mean that that Clemson is your
national title pack this year?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I haven't gotten that far quite yet in my predictions.
I'm still working my way through the SEC. But let's
put it this way, I'd be very surprised if Clemson
weren't the ACC title winner, and if they weren't going
into the playoffs with a whole head of steam. I mean,
they've got I think, a schedule that works in their favor.
They've probably got a roster that stuff that's the most
returning production of anybody in the country. There's a lot
(03:54):
of reason to feel really good about the Tigers. So
they will absolutely be in that conversation and in that
field of twelve. I need to think a little bit
more deeply about how far I have them going.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Now, you guys did a great tiers list on the
Solid Verbal. You did an hour long podcast previewing the
ACC season. I believe it was you tie that had
a team as the second best team in the conference.
I don't think anybody else has. Do you want to
explain who that is and your reasoning behind your second
best team?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I can, And let me just preface it by saying,
anytime you kind of go out in a limb and
don't realize you're going out in a limb until you
look at what everyone else has projected. Yeah, it's not
a great feeling, to be honest with you, but I'm
on Pitt. I'm on Pitt. I like Pitt.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
This year.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Pitt misses both Clemson and SMU on their schedule, they
get Louisville and Miami at home, and I think I
am just sort of enchanted by the duo of Eli
Holstein and a really solid running game. Look, it's a
team that I think last season specifically has a lot
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it needs to clean up. For sure, it is not
by any means they finished product. But I think what
we saw from Holstein once he started to come into
his own left me with optimism that the offense is
going to get better this season if they can figure
out a way to get a little bit of a
pass rush, if they can just make marginal improvements across
the board, I think it's a really interesting case in
(05:24):
this year's ACC season. So yeah, it wasn't so much
a projection to just be different. I genuinely feel like
Pitt is going to have a good season and I'm
excited to see what they've got.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
All Right, let's talk, because you guys did this whole
episode on You Know ACC and previewing the ACC Solid
Verbal podcast. Everybody look for it, And let's talk about
where you're at on Bill Belichi, the Bill Belichick experience
at UNC. Once they actually get on the field and
get out of the headlines, what do you expect from
(05:58):
the tar heels.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, it's hard to say.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I mean, nobody seems to have a clue as to
what any of this is going to look like. And
that doesn't mean, you know, whether you're talking about a
product in the field or there nothing both behind the scenes.
You know, We've interviewed North Carolina people on our show
and everybody just sort of shrugs. Right. So, even though
there is a ton new on defense, I'd be stunned
(06:22):
if Bill Belichick didn't find some way to improve that
side of the ball, especially given this schedule. This is
a team that gave up a ton of big plays
last season, especially through the air, and so I think
he will find some ways to clean that up. I
also like Geo Lopez, who they bring over from South Alabama,
so I think there are some concepts that they can
mix in that will make them look a little bit
(06:43):
different on offense. I wouldn't want to touch the win
total with like a ten foot poll. I think it's
at seven and a half at least the last time
I checked, because I think first and foremost, you've got
somebody like a Bill Belichick who's got so much knowledge.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
About the game.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
It would be a very big prize to me if
you just came in there and suddenly the whole thing
bottoms out and it's a full on disaster. Even though
the pr campaign in the offseason has sort of been out,
I still expect this is going to be a pretty
good team with a good schedule. That might take a
little bit of time with forty one or fifty one
transfers in or fifty one out, forty one in excuse me,
(07:21):
to kind of get their guys and figure out who
their playmakers are. But I think they're set up well
enough that this is potentially, you know, an eight and
four of all things go well, a nine and three
kind of team.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Hi, what's your expectation for South Carolina and the game?
Cos this year? Of all the many teams we talk about,
it feels like they have the widest range in people's opinion.
Some have them you know, they could be a top
forty forty five team. Some think they might be a
playoff team. What's the what's the ti Hide brand assessment
of what we might see from the game cox this year?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, I mean South Carolina is an interesting case, right
because you've got big names like Lenora Sellers, who people
are gonna know come draft time, and Dylan Stewart another
one who might be the best pass rusher in the country,
and a guy like in Nick Harber who's just a
freak athlete. I think those three guys distract from the
fact that this team just lost an absolute ton on
defense last year, and I think they're gonna be better
(08:16):
on offense, They're probably gonna be worse on defense if
they brutal schedule with six of their last seven potentially
against top fifteen caliber teams. I've got them pretty far down.
I'm looking at my list here, maybe like fifth, sixth,
seventh from the bottom in the SEC. I think, like
most South Carolina teams under Shane Beemer, they will be plucky.
(08:37):
They are always the kind of team that can knock
you off if you don't get their full attention. But
I think the underlying thing with South Carolina is that
they're very exciting on that top line with some of
the athletes that they have, but the depth isn't there otherwise.
So I'm not quite as bullish on South Carolina as
I expected to be before I started doing all my research.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
So do you have the ACC with multiple playoff teams?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Again?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
How many playoff teams would you would you give the
ACC if you had to do a preseason? You know,
guess I was thinking about this the other day. I've
got him with one right now, I've got him with
one as Clemson. I think the way that it broke
out for me, I have or I'm going to have
four in the SEC, three in the Big Ten, probably
(09:24):
two in the Big twelve, one in the ACC Notre Dame,
and then probably Boise State is what I'm thinking right now.
I'm not even sure if that adds up to twelve.
It's kind of early. But generally, give me a little
bit of.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Grace to here, fellas, But otherwise, yeah, I generally that's
kind of how I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The playoff field.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, if you want us to add one more team
for you, we can always work that out for it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Throw another a season.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think you're only a fifteen. Let's put an acc
team in there game.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Okay, great, Greg Sanky just sent a text at twelve.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
This year, I've already at the sixteen. No, I think
you're only at eleven. That is what I meant to say.
That backfired on me at backside.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Look, they've got till December first to come up with
a new playoffs system for next year, so we don't
want to give them any ideas.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah, how can we find the solid verbal in your
content and all the great work you guys are doing.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, hey, thanks for the invite. You can find me
at solid verbal dot com. Just google the Solid Verbal
College Football Podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, you can
find us. We call our community the forboler Hoods, so
all are welcome to join us.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's awesome, man, Well thanks for joining us. I'm glad
I could make you tingle this morning. My man, college
football it keep healing, it, keep tingling, and keep up
the good work. We appreciate you, all right, guys, have
going all right?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
That's tight, Hilding brand Dingling. It's been a while since
I've made anybody tangle much less. You know, man, I've
never met you made God, you make me tangle sometimes baby,
sometimes you got to take it.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm like, that's a good one. I get feeling it.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Okay, thank you for that, Ty hildon Brand solid verbal
guys do a great job there.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Their ACC hour long thing with the tiers is really cool. Yeah,
to listen to that. If you're a big ACC fan,
check it out. Find where your school is in the
mix and see what he has to say and what
they have to say about your ACC school. It really
is when you do start breaking down, like we had
the Hall of Fame game last night, for what that
was worth, bony, so you've got we've got fan fest
(11:23):
this weekend, Panthers preseason game next Friday. But like when
you start breaking down the timeframe for college football, like
three weeks the week zero, Yeah, we are so close.
What is the This is a mind blot because I'm
so focused on what is the uh the main week
zero game this year?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We know what? Do you remember what it was? Iowa
State Kansas Farmageddon?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
But it's in Ireland though, right, Yeah, that's right, that's right,
that's really the I mean, Fresno State plays Kansas ACC
action though, because Stanford plays at Hawaii that week also,
oh there we go there we go. Did you coach
Wright getting under way early? Baby Danford underdogs Hawaii? Oh geez,
did you see that Michigan in the future Michigan? And
(12:08):
is it which which Western Michigan Western Michigan are going
to play in Germany? Does that make any sense to Yeah?
They should probably just play that somewhere near Michigan.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I seriously play that in Yipsilany for gods, kalamazoo.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Where are they going.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
To Germany for that game? They're going to have a
game in Michigan or excuse me, in Germany. It involves Michigan.
Wouldn't they try to make it like a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Why are they.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Playing like the local game? It doesn't make any sense.
That's that was weird to me. Man, that was weird
to me. I'm a little worried college football going to
start doing way too you like, go overseas too many games?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like I want
these games on campuses.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Man, you know, I forgetting which, by the way, is
a great nickname for the Iowa State Kansas State game.
That belongs man, just me, maybe near a farm, like
a farm in the Midwest, not a farm in Ireland
where they're growing like you know they're they're growing like
whiskey and stuff. When we come back a sports movie
character draft based off the success and release of Happy
(13:04):
Gilmore to last week Sports Radio ninety seven WFZ.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ, Mac and Bone with You.
We got plenty of Panthers conversation to come up here
on this radio show. We got fan fest tomorrow night.
We'll be headed out there looking forward to that. We're
gonna talk coming up at eight forty five about the
fact that Steve Palozolo from Pro Football Focus put the
(13:45):
Panthers on a list of teams that should be calling
Washington about Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
We buying this one, Mac, we gotta talk about that.
We have a messed up situation here. By the way,
I just noticed what's that Anie Shroff was at eight
twenty five this morning? Oh geez, I just noticed niche
fro We had it wrong in the grid sheeet. Oh damn,
So I guess we're calling him upright. Nobody want to
call a nies s trough right now. We screwed that
one up there, and I didn't notice till now. I
guess I guess the Panther shack get ready to take
place right now.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
All right, So I've had.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That is my fault. I didn't even think about it
till right now. All right, Well, hey say twenty five
right now. You saved us, Phony, you saved us. So
we'll we'll talk Panthers n back.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
We'll talk about this Terry McLaurin thing he's requested to
trade in Washington. We'll talk about that coming up at
eight forty five. We'll talk to a Niche Shruff of
the Carolina Panther Radio Network here in a second, and
our sports movie character draft will be in the nine
o'clock hour.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
All right, didn't even dawn on me when I was
reading that earlier. Well, I put it in the wrong spots.
My fault. I got to be on top of these
things and I didn't notice it, But I notice it now.
All right, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So anyway, we got two we have back to back
Panther segments for you here in the eight o'clock hour
on the Mack and Bone Show.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
If you miss any of the talk.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We talked about Bryce and what would a future Bryce
contract look like if he balls out. We talked about
Princely with a sassy another sassy moment on social media.
Check out all those things. Check out the hours you
missed we vented about Charlotte FC's just no complete no
show last night.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Check it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Check it out w f Z dot com, Apple, Spotify,
wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I've got a niche. He needs a minute to get
in the car.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
So Mac, don't you do best which talk out of
your ass for another minute?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you boy, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Don't tell you don't tell Mac to actually do that
because he's done that before. He needs Terristyle. He needs
another minute. Bone, he thought he was at nine o'clock too.
Maybe maybe he looked at our show grid schedule here
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Panther News today.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean they didn't practice yesterday, Bone, so it's not
like we got much. We do have Princely telling Dove
Climbing to shut the bleep up on Twitter. That did
happen because whoever this Dove Climbate account is run by
now basically said put up the clip of Lee get
getting shut down on one of the reps. In fairness,
(16:00):
he has beaten Horn reps as well, but he showed
that rep where horn you know, shut down, Lee gets
route and dove climbing tweets a good thing.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
They drafted U Tetoroe McMillan. Yeah, so Princely basically told
him what he can do. Now you did say he
did take the tweet down there? It's gone now. Yeah,
someone someone got to him. But it was fun while lasting.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Man and JJ Janssen, the number five long snapper with
a seventy eight rating on Madden as well. Shout out
to America's long snapper as well.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
It's great that he's top five, but I don't know
how there's four above him when he hasn't missed. He's
only mangled one snap in sixteen years. They were working
the guy.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Maybe these other guys are one hundred percent you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, it's an age thing.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
They do.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You have as the old guy and they put the
younger guy.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think his old Britte bones can't snap that ball
back there anymore?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Is that? What's going on? All right? Are we good?
Are we clear?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Do we do we kill? Enough time? All right?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Let's all right, let's bring in our next guest, thee
play by play voice of Your Carolina Panthers, and he's
been out of training camp, so certainly a great authority,
always on this team, but definitely on what has been
going on at Panthers camp. He is a niche shruff
and he joins us on the Mac and Bone Show.
A niche, what's going on? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Man?
Speaker 6 (17:13):
See, this is what I love about your show. You
guys break down the fourth wall. You let everybody in
on the joke. Hey, he needed time to get in
the car to transfer the call. You guys say that stuff.
I think that's an underrated part of great talk radio,
breaking down that fourth wall, letting people look at who's
behind the curtain. That's why I love your show.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Hey, we appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I mean, and by the way, we let people peek
in a lot about our mistakes. So it's a thing
we've done for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, what the hell?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, let him know how flawed you are, and maybe
people feel bad for us and listen, you know, maybe
that's what they'll do, all right, A niche, let's talk.
Let's talk about it, man.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I want to start with Xavier league get because there
was that goofy tweet. I don't even know who runs
the Dove climate account. I'm not even sure you a
real person?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Is that a real person? That ever?
Speaker 6 (18:02):
A real person?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Bone? You're telling me the story about that. Yeah, we
didn't think it was a real person for years, and
then the guy we thought was a fake person sold
it to another fake person. Now you got money off
of it, So now we got a we got a
fake guy running the fake guy's account.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But he took us.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
He took that shot at Excel on Twitter, and uh,
I just I want you what have you seen from
Excel in camp? And listen, it's a crowded wide receiver room.
This is a good problem to have, that these guys
are gonna be fighting for targets. What's your feeling about
where he fits into this receiver mix?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, listen, I was looking at some of his uh
next level stats, if you will, from yesterday. You know,
the vast majority of the roots that he ran last
year were vertical go routes, deepposts, deep corners. You know,
the catch percentage on those will generally be lower than
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the intermediate.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And the short stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And then it was with X. But I think this is.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
A guy now who's had a full year to be
in the program, the system. Remember, he really only had
one big season in college. He's still very raw to
get him acclimated. So has he been overshadowed a little
bit through the first part of camp. Yes, because we've
been talking a lot about you know, t Mac catching
literally everything, and Renfro seems to have found the version
(19:23):
of himself from three years ago. I don't think he's
making any waves, but.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I don't necessarily think.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That's a bad thing. And guys, you know this, we're
still in the early part of camp where everybody looks
great and everybody's feeling their best and living their best life.
Think you can get a little too caught up in
what you see and sometimes also what you don't see.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
In camp Anice you call college am pro, so this
question is probably perfect for you. One of the stories
of camp so far has been the emergence and reemergence
of Hunter Renfro. Early on, how much has he looked
like the guy that came out Clemson and made a
Pro Bowl for the Raiders in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, just talking to a few people around the team
and even Davos Sweeney, who was here the other day,
it seems that he had the health issue. He had
also right of colitis, which to my understanding, it's a
type of inflammatory disease that impacts one of your intestines.
He dropped to about one hundred and fifty pounds and
he was ready to hang it up. And from what
(20:26):
I was told, Dabo talked him out of retirements and
give this one last try.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And it was Renfro who.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Reached out to the Panthers and Carolina looked at him
as a low risk, high reward type of guy. The
other players have said, hey, man, his route running it
is crisp. He's locking up guys, it's spot on. He
looks like the guy who caught one hundred passes and
had one thousand yards back in twenty twenty one. Now
(20:55):
he's got a little bit of an injury. I'm sure
there's a little bit of rust.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Having not played last year on.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Right now, a guy who was probably seen as a
break glass in case of emergency type when camp started
looks like somebody with a real shot to make the team.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, what a story too, What a dang story that
would be if he can get anywhere near his previous
form you brought up. We're talking niche you're off play
by play voice of the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
He is in his car now. The connection is there,
all right? For people that were worried, people that were
worried about that niche. You just you brought up a
point too.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
There's only so much we can really take from these
camp practices, so we'll take it all with a grain
of salt. But your thoughts on this defense and how
improved this defense can be from last season, well.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Listen, last year I brought this up on a number
of shows. The defensive front needed twenty four starts from
Lebrian Ray and Shy Tuttle combined. I don't think that
it's gonna happen this year, and that's with all due
respect to those guys, but they're depth pieces on this
defensive line, and you can make the case this year
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they're either depth guys or guys that are really gonna
have to work to make the fifty three up front
With Derek Brown back, and even if Derek Brown is
seventy percent of what Derek Brown was a couple of
years ago, if it takes him a few weeks to
get back to form, that's still a starting caliber d
lineman in the NFL. Bobby Brown, to me is sort
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of that nose tackle that you want in a three
four defense. Shy Tunnel last year was playing that position
at three hundred pounds and he's being asked to eat
up two blockers. Well, now you got Bobby Brown who's
six four three point thirty, probably closer to three forty.
I interviewed him the other day of very much a
mountain of a man. And now ashat Robinson and you
guys have seen the pictures of Turk Wharton's squads. I
(22:52):
mean this guy squatts. This guy squats close to eight
hundred pounds. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It hurts.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm just saying that out loud.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
It really does, especially for somebody like me who always.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Skips leg day. It's never more obvious than one of.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That training camp.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
But when you look at the way this defense is
supposed to function, right, there's so much better on the
defensive line. They should be better against the run. And
we talked a lot about the pass rush and the
lack thereof a season ago. Was it a personnel issue?
I think so, But also it was a situational issue
(23:27):
right in the NFL. If you're giving up six yards
per play, on first down, which is what the Panthers
gave up last year. It's hard for the decordinator to
use the full menu on second and third down when
you have to respect the run.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You don't really have many.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Opportunities to dial up the blitz. When do you unleash
your pass rush when you're in passing downs when you
have the lead. In the second half, there wasn't a
lot of that. So again, this offense is going to
be better, which should get this defense more opportunities. I
think they're a lot better on that defensive line, a
lot deeper on the defensive line. You know, we're not
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talking about, Hey, the Panthers have the number whatever waiver
claim this year the way we were a year ago.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, I'm now on an entire Reddit thread just about
Turk Gorton's squad, so I've got to read this during
the break head just pictures of his squads on a
Reddit thread. This is where we landed on the show today. Mate.
We've talked a lot about the wide receivers being the storyline.
Mack and I are both excited to see JT. Sanders
at tight end in year two. How much of a
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leap do you think JT could make at that spot.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
You know, it's funny because last year I thought he
was really starting to hit his stride, and then in
the Kansas City game he suffered that neck injury.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
He was out.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
When he came back just wasn't really the same. I
think he had four catches in his last five games.
It was a low number. And this is again right
after he started to look like a guy who was
going to emerge.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He's lost weight.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
This is the second camp in a row with Tommy
Trumble being hurt. JT is getting all the first team reps.
Those are valuable. Listen, I think you can point to
that position being one of the bigger variables on offense.
Right who emerges at tight end. They believe in JT.
That got the Evans kid from Notre Dame. You're hoping
(25:18):
Tommy Tremble you can come back at some point.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
To me, j C.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Sanders becomes a big part of this passing offense. He
showed you what he could do. He's athletic, he can
get open, he can catch the ball. What I want
to see from him this year, I think the next
step and he's talked about it becoming better in that
other phase, the blocking phase.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
All right, Deniche, Hey, we appreciate you joining us. Man,
if you ever want to feel good. By the way,
about your legs and the muscles you have, stand next
to Bone and I at training camp. We got little
Those are four little birdie legs that'll be right near yours,
making yours look good.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Brother.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
We're gonna have to arrange that, and we're gonna have
to arrange a photo op too.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Now, you guys did a great stream the other day.
Want to give you kudos. You and Zochie did a
great job of covering Panther camp, so thank you for that.
I fans appreciate that as well.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Nie.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
By the way, there's gonna be another stream today about.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Ten to fifteen.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Tom Lugan, Bill and I will kind of talk through
some physician groups and we'll see some one on one battles,
O line defense. We'll see corners and wide receivers. So
about ten to fifteen, Twitter YouTube, Panthers dot Com. Another
live stream of practice.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Another big quad guy, Luke's Big Quad Guy, Big Quad guy.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
All right, Denie, appreciate you brother, keep doing good work.
See you guys. All right, there you go.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
That is a niche Shruff, Carolina panther Radio Network, I.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Know that Turk Wharton's legs are bigger than Bryce Young.
Stop sending those endplaces.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh g G.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
See there you see the ones about Willie. I missed
that one as a Texan. It says, so I take
it to mean that Turk Wharton's legs are stronger than
Willie Pea's. Really, and then panther Bo panther Bo says, Okay,
so Turk can squat eight hundred, but what's that on
the leg press? And I responded by saying four to
seventy five. But I'm not sure that's the way it works.
(27:07):
I think you can with leg press way more than
you could squat, right, yeah, I think because it's the
old deal there.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
He but his God, you're annoying today.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Everybody's he's talking to himself, everybody straight out of where
that came from. Everybody's three hundred pounds right in the
NFL is proportioned a little different, right, and like you
look at like Shy Tuttle's three hundred proportioned way different
than Turks. Turks is like all solid muscle, and you're right,
like seventy percent of the muscle or.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Like legs man like, I don't know, I'm not sure
how you it's not height, it's it's how do you
move that guy with the legs like that?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
He just anchors him with him big old things man.
So anyway, again, ten to fifteen to day for the
Niche and Lukes a niechan Zokie did it the other day.
There is no TV broadcast of fan Fest tomorrow, and
I normally it's on TV. Sometimes we don't always see
a lot, but it is on TV tomorrow. Is not
televised this year or so maybe they'll do something. I'm
(28:04):
not sure, but it is not on TV tomorrow. It
sounds like maybe it's not.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I guess it's not a walkthrough if they're headed, if
they're like broadcasting and he's talking about hey, one on
ones and stuff like that. Because I thought original the
original schedule said today walk through. Yeah, And I'm telling you, man,
I think this fan Fest.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You don't bring out louse for a walkthrough. He don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Five dollars for a ticket five dollars for a ticket
to fan Fest, And it sounds like this will might
be the most entertaining one since Cam used to be
out there, you know, leading cheers like this one is,
in the words of Dave Canal, is going to include
actual football, a lot of eleven on eleven with Pats,
So we're going tomorrow. It sounds like this thing is
(28:45):
going to be a ramped up, you know, version of
the normal fan.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Aniche did ask turk Warton about his leg press. He'd
send me a text and say quote he said, whatever
the machine goes to or how many plates could fit
on it. Ah, we know about fitting plates on someday
matter normally it's like our cracker barrel sprites definitely. When
we come back here on the mac in Bone Show
on this Football Friday, a national NFL guy says the
(29:13):
Panther should look to trade for another t mac Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We discussed that sports radio.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z shout out to
q that who listened to the entire Niche Sharoff interview
and concluded, sounds like an eleven win team.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
To me, hey man, it's it's in the eye of
the beholder. How do you I guess the ear of
the beholder, Because it's radio, it's in the ear of
the beholder. Man, how do you think it sounds?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But I know that interview was more upbeat than Warren
Sharp and Aaron Shotts a couple of weeks ago, certainly,
But thanks to a Niche for joining us on the show.
And he'll be calling the game next week. Next Friday night,
Bone will be the preseason opener at home against the Browns.
So you know what's coming after fan Fest? What's coming
after fan Fest are the questions todave Canalis, are.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You gonna play Bryce?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You're gonna play the starters?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
And the what day is the joint session next week?
Is that on Wednesday? And where they are the day before?
Will make sure I got it right? So where there
Tuesday in the joint sessions on Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah? Okyeah?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So things are picking up, man, We're getting to these
things right, These like landmarks during the preseason, getting to
fan Fest and a joint practice and the first you
know game it's it's happening, man.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
It is happening. I may have to go Mac to
try to beat the heat. I'm not sure what it
will be next week, but I may have to make
that decision now. To be a member the Bobby Bowden
Hate used to wear the old Bobby Bowden hat to
he'd wear to block out the sun.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, you go put one of the bigger hats, and they.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Have to go big old straw hat. It was only
a matter of time. You support me if I have
to go big old straw hat, Dude, I've seen you
struggle out there. Anything that can keep the sun off you, man,
I will.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
If you want to go put a ten up for
yourself out there, I will support that as well.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, will you go big straw hat with me. I
don't think I can never rock that. I can't do
that thing. I've got a scarecrow.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I've got one of my brother in laws now he's
he's got a bald dome, so he needs to cover
that thing fit.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
He can speak to that whole plight. But like he
rocks the like bucket hats. Yeah, and he can pull
it off.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
There is no way in hell I'm putting the Gilligan
hat on, like I just I can't pull that crap off.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Man sports team.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Baseball hat, Like that's the only kind of hat I
can wear. I'll tell you this, though, you ain't gonna
get access to that freezer over there. They got at
the practice field. I saw what happened yesterday at the
freezer when they hit like a certain break in practice. Dude,
they're like they are like like Joe Person said to me,
it's like a clown car they I'm telling you right now,
(32:05):
I don't know how they must.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Be setting records. I don't know how they have that
many humans that can fit it. That little ice box
that got over there, and sure enough coach Canalis goes right.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
In with about forty players. It's the craziest thing.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
What if I dress up mac like, I wear the
outfits that like the uh the staff wears, not necessarily
the coaches, but the guys that go retrieve the balls.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I wear the shorts and the shirt, and then I
just worked my way right into the freeze. That's not
a bad plan. That's not a bad plan. If only
we had a friend out there, but that he just
let us into the freezer. I'll friend that long staffs JJ.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You got the freezer key?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Do they make your copy of that freezer key for me?
Did they JJ in there? All right?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Let's say, let's uh, I don't is he sweaty enough?
I don't think he's sweaty enough to have to go
in there, and let's those long games get really heated.
All right, let's talk about this McLaurin thing. I have
to be honest. I like, I saw that mc clorin
requested a trade, and my first thought had nothing to
do with Carolina Panthers. My first thought was, what the
(33:07):
hell is Washington doing? I just you have to sign
this guy, like you are in a window to win now,
Jayden Daniels, is that special? You were in the final
four of the NFL last year? What are you doing
even messing around with this? Like, I just I just
don't understand it. You've been waiting what almost thirty plus
years to be relevant and to be a contender again consistently.
(33:29):
You now are one of your team leaders. Why why
would you let this mess up the path that you're
on because you're a you could be in a championship
window here for your team. I don't get mess this up.
I don't get it at all. Like, how did we
how they even get here?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
With that said, there it was on Twitter Steve Palizolo
from Pro Football Focus with a list of teams that
should be contacting Washington because Terry McLaurin requested a trade,
and because he's not practicing and they are at a contract,
impass and Steve Alozolo puts the Panthers on the list
of teams that should be contacting the Washington commanders. We've
(34:07):
been sitting here talking about the increased depth a wide receiver.
Now sure, I've questioned, hey, are any of these guys
ready to be number one?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Any of the young guys ready to be his? Tamag
going to be number one right away? Is he eventually
going to be a number one? But why on Earth
Bone would we be calling? I mean, y'all with me.
Panther fans on this. Panther fans usually Bone want to
acquire every player available. I don't even think the Panther
fans on Twitter really want to go. I mean, this
(34:36):
just doesn't feel like like something that we need to
be doing at all, not really any way, shape or form.
Does this make sense for the roster? You just invested
two number one picks on wide outs. What those guys develop?
You've got vets here. And then there's the money side
of it, right where you're gonna have to give up
stuff to get and you're gonna have to pay Terry McLaurin.
(34:58):
You've ready got to pay Brice down the line. We
talked about that in the second hour today. You got
to figure out icky situation. You ready have a modent
situation there at the other tackle spot. It just doesn't
make sense from the roster of where you are, and
it doesn't make sense financially to pay a thirty year
old who's very good, but you're not in that position
yet right now, to have to go get him to
(35:20):
put you over the top. No, no, no, those are
the moves we've seen in the past that sometimes gets
you in trouble. From a cap standpoint, I wouldn't go
near that. I just like mccorm but I wouldn't go
near that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Like where we're.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
At as a team right is still a developmental team.
You have acquired two first round wide receivers in the
last two years. Coach them up, develop them. Let's see
what happens. And listen.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Somebody has texted in said mac never wants to make
a big move. There will be a time, and if
this rebuild keeps working bone, there will be a time
and then not too far off distant future or I
will be on here saying go for that guy.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
That guy can make it be a big difference. So
you could be that guy away from getting to this
point or whatever or being a contender and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
It just it doesn't make sense to make big moves
like that's why I didn't want to make the Metcalf move,
Like it doesn't make sense to me where we're at
to make the big moves. Because you said a lot
not only doesn't make sense at wide receiver when you
just drafted two guys in the last two years first.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Round, you see a lot. It's about like the next year,
like this is the year before the year. How about
a year from now, we see how t mag did
as a rookie. We see where the vets are and
what the roster looks like. We see if Excel made
a leap or is it going to be like, oh,
there might need to be more added. Let's go a
year from now, see where they are. If they're getting close.
(36:41):
They will get eventually close to that big move spot
that you're talking about, but it's not now. Don't handicap
yourself for the future because you made a move before
you were ready to make that move.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Blue Horseshoe says, we need a linebacker eight oh three
number says Uh, if we're bringing in anyone, it needs
to be someone like a Santi Samuel Jr. Yeah, veteran
corner although I have really really taken to my man
show Smith Wade. But you still like, are Bartholomew and
Thornton good enough depth pieces to be corners four and five?
(37:14):
Or do you want to improve that with a veteran?
But it's interesting bone not one texter is saying go
after Terry McLaurin. Yeah, like so, And that's really that's
really a telling sign with the text line doesn't want somebody.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Panther fans are coveting big name additions more than Fitty
is coveting a lady like we are.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
We are one star, big name.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Covenant fan base, and I'm sure they all are so
like it just doesn't fit.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Let this wide receiving group battle it out in camp.
Let's pick the best guys and let's figure out the mix.
We have a very interesting mix bone between three young guys.
I didn't even mention Coker in that whole thing. You
also want to see Coker develop two because there's there's
a lot of times last year where he looked better nextel.
Even so, let the three young guys develop. I'm really
(38:01):
hoping Renfro makes it. I'm really starting to think he
is bone. You've got Renfro and Thiling his steady veterans.
You got Jimmy Horn. How did you mention Horn? You
got another young guy?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Like, why would this team take snaps away from those
young guys and pay like thirty million dollars a year Alo, Like,
that's that's not where we're at. Man, you also have
an offensive line that's great with the run, and you
want to run the football with two guys. I ran
for a thousand yards? Lie, Yeah, definitely, definitely. So that
was weird. This dude says, why are you even addressing this?
This Steve guy is an idiot. He's actually not, though,
(38:32):
that's so weird about it. Like we've had him on
the show a bunch. He knows football.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Him and Sam Monson do a really good podcast, but
this one is one where it's like, I don't know
what his thinking is because it just doesn't really fit
any It doesn't fit our roster needs, No, it doesn't
fit our time frame.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
We have too many good offensive players right now for
Terry mccluorr. And that's where that's where this franchises are
right now. No, he's a great player, but it's not
the time, or the or the fit roster wise.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's not even the POSSI I could see if there's
a star linebacker that like requests a trade or something,
then then I guarantee you we'd be getting texts because
then the question wouldn't be of need, it would be
of timing.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Is it the right time and even make a big move.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Or do you just want Trevin Wallace to play be
Bob Burns moving to play b Bob brings up something
I was thinking about too when that news broke yesterday.
It's amazing how quickly a franchise MAC can go from
we feel like they're in the right direction to uh
uh oh, what's going on there? And normally it starts
with the wide reason how many wide receivers MAC are
(39:35):
always unhappy in That happens a time. Everywhere you look,
there's always a wide out that's upset about something. AJ
Brown was upset last year and the year they won
a champion. That's why he decided to read his book. Man.
I had to read his book on the silne Wide
receivers are not often a happy camper.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You talk about needy, you talk about wanting and coveting
wide receivers. Give me the ball, give me the contract,
give me this, give me that. AC says Washington hasn't
been relevant in Flounder or fitties and entire life.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's probably factual.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
That's bone and I's point, like they've barely been relevant school.
Why are you playing contract games with the number one
target for your young star receiver. It doesn't make sense.
And that's where like to me and I don't know,
maybe we should have focused more on the Washington things.
I know we got Washington fans here, but so I
know some of y'all are Washington fans. Like that would
drive me crazy if I was a commander's man. Just
(40:24):
drive me, Craig. But that should be their issue to
worry about. Panthers. We got our own things to worry about, like, Hey,
what what linebackers are cut? Or what is there a
safety cut? Those are the things I think we'll be
looking at. Washington had a heck of a run when
I was younger in the eighties, and they won a
championship when I was in I believe that was second
grade ninety ninety one, early nine. Yeah, they were. They
(40:46):
were really irrelevant when I was a small child. You're
talking about Fidtian and Flounder's wife. They've barely been relevant
since I was a second grade?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
And so why are they? Why are they messing around
with this?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Now? I thought Washington was bad management stuff, an ownership
and all. I thought Washington was going in a completely
different direction to be in a well run team.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Shut it up? What do you think? Ninety two to oh,
first to name first to name? Now this?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah, if they would change that name back, they'd probably
pay him.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
But what do I know? Oh my god, did you
just took him out of nowhere?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Did you see the ninety two moment with Harrison Buker
at the White House? Yes?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I didn't see it. What happened?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Oh my god. We'll have to play the clerk later.
We'll have to play you in a moment. He's a
big fan apparently of Harrison Bunker. We'll play that, Lester.
I guess what's next. It's the sports movie character draft.
Oh yeah, maybe now we do it. Now we go,
Ma's got the first pick in our sports sports movie
character draft. What direction will Matt go and find out
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