October 14, 2025 • 45 mins
In the third hour, Mac & Bone are joined by JJ Jansen for a special in-season edition of Snap Chats, as he talks about the back-to-back wins for the Panthers, Adam Gold talks about Belichick's future at UNC after a chaotic bye week, and they discuss how the Panthers should handle Chuba Hubbard & Rico Dowdle moving forward
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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with you. Spirits are high, baby, even on the text line,
spirits are high, bone man, It is a beautiful thing.
What the Carolina Panthers are doing to our attitude? A
chance to get over five hundred if they can beat
the Jets on Sunday. Sounds like Arrett Wilson will not
play thanks to a hyper extended niece.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You can throw that into the mix.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Meanwhile, sounds like the Panthers are getting the potentially bone
dy cavalry back right, I say it right that time,
cavalry cavalry back guys like Coker, Sanders, Wharton, Shuba. These
guys sound like they're pretty close. And we'll see what
the injury report looks like tomorrow and then shout out bone.
(01:08):
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One of my favorite IPAs of all time from Sycamore,
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So things are coming up Mackie right now, baby, Except
for that whole Penn State failure of a season and
firing my head coach.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Other than that, Bone, things are going great. Yeah, but
we don't know you can move on from that. You
get someone that's gonna move the program ahead.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Mac.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Do you think our next guest, mister Janssen knows how
potentially bad this segment could have been today for me.
I don't think he knows. Somebody knows what happened betray
this overcame that. But we need to explain to him
that my friendship with Greg Olsen, our friendship with Greg Olsen,
uh was in jeopardy because of JJ had a miss
(01:53):
snap on Sunday's game. Yeah, because of your big fat mouth.
You almost lost you must love. You probably would have
lost both. I was, I was nervous, and it was
over all right. Let's bring into man and.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Let's sell JJ James with a special in season snapchats
because the team has won three of four, they're three
and zero at home, and the vibes are apparently high
in the locker room, just like they are here.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What's up, JJ, how you doing man.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
First of all, don't make it sound like I'd only
come and talk to you because we're winning. I'd come
and talk to you no matter what the circumstances, of course,
But I like that Mark. I did notice though we
win three of four and all of a sudden, I
get a phone call. So that's a very encouraging time
for me. So I understand how these things work.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
JJ, I believe in you wholeheartedly. I had a very
nervous game watching experience on Sunday. In conversation that we
had with Greg Olsen on Thursday, I simply pointed out
that you have not missed a snap in forever, and
that Olsen's doing the game. Does he get nervous that
he him broadcasting a game could witness the snap? And
(02:55):
he said, if you had a bad snap, he's waving
it on me and he would never talk to me ever.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Again. Well, I'll tell you what right after the game,
so I asked him. He always has parked in the
player's lot when he does our game. So I texted
him and I said, Hey, are you still in the
player's lives? Like now they're making us. They're making us
leave with the police escort because when you're a high
level Fox broadcast where you get police escorts everywhere. I
(03:20):
sit in traffic on more Head. But nevertheless, I asked
him if we could meet up, and he said, I'm leaving,
but I just want to let you know that I
debated giving you guys all love before that last kick,
because but I didn't want to jinx it, so I
didn't say anything, and I said, I appreciate it. I'm
not a jink Sky, but at the same time, like,
(03:41):
let's not encourage any jinxes.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'm glad he kept his thoughts to himself, and I'm
glad Ryan banged it through and we could all celebrate.
That's far more exciting than hearing my name on a broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
There you go, and Bone tried to jink shit, but
it didn't matter. All right, you're unjinksable at this point.
Knock on wood. I'm knocking on wood right now.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You're just killing me.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I can do it. Tuesday wantch you together. That's all.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Curses over there.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Oh okay, so that you do believe it that you
do in all seriousness. You've won three and the last four,
three and zero at home. What is going on, Like,
what is what's happening behind the scenes that we really
can't see, Like we can see what's happening on the
field and the end product and the running game and
the run defense and those sort of things. How's it
(04:30):
coming together behind the scenes that is leading to this
right now?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I think the early part of football always is
trying to kind of learn your team's identity. And and
we're a very young team. I think we're like the
third fewest, you know, the third youngest team in terms
of like snap adjusted age across the whole league.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We've got a very young team.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And with that comes like trying to find your own identity.
And head coach and front office can alsoay, hey, this
is who we're gonna be. But I really do believe that.
But the team has to kind of find out what
they're good at, and coach Canalys is kind of pretel like,
let's find out what we're good at. And I would
say over the last month, I think we've really mean,
it's very clear, right we've leaned into the run game,
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and off of that comes some of the play action
and send them to the opportunities for Bryce to create
Layton downs on third down and stuff like that where
we've been really good. And so I think as you
start to have some success, now with that comes okay,
we know what we want to be in critical situations.
We know how we want to establish ourselves as a team,
especially on offense, and at the same time then on defense,
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like so much was made of last year how much
we struggled on the run side of the ball. We've
added a few guys, We've got Derek Brown back, but
if you watch the last two games, and Dallas and
Miami have not been less like great run offenses, but
we've basically made both those teams one dimensional. And so
you know the old adage, you know, run the ball,
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stop the run. I think the guys are just kind
of buying into, like this is how the twenty twenty
five Panthers play. And when you kind of know who
you are, it's a little bit easier to weather the
highs and lows of the game because you feel like
you have a pathway to win. And obviously two games
at home, you need to win games at home. So
really excited about the fact that you know we're three
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and our at home, but now you know, looking forward
to New York, like, we gotta go win a game
on the road. That's how you start to kind of
continue to establish confidence and building towards you know, the
second half of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
How's the chemistry with this group, Jay, Jill. You've heard
some ping pong in the background of some audio, always
a good sign that things are vibing. But how how
are the guys getting along? And really, like, how long
can you tell that the group is kind of unified
when it's a new team coming together.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think that is a continual process of the unity
of the team, right when you're when you're winning, the
group always gets a little bit stronger. When you're losing,
it's always easier for the team to fracture, not because
it's bad guys, but just you're feeling the tension of
winning and losing. And so, yeah, the group has been
moving together really well, I felt. I think I told
(07:07):
you guys this back in the spring, Like, it's a
very strong group. The guys really like each other. There's
no real clicks like got you know, the guys who
like to play cards, the guys that like to play
ping pong, the guys that like to hang out in
the sauna. There's different sort of groups. But it's not like, oh,
that's where the defensive guys are, or that's where the
old lineman only hang out with the old lineman. Like,
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it's a very inter mixed group, which again creates a
lot of bond and unity. And I've always taken a
special pride in like what does special teams look like,
because that's the one part of the team that really
pulls from everybody. And so we've tried to make a
very important, you know, special effort to play with a
ton of energy, celebrate, get you know, kind of get
the juices of the sideline going, especially in the coverage units,
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especially on kickoff cover in particular, Like we're trying to
add some energy and some camaraderie to the full team,
because when the defense can take the field with a
lot of extra energy, then it sort of trickles into hey,
maybe that's a quick three and our offense gets the
ball back. It affects the play on the field as well.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
JJ, welcome back to snapchats. In the text one, a
six seven eight area code says, I'm pretty sure JJ
is the reason we're only the third youngest team.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I specifically added snap adjusted. I'm not contributing a lot
in any one direction, seeing how I'm only averaging about
six snaps the game. Yes, it is. It is a
very young team. When you add me, Andy and Sam Martin,
we are you know. I don't know that we're adjusting
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it too much, but we're the old heads. But with
the rest of the guys are pretty young. I think
most of our guys are twenty seven and under, and
that's good for long term health of organization.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm not kidding. Five people said the same joke. We
would be we we would be the youngest team in
the league if it wasn't for JJ. Stop signing it.
Get your jokes in, y'all. This man is a damn
legend right off.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You know what everyone's talking about. I've only been here
for a year or two.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Oh man, all right, anyway, let's yeah, that's a ticket.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's a ticket.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Let's talk about a man I like to affectionately call Fitzie.
This young rookie kicker is tearing it up and uh,
you had the dirty kicks that I love so much
against the Falcons. He has been really, really good kicking
the ball and then Sunday he hits the fifty five
yarder to bail y'all out after the whole XL lateral situation,
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and then he ends the game with the game winning
field goal. This kid's off to a hell of a start. Man,
What's does it surprise you? What's what's this kid all
about as a kicker?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
JJ? It does not surprise me, Our our buddy, Darren
Gant wrote an article on Panthers dot com back during
training camp where he had asked me, like, what are
you guys looking for in a kicker? And I think
so much of what the outside will look at when
you're when you're looking at young kickers is how many
(10:03):
do they make in practice? You know, so much was
made about us kicking on skinny posts, right, Everyone's like, well,
what does that mean? It's on a skinny post? Like,
what what I'm looking for when I'm watching young kickers?
And I'm sure what the team is looking for is
what are the qualities that are indicative of a kicker
handling the run of a full season? And obviously you
(10:27):
want them to make kicks, and you want you want
to get the best possible kicker, but also do they
bounce back from a good game or from a bad game?
Do they add on to a good game. Can they
handle uh the end of at the end of a
regulation game like we have the other night. Can There's
just so many little things, and you're looking for confidence,
you're looking for bounce back, You're looking for does this
(10:50):
guy fit the team to do the guys like him.
It's much easier to send out a kicker that the
team likes than someone that nobody knows, Like, you know,
Jake mood he hit a game winner for Chicago. They
didn't even Kayla Williams, Like.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't even know who that guy is.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like that, that is real in the NFL. But at
the same time, like you want to send a guy
out that everyone's rooting for and cheering for. And we've
been very fortunate that that's been Eddie for the last
three years. And so when you're looking at a new guy,
you're looking for the moxie, the confidence, you know, and
I always look for quiet confidence and what I was
so impressed with And we didn't talk about it, but
(11:26):
we got we got the two minute warning, we're running
the clock out. We were in a first down, get
down situation. And again shout out to Trevor etn handling
that situation as a rookie really well. Easy thing would
have been just run into the end zone as they were,
as the Cowboys were trying to encourage him to do,
and he handled the situation so well. But at the
two minute warning, Fitsy went out there and just went
(11:47):
through his process and checked the wind. It was an
incredibly windy day and in that direction it was very challenging,
and so he just kind of went out through his
process and kind of handled it like a Shrinwood and
that was really cool. And he and Stan worked so
well together. Sam's a big part of that, a veteran
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punter that has done some kicked in college, has been
a holder for a lot of big kicks, and they
just worked through the process really well. But it's confidence,
it's moxy, it's handling all the situations well. And he's
done that so well since you got here.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I like it.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
By the way, multiple textures, I don't want you to
think all our Texters do is make age jokes about
you JJ. Multiple multiple texters have said shout out to
JJ for the game winning snap. Okay, if that thing's
not back there the way JJ put it there, the
whole thing can't be possible. We're also getting questions from
the Texters. They are going right back in to ask
JJ modebone from the offseason snapchats. So we have a
(12:44):
text that it says, what does what did JJ think
when Drake May said that all the players I rooted
for as a Panther fan growing up in Charlotte are
gone except the long snapper?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Did you hear that? What did you think of that?
Of that?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I did hear it, and I was very proud. I
talked to Drake after the game. I am very I'm
very fortunate. I've had multiple top ten picks in the
NFL Draft quarterbacks come up and say the same thing,
Drake May and Daniel Jones. I have not yet got
a jersey for my kids from Drake May. I'll have
to work on that. I do have one from Daniel Jones.
(13:21):
He of course went to Charlotte Latin when my kids
go to school, and so all of our kids are
very big Daniel Jones fans except for when we play them.
But last year we handled business quite well. So I
end up with these jerseys. Of these top ten picks,
they're the only quarterbacks that I don't play with that
actually know who I am, but I am taking it
(13:42):
as full advantage.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Okay, JJ.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
One thing before you get to your day off there,
there's some rumors around town because you know me, I'm
always walking around town getting the rumors that you taught
Tommy Tremble the leap karate kick move. Is that true
that that's your doing there?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah? So that ping pong table, we jump over it
in the locker room every day, so you have to
run up to it and then you have to yell why,
like you're like hitting the Y button in PlayStation and
they have to jump right on over. So that's an
important gil. I keeps that to all the Notre dame guys.
So hopefully, uh Mitch Mitchell Evans here pretty soon we'll
(14:20):
be doing that one. He'll add that to the game.
So that's really good anyone else that really wants to
know it. But you know, some guys can handle it
and some guys can't.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Your golden domer tight ends look good, Man, Tremble looking good,
and Mitchell Elevans had the big twenty one yard catch
early and they were both blocking their butts off.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Man, both of them. They deserve love, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
They play they played great. You know, we've we've we've
got a really strong room there. Kind of I think
that that was sort of a question mark. And then
you know, JT gets hurt and all of a sudden
you see three or four guys really just blocking their
butts off, and then that helps so much in the
run game. On that play you talked about with Tremble
jumping over the guy or drop kicking him or whatever
ended up doing like that gets sold out because of
(15:02):
how hard Tommy blocks, pulls off little play action boot
and all of a sudden, the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Is going to play Tommy's hands and want to play
sick some.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
People in the face.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
How about brown Mamba? How about brown Mamba? On the text,
Wine gave JJ a ninety ninth speed rating and you're
flying down the field.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now, Oh that's big.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I will take it. I don't think that that's true
any probably why not getting any Madden rating certification, But
I'm trying to get as close to ninety nine as
humanly possible.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
JJ, here's the best question. We'll let you go on
this one, all right. The Texters are just great today.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Man.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
This Texter says seven oh four number says a theme
the last two weeks have been guys asking for certain
plays or certain roles and being rewarded and delivering. Is
JJ the next guy to ask for a bigger role?
Maybe you get a package put in for you similar
to Jimmy Horns, So here you go. That's a text.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, I don't have the ninety nine speed. I don't
know that I'll be running any Jet sweeps anytime soon.
One of the media people in training camp asked if
they were gonna let me play any quarterback because I
throw to the DBS in practice and Canal has shut
that down pretty fast, So I'm gonna have to probably
look at a different position. Maybe we'll run a punt
fake We're all run like a go route. I don't know.
(16:18):
We'll figure something out eventually. They all seem to be
working right now. It's either that or nobody tells you
when the player requests the play and it doesn't work.
The media though exactly when they asked for that particular.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
By the way, y'all are about do for a fake punt.
I don't give anything away to the Jets, but Canalist
likes a fake punt. Y'all are about do for y'all.
We're gonna run one, y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We're gonna run one punt this week.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Y'all were gonna run one in the Miami game, weren't you?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Or no? Can we keep those things to ourselves?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I I never talked about this on the air.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Looked like Sam Martin called off the fake.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I never brought this up last week, but JJ didn't
want but Bryan, all right, Hey.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
The rumor, the rumors are Aaron Glenn's listening to this
radio program right now. I head coach for the Jets.
I don't want to get anything away. Everyone knows that
they're big k Mac and Bone fans up there in
the East.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Clearly, where aren't they? I mean clearly? I heard Steve
Wilkes is listening.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Right now as he gets ready at his weekly presser
to tell the Panthers to buckle up into Steve Wilkes
revenge game.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It'll be good to see, It'll be good to see wilsee. Hey, Mac,
I'm really excited to see what happens with you guys
in Penn State. That's gonna be a thrill.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's going great for us, going great for us. Although
if we get Kirk Signette, it's all fine. But if
we get to know who you're gonna get. Our old
friend is dying to coach his alma mater, isn't he?
Like you could just tell from his press.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Know who you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You absolutely know he's a pretty good college coach. Can
I convince myself into that?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Or no? All right?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
J trying, I'm.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Trying already, all right, JJ, you are the man we
love the way. This city is just a better city
when y'all are doing what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Keep it up.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Good luck against the Jets, man. Thanks for hanging with us.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Absolutely. You know what else makes the city great? Checkers
hockey Friday Night, We're about that time, buddy, there we go.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
There you go, baby, all right, there you go, get
that promo and go see the Checkers play after the
run to the title. Also, Sycamore Sycamore Brewery brewing makes
it a great city too. I just want to throw
my sponsor into.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
When we come back. Adam Gold ninety nine point nine
the Fan in Raleigh.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
We're having a blast man.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Check out the podcast later today whenever you can listen.
We're not just a radio show, baby, we are an
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(19:13):
We'll play it again later in the nine o'clock hour.
But the Dallas Cowboy version of the Montage of Misery
was played in the seven o'clock hour. It includes Stephen
a or no, not Steven A. What am I talking about?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It includes Skip Bayless, Michael Irvin, and many Cowboy fans
that are desponded. Also a fake Jerry Jones in there
as well. It's good stuff. I'm not sure that was fake. No,
there is good so I think there's more of a
chance that was the real Jerry Jones than the actual
Jerry Yons.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I want to hear Jerry.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, and Jerry do his interview today usually on Dallas
radio because he wouldn't talk after the game because we
shut his trap. I want to hear what he says
about Rico Dalla today. Did you hear what he said
on an interview before the game about Rico. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we didn't talk about this yet. Jerry Jones did a
hint on he talked before the game. Bone then we
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shut his ass up in the process of sixty minutes.
And he didn't talk after the game like he usually does.
But he told the Dallas Cowboy Radio Network pregame when
asked about Rico dawdle your former running backs buckle up comments,
he says, let me tell you my players are so
scared they don't even want to take the field. H
smart ass, snarky Jarrah, and it completely backfired on him.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
God, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Jerry Jones joins the show today, not our show, they're
show in Dallas. Oh, I got it at nine thirty
our time, so one hour from now. Real one too,
not a fake one that was on the ticket in
Dallas last yesterday. All right, let's do this, baby.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
This man is real. He is not fake at all.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
He is a man that's been a radio staple for
two decades in Raleigh ninety nine to nine to a
fan on in the middays. You can hear his show
seven o'clock weeknights here on WFNZ in the Queen City
and you can hear him every Tuesday. He is Goldie,
ladies and gentlemen. Adam gold Goldie, what's happening doing?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm chilling, man, I was. I was amazed that Jerry
had nothing to say after the game.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I felt, good man, that does not happen often. Honestly,
Adam don't know when he ever shut up before. I
can't think of a the time.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
This is right.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I have no idea what I've never heard of this before.
This is a miraculous achievement by the Panthers. What did
you think of this Panther game? Goldie? We've got an
actual winning streak on our hands. What did you think
about it?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, first, I would say that Lou Brown would say
two is not a winning streak. Three is a winning streak.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
But it is.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
That was as thorough a completed performance as they put
out there, maybe since in terms of a game that
had some stakes to it, right, since twenty one when
they won their first three games of the year. I
was more impressed with the defense than I will with anything,
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because Dallas has an elite offense and the defense shut
him down and that was that was awesome. They made
him one dimensional and that one dimension was basically George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But man Rico Daddell, what do you have?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Fifteen carries of at least seven yards?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes, fifteen of seven or more Dallas didn't have one.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
That was just unbelievable. And the offensive line is the
best performance in terms of running by their offensive line
to day. And they pass blocked fine. It was the
best performance I have seen from that offensive line in
a long time. Harriet, the Corgi is also very exciting.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh that's big for us, man Adam, I have a question,
are we insane too in this jumble in this jumbled
up NFC. Are Mack and I in the positive fancy
right now happy where this is going? Are we insane
to look at the standings and like even think about
this team being a playoff team?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Insane?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah? No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I wouldn't say that puts you in an insane category.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No asylum, no asylum.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
But hey, look, you know there have been so few
opportunities for Panthers fans to care about the standings.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That enjoy it while it.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Lasts, go to New York or actually go to New Jersey.
Beat the Jets, because the Jets are deathwarmed over beat
them be four and three. When was the last time
they were over five hundred seven games into a season?
Because that wasn't a case of twenty one, You probably
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have to go back to eighteen yep, the last time
they were over five hundred seven games into a season.
So go ahead, beat the Jets and enjoy it and
enjoy where you know, because the schedule gets real after that.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So but I mean, who knows, get.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
A little confidence. I think the improvement in the defense
is noticeable. I think when you run the ball first,
you get to see that Bryce Young can be an
effective quarterback. You know, looking around the league, how many
really good quarterbacks are there?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Are there six really good quarterback in the NFL? And
everybody else?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
It's a week the week basis everybody?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Goldie, Oh well, Josh Allen was good to last night.
What a What a crazy league?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Though?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
That Atlanta team that did that offensively didn't score a
point against the Panthers, Like AC brought that up on
the text line, like what a crazy league. By the way, Goldie,
here is your answer, and how dare you forget the
work of one Kyle Allen twenty nineteen, The Panthers started
zh and two, won their next four games, then lost
badly to San Francisco, but they were four and three
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at that point, and then they proceeded to lose every
game the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Oh man, you just picked out one bat season.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh god, anyway, and you wonder why you actually we
don't wonder why. We know why we're excited at three
and three, Goldie, What do you think of the talk
to us about the Hurricanes, because we might have been
obsessing over the Panthers in college football since the weekend.
What do you think of of the start to the
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season for the Canes? What sticks out to you?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
The first game was much better than the second game.
First game, they really didn't allow the Devils very much.
Second game they were sort of a mess with the puck,
and even though Philadelphia didn't generate a ton of offense,
Philadelphia had way too many scoring chances or the head
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coaches liking, and Carolina was somewhat lucky to win the
game when that overtime goal was waived off for being
for having goaltender interference and then Carolina won it like
thirty five seconds later. Oh, shut up, Harriet. She did
not think it was goaltender interference clearly, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So I think it's been good. A little bit of
an issue right now.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I don't think Jacob slaven is going to play tonight
in San Jose.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He's dealing with some.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Sort of a lower body issue. We'll see what how
long that's gonna keep him out. Uh, he's the best
defensive defenseman in the NFL, in the NFL, in the NHL,
and he probably would be the best defensive defenseman in
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
He's so good.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
But so that's gonna be something to watch. Like for me,
I'd rather see him not play the first, you know,
two months of the season and make sure that he's
as close to one hundred percent as he could possibly
be for the last, you know, four months into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Adam, I have a hypothetical question because, as you know,
James Franklin fired by Penn State, So a lot of
UNC fans are already kind of angle with Hey, could
James Franklin potentially, if they moved on from Belichick, replace
him as the tar heel head coach? But not looking
as this, If if State were to move on from
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Dave Dorin. I think James Franklin would be a great
fit in Raleigh coaching the pack. If you could place
James Franklin as the head coach of NC State or
UNC where would he fit best at in this hypothetical world.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I'm going to give you a little backstory on James
frank Okay, James Franklin, before he was the head coach
at Vanderbilt, was an assistant coach and the head coach
in waiting at the University of Maryland. The athletic director
at that time was Debbie Yal. Now she's no longer
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the ad at State, but she long long loved James
Franklin and she wanted him to follow Ralph Frigin at Maryland.
When Debbie Yal left Maryland, Fregin was still there and
the incoming ad, who I think was Kevin train Wreck
(28:30):
I don't wear pants. When I interviewed Sean Miller Anderson
and they decided that James Franklin was not for them,
which is a brilliant idea because Franklin is really a
great coach, but he does have some limitations.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
He does.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He would fit right in at NC State since they
don't win big games either.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So he could go there. But I think.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Franklin would be a great fit at NC State. But
I don't know that that's where I mean. I think
Franklin is going to get another There'll be big jobs
opening up. I think Franklin's going to get another big job.
But look, if NC State came calling, that would be
a great fit for him. It's going to sound weird,
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but unless Bill Belichick wants to walk away on his own,
I think he's the head coach of Carolina next year.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Do you so?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
What did you think about the rash of reports last
week and now Bill? You know the school and Bill
denied it. Bill had his presser yesterday. What makes you
think that he's still going to be there next season?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Because his ego doesn't want to give up, and the
ego of the people who are really making the decisions
at UNC don't want to admit that they were potentially wrong.
They've invested this much. They're going to try and see
it through. I think what they would like and they
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might try to do this. Some people try to create
an environment in which Bill does not want to stay.
And if they do that, like if they could convince,
if they could you know, kind of orchestrate the firing of.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Mike Lombardy then Bill Mike go interesting that.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think that's what it would take interesting. I mean,
I could be completely wrong, but that's my read on
this situation is that Bill wants to try to make
this work. The big money people at UNC think that
this would work if given time, even though they thought
it would have already started working. And I don't know
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if it ever will. I mean, I think the odds
are against it. But as I've said from the beginning,
I am here for this experiment because I think it
will be fascinating to watch, and I really don't care
if it works or not. I'm here for the show.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
It is content. There is no denying, no matter how
it goes from here. All Right, Goldie, you are demand.
We will talk to you next week. Tell Harriet to
chill out, all right?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Well, and she and her brother are are going to the.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Spot today, all right, good she should be happier then
she should be happy, all right, Goldie, be good man.
We will talk to you next week. Okay, So a
couple of things now, I'm reminded bone of all the Texters,
I forget how it came up. On the show that
went off on Corky's and said how horrible and annoying
they are. Cory's I get compared to Corky's. I am
reminded of those texts. Now you get compared of a
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to a Corky. So now now I think I understand Texters.
I forgot to warn you before the segment that Victoria
Adam Gold's producer told me yesterday to not refer to
it as a win streak with Adam around.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
He's Adam. Oh, he's that one of his staff.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I forgot to warn you one of his one of
his things is you have to win three and on
his show, I'll tell you, I mean, don't call it
a win streak. That's Roley. This is Charlotte. All right,
we take two. You know what I mean. I've tried
to call one a streak before two here in Charlotte,
I've tried to stretch the definition of strength just to
fit our needs. The one other thing I wanted to say,
we have not mentioned this, but in the two days since, Uh,
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how about the report over the weekend from Diana Rossini
that uh, that Bill Belichick and some of his Uh,
I'm sure Lombardi and company at UNC think that a
lot of the leaks have been coming from Patriots people
that are basically trying to sabotage Bill Belichick. I'm telling you, Dave,
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the Bill side, the Bill side, you're consumed by the
Patriots artank. That's an obsessed min You wonder you wonder
mag who may have an obsessive attitude towards something like that.
Maybe someone close to Bill who keeps bringing up to
Bill how he was treated by the Patriots. Perhaps I
think she's got his ear. So the more she acts
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about how he was treated, maybe that's how this thing is.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
These things she's probably not on.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
She's definitely probably attention to all the stuff and not
telling him what's going on. But you can easily see
his ego to you know what I mean. You can
easily see him being petty too. You know, when we
come back, how should the Panthers handle Reco and Cuba?
Is a trade? The ultimate answer? Sports Radio ninety seven wfnzs.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
What it most likely and the only real conclusion we
can make is when they do come back and they
do split the backfield, Ricodetto's calves will not crimp in
the fourth quarter like once again, they did the day right.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So I'm guessing it's going to be a actual committee
where they just let the hot hand ride out because
I hear you that they can't like away for Ricodado entirely.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Also just don't see team's bench their captains very often toos.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
That's a big point because you know some runners are
their most effective after we've got seven, eight nine carries
underneath their belt, and you know Rico Datto's punishing Sow
along with his offensive line, that might be the case.
So I think it would be pretty frustrating, and it's
only natural for a rushing performance to drop down from
here over these last two weeks. Again, two hundred and
thirty four yards and two hundred and thirty nine tol
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yards over the last two weeks, So I think you
have to continue to start Rico down on once Youbopper
comes back.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
That is our former intern, lifelong Carolina Panthers fan Charlotte
native Josh Norris and his co host Hayden Winks. That
is fantasy football with Josh Norris and Hayden Winks incidentally
from the Underdog Sports brand, and they got a little
fantasy minded in there when they start talking about like
RB two and flax and all that stuff. But I
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thought it was interesting because it is the number one thing,
Bone Panther, one of the number one things we're talking
about around here, which is what do you do and
how do you make it work when Rico, when Chuba
comes back to join Rico, and it could happen this
week against the Jets Bony, and then you also have
the question of what do you do long term? Cuba's
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on a long term deal. Rico signed a one year deal.
We've got people on the text line who have said,
in the last you know, twenty four hours, how about
you try to sign Rico too. We've got people that say,
why don't you try to sign trade Cuba and then
sign Rico? Why don't you try to trade Rico to
a team that wants a rental stud running back. Let's
start first, Bone with the playing time. I think you
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and I agree on the playing time thing. But like,
explain to everybody your theory on if your coach Canalis
and Cuba comes back this week, how do you handle
the dynamic, the carries who starts, how do you handle
all of that?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Cuba's the backup for a while until Rico slows down.
He's way too hot. It's not like he's had a
couple of nice games. He's had two historically great games,
both in the franchise history and nearly in the league.
When you look at total yardage back for what he's
done in a two game span, I'm not messing with Rico.
He's running that well. He's a difference maker. You're winning
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games with him. I love Cuba, and I also know
if there's any guy Mack that can understand and handle
it with the utmost class as a leader, it's Cuba.
There's no attitude, there's no diva nature. You know he's
going to root on his guy. So I flip the
percentages around, keep ETN the same every once in a while,
but I make Rico the main dog, Cuba the backup,
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and if Rico slows down or it's not working, He've
always got Cuba there to take back over. But right now,
I'm not trading the guys. I'm not moving anybody. That
make a whole lot of sense. The thing that makes
the most sense for me is Rico is your main
guy for right now until he slows down.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
If he does slow down.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I do want to point out that when we last
left the Cuba and Rico Show, it was almost a
fifty to fifty split in that game. Right before this,
it was the New England Loss right, and it was
like ten to nine carries. So it was in this
and even the snaps were close to being similar. I
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left that game feeling because remember we were saying, you
got to give Cuba the bulk of the carries. Ironically,
it's funny how that is aged, but like we were
concerned that they were not getting the boast out of
both guys because they were trying to make it a
fifty to fifty split.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
So I do.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Wonder Bone, if Dave Canalis envisions this as a fifty
to fifty split at some point. Me personally, Bone, I
would like I would start it off where Rico's getting
about sixty seven percent of the carries, Rico's getting two
to every one for Cuba, but I would literally hot
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handed Cuba's running better than Rico in the middle of
a game. I would then flip the script and I
would ride Cuba a little bit like I would try
to do it like that, where you get into each
individual game Rico's the starter for now you get in it,
but in each individual game it can change and it's
going to be very interesting to see the way is handled.
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Canalis said on Panther Talk last night. He said that
they have actually started looking back at some of the
running back time shares past and president.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
How they have worked.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
And then the boys on Panther Talk brought up, hey,
you have one, right, Aaron, double trouble and Canal has
got so excited about that.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Is that's right? So I could it be a double
trouble bunk? Can they get this thing? They had a season.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm not saying it's going to be quite like this,
but they had a season where they both went over
eleven hundred yards in the same season. Can they Can
they get the best out of both guys together? And
that's when I think, and then you keep guys fresh
and then Rico's not cramping.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Can they pull that off?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know ultimate about you talk about taking pressure off
of Bryce and what he has to do. Both those
guys are running my migracious Bryce had really just managed
things and hopefully not turn it over and do what
he has to do and win games.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
That way.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The comparison that a lot of people want to make
currently both on Twitter and on the texta line, and
I thought you did a nice job last week of
explaining why it may not be an exact comparison. It's
Gibbs and Montgomery in Detroit, but I don't know if
it's the same thing exactly, because I feel like these
two guys here are very rhythm based runners, especially that
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we're seeing with Rico the last couple of games. Montgomery
and Gibbs, I think it's a different style of tendom
than these two guys. They compliment each other. I feel
like Montgomery and Gibbs. Gibbs has a little more of that,
you know, speed and wiggle and all that. I feel
like like that's thunder and lightning kind of to me.
I agree, this feels like thunder and thunder. This feels
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like some thunder for your ass. We bringing it right
at your heine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And I like that.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I don't want this storm anymore. You don't think that
should be the thing.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Thunder for your ass should be the nickname of the duo,
because you know, bone, if they get going, some of
you're trying to do it already. If they get going,
you know that giving them the nickname is the next thing.
Thunder and ass, you know, but I'm not thunder for
your ass. But anyway, like that's just they're very similar back,
so I think nothing changes when you put them on
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the field. I do you think Rico's a little bit
better receiver, clearly, but like in terms of running style,
I think it's the same man. They have subtle differences,
but I think it's very similar. But I think that works,
Like Canalys has said it, we can run the same place.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
For each of these guys. You know, you don't have
to change anything up. But people are already giving up nicknames.
Don't they have to earn the nickname as a tail
before they get the nickname?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Please?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Please please please no nickname double Trouble two point oh
please please please?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Now do you why do you not want to give
them a nickname?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Because I just it just never stops, Like, once we
go nickname, we never go back, do you?
Speaker 5 (40:42):
So you don't think they should get a nickname if
we're like balling out and those two are like, let's let.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Them ball out as a duo and then we'll earn
the nickname. Okay, let's see them let's let them. Let's
let them become a duo. If they do, then we'll
go from there. Didn't I will say the lion's nickname
is tremendous sonic and knuckles. Yes, that's a great nickname. Yes,
didn't we weren't our guys.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Didn't our guys try to be smashing Dash only to
be told that already existed in Tennessee?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, that happened something like that. Who was smashing dash?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Chris Johnson, Wendal Whitelendale White, Yeah, see it as a
lot of those back tanums are that sort of thing, right,
the thunder and lightning type.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
But anyway, this is your boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
So what do you think about the trading stuff though, Bone,
because a lot of people Matty Westside says, thunder for
your ass is the only nickname?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Answer about print the ta sharks temper. Everyone's obsessed with that.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I don't want to know where the lightning's going.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
So anyway, Bone, what do you think about the different
trade ideas here? Because apparently we can't have two nice
things at the same position simultaneously. Well, scratch yourself, you've
got any interest in trading either? One of these guys
as the season goes on.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Makes no sense because Tuba's got a contract and you
know you paid them, still a good place. Who's gonna
maybe even take on that contract right now? Also, Rica,
it's one thing that both guys were signed and you
wanted to move off a contract. Rico's on a one year,
two million dollar deal, then some incentives. Rico's also mac
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gonna want a big bag in the offseason. So if
you traded Juba now and then a team came in
with a huge offer for Rico, well you're you're maybe
he wants to be here quot to I don't know
what you're tempting fate there that you could lose both
guys and then you're dependent on ETN and then you're
praying that Brooks got healthy. I'd rather have at least
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one going down the line that end up potentially possibly
losing both guys. Maybe you wouldn't, but the risk of that,
I don't think it's worth trading for right now or
trading them out of here.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Rico is on a one year, two point seven million
dollar deal. I'm gonna be honest with you, I believe
he has already earned that like I believe it's all gravy.
So like I understand what people like there are Texters saying,
but Rica, he's probably gonna leave. He's probably gonna get
a bigger offer and leave. So don't you want to
get something for him? I feel like bone, he has
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already paid for that contract.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, So like he's gonna get a major offer the
way he's running as the backup.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
He is, instead of trying to get like and what
can you get for a guy that's seen as a rental?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Right, I don't think he can get that much.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
So I would just keep getting great value out of
what you're paying him and see where this Rico Cuba
thing takes us.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
All Right, I'm not allowed to stay the P word,
all right, I'm not allowed.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Jim mor can say off, but I'm not allowed to
say off that period. I want you'all think I'm getting
dirty here, not allowed to say it, but like, let's
just see how that tandem, where that tandem takes us,
and then go from there. I'm also gonna say this,
and I don't know, you say he's gonna get paid.
Bony often running running back free agent market like often
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Shaksha in terms of people not getting paid. So we'll
just see how this plays out. I also, you know,
would keep an open mind towards paying him and having
both guys in the future. I don't know if that's
the way you go. You got Brooks at eat and
as young guys. But I'm definitely to make a short
story long here. I'm not in a hurry to try
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to get rid of either guy. I want to try
to see if we can create double trouble too. That's
what I want to see them try. Is that your
your nickname present? Just right now?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Mac?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Every single text is nicknamed? Why are you so bothered
by nickname? You don't see the fun and nicknames? Read
a few off? If we're going to break off there,
what do we have here? Canadian shaking? Is that?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
What?
Speaker 3 (44:37):
That's not bad? Canadian shaking?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Maid and McQueen, boom and zoom h and d for
heavy duty thunder something with donkey rc oh okay, donkey
and Diddy?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (44:50):
What what are they like that one? I can't do
that one?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
All right, we'll figure this out during break when we
come back. Panther's Great Jake, the wom talks about the
team heading in the right direction. Where has bryce grown
the most? Settled down on the growth jokes, Where has
bryce grown as a quarterback the most? In the last
few weeks, Sports RADIOFZ
Owen's Mac and Bow on your radio, BAF you listen
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Back posh, Come on, posh, this in my freem t bone.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
What's up the fun?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I can't go to work without listening to the Mac
and Bone do.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
A lot.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ Mac and Bone
with you. Spirits are high, baby, even on the text line,
spirits are high, bone man, It is a beautiful thing.
What the Carolina Panthers are doing to our attitude? A
chance to get over five hundred if they can beat
the Jets on Sunday. Sounds like Arrett Wilson will not
play thanks to a hyper extended niece.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You can throw that into the mix.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Meanwhile, sounds like the Panthers are getting the potentially bone
dy cavalry back right, I say it right that time,
cavalry cavalry back guys like Coker, Sanders, Wharton, Shuba. These
guys sound like they're pretty close. And we'll see what
the injury report looks like tomorrow and then shout out bone.
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So my friends at Sycamore, my day even got better.
One of my favorite IPAs of all time from Sycamore,
Tropical cush is coming back. They just announced on Instagram.
So things are coming up Mackie right now, baby, Except
for that whole Penn State failure of a season and
firing my head coach.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Other than that, Bone, things are going great. Yeah, but
we don't know you can move on from that. You
get someone that's gonna move the program ahead.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Mac.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Do you think our next guest, mister Janssen knows how
potentially bad this segment could have been today for me.
I don't think he knows. Somebody knows what happened betray
this overcame that. But we need to explain to him
that my friendship with Greg Olsen, our friendship with Greg Olsen,
uh was in jeopardy because of JJ had a miss
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snap on Sunday's game. Yeah, because of your big fat mouth.
You almost lost you must love. You probably would have
lost both. I was, I was nervous, and it was
over all right. Let's bring into man and.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Let's sell JJ James with a special in season snapchats
because the team has won three of four, they're three
and zero at home, and the vibes are apparently high
in the locker room, just like they are here.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What's up, JJ, how you doing man.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
First of all, don't make it sound like I'd only
come and talk to you because we're winning. I'd come
and talk to you no matter what the circumstances, of course,
But I like that Mark. I did notice though we
win three of four and all of a sudden, I
get a phone call. So that's a very encouraging time
for me. So I understand how these things work.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
JJ, I believe in you wholeheartedly. I had a very
nervous game watching experience on Sunday. In conversation that we
had with Greg Olsen on Thursday, I simply pointed out
that you have not missed a snap in forever, and
that Olsen's doing the game. Does he get nervous that
he him broadcasting a game could witness the snap? And
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he said, if you had a bad snap, he's waving
it on me and he would never talk to me ever.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Again. Well, I'll tell you what right after the game,
so I asked him. He always has parked in the
player's lot when he does our game. So I texted
him and I said, Hey, are you still in the
player's lives? Like now they're making us. They're making us
leave with the police escort because when you're a high
level Fox broadcast where you get police escorts everywhere. I
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sit in traffic on more Head. But nevertheless, I asked
him if we could meet up, and he said, I'm leaving,
but I just want to let you know that I
debated giving you guys all love before that last kick,
because but I didn't want to jinx it, so I
didn't say anything, and I said, I appreciate it. I'm
not a jink Sky, but at the same time, like,
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let's not encourage any jinxes.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'm glad he kept his thoughts to himself, and I'm
glad Ryan banged it through and we could all celebrate.
That's far more exciting than hearing my name on a broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
There you go, and Bone tried to jink shit, but
it didn't matter. All right, you're unjinksable at this point.
Knock on wood. I'm knocking on wood right now.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You're just killing me.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I can do it. Tuesday wantch you together. That's all.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Curses over there.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Oh okay, so that you do believe it that you
do in all seriousness. You've won three and the last four,
three and zero at home. What is going on, Like,
what is what's happening behind the scenes that we really
can't see, Like we can see what's happening on the
field and the end product and the running game and
the run defense and those sort of things. How's it
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coming together behind the scenes that is leading to this
right now?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I think the early part of football always is
trying to kind of learn your team's identity. And and
we're a very young team. I think we're like the
third fewest, you know, the third youngest team in terms
of like snap adjusted age across the whole league.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We've got a very young team.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And with that comes like trying to find your own identity.
And head coach and front office can alsoay, hey, this
is who we're gonna be. But I really do believe that.
But the team has to kind of find out what
they're good at, and coach Canalys is kind of pretel like,
let's find out what we're good at. And I would
say over the last month, I think we've really mean,
it's very clear, right we've leaned into the run game,
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and off of that comes some of the play action
and send them to the opportunities for Bryce to create
Layton downs on third down and stuff like that where
we've been really good. And so I think as you
start to have some success, now with that comes okay,
we know what we want to be in critical situations.
We know how we want to establish ourselves as a team,
especially on offense, and at the same time then on defense,
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like so much was made of last year how much
we struggled on the run side of the ball. We've
added a few guys, We've got Derek Brown back, but
if you watch the last two games, and Dallas and
Miami have not been less like great run offenses, but
we've basically made both those teams one dimensional. And so
you know the old adage, you know, run the ball,
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stop the run. I think the guys are just kind
of buying into, like this is how the twenty twenty
five Panthers play. And when you kind of know who
you are, it's a little bit easier to weather the
highs and lows of the game because you feel like
you have a pathway to win. And obviously two games
at home, you need to win games at home. So
really excited about the fact that you know we're three
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and our at home, but now you know, looking forward
to New York, like, we gotta go win a game
on the road. That's how you start to kind of
continue to establish confidence and building towards you know, the
second half of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
How's the chemistry with this group, Jay, Jill. You've heard
some ping pong in the background of some audio, always
a good sign that things are vibing. But how how
are the guys getting along? And really, like, how long
can you tell that the group is kind of unified
when it's a new team coming together.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think that is a continual process of the unity
of the team, right when you're when you're winning, the
group always gets a little bit stronger. When you're losing,
it's always easier for the team to fracture, not because
it's bad guys, but just you're feeling the tension of
winning and losing. And so, yeah, the group has been
moving together really well, I felt. I think I told
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you guys this back in the spring, Like, it's a
very strong group. The guys really like each other. There's
no real clicks like got you know, the guys who
like to play cards, the guys that like to play
ping pong, the guys that like to hang out in
the sauna. There's different sort of groups. But it's not like, oh,
that's where the defensive guys are, or that's where the
old lineman only hang out with the old lineman. Like,
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it's a very inter mixed group, which again creates a
lot of bond and unity. And I've always taken a
special pride in like what does special teams look like,
because that's the one part of the team that really
pulls from everybody. And so we've tried to make a
very important, you know, special effort to play with a
ton of energy, celebrate, get you know, kind of get
the juices of the sideline going, especially in the coverage units,
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especially on kickoff cover in particular, Like we're trying to
add some energy and some camaraderie to the full team,
because when the defense can take the field with a
lot of extra energy, then it sort of trickles into hey,
maybe that's a quick three and our offense gets the
ball back. It affects the play on the field as well.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
JJ, welcome back to snapchats. In the text one, a
six seven eight area code says, I'm pretty sure JJ
is the reason we're only the third youngest team.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I specifically added snap adjusted. I'm not contributing a lot
in any one direction, seeing how I'm only averaging about
six snaps the game. Yes, it is. It is a
very young team. When you add me, Andy and Sam Martin,
we are you know. I don't know that we're adjusting
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it too much, but we're the old heads. But with
the rest of the guys are pretty young. I think
most of our guys are twenty seven and under, and
that's good for long term health of organization.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm not kidding. Five people said the same joke. We
would be we we would be the youngest team in
the league if it wasn't for JJ. Stop signing it.
Get your jokes in, y'all. This man is a damn
legend right off.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You know what everyone's talking about. I've only been here
for a year or two.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Oh man, all right, anyway, let's yeah, that's a ticket.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's a ticket.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Let's talk about a man I like to affectionately call Fitzie.
This young rookie kicker is tearing it up and uh,
you had the dirty kicks that I love so much
against the Falcons. He has been really, really good kicking
the ball and then Sunday he hits the fifty five
yarder to bail y'all out after the whole XL lateral situation,
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and then he ends the game with the game winning
field goal. This kid's off to a hell of a start. Man,
What's does it surprise you? What's what's this kid all
about as a kicker?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
JJ? It does not surprise me, Our our buddy, Darren
Gant wrote an article on Panthers dot com back during
training camp where he had asked me, like, what are
you guys looking for in a kicker? And I think
so much of what the outside will look at when
you're when you're looking at young kickers is how many
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do they make in practice? You know, so much was
made about us kicking on skinny posts, right, Everyone's like, well,
what does that mean? It's on a skinny post? Like,
what what I'm looking for when I'm watching young kickers?
And I'm sure what the team is looking for is
what are the qualities that are indicative of a kicker
handling the run of a full season? And obviously you
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want them to make kicks, and you want you want
to get the best possible kicker, but also do they
bounce back from a good game or from a bad game?
Do they add on to a good game. Can they
handle uh the end of at the end of a
regulation game like we have the other night. Can There's
just so many little things, and you're looking for confidence,
you're looking for bounce back, You're looking for does this
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guy fit the team to do the guys like him.
It's much easier to send out a kicker that the
team likes than someone that nobody knows, Like, you know,
Jake mood he hit a game winner for Chicago. They
didn't even Kayla Williams, Like.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't even know who that guy is.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like that, that is real in the NFL. But at
the same time, like you want to send a guy
out that everyone's rooting for and cheering for. And we've
been very fortunate that that's been Eddie for the last
three years. And so when you're looking at a new guy,
you're looking for the moxie, the confidence, you know, and
I always look for quiet confidence and what I was
so impressed with And we didn't talk about it, but
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we got we got the two minute warning, we're running
the clock out. We were in a first down, get
down situation. And again shout out to Trevor etn handling
that situation as a rookie really well. Easy thing would
have been just run into the end zone as they were,
as the Cowboys were trying to encourage him to do,
and he handled the situation so well. But at the
two minute warning, Fitsy went out there and just went
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through his process and checked the wind. It was an
incredibly windy day and in that direction it was very challenging,
and so he just kind of went out through his
process and kind of handled it like a Shrinwood and
that was really cool. And he and Stan worked so
well together. Sam's a big part of that, a veteran
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punter that has done some kicked in college, has been
a holder for a lot of big kicks, and they
just worked through the process really well. But it's confidence,
it's moxy, it's handling all the situations well. And he's
done that so well since you got here.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I like it.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
By the way, multiple textures, I don't want you to
think all our Texters do is make age jokes about
you JJ. Multiple multiple texters have said shout out to
JJ for the game winning snap. Okay, if that thing's
not back there the way JJ put it there, the
whole thing can't be possible. We're also getting questions from
the Texters. They are going right back in to ask
JJ modebone from the offseason snapchats. So we have a
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text that it says, what does what did JJ think
when Drake May said that all the players I rooted
for as a Panther fan growing up in Charlotte are
gone except the long snapper?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Did you hear that? What did you think of that?
Of that?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I did hear it, and I was very proud. I
talked to Drake after the game. I am very I'm
very fortunate. I've had multiple top ten picks in the
NFL Draft quarterbacks come up and say the same thing,
Drake May and Daniel Jones. I have not yet got
a jersey for my kids from Drake May. I'll have
to work on that. I do have one from Daniel Jones.
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He of course went to Charlotte Latin when my kids
go to school, and so all of our kids are
very big Daniel Jones fans except for when we play them.
But last year we handled business quite well. So I
end up with these jerseys. Of these top ten picks,
they're the only quarterbacks that I don't play with that
actually know who I am, but I am taking it
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as full advantage.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Okay, JJ.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
One thing before you get to your day off there,
there's some rumors around town because you know me, I'm
always walking around town getting the rumors that you taught
Tommy Tremble the leap karate kick move. Is that true
that that's your doing there?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah? So that ping pong table, we jump over it
in the locker room every day, so you have to
run up to it and then you have to yell why,
like you're like hitting the Y button in PlayStation and
they have to jump right on over. So that's an
important gil. I keeps that to all the Notre dame guys.
So hopefully, uh Mitch Mitchell Evans here pretty soon we'll
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be doing that one. He'll add that to the game.
So that's really good anyone else that really wants to
know it. But you know, some guys can handle it
and some guys can't.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Your golden domer tight ends look good, Man, Tremble looking good,
and Mitchell Elevans had the big twenty one yard catch
early and they were both blocking their butts off.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Man, both of them. They deserve love, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
They play they played great. You know, we've we've we've
got a really strong room there. Kind of I think
that that was sort of a question mark. And then
you know, JT gets hurt and all of a sudden
you see three or four guys really just blocking their
butts off, and then that helps so much in the
run game. On that play you talked about with Tremble
jumping over the guy or drop kicking him or whatever
ended up doing like that gets sold out because of
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how hard Tommy blocks, pulls off little play action boot
and all of a sudden, the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Is going to play Tommy's hands and want to play
sick some.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
People in the face.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
How about brown Mamba? How about brown Mamba? On the text,
Wine gave JJ a ninety ninth speed rating and you're
flying down the field.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now, Oh that's big.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I will take it. I don't think that that's true
any probably why not getting any Madden rating certification, But
I'm trying to get as close to ninety nine as
humanly possible.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
JJ, here's the best question. We'll let you go on
this one, all right. The Texters are just great today.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Man.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
This Texter says seven oh four number says a theme
the last two weeks have been guys asking for certain
plays or certain roles and being rewarded and delivering. Is
JJ the next guy to ask for a bigger role?
Maybe you get a package put in for you similar
to Jimmy Horns, So here you go. That's a text.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, I don't have the ninety nine speed. I don't
know that I'll be running any Jet sweeps anytime soon.
One of the media people in training camp asked if
they were gonna let me play any quarterback because I
throw to the DBS in practice and Canal has shut
that down pretty fast, So I'm gonna have to probably
look at a different position. Maybe we'll run a punt
fake We're all run like a go route. I don't know.
(16:18):
We'll figure something out eventually. They all seem to be
working right now. It's either that or nobody tells you
when the player requests the play and it doesn't work.
The media though exactly when they asked for that particular.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
By the way, y'all are about do for a fake punt.
I don't give anything away to the Jets, but Canalist
likes a fake punt. Y'all are about do for y'all.
We're gonna run one, y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We're gonna run one punt this week.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Y'all were gonna run one in the Miami game, weren't you?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Or no? Can we keep those things to ourselves?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I I never talked about this on the air.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Looked like Sam Martin called off the fake.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I never brought this up last week, but JJ didn't
want but Bryan, all right, Hey.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
The rumor, the rumors are Aaron Glenn's listening to this
radio program right now. I head coach for the Jets.
I don't want to get anything away. Everyone knows that
they're big k Mac and Bone fans up there in
the East.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Clearly, where aren't they? I mean clearly? I heard Steve
Wilkes is listening.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Right now as he gets ready at his weekly presser
to tell the Panthers to buckle up into Steve Wilkes
revenge game.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It'll be good to see, It'll be good to see wilsee. Hey, Mac,
I'm really excited to see what happens with you guys
in Penn State. That's gonna be a thrill.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's going great for us, going great for us. Although
if we get Kirk Signette, it's all fine. But if
we get to know who you're gonna get. Our old
friend is dying to coach his alma mater, isn't he?
Like you could just tell from his press.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Know who you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You absolutely know he's a pretty good college coach. Can
I convince myself into that?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Or no? All right?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
J trying, I'm.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Trying already, all right, JJ, you are the man we
love the way. This city is just a better city
when y'all are doing what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Keep it up.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Good luck against the Jets, man. Thanks for hanging with us.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Absolutely. You know what else makes the city great? Checkers
hockey Friday Night, We're about that time, buddy, there we go.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
There you go, baby, all right, there you go, get
that promo and go see the Checkers play after the
run to the title. Also, Sycamore Sycamore Brewery brewing makes
it a great city too. I just want to throw
my sponsor into.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
When we come back. Adam Gold ninety nine point nine
the Fan in Raleigh.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
We're having a blast man.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Check out the podcast later today whenever you can listen.
We're not just a radio show, baby, we are an
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wherever you get your podcasts. Included in the seven o'clock hour.
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We'll play it again later in the nine o'clock hour.
But the Dallas Cowboy version of the Montage of Misery
was played in the seven o'clock hour. It includes Stephen
a or no, not Steven A. What am I talking about?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It includes Skip Bayless, Michael Irvin, and many Cowboy fans
that are desponded. Also a fake Jerry Jones in there
as well. It's good stuff. I'm not sure that was fake. No,
there is good so I think there's more of a
chance that was the real Jerry Jones than the actual
Jerry Yons.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I want to hear Jerry.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, and Jerry do his interview today usually on Dallas
radio because he wouldn't talk after the game because we
shut his trap. I want to hear what he says
about Rico Dalla today. Did you hear what he said
on an interview before the game about Rico. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we didn't talk about this yet. Jerry Jones did a
hint on he talked before the game. Bone then we
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shut his ass up in the process of sixty minutes.
And he didn't talk after the game like he usually does.
But he told the Dallas Cowboy Radio Network pregame when
asked about Rico dawdle your former running backs buckle up comments,
he says, let me tell you my players are so
scared they don't even want to take the field. H
smart ass, snarky Jarrah, and it completely backfired on him.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
God, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Jerry Jones joins the show today, not our show, they're
show in Dallas. Oh, I got it at nine thirty
our time, so one hour from now. Real one too,
not a fake one that was on the ticket in
Dallas last yesterday. All right, let's do this, baby.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
This man is real. He is not fake at all.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
He is a man that's been a radio staple for
two decades in Raleigh ninety nine to nine to a
fan on in the middays. You can hear his show
seven o'clock weeknights here on WFNZ in the Queen City
and you can hear him every Tuesday. He is Goldie,
ladies and gentlemen. Adam gold Goldie, what's happening doing?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm chilling, man, I was. I was amazed that Jerry
had nothing to say after the game.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I felt, good man, that does not happen often. Honestly,
Adam don't know when he ever shut up before. I
can't think of a the time.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
This is right.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I have no idea what I've never heard of this before.
This is a miraculous achievement by the Panthers. What did
you think of this Panther game? Goldie? We've got an
actual winning streak on our hands. What did you think
about it?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, first, I would say that Lou Brown would say
two is not a winning streak. Three is a winning streak.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
But it is.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
That was as thorough a completed performance as they put
out there, maybe since in terms of a game that
had some stakes to it, right, since twenty one when
they won their first three games of the year. I
was more impressed with the defense than I will with anything,
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because Dallas has an elite offense and the defense shut
him down and that was that was awesome. They made
him one dimensional and that one dimension was basically George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But man Rico Daddell, what do you have?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Fifteen carries of at least seven yards?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes, fifteen of seven or more Dallas didn't have one.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
That was just unbelievable. And the offensive line is the
best performance in terms of running by their offensive line
to day. And they pass blocked fine. It was the
best performance I have seen from that offensive line in
a long time. Harriet, the Corgi is also very exciting.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh that's big for us, man Adam, I have a question,
are we insane too in this jumble in this jumbled
up NFC. Are Mack and I in the positive fancy
right now happy where this is going? Are we insane
to look at the standings and like even think about
this team being a playoff team?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Insane?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah? No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I wouldn't say that puts you in an insane category.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No asylum, no asylum.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
But hey, look, you know there have been so few
opportunities for Panthers fans to care about the standings.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That enjoy it while it.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Lasts, go to New York or actually go to New Jersey.
Beat the Jets, because the Jets are deathwarmed over beat
them be four and three. When was the last time
they were over five hundred seven games into a season?
Because that wasn't a case of twenty one, You probably
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have to go back to eighteen yep, the last time
they were over five hundred seven games into a season.
So go ahead, beat the Jets and enjoy it and
enjoy where you know, because the schedule gets real after that.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So but I mean, who knows, get.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
A little confidence. I think the improvement in the defense
is noticeable. I think when you run the ball first,
you get to see that Bryce Young can be an
effective quarterback. You know, looking around the league, how many
really good quarterbacks are there?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Are there six really good quarterback in the NFL? And
everybody else?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
It's a week the week basis everybody?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Goldie, Oh well, Josh Allen was good to last night.
What a What a crazy league?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Though?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
That Atlanta team that did that offensively didn't score a
point against the Panthers, Like AC brought that up on
the text line, like what a crazy league. By the way, Goldie,
here is your answer, and how dare you forget the
work of one Kyle Allen twenty nineteen, The Panthers started
zh and two, won their next four games, then lost
badly to San Francisco, but they were four and three
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at that point, and then they proceeded to lose every
game the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Oh man, you just picked out one bat season.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh god, anyway, and you wonder why you actually we
don't wonder why. We know why we're excited at three
and three, Goldie, What do you think of the talk
to us about the Hurricanes, because we might have been
obsessing over the Panthers in college football since the weekend.
What do you think of of the start to the
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season for the Canes? What sticks out to you?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
The first game was much better than the second game.
First game, they really didn't allow the Devils very much.
Second game they were sort of a mess with the puck,
and even though Philadelphia didn't generate a ton of offense,
Philadelphia had way too many scoring chances or the head
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coaches liking, and Carolina was somewhat lucky to win the
game when that overtime goal was waived off for being
for having goaltender interference and then Carolina won it like
thirty five seconds later. Oh, shut up, Harriet. She did
not think it was goaltender interference clearly, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So I think it's been good. A little bit of
an issue right now.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I don't think Jacob slaven is going to play tonight
in San Jose.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He's dealing with some.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Sort of a lower body issue. We'll see what how
long that's gonna keep him out. Uh, he's the best
defensive defenseman in the NFL, in the NFL, in the NHL,
and he probably would be the best defensive defenseman in
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
He's so good.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
But so that's gonna be something to watch. Like for me,
I'd rather see him not play the first, you know,
two months of the season and make sure that he's
as close to one hundred percent as he could possibly
be for the last, you know, four months into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Adam, I have a hypothetical question because, as you know,
James Franklin fired by Penn State, So a lot of
UNC fans are already kind of angle with Hey, could
James Franklin potentially, if they moved on from Belichick, replace
him as the tar heel head coach? But not looking
as this, If if State were to move on from
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Dave Dorin. I think James Franklin would be a great
fit in Raleigh coaching the pack. If you could place
James Franklin as the head coach of NC State or
UNC where would he fit best at in this hypothetical world.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I'm going to give you a little backstory on James
frank Okay, James Franklin, before he was the head coach
at Vanderbilt, was an assistant coach and the head coach
in waiting at the University of Maryland. The athletic director
at that time was Debbie Yal. Now she's no longer
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the ad at State, but she long long loved James
Franklin and she wanted him to follow Ralph Frigin at Maryland.
When Debbie Yal left Maryland, Fregin was still there and
the incoming ad, who I think was Kevin train Wreck
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I don't wear pants. When I interviewed Sean Miller Anderson
and they decided that James Franklin was not for them,
which is a brilliant idea because Franklin is really a
great coach, but he does have some limitations.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
He does.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He would fit right in at NC State since they
don't win big games either.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So he could go there. But I think.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Franklin would be a great fit at NC State. But
I don't know that that's where I mean. I think
Franklin is going to get another There'll be big jobs
opening up. I think Franklin's going to get another big job.
But look, if NC State came calling, that would be
a great fit for him. It's going to sound weird,
(29:14):
but unless Bill Belichick wants to walk away on his own,
I think he's the head coach of Carolina next year.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Do you so?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
What did you think about the rash of reports last
week and now Bill? You know the school and Bill
denied it. Bill had his presser yesterday. What makes you
think that he's still going to be there next season?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Because his ego doesn't want to give up, and the
ego of the people who are really making the decisions
at UNC don't want to admit that they were potentially wrong.
They've invested this much. They're going to try and see
it through. I think what they would like and they
(29:53):
might try to do this. Some people try to create
an environment in which Bill does not want to stay.
And if they do that, like if they could convince,
if they could you know, kind of orchestrate the firing of.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Mike Lombardy then Bill Mike go interesting that.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think that's what it would take interesting. I mean,
I could be completely wrong, but that's my read on
this situation is that Bill wants to try to make
this work. The big money people at UNC think that
this would work if given time, even though they thought
it would have already started working. And I don't know
(30:36):
if it ever will. I mean, I think the odds
are against it. But as I've said from the beginning,
I am here for this experiment because I think it
will be fascinating to watch, and I really don't care
if it works or not. I'm here for the show.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
It is content. There is no denying, no matter how
it goes from here. All Right, Goldie, you are demand.
We will talk to you next week. Tell Harriet to
chill out, all right?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Well, and she and her brother are are going to the.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Spot today, all right, good she should be happier then
she should be happy, all right, Goldie, be good man.
We will talk to you next week. Okay, So a
couple of things now, I'm reminded bone of all the Texters,
I forget how it came up. On the show that
went off on Corky's and said how horrible and annoying
they are. Cory's I get compared to Corky's. I am
reminded of those texts. Now you get compared of a
(31:29):
to a Corky. So now now I think I understand Texters.
I forgot to warn you before the segment that Victoria
Adam Gold's producer told me yesterday to not refer to
it as a win streak with Adam around.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
He's Adam. Oh, he's that one of his staff.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I forgot to warn you one of his one of
his things is you have to win three and on
his show, I'll tell you, I mean, don't call it
a win streak. That's Roley. This is Charlotte. All right,
we take two. You know what I mean. I've tried
to call one a streak before two here in Charlotte,
I've tried to stretch the definition of strength just to
fit our needs. The one other thing I wanted to say,
we have not mentioned this, but in the two days since, Uh,
(32:07):
how about the report over the weekend from Diana Rossini
that uh, that Bill Belichick and some of his Uh,
I'm sure Lombardi and company at UNC think that a
lot of the leaks have been coming from Patriots people
that are basically trying to sabotage Bill Belichick. I'm telling you, Dave,
(32:30):
the Bill side, the Bill side, you're consumed by the
Patriots artank. That's an obsessed min You wonder you wonder
mag who may have an obsessive attitude towards something like that.
Maybe someone close to Bill who keeps bringing up to
Bill how he was treated by the Patriots. Perhaps I
think she's got his ear. So the more she acts
(32:51):
about how he was treated, maybe that's how this thing is.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
These things she's probably not on.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
She's definitely probably attention to all the stuff and not
telling him what's going on. But you can easily see
his ego to you know what I mean. You can
easily see him being petty too. You know, when we
come back, how should the Panthers handle Reco and Cuba?
Is a trade? The ultimate answer? Sports Radio ninety seven wfnzs.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
What it most likely and the only real conclusion we
can make is when they do come back and they
do split the backfield, Ricodetto's calves will not crimp in
the fourth quarter like once again, they did the day right.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So I'm guessing it's going to be a actual committee
where they just let the hot hand ride out because
I hear you that they can't like away for Ricodado entirely.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Also just don't see team's bench their captains very often toos.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
That's a big point because you know some runners are
their most effective after we've got seven, eight nine carries
underneath their belt, and you know Rico Datto's punishing Sow
along with his offensive line, that might be the case.
So I think it would be pretty frustrating, and it's
only natural for a rushing performance to drop down from
here over these last two weeks. Again, two hundred and
thirty four yards and two hundred and thirty nine tol
(34:10):
yards over the last two weeks, So I think you
have to continue to start Rico down on once Youbopper
comes back.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
That is our former intern, lifelong Carolina Panthers fan Charlotte
native Josh Norris and his co host Hayden Winks. That
is fantasy football with Josh Norris and Hayden Winks incidentally
from the Underdog Sports brand, and they got a little
fantasy minded in there when they start talking about like
RB two and flax and all that stuff. But I
(34:40):
thought it was interesting because it is the number one thing,
Bone Panther, one of the number one things we're talking
about around here, which is what do you do and
how do you make it work when Rico, when Chuba
comes back to join Rico, and it could happen this
week against the Jets Bony, and then you also have
the question of what do you do long term? Cuba's
(35:02):
on a long term deal. Rico signed a one year deal.
We've got people on the text line who have said,
in the last you know, twenty four hours, how about
you try to sign Rico too. We've got people that say,
why don't you try to sign trade Cuba and then
sign Rico? Why don't you try to trade Rico to
a team that wants a rental stud running back. Let's
start first, Bone with the playing time. I think you
(35:23):
and I agree on the playing time thing. But like,
explain to everybody your theory on if your coach Canalis
and Cuba comes back this week, how do you handle
the dynamic, the carries who starts, how do you handle
all of that?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Cuba's the backup for a while until Rico slows down.
He's way too hot. It's not like he's had a
couple of nice games. He's had two historically great games,
both in the franchise history and nearly in the league.
When you look at total yardage back for what he's
done in a two game span, I'm not messing with Rico.
He's running that well. He's a difference maker. You're winning
(36:02):
games with him. I love Cuba, and I also know
if there's any guy Mack that can understand and handle
it with the utmost class as a leader, it's Cuba.
There's no attitude, there's no diva nature. You know he's
going to root on his guy. So I flip the
percentages around, keep ETN the same every once in a while,
but I make Rico the main dog, Cuba the backup,
(36:25):
and if Rico slows down or it's not working, He've
always got Cuba there to take back over. But right now,
I'm not trading the guys. I'm not moving anybody. That
make a whole lot of sense. The thing that makes
the most sense for me is Rico is your main
guy for right now until he slows down.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
If he does slow down.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I do want to point out that when we last
left the Cuba and Rico Show, it was almost a
fifty to fifty split in that game. Right before this,
it was the New England Loss right, and it was
like ten to nine carries. So it was in this
and even the snaps were close to being similar. I
(37:02):
left that game feeling because remember we were saying, you
got to give Cuba the bulk of the carries. Ironically,
it's funny how that is aged, but like we were
concerned that they were not getting the boast out of
both guys because they were trying to make it a
fifty to fifty split.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
So I do.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Wonder Bone, if Dave Canalis envisions this as a fifty
to fifty split at some point. Me personally, Bone, I
would like I would start it off where Rico's getting
about sixty seven percent of the carries, Rico's getting two
to every one for Cuba, but I would literally hot
(37:39):
handed Cuba's running better than Rico in the middle of
a game. I would then flip the script and I
would ride Cuba a little bit like I would try
to do it like that, where you get into each
individual game Rico's the starter for now you get in it,
but in each individual game it can change and it's
going to be very interesting to see the way is handled.
(38:00):
Canalis said on Panther Talk last night. He said that
they have actually started looking back at some of the
running back time shares past and president.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
How they have worked.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
And then the boys on Panther Talk brought up, hey,
you have one, right, Aaron, double trouble and Canal has
got so excited about that.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Is that's right? So I could it be a double
trouble bunk? Can they get this thing? They had a season.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm not saying it's going to be quite like this,
but they had a season where they both went over
eleven hundred yards in the same season. Can they Can
they get the best out of both guys together? And
that's when I think, and then you keep guys fresh
and then Rico's not cramping.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Can they pull that off?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know ultimate about you talk about taking pressure off
of Bryce and what he has to do. Both those
guys are running my migracious Bryce had really just managed
things and hopefully not turn it over and do what
he has to do and win games.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
That way.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The comparison that a lot of people want to make
currently both on Twitter and on the texta line, and
I thought you did a nice job last week of
explaining why it may not be an exact comparison. It's
Gibbs and Montgomery in Detroit, but I don't know if
it's the same thing exactly, because I feel like these
two guys here are very rhythm based runners, especially that
(39:11):
we're seeing with Rico the last couple of games. Montgomery
and Gibbs, I think it's a different style of tendom
than these two guys. They compliment each other. I feel
like Montgomery and Gibbs. Gibbs has a little more of that,
you know, speed and wiggle and all that. I feel
like like that's thunder and lightning kind of to me.
I agree, this feels like thunder and thunder. This feels
(39:32):
like some thunder for your ass. We bringing it right
at your heine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And I like that.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I don't want this storm anymore. You don't think that
should be the thing.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Thunder for your ass should be the nickname of the duo,
because you know, bone, if they get going, some of
you're trying to do it already. If they get going,
you know that giving them the nickname is the next thing.
Thunder and ass, you know, but I'm not thunder for
your ass. But anyway, like that's just they're very similar back,
so I think nothing changes when you put them on
(40:04):
the field. I do you think Rico's a little bit
better receiver, clearly, but like in terms of running style,
I think it's the same man. They have subtle differences,
but I think it's very similar. But I think that works,
Like Canalys has said it, we can run the same place.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
For each of these guys. You know, you don't have
to change anything up. But people are already giving up nicknames.
Don't they have to earn the nickname as a tail
before they get the nickname?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Please?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Please please please no nickname double Trouble two point oh
please please please?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Now do you why do you not want to give
them a nickname?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Because I just it just never stops, Like, once we
go nickname, we never go back, do you?
Speaker 5 (40:42):
So you don't think they should get a nickname if
we're like balling out and those two are like, let's let.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Them ball out as a duo and then we'll earn
the nickname. Okay, let's see them let's let them. Let's
let them become a duo. If they do, then we'll
go from there. Didn't I will say the lion's nickname
is tremendous sonic and knuckles. Yes, that's a great nickname. Yes,
didn't we weren't our guys.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Didn't our guys try to be smashing Dash only to
be told that already existed in Tennessee?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, that happened something like that. Who was smashing dash?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Chris Johnson, Wendal Whitelendale White, Yeah, see it as a
lot of those back tanums are that sort of thing, right,
the thunder and lightning type.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
But anyway, this is your boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
So what do you think about the trading stuff though, Bone,
because a lot of people Matty Westside says, thunder for
your ass is the only nickname?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Answer about print the ta sharks temper. Everyone's obsessed with that.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I don't want to know where the lightning's going.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
So anyway, Bone, what do you think about the different
trade ideas here? Because apparently we can't have two nice
things at the same position simultaneously. Well, scratch yourself, you've
got any interest in trading either? One of these guys
as the season goes on.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Makes no sense because Tuba's got a contract and you
know you paid them, still a good place. Who's gonna
maybe even take on that contract right now? Also, Rica,
it's one thing that both guys were signed and you
wanted to move off a contract. Rico's on a one year,
two million dollar deal, then some incentives. Rico's also mac
(42:15):
gonna want a big bag in the offseason. So if
you traded Juba now and then a team came in
with a huge offer for Rico, well you're you're maybe
he wants to be here quot to I don't know
what you're tempting fate there that you could lose both
guys and then you're dependent on ETN and then you're
praying that Brooks got healthy. I'd rather have at least
(42:35):
one going down the line that end up potentially possibly
losing both guys. Maybe you wouldn't, but the risk of that,
I don't think it's worth trading for right now or
trading them out of here.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Rico is on a one year, two point seven million
dollar deal. I'm gonna be honest with you, I believe
he has already earned that like I believe it's all gravy.
So like I understand what people like there are Texters saying,
but Rica, he's probably gonna leave. He's probably gonna get
a bigger offer and leave. So don't you want to
get something for him? I feel like bone, he has
(43:06):
already paid for that contract.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, So like he's gonna get a major offer the
way he's running as the backup.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
He is, instead of trying to get like and what
can you get for a guy that's seen as a rental?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Right, I don't think he can get that much.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
So I would just keep getting great value out of
what you're paying him and see where this Rico Cuba
thing takes us.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
All Right, I'm not allowed to stay the P word,
all right, I'm not allowed.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Jim mor can say off, but I'm not allowed to
say off that period. I want you'all think I'm getting
dirty here, not allowed to say it, but like, let's
just see how that tandem, where that tandem takes us,
and then go from there. I'm also gonna say this,
and I don't know, you say he's gonna get paid.
Bony often running running back free agent market like often
(43:55):
Shaksha in terms of people not getting paid. So we'll
just see how this plays out. I also, you know,
would keep an open mind towards paying him and having
both guys in the future. I don't know if that's
the way you go. You got Brooks at eat and
as young guys. But I'm definitely to make a short
story long here. I'm not in a hurry to try
(44:15):
to get rid of either guy. I want to try
to see if we can create double trouble too. That's
what I want to see them try. Is that your
your nickname present? Just right now?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Mac?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Every single text is nicknamed? Why are you so bothered
by nickname? You don't see the fun and nicknames? Read
a few off? If we're going to break off there,
what do we have here? Canadian shaking? Is that?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
What?
Speaker 3 (44:37):
That's not bad? Canadian shaking?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Maid and McQueen, boom and zoom h and d for
heavy duty thunder something with donkey rc oh okay, donkey
and Diddy?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (44:50):
What what are they like that one? I can't do
that one?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
All right, we'll figure this out during break when we
come back. Panther's Great Jake, the wom talks about the
team heading in the right direction. Where has bryce grown
the most? Settled down on the growth jokes, Where has
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