December 8, 2025 • 41 mins
In the final hour, Mac & Bone examine the updated Panthers tie breaker scenarios for the race for the NFC South, Connor O'Gara joins to recap Championship Saturday and the CFP bracket, the guys preview the night in sports, they read funny texts, & more
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ, macam Bone with you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, we got we.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Gotta talk about something that sounds very special that is
getting ready to grace our television sets. Bone coming up
December tenth at nine pm. This week it is a
beautiful thirty for thirty entitled Boo Yah, a Portrait of
Stuart Scott, the Story of the late Great Stuart Scott.
(00:42):
And our next guest produced it and directed it. He
is Andre Gaines, and he's nice enough to join us
and tell.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Us what we're gonna see on ESPN. Andre, Thanks for coming.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
On, man.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
How you doing good?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Good?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How are you? Thanks for having me? We're doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Appreciate you, man, Appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Can you turn that down? Turn out to talk about
something whatever? You're listening to the great our teller hearing
something that.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
We're hearing ourselves echo here, let me put them on hold,
FY sort that out. We're hearing our sales echo. The
last thing I need is Mac talking back to me again.
Now I know what you deal with God. That that
dude there I was listening to sound like I'm noxious.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Now a full Mac takeover. I now have to listen
to Mac while on hold and they can't get out
of their ears.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, ombnoxious jerk that he was there. Seriously that got
Mack was listening to a filmmaker. We can't figure out
how to talk to the filmmaker on anyway. It felt
like the old thing where people would listen to their
radio when calling sports talks. That's what it kind of
felt like, what Red Fox would call the show and
you have to tell them turns radio, turn it down.
I don't know, is like the phone line reverberating back
to him. I don't know what's going on. That's an
(01:58):
odd situation. Fitny Marvels on the case, and I blame
the CFP committee. I believe somehow I'll come up with somehow.
They're responsible bon because they're responsible for everything this morning.
I intro too though, by the way I see, I
thought it was I thought it was solid.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Are we good now, Fitty, we got them? Andre? You
got us good now?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He may can you turn down with in the background
they're here in the necko of themselves. Yeah, I don't
have anything in the background. I was just put them
back on hold. They're trying to sort it out. Yeah,
we might have to do this. I feel like we're
listening to a NASCAR crew talk to the driver right now.
I think, Fitty, we might have to do this another time,
might have to try to sort this out for another time,
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because I think they wanted to be out of the interview.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
By nine oh nine.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's almost nine oh six right now, yep, so maybe
we just run, try to reset, reschedule whatever. I don't
know what's going on. They're confused now, I'm confused.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I can't wait to watch this thirty for thirty though
on Stuart Scott though, which airs Wednesday night at nine,
So I cannot wait to see you. They got a
lot of great people talking about them. I think there's
a core relation back between impact of Jimmy V in
the nineties and now Stuart Scott for this generation there.
So there's a lot of interesting stuff to talk about
here about Stuarts. Stuart Scott was a rock star. Man,
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he was an absolute rock star. He was he was cool, right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't look at the I don't look at any
ESPN anchors now and think, man, they're cool. Stuart Scott
was someone you looked at and you thought that dude
is cool. You know, whether it's the sayings, whether it
was the way he carried himself.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
He was.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
He was one on one man and then like he
went from being this cool cat bone when he was
an anchor on ESPN to then being a hero for
so many a type of guy that showed the strength
in his battle with cancer that a lot of people
that were cancer survivors or battlers themselves could relate to.
So which might have been which was probably the coolest
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damn thing he did. And take any catchphrase after that?
And Andre who did the film that we were trying
to get there? He did the two s Go Bars,
thirty for thirty, he did he was part of the
OJ I'm sorry that's the uh, that's the thirty for
thirty part that he did the the Jackie Robinson for
the History Channel one recently. So he's got a lot
of sports in his background. There, Fiddy, what happened to
(04:15):
Andre Gaines. We're just going to reschedule with them. It
was like nine oh seven, So that's all right, it's uh,
hopefully we can get him on before before it happens.
Is there any truth to the rumor that he has
left the show protesting the way you just treated Willy
on the air?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Is there any truth to that or no? I think so?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh Man apologized publicly except apology.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Move on?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
How come most of your wife is apologizing to Willy
or vice versa. Like I feel like I feel like
you can always tell when you guys are about to
have something go on?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Here?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
What is the best comparison for Fiddy who has broken
off his friendship with Willy?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Right now? What is the best? Is it Billy Martin
and the Yankees? Bone?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Is it a couple like a famous couple that keeps
breaking up and getting together? I can't think of one
off five on. It's Ronnie and Samy from the Jersey.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Show, is okay?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I was looking for the perfect comparison, maybe Ross and
Rachel from Friends.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But who's Rachel in this situation? You are both either
Ross or Ronnie from the Jersey Til.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So like if two Rosses were dating each other and
kept breaking up, that's what this would be.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Two nerds? Oh Man?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Anyway, all right, let's get to let's talk about the
Panthers a little bit. We got Connorroghera from Saturday down South. Uh,
he's going to talk to us about the playoff situation.
I will tell him that that that you and I Bone,
and many people out there listening in Charlotte, North Carolina.
I think Bama is getting some very very preferable treatment,
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and we'll see how he responds. I believe he might
push back against that, but we will bring that up
to him. We'll bring up the whole Notre Dame Miami
situation and the group of five thing. What do you
do with group of fives? Does there need to be
a change there on that one? I want to talk
a little bit about the Panthers now, Bone, because they
didn't even play, and they were able to climb a
half game and get into first place in the standings
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against the Bucks. Somebody asked me, somebody says, mac Bone
and Fittie already picked the Panthers go to the playoffs.
You have been too you have been too gutless to
do it. Did yesterday's Bucks loss finally make you come
around to the believer's side?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I don't want to do that. I don't know. Do
you want me doing that? Bone? No? Are we?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Are?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We good with me staying measured about it?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I honestly i'd rather you just I'd rather you stay
as measured as possible.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I like there's and we talked about this in a
seven o'clock hour. You can't watch that game as a
Panther fan and not get excited and not get upbeat,
and not watch them and watch Baker who clearly is
going through something right now, Go fourteen of thirty and
watch their passing game, Bone, and watch them go zero
five on on fourth down like it's You can't watch
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that and not think, oh, shoot, we got a real
chance to win this thing. So whether you were not
making proclamations like Bone and Fitty of we're going to
the playoffs like y'all did last week, whether you have
been a little too bashful, I'm not sure we're there
to do I'm not sure it's our time just yet,
that sort of thing you had to watch yesterday and
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have a big old grint on your face, because this
Bucks team does not look that formidable right now.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I don't know, Bone, Are we consistent enough? Like I
watched the Saints team play yesterday that beat us one time,
So I'm nervous already about this coming Sunday. Are we
consistent enough, are we seasoned enough? Are we ready to
do this? I'm not sure, but I do know this.
The Bucks are an extremely get a bull foe.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
They are they are, and they've having trouble despite getting
guys back, and they'll get more guys back. They're having
trouble turning it back on again. It feels like they
hit that that stretched where they lost to really good
football teams like New England and Buffalo and the Rams.
But they're having trouble Mac or Revenant back up even
for a weaker team like the Saints. So I don't
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really have I'm not saying the Pantricks can't lose to
the Bucks, but I think there are a lot more,
even than we realize.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Even a couple of weeks ago lost five of them.
We always thought there were seven.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I always thought they were a little bit ahead, even
recently after yesterday, I don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think they're very even, very.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Even so gettable, whether it's the injuries to the left
side of their offensive line, to Baker Mayfield. Now, Mike
Evans will come back and make a difference, right, But
does he play this week for them bone on Thursday night?
Do they wait for him to come back? Is there
a reacclamation period for them for him when he comes back.
I don't think he can dispute that they've lost five
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of seven, and yeah, some of those games were it's
good teams, Bone, but look at the points they've been
giving up. New England got twenty eight on a Buffalo
forty four, the Rams got thirty four on them. They've
been giving up over twenty nine points a game these
last they're twenty third thinks last four games, last five
five games. They're twenty third in points per game allowed
right now, and they're their numbers in general on both
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sides have really fallen off to either middle of the
pack or just down right back. Yet what do they
do great? There is there anything this team does great?
I think the best thing statistically about them is their
run defense is sixth in the league. But I watched
the Saints yesterday run for almost one hundred and forty
on them, like they looked like a team that could
be run on. And when you look at their stats, Bone,
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that's the thing they do best. I don't think there
is there anything else. Their top ten in takeaways and giveaways,
they've been very good in the takeaway giveaway game. Baker
at a bad interception yesterday, but they are fourth and turnover margin. Overall,
they're fourth in giveaways per game on offense and seventh
in takeaways, So the Panthers are going to have to
take care of the football against them. But like, yeah,
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you look at everything else. Statistically, they are, eh, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Eighteenth in points per game on off twenty second, in
yards per game nineteen to third down conversions twenty eighth
and fourth down conversions twenty six, in red zone scoring,
rush yards per game they're twenty their twentieth, and rush
yards per game pass yards per game they are their twentieth.
And that's a big falloff, MAAC from where they were
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in September to where they are now. They were up
there in a lot of categories. Baker Hell was an
MVP type guy. They have just fallen off way either
they reverted to the meat or they've fallen way below
in every major category.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Now, don't kid is this dude says, I couldn't tell
if you were reading off the Panthers uh stats or
the Bucks tuochet you Panther hat and bum whoever you are, sir.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I will just say this bone.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna dispute that many categories
the Panthers are middle of the pack or below middle
of the pack in But I think the point is
the Panthers feel like they are legit in the neighborhood
of the Bucks. Like it doesn't when you watch the
Bucks playing a lot of its injury induced, I'm sure,
but when you watch the Bucks Playbone, I think the
point is it feels like this division is up in
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the air. It doesn't feel like it's the plucky little
Panthers that are like out of their league, not at all,
what I mean. And I think that's the point we're
trying to make. So I'm not on here front and
trying to act like the Panthers have some amazing you know,
statistical rankings all over either. But I think and I
think that's what Bone is saying too, is Man, the
Bucks are gettable. Are we going to be able to
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take advantage of it? Are we ready to do that yet?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Bone? Or do we need another year? Maturreing? Do we
need another year Dan Morgan hitting that roster?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Maybe we do, but man, it feels like we are
right there with them.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
This thing feels like a damn toss up. It does.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Now we need to address the audience because there's a
number of people that either want us to run like
a Tampa Bay like montage of Misery, or they want
us to victory dance for Tampa. And respectfully, that's one
of the dumbest ideas we could possibly do, considering the
fact that the Panthers play that team that beat them
this week. Do you know how much you will come
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back and haunt us if we're running miseries and dance
in for games the Bandits were involved in. I say
absolutely not, Hondo, no shot, we're dancing.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I can't imagine most listeners want that, though, Like there's
a few that want us to mock the Bucks. A.
We haven't done anything yet, We're just tied with them.
We have two games to go. This could backfire in
the Bucks can win the Division. B We're gonna mock
the Bucks for a loss to the Saints, which A
we already did and be we could do again this weekend.
That feels like something, especially if I get involved in it.
(12:32):
Bone maybe you and Fitddy could dance without repercussion. It
feels like the sports gods would see Captain Curse dancing
and be like, oh no, Curse, Oh no, you don't
get away with this, sir, your team loses now by
twenty point.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Now, it just feels like something y'all don't. We should
not want me involved in now. If they beat the
Bucks down the line, it's game on. Where we might
dress like pirates, Captain Kurz and Bonebeard. We could be
dancing like pirates. I could in a Neverland pirate costumes.
Maybe I don't know, Yoho ho a bottle of rum?
How about we drink a bottle of rum during a
victory dance. Bro, I'm gonna tell you, Fiddy has been
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begging for permission to dance naked if we sweep the Bucks.
I can't promise anything about that dance. Bone I can't
promise like I just I cannot promise anything. If you
go to the most excited victory dance ever, if you.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Go to the street and get one hundred signatures, the
people that want to see you dance naked, they bring
that back to it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It may be me and Fitty both day naked if
we sweep them, Like, I don't know, I Fiddy could
get it over a broom like there could be just
a lot of looks a sweep. There could just be
a lot of things bone. What it mean the first time,
Matt if that's actually a Saturday night date most weekends.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Last time he had an object, he got stolen, it
thrown into dumpster.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh that's true, Smoke Ludwig or Flounder. Whoever stole your
blow up though, will just steal your broom and take
that home. I'm just saying, if we sweep the bucks
by level of glee after what we've been through here
for the last seven years or so, is going to
be through.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The damn roof. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna go
ahead and say what's just worry about Tampa Bay first?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Though, I mean better I go now there I go.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But we also have a lot of people here that
are chiming in about the Fiddy Willy relationships and coach
Kay get a chime in on it. A lot of
people have things say about that. We'll have to circle
back to that during the like wrap up segment. People
don't even know the story of why Fiddy has broken
off the friendship with Willy, So there's a lot. There's
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a lot to tell here, I believe, like to our
audience before we go to break back, I need this
text cannot wait from a seven oh four number, Fitty,
I need you uh attentive here quote I'm on an
alcohol ankle monitor. But if we sweep the bucks, all
drink rum, I'll dance naked with Fiddy.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And go back to Jay.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's the kind of of enthusiasm we're looking for. My
uncle willing to put your freedom on the line. Now
you think you're related to this guy, Fitty seven o four, baby,
just come in and dance with the ankle monitor. We
don't need to get you sent back to jail. Just
come in and do to dance with us. If we
sweep them, we don't need we need to get you
get back into Pokey before we get.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
You in here to dance. We need to know what
what are you in for exactly. Oh, that's a good point.
We need to kind of do a background here. And
he can't be like can't be like murder. He wouldn't
be on an ankle monitor. I'm not saying it's alcohol related,
I think right, because he says I'm an alcohol so yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's fine. I don't know. Maybe we should check, Maybe
we should Yeah, the sign.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Him India probably need to know bring anybody so bring
I'll empty out a whole local prison and dance. If
we're beat the Bucks. He allowed to leave? Can he drive?
We have to go get him. There's a lot of logistics, Yeah,
there are. There's a lot of things that we need
to work out here. This texture says, if we sweep
the Bucks, how about Fitty and will he danced together
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as a sign of Panther solidarity? Dirty dancing, dirty tick,
put baby, I've had good time. Why don't you let
Willie put Fitty in the corner? If that happens when
we come back.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Connor O'Gara Saturday Down South, he reacts to the college
football playoff rankings and more. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All Right, I tried to talk this through it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Bone and Fitty, I think we know what we're talking about,
but that's always to be debated. A lot of people
are asking Bone about tie breakers with the Panthers and
the Bucks tie What if they split? What if they
go with the same record and the rest of their games?
What if they end up tied at the end of
the season, because now divisional they had their second divisional loss.
We have two divisional losses, So what if we split.
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What if we each beat our remaining division teams us
the Saints, them, the Falcons. If we end up tied,
what comes after divisional tie breakers? And is going to
get to common opponents? The Panthers, they have three uncommon opponents.
The Panthers went two and one of those games, and
the Bucks went one and two in those games, which
means if they end up tied, the Bucks will have
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been one game better in the common opponent group, which
means the Bucks would still have the damn tiebreaker. Because
I came in here with hopes that maybe we would
have a shot at the tiebreaker if the Bucks lost yesterday,
it looks like if we end up tied, the Bucks
will have the common opponent the common opponents.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Tiebreaker, So we might have to break out the broom
on those cats. Bony.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Also, don't lose to the Saints either, that'll help things
out along the way. You definitely don't want to lose
to the Saints, and then beat the Bucks. That'll help
out as well. And then beat Seattle and then beat
the Bucks again. Pretty simple. I'm on the field, I'm
in the trenches on the field. Yeah, I noticed you
didn't want to get into those tiebreakers. The blank stairs
I got from you and Fitty as I was trying
to work through the tiebreaker scenario was amazing because usually
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usually that's my five minutes all. It looked like I
brought calculus up to you guys. Yeah, I didn't sign
up for thank you during the Franks. The NFL, hey,
and the NFL is the easy postseason to figure out, bone,
that's the easy one. The college football one is fifty
times harder to figure out and convoluted, and we're all
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trying to do that this Monday morning. Our next guest,
Connor Ogara Saturday down South Saturday down South dot Com,
is here to help us try to make some sense
of what the committee did yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Connor, how you doing, man? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I'm doing well. I'm still a bit confused, surprised, just
blown away that this process played out the way that
it did in year two of the twelve team playoffs.
But you know, I do think that there is at
least a path moving forward that kind of makes sense
for those of us on the outside looking in, and
it's just getting rid of Tuesday ranking shows. So if
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that's what all this leads to that, I'm in favor.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's interesting because even Kirk Kerbstreet, who apparently doesn't want
to have to zoom in with those guys on the
on these shows anymore, even he suggested.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Kurt Affords a job though, I.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Mean for god.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Uh Pepavakua ad I of Notre Dame said that, so
let's start.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Let's start with there.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Mike, you're obviously alluding to the fact that every dang
rankings until this one, Notre Dame, despite the head dad
loss to Miami, was ahead of them. Neither plays this
weekend and they jump him, Like, what did you think
of that?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, ultimately, you want the selection committee to get right.
The problem is that the process that it took them
to actually get this right makes no sense whatsoever. I
mean absolutely none. Let's let's just cut to the chase here.
The selection committee thought and hoped that Miami would suffer
a third loss and they would never have to deal
with this situation because everything that's happened since then, suggested
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that the selection committee was basically like, we really hope
that people don't go back to that ranking, wherein Miami
was at eighteen and Notre Dame was at ten, even
though I don't know if you guys heard this, but
Miami had the head to head against Notre Dame and
a tackle football and so like you could tell me, oh,
you know what, we didn't value the head to head
until they were right next to each other. Why, like,
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why in the world does that make any sort of sense?
And those on the outside looking in are like, it
doesn't make sense that Miami was moved up at every
single ranking except the one going into the conference championship,
wherein they stayed at the same exact spot, and then
now they get moved up. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever,
despite the fact that I think everybody kind of feels
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like they got it right in Miami getting left out
because the selection committee initially messed up would have been
even more maddening. So I don't know, the problem is
they're just making this up as they go and everybody
can see that.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Connor are you surprised that in this process Oklahoma was
it more scrutinized than they were.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, because they have that win at Alabama. They have
that win and that's really important. I do think that
offensively speaking, nobody wants to see this team play football.
I mean, really, they are a tough watch, and the
problem with Oklahoma is that they're I don't know what
they're like offensive success rate numbers ended up being, but
whenever they score, it's just like a random huge chunk
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play to Isaiah Satania and he takes it like eighty
yards to the house. So there's a very good chance
that if you just spend the majority of your Saturday
watching the Oklahoma offense, you don't actually see anything. You
go to the bathroom and miss they're only big play
the day. So look, they're an unbelievably well coached defensive team.
Outside of that, it's a really, really rough go for
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this team. But I wasn't necessarily surprised because that win
against Alabama really elevated their floor, and ironically enough, it
earns them a rematch with Alabama, this time being in Norman.
So I'm not necessarily surprised that they weren't all of
a sudden like dropping out of the top ten or
something like that, considering they had that unbelievably big road win.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Rogara Saturday down South dot Com with us here talking
about the playoff mess, I'm sure we'll get into, you know,
possible tweaks to the formula.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It seems like people are already.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Looking at those two group of fivers and saying, hold on, now,
we definitely got to change something. But I want to
ask about Alabama because I think, and listen, you know,
full disclosure, we have a lot of listeners out there
that you know, that have resentment for the SEC that
can't stay in Alabama. Hell I probably fall in that category,
but I want to talk through this with you. I
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believe right now Notre Dame in Miami are both better
teams than Alabama. I have not liked what we've seen
from Alabama's offense really in like the last five weeks
or so, and I think when you look at process Connor,
I thought they should not have moved up for blowing
a three score lead and then winning the game lad
against a five win Auburn team, And then I thought
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they probably should have dropped one spot yesterday or for
the way they lost to Georgia with the offense looking
so toothless. Do you disagree with that? Does it come
down to just you can't you can't leave out a
team that played for the SEC title. It's just you
can't do that because then you're we may have no
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SEC title game in the future, How do you view this?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I agree with all those points. I think it's
perfectly fair. I was in Atlanta, I got the it
watching that team. I came in saying, look, unless Alabama
loses thirty five to seven, like what are like, We're
not gonna leave Alabama of the playoffs. And then it
was twenty eight to seven, and I'm like, guys, this
was bad. This was the worst rushing performance Alabama has
had since at least nineteen forty, like in a game
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that they kind of felt like they had to have
and Alabama's not been any particularly good team. Now, I
agree Alabama shouldn't have necessarily moved up to number nine
after the win at Auburn, but they also shouldn't have
been behind Notre Dame in the first place. That was
the point that was maddening to watch the selection committee
value Notre Dame's resume, which Notre Dame lost to the
two best teams in their schedule. Alabama at least had
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the games stretch. They were the first team in SEC
history to beat four consecutive ap top twenty five teams
without any buys or rest. That mattered. They went on
the road and won at Georgia at night, which Georgia
had lost in that setting at night since two thousand
and nine. And George is really really good. So I
do agree that Alabama is trending in the absolute wrong direction.
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When Kaylen Debora is sitting up there saying, Hey, if
we hypothetically get a game in two weeks, we're gonna
be much healthier, We're gonna look like a much different team,
and Ty Simpsons saying we're the best offense in America.
I threw up in my mouth a little bit when
they said those things because it's not true. But I
still understand why the selection committee didn't want to punish them,
and they didn't want to have this revolt against conference championships.
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And should these financials be dictating this. No, but that's
the world that we're currently living in college football.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Connor, what'd you think of Greg Sankee telling Marty and
McGee this weekend and he thinks seven teams should have
been in from the SEC.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Well, speaking of throwing up in my mouth a little bit,
Look but just just put the whole SEC in and
just have one bid leagues for everybody? No, I mean,
this is this is absurd, and I you know, I
talked about how yesterday watching Alabama in two days ago,
watching Alabama in Atlanta gave me the ick. I got
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the yick from Texas when I went to the swamp
and watched that team lose at Florida the way that
they did, and so missed me with three loss Texas,
with that Florida loss and a blowout loss at Georgia
feeling like, oh, they have a case to be in
and they should stop scheduling premiere non conference games. And Vandy, look,
I'd want to see Vandy over like eight different teams
in this playoff. Okay, Like I would go to bat
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for Vandy if they had a real argument.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
For the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
But it's not the brand that's holding them back. It's
the fact that their resume hasn't aged as well as
they hope. They've kind of broken teams if you look
at the teams that they've beaten, and they've had fired coaches,
and they've had teams that have watched their season go sideways,
and it's just hasn't aged in the way that you
would hope a ten to two team would. And that's
more so the problem, more so than like, oh, well,
Vandy's just this team without any historic success. No, no, no,
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Like my alma mater, Indiana is the number one team
in college football, and nobody's debating that. Like, it's not
just brand identity, it's the fact that the resume just
hasn't necessarily lined up. So missed me with Greg, thank
you advocating for seven SEC teams.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
How do you feel now?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Listen, everybody, in fairness, everybody's advocating, advocating. However, I'm trying
to say that word. Manny Dias sat here in Charlotte,
you know, at a table in a press conference and
was calling out JMU on Saturday night. It was to
no avail obviously, as JMU gets in Duke with five losses,
how do you feel about that whole thing, like Duke
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versus JMU? And then how do you feel about the
fact that we're sitting here Like I was all about,
you know, getting a group of five team in here,
But the way this played out, two group of five teams,
two major underdogs out of four teams on the first
playoff weekend, it feels like there's there could be a
change coming around the band.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
What do you think, you know, what's even funnier is
if we didn't make that post year one change with.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
The top for the top four.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So yeah, we would have a group of five teams
get getting a bye, and that would be reality again.
But here's here's the thing that I come back to.
When all these decision makers were sitting down trying to
figure out, all right, what's the best way to decide
national champion with this expanded playoff, none of those scenarios
involved a five loss team winning a power conference championship,
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none of them. And so the fact that Duke won
this is an outlier. I mean, it really is. And
I love Manidaz like I've gone to bat for that
guy so many times. I had him on my show
back in April. I am such a big Manidaz fan.
But when he's sitting here telling me that, like, oh,
you can't put jmu in and you have to you
know reward, you know, acc teams with three losses or
even five losses, I'm like, no, you don't, you really don't.
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Let's see what this actually looks like with them on
this stage. It is so wild that it played out
this way. But you know, I don't really want to
hear the banging of the drum for the ACC until
we actually see the ACC do something that it hasn't
done in the twenty twenties, which is win a single
New Year's Six Bowl or a playoff game. They haven't
done that since twenty nineteen. So that's why the ACC
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is a one bid league. That's why the ACC was
sweating out selection Sunday, and that's why ultimately they're in
this spot because they had a five lost conference champ Do.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
You think the group of five you'd have their own playoffs?
How do you feel about that and where that's headed?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, I mean I don't think they're gonna get on
board with that because I still think just even I've
been trying to see if we can quantify this of
what is what would one group of five win in
the college football playoff mean for the future, Like would
it be worth a decade of knowing that their teams
are likely going to get their teeth kicked in? Like
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if just we saw like two Lane go to Ole
Miss and win that game in the first round, everybody
would would then pivot to Ole Miss and saye, see
this is what they are without Lane Kiffin. They beat
him forty five to ten in the first matchup. So
maybe that's not the best example there, but how much
weight would one group of five win in this on
that stage take Because it's different than Boise State doing
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what it did all those years, or UCF beating Auburn
and the Peach Bowl. It's different when there's still a
path to the national championship. And so that's what I
kind of wonder is there's still too much incentive for
that for them to just say, ah, we're going to
take our ball and go home and do the SCS thing.
I don't think that's necessarily imminent. It would have to
take a long time. Because hope is the thing that
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motivates everyone. It motivates dollars, it motivates fans, and so
I think as long as there's still that little bit
of hope for the group of five that they can
get on that stage and win, I think that they'll
want to stay in the playoff with the rest of
the power conferences.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's you know, the conversations are coming. Though.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This was drawn up that each power for conference Connor
got their champion and we went one of the little
guys in Well, now, this whole acc mess, the chaotic season,
the tiebreaker that didn't just put the highest ranked team
in like Miami could have been there. This is going
to lead to some interesting fallout and discussions. All right,
the website is set down south dot com. He is
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Connor O'Gara. Connor, thanks for coming on man, great jobs
sorting through all this, rubble man. We appreciate you, jentlem
then appreciate it all right, be good, Thank.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You, Connor.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There you go, Connor oghara. I just want to say
a couple of things Bone to Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And Duke fans.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All right, it appears that both of you we had
a Duke fan that proposed that are all the Notre
Dame fans and all the Duke fans team up and
jump me as I leave the building today, Bone, So
I would like to address both fan bases right now,
all right, Bone, yeah, because that would include two of
you that include Duke Bone and Golden Bot.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Why did you say it? Okay, just spit it out.
I believe Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Could have won the college football national championship. I honestly
believe they are that good of a team. So it
is a damn shame that they are left out again.
I certainly think like we had a text say Notre
Dame's better than Bama, Ole Miss and Oklahoma. I think
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Like their version now not the start of the season,
but now that they found themselves defensively right, they don't
run Car as much. They kind of started with trying
to treat Car as Riley Leonard. They now let Car
become his own quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They run.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They actually give Love the ball Morton ten times. I
never understand why they only gave him to him ten
times against Miami. But anyway, so I do think it's
a shame, like we have a twelve team playoff and
we have left out a true title contender. Like that's
gonna lead to some questions about what do we do
moving forward. The other thing for Duke is as he
was talking with your bones, the way you're looking at
(31:29):
it's very funny right now.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, like what you got to say? How what do
you want me to do? Duke?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Listening to you talk many Diaz has done a tremendous
job with Duke in his first two years, A tremendous
job Bone, and you should be proud and you should
order your acc T shirt I don't want the only
place riderw The line is like, we should be in
the playoff, but you can't put a five lost team
in a playoff.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
My only response is, you're now trying to suck up
when you like a jackass.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That's for the first three hours of the show.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I'm just trying to clarify myss. This is why you're
a big old ass.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
You should be happy Mac that the game we all
thought would happen. Your two teams are involved in the
pit Strip Bowl. That's been state teams.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I give you an example, the same as playing for
the college football national title like we all thought.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I give you an example, Mack, of how broken the
ball system is in general. There's a statement out from
Temple today that they did not decline a ball invitation
at five wins. They got a call they said, we
have to go talk to the players, the coaches, and
those involved. And when they came back to talk about
the ball game they were going to go to, they
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gave that game away. So Temples, I got tough, that
weren't good. Let's go talk about it. They came back
and they said, yeah, we gave that away. It is
tough to fight. Exact gelps got got to kick the side.
Spoiled sportsman says JM. You should get that bleep out
of here.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, it's it is. They had an amazing season. The
fact that them and two Lane are there in back
to back games on the first weekend Saturday, and the
point spread's bone are like sixteen and set and twenty
or sixteen twenty. It does if those games are both lopsided.
It's hard to imagine that the playoff committee doesn't change
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the way they treat group of five teams. Moving forward,
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Speaker 5 (33:58):
I mean, there's look, there are a lot of older
gentlemen with beards playing.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Basketball in college right now.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
There are so you you know, the one that's crazy
is the the guy comes in Andre and he's waving
to his kids up in the seats, and you're like,
wait a minute, this guy got two kids. He's still
playing college basketball. Crazy thing. He's using nil for his
first wife's alimony and now he's still playing college basketball.
(34:28):
Are we nuts? So now you have these kind of
games and these kind of scores. That team is really old.
My guess is again we're probably the youngest team in
the SEC. We'll be one of the three youngest teams
in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Those teams are old. Last year every team was old
in our league. They were old.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
And so now you're going to have those kind of things,
and you're also going to have a team like a
Fresno beat somebody because they got old grad students, seniors
and their average age is twenty five and your average
as is nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
There's John cal Perry, the head coach of Arkansas. He
was asked about why are there's so many early season
update upsets, and that's what led to that answer there
about how young his team is. Alimony guys with beards.
That was after the win over Fresno State the other day.
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Speaker 2 (35:35):
Check them out. And why but you're one?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I have three things to say to John Cali Perry.
One is Notre Dame should hire you. You're such a
whiny baby, you'd fit right in. Two, you can also
recruit older players and beat the teams with younger players.
Three is college basketball as a product worse because players
are staying longer because they can get nil money. I
would claim it's better. Bone, Yeah, I think it is.
(35:59):
I think it is a little better. Honestly, it was
more of a balance. So it's just I mean, it's
a funny line about the guy Guy's paying his ex
wife alimony with nil, but it's like, I don't really
want to hear.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I don't want those tears man.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
While researching why he said that, I found out in
one of the articles green Bay, the gott Leeves green
Bay team has the oldest player in college basketball at
twenty nine years old.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Twenty nine years of agaeuse he was crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
He worked for a grocery store for four years, and
then he went to the military for five years. But
while he was in the military, he grew five inches,
so he enlisted at six four. He came out sixty
nine man, and now he's playing for Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Gottlieb knows how to find those diamond in the roughs
and recruiting former military game go join the military.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh my cove eight what did they give him?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Some sort of super grow there in their in their meals?
All right, anyway, tonight big Monday night game Eagles Chargers
tonight to be an actual fun Monday night football game.
Let's read some of these texts. And as you're watching
Monday Night, remember the Panthers are tied for first place,
damn it.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
As we get ready for this week.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And the Bucks will play, we'll be hate watching the
Bucks again, although we got a riff of a dirty birds,
but we'll be watching at Land in the Bucks on
Tuesday night, watching Arizona State film preparing for the Sun Bowl.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
So he represents the conference to the fullest as conference champion.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
All right, let's see what we have on the text
line here. Bill Wilmer's going back to the interview we
had with Jordan Bianchi about Michael Jordan testifying ensuing NASCAR.
Wilmer says, if Jordan is not penalized for pushing off
Craig Elo to beat Cleveland, why would we assume he
would lose a court case. Does he think he's gonna
get all the calls in court?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Mister Jordan, did you also push off against Byron Russell?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Definitely push off there?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
The Jerry's gonna get him all the calls too, I
guess is that what he's thinking? This text says, Sir Jordan,
why did you draft Quame Brown when you were at
the Wizard? This text says, is it possible Bone is
the only person that is buying a duke a SEC championship?
You know?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
That says that you had to buy them quickly because
they were going to stow out. They're going fast, baby,
they're going fast. It's thirty four bucks I've ever spent this.
Texter says it was after we played a clip of
Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis always sounds like he's struggling on
the toilet.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Any any reaction to it? How do you know what
someone sounds like when they're on the toilet?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Do you want to buy downstairs at about five forty
with Maxkintting loose.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeahfern Mackett five forty five, what are you all talking about?
And for a Willie pe Gold call, I'm not making
any noises. You're trying to rectify the situation. Why do
you say those things? So a lot of people have listening,
a lot of people have comments about Fitty ending his
friendship with Willie. The number one question that one dude
(38:53):
did compare you guys to high school girls and your drama.
But the number one question is Willy p to get
called a a little be also as well. But the
number one question is yet this dude says, I'm trying
to decide which side to take into Willy Fitty battle.
What did Fiddy say to Willy that made Willy want
a personal apology for he said good morning to him?
(39:14):
Do you want do you want to explain that Fitty
what you said on the air too?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
What did say to him? Yeah, I don't want to
rehash what I said.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I'm trying to I'm trying to mend the fences here
and bring my guy back. He brought up he brought
Willy's uh missus pologik he was.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Talking about how they share a trainer.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yes, and all I asked is what else do you
share with your wife? Oh my god, I mean if
at the time, so I can't.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I can't get all self righteous.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I should have said it, should I apologized, But you
didn't apologize personally. I got a job to do, man,
like I cannot cater to a grown man's feelings every
time I heard it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Do you do is text him and fight with the ball, Joe.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Can't you just text him a personal apology and say
I didn't apologize just for on the air. I want
you to know I went too far. I did, and
he said that it was a half part of the apology.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Why don't you said how much? Arcuterie boy?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I just I want Willy to come back. Man, I
get lonely without Willy.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Io that Just so you know, I found a very
unbiased national media member going after ESPN for the way
they treated Notre Dame during the show yesterday.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's right, mister Brady Quinn. Oh well there Rady Quinn,
who has no ties none whatsoever, not biased at all.
That's the thing is Notre Dame. I think they're again.
I think they could win it all Bone, I wish
they made it over freaking Alabama, who does not look
the part of late. But the way they whined and
cried through a hissy fit, pulled out of the ball,
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like I just got that, they're opening themselves up to
more criticism. That is pretty funny that Brady Quinn comes in.
So no, Rowski wasn't happy either today apparently on getting
Oh he mad about guy Notre Dame, guy left out
for Bama.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Okay, I don't know, man, those are those are some
big brands to be debateing too. It was not an
easy job for the committee. I will definitely want to
say that, no doubt about it. I'm sure we'll talk
more about it tomorrow. I'm sure we'll talk more about
the first place Carolina Panthers co co first place, and
we'll recap the Monday night game as well. We got
to get out of here. Good work out of the
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Bone man, the fit Dog. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.
Seems like it's young guns, more fitty fitty in the
boys coming up next.
Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ, macam Bone with you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, we got we.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Gotta talk about something that sounds very special that is
getting ready to grace our television sets. Bone coming up
December tenth at nine pm. This week it is a
beautiful thirty for thirty entitled Boo Yah, a Portrait of
Stuart Scott, the Story of the late Great Stuart Scott.
(00:42):
And our next guest produced it and directed it. He
is Andre Gaines, and he's nice enough to join us
and tell.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Us what we're gonna see on ESPN. Andre, Thanks for coming.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
On, man.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
How you doing good?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Good?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How are you? Thanks for having me? We're doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Appreciate you, man, Appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Can you turn that down? Turn out to talk about
something whatever? You're listening to the great our teller hearing
something that.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
We're hearing ourselves echo here, let me put them on hold,
FY sort that out. We're hearing our sales echo. The
last thing I need is Mac talking back to me again.
Now I know what you deal with God. That that
dude there I was listening to sound like I'm noxious.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Now a full Mac takeover. I now have to listen
to Mac while on hold and they can't get out
of their ears.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, ombnoxious jerk that he was there. Seriously that got
Mack was listening to a filmmaker. We can't figure out
how to talk to the filmmaker on anyway. It felt
like the old thing where people would listen to their
radio when calling sports talks. That's what it kind of
felt like, what Red Fox would call the show and
you have to tell them turns radio, turn it down.
I don't know, is like the phone line reverberating back
to him. I don't know what's going on. That's an
(01:58):
odd situation. Fitny Marvels on the case, and I blame
the CFP committee. I believe somehow I'll come up with somehow.
They're responsible bon because they're responsible for everything this morning.
I intro too though, by the way I see, I
thought it was I thought it was solid.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Are we good now, Fitty, we got them? Andre? You
got us good now?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He may can you turn down with in the background
they're here in the necko of themselves. Yeah, I don't
have anything in the background. I was just put them
back on hold. They're trying to sort it out. Yeah,
we might have to do this. I feel like we're
listening to a NASCAR crew talk to the driver right now.
I think, Fitty, we might have to do this another time,
might have to try to sort this out for another time,
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because I think they wanted to be out of the interview.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
By nine oh nine.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's almost nine oh six right now, yep, so maybe
we just run, try to reset, reschedule whatever. I don't
know what's going on. They're confused now, I'm confused.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I can't wait to watch this thirty for thirty though
on Stuart Scott though, which airs Wednesday night at nine,
So I cannot wait to see you. They got a
lot of great people talking about them. I think there's
a core relation back between impact of Jimmy V in
the nineties and now Stuart Scott for this generation there.
So there's a lot of interesting stuff to talk about
here about Stuarts. Stuart Scott was a rock star. Man,
(03:11):
he was an absolute rock star. He was he was cool, right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't look at the I don't look at any
ESPN anchors now and think, man, they're cool. Stuart Scott
was someone you looked at and you thought that dude
is cool. You know, whether it's the sayings, whether it
was the way he carried himself.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
He was.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
He was one on one man and then like he
went from being this cool cat bone when he was
an anchor on ESPN to then being a hero for
so many a type of guy that showed the strength
in his battle with cancer that a lot of people
that were cancer survivors or battlers themselves could relate to.
So which might have been which was probably the coolest
(03:54):
damn thing he did. And take any catchphrase after that?
And Andre who did the film that we were trying
to get there? He did the two s Go Bars,
thirty for thirty, he did he was part of the
OJ I'm sorry that's the uh, that's the thirty for
thirty part that he did the the Jackie Robinson for
the History Channel one recently. So he's got a lot
of sports in his background. There, Fiddy, what happened to
(04:15):
Andre Gaines. We're just going to reschedule with them. It
was like nine oh seven, So that's all right, it's uh,
hopefully we can get him on before before it happens.
Is there any truth to the rumor that he has
left the show protesting the way you just treated Willy
on the air?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Is there any truth to that or no? I think so?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh Man apologized publicly except apology.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Move on?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
How come most of your wife is apologizing to Willy
or vice versa. Like I feel like I feel like
you can always tell when you guys are about to
have something go on?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Here?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
What is the best comparison for Fiddy who has broken
off his friendship with Willy?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Right now? What is the best? Is it Billy Martin
and the Yankees? Bone?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Is it a couple like a famous couple that keeps
breaking up and getting together? I can't think of one
off five on. It's Ronnie and Samy from the Jersey.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Show, is okay?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I was looking for the perfect comparison, maybe Ross and
Rachel from Friends.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But who's Rachel in this situation? You are both either
Ross or Ronnie from the Jersey Til.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So like if two Rosses were dating each other and
kept breaking up, that's what this would be.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Two nerds? Oh Man?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Anyway, all right, let's get to let's talk about the
Panthers a little bit. We got Connorroghera from Saturday down South. Uh,
he's going to talk to us about the playoff situation.
I will tell him that that that you and I Bone,
and many people out there listening in Charlotte, North Carolina.
I think Bama is getting some very very preferable treatment,
(05:44):
and we'll see how he responds. I believe he might
push back against that, but we will bring that up
to him. We'll bring up the whole Notre Dame Miami
situation and the group of five thing. What do you
do with group of fives? Does there need to be
a change there on that one? I want to talk
a little bit about the Panthers now, Bone, because they
didn't even play, and they were able to climb a
half game and get into first place in the standings
(06:05):
against the Bucks. Somebody asked me, somebody says, mac Bone
and Fittie already picked the Panthers go to the playoffs.
You have been too you have been too gutless to
do it. Did yesterday's Bucks loss finally make you come
around to the believer's side?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I don't want to do that. I don't know. Do
you want me doing that? Bone? No? Are we?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Are?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We good with me staying measured about it?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I honestly i'd rather you just I'd rather you stay
as measured as possible.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I like there's and we talked about this in a
seven o'clock hour. You can't watch that game as a
Panther fan and not get excited and not get upbeat,
and not watch them and watch Baker who clearly is
going through something right now, Go fourteen of thirty and
watch their passing game, Bone, and watch them go zero
five on on fourth down like it's You can't watch
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that and not think, oh, shoot, we got a real
chance to win this thing. So whether you were not
making proclamations like Bone and Fitty of we're going to
the playoffs like y'all did last week, whether you have
been a little too bashful, I'm not sure we're there
to do I'm not sure it's our time just yet,
that sort of thing you had to watch yesterday and
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have a big old grint on your face, because this
Bucks team does not look that formidable right now.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I don't know, Bone, Are we consistent enough? Like I
watched the Saints team play yesterday that beat us one time,
So I'm nervous already about this coming Sunday. Are we
consistent enough, are we seasoned enough? Are we ready to
do this? I'm not sure, but I do know this.
The Bucks are an extremely get a bull foe.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
They are they are, and they've having trouble despite getting
guys back, and they'll get more guys back. They're having
trouble turning it back on again. It feels like they
hit that that stretched where they lost to really good
football teams like New England and Buffalo and the Rams.
But they're having trouble Mac or Revenant back up even
for a weaker team like the Saints. So I don't
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really have I'm not saying the Pantricks can't lose to
the Bucks, but I think there are a lot more,
even than we realize.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Even a couple of weeks ago lost five of them.
We always thought there were seven.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I always thought they were a little bit ahead, even
recently after yesterday, I don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think they're very even, very.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Even so gettable, whether it's the injuries to the left
side of their offensive line, to Baker Mayfield. Now, Mike
Evans will come back and make a difference, right, But
does he play this week for them bone on Thursday night?
Do they wait for him to come back? Is there
a reacclamation period for them for him when he comes back.
I don't think he can dispute that they've lost five
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of seven, and yeah, some of those games were it's
good teams, Bone, but look at the points they've been
giving up. New England got twenty eight on a Buffalo
forty four, the Rams got thirty four on them. They've
been giving up over twenty nine points a game these
last they're twenty third thinks last four games, last five
five games. They're twenty third in points per game allowed
right now, and they're their numbers in general on both
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sides have really fallen off to either middle of the
pack or just down right back. Yet what do they
do great? There is there anything this team does great?
I think the best thing statistically about them is their
run defense is sixth in the league. But I watched
the Saints yesterday run for almost one hundred and forty
on them, like they looked like a team that could
be run on. And when you look at their stats, Bone,
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that's the thing they do best. I don't think there
is there anything else. Their top ten in takeaways and giveaways,
they've been very good in the takeaway giveaway game. Baker
at a bad interception yesterday, but they are fourth and turnover margin. Overall,
they're fourth in giveaways per game on offense and seventh
in takeaways, So the Panthers are going to have to
take care of the football against them. But like, yeah,
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you look at everything else. Statistically, they are, eh, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Eighteenth in points per game on off twenty second, in
yards per game nineteen to third down conversions twenty eighth
and fourth down conversions twenty six, in red zone scoring,
rush yards per game they're twenty their twentieth, and rush
yards per game pass yards per game they are their twentieth.
And that's a big falloff, MAAC from where they were
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in September to where they are now. They were up
there in a lot of categories. Baker Hell was an
MVP type guy. They have just fallen off way either
they reverted to the meat or they've fallen way below
in every major category.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Now, don't kid is this dude says, I couldn't tell
if you were reading off the Panthers uh stats or
the Bucks tuochet you Panther hat and bum whoever you are, sir.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I will just say this bone.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna dispute that many categories
the Panthers are middle of the pack or below middle
of the pack in But I think the point is
the Panthers feel like they are legit in the neighborhood
of the Bucks. Like it doesn't when you watch the
Bucks playing a lot of its injury induced, I'm sure,
but when you watch the Bucks Playbone, I think the
point is it feels like this division is up in
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the air. It doesn't feel like it's the plucky little
Panthers that are like out of their league, not at all,
what I mean. And I think that's the point we're
trying to make. So I'm not on here front and
trying to act like the Panthers have some amazing you know,
statistical rankings all over either. But I think and I
think that's what Bone is saying too, is Man, the
Bucks are gettable. Are we going to be able to
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take advantage of it? Are we ready to do that yet?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Bone? Or do we need another year? Maturreing? Do we
need another year Dan Morgan hitting that roster?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Maybe we do, but man, it feels like we are
right there with them.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
This thing feels like a damn toss up. It does.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Now we need to address the audience because there's a
number of people that either want us to run like
a Tampa Bay like montage of Misery, or they want
us to victory dance for Tampa. And respectfully, that's one
of the dumbest ideas we could possibly do, considering the
fact that the Panthers play that team that beat them
this week. Do you know how much you will come
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back and haunt us if we're running miseries and dance
in for games the Bandits were involved in. I say
absolutely not, Hondo, no shot, we're dancing.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I can't imagine most listeners want that, though, Like there's
a few that want us to mock the Bucks. A.
We haven't done anything yet, We're just tied with them.
We have two games to go. This could backfire in
the Bucks can win the Division. B We're gonna mock
the Bucks for a loss to the Saints, which A
we already did and be we could do again this weekend.
That feels like something, especially if I get involved in it.
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Bone maybe you and Fitddy could dance without repercussion. It
feels like the sports gods would see Captain Curse dancing
and be like, oh no, Curse, Oh no, you don't
get away with this, sir, your team loses now by
twenty point.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Now, it just feels like something y'all don't. We should
not want me involved in now. If they beat the
Bucks down the line, it's game on. Where we might
dress like pirates, Captain Kurz and Bonebeard. We could be
dancing like pirates. I could in a Neverland pirate costumes.
Maybe I don't know, Yoho ho a bottle of rum?
How about we drink a bottle of rum during a
victory dance. Bro, I'm gonna tell you, Fiddy has been
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begging for permission to dance naked if we sweep the Bucks.
I can't promise anything about that dance. Bone I can't
promise like I just I cannot promise anything. If you
go to the most excited victory dance ever, if you.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Go to the street and get one hundred signatures, the
people that want to see you dance naked, they bring
that back to it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It may be me and Fitty both day naked if
we sweep them, Like, I don't know, I Fiddy could
get it over a broom like there could be just
a lot of looks a sweep. There could just be
a lot of things bone. What it mean the first time,
Matt if that's actually a Saturday night date most weekends.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Last time he had an object, he got stolen, it
thrown into dumpster.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh that's true, Smoke Ludwig or Flounder. Whoever stole your
blow up though, will just steal your broom and take
that home. I'm just saying, if we sweep the bucks
by level of glee after what we've been through here
for the last seven years or so, is going to
be through.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The damn roof. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna go
ahead and say what's just worry about Tampa Bay first?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Though, I mean better I go now there I go.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But we also have a lot of people here that
are chiming in about the Fiddy Willy relationships and coach
Kay get a chime in on it. A lot of
people have things say about that. We'll have to circle
back to that during the like wrap up segment. People
don't even know the story of why Fiddy has broken
off the friendship with Willy, So there's a lot. There's
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a lot to tell here, I believe, like to our
audience before we go to break back, I need this
text cannot wait from a seven oh four number, Fitty,
I need you uh attentive here quote I'm on an
alcohol ankle monitor. But if we sweep the bucks, all
drink rum, I'll dance naked with Fiddy.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And go back to Jay.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's the kind of of enthusiasm we're looking for. My
uncle willing to put your freedom on the line. Now
you think you're related to this guy, Fitty seven o four, baby,
just come in and dance with the ankle monitor. We
don't need to get you sent back to jail. Just
come in and do to dance with us. If we
sweep them, we don't need we need to get you
get back into Pokey before we get.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
You in here to dance. We need to know what
what are you in for exactly. Oh, that's a good point.
We need to kind of do a background here. And
he can't be like can't be like murder. He wouldn't
be on an ankle monitor. I'm not saying it's alcohol related,
I think right, because he says I'm an alcohol so yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's fine. I don't know. Maybe we should check, Maybe
we should Yeah, the sign.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Him India probably need to know bring anybody so bring
I'll empty out a whole local prison and dance. If
we're beat the Bucks. He allowed to leave? Can he drive?
We have to go get him. There's a lot of logistics, Yeah,
there are. There's a lot of things that we need
to work out here. This texture says, if we sweep
the Bucks, how about Fitty and will he danced together
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as a sign of Panther solidarity? Dirty dancing, dirty tick,
put baby, I've had good time. Why don't you let
Willie put Fitty in the corner? If that happens when
we come back.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Connor O'Gara Saturday Down South, he reacts to the college
football playoff rankings and more. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All Right, I tried to talk this through it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Bone and Fitty, I think we know what we're talking about,
but that's always to be debated. A lot of people
are asking Bone about tie breakers with the Panthers and
the Bucks tie What if they split? What if they
go with the same record and the rest of their games?
What if they end up tied at the end of
the season, because now divisional they had their second divisional loss.
We have two divisional losses, So what if we split.
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What if we each beat our remaining division teams us
the Saints, them, the Falcons. If we end up tied,
what comes after divisional tie breakers? And is going to
get to common opponents? The Panthers, they have three uncommon opponents.
The Panthers went two and one of those games, and
the Bucks went one and two in those games, which
means if they end up tied, the Bucks will have
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been one game better in the common opponent group, which
means the Bucks would still have the damn tiebreaker. Because
I came in here with hopes that maybe we would
have a shot at the tiebreaker if the Bucks lost yesterday,
it looks like if we end up tied, the Bucks
will have the common opponent the common opponents.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Tiebreaker, So we might have to break out the broom
on those cats. Bony.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Also, don't lose to the Saints either, that'll help things
out along the way. You definitely don't want to lose
to the Saints, and then beat the Bucks. That'll help
out as well. And then beat Seattle and then beat
the Bucks again. Pretty simple. I'm on the field, I'm
in the trenches on the field. Yeah, I noticed you
didn't want to get into those tiebreakers. The blank stairs
I got from you and Fitty as I was trying
to work through the tiebreaker scenario was amazing because usually
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usually that's my five minutes all. It looked like I
brought calculus up to you guys. Yeah, I didn't sign
up for thank you during the Franks. The NFL, hey,
and the NFL is the easy postseason to figure out, bone,
that's the easy one. The college football one is fifty
times harder to figure out and convoluted, and we're all
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trying to do that this Monday morning. Our next guest,
Connor Ogara Saturday down South Saturday down South dot Com,
is here to help us try to make some sense
of what the committee did yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Connor, how you doing, man? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I'm doing well. I'm still a bit confused, surprised, just
blown away that this process played out the way that
it did in year two of the twelve team playoffs.
But you know, I do think that there is at
least a path moving forward that kind of makes sense
for those of us on the outside looking in, and
it's just getting rid of Tuesday ranking shows. So if
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that's what all this leads to that, I'm in favor.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's interesting because even Kirk Kerbstreet, who apparently doesn't want
to have to zoom in with those guys on the
on these shows anymore, even he suggested.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Kurt Affords a job though, I.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Mean for god.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Uh Pepavakua ad I of Notre Dame said that, so
let's start.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Let's start with there.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Mike, you're obviously alluding to the fact that every dang
rankings until this one, Notre Dame, despite the head dad
loss to Miami, was ahead of them. Neither plays this
weekend and they jump him, Like, what did you think
of that?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, ultimately, you want the selection committee to get right.
The problem is that the process that it took them
to actually get this right makes no sense whatsoever. I
mean absolutely none. Let's let's just cut to the chase here.
The selection committee thought and hoped that Miami would suffer
a third loss and they would never have to deal
with this situation because everything that's happened since then, suggested
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that the selection committee was basically like, we really hope
that people don't go back to that ranking, wherein Miami
was at eighteen and Notre Dame was at ten, even
though I don't know if you guys heard this, but
Miami had the head to head against Notre Dame and
a tackle football and so like you could tell me, oh,
you know what, we didn't value the head to head
until they were right next to each other. Why, like,
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why in the world does that make any sort of sense?
And those on the outside looking in are like, it
doesn't make sense that Miami was moved up at every
single ranking except the one going into the conference championship,
wherein they stayed at the same exact spot, and then
now they get moved up. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever,
despite the fact that I think everybody kind of feels
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like they got it right in Miami getting left out
because the selection committee initially messed up would have been
even more maddening. So I don't know, the problem is
they're just making this up as they go and everybody
can see that.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Connor are you surprised that in this process Oklahoma was
it more scrutinized than they were.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, because they have that win at Alabama. They have
that win and that's really important. I do think that
offensively speaking, nobody wants to see this team play football.
I mean, really, they are a tough watch, and the
problem with Oklahoma is that they're I don't know what
they're like offensive success rate numbers ended up being, but
whenever they score, it's just like a random huge chunk
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play to Isaiah Satania and he takes it like eighty
yards to the house. So there's a very good chance
that if you just spend the majority of your Saturday
watching the Oklahoma offense, you don't actually see anything. You
go to the bathroom and miss they're only big play
the day. So look, they're an unbelievably well coached defensive team.
Outside of that, it's a really, really rough go for
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this team. But I wasn't necessarily surprised because that win
against Alabama really elevated their floor, and ironically enough, it
earns them a rematch with Alabama, this time being in Norman.
So I'm not necessarily surprised that they weren't all of
a sudden like dropping out of the top ten or
something like that, considering they had that unbelievably big road win.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Rogara Saturday down South dot Com with us here talking
about the playoff mess, I'm sure we'll get into, you know,
possible tweaks to the formula.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It seems like people are already.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Looking at those two group of fivers and saying, hold on, now,
we definitely got to change something. But I want to
ask about Alabama because I think, and listen, you know,
full disclosure, we have a lot of listeners out there
that you know, that have resentment for the SEC that
can't stay in Alabama. Hell I probably fall in that category,
but I want to talk through this with you. I
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believe right now Notre Dame in Miami are both better
teams than Alabama. I have not liked what we've seen
from Alabama's offense really in like the last five weeks
or so, and I think when you look at process Connor,
I thought they should not have moved up for blowing
a three score lead and then winning the game lad
against a five win Auburn team, And then I thought
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they probably should have dropped one spot yesterday or for
the way they lost to Georgia with the offense looking
so toothless. Do you disagree with that? Does it come
down to just you can't you can't leave out a
team that played for the SEC title. It's just you
can't do that because then you're we may have no
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SEC title game in the future, How do you view this?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I agree with all those points. I think it's
perfectly fair. I was in Atlanta, I got the it
watching that team. I came in saying, look, unless Alabama
loses thirty five to seven, like what are like, We're
not gonna leave Alabama of the playoffs. And then it
was twenty eight to seven, and I'm like, guys, this
was bad. This was the worst rushing performance Alabama has
had since at least nineteen forty, like in a game
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that they kind of felt like they had to have
and Alabama's not been any particularly good team. Now, I
agree Alabama shouldn't have necessarily moved up to number nine
after the win at Auburn, but they also shouldn't have
been behind Notre Dame in the first place. That was
the point that was maddening to watch the selection committee
value Notre Dame's resume, which Notre Dame lost to the
two best teams in their schedule. Alabama at least had
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the games stretch. They were the first team in SEC
history to beat four consecutive ap top twenty five teams
without any buys or rest. That mattered. They went on
the road and won at Georgia at night, which Georgia
had lost in that setting at night since two thousand
and nine. And George is really really good. So I
do agree that Alabama is trending in the absolute wrong direction.
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When Kaylen Debora is sitting up there saying, Hey, if
we hypothetically get a game in two weeks, we're gonna
be much healthier, We're gonna look like a much different team,
and Ty Simpsons saying we're the best offense in America.
I threw up in my mouth a little bit when
they said those things because it's not true. But I
still understand why the selection committee didn't want to punish them,
and they didn't want to have this revolt against conference championships.
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And should these financials be dictating this. No, but that's
the world that we're currently living in college football.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Connor, what'd you think of Greg Sankee telling Marty and
McGee this weekend and he thinks seven teams should have
been in from the SEC.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Well, speaking of throwing up in my mouth a little bit,
Look but just just put the whole SEC in and
just have one bid leagues for everybody? No, I mean,
this is this is absurd, and I you know, I
talked about how yesterday watching Alabama in two days ago,
watching Alabama in Atlanta gave me the ick. I got
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the yick from Texas when I went to the swamp
and watched that team lose at Florida the way that
they did, and so missed me with three loss Texas,
with that Florida loss and a blowout loss at Georgia
feeling like, oh, they have a case to be in
and they should stop scheduling premiere non conference games. And Vandy, look,
I'd want to see Vandy over like eight different teams
in this playoff. Okay, Like I would go to bat
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for Vandy if they had a real argument.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
For the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
But it's not the brand that's holding them back. It's
the fact that their resume hasn't aged as well as
they hope. They've kind of broken teams if you look
at the teams that they've beaten, and they've had fired coaches,
and they've had teams that have watched their season go sideways,
and it's just hasn't aged in the way that you
would hope a ten to two team would. And that's
more so the problem, more so than like, oh, well,
Vandy's just this team without any historic success. No, no, no,
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Like my alma mater, Indiana is the number one team
in college football, and nobody's debating that. Like, it's not
just brand identity, it's the fact that the resume just
hasn't necessarily lined up. So missed me with Greg, thank
you advocating for seven SEC teams.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
How do you feel now?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Listen, everybody, in fairness, everybody's advocating, advocating. However, I'm trying
to say that word. Manny Dias sat here in Charlotte,
you know, at a table in a press conference and
was calling out JMU on Saturday night. It was to
no avail obviously, as JMU gets in Duke with five losses,
how do you feel about that whole thing, like Duke
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versus JMU? And then how do you feel about the
fact that we're sitting here Like I was all about,
you know, getting a group of five team in here,
But the way this played out, two group of five teams,
two major underdogs out of four teams on the first
playoff weekend, it feels like there's there could be a
change coming around the band.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
What do you think, you know, what's even funnier is
if we didn't make that post year one change with.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
The top for the top four.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So yeah, we would have a group of five teams
get getting a bye, and that would be reality again.
But here's here's the thing that I come back to.
When all these decision makers were sitting down trying to
figure out, all right, what's the best way to decide
national champion with this expanded playoff, none of those scenarios
involved a five loss team winning a power conference championship,
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none of them. And so the fact that Duke won
this is an outlier. I mean, it really is. And
I love Manidaz like I've gone to bat for that
guy so many times. I had him on my show
back in April. I am such a big Manidaz fan.
But when he's sitting here telling me that, like, oh,
you can't put jmu in and you have to you
know reward, you know, acc teams with three losses or
even five losses, I'm like, no, you don't, you really don't.
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Let's see what this actually looks like with them on
this stage. It is so wild that it played out
this way. But you know, I don't really want to
hear the banging of the drum for the ACC until
we actually see the ACC do something that it hasn't
done in the twenty twenties, which is win a single
New Year's Six Bowl or a playoff game. They haven't
done that since twenty nineteen. So that's why the ACC
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is a one bid league. That's why the ACC was
sweating out selection Sunday, and that's why ultimately they're in
this spot because they had a five lost conference champ Do.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
You think the group of five you'd have their own playoffs?
How do you feel about that and where that's headed?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, I mean I don't think they're gonna get on
board with that because I still think just even I've
been trying to see if we can quantify this of
what is what would one group of five win in
the college football playoff mean for the future, Like would
it be worth a decade of knowing that their teams
are likely going to get their teeth kicked in? Like
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if just we saw like two Lane go to Ole
Miss and win that game in the first round, everybody
would would then pivot to Ole Miss and saye, see
this is what they are without Lane Kiffin. They beat
him forty five to ten in the first matchup. So
maybe that's not the best example there, but how much
weight would one group of five win in this on
that stage take Because it's different than Boise State doing
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what it did all those years, or UCF beating Auburn
and the Peach Bowl. It's different when there's still a
path to the national championship. And so that's what I
kind of wonder is there's still too much incentive for
that for them to just say, ah, we're going to
take our ball and go home and do the SCS thing.
I don't think that's necessarily imminent. It would have to
take a long time. Because hope is the thing that
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motivates everyone. It motivates dollars, it motivates fans, and so
I think as long as there's still that little bit
of hope for the group of five that they can
get on that stage and win, I think that they'll
want to stay in the playoff with the rest of
the power conferences.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's you know, the conversations are coming. Though.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This was drawn up that each power for conference Connor
got their champion and we went one of the little
guys in Well, now, this whole acc mess, the chaotic season,
the tiebreaker that didn't just put the highest ranked team
in like Miami could have been there. This is going
to lead to some interesting fallout and discussions. All right,
the website is set down south dot com. He is
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Connor O'Gara. Connor, thanks for coming on man, great jobs
sorting through all this, rubble man. We appreciate you, jentlem
then appreciate it all right, be good, Thank.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You, Connor.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There you go, Connor oghara. I just want to say
a couple of things Bone to Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And Duke fans.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All right, it appears that both of you we had
a Duke fan that proposed that are all the Notre
Dame fans and all the Duke fans team up and
jump me as I leave the building today, Bone, So
I would like to address both fan bases right now,
all right, Bone, yeah, because that would include two of
you that include Duke Bone and Golden Bot.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Why did you say it? Okay, just spit it out.
I believe Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Could have won the college football national championship. I honestly
believe they are that good of a team. So it
is a damn shame that they are left out again.
I certainly think like we had a text say Notre
Dame's better than Bama, Ole Miss and Oklahoma. I think
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Like their version now not the start of the season,
but now that they found themselves defensively right, they don't
run Car as much. They kind of started with trying
to treat Car as Riley Leonard. They now let Car
become his own quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They run.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They actually give Love the ball Morton ten times. I
never understand why they only gave him to him ten
times against Miami. But anyway, so I do think it's
a shame, like we have a twelve team playoff and
we have left out a true title contender. Like that's
gonna lead to some questions about what do we do
moving forward. The other thing for Duke is as he
was talking with your bones, the way you're looking at
(31:29):
it's very funny right now.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, like what you got to say? How what do
you want me to do? Duke?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Listening to you talk many Diaz has done a tremendous
job with Duke in his first two years, A tremendous
job Bone, and you should be proud and you should
order your acc T shirt I don't want the only
place riderw The line is like, we should be in
the playoff, but you can't put a five lost team
in a playoff.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
My only response is, you're now trying to suck up
when you like a jackass.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That's for the first three hours of the show.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I'm just trying to clarify myss. This is why you're
a big old ass.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
You should be happy Mac that the game we all
thought would happen. Your two teams are involved in the
pit Strip Bowl. That's been state teams.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I give you an example, the same as playing for
the college football national title like we all thought.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I give you an example, Mack, of how broken the
ball system is in general. There's a statement out from
Temple today that they did not decline a ball invitation
at five wins. They got a call they said, we
have to go talk to the players, the coaches, and
those involved. And when they came back to talk about
the ball game they were going to go to, they
(32:41):
gave that game away. So Temples, I got tough, that
weren't good. Let's go talk about it. They came back
and they said, yeah, we gave that away. It is
tough to fight. Exact gelps got got to kick the side.
Spoiled sportsman says JM. You should get that bleep out
of here.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, it's it is. They had an amazing season. The
fact that them and two Lane are there in back
to back games on the first weekend Saturday, and the
point spread's bone are like sixteen and set and twenty
or sixteen twenty. It does if those games are both lopsided.
It's hard to imagine that the playoff committee doesn't change
(33:22):
the way they treat group of five teams. Moving forward,
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When we come back, it's the wrap up. We get
you set for well, we get you set for the
rest of the day. And you gotta hear Cal from
(33:42):
Arkansas what he said about the state of the nil
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Speaker 5 (33:58):
I mean, there's look, there are a lot of older
gentlemen with beards playing.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Basketball in college right now.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
There are so you you know, the one that's crazy
is the the guy comes in Andre and he's waving
to his kids up in the seats, and you're like,
wait a minute, this guy got two kids. He's still
playing college basketball. Crazy thing. He's using nil for his
first wife's alimony and now he's still playing college basketball.
(34:28):
Are we nuts? So now you have these kind of
games and these kind of scores. That team is really old.
My guess is again we're probably the youngest team in
the SEC. We'll be one of the three youngest teams
in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Those teams are old. Last year every team was old
in our league. They were old.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
And so now you're going to have those kind of things,
and you're also going to have a team like a
Fresno beat somebody because they got old grad students, seniors
and their average age is twenty five and your average
as is nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
There's John cal Perry, the head coach of Arkansas. He
was asked about why are there's so many early season
update upsets, and that's what led to that answer there
about how young his team is. Alimony guys with beards.
That was after the win over Fresno State the other day.
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Speaker 2 (35:35):
Check them out. And why but you're one?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I have three things to say to John Cali Perry.
One is Notre Dame should hire you. You're such a
whiny baby, you'd fit right in. Two, you can also
recruit older players and beat the teams with younger players.
Three is college basketball as a product worse because players
are staying longer because they can get nil money. I
would claim it's better. Bone, Yeah, I think it is.
(35:59):
I think it is a little better. Honestly, it was
more of a balance. So it's just I mean, it's
a funny line about the guy Guy's paying his ex
wife alimony with nil, but it's like, I don't really
want to hear.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I don't want those tears man.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
While researching why he said that, I found out in
one of the articles green Bay, the gott Leeves green
Bay team has the oldest player in college basketball at
twenty nine years old.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Twenty nine years of agaeuse he was crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
He worked for a grocery store for four years, and
then he went to the military for five years. But
while he was in the military, he grew five inches,
so he enlisted at six four. He came out sixty
nine man, and now he's playing for Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Gottlieb knows how to find those diamond in the roughs
and recruiting former military game go join the military.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh my cove eight what did they give him?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Some sort of super grow there in their in their meals?
All right, anyway, tonight big Monday night game Eagles Chargers
tonight to be an actual fun Monday night football game.
Let's read some of these texts. And as you're watching
Monday Night, remember the Panthers are tied for first place,
damn it.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
As we get ready for this week.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And the Bucks will play, we'll be hate watching the
Bucks again, although we got a riff of a dirty birds,
but we'll be watching at Land in the Bucks on
Tuesday night, watching Arizona State film preparing for the Sun Bowl.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
So he represents the conference to the fullest as conference champion.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
All right, let's see what we have on the text
line here. Bill Wilmer's going back to the interview we
had with Jordan Bianchi about Michael Jordan testifying ensuing NASCAR.
Wilmer says, if Jordan is not penalized for pushing off
Craig Elo to beat Cleveland, why would we assume he
would lose a court case. Does he think he's gonna
get all the calls in court?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Mister Jordan, did you also push off against Byron Russell?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Definitely push off there?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
The Jerry's gonna get him all the calls too, I
guess is that what he's thinking? This text says, Sir Jordan,
why did you draft Quame Brown when you were at
the Wizard? This text says, is it possible Bone is
the only person that is buying a duke a SEC championship?
You know?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
That says that you had to buy them quickly because
they were going to stow out. They're going fast, baby,
they're going fast. It's thirty four bucks I've ever spent this.
Texter says it was after we played a clip of
Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis always sounds like he's struggling on
the toilet.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Any any reaction to it? How do you know what
someone sounds like when they're on the toilet?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Do you want to buy downstairs at about five forty
with Maxkintting loose.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeahfern Mackett five forty five, what are you all talking about?
And for a Willie pe Gold call, I'm not making
any noises. You're trying to rectify the situation. Why do
you say those things? So a lot of people have listening,
a lot of people have comments about Fitty ending his
friendship with Willie. The number one question that one dude
(38:53):
did compare you guys to high school girls and your drama.
But the number one question is Willy p to get
called a a little be also as well. But the
number one question is yet this dude says, I'm trying
to decide which side to take into Willy Fitty battle.
What did Fiddy say to Willy that made Willy want
a personal apology for he said good morning to him?
(39:14):
Do you want do you want to explain that Fitty
what you said on the air too?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
What did say to him? Yeah, I don't want to
rehash what I said.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I'm trying to I'm trying to mend the fences here
and bring my guy back. He brought up he brought
Willy's uh missus pologik he was.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Talking about how they share a trainer.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yes, and all I asked is what else do you
share with your wife? Oh my god, I mean if
at the time, so I can't.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I can't get all self righteous.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I should have said it, should I apologized, But you
didn't apologize personally. I got a job to do, man,
like I cannot cater to a grown man's feelings every
time I heard it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Do you do is text him and fight with the ball, Joe.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Can't you just text him a personal apology and say
I didn't apologize just for on the air. I want
you to know I went too far. I did, and
he said that it was a half part of the apology.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Why don't you said how much? Arcuterie boy?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I just I want Willy to come back. Man, I
get lonely without Willy.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Io that Just so you know, I found a very
unbiased national media member going after ESPN for the way
they treated Notre Dame during the show yesterday.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's right, mister Brady Quinn. Oh well there Rady Quinn,
who has no ties none whatsoever, not biased at all.
That's the thing is Notre Dame. I think they're again.
I think they could win it all Bone, I wish
they made it over freaking Alabama, who does not look
the part of late. But the way they whined and
cried through a hissy fit, pulled out of the ball,
(40:49):
like I just got that, they're opening themselves up to
more criticism. That is pretty funny that Brady Quinn comes in.
So no, Rowski wasn't happy either today apparently on getting
Oh he mad about guy Notre Dame, guy left out
for Bama.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Okay, I don't know, man, those are those are some
big brands to be debateing too. It was not an
easy job for the committee. I will definitely want to
say that, no doubt about it. I'm sure we'll talk
more about it tomorrow. I'm sure we'll talk more about
the first place Carolina Panthers co co first place, and
we'll recap the Monday night game as well. We got
to get out of here. Good work out of the
(41:24):
Bone man, the fit Dog. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.
Seems like it's young guns, more fitty fitty in the
boys coming up next.
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