August 12, 2025 • 18 mins
The guys are joined by Panthers long snapper JJ Jansen as they discuss what happened with a flag on special teams on Friday, the roster turnover that special teams is experiencing and his one bad snap back in 2010.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's focus on better things right now, like a conversation
with America's long snapper. JJ Janssen is in the house.
Look at Fitty kissing up to him this week with
the JJ jersey. What's up? JJ?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Did he buy that jersey or did he borrow one
of yours?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No, we got three of them.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh my gosh, that's another buck seventy four. That's awesome, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
He I'll break the ice here. He wants you to
sign it, so you put it in his man cave.
But he's also standing very close to you right now.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's hovering sign.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Let me tell you something about your street crad with
the with the youngsters, JJ. You might not realize. You
might think just the old man. The youngsters don't dig
JJ Janssen. Yesterday last week I went home with two
things that my son, my sixteen year old son aided
Ak little Mack, had never seen. It was the JJ
Janssen jersey and the shoes that I shamelessly got Dan
(00:57):
Morgan to give me. He looked at the shoes and said,
are you gonna wear those?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Other?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The panther game. Let's not wear damn near every day
is what I'm gonna do, He said, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just checked. I just checked.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
He said, how those are lame? Then he said, oh
my god, is that your JJ Jansen jersey. That's so cool.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Love it. That's fantastic collector's item.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Have you thought what you're gonna do with all the
royalty money that's coming in out?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, I'm gonna probably get a uh what's our sponsorship
this hour? Universal Windows? I'll try to buy a window.
One window, I get one. I got all right. I
don't have I don't have that kind of money from
all the royalties here.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
JJ.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
The text line is repeatedly asking already to talk about
did you talk the referee out of the call the
other day? Because that was that was mid season JJ performance.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
If that's so, yeah, you got to start with mid
season form, absolutely so so on that particular play. One
of the advantages we get is we've got a really
good coaching staff, Tracy Smith, Darren Bates. You know, they're
on top of it. And so what I heard coming
back from the sideline, I didn't know who the call
was on yet, but I heard them yell, that's the
gunner so forty two in our you know, that was
(02:14):
always Sam Franklin. So I'm still learning everyone's numbers and
who everyone is. But I heard them meal, that's the gunner.
So I walked out there to explain the guy you
saw was the gunner. So how that play kind of
works out just a little inside football is the end
guys on the line of scrimmage. The referees are looking
to see if anyone from the middle of the field
runs down. Well, forty two. Our gunner was coming from
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the opposite side, running across the field, so he ended
up in the middle of the field, and forty two
does it is not a traditional corner number. Usually those
guys are twenty one, twenty seven, So he sees something
that looks a little bit like a linebacker number and
in they're in preseason form, so they're throwing the flag.
The only reason they picked it up is you begin
to say, hey, that's the gunner. Did you have the
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right number? Yes, forty two, I know he is forty two.
Where did he line up? And they start to all
work together. I think they probably also used replay assist.
They don't know to even look at replay assist if
not given like a queue of hey, you might have
the wrong guy, or if you do, he's allowed to
do that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If it was a combination of assist and replay Assistan.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
There's jjisces. But again at the end of the day,
like I'm running, I'm coming back down the field off
of our bench. Tracy and Darren. Oh, Darren Bates was
out there. Darren Bates was like on the field. Yeah,
So like those guys were on top of it. They know,
they know where they placed everybody, especially in preseason, I'm
not I'm not always sure who's out there with me,
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right because there there's very active subs, so you sort
of line up. I know Sam's back there, and that's
about it, like in terms of in terms of preseason football.
So I wasn't entirely sure at the jump what had happened,
But coming off the sideline they got a good information
and then you're just hoping to get the referees attention
and encouraging them to make the right call. They want
to get the call right. Definitely, just got to help out.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, the counselor st JJ one for one already, man,
I think Trevia and Thomas.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes, yes, absolutely sorry, I should have said that. Look back,
he's on his preseason roster.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Baby, I'm on a Friday night though I was I
needed the roster with me Friday night. But I feel
like for this week, I feel like I might actually
the dudes. I don't think jew who that was?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
No, I do no, No, I do appreciate that. I'm
I'm certainly learning where everybody fits on the run. On
the field, ro said, you.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Don't know who's going to be the coverage unit, went,
you know what I mean. These guys are battling for
those covers.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
They're battling for spots. And the way preseason works is
you've got the way they end up on special teams
is sort of how they're falling right now on offense
and defense through one week. So if you're on the
ones on offense and defense, you're probably on the ones
in special teams because the goal is play your plays
on offense, defense, special teams and then get out. So
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even the even the depth right now on special teams
isn't necessarily what the final depth chart will be because
they are trying to manage reps. We're trying to get
everyone their reps, but not have anyone play the whole game,
and especially to show to give the opportunities for the
twos and threes to get plenty of run so they
can get tape out there, and then the coaches can
see what they can do in games.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
How much of an adjustment is this right now for
special teams because there is so many new bodies out
there of the guys that might be playing their regularly.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think that's every single year, certainly. We've had so
many We've talked about this before. We've had so many
guys who've been on the Special Teams unit for a while.
You know, Sam Franklin, we talked about you know, Felipe
Franks was a core guy for US last year. Jordan Matthews,
Lannie Johnson, those guys were sort of like our core
guys last year. Now none of them are currently here,
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so you're sort of building up a new core every
single year. I think one of the advantages we got
is the rosters getting deeper, and Dan Morgan and Brandton
and Dave Canalis are putting together this roster which you
end up getting is a lot better quality players coming
down to Special teams because as the roster gets deeper,
guys that are starting on offense and defense are also
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now trickling into special teams and that's what we want.
And so what you're really trying to do on a
special teams element is find the guys like gunners, returners
that have skills, and then you're just trying to raise
up a culture of we're attacking and hitting, which for
especially the defensive guys, it's right up their alley. But
you're just gonna have to encourage them, hey, this is
a way to make a living in the NFL, because
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maybe they've been trying to break in on all ownd some.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Of the struggles the other day, like there was a
sixteen yard punt return of thirty yard punt return. The penalties, I.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Think are penalties come up and come up a lot
in the preseason. Again, guys are playing in positions in
games they've never been in. So you have to remember,
once you get into the twos and threes on special teams,
most of those guys on the field have never played
special teams before. So they know how to run and hit,
they just don't know where everything where they're spacing is
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on the field, and inevitably you revert back to the
last game you played. So, especially the rookies, they're reverting
back to college, and they've never nothing on special teams
looks like what they did in college. The punt play
looks totally different. Certainly kickoff looks different now. The big
jump is, hey, from week one to week two, when
they kind of go back into muscle memory, they should
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be going back to week one and learning, Hey, i'm
covering a punt, I need to have my right leverage.
I'm blocking that returns going this way. I can't hold
in this particular direction. And that's where you should see
a lot of improvement going from week one to week two.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Texter says, tell JJ, thank you. He signed my kid's hat.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
At the game Friday, however, the kid asked the dad,
how old is that guy?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
He looks young?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Right? That was probably he doesn't even look old enough
to play in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
He's nineteen or two, is a legitimate dad.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He's older than you. Could you play in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I don't know that's true. That's pretty that's pretty tough.
I don't know how old was the kid. I want
to find out. I don't know about that still a
young man.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I want to know if you think are you comfortable? Bone?
And I have been saying something about you repeating something
that we believe to be fact as as advocates for
the America's long snaps. Are you comfortable? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Can we even claim that we don't know you guys
are friends?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Okay, good write that down. Are you comfortable with it?
Just doesn't seventy four he fist pumped. So are you
comfortable with us saying that in your career, which is
a little lengthy, that you have only had one bad
long snap? Or do you think we're overdoing it with
that statement, because that's what we.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Were doing it, meaning that I've had fewer than one,
no more like?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is that all we tell the urban legend around town
is sure urban man only missed one snap.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's because Joe Person always wrote about that one snap
in New York so well years twenty ten. I remember,
I remember very vividly. So yes, we've had one rep
where we just couldn't get the ball off. But I've
had a lot of poor snaps where Johnny or Mike
Pollardi like bailed me out, stuff where I was sick
to my stomach. You guys never saw it or weren't
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paying it, Like, weren't you notice it? Because they did
so good. So, like I say this all the time
to like young long snappers, like you're gonna make mistakes.
Your goal is that your mistakes are obviously rare, but
also in a way that someone can cover for you.
And I would say in every season, there's probably a
couple of balls like I'm I'm almost embarrassed that that happened,
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but I'd like to think my standard's pretty high. But
at the end of the day, like we're a team
and we're a group of guys together, and I'm trying
to make it as easy on Sam this year as possible,
but inevitably he'll probably bail me out of one or
two and the kicker will make it and you guys
won't even notice and we'll just we'll just move right along.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So we're going with it though there's all I guess
there's been one that has been if that one.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Was disaster, that ball went that ball went six yards
on a punt so for those who don't know, a
punt snap supposed to go fourteen in the air, It
rolled to six and died got stuck in the ground.
It was that was it. That was a complete Nutter disaster.
So uh yeah, year that wasn't bad. That was just embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
That whole year twenty ten was a mess though.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, we clearly it's like the start of Major League
where it's like the season start. However, the first pitch
of the game goes, that's how the season goes. I
probably got us off onto a bad start there.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Thing typed in JJ Jansen bad snap on Google and
AI thing comes up that you're known for only having
one bad snap since twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Say that's because again that was so. That was Joe
Person's first game on Panthers beat. So he remembers that
very clearly. I was like if he if Joe had
never said that, no one would even know that I've
ever messed up.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, what we did is we've heard him say that,
and then we keep term that week think so that
we every year goes by and we say, my man
still only had one.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, that's right, you know. No, No, Joe's been a
good buddy and a good friend. I always tease him
about that. I said, man, you always let everyone know
that I had that one ball in New York. But
it again, it was a disaster. It actually went down.
Jason Baker was the punter Jason had to run up
the ball barely got the personal protector. He ran up
and fell on it, and it was listed as a
fumble for Jason Baker.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh no something.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He didn't have any incentives based on balls that rolled
back to him.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh man, So we saw you miked up on Friday night?
Did you do you know? Like what aired you singing
Michael Jackson and stuff like like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
My gosh, I did. I did not hear him about this,
so they told me, Hey, You're gonna be miked up.
So in my mind I was getting like one of
the like NFL films or like when the Panthers release
the footage like after the fact. Yeah, No, I did
not know that I was going to be on the
live broadcast. That would sort of like uh. I got
back and I had text messages from some of the
(11:58):
kids on our baseball team, coach JJ, I saw you
on the broadcast. It's like, sure I was playing, because no,
we heard you. It's like I have what are you
talking about? Only came to find out that how did
I was I singing?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Were you singing of Michael Jackson's like I was playing
only during warm up? Sure? Yeah, there was another one.
What was the other one? We played these clips. By
the way, Oh did you really go?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I still haven't heard.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We're a hard hitting football show. On a Monday after
the game, we're playing clips with a long snapper singing, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
My gosh, we would never do that in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
The other one was, oh you finding out like you
said that the.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, so so Sam Martin got mad at me. I
had told him at the beginning of the game that
I was miked up. You know, guys usually like, hey,
just let you know. It's a courtesy. But then we
started talking like, oh my gosh, you didn't tell me
that you were on the broadcast. I said, I didn't know.
So we were like we found the camera, because usually
what happens is like if we're in pregame out there,
you'll see some random camera that's never pointed at you,
(12:54):
like just following you wherever you are. And I couldn't
find it at the beginning of the game, so I thought, Okay,
they're not following me, and then all of a sudden
the fourth quarter there was a camera like just staring
us down. So I think it was me and Sam
like are you are you the guy that's following me
around and uh no, they were very cool with that.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
All right, nice, I'm trying to find if your if
your bad stab is on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh can we just stop with this?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
God?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I described it. I described it perfectly well.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
If they'd find a JJ Jansen forty second highlight reel
though from twenty eleven. There you go, and someone did
all your wrong snaps against the Bears in two thousand one.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Put that together yourself and.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, probably trying to learn YouTube? How does YouTube work? Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Man? So today I just gotta wrap this up here
in a second camp time flies when you're talking to
JJ Man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You're not the only one that thinks that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
What about your wife? Does she still feel like that?
Or does she get a little like because my wife
rolls her eyes when I start to go into like
yux mode radio yux mode at the house, She's like, oh,
you're acting like you're on the rate. She like rolls round.
Does your wife still appreciate all your conversation or is
she kind of heard a lot of it?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh yeah, all the stuff that I'm workshopping for you guys.
I start with her, Hey, how does this sound if
I tried this. It was actually really funny. I was
so nervous when I proposed to my wife we are
you're in Green Bay that I was talking her ear
off and she said, twenty minutes before I was planning
to propose, can you please stop asking me any questions today?
That was That was the last thing she said. I
(14:24):
was like, and I literally responded, are you sure?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You don't want me to say any more questions? Because
I knew what I was coming. Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, I still posed. I still proposed. Yes, we've been married.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, no, no, we've It was Thanksgiving Day in Green.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Bay, Wisconsina. Some say you made the Lambeau leap that day.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Nice, that was pretty good. Okay, yeah, she gets a
little worn out from time to time, so she'll just
walk away. I have had enough.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I feel like you could be like you could be
Chris Rocks one, like the funniest person in the world.
I feel like the wife would be like, Okay, enough
of this. You are with us.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know you're I'm funnier than you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I just compare us both to Chris Rock. I don't
mind it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
In fact, I uh redid a Chris Rock joke for
her last night. So I guess that's very very timely.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
People keep asking Smitty called you a holder during the
game the other day.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Did you hear about this?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't know. Yeah I heard about it. Uh, I
don't know. I don't know. What do you want me
to what do you want me to say?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I was very uncomfortable because you are two Panther legends,
I mean, two of the elite players that have ever
played here, and I don't want any beef, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So I just that's that's I'd like, these Ring of
Honor guys have to get along, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, I don't make wave Smitty make way.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Actually, actually, Ryan Fitzgerald or Ticker, said, will you ever
get up in the Ring of Honor? Like how many
games you have to play? I was like, I'm never
going up there? Like are you sure? I was like,
I was like Hall of Famer, Hall of aim or
first round pick, future Hall of Fame or future Hall
of Famer. He goes, they could probably put you up there.
I was like, I'm probably over with the PSL owners.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He's really trying to get on your good side.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
He's really yeah, he's buttering.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I saw you guys make him. He was walking behind
the cart that you were ri cho in yesterday. Oh yeah,
so rookie guys are right by me and he was
walking by so so rookies aren't allowed on the golf cart.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So it feels sort of feels sort of bad. But
we have to leave our fourth guy to just walk
all the way back. Yeah, he was walking with me,
and that's not so we get like a security escort
on the golf cart, and our security always lets us
in the building any of these key cards. He always
lets us in the building. We've had two or three
of these rain days where it is absolutely dumping and
Ryan's stuck outside with no key card. There's no security.
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So that's that's how rookies have to get.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Because he's a rookie, because he only hit two to
five yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know what, at some point, we're gonna have to
put up wide posts so everyone understands that our kickers
are kicking quite well during camp, but the skinny posts
are messing everybody up.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
So archists must be so glad that is it could
be closed now from here on out, like after to day.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Oh yes, so that's probably good. Should I get like
an update. I'll tell everybody how many they made on
the skinny.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Post were show persons on that group chat, because both.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Are on PhD loss, so he'll be very good. So
so I said that we we have been so passively
aggressive attacked by our by our media members that for
maybe the last practice day, we'll just turn them sideways
and it'll just be a single post in the middle
of the field that they got a feel last day.
Just make it really hard on them.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
All right, we will, all right, we go.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
By the way, the full the full twenty ten game
is on YouTube, but I'm not gonna look anything so in.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That the cool part about that game, besides the fact
that I was a disaster on that one snap that
was a Greg Hardy had a block punt in that.
You remember, that was the first game for Greg Hardy
in in his NFL career.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And we've tried, we've tried to forget most of twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
To be honest, twenty twenty ten didn't have a lot
of high moments, but that was cam.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It led the camp.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It led to camp the camp.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
All right, brother, Well, hey, have a good trip to Houston.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You'll be watching on Saturday afternoon and thanks again for
stopping by.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Fantastic Thanks guys,
Let's focus on better things right now, like a conversation
with America's long snapper. JJ Janssen is in the house.
Look at Fitty kissing up to him this week with
the JJ jersey. What's up? JJ?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Did he buy that jersey or did he borrow one
of yours?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No, we got three of them.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh my gosh, that's another buck seventy four. That's awesome, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
He I'll break the ice here. He wants you to
sign it, so you put it in his man cave.
But he's also standing very close to you right now.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's hovering sign.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Let me tell you something about your street crad with
the with the youngsters, JJ. You might not realize. You
might think just the old man. The youngsters don't dig
JJ Janssen. Yesterday last week I went home with two
things that my son, my sixteen year old son aided
Ak little Mack, had never seen. It was the JJ
Janssen jersey and the shoes that I shamelessly got Dan
(00:57):
Morgan to give me. He looked at the shoes and said,
are you gonna wear those?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Other?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The panther game. Let's not wear damn near every day
is what I'm gonna do, He said, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just checked. I just checked.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
He said, how those are lame? Then he said, oh
my god, is that your JJ Jansen jersey. That's so cool.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Love it. That's fantastic collector's item.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Have you thought what you're gonna do with all the
royalty money that's coming in out?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, I'm gonna probably get a uh what's our sponsorship
this hour? Universal Windows? I'll try to buy a window.
One window, I get one. I got all right. I
don't have I don't have that kind of money from
all the royalties here.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
JJ.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
The text line is repeatedly asking already to talk about
did you talk the referee out of the call the
other day? Because that was that was mid season JJ performance.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
If that's so, yeah, you got to start with mid
season form, absolutely so so on that particular play. One
of the advantages we get is we've got a really
good coaching staff, Tracy Smith, Darren Bates. You know, they're
on top of it. And so what I heard coming
back from the sideline, I didn't know who the call
was on yet, but I heard them yell, that's the
gunner so forty two in our you know, that was
(02:14):
always Sam Franklin. So I'm still learning everyone's numbers and
who everyone is. But I heard them meal, that's the gunner.
So I walked out there to explain the guy you
saw was the gunner. So how that play kind of
works out just a little inside football is the end
guys on the line of scrimmage. The referees are looking
to see if anyone from the middle of the field
runs down. Well, forty two. Our gunner was coming from
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the opposite side, running across the field, so he ended
up in the middle of the field, and forty two
does it is not a traditional corner number. Usually those
guys are twenty one, twenty seven, So he sees something
that looks a little bit like a linebacker number and
in they're in preseason form, so they're throwing the flag.
The only reason they picked it up is you begin
to say, hey, that's the gunner. Did you have the
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right number? Yes, forty two, I know he is forty two.
Where did he line up? And they start to all
work together. I think they probably also used replay assist.
They don't know to even look at replay assist if
not given like a queue of hey, you might have
the wrong guy, or if you do, he's allowed to
do that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If it was a combination of assist and replay Assistan.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
There's jjisces. But again at the end of the day,
like I'm running, I'm coming back down the field off
of our bench. Tracy and Darren. Oh, Darren Bates was
out there. Darren Bates was like on the field. Yeah,
So like those guys were on top of it. They know,
they know where they placed everybody, especially in preseason, I'm
not I'm not always sure who's out there with me,
(03:39):
right because there there's very active subs, so you sort
of line up. I know Sam's back there, and that's
about it, like in terms of in terms of preseason football.
So I wasn't entirely sure at the jump what had happened,
But coming off the sideline they got a good information
and then you're just hoping to get the referees attention
and encouraging them to make the right call. They want
to get the call right. Definitely, just got to help out.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, the counselor st JJ one for one already, man,
I think Trevia and Thomas.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes, yes, absolutely sorry, I should have said that. Look back,
he's on his preseason roster.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Baby, I'm on a Friday night though I was I
needed the roster with me Friday night. But I feel
like for this week, I feel like I might actually
the dudes. I don't think jew who that was?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
No, I do no, No, I do appreciate that. I'm
I'm certainly learning where everybody fits on the run. On
the field, ro said, you.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Don't know who's going to be the coverage unit, went,
you know what I mean. These guys are battling for
those covers.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
They're battling for spots. And the way preseason works is
you've got the way they end up on special teams
is sort of how they're falling right now on offense
and defense through one week. So if you're on the
ones on offense and defense, you're probably on the ones
in special teams because the goal is play your plays
on offense, defense, special teams and then get out. So
(04:58):
even the even the depth right now on special teams
isn't necessarily what the final depth chart will be because
they are trying to manage reps. We're trying to get
everyone their reps, but not have anyone play the whole game,
and especially to show to give the opportunities for the
twos and threes to get plenty of run so they
can get tape out there, and then the coaches can
see what they can do in games.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
How much of an adjustment is this right now for
special teams because there is so many new bodies out
there of the guys that might be playing their regularly.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think that's every single year, certainly. We've had so
many We've talked about this before. We've had so many
guys who've been on the Special Teams unit for a while.
You know, Sam Franklin, we talked about you know, Felipe
Franks was a core guy for US last year. Jordan Matthews,
Lannie Johnson, those guys were sort of like our core
guys last year. Now none of them are currently here,
(05:46):
so you're sort of building up a new core every
single year. I think one of the advantages we got
is the rosters getting deeper, and Dan Morgan and Brandton
and Dave Canalis are putting together this roster which you
end up getting is a lot better quality players coming
down to Special teams because as the roster gets deeper,
guys that are starting on offense and defense are also
(06:08):
now trickling into special teams and that's what we want.
And so what you're really trying to do on a
special teams element is find the guys like gunners, returners
that have skills, and then you're just trying to raise
up a culture of we're attacking and hitting, which for
especially the defensive guys, it's right up their alley. But
you're just gonna have to encourage them, hey, this is
a way to make a living in the NFL, because
(06:29):
maybe they've been trying to break in on all ownd some.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Of the struggles the other day, like there was a
sixteen yard punt return of thirty yard punt return. The penalties, I.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Think are penalties come up and come up a lot
in the preseason. Again, guys are playing in positions in
games they've never been in. So you have to remember,
once you get into the twos and threes on special teams,
most of those guys on the field have never played
special teams before. So they know how to run and hit,
they just don't know where everything where they're spacing is
(06:57):
on the field, and inevitably you revert back to the
last game you played. So, especially the rookies, they're reverting
back to college, and they've never nothing on special teams
looks like what they did in college. The punt play
looks totally different. Certainly kickoff looks different now. The big
jump is, hey, from week one to week two, when
they kind of go back into muscle memory, they should
(07:18):
be going back to week one and learning, Hey, i'm
covering a punt, I need to have my right leverage.
I'm blocking that returns going this way. I can't hold
in this particular direction. And that's where you should see
a lot of improvement going from week one to week two.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Texter says, tell JJ, thank you. He signed my kid's hat.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
At the game Friday, however, the kid asked the dad,
how old is that guy?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
He looks young?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Right? That was probably he doesn't even look old enough
to play in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
He's nineteen or two, is a legitimate dad.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He's older than you. Could you play in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I don't know that's true. That's pretty that's pretty tough.
I don't know how old was the kid. I want
to find out. I don't know about that still a
young man.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I want to know if you think are you comfortable? Bone?
And I have been saying something about you repeating something
that we believe to be fact as as advocates for
the America's long snaps. Are you comfortable? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Can we even claim that we don't know you guys
are friends?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Okay, good write that down. Are you comfortable with it?
Just doesn't seventy four he fist pumped. So are you
comfortable with us saying that in your career, which is
a little lengthy, that you have only had one bad
long snap? Or do you think we're overdoing it with
that statement, because that's what we.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Were doing it, meaning that I've had fewer than one,
no more like?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is that all we tell the urban legend around town
is sure urban man only missed one snap.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's because Joe Person always wrote about that one snap
in New York so well years twenty ten. I remember,
I remember very vividly. So yes, we've had one rep
where we just couldn't get the ball off. But I've
had a lot of poor snaps where Johnny or Mike
Pollardi like bailed me out, stuff where I was sick
to my stomach. You guys never saw it or weren't
(09:11):
paying it, Like, weren't you notice it? Because they did
so good. So, like I say this all the time
to like young long snappers, like you're gonna make mistakes.
Your goal is that your mistakes are obviously rare, but
also in a way that someone can cover for you.
And I would say in every season, there's probably a
couple of balls like I'm I'm almost embarrassed that that happened,
(09:35):
but I'd like to think my standard's pretty high. But
at the end of the day, like we're a team
and we're a group of guys together, and I'm trying
to make it as easy on Sam this year as possible,
but inevitably he'll probably bail me out of one or
two and the kicker will make it and you guys
won't even notice and we'll just we'll just move right along.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So we're going with it though there's all I guess
there's been one that has been if that one.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Was disaster, that ball went that ball went six yards
on a punt so for those who don't know, a
punt snap supposed to go fourteen in the air, It
rolled to six and died got stuck in the ground.
It was that was it. That was a complete Nutter disaster.
So uh yeah, year that wasn't bad. That was just embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
That whole year twenty ten was a mess though.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, we clearly it's like the start of Major League
where it's like the season start. However, the first pitch
of the game goes, that's how the season goes. I
probably got us off onto a bad start there.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Thing typed in JJ Jansen bad snap on Google and
AI thing comes up that you're known for only having
one bad snap since twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Say that's because again that was so. That was Joe
Person's first game on Panthers beat. So he remembers that
very clearly. I was like if he if Joe had
never said that, no one would even know that I've
ever messed up.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, what we did is we've heard him say that,
and then we keep term that week think so that
we every year goes by and we say, my man
still only had one.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, that's right, you know. No, No, Joe's been a
good buddy and a good friend. I always tease him
about that. I said, man, you always let everyone know
that I had that one ball in New York. But
it again, it was a disaster. It actually went down.
Jason Baker was the punter Jason had to run up
the ball barely got the personal protector. He ran up
and fell on it, and it was listed as a
fumble for Jason Baker.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh no something.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He didn't have any incentives based on balls that rolled
back to him.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh man, So we saw you miked up on Friday night?
Did you do you know? Like what aired you singing
Michael Jackson and stuff like like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
My gosh, I did. I did not hear him about this,
so they told me, Hey, You're gonna be miked up.
So in my mind I was getting like one of
the like NFL films or like when the Panthers release
the footage like after the fact. Yeah, No, I did
not know that I was going to be on the
live broadcast. That would sort of like uh. I got
back and I had text messages from some of the
(11:58):
kids on our baseball team, coach JJ, I saw you
on the broadcast. It's like, sure I was playing, because no,
we heard you. It's like I have what are you
talking about? Only came to find out that how did
I was I singing?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Were you singing of Michael Jackson's like I was playing
only during warm up? Sure? Yeah, there was another one.
What was the other one? We played these clips. By
the way, Oh did you really go?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I still haven't heard.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We're a hard hitting football show. On a Monday after
the game, we're playing clips with a long snapper singing, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
My gosh, we would never do that in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
The other one was, oh you finding out like you
said that the.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, so so Sam Martin got mad at me. I
had told him at the beginning of the game that
I was miked up. You know, guys usually like, hey,
just let you know. It's a courtesy. But then we
started talking like, oh my gosh, you didn't tell me
that you were on the broadcast. I said, I didn't know.
So we were like we found the camera, because usually
what happens is like if we're in pregame out there,
you'll see some random camera that's never pointed at you,
(12:54):
like just following you wherever you are. And I couldn't
find it at the beginning of the game, so I thought, Okay,
they're not following me, and then all of a sudden
the fourth quarter there was a camera like just staring
us down. So I think it was me and Sam
like are you are you the guy that's following me
around and uh no, they were very cool with that.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
All right, nice, I'm trying to find if your if
your bad stab is on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh can we just stop with this?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
God?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I described it. I described it perfectly well.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
If they'd find a JJ Jansen forty second highlight reel
though from twenty eleven. There you go, and someone did
all your wrong snaps against the Bears in two thousand one.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Put that together yourself and.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, probably trying to learn YouTube? How does YouTube work? Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Man? So today I just gotta wrap this up here
in a second camp time flies when you're talking to
JJ Man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You're not the only one that thinks that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
What about your wife? Does she still feel like that?
Or does she get a little like because my wife
rolls her eyes when I start to go into like
yux mode radio yux mode at the house, She's like, oh,
you're acting like you're on the rate. She like rolls round.
Does your wife still appreciate all your conversation or is
she kind of heard a lot of it?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh yeah, all the stuff that I'm workshopping for you guys.
I start with her, Hey, how does this sound if
I tried this. It was actually really funny. I was
so nervous when I proposed to my wife we are
you're in Green Bay that I was talking her ear
off and she said, twenty minutes before I was planning
to propose, can you please stop asking me any questions today?
That was That was the last thing she said. I
(14:24):
was like, and I literally responded, are you sure?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You don't want me to say any more questions? Because
I knew what I was coming. Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, I still posed. I still proposed. Yes, we've been married.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, no, no, we've It was Thanksgiving Day in Green.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Bay, Wisconsina. Some say you made the Lambeau leap that day.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Nice, that was pretty good. Okay, yeah, she gets a
little worn out from time to time, so she'll just
walk away. I have had enough.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I feel like you could be like you could be
Chris Rocks one, like the funniest person in the world.
I feel like the wife would be like, Okay, enough
of this. You are with us.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know you're I'm funnier than you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I just compare us both to Chris Rock. I don't
mind it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
In fact, I uh redid a Chris Rock joke for
her last night. So I guess that's very very timely.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
People keep asking Smitty called you a holder during the
game the other day.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Did you hear about this?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't know. Yeah I heard about it. Uh, I
don't know. I don't know. What do you want me
to what do you want me to say?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I was very uncomfortable because you are two Panther legends,
I mean, two of the elite players that have ever
played here, and I don't want any beef, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So I just that's that's I'd like, these Ring of
Honor guys have to get along, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, I don't make wave Smitty make way.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Actually, actually, Ryan Fitzgerald or Ticker, said, will you ever
get up in the Ring of Honor? Like how many
games you have to play? I was like, I'm never
going up there? Like are you sure? I was like,
I was like Hall of Famer, Hall of aim or
first round pick, future Hall of Fame or future Hall
of Famer. He goes, they could probably put you up there.
I was like, I'm probably over with the PSL owners.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He's really trying to get on your good side.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
He's really yeah, he's buttering.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I saw you guys make him. He was walking behind
the cart that you were ri cho in yesterday. Oh yeah,
so rookie guys are right by me and he was
walking by so so rookies aren't allowed on the golf cart.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So it feels sort of feels sort of bad. But
we have to leave our fourth guy to just walk
all the way back. Yeah, he was walking with me,
and that's not so we get like a security escort
on the golf cart, and our security always lets us
in the building any of these key cards. He always
lets us in the building. We've had two or three
of these rain days where it is absolutely dumping and
Ryan's stuck outside with no key card. There's no security.
(16:44):
So that's that's how rookies have to get.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Because he's a rookie, because he only hit two to
five yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know what, at some point, we're gonna have to
put up wide posts so everyone understands that our kickers
are kicking quite well during camp, but the skinny posts
are messing everybody up.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
So archists must be so glad that is it could
be closed now from here on out, like after to day.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Oh yes, so that's probably good. Should I get like
an update. I'll tell everybody how many they made on
the skinny.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Post were show persons on that group chat, because both.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Are on PhD loss, so he'll be very good. So
so I said that we we have been so passively
aggressive attacked by our by our media members that for
maybe the last practice day, we'll just turn them sideways
and it'll just be a single post in the middle
of the field that they got a feel last day.
Just make it really hard on them.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
All right, we will, all right, we go.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
By the way, the full the full twenty ten game
is on YouTube, but I'm not gonna look anything so in.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That the cool part about that game, besides the fact
that I was a disaster on that one snap that
was a Greg Hardy had a block punt in that.
You remember, that was the first game for Greg Hardy
in in his NFL career.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And we've tried, we've tried to forget most of twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
To be honest, twenty twenty ten didn't have a lot
of high moments, but that was cam.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It led the camp.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It led to camp the camp.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
All right, brother, Well, hey, have a good trip to Houston.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You'll be watching on Saturday afternoon and thanks again for
stopping by.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Fantastic Thanks guys,
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