October 9, 2025 • 17 mins
Former Cowboys QB Babe Laufenberg joins the show, as he talks about what has allowed the Cowboys offense to be so explosive to start the season, before he goes into story time mode, as he tells stories about Lee Corso, his time with the Cowboys, & more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time now, Bone to get some hit, some intel
on what's what's making that offense so good and what's
going on with their defensive struggles. Seems like they're playing
a little bit better on defense. Let's get a good
scouting report on the Cowboys from a guy that played
quarterback for Dallas and four years, I mean we're talking decades,
has been the radio guy in the booth as the
(00:22):
analyst for the Cowboy Radio Network. He is Babelfenberg and
he joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Babe,
thanks for coming on with us in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm doing well. Thank you. And you talk about decades.
I when you said that, I realized, I guess I'll
be on my third decade next year. That'll be thirty years.
If I make it. I just I don't say anything bad,
but I want to say quickly. So Bone, my name
is Babe. I've been Brandon is my real name, but
I've been Babe all my life, So Bone, you know,
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I always hate calling people nicknames if you don't know them.
It's like, you know, you meet a group of guys
and their buddy that have known since college. You know,
in the fraternity. He was snot face, right, so that's
how they called him a snot face or whatever.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
And so I never felt comfortable saying, you know, I
really I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You well enough to call you snot based, but can
I call you bone?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Okay? I also like how your name is babe, but yeah,
you don't like calling people by their nickname. Very interesting,
by the way, is your why is your name babe?
Like where did where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, you know what I came from six kids and
long and short. I used to just always carry a
baseball bat, like a plastic bat or whatever, and I'd
just be whacking balls, I guess as a kid, you know,
since the time I could walk, I'd just be walking
balls around the house or wherever. Obviously, we didn't have
video games when I was born, so and so it
(01:46):
suddenly it became babe, like babe ruth, and the name
just stopped. You know. It's funny how I don't think
anybody ever gives you a nickname, initially saying Okay, this
will be the name for the rest of your life.
So I named if you know, I'm sure do Darryl Johnston. Yeah,
the former Cowboys fullback, and of course broadcasted the Fox
and we played together. I nicknamed them the moose.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Wow wow yeah, And it was one of and very
quickly it was one of those things.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We had a bunch of five nine running backs, right,
and they came into the room the one day. The
running backs.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Were in the other room getting the run game.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And of course now they're coming down to the quarterbacks
and receivers room to get the pass game. So they
walk them through the door and I'm sitting next to
Troy Bateman and they come in and five nine five nine,
five nine, here comes Darryl right six two two five,
And I said, I said the Troy, I said, I said,
Troy looked at look at DJ. I said, the guy's
a moose among the deer. That's great, YEA having no
(02:48):
idea that from that point forward. And I remember he said,
I knew I was no longer Darryl when there were
moose calls going up in Philadelia.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh that's beautiful, man. That is a great nickname. The
moose calls were legend on this one.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Though.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
You're you're nicknamed after Babe Ruth. I'm nicknamed after because
it's short for t Bone name is Travis, so I'm
named after a George Castanza moment on Seinfeld.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I think you won this one.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Man. Oh, that's great, one of my favorites. I don't
know if you guys are music fans, but familiar with
T Bone Burnett.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He's in there.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, I've seen his name's familiar. When I googled famous
T bones, he comes up a lot. Do you have
a T Bone club you guys will hang out with?
I love, Hey, babe, what this Cowboy offense? A little
scary to it to us as Panther fans.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
The way they've been playing and the fact that they've
been doing it with you know, multiple O linemen out
last week I think it was four ceedee lamb out
for a while. How have they been playing so well
offensively with all these guys out?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah? I mean, honestly, my hat was off to Brian Schottenheimer,
Cowboy's new head coach last week because to your point,
they had four offensive linemen playing against the Jets that
did not start in week one, and it wasn't a
situation where a guy had been hurt and he came
back in week two where he was a starter. They
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had two sixth rounders, a seventh rounders, and two free
agents on that starting line. And they did a very
good job. You know. Obviously they scored thirty seven points
against the Jet last week, so and you're out your
number one receiver in CD Lamb. So the coaching job
they did was fantastic. I will tell you, Dak Prescott
is playing really, really well. I've always been a Dak
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Prescott I don't like to use the word fan because
that applies I'm up there cheering them on. But I've
always been a believer in Dak. Sometimes they haven't been
good enough around him, sometimes they haven't been good enough
on defense. But Dak Prescott has played some really, really
good football through the years, and he's playing just great
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right now. He'll see it. He's in control, he's confident,
he's decisive, and I always say, you know, you've got
to be in order to be decisive, you got to
be confident, right I mean, if you're not confident, you're
probably not going to be indecisive in anything you do
in life. And right now he's just you can just
see he's in his tenth year. He's actually it's hard
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for me, Tobly called every game he's ever played. He's
the longest tenured quarterback for any team in the NFL
as a starter, and you know, he's just He's a
veteran guy playing really good football. Doesn't run like he
once did because injuries through the years, but ran just
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enough against the New York Jets last week to keep
them honest, and he'll probably do the same today. They
don't have designed runs for him, but if you want
to turn your back to the defense third and five,
he'll go get the first down.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Babe.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
How big has Javonte Williams, the former UNC tar heel
stand out, been at running back this year to help
back in that offense be who they are?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah, he's been great. Eight. It's funny. I liked him
coming out of college. And I'll be the first to
tell you I am not a draft guru. I look
at the quarterbacks in the draft. I played quarterback myself,
so I kind of go in and look at those
guys pre draft. But I don't look at every player.
But I did see enough of Javonte Williams. My sister
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in law went to UNC, my niece, her daughter went
to UNC, and so I kind of followed UNC football
a little bit more than most of the college teams
and really really liked him coming out. And obviously he
had a good rookie season, tore up as MELLI in
year two in Denver. But he has been I mean,
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he's been, I think more than they could have ever
hoped for. He's been. Well, you guys saw him. You
saw him at North Carolina, you know, and he's just
the same guy you saw there. He thought he'd be
in the pros. I don't get too much into the
whole pro football focus focus and next Gen stata, but
his yards after contact are right up at the top
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of the list. Well, he's a he's a physical runner,
and he's doing he's just doing a heck of a job.
And what impressed me most and this is the thing
you don't see when you're just watching a game on TV.
You know, his past protection is outstanding. So he's been
he's been good in every phase.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We're talking with Babe Lothenberg of the Cowboy Radio Network
talking about this week's opponent, the Dallas Cowboys, America's team
coming in here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Babe.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
On the defensive side of the ball, it certainly has
been different. Last in the league in yardage allowed. What's
what's going on? Defensively? It does seem like there's a
little uptick maybe for them, But then again, they did
play the Jets last week's I don't know if if
that's the cause for the uptick. What kind of defense
are we getting this week in here in Charlotte, in Dallas,
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Cowboy uniforms.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's been a banged up defense really from the get go.
They were missing guys when the season started. Now, you know,
every team is in that boat, and then the season
starts and you miss more guys. But they just haven't
had that continuity or cohesiveness. They play more zone than
any team in the NFL, or at least through the
first five weeks. Now. Matt Eberflus their defensive coordinator, who
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you can see what you will about the job he
did in Chicago as the head coach, but he is
a good defensive coordinator, well respected around the league. The
people I talked to around the league will tell you
pot you know, he's a good defensive coordinator. Now, the
numbers have been terrible, but again they're playing a lot
of his own because they just don't trust their corners
right now. You know, Trayvon Diggs coming off an injury,
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dron Bland coming off an injury, and they just haven't
been the same guys. And they've so many of the
corners hurt that again they just they you know, and
their sacks are down. They had five last week against
the Jets, but they had five in the previous four
games going end of that game, and you know, places, well, blitz, blitz,
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And I said, well, if you blitz you all those
corners that you know you don't like, you're putting them
in man coverage. So right now, you know, it's one
of those things where you just, hey, you guys are
NASCAR people there in North Carolina and they're just kind
of they're just kind of putting duct tape on the
car and getting it back on the track right now, defensively,
but then they will get better.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Now you're speaking our language, Yeah, now I understand just
making laps out there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Man, I got it.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
You know, I tell you a very quick story. Now.
Leek Horso, who was my college coach, he always told
me when he was doing TV, he said, baby, people
want stories, not stats. And to the NASCAR thing, right,
I never sat in a car that did over maybe
seventy miles an hour. I had a seventy four Nova
in high school. We're hoping to just go up to
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the top of the hill with it, you know, And
I did. When they opened up the track here, the
NASCAR track, Texas Motor Speedway, I went out and did
a thing. They invited a few I hate the word celebrity,
but celebrity is kind of out to do these test
drive things. You're in there with a guy, you know,
the driving school type thing. And so anyway, I'm going
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along on the track and you know, they gave us
some instructions beforehand and on, and he said get it
up to the wall, you know. And I'm like, oh.
And then next, you know, next lap, he said, hey,
get it, bring it up to the wall. You know.
Bo I think. I'm like, he said, hey, come on, now,
get it up to the wall. And I said, I
am six inches from the wall. He said, you said,
you're six He's like, you're sixty feet from the wall.
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But when you're doing a hundred, when you're doing one
hundred and fifty miles an hour or whatever it was,
you know, But so.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You get an appreciation, what for what other people do.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
When I'm sitting there telling them, Look, if I get
any closer, I cannot put a gene sterotory index card
between me and that wall. He said, no, no, no,
you got ten feet.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, it's amazing what they do.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
You mentioned in passing there your college coach, the great
League Courso, who goes on to fame as one of
the greatest television football personalities ever. But you've maintained a
friendship with Corso since you played with him. What's it
What was it like for you to know him as
a coach and then to see who who he became
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in the television world.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, I mean it's been it's been pretty neat, if
I can use that word. I know it's a little
sophomore work. But it's been a neat relationship. And the
funny thing is, for anybody that's played out there, probably
at any level, including high school or whatnot, any sport,
you know, the guy that I had, the League Courso
that I had when I was playing, was not the
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league course, so you see on TV. Really he looks
everybody well he was and he was, and everybody's kind
of like, god, he looks like he'd be so much
fun to play for. I said, well, when he's coaching you.
I said, half the time he wanted to ring my neck,
like any did coach with a quarterback, right, And I said,
the other half the time I wanted to ring his neck.
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And I said, now, I said, what used to be
we want to get our hands around each other's. Next,
now we hugged. You know, it's a whole different thing
you get older, and so it's been a neat transformation.
But you know, when hey, you're in college, you're playing
you know, I'm twenty one years old or whatever, and
you're just out there and you can go play and
you're having fun, and then you're going to drink some
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beer after the game with the buddies. You don't realize, hey,
this guy, he's got a family. He may get fired
if we don't win this next game. You don't feel
that pressure of the coach. And I'm like, why, why,
why is he so upset? Why is it? And ultimately
I will say he did get fired after my senior year,
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and I always tell him, I said, coach, you're lucky
I wasn't a better player, because if I was, you'd
still be in coaching. You'd be making half the money,
I said, And people hate you. I said. Now, I said,
now you're in TV, and you guys know this. I said,
you're on TV. People love you. You made twice some
money and you work half the year. I said, I
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should be on I should be on commission. I should
have got a pick.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You should have got a cut, you should have got
a gout. What a lifestyle? You set him up for
a baby.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Let's tight very quickly. He is great. I love coach course,
so I think I know everybody does. And he's been
fantastic to me throughout the years and we just have
a really good relationship. The one thing I will tell
you quickly about coach car so I love you can't
text him. He does not text, okay, I mean he's
literally ninety now, and so he calls you, and he
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when he comes in. You know, if they were doing
the Texas OU Game, which is coming up this weekend
college game, it was here. He also came in for
the Doak Walker Awards every year, and we'd always meet
up and go have breakfast in this hotel and whatever. Anyway,
people always say, Okay, babe, I'm coming in, I'll be there.
I'm going to see you. Friday eight o'clock. You know,
he tell me about ten times. He give me the
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time again right now because he's forgotten. It's just that
coaching mentality. Okay, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight o'clock. And
he said, take down my number. And I said, no, coach,
you know it's got your number. And he said, we'll
take it down just in case. I don't think he
understood that it's in new contacts, you know. And let
me just say, Coach Corso has had the same number
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since the cell phone was invented. So now there are
a few guys that, for various reasons.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They say, yeah, you know, I had to change that number.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Here's my new one. But but sorry to this day.
He was, okay, babe, take down my number. I said, okay,
that's great.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I had one conversation with him as a guest booker
and he told me he would call me right back,
and that was in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And he has yet. He has yet to hit me
back yet.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Hey, okay, I need I need to get the hotline number.
I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna say, coach, you stood
somebody up. Because that's not like him. He's pretty Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I mean maybe he just forgot, like maybe he meant
to call me back, like, yeah, I assumed that he
didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That would be going back.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That would be amazing if after all these years, you
hit coach up and what were you doing?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Coach to my man boone in Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You know what happened?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Hey, Boom, you know what happened? What's that You didn't say, coach,
write my number down?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's it, that's it. He did run down? Did run down?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
If he thinks about that moment he told me not
so fast, my friend, basically, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Okay, so they're not so fast? You already you know
how scute. And he's got that little pencil and he's
got the twinkle and the smile and everybody, everybody cheers
when he says not so fast. Well, that used to be. Hey,
if you think we're going to go up and the
he'd be screaming, right, if you think we're going to
go up to Michigan, We're just gonna go up there
and put our chalks on the field and blah blah blah.
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Not so effing fast, my friend.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Oh, nice.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, every time, every time my se
seat for my relationship. Again, going back to how things change.
When I see the not so fast my friend when
he would do it on TV, I'm like, Okay, that's
not the way it was. There was another word in
that not so fast my friend, but it was not said.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I love that he used as a coach. I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I babe, Hey, babe, pleasure to talk to you. Got
great stories. You're fun to talk to. We usually hate
on the Dallas cowboys down here. You might be the
most likable cowboys out there. Man, have fun. Get some
good barbecue in Charlotte this weekend, and we appreciate the insight.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Thanks for joining.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, very quickly, very quickly, Where do I go? Where
do I go for the barbecue to be the spot?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Where do we send him fit? I will, I will
text you some spots. You text them. I give to
check out the New York butcher shop. Here, restaurant that
is right, unbelievable stuff. That's a good one. Yeah, but yeah,
we got barbecue spots.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Text them off the air, because if they're not sponsors,
I don't want to like give them.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Thanks. There's so many good ones. Man, hey, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Banb yeah, bone very quickly. I know you got it
guys to break.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I love the Tom Petty line and.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Where he's in one of his songs he says, always
had more dogs than bones.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I always had more dogs and bones.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I like it, Babe. Thank you all right that one.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I hope that. I hope that doesn't apply to your life.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I'm great, Tay you guys.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
There you go.
It's time now, Bone to get some hit, some intel
on what's what's making that offense so good and what's
going on with their defensive struggles. Seems like they're playing
a little bit better on defense. Let's get a good
scouting report on the Cowboys from a guy that played
quarterback for Dallas and four years, I mean we're talking decades,
has been the radio guy in the booth as the
(00:22):
analyst for the Cowboy Radio Network. He is Babelfenberg and
he joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Babe,
thanks for coming on with us in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm doing well. Thank you. And you talk about decades.
I when you said that, I realized, I guess I'll
be on my third decade next year. That'll be thirty years.
If I make it. I just I don't say anything bad,
but I want to say quickly. So Bone, my name
is Babe. I've been Brandon is my real name, but
I've been Babe all my life, So Bone, you know,
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I always hate calling people nicknames if you don't know them.
It's like, you know, you meet a group of guys
and their buddy that have known since college. You know,
in the fraternity. He was snot face, right, so that's
how they called him a snot face or whatever.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
And so I never felt comfortable saying, you know, I
really I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You well enough to call you snot based, but can
I call you bone?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Okay? I also like how your name is babe, but yeah,
you don't like calling people by their nickname. Very interesting,
by the way, is your why is your name babe?
Like where did where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, you know what I came from six kids and
long and short. I used to just always carry a
baseball bat, like a plastic bat or whatever, and I'd
just be whacking balls, I guess as a kid, you know,
since the time I could walk, I'd just be walking
balls around the house or wherever. Obviously, we didn't have
video games when I was born, so and so it
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suddenly it became babe, like babe ruth, and the name
just stopped. You know. It's funny how I don't think
anybody ever gives you a nickname, initially saying Okay, this
will be the name for the rest of your life.
So I named if you know, I'm sure do Darryl Johnston. Yeah,
the former Cowboys fullback, and of course broadcasted the Fox
and we played together. I nicknamed them the moose.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Wow wow yeah, And it was one of and very
quickly it was one of those things.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We had a bunch of five nine running backs, right,
and they came into the room the one day. The
running backs.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Were in the other room getting the run game.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And of course now they're coming down to the quarterbacks
and receivers room to get the pass game. So they
walk them through the door and I'm sitting next to
Troy Bateman and they come in and five nine five nine,
five nine, here comes Darryl right six two two five,
And I said, I said the Troy, I said, I said,
Troy looked at look at DJ. I said, the guy's
a moose among the deer. That's great, YEA having no
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idea that from that point forward. And I remember he said,
I knew I was no longer Darryl when there were
moose calls going up in Philadelia.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh that's beautiful, man. That is a great nickname. The
moose calls were legend on this one.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Though.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
You're you're nicknamed after Babe Ruth. I'm nicknamed after because
it's short for t Bone name is Travis, so I'm
named after a George Castanza moment on Seinfeld.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I think you won this one.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Man. Oh, that's great, one of my favorites. I don't
know if you guys are music fans, but familiar with
T Bone Burnett.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He's in there.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, I've seen his name's familiar. When I googled famous
T bones, he comes up a lot. Do you have
a T Bone club you guys will hang out with?
I love, Hey, babe, what this Cowboy offense? A little
scary to it to us as Panther fans.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
The way they've been playing and the fact that they've
been doing it with you know, multiple O linemen out
last week I think it was four ceedee lamb out
for a while. How have they been playing so well
offensively with all these guys out?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah? I mean, honestly, my hat was off to Brian Schottenheimer,
Cowboy's new head coach last week because to your point,
they had four offensive linemen playing against the Jets that
did not start in week one, and it wasn't a
situation where a guy had been hurt and he came
back in week two where he was a starter. They
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had two sixth rounders, a seventh rounders, and two free
agents on that starting line. And they did a very
good job. You know. Obviously they scored thirty seven points
against the Jet last week, so and you're out your
number one receiver in CD Lamb. So the coaching job
they did was fantastic. I will tell you, Dak Prescott
is playing really, really well. I've always been a Dak
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Prescott I don't like to use the word fan because
that applies I'm up there cheering them on. But I've
always been a believer in Dak. Sometimes they haven't been
good enough around him, sometimes they haven't been good enough
on defense. But Dak Prescott has played some really, really
good football through the years, and he's playing just great
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right now. He'll see it. He's in control, he's confident,
he's decisive, and I always say, you know, you've got
to be in order to be decisive, you got to
be confident, right I mean, if you're not confident, you're
probably not going to be indecisive in anything you do
in life. And right now he's just you can just
see he's in his tenth year. He's actually it's hard
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for me, Tobly called every game he's ever played. He's
the longest tenured quarterback for any team in the NFL
as a starter, and you know, he's just He's a
veteran guy playing really good football. Doesn't run like he
once did because injuries through the years, but ran just
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enough against the New York Jets last week to keep
them honest, and he'll probably do the same today. They
don't have designed runs for him, but if you want
to turn your back to the defense third and five,
he'll go get the first down.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Babe.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
How big has Javonte Williams, the former UNC tar heel
stand out, been at running back this year to help
back in that offense be who they are?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah, he's been great. Eight. It's funny. I liked him
coming out of college. And I'll be the first to
tell you I am not a draft guru. I look
at the quarterbacks in the draft. I played quarterback myself,
so I kind of go in and look at those
guys pre draft. But I don't look at every player.
But I did see enough of Javonte Williams. My sister
(06:22):
in law went to UNC, my niece, her daughter went
to UNC, and so I kind of followed UNC football
a little bit more than most of the college teams
and really really liked him coming out. And obviously he
had a good rookie season, tore up as MELLI in
year two in Denver. But he has been I mean,
(06:42):
he's been, I think more than they could have ever
hoped for. He's been. Well, you guys saw him. You
saw him at North Carolina, you know, and he's just
the same guy you saw there. He thought he'd be
in the pros. I don't get too much into the
whole pro football focus focus and next Gen stata, but
his yards after contact are right up at the top
(07:04):
of the list. Well, he's a he's a physical runner,
and he's doing he's just doing a heck of a job.
And what impressed me most and this is the thing
you don't see when you're just watching a game on TV.
You know, his past protection is outstanding. So he's been
he's been good in every phase.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We're talking with Babe Lothenberg of the Cowboy Radio Network
talking about this week's opponent, the Dallas Cowboys, America's team
coming in here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Babe.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
On the defensive side of the ball, it certainly has
been different. Last in the league in yardage allowed. What's
what's going on? Defensively? It does seem like there's a
little uptick maybe for them, But then again, they did
play the Jets last week's I don't know if if
that's the cause for the uptick. What kind of defense
are we getting this week in here in Charlotte, in Dallas,
(07:51):
Cowboy uniforms.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's been a banged up defense really from the get go.
They were missing guys when the season started. Now, you know,
every team is in that boat, and then the season
starts and you miss more guys. But they just haven't
had that continuity or cohesiveness. They play more zone than
any team in the NFL, or at least through the
first five weeks. Now. Matt Eberflus their defensive coordinator, who
(08:18):
you can see what you will about the job he
did in Chicago as the head coach, but he is
a good defensive coordinator, well respected around the league. The
people I talked to around the league will tell you
pot you know, he's a good defensive coordinator. Now, the
numbers have been terrible, but again they're playing a lot
of his own because they just don't trust their corners
right now. You know, Trayvon Diggs coming off an injury,
(08:40):
dron Bland coming off an injury, and they just haven't
been the same guys. And they've so many of the
corners hurt that again they just they you know, and
their sacks are down. They had five last week against
the Jets, but they had five in the previous four
games going end of that game, and you know, places, well, blitz, blitz,
(09:01):
And I said, well, if you blitz you all those
corners that you know you don't like, you're putting them
in man coverage. So right now, you know, it's one
of those things where you just, hey, you guys are
NASCAR people there in North Carolina and they're just kind
of they're just kind of putting duct tape on the
car and getting it back on the track right now, defensively,
but then they will get better.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Now you're speaking our language, Yeah, now I understand just
making laps out there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Man, I got it.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
You know, I tell you a very quick story. Now.
Leek Horso, who was my college coach, he always told
me when he was doing TV, he said, baby, people
want stories, not stats. And to the NASCAR thing, right,
I never sat in a car that did over maybe
seventy miles an hour. I had a seventy four Nova
in high school. We're hoping to just go up to
(09:49):
the top of the hill with it, you know, And
I did. When they opened up the track here, the
NASCAR track, Texas Motor Speedway, I went out and did
a thing. They invited a few I hate the word celebrity,
but celebrity is kind of out to do these test
drive things. You're in there with a guy, you know,
the driving school type thing. And so anyway, I'm going
(10:11):
along on the track and you know, they gave us
some instructions beforehand and on, and he said get it
up to the wall, you know. And I'm like, oh.
And then next, you know, next lap, he said, hey,
get it, bring it up to the wall. You know.
Bo I think. I'm like, he said, hey, come on, now,
get it up to the wall. And I said, I
am six inches from the wall. He said, you said,
you're six He's like, you're sixty feet from the wall.
(10:33):
But when you're doing a hundred, when you're doing one
hundred and fifty miles an hour or whatever it was,
you know, But so.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You get an appreciation, what for what other people do.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
When I'm sitting there telling them, Look, if I get
any closer, I cannot put a gene sterotory index card
between me and that wall. He said, no, no, no,
you got ten feet.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, it's amazing what they do.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
You mentioned in passing there your college coach, the great
League Courso, who goes on to fame as one of
the greatest television football personalities ever. But you've maintained a
friendship with Corso since you played with him. What's it
What was it like for you to know him as
a coach and then to see who who he became
(11:16):
in the television world.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, I mean it's been it's been pretty neat, if
I can use that word. I know it's a little
sophomore work. But it's been a neat relationship. And the
funny thing is, for anybody that's played out there, probably
at any level, including high school or whatnot, any sport,
you know, the guy that I had, the League Courso
that I had when I was playing, was not the
(11:39):
league course, so you see on TV. Really he looks
everybody well he was and he was, and everybody's kind
of like, god, he looks like he'd be so much
fun to play for. I said, well, when he's coaching you.
I said, half the time he wanted to ring my neck,
like any did coach with a quarterback, right, And I said,
the other half the time I wanted to ring his neck.
(12:00):
And I said, now, I said, what used to be
we want to get our hands around each other's. Next,
now we hugged. You know, it's a whole different thing
you get older, and so it's been a neat transformation.
But you know, when hey, you're in college, you're playing
you know, I'm twenty one years old or whatever, and
you're just out there and you can go play and
you're having fun, and then you're going to drink some
(12:21):
beer after the game with the buddies. You don't realize, hey,
this guy, he's got a family. He may get fired
if we don't win this next game. You don't feel
that pressure of the coach. And I'm like, why, why,
why is he so upset? Why is it? And ultimately
I will say he did get fired after my senior year,
(12:41):
and I always tell him, I said, coach, you're lucky
I wasn't a better player, because if I was, you'd
still be in coaching. You'd be making half the money,
I said, And people hate you. I said. Now, I said,
now you're in TV, and you guys know this. I said,
you're on TV. People love you. You made twice some
money and you work half the year. I said, I
(13:04):
should be on I should be on commission. I should
have got a pick.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You should have got a cut, you should have got
a gout. What a lifestyle? You set him up for
a baby.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Let's tight very quickly. He is great. I love coach course,
so I think I know everybody does. And he's been
fantastic to me throughout the years and we just have
a really good relationship. The one thing I will tell
you quickly about coach car so I love you can't
text him. He does not text, okay, I mean he's
literally ninety now, and so he calls you, and he
(13:36):
when he comes in. You know, if they were doing
the Texas OU Game, which is coming up this weekend
college game, it was here. He also came in for
the Doak Walker Awards every year, and we'd always meet
up and go have breakfast in this hotel and whatever. Anyway,
people always say, Okay, babe, I'm coming in, I'll be there.
I'm going to see you. Friday eight o'clock. You know,
he tell me about ten times. He give me the
(13:58):
time again right now because he's forgotten. It's just that
coaching mentality. Okay, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight o'clock. And
he said, take down my number. And I said, no, coach,
you know it's got your number. And he said, we'll
take it down just in case. I don't think he
understood that it's in new contacts, you know. And let
me just say, Coach Corso has had the same number
(14:20):
since the cell phone was invented. So now there are
a few guys that, for various reasons.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They say, yeah, you know, I had to change that number.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Here's my new one. But but sorry to this day.
He was, okay, babe, take down my number. I said, okay,
that's great.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I had one conversation with him as a guest booker
and he told me he would call me right back,
and that was in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And he has yet. He has yet to hit me
back yet.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Hey, okay, I need I need to get the hotline number.
I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna say, coach, you stood
somebody up. Because that's not like him. He's pretty Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I mean maybe he just forgot, like maybe he meant
to call me back, like, yeah, I assumed that he
didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That would be going back.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That would be amazing if after all these years, you
hit coach up and what were you doing?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Coach to my man boone in Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You know what happened?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Hey, Boom, you know what happened? What's that You didn't say, coach,
write my number down?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's it, that's it. He did run down? Did run down?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
If he thinks about that moment he told me not
so fast, my friend, basically, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Okay, so they're not so fast? You already you know
how scute. And he's got that little pencil and he's
got the twinkle and the smile and everybody, everybody cheers
when he says not so fast. Well, that used to be. Hey,
if you think we're going to go up and the
he'd be screaming, right, if you think we're going to
go up to Michigan, We're just gonna go up there
and put our chalks on the field and blah blah blah.
(15:52):
Not so effing fast, my friend.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Oh, nice.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, every time, every time my se
seat for my relationship. Again, going back to how things change.
When I see the not so fast my friend when
he would do it on TV, I'm like, Okay, that's
not the way it was. There was another word in
that not so fast my friend, but it was not said.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I love that he used as a coach. I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I babe, Hey, babe, pleasure to talk to you. Got
great stories. You're fun to talk to. We usually hate
on the Dallas cowboys down here. You might be the
most likable cowboys out there. Man, have fun. Get some
good barbecue in Charlotte this weekend, and we appreciate the insight.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Thanks for joining.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, very quickly, very quickly, Where do I go? Where
do I go for the barbecue to be the spot?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Where do we send him fit? I will, I will
text you some spots. You text them. I give to
check out the New York butcher shop. Here, restaurant that
is right, unbelievable stuff. That's a good one. Yeah, but yeah,
we got barbecue spots.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Text them off the air, because if they're not sponsors,
I don't want to like give them.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Thanks. There's so many good ones. Man, hey, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Banb yeah, bone very quickly. I know you got it
guys to break.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I love the Tom Petty line and.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Where he's in one of his songs he says, always
had more dogs than bones.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I always had more dogs and bones.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I like it, Babe. Thank you all right that one.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I hope that. I hope that doesn't apply to your life.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I'm great, Tay you guys.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
There you go.
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