December 26, 2025 • 46 mins
The boys in hour 2 get in a big debate about if the quarterfinal games of the CFP should be home games for higher seeds, or if they should remain as neutral site games. We then go over some Panthers audio as they continue to prepare for the Seahawks game on Sunday.
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Sports Radio ninety two seven w f n Z The
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they'll be with you from ten to twelve.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
What I spilled my I spilled my uh crumbs from
my pop tarts all over my computer.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well behind radio. I thought there's something seriously wrong over there.
I mean it's this isn't just over there just making
a mess. I mean, it's problem. It's nothing. It's nothing
different than before and on the MacBook like wherever. I mean,
it's still not as bad. Like dude bones area in
the side studio where he eats his snacks.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh, he's a slob.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's it's it's you guys cannot talk, okay, I cannot
leave cross off of what Whenever you guys have biscuits
in the morning, I come it. It's like a war
zone happened at at the computer in the sunny. It
depends on where you gives him. That's not me.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Depends where you get the biscuit from.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Look, dude, if he shows up a Chick fil A biscuit,
you no chance in hell that biscuit that bis is
gonna fall apart more than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have this.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
She yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like that one. Huh yeah. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
For for bo Jangles, the majority of the time bo
Jangles biscuit stays together. Same thing with McDonald's. The big
issue sometimes is like, by the way, where's are McDonald's
this morning? I didn't even get myself McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I spent the night here. That's the kind of warrior
that I am.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Wow special, you know, drove back in the wee hours
of the night. Guy, here was a ghost town, got
a few hours of shut eye, was up at five
ready to get this thing going. I thought maybe i'd
be treated to breakfast. No, I told you guys, hey,
don't show up till five forty five. Yeah, I'll take
care of everything.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And y'all showed up at five forty five empty handed.
You know it's even better as Actually I didn't, I
know you could. I mean, you shown with coffee.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's not very much of a terrible item. You know,
you know it's even better for this. This will this
will make you mad. I even got a McDonald's gift
card yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Oh, I don't want you to use your money on
me though, shop your gift card money, Well, I'm gonna
use it eventually, probably.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
For both of us buying buying lunch or something.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't know, yeah, probably, But by the way, you
buying lunch today, that's him now, So you get to
skip out on that for a week now, maybe because
I was gonna have you record a podcast today, so
I was probably have to feed you to get you.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But but yeah, man, whenever we got we gotta like
get documented evidence of the next time Bone just leave
eaves and there's like a half open Pepsi bottle with
the cap off cat cap off, no cat, and all
of his crumbs from like his various different snacks that
he eats because like we're the butt of the jokes,
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Flyinger and I for being like the two fatties. But
like Bone will sometimes in the post show, he'll he'll
he'll make the vending machine visit twice in forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh my gosh, we are just throwing everybody under the
bus here today. We don't care who.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's a Friday after Christmas. There's like seventeen people probably listening.
Might as well get them all in before me before
they come back is There's no way this ever gets
back to him. No, it never happens.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
But I wanted to because I'm going to the game
with Bone on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So I hope like Bone finds out about this and
then confronts while we're at the Panther game cheering on
the Panthers. Why we watched him beat Seattle? So make
for good, like in you know, in in commercial game banter,
oh something. I'm a big fan of sure flound. We'll
fishly preview the CFP next Wednesday when we're back from
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from eight to twelve. But it's never too early to
keep order to turn our attention that way. I kind
of wish there were games this weekend to watch, yes,
because I looked at the schedule tomorrow for college basketball,
Oh my god, there's nothing. There's like three games total. Ooh,
so you have the two NFL games. But I would
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not complain if we had the same setup this week
that we had last week. A game on Friday, three
games on Saturday. But you know, college football is married
to the calendar. They want games on New Year's even
New Year's Day. Games that matter. When you look at
the quarterfinal round, which matchup on paper, maybe has your
eye the most.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh man, this is tough because I really really like
Ohio State and Miami I think in terms of the
talent on the field.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, you're talking about what they say the other day.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Eight of the top twenty five prospects on mel Kiper's
big board are.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
In this game. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean, you're gonna see just high level talent on
both sides of the ball in this game. Then there's
the other part of me that's really intrigued to see
what Texas Tech and Oregon looks like. I think, because man,
that could be a lot of points. I know Oregon's
not nearly as great as some of the previous Oregon
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teams on offense, but it feels like they're a damn
good offense. We saw how explosive they were in the
game against James Madison. Now matching up against Texas Tech,
who I think has just been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
They got the best front seven in college football. They've
they've been great. They went out and paid the money,
it's worked out for him. They've got a quarterback that's,
you know, hopefully pretty healthy now, and Baron Morton. I
think they've got a chance to put up a really
strong performance, and I'm telling you do not count them
out to make the National Championship Game because the one
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to nine matchup that could go away that I don't
think a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Of people are expecting.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I do think Miami, Ohio State is going to
be the easy answer because of all the game or
because of all the talking points around that game, all
the NFL Talent too Proud programs that we're gonna hear
about the the Fiesta Bowl or whatever it was from
the early two thousands, one of the most controversial endings
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to the National Championship Game. Ever, that'll be the whole
That'll be the whole broadcast, so that that's going to
be a storyline leading up to, during, and even after
the game. They'll still try to compare it to that
game from you know, twenty something years ago. I think
the answer is Texas Tech in Oregon because I'm with
you in terms of I think Texas Tech could get
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to the National Championship Game. I think whoever wins this
game becomes a legitimate threat to to get all the
way to to to the Natty because I think either
team matches up really well with Indiana or or Alabama.
Those two teams face off in the Rose Bowl, and
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that's gonna be a you know, a spectacle. That's it's
gonna take a lot to wrap your your brain around.
If you're a longtime college football fan seeing Indiana in
the in in the Rose Bowl setting with the number
one ranking beside their name and the favorite to beat
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the Alabama Crimson Tide, like it still hasn't like.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What Signetti's done.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Is is the most impressive thing we've seen, I think,
in the last ten years in the sport. And I
still don't think it's set in what all they've done,
because we right right now, the expectation that this team
could go win a national championship but flown. They're gonna
They're gonna play on the biggest bowl stage the sport
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has to offer against Alabama. Yeah, and they open as
a touchdown favorite, Like, it doesn't make sense. What do
you mean that Indiana open up as a touchdown favorite
over Alabama?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You think it should be more or you think it
should be like hear that sentence out loud. Yeah, I mean, look,
it's Indiana's a touchdown favorite over Alabama and football that's right,
What the hell is going on because Kurt Signetti is
that great of a coach, and it's the reason why
no matter what program you root for, you should never
give up hope. That's the reason always have hope is
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that you can find your Kirk Signetti and have this
type of success. That's the I mean, as Atario football fan,
that's what I choose to believe, and I think every
fan base should think that too. If you're an NC
State fan, you should think that, Hey, maybe it's not
Dave Doran, but maybe the next guy is gonna be
the one that takes us to a national championship or
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you know, gets us to being national championship type good.
Same thing with Duke. You know, maybe Manny Diez is
that guy. They our championship good, they won an HTC championship. Yeah,
that really means a whole lot got him into the
playoff too, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Oh? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, look, the thing is is that going into
this matchup, I cannot tell you how much I am
rooting for Indiana to win this game. I want them
to win this game so badly because I do not
think I didn't think Alabama deserved to be in the field,
let alone making the semi final.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But I mean, is Alabama pos Saban hateable? Uh yeah,
still Alabama? I mean though, I mean, I I don't.
I wouldn't even say I necessarily hate them. It's like
I said, I didn't think that team deserved to be
in the field by coming back from seventeen points down
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on the road and winning that game.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh see, I don't believe.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Because because believe, Oklahoma showed you they weren't a college
football playoff team was good.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Though Oklahoma wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
John Mattier looked absolutely horrible once again, and I think, look,
you can give them credit if you want to, but
I still think Notre Dame should have been in the
field over them, and I think Notre Dame would be
in this spot. I think there would be no question.
I think there's a chance Notre Dame's a favorite in
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the game against Indiana if they are playing in this
game because of the way that they were playing towards
the end of the season.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And the biggest thing for me, the.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Reason why I want Indiana to win so badly but
I can't. I just don't know if I see it happening,
is because they lost Stephen Daley along their defensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They didn't lose him. I think they win this game.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're talking about a guy that has nineteen tackles for
loss in five and a half sacks. How you were
placing that and even in the amount of time that
you had to prepare for this game.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I don't think it's possible.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
If there's a guy that could do it, it's Signetti.
And the talking points you just brought up is going
to be every talking head points that's you know, on
the SEC network. That'll be the justification as to why
they picked Bama to win the game, which is just
going to motivate Indiano's this Hoosier team even even more.
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I rooted for Ohio State in the Big Ten title
game because I am I'm not a Signetti fan.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That will not be happening in this game.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Like I don't find Alabama hate a ble, I'm just
exhausted by them. Yes, so why I don't want Like,
I don't want Indiana to win the National Championship. I'd
much rather Texas Tech or Oregon win the Natty. I
will pull for the Hoosiers in this Are you really
like that with this Oregon team? I just oh, I
want to see I don't know, man, I want to
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see Dan Lanning celebrate a national championship because I think
it could be the greatest like celebration on a on
a podium we've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Because he's certified.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Nuts Like, like, there's a case this guy could be
institutionalized because the way he acts.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
See Signetti would be interesting too, because Signetti was very
He would just complain. He would say, we're on and
what we're focused on next year, and it's like, we're
focused on running it back and.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's like, bro, you're coaching Indiana. Just savor this moment.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And but that's just that's not the way he's wired
because he's a Saban, he's a Saban disciple. Really quickly,
the real big talking point around this action that the
quarterfinal action is people want to see these games on
college campuses.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Stop it?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So at that point, what you're getting rid of every
one of these significant bowl games, hopper and rotate them.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think for what I think the seating sho should
matter more than just the first round.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So the thing, so you're what you're saying is you
believe that the Rose Bowls shouldn't be played every year Now.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
The Rose Bowls should be played every year because that's
where the national title game should be held every year.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But that's that's not that's not how it's gonna work.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
We know that because they want to go to all
these fancy news stadiums they want they are the amount
of money that gets bid to host these championships. The
Rose Bowl isn't going to be able to compete with
some of the money that some of these places are
going to be putting up.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But I mean, you know, I think Shrumpy brought up
a great point. Indiana is coming off their best season
in program history, Texas Tech wins their first conference championship
uh in In in almost sixty something years. You know,
you look at what Ohio State's done, and then you
look into Georgia's won an SEC title again under under
Kirby Smart, and they don't get to benefit the way
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that four teams at advance to this round of the
playoff did.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
While I don't I don't even think the first round
game should be on college campuses. I think should have
them at neutral sites. It's the postseason. Why so you
think that the to you, how about this, the NCAA
Tournament should be on home.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
They should should have home seating. Well they they they
used to be.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You used to play, you know, at home, and you
would host the you would host all the action there.
But you're you're comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing a
sixty eighteen field to a to a twelve team field.
This is a smaller field. So to me, yeah, every
game should be neutral side.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
You want more competitive games, you make these games neutral sites.
I don't think that's but you can't you can't prove
they're going to make those games more competitive. I certainly
think it would be because the fourteen out when all
the games were neutral sites, they're blowouts were in the
first round every single year. Yeah, but I I mean,
you go back, there were examples of teams that put
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up better fights.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Also, you look at you know, Central Florida.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You look at Tulane the year that they won, all
those were Bowl games that were neutral site. So if
you want these group of five teams to have any chance,
that's the way that you should go. I know it's
I know it's extremely unpopular. I would not expect this
take from you. If you're if you're begging for closer games,
then you should want these games to not be on
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college campuses because they create too much of a home environment.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I just I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
That should be the whole point of you having a
high seed, is that you get rewarded with playing in
your own.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Then we could do the same thing with college basketball.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We could say the same thing.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It's different travel with college basketball and everything, you'd have
to travel so much.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I would be open to your defense.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
If in the fourteen playoff air there were that if
every neutral site game was competitive, that just that just wasn't.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
But that statistically that's not gonna happen, not every single.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
If if if if the reason why these games went
the way that they went were because these games were
at home. Well, I like James Madison a closer game
if it's played it at the East of Ball Yes, no, yes,
because there isn't you know, granted, the still roster, didn't
you disparage still exists. Oregon is still bigger, faster, stronger,
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But because they're not playing in Austin Stadium James Masaco
and Pete better, Yes, I believe.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So what's the logic behind that.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That the environment really does affect it that much? Same
thing with Tulane. Toulaane would have put up a much
better fight against Ole Miss if it was.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Who had the best home field advantage of any team
in the first round.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I got beat at home a close game, though.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I think that's the only reason that the game was close.
It's because the was because of the environment. It's not
because Texas A and M is good. So let's just here,
let me hear you out.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You put that game at Jerry World and then beats
the crap out of Miami.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
No, I think it probably ends up being this a
similar game, and I think A and M potentially could
win that game. They would, I mean, they would still
have the home advantage, but I think that certainly is
something that you could mess around with. I to me,
I think if you want these group of five teams
to compete, then you put it in a neutral site.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I just don't know how someone that claims to love
the sport the way that you do. We've had two
years of playoff games on college campuses and look at
these environments that's created in South Bend, at Beaver Stadium,
at Austin Stadium.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Should not be advancing to the next round because then
you might as well, again, just scrap every bowl game
that you have.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You just put them in a rotation. But then so.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yearly you don't play the Sugar Bowl. There's only certain
years that you play it. Again, I mean, look, you're
not playing the Rose Bowl every single year.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Look, these these bowl games got to evolve as the
sport evolves.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So you think that the Rose Bowls should not be
played every year because it's not being played as the
national championship, Take that dumb thought out of your head.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That book.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
My opinion is a lot more logical than your opinion,
and a lot of more people agree on my side
of things, Like everyone that loves the sport came away
from last week saying, damn, could you imagine Alabama having
to go to Bloomington as opposed to Pasadena? Could you
imagine Miami having to go to Columbus but as opposed
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to works? But okay, but like no one is, you're
the only one arguing for less playoff games on college
campuses in college football.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I like neutral sites. I don't think even's the playing
field for everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Also, with your thing about like the Sugar Bowl being
in rotation, I mean, honestly, does it matter if it's
in New Orleans or not. I think just the name
carries a lot of weight, and the name can move
to whatever game it needs to be. Some some team
can play in the Sugar Bowl and have it be
a home game for organ I mean, what difference does
it make.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It's still the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I mean, now that's stupid. You need to there
are historic sites for these games. You need them to
be played in the historic neutral site. Like you're not
gonna say, hey, this game is the Rose Bowl, but
the Rose Bowl is being played in Bloomington.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
That's no, you can't have it. But the Rose Bowl
needs to be.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, and the way the Rose bul acts and conducts
and carries itself, keep doing it. You're you're, you're the
greatest Bowl tradition this sport has. You should not you
should not concede to the powers that be, mainly uh,
those from esp and Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
We come back.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
We'll turn our attention back to the Carolina Panthers. Dave
Canalis and Bryce Young. They spoke before the Christmas to
holiday ahead of Seattle of the game against Seattle on Sunday. Well,
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then neither should Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Who's your bow?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
So?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I don't know. I when when's your bow? Wwo's your Bobo?
I want that?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think that's a that's a who's Bobby? It's who's
your Bobby? I think is he supposed to be calling
out who's your Bobby?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I think that's exactly what say, don't you do? Get well?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Watch your mouth, sir. That's a great man right there.
They got him my Christmas gift.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Who's your Bobby?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He gave us tumbler cups. We've got our shirts.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm wearing mine today that says flound dog wound.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Oh so, uh. While we're reading text, I did want
to get to Tar Hill keV.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's where I was going agree with Fiddy either or
have either have the horses or you don't. Ab State
never beats Michigan and Arbor and and Arbor without the horses.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
It just.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
When I when I wrote down like that that line
of the topic, like if I'm being honest with you,
I was just kind of like trying to feel like
a third point to bring up.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, did not think it would lead to.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That type of debate to where I thought you would
just be on the complete opposite end of the spectrum
in a way that like I don't think I've ever
heard you be more wrong before in your life.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, I guess. I mean, like there are plenty of
people that agree with me.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, first of all, embrace the suck literally says you, sir,
are the only person at WFNZ that has a brain.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That was way before that conversation, Thank you. That was
your cherry pick.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And that was way that before we started arguing about
home field plaoff advantage in the CFP though that was US.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Seven fifteen, So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Which which So what topic was that that we were
saying that I think it was I guess the Alabama Yeah,
it was arguing about home field playoff advantage in the CFP.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
LAMB you know, I mean we can go to a
grease missile.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
He he was agreeing with Fiddy and Ice, and this
debate feels a little first take you with flounder defund.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You get that, get the hell out of here with
first take. I mean, it is that time of the
year for all dishes. They got to find their fill
ins for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, that would be the first time that someone with
knowledge would actually be on that show.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So hey, the former MVP of the Carolina Panthers appears
on that show three times a week.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, you say, does it have knowledge knowledge? No, I
mean he's he's fine, but the main the main host,
know him back really quick. The main host has absolutely
nothing because besides his NBA takes, other than that, he's
a complete waste of time.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So wow, that's right. You come after Drake May, then
you come after me.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, I still think Patriots fan Pagnato, Yeah, I still
think you in defensive view, I think you just caught
yourself with something you didn't believe in.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
No, I one hundred percent believe this that these games
should be neutral.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Site and you're trying to make the argument.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
The college football playoff when you make the playoff in
any when you when you make it in any college sport,
it's to be neutral site, even like super regionals in baseball, stupid,
stupid play them in neutral sites.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Who's your daddy chiming in here saying it might be
a little bit biased to for who he roots for,
but he says only the last two rounds should be neutral.
I you and OSU, as top two teams, earned at
least one home but.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Again, so get rid of any bowl game that matters
to you. The Rose Bowl will not be played every
single year, so at that point, I mean, either that
or pick out two bowl games that you really like
and just get rid of the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The best way to solve this expand the field to sixteen.
No one gets buys, everyone gets a home game, and
then from then on you go to then you go
to neutral.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Psychic we're gonna do that anyways. I mean, they want
they want twenty four teams in this thing. Because it's
all said and done, it's not just ridiculous, it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's not fair that a school like Indiana it enjoys
their best season and the history of their program. Undefeated,
they don't get they don't get that moment at at home. Now. Granted,
all that gets topped if you win a national championship,
but for you know, three of the four schools that
advanced into this this round advanced in large part because
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they got to enjoy a home field that they earned.
The teams won through four, even though yes, they did
enjoy a bye and they earned a bye. They should
have a chance to play at home, in front of
their home faithful in a playoff game and then advance
once you get to the semis. I think from semis on, yes,
put them at neutral sites and go from there.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Someone says the only game that should be the neutral
sites should be the championship game.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Are you or is your head up your ass? I
mean not?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That would be great, Like I think that'd be like
could you imagine watching a semi final game between like Indiana.
I'm trying to think of Notre Dame, like that goes two, yeah,
like two in state you know opponents, or like if
it's like.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's it's basically just high school football playoffs at that
rate because you're just playing every game up until the chance,
and you people are saying, what about the NFL. First
of all, professional sports are completely different because you go
to any of those, they're all played in home arenas
until you get the only one that's not is the
super Bowl when you get to a neutral site for
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the Super Bowl. Every other sport you play at home
and but you also play on the road.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Well, that's why they didn't bring up any They just
brought up the NFL. They didn't bring up every other sport.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, but the NFL playoffs, that's completely different.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
It's how different is it now? It's not, it's completely different.
It's it's professional sports and college college sports.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Made college I said it, college sports.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Those are the sports that need to be neutral because
I love the NCAA tournament. That's the justification for why
all these should be neutral sites. They all don't need
to be the same because I'm gonna tell you, if
you played on home courts in college basketball, the sixteen
Seeds would never pull upsets they do like you like
UNBC against Virginia, never happens. Wouldn't have been wouldn't have
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been close.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
That's such an easy claim to make because what sixteen seeds,
sixteen seed teams have won twice.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, but don't you like seeing those types of upsets?
But you're also just produced those types of upsets in
a college there is I guarantee you, But you're trying
to compeys a group of five team is never going
to win a game having to play in a home
in a home stadium, and their games aren't gonna be competitive.
So you can bitch and moan all you want about
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these these playoff games not being competitive. I it's I mean,
that's the thing everybody else does. We don't want to
see these teams in the playoffs. You want to see
them play closer games. Then you play games at neutral sites.
That's how you see closer games. Okay, So yeah, I
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think we're just gonna not agree.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, it's just factually incorrect because we based on what
we saw neutral site games in the fourteen playoff era
and what was the when what was the first round?
The majority of the fourteen playoff era, most most of
those of the games were blowouts.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, and most of them were involving power for schools.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So your argument is that if they're gonna be worst
blowouts being on campuses, gonna be even worse blowouts. I don't,
but we only have two years of data, and it's
just more about like watching those games, they they feel
like see, I.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Don't think they feel as special.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Neutral site games feel more special than feels like it
means something for me the news as opposed to being
on campus.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You like watching all the big time neutral site matchups
in college football, and like when these teams would like
when Alabama would schedule these big time opponents. But we'll
go play you in Atlanta, We'll go play you in Dallas,
because I like watching Texas and Ohio State and Columbus
as opposed to watching.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
And play in Jerry World.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, in the regular season, it's fine, but when we
get to the postseason, you want that big game feel.
You want games to feel like they matter, you play
them in neutral sites.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
The only thing is I feel like with the neutral site,
with the neutral sites, I feel like they've kind of
succumbed to the same fate as the Super Bowl is
to where it just feels so corporate and bland to
be there, to not have the same energy anymore. I
don't think as like the fans in the building do
not have the same energy as well.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They're of course they're not gonna have the same energy
for one team. There's gonna be energy the team that's
the home team. But in a case for James Madison,
you got to travel all the way across the country.
There are most of your fans are not gonna do that.
Or if you play a neutral site game, let's say
it's closer to the East Coast, there could be a
decent contingency of James Madison fans that are there.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I guess, I guess.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
My whole reason for the argument is that your seating
should matter more than what it does. I think I
think Oregon should have the benefit of having you know
or uh, you know Indiana to have the benefit of
having home field advantage for going undefeated, having a great season.
I think James Madison should be punished for being the
lower seat. I think they should have to go on
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the road and travel and do that. I listen, I
know it may not lead to G five schools, you know,
having the upsets, but they're not anyway. And you know
we saw it last year. I mean Boise State got
steamrolled in a new neutral sites. I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, well, I mean they didn't. First of all, they
didn't get steamrolled. If that game was in Boise, it
would have been I guess a much closer game. But
they didn't get steamrolled. I mean, they were right there
in that game for most of it. Now, part of
that is that Penn State may be fraudulent, and we've
learned that over the years that Penn State when they
get to these types of stages, are fraudulent. But I mean, yeah,
(30:27):
to me, that was an interesting game last year. I
didn't think to myself, you know what, if this was
at Boise, then I'd really be interested in the game.
And first of all, they did not deserve to have
a home playoff game last year because they were not
the third best team in the country. So that they've
done away with that sort of seeding. So maybe that's
(30:48):
more of a reason to make that argument. You go
to sixteen, I understand it a little bit more because
then you're still keeping these bowl games. But if you don't,
I mean all these bowl games, I mean, the ones
that are being played now don't matter. So you want
to make it to where certain years, the Orange Bowl,
the Sugar Bowl, the Rose Bowl most importantly doesn't matter,
(31:11):
or does it even get played. I just I can't
get to it because you had New Year six bowl games.
They yet they and yet they still felt like they
mattered in this depending on to be playing in the situation.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Look at who would be playing. You really want to
see the Rose Bowl be No, the Rose Bowl is sacred, dude.
We have said multiple times. The Rose Bowl is the
one that is sacred. I want to play the championship game,
but you can't play that as the title game every year.
They are not going to sell that every year to
the Rose Bowl. It's going to be sold off because
the amount of money that it makes for the sport.
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When you go to other neutral sites like Jerry's World,
you don't how much money Jerry pays to get the
National Championship game there. It's a significant amount of money
because it brings in so much money for them, and
they're college football is not going to turn that down.
The Playoff Committee is not going to turn down that money.
(32:08):
So that's that's that's ultimately the problem is you're leaving
behind some important bowl games and I think we're we
already devalue ball season as it is. I mean, none
of these other what game honestly means anything outside of
the games that we're going to see played on December
thirty first and January first. Well, really quick, I think
(32:32):
we're coming at this from different angles because I think
Fiddy and I realize that this is probably unlikely to
ever change. But I think we're coming at this angle
from this is what we would like it to be.
But I, you know, you're bringing up, oh yeah, all
the money and all that. I realized that this was
probably never going to change the way they have it.
But I'm coming at this angle from this is how
(32:54):
I would want things to be.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
None And that's fine. You can, you can want them
that way. I prefer they stay the way that they are.
Fitting just caught off guard, Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
That's that's again when I wrote the When I wrote this,
it was basically like a subplot to the topic, and
I think it would lead to about a thirty minute discourse.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But oh yeah, sorry, Dave and and Bryce. We were
supposed to get to you.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
We'll get we'll get to him next because we were
talking about the NBA next. I don't give a damn,
We'll talk panthers.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I can answer your question right now, Will it ever
regain Christmas Day. Now, I was gonna try to make
the argument for it, okay, but and maybe we'll do later.
Maybe later, maybe we'll try to do that next we
come back. You will hear Fro, you will hear for,
You will hear from Dave Canalis, you will hear from
Bryce Young right here on Sports Radio ninety two seven
w f n Z.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't want to come out.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z. The Young Guns
in from macim Boned. And we went through Thanksgiving and
did not see any of Willie P's spread yo, and
I don't think we saw anything from his Christmas festivities either,
not the I didn't get nothing. I got nothing on
you know, sent my way. I saw nothing on the twitters,
(34:23):
and I checked multiple times because I knew they were
having some prime rib at some point. You know, he's
big into the chartooery boards. Nothing, No, he didn't put anything.
You're I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You're just gonna make fun of me for it. Yeah,
it's a good point.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So uh, we're definitely we're we would definitely make fun
of you for sending it out.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I look, I don't like I expect it, like I
want to see I want to see what Willy's eating.
I want to see what Willy is wearing, and I
want to see that smile.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I mean, he's so you want you want the basic
white girl post of yeah, here's my plate.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He just wants more Willy, who doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
The best part was like on on Tuesday when I
was I was at the mall and I had I
had done concluded my Christmas shopping for my parents. I
stopped by some bar because you had to get a nice,
authentic New York slice, and I remembered that it was Festivus,
and so I was like, well, let me let me
(35:28):
text Willy and wish him a happy Festivus. So I
just text him Willie to get his attention. This dude
facetimed me and then he calls me, what what do
you want?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Are you not out of my hair? Yet?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
And then I was just like, I was just calling
to wish you a happy Festivus?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You blankety blank blank blank blank. Oh jeez, Okay, that's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
But like.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
We get to him and he tries to deny it,
but like the whole thing just a few sundays ago, Yeah, yo,
I just started adding yo, under everything I said in
the Willie voice, and he got uber defensive over it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And it sticks. But now he tuxed me, Yo, like
it because it works. He gave me.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
He's such an ugly look the other day when I
said when he walked into the studio from three to six,
I said sup yo, and he just looked and went really.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He also admitted, I mean, and I love it because
he cannot help himself. He referenced every stray he caught
on Tuesday show. He went back and listened to make
sure he guys a nigh everything that was said about him.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, I mean, someone on the text line earlier was
asking us to start beating up on him, and so
you knew we were gonna get around to it at
some point.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It's all about quote, I'm the station punching bag and
I'm all out of stuffing.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
That's a fantastic quote, by the way, I mean tremendous
stuff That is a one is when we get to Canalis.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, we can get to Dave Canalis and Bryce Young
el Yo.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Let's start with the.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Head coach of the Carolina Panthers, he admitted when he
met with the media on Tuesday. He spends a lot
of time thinking about how to strink consecutive wins together.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I spent a lot of time thinking about that. In
terms of the messaging, I know, I have to be
consistent about the things that we believe in because over time,
that consistency will lead to an identity, It'll lead to
a belief, and then it also just gives me a
chance to challenge our group, to challenge our guys to
have consistent product come alive. Are there things that we
can all own as a coaching staff. Absolutely, we have
(37:37):
to look at those things as well. And we're really
transparent with our players about situations that we could have
done better with the call or this or that, And
we asked the players to be accountable also to their
role and to executing with fundamentals and being where they're
supposed to be in our different concepts, And so that's
got to be the focus. You can improve anything you
can't measure, and so I can always measure the fundamental
(38:00):
basic parts of tackling, of blocking, of making sure we're
targeted properly in the run game in the past game,
on defense, making sure we're owning our leverage, playing with
each other rallying up with great effort, all those things.
It always comes back to that I can't even take
my brain to, you know, a lot of the bigger
agendas or bigger things that might be happening. It's going
(38:20):
to always be about the basics. But within that to
your question, yes, I'm looking for ways to try to
re emphasize our principles by how we approach it. And
we've had a couple of different modes during practice during meetings.
We don't change it a lot, but there's tweaks. There
are tweaks, you know. There earlier in the season, you know,
it was like, can we win on the road? So
(38:42):
I bumped the meetings back up to make it feel
like we're meeting at the same time as we would
at home. I don't know if that was a big difference,
but it was a change. I also want them to
know we're going to compete, and then we're going to
compete to find any little edge that we possibly can,
and whether it's the practice style, the meeting types, or
what time we set curfew in different things like that.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Did he say anything in that minute forty five? I
hope y'all caught all of that. You're welcome. I cut that.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I cut that sound, and you're welcome for that incredibly
long winded answer.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Just remember if we have cut some minute forty six,
we labeled him a certain way because I did not know.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
How long that would have been labeled bulk. I guess
yes instead of uh instead of chunk. Okay, yeah, that's
that's that's on my bad.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mainly pulled the cut because it put an image
in my head of Dave Canalis, the guy that admitted
to last year, going up into the booth before games
and it and visualizing is game script, which was a
real bad visual because his offense until the back half
of the year was really bad. But now, like I
(39:47):
was just thinking of Dave like sitting in his office
like with a pencil, you know, tapping against his head.
How do I get this team to win back to
back game? It is it, this is which we we
did it earlier in year, we did, but now we're
just win one, lose one, win one, lose one. Now's
the time of the year, though they want to they
(40:09):
need to string together wins obviously if they want to
win this division. But if they mean if if they
want if they want to be a threat. Man, I
feel they got to go in with some sort of
momentum as opposed to just this up and down roller
coaster they've been on the last two and a half
months or so.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Well, because the roller coaster would tell you that they're
gonna lose this weekend, they'll win to make the playoffs,
and then they'll lose once they get to the playoffs,
and so well, I think most people would take that. Yeah,
could you stand to find a little consistency. I think
that would be something that you would love to see
out of this group, is that they just find a
way to be motivated. And it's like I said, and
(40:45):
I didn't even realize this when we talked about it
the other day, and I get we'll we'll probably play
the next sound by coming up where he talks about
the three scene. Didn't even know that was on the line,
didn't even know that was a possibility. Still, so there
is something to play for. We were saying that there
really isn't much to play for. You're just playing thinking
that if Miami can pull an upset, then you can
(41:06):
win the division. Now, there's a lot more that's actually
on the line here, because if you could get the
three seed. I mean, it's not impossible that if you
were to make a run, you could host the NFC
championship game here if for some reason you got there.
Because the teams that are wild cards, I think have
just as good of a chance of going deep as
(41:29):
whoever wins that NFC West, So that could be interesting.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That could be one way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
If you're inside that locker room is hey man, we're
still playing.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
For a lot here. We got to come out motivated
for this game. Flounder teased it, let's please it. Here's
Dave Canalis on this week's message going into the game
with the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Not really, No, it's a championship opportunity, and that's the
way we have to keep that's I fully believe in
that part of our process. We can't change what we're
doing based on what's happening outside of these walls, outside
of this building, and what's happening in that game. Learning habits,
learning how to win in different ways, different modes, collectively
(42:10):
in all three phases is so important for us as
we continue to build our football. We can't pass up
opportunities to do that. So we'll compete all the way
to the end of this thing.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's the right answer. But there's no way for an
organization that hasn't made the playoffs since twenty seventeen, for
a corp that has quite literally won nothing. There's no
way this isn't being discussed within the walls of the
locker room, right. I mean, Dave Canalis has to answer
it that way, because if not, we would criticize him
(42:43):
for maybe being distracted. But you know that when the
players are talking about what's in front of them, what's
still capable of them achieving, they know if they get
the three seed, maybe that matchup favors them better than
the four seed. That five seed gonna be, it's gonna be.
Maybe it's gonna be one of those two teams for
(43:04):
the Rams or San Francisco. So I get what Canalys
is saying, But you you're telling me that Derek Brown,
when he doesn't huddle them together, isn't talking about hey,
in between like twenty seven f wards, Let's try to
go chase this this three seed, because I think it
does change the Panthers path to maybe going deeper in
(43:25):
the playoffs than maybe being one and done.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah. Well, I mean because That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
If you go in there and you you know, whoever
you end up playing at four as the four seed,
you're gonna be playing one of the hotter teams, especially
like let's say Seattle wins this weekend, continues to win
although they have the matchup with the Niners, I forget that.
So one of those two teams is gonna have to
(43:51):
fall at some point. But I mean, still, you know,
you'd rather play whoever that six seed is, especially if
it's the Rams, because then you know, when you in
your mind, you have to feel pretty satisfied with that
matchup considering you beat that team earlier in the year.
So I think that's probably the way that they would
look at it. The bigger thing is that the easier
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road through the playoffs, if you want to get to
the NFC championship game by some miracle, the easier road
is to be the three seed and have to play
the two seed in that next round, as opposed to
having to play whoever comes out of the NFC West
as the division winner, which will be arguably the hottest
team in all of football.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Or we could just make the NFL playoffs neutral site games.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I mean, I should championship.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yes, and you want you want to bring in you
want to bring in Carolina's chances to win. I mean,
who cares about going to loom And Field. You're just
making a neutral site game and everybody's satisfied. All the
Panther fans can travel. I think it actually makes a
ton of sense.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Well, you know, I mean I was reading, I was
playing off a tex text from the text line, Oh shocking.
But there the NFL has flirted with that idea of
making conference championship games neutral sites because of what you
brought up with the playoff. They know that if they
were to sell it, they could, they could make legitimate
(45:17):
Like you told me, Vegas wouldn't pay some of these
other cities wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Pay uko bucks. So I hope, I hope it never happens.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Well, that'll be the only time that Vegas will get
to see a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Dang, I hope it.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
But during the pandemic, when the NFL was trying to
figure out how to maybe operate, and remember baseball did
the the bubble.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Of course, the NBA had the bubble.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
You know, the NFL ended up letting teams play at home,
but they didn't flirt with with that idea.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
I hope it never happens.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
It would have shocked me if if it would, because
we're going to watch an international super Bowl at some point.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Don't know when.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I think within the next decade we'll see a super
Bowl in London, maybe in Germany, one of one of
those places where the NFL has had a lot of success.
So you know that texture was being a wise accident.
It was funny, but it really could It really could
happen one day where you could see conference title games
be beyond neutral sites to determine who gets to go
(46:21):
and compete for a super Bowl. Sports Radio ninety two
to seven WFNZ. The young Guns were filling in for
Mack and Bone. Here on a football Friday. Here on
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Young trade because it it might be the rare trade
(46:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
What I spilled my I spilled my uh crumbs from
my pop tarts all over my computer.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well behind radio. I thought there's something seriously wrong over there.
I mean it's this isn't just over there just making
a mess. I mean, it's problem. It's nothing. It's nothing
different than before and on the MacBook like wherever. I mean,
it's still not as bad. Like dude bones area in
the side studio where he eats his snacks.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh, he's a slob.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's it's it's you guys cannot talk, okay, I cannot
leave cross off of what Whenever you guys have biscuits
in the morning, I come it. It's like a war
zone happened at at the computer in the sunny. It
depends on where you gives him. That's not me.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Depends where you get the biscuit from.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Look, dude, if he shows up a Chick fil A biscuit,
you no chance in hell that biscuit that bis is
gonna fall apart more than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have this.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
She yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like that one. Huh yeah. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
For for bo Jangles, the majority of the time bo
Jangles biscuit stays together. Same thing with McDonald's. The big
issue sometimes is like, by the way, where's are McDonald's
this morning? I didn't even get myself McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I spent the night here. That's the kind of warrior
that I am.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Wow special, you know, drove back in the wee hours
of the night. Guy, here was a ghost town, got
a few hours of shut eye, was up at five
ready to get this thing going. I thought maybe i'd
be treated to breakfast. No, I told you guys, hey,
don't show up till five forty five. Yeah, I'll take
care of everything.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And y'all showed up at five forty five empty handed.
You know it's even better as Actually I didn't, I
know you could. I mean, you shown with coffee.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's not very much of a terrible item. You know,
you know it's even better for this. This will this
will make you mad. I even got a McDonald's gift
card yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Oh, I don't want you to use your money on
me though, shop your gift card money, Well, I'm gonna
use it eventually, probably.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
For both of us buying buying lunch or something.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't know, yeah, probably, But by the way, you
buying lunch today, that's him now, So you get to
skip out on that for a week now, maybe because
I was gonna have you record a podcast today, so
I was probably have to feed you to get you.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But but yeah, man, whenever we got we gotta like
get documented evidence of the next time Bone just leave
eaves and there's like a half open Pepsi bottle with
the cap off cat cap off, no cat, and all
of his crumbs from like his various different snacks that
he eats because like we're the butt of the jokes,
(03:13):
Flyinger and I for being like the two fatties. But
like Bone will sometimes in the post show, he'll he'll
he'll make the vending machine visit twice in forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh my gosh, we are just throwing everybody under the
bus here today. We don't care who.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's a Friday after Christmas. There's like seventeen people probably listening.
Might as well get them all in before me before
they come back is There's no way this ever gets
back to him. No, it never happens.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
But I wanted to because I'm going to the game
with Bone on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So I hope like Bone finds out about this and
then confronts while we're at the Panther game cheering on
the Panthers. Why we watched him beat Seattle? So make
for good, like in you know, in in commercial game banter,
oh something. I'm a big fan of sure flound. We'll
fishly preview the CFP next Wednesday when we're back from
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from eight to twelve. But it's never too early to
keep order to turn our attention that way. I kind
of wish there were games this weekend to watch, yes,
because I looked at the schedule tomorrow for college basketball,
Oh my god, there's nothing. There's like three games total. Ooh,
so you have the two NFL games. But I would
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not complain if we had the same setup this week
that we had last week. A game on Friday, three
games on Saturday. But you know, college football is married
to the calendar. They want games on New Year's even
New Year's Day. Games that matter. When you look at
the quarterfinal round, which matchup on paper, maybe has your
eye the most.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh man, this is tough because I really really like
Ohio State and Miami I think in terms of the
talent on the field.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, you're talking about what they say the other day.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Eight of the top twenty five prospects on mel Kiper's
big board are.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
In this game. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean, you're gonna see just high level talent on
both sides of the ball in this game. Then there's
the other part of me that's really intrigued to see
what Texas Tech and Oregon looks like. I think, because man,
that could be a lot of points. I know Oregon's
not nearly as great as some of the previous Oregon
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teams on offense, but it feels like they're a damn
good offense. We saw how explosive they were in the
game against James Madison. Now matching up against Texas Tech,
who I think has just been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
They got the best front seven in college football. They've
they've been great. They went out and paid the money,
it's worked out for him. They've got a quarterback that's,
you know, hopefully pretty healthy now, and Baron Morton. I
think they've got a chance to put up a really
strong performance, and I'm telling you do not count them
out to make the National Championship Game because the one
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to nine matchup that could go away that I don't
think a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Of people are expecting.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I do think Miami, Ohio State is going to
be the easy answer because of all the game or
because of all the talking points around that game, all
the NFL Talent too Proud programs that we're gonna hear
about the the Fiesta Bowl or whatever it was from
the early two thousands, one of the most controversial endings
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to the National Championship Game. Ever, that'll be the whole
That'll be the whole broadcast, so that that's going to
be a storyline leading up to, during, and even after
the game. They'll still try to compare it to that
game from you know, twenty something years ago. I think
the answer is Texas Tech in Oregon because I'm with
you in terms of I think Texas Tech could get
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to the National Championship Game. I think whoever wins this
game becomes a legitimate threat to to get all the
way to to to the Natty because I think either
team matches up really well with Indiana or or Alabama.
Those two teams face off in the Rose Bowl, and
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that's gonna be a you know, a spectacle. That's it's
gonna take a lot to wrap your your brain around.
If you're a longtime college football fan seeing Indiana in
the in in the Rose Bowl setting with the number
one ranking beside their name and the favorite to beat
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the Alabama Crimson Tide, like it still hasn't like.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What Signetti's done.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Is is the most impressive thing we've seen, I think,
in the last ten years in the sport. And I
still don't think it's set in what all they've done,
because we right right now, the expectation that this team
could go win a national championship but flown. They're gonna
They're gonna play on the biggest bowl stage the sport
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has to offer against Alabama. Yeah, and they open as
a touchdown favorite, Like, it doesn't make sense. What do
you mean that Indiana open up as a touchdown favorite
over Alabama?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You think it should be more or you think it
should be like hear that sentence out loud. Yeah, I mean, look,
it's Indiana's a touchdown favorite over Alabama and football that's right,
What the hell is going on because Kurt Signetti is
that great of a coach, and it's the reason why
no matter what program you root for, you should never
give up hope. That's the reason always have hope is
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that you can find your Kirk Signetti and have this
type of success. That's the I mean, as Atario football fan,
that's what I choose to believe, and I think every
fan base should think that too. If you're an NC
State fan, you should think that, Hey, maybe it's not
Dave Doran, but maybe the next guy is gonna be
the one that takes us to a national championship or
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you know, gets us to being national championship type good.
Same thing with Duke. You know, maybe Manny Diez is
that guy. They our championship good, they won an HTC championship. Yeah,
that really means a whole lot got him into the
playoff too, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Oh? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, look, the thing is is that going into
this matchup, I cannot tell you how much I am
rooting for Indiana to win this game. I want them
to win this game so badly because I do not
think I didn't think Alabama deserved to be in the field,
let alone making the semi final.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But I mean, is Alabama pos Saban hateable? Uh yeah,
still Alabama? I mean though, I mean, I I don't.
I wouldn't even say I necessarily hate them. It's like
I said, I didn't think that team deserved to be
in the field by coming back from seventeen points down
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on the road and winning that game.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh see, I don't believe.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Because because believe, Oklahoma showed you they weren't a college
football playoff team was good.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Though Oklahoma wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
John Mattier looked absolutely horrible once again, and I think, look,
you can give them credit if you want to, but
I still think Notre Dame should have been in the
field over them, and I think Notre Dame would be
in this spot. I think there would be no question.
I think there's a chance Notre Dame's a favorite in
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the game against Indiana if they are playing in this
game because of the way that they were playing towards
the end of the season.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And the biggest thing for me, the.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Reason why I want Indiana to win so badly but
I can't. I just don't know if I see it happening,
is because they lost Stephen Daley along their defensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They didn't lose him. I think they win this game.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're talking about a guy that has nineteen tackles for
loss in five and a half sacks. How you were
placing that and even in the amount of time that
you had to prepare for this game.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I don't think it's possible.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
If there's a guy that could do it, it's Signetti.
And the talking points you just brought up is going
to be every talking head points that's you know, on
the SEC network. That'll be the justification as to why
they picked Bama to win the game, which is just
going to motivate Indiano's this Hoosier team even even more.
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I rooted for Ohio State in the Big Ten title
game because I am I'm not a Signetti fan.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That will not be happening in this game.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Like I don't find Alabama hate a ble, I'm just
exhausted by them. Yes, so why I don't want Like,
I don't want Indiana to win the National Championship. I'd
much rather Texas Tech or Oregon win the Natty. I
will pull for the Hoosiers in this Are you really
like that with this Oregon team? I just oh, I
want to see I don't know, man, I want to
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see Dan Lanning celebrate a national championship because I think
it could be the greatest like celebration on a on
a podium we've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Because he's certified.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Nuts Like, like, there's a case this guy could be
institutionalized because the way he acts.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
See Signetti would be interesting too, because Signetti was very
He would just complain. He would say, we're on and
what we're focused on next year, and it's like, we're
focused on running it back and.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's like, bro, you're coaching Indiana. Just savor this moment.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And but that's just that's not the way he's wired
because he's a Saban, he's a Saban disciple. Really quickly,
the real big talking point around this action that the
quarterfinal action is people want to see these games on
college campuses.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Stop it?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So at that point, what you're getting rid of every
one of these significant bowl games, hopper and rotate them.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think for what I think the seating sho should
matter more than just the first round.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So the thing, so you're what you're saying is you
believe that the Rose Bowls shouldn't be played every year Now.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
The Rose Bowls should be played every year because that's
where the national title game should be held every year.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But that's that's not that's not how it's gonna work.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
We know that because they want to go to all
these fancy news stadiums they want they are the amount
of money that gets bid to host these championships. The
Rose Bowl isn't going to be able to compete with
some of the money that some of these places are
going to be putting up.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But I mean, you know, I think Shrumpy brought up
a great point. Indiana is coming off their best season
in program history, Texas Tech wins their first conference championship
uh in In in almost sixty something years. You know,
you look at what Ohio State's done, and then you
look into Georgia's won an SEC title again under under
Kirby Smart, and they don't get to benefit the way
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that four teams at advance to this round of the
playoff did.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
While I don't I don't even think the first round
game should be on college campuses. I think should have
them at neutral sites. It's the postseason. Why so you
think that the to you, how about this, the NCAA
Tournament should be on home.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
They should should have home seating. Well they they they
used to be.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You used to play, you know, at home, and you
would host the you would host all the action there.
But you're you're comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing a
sixty eighteen field to a to a twelve team field.
This is a smaller field. So to me, yeah, every
game should be neutral side.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
You want more competitive games, you make these games neutral sites.
I don't think that's but you can't you can't prove
they're going to make those games more competitive. I certainly
think it would be because the fourteen out when all
the games were neutral sites, they're blowouts were in the
first round every single year. Yeah, but I I mean,
you go back, there were examples of teams that put
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up better fights.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Also, you look at you know, Central Florida.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You look at Tulane the year that they won, all
those were Bowl games that were neutral site. So if
you want these group of five teams to have any chance,
that's the way that you should go. I know it's
I know it's extremely unpopular. I would not expect this
take from you. If you're if you're begging for closer games,
then you should want these games to not be on
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college campuses because they create too much of a home environment.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I just I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
That should be the whole point of you having a
high seed, is that you get rewarded with playing in
your own.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Then we could do the same thing with college basketball.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We could say the same thing.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It's different travel with college basketball and everything, you'd have
to travel so much.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I would be open to your defense.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
If in the fourteen playoff air there were that if
every neutral site game was competitive, that just that just wasn't.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
But that statistically that's not gonna happen, not every single.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
If if if if the reason why these games went
the way that they went were because these games were
at home. Well, I like James Madison a closer game
if it's played it at the East of Ball Yes, no, yes,
because there isn't you know, granted, the still roster, didn't
you disparage still exists. Oregon is still bigger, faster, stronger,
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But because they're not playing in Austin Stadium James Masaco
and Pete better, Yes, I believe.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So what's the logic behind that.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That the environment really does affect it that much? Same
thing with Tulane. Toulaane would have put up a much
better fight against Ole Miss if it was.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Who had the best home field advantage of any team
in the first round.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I got beat at home a close game, though.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I think that's the only reason that the game was close.
It's because the was because of the environment. It's not
because Texas A and M is good. So let's just here,
let me hear you out.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You put that game at Jerry World and then beats
the crap out of Miami.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
No, I think it probably ends up being this a
similar game, and I think A and M potentially could
win that game. They would, I mean, they would still
have the home advantage, but I think that certainly is
something that you could mess around with. I to me,
I think if you want these group of five teams
to compete, then you put it in a neutral site.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I just don't know how someone that claims to love
the sport the way that you do. We've had two
years of playoff games on college campuses and look at
these environments that's created in South Bend, at Beaver Stadium,
at Austin Stadium.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Should not be advancing to the next round because then
you might as well, again, just scrap every bowl game
that you have.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You just put them in a rotation. But then so.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yearly you don't play the Sugar Bowl. There's only certain
years that you play it. Again, I mean, look, you're
not playing the Rose Bowl every single year.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Look, these these bowl games got to evolve as the
sport evolves.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So you think that the Rose Bowls should not be
played every year because it's not being played as the
national championship, Take that dumb thought out of your head.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That book.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
My opinion is a lot more logical than your opinion,
and a lot of more people agree on my side
of things, Like everyone that loves the sport came away
from last week saying, damn, could you imagine Alabama having
to go to Bloomington as opposed to Pasadena? Could you
imagine Miami having to go to Columbus but as opposed
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to works? But okay, but like no one is, you're
the only one arguing for less playoff games on college
campuses in college football.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I like neutral sites. I don't think even's the playing
field for everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Also, with your thing about like the Sugar Bowl being
in rotation, I mean, honestly, does it matter if it's
in New Orleans or not. I think just the name
carries a lot of weight, and the name can move
to whatever game it needs to be. Some some team
can play in the Sugar Bowl and have it be
a home game for organ I mean, what difference does
it make.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It's still the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I mean, now that's stupid. You need to there
are historic sites for these games. You need them to
be played in the historic neutral site. Like you're not
gonna say, hey, this game is the Rose Bowl, but
the Rose Bowl is being played in Bloomington.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
That's no, you can't have it. But the Rose Bowl
needs to be.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, and the way the Rose bul acts and conducts
and carries itself, keep doing it. You're you're, you're the
greatest Bowl tradition this sport has. You should not you
should not concede to the powers that be, mainly uh,
those from esp and Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z.
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then neither should Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Who's your bow?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
So?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I don't know. I when when's your bow? Wwo's your Bobo?
I want that?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think that's a that's a who's Bobby? It's who's
your Bobby? I think is he supposed to be calling
out who's your Bobby?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
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Speaker 2 (20:43):
Watch your mouth, sir. That's a great man right there.
They got him my Christmas gift.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Who's your Bobby?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He gave us tumbler cups. We've got our shirts.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm wearing mine today that says flound dog wound.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Oh so, uh. While we're reading text, I did want
to get to Tar Hill keV.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's where I was going agree with Fiddy either or
have either have the horses or you don't. Ab State
never beats Michigan and Arbor and and Arbor without the horses.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
It just.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
When I when I wrote down like that that line
of the topic, like if I'm being honest with you,
I was just kind of like trying to feel like
a third point to bring up.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, did not think it would lead to.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That type of debate to where I thought you would
just be on the complete opposite end of the spectrum
in a way that like I don't think I've ever
heard you be more wrong before in your life.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, I guess. I mean, like there are plenty of
people that agree with me.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, first of all, embrace the suck literally says you, sir,
are the only person at WFNZ that has a brain.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That was way before that conversation, Thank you. That was
your cherry pick.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And that was way that before we started arguing about
home field plaoff advantage in the CFP though that was US.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Seven fifteen, So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Which which So what topic was that that we were
saying that I think it was I guess the Alabama Yeah,
it was arguing about home field playoff advantage in the CFP.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
LAMB you know, I mean we can go to a
grease missile.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
He he was agreeing with Fiddy and Ice, and this
debate feels a little first take you with flounder defund.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You get that, get the hell out of here with
first take. I mean, it is that time of the
year for all dishes. They got to find their fill
ins for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, that would be the first time that someone with
knowledge would actually be on that show.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So hey, the former MVP of the Carolina Panthers appears
on that show three times a week.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, you say, does it have knowledge knowledge? No, I
mean he's he's fine, but the main the main host,
know him back really quick. The main host has absolutely
nothing because besides his NBA takes, other than that, he's
a complete waste of time.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So wow, that's right. You come after Drake May, then
you come after me.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, I still think Patriots fan Pagnato, Yeah, I still
think you in defensive view, I think you just caught
yourself with something you didn't believe in.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
No, I one hundred percent believe this that these games
should be neutral.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Site and you're trying to make the argument.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
The college football playoff when you make the playoff in
any when you when you make it in any college sport,
it's to be neutral site, even like super regionals in baseball, stupid,
stupid play them in neutral sites.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Who's your daddy chiming in here saying it might be
a little bit biased to for who he roots for,
but he says only the last two rounds should be neutral.
I you and OSU, as top two teams, earned at
least one home but.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Again, so get rid of any bowl game that matters
to you. The Rose Bowl will not be played every
single year, so at that point, I mean, either that
or pick out two bowl games that you really like
and just get rid of the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The best way to solve this expand the field to sixteen.
No one gets buys, everyone gets a home game, and
then from then on you go to then you go
to neutral.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Psychic we're gonna do that anyways. I mean, they want
they want twenty four teams in this thing. Because it's
all said and done, it's not just ridiculous, it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's not fair that a school like Indiana it enjoys
their best season and the history of their program. Undefeated,
they don't get they don't get that moment at at home. Now. Granted,
all that gets topped if you win a national championship,
but for you know, three of the four schools that
advanced into this this round advanced in large part because
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they got to enjoy a home field that they earned.
The teams won through four, even though yes, they did
enjoy a bye and they earned a bye. They should
have a chance to play at home, in front of
their home faithful in a playoff game and then advance
once you get to the semis. I think from semis on, yes,
put them at neutral sites and go from there.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Someone says the only game that should be the neutral
sites should be the championship game.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Are you or is your head up your ass? I
mean not?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That would be great, Like I think that'd be like
could you imagine watching a semi final game between like Indiana.
I'm trying to think of Notre Dame, like that goes two, yeah,
like two in state you know opponents, or like if
it's like.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's it's basically just high school football playoffs at that
rate because you're just playing every game up until the chance,
and you people are saying, what about the NFL. First
of all, professional sports are completely different because you go
to any of those, they're all played in home arenas
until you get the only one that's not is the
super Bowl when you get to a neutral site for
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the Super Bowl. Every other sport you play at home
and but you also play on the road.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Well, that's why they didn't bring up any They just
brought up the NFL. They didn't bring up every other sport.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, but the NFL playoffs, that's completely different.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
It's how different is it now? It's not, it's completely different.
It's it's professional sports and college college sports.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Made college I said it, college sports.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Those are the sports that need to be neutral because
I love the NCAA tournament. That's the justification for why
all these should be neutral sites. They all don't need
to be the same because I'm gonna tell you, if
you played on home courts in college basketball, the sixteen
Seeds would never pull upsets they do like you like
UNBC against Virginia, never happens. Wouldn't have been wouldn't have
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been close.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
That's such an easy claim to make because what sixteen seeds,
sixteen seed teams have won twice.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, but don't you like seeing those types of upsets?
But you're also just produced those types of upsets in
a college there is I guarantee you, But you're trying
to compeys a group of five team is never going
to win a game having to play in a home
in a home stadium, and their games aren't gonna be competitive.
So you can bitch and moan all you want about
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these these playoff games not being competitive. I it's I mean,
that's the thing everybody else does. We don't want to
see these teams in the playoffs. You want to see
them play closer games. Then you play games at neutral sites.
That's how you see closer games. Okay, So yeah, I
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think we're just gonna not agree.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, it's just factually incorrect because we based on what
we saw neutral site games in the fourteen playoff era
and what was the when what was the first round?
The majority of the fourteen playoff era, most most of
those of the games were blowouts.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, and most of them were involving power for schools.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So your argument is that if they're gonna be worst
blowouts being on campuses, gonna be even worse blowouts. I don't,
but we only have two years of data, and it's
just more about like watching those games, they they feel
like see, I.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Don't think they feel as special.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Neutral site games feel more special than feels like it
means something for me the news as opposed to being
on campus.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You like watching all the big time neutral site matchups
in college football, and like when these teams would like
when Alabama would schedule these big time opponents. But we'll
go play you in Atlanta, We'll go play you in Dallas,
because I like watching Texas and Ohio State and Columbus
as opposed to watching.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
And play in Jerry World.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, in the regular season, it's fine, but when we
get to the postseason, you want that big game feel.
You want games to feel like they matter, you play
them in neutral sites.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
The only thing is I feel like with the neutral site,
with the neutral sites, I feel like they've kind of
succumbed to the same fate as the Super Bowl is
to where it just feels so corporate and bland to
be there, to not have the same energy anymore. I
don't think as like the fans in the building do
not have the same energy as well.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They're of course they're not gonna have the same energy
for one team. There's gonna be energy the team that's
the home team. But in a case for James Madison,
you got to travel all the way across the country.
There are most of your fans are not gonna do that.
Or if you play a neutral site game, let's say
it's closer to the East Coast, there could be a
decent contingency of James Madison fans that are there.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I guess, I guess.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
My whole reason for the argument is that your seating
should matter more than what it does. I think I
think Oregon should have the benefit of having you know
or uh, you know Indiana to have the benefit of
having home field advantage for going undefeated, having a great season.
I think James Madison should be punished for being the
lower seat. I think they should have to go on
(29:48):
the road and travel and do that. I listen, I
know it may not lead to G five schools, you know,
having the upsets, but they're not anyway. And you know
we saw it last year. I mean Boise State got
steamrolled in a new neutral sites. I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, well, I mean they didn't. First of all, they
didn't get steamrolled. If that game was in Boise, it
would have been I guess a much closer game. But
they didn't get steamrolled. I mean, they were right there
in that game for most of it. Now, part of
that is that Penn State may be fraudulent, and we've
learned that over the years that Penn State when they
get to these types of stages, are fraudulent. But I mean, yeah,
(30:27):
to me, that was an interesting game last year. I
didn't think to myself, you know what, if this was
at Boise, then I'd really be interested in the game.
And first of all, they did not deserve to have
a home playoff game last year because they were not
the third best team in the country. So that they've
done away with that sort of seeding. So maybe that's
(30:48):
more of a reason to make that argument. You go
to sixteen, I understand it a little bit more because
then you're still keeping these bowl games. But if you don't,
I mean all these bowl games, I mean, the ones
that are being played now don't matter. So you want
to make it to where certain years, the Orange Bowl,
the Sugar Bowl, the Rose Bowl most importantly doesn't matter,
(31:11):
or does it even get played. I just I can't
get to it because you had New Year six bowl games.
They yet they and yet they still felt like they
mattered in this depending on to be playing in the situation.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Look at who would be playing. You really want to
see the Rose Bowl be No, the Rose Bowl is sacred, dude.
We have said multiple times. The Rose Bowl is the
one that is sacred. I want to play the championship game,
but you can't play that as the title game every year.
They are not going to sell that every year to
the Rose Bowl. It's going to be sold off because
the amount of money that it makes for the sport.
(31:47):
When you go to other neutral sites like Jerry's World,
you don't how much money Jerry pays to get the
National Championship game there. It's a significant amount of money
because it brings in so much money for them, and
they're college football is not going to turn that down.
The Playoff Committee is not going to turn down that money.
(32:08):
So that's that's that's ultimately the problem is you're leaving
behind some important bowl games and I think we're we
already devalue ball season as it is. I mean, none
of these other what game honestly means anything outside of
the games that we're going to see played on December
thirty first and January first. Well, really quick, I think
(32:32):
we're coming at this from different angles because I think
Fiddy and I realize that this is probably unlikely to
ever change. But I think we're coming at this angle
from this is what we would like it to be.
But I, you know, you're bringing up, oh yeah, all
the money and all that. I realized that this was
probably never going to change the way they have it.
But I'm coming at this angle from this is how
(32:54):
I would want things to be.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
None And that's fine. You can, you can want them
that way. I prefer they stay the way that they are.
Fitting just caught off guard, Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
That's that's again when I wrote the When I wrote this,
it was basically like a subplot to the topic, and
I think it would lead to about a thirty minute discourse.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But oh yeah, sorry, Dave and and Bryce. We were
supposed to get to you.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
We'll get we'll get to him next because we were
talking about the NBA next. I don't give a damn,
We'll talk panthers.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I can answer your question right now, Will it ever
regain Christmas Day. Now, I was gonna try to make
the argument for it, okay, but and maybe we'll do later.
Maybe later, maybe we'll try to do that next we
come back. You will hear Fro, you will hear for,
You will hear from Dave Canalis, you will hear from
Bryce Young right here on Sports Radio ninety two seven
w f n Z.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't want to come out.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z. The Young Guns
in from macim Boned. And we went through Thanksgiving and
did not see any of Willie P's spread yo, and
I don't think we saw anything from his Christmas festivities either,
not the I didn't get nothing. I got nothing on
you know, sent my way. I saw nothing on the twitters,
(34:23):
and I checked multiple times because I knew they were
having some prime rib at some point. You know, he's
big into the chartooery boards. Nothing, No, he didn't put anything.
You're I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You're just gonna make fun of me for it. Yeah,
it's a good point.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So uh, we're definitely we're we would definitely make fun
of you for sending it out.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I look, I don't like I expect it, like I
want to see I want to see what Willy's eating.
I want to see what Willy is wearing, and I
want to see that smile.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I mean, he's so you want you want the basic
white girl post of yeah, here's my plate.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He just wants more Willy, who doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
The best part was like on on Tuesday when I
was I was at the mall and I had I
had done concluded my Christmas shopping for my parents. I
stopped by some bar because you had to get a nice,
authentic New York slice, and I remembered that it was Festivus,
and so I was like, well, let me let me
(35:28):
text Willy and wish him a happy Festivus. So I
just text him Willie to get his attention. This dude
facetimed me and then he calls me, what what do
you want?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Are you not out of my hair? Yet?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
And then I was just like, I was just calling
to wish you a happy Festivus?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You blankety blank blank blank blank. Oh jeez, Okay, that's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
But like.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
We get to him and he tries to deny it,
but like the whole thing just a few sundays ago, Yeah, yo,
I just started adding yo, under everything I said in
the Willie voice, and he got uber defensive over it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And it sticks. But now he tuxed me, Yo, like
it because it works. He gave me.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
He's such an ugly look the other day when I
said when he walked into the studio from three to six,
I said sup yo, and he just looked and went really.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He also admitted, I mean, and I love it because
he cannot help himself. He referenced every stray he caught
on Tuesday show. He went back and listened to make
sure he guys a nigh everything that was said about him.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, I mean, someone on the text line earlier was
asking us to start beating up on him, and so
you knew we were gonna get around to it at
some point.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It's all about quote, I'm the station punching bag and
I'm all out of stuffing.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
That's a fantastic quote, by the way, I mean tremendous
stuff That is a one is when we get to Canalis.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, we can get to Dave Canalis and Bryce Young
el Yo.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Let's start with the.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Head coach of the Carolina Panthers, he admitted when he
met with the media on Tuesday. He spends a lot
of time thinking about how to strink consecutive wins together.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I spent a lot of time thinking about that. In
terms of the messaging, I know, I have to be
consistent about the things that we believe in because over time,
that consistency will lead to an identity, It'll lead to
a belief, and then it also just gives me a
chance to challenge our group, to challenge our guys to
have consistent product come alive. Are there things that we
can all own as a coaching staff. Absolutely, we have
(37:37):
to look at those things as well. And we're really
transparent with our players about situations that we could have
done better with the call or this or that, And
we asked the players to be accountable also to their
role and to executing with fundamentals and being where they're
supposed to be in our different concepts, And so that's
got to be the focus. You can improve anything you
can't measure, and so I can always measure the fundamental
(38:00):
basic parts of tackling, of blocking, of making sure we're
targeted properly in the run game in the past game,
on defense, making sure we're owning our leverage, playing with
each other rallying up with great effort, all those things.
It always comes back to that I can't even take
my brain to, you know, a lot of the bigger
agendas or bigger things that might be happening. It's going
(38:20):
to always be about the basics. But within that to
your question, yes, I'm looking for ways to try to
re emphasize our principles by how we approach it. And
we've had a couple of different modes during practice during meetings.
We don't change it a lot, but there's tweaks. There
are tweaks, you know. There earlier in the season, you know,
it was like, can we win on the road? So
(38:42):
I bumped the meetings back up to make it feel
like we're meeting at the same time as we would
at home. I don't know if that was a big difference,
but it was a change. I also want them to
know we're going to compete, and then we're going to
compete to find any little edge that we possibly can,
and whether it's the practice style, the meeting types, or
what time we set curfew in different things like that.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Did he say anything in that minute forty five? I
hope y'all caught all of that. You're welcome. I cut that.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I cut that sound, and you're welcome for that incredibly
long winded answer.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Just remember if we have cut some minute forty six,
we labeled him a certain way because I did not know.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
How long that would have been labeled bulk. I guess
yes instead of uh instead of chunk. Okay, yeah, that's
that's that's on my bad.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mainly pulled the cut because it put an image
in my head of Dave Canalis, the guy that admitted
to last year, going up into the booth before games
and it and visualizing is game script, which was a
real bad visual because his offense until the back half
of the year was really bad. But now, like I
(39:47):
was just thinking of Dave like sitting in his office
like with a pencil, you know, tapping against his head.
How do I get this team to win back to
back game? It is it, this is which we we
did it earlier in year, we did, but now we're
just win one, lose one, win one, lose one. Now's
the time of the year, though they want to they
(40:09):
need to string together wins obviously if they want to
win this division. But if they mean if if they
want if they want to be a threat. Man, I
feel they got to go in with some sort of
momentum as opposed to just this up and down roller
coaster they've been on the last two and a half
months or so.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Well, because the roller coaster would tell you that they're
gonna lose this weekend, they'll win to make the playoffs,
and then they'll lose once they get to the playoffs,
and so well, I think most people would take that. Yeah,
could you stand to find a little consistency. I think
that would be something that you would love to see
out of this group, is that they just find a
way to be motivated. And it's like I said, and
(40:45):
I didn't even realize this when we talked about it
the other day, and I get we'll we'll probably play
the next sound by coming up where he talks about
the three scene. Didn't even know that was on the line,
didn't even know that was a possibility. Still, so there
is something to play for. We were saying that there
really isn't much to play for. You're just playing thinking
that if Miami can pull an upset, then you can
(41:06):
win the division. Now, there's a lot more that's actually
on the line here, because if you could get the
three seed. I mean, it's not impossible that if you
were to make a run, you could host the NFC
championship game here if for some reason you got there.
Because the teams that are wild cards, I think have
just as good of a chance of going deep as
(41:29):
whoever wins that NFC West, So that could be interesting.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That could be one way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
If you're inside that locker room is hey man, we're
still playing.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
For a lot here. We got to come out motivated
for this game. Flounder teased it, let's please it. Here's
Dave Canalis on this week's message going into the game
with the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Not really, No, it's a championship opportunity, and that's the
way we have to keep that's I fully believe in
that part of our process. We can't change what we're
doing based on what's happening outside of these walls, outside
of this building, and what's happening in that game. Learning habits,
learning how to win in different ways, different modes, collectively
(42:10):
in all three phases is so important for us as
we continue to build our football. We can't pass up
opportunities to do that. So we'll compete all the way
to the end of this thing.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's the right answer. But there's no way for an
organization that hasn't made the playoffs since twenty seventeen, for
a corp that has quite literally won nothing. There's no
way this isn't being discussed within the walls of the
locker room, right. I mean, Dave Canalis has to answer
it that way, because if not, we would criticize him
(42:43):
for maybe being distracted. But you know that when the
players are talking about what's in front of them, what's
still capable of them achieving, they know if they get
the three seed, maybe that matchup favors them better than
the four seed. That five seed gonna be, it's gonna be.
Maybe it's gonna be one of those two teams for
(43:04):
the Rams or San Francisco. So I get what Canalys
is saying, But you you're telling me that Derek Brown,
when he doesn't huddle them together, isn't talking about hey,
in between like twenty seven f wards, Let's try to
go chase this this three seed, because I think it
does change the Panthers path to maybe going deeper in
(43:25):
the playoffs than maybe being one and done.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah. Well, I mean because That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
If you go in there and you you know, whoever
you end up playing at four as the four seed,
you're gonna be playing one of the hotter teams, especially
like let's say Seattle wins this weekend, continues to win
although they have the matchup with the Niners, I forget that.
So one of those two teams is gonna have to
(43:51):
fall at some point. But I mean, still, you know,
you'd rather play whoever that six seed is, especially if
it's the Rams, because then you know, when you in
your mind, you have to feel pretty satisfied with that
matchup considering you beat that team earlier in the year.
So I think that's probably the way that they would
look at it. The bigger thing is that the easier
(44:13):
road through the playoffs, if you want to get to
the NFC championship game by some miracle, the easier road
is to be the three seed and have to play
the two seed in that next round, as opposed to
having to play whoever comes out of the NFC West
as the division winner, which will be arguably the hottest
team in all of football.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Or we could just make the NFL playoffs neutral site games.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I mean, I should championship.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yes, and you want you want to bring in you
want to bring in Carolina's chances to win. I mean,
who cares about going to loom And Field. You're just
making a neutral site game and everybody's satisfied. All the
Panther fans can travel. I think it actually makes a
ton of sense.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Well, you know, I mean I was reading, I was
playing off a tex text from the text line, Oh shocking.
But there the NFL has flirted with that idea of
making conference championship games neutral sites because of what you
brought up with the playoff. They know that if they
were to sell it, they could, they could make legitimate
(45:17):
Like you told me, Vegas wouldn't pay some of these
other cities wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Pay uko bucks. So I hope, I hope it never happens.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Well, that'll be the only time that Vegas will get
to see a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Dang, I hope it.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
But during the pandemic, when the NFL was trying to
figure out how to maybe operate, and remember baseball did
the the bubble.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Of course, the NBA had the bubble.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
You know, the NFL ended up letting teams play at home,
but they didn't flirt with with that idea.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
I hope it never happens.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
It would have shocked me if if it would, because
we're going to watch an international super Bowl at some point.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Don't know when.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I think within the next decade we'll see a super
Bowl in London, maybe in Germany, one of one of
those places where the NFL has had a lot of success.
So you know that texture was being a wise accident.
It was funny, but it really could It really could
happen one day where you could see conference title games
be beyond neutral sites to determine who gets to go
(46:21):
and compete for a super Bowl. Sports Radio ninety two
to seven WFNZ. The young Guns were filling in for
Mack and Bone. Here on a football Friday. Here on
a Panther Friday. We come back. We'll keep the Panther
talk going. I want to want to revisit the Bryce
Young trade because it it might be the rare trade
(46:41):
where both teams win. We'll talk about that next or one.
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