October 1, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is Tuesday night. We hope your Tuesday has been well. Mac.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's week five in the regular season and the National
Football League and the Titans are about to head to
the house at Mackville State Farm Stadium, Glendale, Arizona to
take on the Arizona Cardinals. We're on the air at
two Central with Farm Bureau Health Plans, Titans countdown and
then kick off at three oh five with yourself and
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Taylor a Zarzar Titans and Cardinals, and we know that
you have things you want to discuss with coach Max
six one five, seven, three seven, one four to five.
First up, you knew he'd be here, Eric in Nashville,
Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hey guys, First of all, I just wanted to say, uh,
like I said, my birthday was Friday. I actually went
with my good friend. You guys are on too kend
of the Mailman and his wife by that we went
to gabs Hamburgers to celebrate my birthday today and the
gang there just wanted to give them a shout out
because they wanted to tell you, guys, Heylus got a
lot of Titans talked today about the game this past weekend.
Just thought i'd throw that out there, guys. But Coach Mac,
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my question is actually not concerning that game. Actually you
thought you may get into this, but I wanted to
be the first bring it up. And it was the
Sunday night game, the Green Bay Dallas game where the
game end of the tie, and there's a lot of
people been talking about that and a lot of people
upset about the tie. Here's my feelings on that. I
had no problem with the old overtime rules. I understand
you now want to give both teams a position and
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all this type of stuff. But here's one of the
things I laugh about. It's so hilarious. They shorten overtime
now by course, by five minutes. Used to be fifteen minutes,
it's nine, it's ten because they said, well, we didn't
want players playing too long because we didn't want them
to getting exhausted, getting hurt. But I find it laughable
because of course we're now playing seventeen games and talk
about going to eighteen games, and it's just so frustrating,
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and it just wanted to get your thoughts about the
whole overtime rule. Are you kind of old school that
you didn't care You just want the first team score
a win. Do you like to be overtime rules and
just in your feelings in general about time, guys, don't
get off talk to you a getting soon. Tighten up,
y'all take care.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All right, Eric, appreciate you all.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thank you very much. I like these overtime rules. I
like everybody getting a chance at it. And plus, you know,
you can't worry about the there's not going to be
very many overtime games played. I mean, that's the thing
that you look at. I mean, it's an overtime in
the National Football League is really an anomaly, and I
tell you most coaches, most coaches really didn't like when
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you go into overtime. I mean, it's the whole fifteen
minute thing, and especially the way that scoring was.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It was pretty the it.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Was inequitable when everybody didn't get a chance at the football.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I like the way it is. Now. Do you like
ending up in a tie?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well, I mean you've got to look at it and
see what you were doing during the ballgame. Sometimes you
feel fortunate to come out with the tie. But there's
not that many going to be that many overtime games,
so it's really not going to have a big effect
on a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, Usually the overtime will be decisive and somebody will
score when somebody else didn't and it's done. Ties are
a little more rare this this day and age. The
one thing I'm glad of is that we didn't broadcast
a full overtime period and then ended a tie.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I'm okay with that. It's all right if it happens
to somebody else, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And as I said, the way the way the overtimes
are now, I mean they're not it's it's it's not
it's not a huge thing to even worry about.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Really.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, But you're right though.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The way they've got it shaped now, I mean, everybody
gets a chance, and if it's still not up at
the end of the overtime period, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So there we are.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Back to the phones. We go six five seven, three seven,
one four five. David in Lebanon. Hello, you're on with
coach David McGinnis. Are you there, David? All right, David,
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I don't know what happened there. Sounds like he was
in a cave.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Either that are underwater, maybe both, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Uh, we will still take your calls and questions throughout
the hour six one, five, seven, three seven, one four
to five, and as we normally do throughout the hour,
we will discuss the next opponent, the Arizona Cardinals kind
of get the tail of the tape and some of
the numbers on them. We'll look at some of the
games around the league in week five and continue to
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take your reaction. Six six, one, five, seven, three seven,
one four five is the number. There's nothing good about
a shutout. There's nothing good about four straight losses. You know,
the Titans are just trying to find their way through
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Well, they got to be consistent.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
They got to find something that's they can consistently hang
their hats on. But that's why, you know, I enjoy
coming in here every Tuesday evening and getting a chance
to be able to talk to the fans and being
able to preview the games that are coming up. I
also enjoyed being able to come in here because three
h L's right before us, so we don't get to
see I get to see Brenton Don and Ron Slade.
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Once the season starts, we don't get to see very
many people that's right up around in here, So I
always look forward to these Tuesday evenings and so we'll
carry we'll carry on.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They made the coordinators available today and I thought John
Fossil had something interesting because someone, I think it was
Tron Davinport ask him about what are give me a
tangible uh that that shows you that what you're doing
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is right and that it could eventually, you know, prove
to be something that is a dividend and productive. And
he talked about just good practice habits. He said, now,
I know, you know, just because you have a good
week of practica practice doesn't mean you're going to win
it game. Just because you have bad practice all week
doesn't mean you're going to have a bad game. But
he said, I'm a firm believer that what you just mentioned,
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consistently having good practice habits throughout the season will make
you a better football team by the time you get
down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, what you're looking for is consistency, and it starts
with the practice. It really starts with the way that
you meet and those types of things too. I mean it,
you know, you're looking for consistency, especially in the seventeen
week season and in the National Football leagueing everything is
is pretty close and it's predicated on being able to
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take advantage of moments and times during ball games. And
to do that, you have to have something that you
can fall back on consistently. And so that's what you're
searching for. That's what this team's searching for right now.
I mean, I've worked with Bones. I know the Bones
is going to and consistency comes from being prepared, you know.
And Bones is very very well prepared, and he understands
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and he gets it as to what it is now
once you at it. Once the game starts, the players
have to perform, but you know, the coaches have to
perform too, So that's all part of it.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I mean, everybody is on the line.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
When the season starts, and that's what you work for,
is some consistency when everything's.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
On the line.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Bones could be a motivational speaker, like he's really he
exudes such positivity.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's it's just amazing the kind of dude he is.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
That's why he lives his life. Yeah, is clearly it's the.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Way I mean he's he's very genuine. He's very genuine.
The players recognize that. If you're around him for a while,
you recognize it. I mean, I really enjoyed the six
years I was on the staff with Bones. I mean,
he was, he is, he is that, he's that way
all the time. I mean, it's it's not an act.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What you see is what you get.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
It's not an act.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Right, Let's go back to the phones. Let's talk to
Ryan and Dixon. Hello, you're on back talk with coach
Dave McGinnis.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Hey, guys, are y'all all right?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
How about you all right right?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Doing well? Doing well? I want to talk about defense
a little bit, Coach Mack. I've followed your stuff for
a long time and I actually called in too Ramon
and Will the other day, and I just want to
get your take on the defense. Ramon had a really
good observation, but I want to talk about DONARDA. Wilson
and they're getting a call in. Looks like a little
late on the defenside of the ball. Cody Barton is
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always moving guys around. And then we saw it on
Sunday where the coverage was blown on that big thirty
three yard twenty five yards or whatever it was, thirty
three yards conversion for them for the Texans. I just
want to talk to you about that, and you know
how long they did. Those guys have to get that
call in and while they always making adjustments at the
last minute. Guys, take care of y'all, have a good night,
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Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Ryan. That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Ryan, Well, you're always going to be making adjustments. Defensively,
there's you know, you can you make the call. And
of course now that you've got the helmet communication system,
I mean, it's the same as the offense. So it's
going to shut off with fifteen seconds on the on
the play clock to go, so I mean it's that's
all the same. But defensively, you've got everything that you do. Defensively,
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you have to reset and readjust to what the offense
is because you don't know for sure what You've got
an idea what they might come out in, but you've
got to be able to readjust because they can reset
and once they once they reset, all of those types
of things. That's why communication on defense is paramount. I mean,
and it's not really it's not really a matter of
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getting the calls in on time. It's a matter of
getting settled as far as to what as to what
they're going to do and be able to to to
adjust on the move. But you're constantly adjusting your your
defense because you know defense, you've got to be reactive
to what they line up in and the personnel groups
that you see, and then you've got to go play.
But the one thing that you that you do know,
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it's so much easier now. You know, when I first
started in this league as a defensive coach, I mean
you had to you had to give hand signals and
it took a long time to get to get the
call and then for the players to communicate back and forth.
Now it's very very simple to do. So there's really
no there's really no reason to be getting your calls
in late now with the electronic communication that you have.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Good question, Let's see if we got another one here.
Rick and Murphysborough. Hello, you're on with coach mack.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Hey, Coach mack Hope, you're having a great night. I'm
sure everybody's blowing up your phone about the Titans. So
my question is listening to Big Jeff's interview after the
game Sunday, he talked about and you mentioned this earlier,
about practice and repetition and consistency, and Big Jeff talked
about they had one of the probably one of the
best weeks of practice they'd had going into this game
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with Houston. That you know, Thursday's game, Thursday's practice was fantastic.
Everybody felt really good. You've been closer to this than anybody.
Why is that not translating on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You got to perform with thanks, Rick, appreciate it us, Rick. Yeah,
thanks for calling in, thanks for listening to look you can.
It's important. Preparation is important. Practice is important. But once
once it starts, then you've got to You've got to
be able to do it at the moment in time.
That's that's always been the way it's being I mean,
and really, you know, good practice gives you a chance,
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guarantees nothing.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
A good preparation gives you a chance.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It guarantees nothing. The only thing that matters is how
you perform on game day, and not only on the
game day in totality, but in each individual instance. Is
depends on how you perform. There's moments in times in
games where you can flip games, but when that time
comes up, you've got to make a play. And that's
that's the key. That there is nothing to do with preparation,
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but it's how you can respond at the moment, and
that's what the When the better teams can be consistently
responding at big moments, that's when you have success. I mean,
I've done it for a lot of years and I
just know that nothing guarantees a great game, but you
give yourself a chance if you get good practices and
you get good preparation, but you have to perform on
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game day.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
That's the ever change.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That will never change, especially at the professional level, because
everybody that you're competing against is has got good ability.
They're trying to win just as hard as you're trying
to win. So you have got to come out on
top with your individual matchups.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
That's what has to happen well, and.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I'll followed up with this. It's been a different story
in each of the first four games. And Sunday you
knew that if the Texans got rolling on some drives
despite score and the score was six nothing with three
I think that drive that ended up being the breakaway
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was three thirty nine left in the third quarter, and
then the score from what he marks, ended up being
about fourteen to fifty five left.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But you look at the time of possession of seventeen
minutes difference, and defense gets absolutely worn out being out
there that much longer while the defense has while the
offense has its issues. And you've heard coach Max say
for four weeks now this is the fifth getting behind
the chains early and often gets you in trouble. And
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that continues to be the case in one of the
main points of emphasis as to why this is what
it is. And so there's a big spot where the
inconsistencies lie. And you know, it's hard for these defenders,
the Titans defenders to play a great fourth quarter when
they're behind the eight ball quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well, when the score, I mean, you just can't let
the score get separated. And the other thing, I mean,
I keep talking about it, and it's raird, its ugly
head now for four weeks is third and double digits
behind the chains. That gives you, you know, there's a
lot of things that cascade to the negative off of that.
And as I said, all the years I've called defenses,
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I used to work as hard as I could to
get him into third and seven plus and then anything
over that I considered a very very big advantage towards
the defense. Well, right now, I mean they've you know,
through four ball games. I think just third and eight plus.
Rhett has done a you know, has done a study
because we do pretty detailed studies after everything that goes on,
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so that we can look at the opponent, we can
also look at what the opponent is looking at when
they're watching the Titans. And right now, third and eight
plus in four weeks, they've had thirty six of them.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
That's way too many.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, and we didn't even I didn't even go to
the third and seven part, which is really the place
where you guys look at it. I'm just looking at
pretty pretty dang long and extremely long.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
In some cases.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And so you're average at about nine instances per game average.
That that's a thing, and it's hard to score points
and it's hard to make things happen when when those
things are the situation.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Well, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It's hard to it's hard to extend drives, that's what
it is.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yes, and you just can't.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You can't get any consistency going when you're when you're
facing that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There's no play in the playbook for third and eleven,
third and thirteen, third and twenty four, those kinds of things.
So it just compounds like you said, we're getting you
ready for Week five of the regular season for the
Tennessee Titans, the first or second, i should say, of
three straight road games. They are on the way to
State Farm Stadium Sunday to take on the Arizona Cardinals.
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We're on the air at two with Farm Bureau Health Plans.
Titans Countdown and Kickoff is at three zero five with
Taylor Arza and coach Mac Dave McGinnis. Coverage begins here
on the Zone at noon with countdown to kickoff and Mac.
We decided that there are two guys that should be
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awarded this week. The first one is Jeffrey Simmons. Five
tackles and a quarterback sack and one of the quickest
quarterback sacks you will see by a big man.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Well, I mean, he's been playing like that all year
and it's it's a shame that it's lost in this
zero and four start. He's playing as good a football
as as he's played in quite a while. And I
mean that's what you need. You need your you need
your your good players to play good. And he's done that.
He's held up his end of the bargain. He just
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needs some more help around him and needs some more
consistency around him. But when you just when you break
it down and start just putting the laser pointer on
him throughout these first four weeks, I mean, it's hard
to ask a whole lot more from him.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And that was one of the very few plays in
that ball game where he was not double or triple
covered and he blew through there. I think next next
gen stats headed at two point nine seconds.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well, I know one thing. It was fast. I mean
it was it was really quick.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And he's, uh, you know, a lot's been made about,
you know, what he did in the off season with
his conditioning, with his body and what he's done. I mean, it's,
as I say, it's a shame that it's lost right
now in this in this oh and four start, because
the guy's playing really good football, and he's playing it
from several different positions.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's linebacker Cedric Gray seventeen tackles in Titan's history in
a single game. There are only three other guys to
have that kind of numbers. Steven Tullock did that, I
think I remember correctly, twenty eleven or twelve. I can't
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even remember the I should have wrote down the opponent,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think sixteen tackles.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Brad Castle at the last game of the year in
two thousand and four season January of two thousand and
five against the Lions, and he had like eighteen tackles.
Michael Griffin eighteen tackles against the Chargers in twenty twelve,
and I think he had sixteen solo.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
But Cedric Gray putting into work.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Well, yeah, and he's you know, he's really people say
he's a second year linebacker, he's really a first year
linebacker because that first season was pretty much lost early
on because of his game, his injury, and and he
was just he's a very instinctive player. I mean, he's
he's a type of player that we, you know, when
we vetted him and watched him coming out of North Carolina.
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He's a he's a quick trigger guy back there. He's
a very sure tackler. They had talked about the poor
tackling the week before they had they addressed that, you know,
defensively and were able to you know, at least shore
up their tackling even though they allowed you know, too
many points, especially there in the fourth quarter. But Cedric
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Gray has done has done a nice job for himself,
and he has improved his game throughout this first month.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
All right, let's get to this week's opponent, the Arizona
Cardinals two and two under third year head coach Jonathan Gannon.
They dropped one last Thursday night at State Farm Stadium
to the Seattle Seahawks twenty three to twenty And I'm
going to start with one of the offensive future stars
in Marvin Harrison Junior. In that game, Mac, you watched
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it like the rest of us did, had five targets
in the first half. One was a catch and I
think it was for eight yards. Two of those targets
ended up being interceptions. He ran in and should have
run out on one and it was just a straight
up pick. Then the other one was tipped off his fingertips.
But the second half was a different story for him.
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I think five catches off another six targets for fifty
eight yards and a score. It's like something flipped a
switch in that which isn't untimely for the Titans because
he's had ups and downs in his rookie year. In
four games now as a second year player, but he's
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a big, big dude that can be a valuable weapon
for Kyler Murray and we'll get to him in a second,
because the off schedule plays that he makes is something special.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, I mean, he's Marvin Harrison Junior is a talent,
and ignore the talent. And again, you know, everybody's not
going to be an instant success in this league, but
you can't, can't, you can't play around with that talent.
I mean, it's he's a guy that's going to be
an issue and they're going to continue to get him
the football. So he's going to be a point of
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interest Sunday coming up down there in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Now, he's not the main cog in this thing. I mean,
obviously Kyler Murray is the epicenter of it. But the
main target is run out of thirteen personnel and that
is the tight end Trey McBride. Trey McBride accounts for
twenty nine and a half percent of the receiver target
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percentage for the team, so nearly thirty percent of it
goes through.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Trey McBride's hands. Yeah, well, man, he catches it most
of the time.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
No, he's a really good player.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
And then they scheme him up and they scheme him open,
and you talked about thirteen personnel, which is is a
personnel set with three tights, one wide, one back. And
what that does it puts a stress on you defensively
because you've got to figure out, depending on down in distance,
how are you going to match it because they're not
just in thirteen personnel to bunch everybody up like goal line.
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I mean they can split that thing out. They can
have thirteen. They can make it look like twelve. They
can make it look like eleven, they can make it
look like twenty one when you're running thirteen personnel a
I've defense to a lot of thirteen personnel teams and
it really taxes you defensively as far as figuring out
the matchups by down in distance. And then when you
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have a tight end that can do things from various positions,
it makes it even more of a problem. Thirty percent
of running through the tight end.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
That's quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And so get ready to see thirteen personnel and the
Titans defense needs to be ready to defend that coming
off of the unscheduled place, not only scheduled, but unscheduled
plays that Kyler Murray is really really dangerous in.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, and to your point, the Titans over the last
handful of years have seen an example or two of
players that a lot of the offense passes through their hands.
For example, we went to Charlotte and played the Carolina Panthers,
and remember how much of that offense went through Christian
McCaffrey's hands when he was there.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah, well, I mean, you get the ballplayer to your
you get the ball to your your your playmakers, and
then then that's what you do.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And McBride. McBride first of all, signed a huge contract.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
You got a huge contract, and he's and he's paid
to produce, and he is producing. But they're they're they're
designing some things to get him the football. But you
have to be able to defend the entire offense, and
especially you have to be able to match up that
personnel group that we've talked about that is a little
bit unusual for the number of times that that they
run it more than anybody in the National Football League.
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So you're gonna that's what they're going to have to
practice this week and then all schedule stuff. The quarterback
just adds another dimension to that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And that thirty of going through Trey McBride's hands, that's
going back to the start of the twenty twenty four season.
That's how big of a thing he has been involved
in the last year and change. And you mentioned the
rest of the Cardinals offense. So James Connor had a
pretty bad ankle injury. I think it's dislocation and broken
and he's out for the year. So Trey Benson's second
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year star from Florida State is the bell cown now.
But the other receivers in this Zay Jones, who's been
working through an injury. Michael Wilson is also there, and
we mentioned Marvin Harrison Junior. But they've got some weapons
in this thing. The two main ones that the Titans
are going to have to guard against their Trade McBride
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and Marvin Harrison. Greg Dortch, who's their primary return guy
kicking punt, also gets into some packages and when they
run multiple receiver looks because he was very active in
that game last Thursday against Seattle.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Right, Well, the guy you're gonna have to defend the quarterback, Yeah,
because the quarterback, I mean, he's he's been the dude
that stirred the drink the whole time since he's been there.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
When he's on that's when they're.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
On that baseball background kind of fuels that too.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Well.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
He can spend.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He was a top ten pick in the draft back
in I think it was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, absolutely, number nine overall by the I think that
was the Oakland Athletics.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
He can spin it from a lot of different angles,
and he's got that quick release, and he's he's very accurate.
But I mean he's once he gets back there, he starts,
he starts June bugging around back there.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's a problem book trying to get a hold of him.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
All right, So let's discuss the Cardinals defense, because they're
not empty chairs, as you would say. It's another challenge
another week for cam Ward. In this offense and the
offensive line. A big part of that front is Kaleis
Campbell and Josh Schwett.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
As a team, they have twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Quick quarterback pressures under two and a half seconds, and
I think twenty two quarterback pressures are between Josh Schwett
and Kaleis Campbell, who is thirty.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Nine years old.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Four tackles for loss, six quarterback hat hits, three quarterback
sacks and fast in fact, sweat and cut Campbell six
quarterback sacks between them.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, well you got one from the inside, one from
the outside. Again, I mean, every week you're going to
see this. I mean, everybody's got one or two. And again,
the Titans have to help themselves. We started off early
on in this show just giving you some numbers on
that third and seven plus stuff that I keep talking about.
You've got to stay out of that. I mean, you
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just have to because it from that. I mean there's
a big, big waterfall against you if you stay in
that too often, and especially a defense like this, because
they run a lot of personnel groups on defense. They'll
run they'll run you know, their base four man rush,
but they'll also run nickel, they'll run dime, They'll do
a lot of different things with their defense.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Split safeties a lot well, and well that's.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You know, that's because you know they're they're head coach.
That's I mean, when he was here, he is a
quality controlled guy.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
When you know when I was here, he was, he
was He's a defensive guy.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
His background, Jonathan's background is on defense, and so they
do a lot of things defensively, and you you've got
to be able to help yourself offensively. First by not
putting yourself in these situations.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
That are not to your advantage.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And Buddha Baker is the guy that is the enforcer
that can come down into the box. I think he
leads the NFL right now and run stuffs and has
about a half dozen run stops coming down in there
to affect what you know, Tony Potard, those guys will
try to do someday.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Well, he's the eighth man in the box, and they
paid him a lot of money too, yeah, you know,
to stay there, and for that reason, I mean he can,
he can, he can roll down into the box and
he's as good a run player as he is, as
he is anything. And so they've got guys at all
three different levels.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
When we come back, we will discuss some of the
games of interest around the league. Five that slate starts
on Thursday night, we'll go through that and also get
coach Max Keys to trying to get in a win
column against the Arizona Cardinals. That happens this Sunday coverage
right here on your flagship home for Titans Radio starts
(27:15):
at noon with countdown to kickoff. We're on the air
at two with Farm Bureau Health plans Titans countdown and
then Taylor and Mac take over with the play by
play action all the snaps with a three to five kick.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So when we come back.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
We will discuss all of the happenings in the schedule
and get Max's keys to the game.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That is all on the way on Matt Talk. Mac.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Let's look around the league and week five of the
regular season schedule, and it starts tomorrow night, actually Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I should say, I don't know what day it is.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
San Francisco is at the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
At so far it's.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Going to be that's the Rams were a good football team.
I don't know quite what San Francisco has, Yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I mean Brock Purdy didn't practice today. There are three
or four main parts, like Juwan Jennings didn't practice day,
and you've talk about in a short week, I don't know,
you know, and I think Mac Jones had some kind
of ding in the prior week.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, the National Football League, once you start getting into
this time of year, you're going to start missing people.
I mean the Titans early on have been missing some
very very important people. And so that's the war of
attrition in the National Football League is something that I
promise you when you're involved in it, you pay a
lot of attention to You may not pay a lot
of attention to it on the outside, but on the inside,
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that's a major concern for every team.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
So speaking of that, Minnesota has stayed overseas. They are
going to play the Cleveland Browns Sunday morning, eight thirty
our time here against the Cleveland Browns at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I think is their vikings.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Fans are anxiously a way to see if JJ mccarr
dorothy is able to practice. But they had offensive line issues.
They lost a tackle to an injury, and then they
lost Ryan Kelly, their center to a concussion. So it'd
be interesting to see if those guys are able to
get up against I mean that Cleveland Browns front. Anytime
you're going against Miles Garrett, that's a problem.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Well, Cleveland's got a really good defense.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yes, yeah, everybody needs to understand.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Well, I know that you know you're concerned.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Your fan base is concerned about your team, So you
think that only things happened to your team as far
as injury wise, it's throughout the league it's throughout the league.
It's it's it's a it's a weekly issue, I promise
you for everybody in the National Football League, and after
the first month, there's nobody really playing completely healthy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Would you say the success rate of injury is it
is all right? As it pertains to the AC South
one of the noon games on CBS one in three
Houston Texans at Baltimore to take on the one and three.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Raven Yeah, the Ravens, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Speaking of injuries, whoa a.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Lot of injuries? And you know, of course you got
a team that was early prognosticators thought that would be
in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean that's why you
just can't you know, you know, being predictive in the
National Football League is really really hard because you just
don't know. I mean, teams you have the same kind
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of uniform on, but if you're injured, it's a different
You got different people in different bodies in those uniforms.
It makes a complete difference. That's what's happening to the
Ravens right now.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And it's I mean, the defensive side of the ball
is so much worse. Mattam bk is on ir with
a neck and I think for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It was initially a report of the four games and
maybe return, but I think that's done there. They lost
Marlin Humphrey in that game last week, a couple of
their defensive backs, a couple of the other defensive backs,
and the big one is Lamar Jackson has a hamstring
and I think I saw a report today he's supposed
to be out maybe two or three games.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
So wow.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, and a hamstring with the guy that with the
way that he plays quarterback, I mean, he's.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Got to be able to have his legs, got to
be able to have his legs.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Miami got off the snide on Monday Night football there
at Carolina to take on the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
That's on Fox at noon.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
The Las Vegas Raiders go to Lucas Oil Stadium to
take on the Indianapolis Colts. And there's one problem potentially
with that. The Raiders left tackle Colton Miller high ankle
sprain and a hairline fracture.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
In that ankle in Sunday's game.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Well, he'll be out a while.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, I mean that's just look, anytime you start talking
about high ankle sprain's, I mean that's a completely different
animal than just a normal ankle sprain. And then with
the fracture, he'll be out a while.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And Ashton genty was just starting to get cranked in
this He had one hundred and thirty eight yards on
the ground and three total touchdowns on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Well, they'll still hand him the ball, Oh.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
They absolutely will it just we'll see what happens at
left tackle, I guess, and I'm interested in that for
obviously two reasons. Division opponent and then that's the Titans
next opponent after Sunday.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
That's that's the fact.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's the fact, he says. Uh, Dallas is at.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
The zero to four New York Jets. Denver Broncos at
the Eagles at noon on Sunday. Yeah, well that should
be a pretty good game.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Well, it should be, and you know, depending on depending
on the health of the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
That's what you're looking at there.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Uh, the Washington Washington Commanders at the Los Angeles Chargers.
That's a three twenty five kick. And that's interesting because
Chargers dropped their first game of the year Sunday and
left tackle Joe Ault apparently has uh what I believe
to be a high ankle Sprain as well.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, and he's he's critical to what they do. I mean,
you know how much we liked and coming during that
during that draft, and he's he's proven to be everything
that we thought he would be and clearly that they
thought he would be.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
So him being out's going to hurt him too.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Sunday Night Football is an NFC East Division battle as
the New England Patriots travel to Hi Mark Stadium to
take on the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Now that'll be interesting, you know because New England's coming
off of a really good game and Buffalo has been
playing pretty solid football, So that'll be a pretty physical
ball game, I would I would predict.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And then on Monday Night, Kansas City goes to M
and T Bank Stadium to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars
on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Jaguars are playing good football right now. I mean they
really are, because they've you know, their their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Is playing is playing good.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
We know that their roster has always been fairly deep,
and they got their quarterback gin in a little bit,
so they've got a.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Chance, which is exactly what they tried to do in
bringing a young and different thinking James Gladstone in as
the general manager. And then that's just what they hoped
that the offense would become under Leon LEONN Coham, who
you know, weirdly was gonna go back and sign a
deal to stay as Tampa's OC and then went back
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and became the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars after
they boosted.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It was the Trent Balki was the GM there.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
That was a pretty convoluted a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
We but Bashial tooton your guy running back to go
with ETN. That's a nice one to two punch there.
Travis Hunter saw him make a fantastic catch over the
middle in traffic from from Trevor Lawrence out at Levi
Stadium against the the Niners Sunday afternoon after our ball game.
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But you're right, they're they're they're playing well.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, they they've got they've got a good roster.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
And they've they're loaded with defense.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I mean, to your point, when you're bad for a
long time, you get high picks, and what do you
get if you pick right and you hit on them,
you get you get some traction.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, and you know their quarterback now has been in
the league long enough and it's been through enough trials
and tribulations that he's kind of truck starting to figure
it out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And you know, they had issues with their offensive line
and trying to figure out who the five were and
all those things, and so they're, uh, they're getting a
little traction through the first quarter of the season. All right,
let's take the last couple of minutes here and talk
to you Mac about what are your keys to a
Titans victory? Because you've said it to me earlier today,
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It's about the Titans, it's not about the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
What are the keys?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Well, first of all, you got to you can't you
can't be putting yourself in situations offensively that are just untenable.
And we talked about that. You get thirty six times
of third and eight plus. You can't be that. You
just can't do that. And then that's you've got to
be able to have success on first and second down,
and you need some you need some consistency to stack series.
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You've got a stack series on offense to give yourself
a chance to get anything going. So that, I mean,
that's key number one. The next thing is is you
got to watch the explosives against a team like this
because you've got a quarterback that's as off schedule as
this quarterback is.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
We're going to play.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You've got a plaster in the back end, and the
explosives are are.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Very very critical.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
We talked about being able to defend the thirteen personnel
and all the iterations of that that you're going to see.
That's going to be huge. And then we talk about sweat.
You talk about Klais Campbell. You can't put yourself in
down a distant situations so that they can just put
their their cleats in the ground and get those sprinter
stances and come after you.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
You just that cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And then the special teams part of it. Greg Dortsch
is a nice returner for them punt and kick. I
mean he's got numbers that are very similar to chim DK.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, well, you're gonna have to cover. I mean when
you're when you're kicking, you're gonna have to cover. And
that's and you know you get back to your your
your kicking part of it. Uh, you're getting a little
slump right now as far as field goes.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
You need to start making them and.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That place gets loud too. You knowed that better than anybody.
By the times you've gone back there to coach. I
wish you could have coached in it, but that's another
story for another time.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
That's about two chapters in my book.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's it. We remind you.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Titans travel to State Farm Stadium Sunday to take on
the Cardinals. UH cover starts at noon. We're on it
too with Titans Countdown three h five Kick with Taylor
Zarzer and coach Mac Dave McGinnis. Thanks for Joseph Bonano
for the excellent work behind the glass and all the
great phone calls tonight. For coach Dave McGinnis, I'm Ret Brian.
We thank you for listening to Mac talk.
It is Tuesday night. We hope your Tuesday has been well. Mac.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's week five in the regular season and the National
Football League and the Titans are about to head to
the house at Mackville State Farm Stadium, Glendale, Arizona to
take on the Arizona Cardinals. We're on the air at
two Central with Farm Bureau Health Plans, Titans countdown and
then kick off at three oh five with yourself and
(00:25):
Taylor a Zarzar Titans and Cardinals, and we know that
you have things you want to discuss with coach Max
six one five, seven, three seven, one four to five.
First up, you knew he'd be here, Eric in Nashville,
Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hey guys, First of all, I just wanted to say, uh,
like I said, my birthday was Friday. I actually went
with my good friend. You guys are on too kend
of the Mailman and his wife by that we went
to gabs Hamburgers to celebrate my birthday today and the
gang there just wanted to give them a shout out
because they wanted to tell you, guys, Heylus got a
lot of Titans talked today about the game this past weekend.
Just thought i'd throw that out there, guys. But Coach Mac,
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my question is actually not concerning that game. Actually you
thought you may get into this, but I wanted to
be the first bring it up. And it was the
Sunday night game, the Green Bay Dallas game where the
game end of the tie, and there's a lot of
people been talking about that and a lot of people
upset about the tie. Here's my feelings on that. I
had no problem with the old overtime rules. I understand
you now want to give both teams a position and
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all this type of stuff. But here's one of the
things I laugh about. It's so hilarious. They shorten overtime
now by course, by five minutes. Used to be fifteen minutes,
it's nine, it's ten because they said, well, we didn't
want players playing too long because we didn't want them
to getting exhausted, getting hurt. But I find it laughable
because of course we're now playing seventeen games and talk
about going to eighteen games, and it's just so frustrating,
(01:44):
and it just wanted to get your thoughts about the
whole overtime rule. Are you kind of old school that
you didn't care You just want the first team score
a win. Do you like to be overtime rules and
just in your feelings in general about time, guys, don't
get off talk to you a getting soon. Tighten up,
y'all take care.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All right, Eric, appreciate you all.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thank you very much. I like these overtime rules. I
like everybody getting a chance at it. And plus, you know,
you can't worry about the there's not going to be
very many overtime games played. I mean, that's the thing
that you look at. I mean, it's an overtime in
the National Football League is really an anomaly, and I
tell you most coaches, most coaches really didn't like when
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you go into overtime. I mean, it's the whole fifteen
minute thing, and especially the way that scoring was.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It was pretty the it.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Was inequitable when everybody didn't get a chance at the football.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I like the way it is. Now. Do you like
ending up in a tie?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well, I mean you've got to look at it and
see what you were doing during the ballgame. Sometimes you
feel fortunate to come out with the tie. But there's
not that many going to be that many overtime games,
so it's really not going to have a big effect
on a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, Usually the overtime will be decisive and somebody will
score when somebody else didn't and it's done. Ties are
a little more rare this this day and age. The
one thing I'm glad of is that we didn't broadcast
a full overtime period and then ended a tie.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I'm okay with that. It's all right if it happens
to somebody else, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And as I said, the way the way the overtimes
are now, I mean they're not it's it's it's not
it's not a huge thing to even worry about.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Really.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, But you're right though.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The way they've got it shaped now, I mean, everybody
gets a chance, and if it's still not up at
the end of the overtime period, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So there we are.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Back to the phones. We go six five seven, three seven,
one four five. David in Lebanon. Hello, you're on with
coach David McGinnis. Are you there, David? All right, David,
(03:54):
I don't know what happened there. Sounds like he was
in a cave.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Either that are underwater, maybe both, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Uh, we will still take your calls and questions throughout
the hour six one, five, seven, three seven, one four
to five, and as we normally do throughout the hour,
we will discuss the next opponent, the Arizona Cardinals kind
of get the tail of the tape and some of
the numbers on them. We'll look at some of the
games around the league in week five and continue to
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take your reaction. Six six, one, five, seven, three seven,
one four five is the number. There's nothing good about
a shutout. There's nothing good about four straight losses. You know,
the Titans are just trying to find their way through
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Well, they got to be consistent.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
They got to find something that's they can consistently hang
their hats on. But that's why, you know, I enjoy
coming in here every Tuesday evening and getting a chance
to be able to talk to the fans and being
able to preview the games that are coming up. I
also enjoyed being able to come in here because three
h L's right before us, so we don't get to
see I get to see Brenton Don and Ron Slade.
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Once the season starts, we don't get to see very
many people that's right up around in here, So I
always look forward to these Tuesday evenings and so we'll
carry we'll carry on.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They made the coordinators available today and I thought John
Fossil had something interesting because someone, I think it was
Tron Davinport ask him about what are give me a
tangible uh that that shows you that what you're doing
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is right and that it could eventually, you know, prove
to be something that is a dividend and productive. And
he talked about just good practice habits. He said, now,
I know, you know, just because you have a good
week of practica practice doesn't mean you're going to win
it game. Just because you have bad practice all week
doesn't mean you're going to have a bad game. But
he said, I'm a firm believer that what you just mentioned,
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consistently having good practice habits throughout the season will make
you a better football team by the time you get
down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, what you're looking for is consistency, and it starts
with the practice. It really starts with the way that
you meet and those types of things too. I mean it,
you know, you're looking for consistency, especially in the seventeen
week season and in the National Football leagueing everything is
is pretty close and it's predicated on being able to
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take advantage of moments and times during ball games. And
to do that, you have to have something that you
can fall back on consistently. And so that's what you're
searching for. That's what this team's searching for right now.
I mean, I've worked with Bones. I know the Bones
is going to and consistency comes from being prepared, you know.
And Bones is very very well prepared, and he understands
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and he gets it as to what it is now
once you at it. Once the game starts, the players
have to perform, but you know, the coaches have to
perform too, So that's all part of it.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I mean, everybody is on the line.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
When the season starts, and that's what you work for,
is some consistency when everything's.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
On the line.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Bones could be a motivational speaker, like he's really he
exudes such positivity.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's it's just amazing the kind of dude he is.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
That's why he lives his life. Yeah, is clearly it's the.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Way I mean he's he's very genuine. He's very genuine.
The players recognize that. If you're around him for a while,
you recognize it. I mean, I really enjoyed the six
years I was on the staff with Bones. I mean,
he was, he is, he is that, he's that way
all the time. I mean, it's it's not an act.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What you see is what you get.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
It's not an act.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Right, Let's go back to the phones. Let's talk to
Ryan and Dixon. Hello, you're on back talk with coach
Dave McGinnis.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Hey, guys, are y'all all right?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
How about you all right right?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Doing well? Doing well? I want to talk about defense
a little bit, Coach Mack. I've followed your stuff for
a long time and I actually called in too Ramon
and Will the other day, and I just want to
get your take on the defense. Ramon had a really
good observation, but I want to talk about DONARDA. Wilson
and they're getting a call in. Looks like a little
late on the defenside of the ball. Cody Barton is
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always moving guys around. And then we saw it on
Sunday where the coverage was blown on that big thirty
three yard twenty five yards or whatever it was, thirty
three yards conversion for them for the Texans. I just
want to talk to you about that, and you know
how long they did. Those guys have to get that
call in and while they always making adjustments at the
last minute. Guys, take care of y'all, have a good night,
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Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Ryan. That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Ryan, Well, you're always going to be making adjustments. Defensively,
there's you know, you can you make the call. And
of course now that you've got the helmet communication system,
I mean, it's the same as the offense. So it's
going to shut off with fifteen seconds on the on
the play clock to go, so I mean it's that's
all the same. But defensively, you've got everything that you do. Defensively,
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you have to reset and readjust to what the offense
is because you don't know for sure what You've got
an idea what they might come out in, but you've
got to be able to readjust because they can reset
and once they once they reset, all of those types
of things. That's why communication on defense is paramount. I mean,
and it's not really it's not really a matter of
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getting the calls in on time. It's a matter of
getting settled as far as to what as to what
they're going to do and be able to to to
adjust on the move. But you're constantly adjusting your your
defense because you know defense, you've got to be reactive
to what they line up in and the personnel groups
that you see, and then you've got to go play.
But the one thing that you that you do know,
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it's so much easier now. You know, when I first
started in this league as a defensive coach, I mean
you had to you had to give hand signals and
it took a long time to get to get the
call and then for the players to communicate back and forth.
Now it's very very simple to do. So there's really
no there's really no reason to be getting your calls
in late now with the electronic communication that you have.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Good question, Let's see if we got another one here.
Rick and Murphysborough. Hello, you're on with coach mack.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Hey, Coach mack Hope, you're having a great night. I'm
sure everybody's blowing up your phone about the Titans. So
my question is listening to Big Jeff's interview after the
game Sunday, he talked about and you mentioned this earlier,
about practice and repetition and consistency, and Big Jeff talked
about they had one of the probably one of the
best weeks of practice they'd had going into this game
(10:35):
with Houston. That you know, Thursday's game, Thursday's practice was fantastic.
Everybody felt really good. You've been closer to this than anybody.
Why is that not translating on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You got to perform with thanks, Rick, appreciate it us, Rick. Yeah,
thanks for calling in, thanks for listening to look you can.
It's important. Preparation is important. Practice is important. But once
once it starts, then you've got to You've got to
be able to do it at the moment in time.
That's that's always been the way it's being I mean,
and really, you know, good practice gives you a chance,
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guarantees nothing.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
A good preparation gives you a chance.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It guarantees nothing. The only thing that matters is how
you perform on game day, and not only on the
game day in totality, but in each individual instance. Is
depends on how you perform. There's moments in times in
games where you can flip games, but when that time
comes up, you've got to make a play. And that's
that's the key. That there is nothing to do with preparation,
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but it's how you can respond at the moment, and
that's what the When the better teams can be consistently
responding at big moments, that's when you have success. I mean,
I've done it for a lot of years and I
just know that nothing guarantees a great game, but you
give yourself a chance if you get good practices and
you get good preparation, but you have to perform on
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game day.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
That's the ever change.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That will never change, especially at the professional level, because
everybody that you're competing against is has got good ability.
They're trying to win just as hard as you're trying
to win. So you have got to come out on
top with your individual matchups.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
That's what has to happen well, and.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I'll followed up with this. It's been a different story
in each of the first four games. And Sunday you
knew that if the Texans got rolling on some drives
despite score and the score was six nothing with three
I think that drive that ended up being the breakaway
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was three thirty nine left in the third quarter, and
then the score from what he marks, ended up being
about fourteen to fifty five left.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But you look at the time of possession of seventeen
minutes difference, and defense gets absolutely worn out being out
there that much longer while the defense has while the
offense has its issues. And you've heard coach Max say
for four weeks now this is the fifth getting behind
the chains early and often gets you in trouble. And
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that continues to be the case in one of the
main points of emphasis as to why this is what
it is. And so there's a big spot where the
inconsistencies lie. And you know, it's hard for these defenders,
the Titans defenders to play a great fourth quarter when
they're behind the eight ball quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well, when the score, I mean, you just can't let
the score get separated. And the other thing, I mean,
I keep talking about it, and it's raird, its ugly
head now for four weeks is third and double digits
behind the chains. That gives you, you know, there's a
lot of things that cascade to the negative off of that.
And as I said, all the years I've called defenses,
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I used to work as hard as I could to
get him into third and seven plus and then anything
over that I considered a very very big advantage towards
the defense. Well, right now, I mean they've you know,
through four ball games. I think just third and eight plus.
Rhett has done a you know, has done a study
because we do pretty detailed studies after everything that goes on,
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so that we can look at the opponent, we can
also look at what the opponent is looking at when
they're watching the Titans. And right now, third and eight
plus in four weeks, they've had thirty six of them.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
That's way too many.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, and we didn't even I didn't even go to
the third and seven part, which is really the place
where you guys look at it. I'm just looking at
pretty pretty dang long and extremely long.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
In some cases.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And so you're average at about nine instances per game average.
That that's a thing, and it's hard to score points
and it's hard to make things happen when when those
things are the situation.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Well, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It's hard to it's hard to extend drives, that's what
it is.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yes, and you just can't.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You can't get any consistency going when you're when you're
facing that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There's no play in the playbook for third and eleven,
third and thirteen, third and twenty four, those kinds of things.
So it just compounds like you said, we're getting you
ready for Week five of the regular season for the
Tennessee Titans, the first or second, i should say, of
three straight road games. They are on the way to
State Farm Stadium Sunday to take on the Arizona Cardinals.
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We're on the air at two with Farm Bureau Health Plans.
Titans Countdown and Kickoff is at three zero five with
Taylor Arza and coach Mac Dave McGinnis. Coverage begins here
on the Zone at noon with countdown to kickoff and Mac.
We decided that there are two guys that should be
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awarded this week. The first one is Jeffrey Simmons. Five
tackles and a quarterback sack and one of the quickest
quarterback sacks you will see by a big man.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Well, I mean, he's been playing like that all year
and it's it's a shame that it's lost in this
zero and four start. He's playing as good a football
as as he's played in quite a while. And I
mean that's what you need. You need your you need
your your good players to play good. And he's done that.
He's held up his end of the bargain. He just
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needs some more help around him and needs some more
consistency around him. But when you just when you break
it down and start just putting the laser pointer on
him throughout these first four weeks, I mean, it's hard
to ask a whole lot more from him.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And that was one of the very few plays in
that ball game where he was not double or triple
covered and he blew through there. I think next next
gen stats headed at two point nine seconds.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well, I know one thing. It was fast. I mean
it was it was really quick.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And he's, uh, you know, a lot's been made about,
you know, what he did in the off season with
his conditioning, with his body and what he's done. I mean, it's,
as I say, it's a shame that it's lost right
now in this in this oh and four start, because
the guy's playing really good football, and he's playing it
from several different positions.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's linebacker Cedric Gray seventeen tackles in Titan's history in
a single game. There are only three other guys to
have that kind of numbers. Steven Tullock did that, I
think I remember correctly, twenty eleven or twelve. I can't
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even remember the I should have wrote down the opponent,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think sixteen tackles.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Brad Castle at the last game of the year in
two thousand and four season January of two thousand and
five against the Lions, and he had like eighteen tackles.
Michael Griffin eighteen tackles against the Chargers in twenty twelve,
and I think he had sixteen solo.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
But Cedric Gray putting into work.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Well, yeah, and he's you know, he's really people say
he's a second year linebacker, he's really a first year
linebacker because that first season was pretty much lost early
on because of his game, his injury, and and he
was just he's a very instinctive player. I mean, he's
he's a type of player that we, you know, when
we vetted him and watched him coming out of North Carolina.
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He's a he's a quick trigger guy back there. He's
a very sure tackler. They had talked about the poor
tackling the week before they had they addressed that, you know,
defensively and were able to you know, at least shore
up their tackling even though they allowed you know, too
many points, especially there in the fourth quarter. But Cedric
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Gray has done has done a nice job for himself,
and he has improved his game throughout this first month.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
All right, let's get to this week's opponent, the Arizona
Cardinals two and two under third year head coach Jonathan Gannon.
They dropped one last Thursday night at State Farm Stadium
to the Seattle Seahawks twenty three to twenty And I'm
going to start with one of the offensive future stars
in Marvin Harrison Junior. In that game, Mac, you watched
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it like the rest of us did, had five targets
in the first half. One was a catch and I
think it was for eight yards. Two of those targets
ended up being interceptions. He ran in and should have
run out on one and it was just a straight
up pick. Then the other one was tipped off his fingertips.
But the second half was a different story for him.
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I think five catches off another six targets for fifty
eight yards and a score. It's like something flipped a
switch in that which isn't untimely for the Titans because
he's had ups and downs in his rookie year. In
four games now as a second year player, but he's
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a big, big dude that can be a valuable weapon
for Kyler Murray and we'll get to him in a second,
because the off schedule plays that he makes is something special.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, I mean, he's Marvin Harrison Junior is a talent,
and ignore the talent. And again, you know, everybody's not
going to be an instant success in this league, but
you can't, can't, you can't play around with that talent.
I mean, it's he's a guy that's going to be
an issue and they're going to continue to get him
the football. So he's going to be a point of
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interest Sunday coming up down there in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Now, he's not the main cog in this thing. I mean,
obviously Kyler Murray is the epicenter of it. But the
main target is run out of thirteen personnel and that
is the tight end Trey McBride. Trey McBride accounts for
twenty nine and a half percent of the receiver target
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percentage for the team, so nearly thirty percent of it
goes through.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Trey McBride's hands. Yeah, well, man, he catches it most
of the time.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
No, he's a really good player.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
And then they scheme him up and they scheme him open,
and you talked about thirteen personnel, which is is a
personnel set with three tights, one wide, one back. And
what that does it puts a stress on you defensively
because you've got to figure out, depending on down in distance,
how are you going to match it because they're not
just in thirteen personnel to bunch everybody up like goal line.
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I mean they can split that thing out. They can
have thirteen. They can make it look like twelve. They
can make it look like eleven, they can make it
look like twenty one when you're running thirteen personnel a
I've defense to a lot of thirteen personnel teams and
it really taxes you defensively as far as figuring out
the matchups by down in distance. And then when you
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have a tight end that can do things from various positions,
it makes it even more of a problem. Thirty percent
of running through the tight end.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
That's quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And so get ready to see thirteen personnel and the
Titans defense needs to be ready to defend that coming
off of the unscheduled place, not only scheduled, but unscheduled
plays that Kyler Murray is really really dangerous in.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, and to your point, the Titans over the last
handful of years have seen an example or two of
players that a lot of the offense passes through their hands.
For example, we went to Charlotte and played the Carolina Panthers,
and remember how much of that offense went through Christian
McCaffrey's hands when he was there.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah, well, I mean, you get the ballplayer to your
you get the ball to your your your playmakers, and
then then that's what you do.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And McBride. McBride first of all, signed a huge contract.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
You got a huge contract, and he's and he's paid
to produce, and he is producing. But they're they're they're
designing some things to get him the football. But you
have to be able to defend the entire offense, and
especially you have to be able to match up that
personnel group that we've talked about that is a little
bit unusual for the number of times that that they
run it more than anybody in the National Football League.
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So you're gonna that's what they're going to have to
practice this week and then all schedule stuff. The quarterback
just adds another dimension to that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And that thirty of going through Trey McBride's hands, that's
going back to the start of the twenty twenty four season.
That's how big of a thing he has been involved
in the last year and change. And you mentioned the
rest of the Cardinals offense. So James Connor had a
pretty bad ankle injury. I think it's dislocation and broken
and he's out for the year. So Trey Benson's second
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year star from Florida State is the bell cown now.
But the other receivers in this Zay Jones, who's been
working through an injury. Michael Wilson is also there, and
we mentioned Marvin Harrison Junior. But they've got some weapons
in this thing. The two main ones that the Titans
are going to have to guard against their Trade McBride
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and Marvin Harrison. Greg Dortch, who's their primary return guy
kicking punt, also gets into some packages and when they
run multiple receiver looks because he was very active in
that game last Thursday against Seattle.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Right, Well, the guy you're gonna have to defend the quarterback, Yeah,
because the quarterback, I mean, he's he's been the dude
that stirred the drink the whole time since he's been there.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
When he's on that's when they're.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
On that baseball background kind of fuels that too.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Well.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
He can spend.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He was a top ten pick in the draft back
in I think it was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, absolutely, number nine overall by the I think that
was the Oakland Athletics.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
He can spin it from a lot of different angles,
and he's got that quick release, and he's he's very accurate.
But I mean he's once he gets back there, he starts,
he starts June bugging around back there.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's a problem book trying to get a hold of him.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
All right, So let's discuss the Cardinals defense, because they're
not empty chairs, as you would say. It's another challenge
another week for cam Ward. In this offense and the
offensive line. A big part of that front is Kaleis
Campbell and Josh Schwett.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
As a team, they have twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Quick quarterback pressures under two and a half seconds, and
I think twenty two quarterback pressures are between Josh Schwett
and Kaleis Campbell, who is thirty.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Nine years old.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Four tackles for loss, six quarterback hat hits, three quarterback
sacks and fast in fact, sweat and cut Campbell six
quarterback sacks between them.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, well you got one from the inside, one from
the outside. Again, I mean, every week you're going to
see this. I mean, everybody's got one or two. And again,
the Titans have to help themselves. We started off early
on in this show just giving you some numbers on
that third and seven plus stuff that I keep talking about.
You've got to stay out of that. I mean, you
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just have to because it from that. I mean there's
a big, big waterfall against you if you stay in
that too often, and especially a defense like this, because
they run a lot of personnel groups on defense. They'll
run they'll run you know, their base four man rush,
but they'll also run nickel, they'll run dime, They'll do
a lot of different things with their defense.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Split safeties a lot well, and well that's.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You know, that's because you know they're they're head coach.
That's I mean, when he was here, he is a
quality controlled guy.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
When you know when I was here, he was, he
was He's a defensive guy.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
His background, Jonathan's background is on defense, and so they
do a lot of things defensively, and you you've got
to be able to help yourself offensively. First by not
putting yourself in these situations.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
That are not to your advantage.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And Buddha Baker is the guy that is the enforcer
that can come down into the box. I think he
leads the NFL right now and run stuffs and has
about a half dozen run stops coming down in there
to affect what you know, Tony Potard, those guys will
try to do someday.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Well, he's the eighth man in the box, and they
paid him a lot of money too, yeah, you know,
to stay there, and for that reason, I mean he can,
he can, he can roll down into the box and
he's as good a run player as he is, as
he is anything. And so they've got guys at all
three different levels.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
When we come back, we will discuss some of the
games of interest around the league. Five that slate starts
on Thursday night, we'll go through that and also get
coach Max Keys to trying to get in a win
column against the Arizona Cardinals. That happens this Sunday coverage
right here on your flagship home for Titans Radio starts
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at noon with countdown to kickoff. We're on the air
at two with Farm Bureau Health plans Titans countdown and
then Taylor and Mac take over with the play by
play action all the snaps with a three to five kick.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So when we come back.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
We will discuss all of the happenings in the schedule
and get Max's keys to the game.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That is all on the way on Matt Talk. Mac.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Let's look around the league and week five of the
regular season schedule, and it starts tomorrow night, actually Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I should say, I don't know what day it is.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
San Francisco is at the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
At so far it's.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Going to be that's the Rams were a good football team.
I don't know quite what San Francisco has, Yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I mean Brock Purdy didn't practice today. There are three
or four main parts, like Juwan Jennings didn't practice day,
and you've talk about in a short week, I don't know,
you know, and I think Mac Jones had some kind
of ding in the prior week.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, the National Football League, once you start getting into
this time of year, you're going to start missing people.
I mean the Titans early on have been missing some
very very important people. And so that's the war of
attrition in the National Football League is something that I
promise you when you're involved in it, you pay a
lot of attention to You may not pay a lot
of attention to it on the outside, but on the inside,
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that's a major concern for every team.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
So speaking of that, Minnesota has stayed overseas. They are
going to play the Cleveland Browns Sunday morning, eight thirty
our time here against the Cleveland Browns at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I think is their vikings.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Fans are anxiously a way to see if JJ mccarr
dorothy is able to practice. But they had offensive line issues.
They lost a tackle to an injury, and then they
lost Ryan Kelly, their center to a concussion. So it'd
be interesting to see if those guys are able to
get up against I mean that Cleveland Browns front. Anytime
you're going against Miles Garrett, that's a problem.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Well, Cleveland's got a really good defense.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yes, yeah, everybody needs to understand.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Well, I know that you know you're concerned.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Your fan base is concerned about your team, So you
think that only things happened to your team as far
as injury wise, it's throughout the league it's throughout the league.
It's it's it's a it's a weekly issue, I promise
you for everybody in the National Football League, and after
the first month, there's nobody really playing completely healthy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Would you say the success rate of injury is it
is all right? As it pertains to the AC South
one of the noon games on CBS one in three
Houston Texans at Baltimore to take on the one and three.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Raven Yeah, the Ravens, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Speaking of injuries, whoa a.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Lot of injuries? And you know, of course you got
a team that was early prognosticators thought that would be
in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean that's why you
just can't you know, you know, being predictive in the
National Football League is really really hard because you just
don't know. I mean, teams you have the same kind
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of uniform on, but if you're injured, it's a different
You got different people in different bodies in those uniforms.
It makes a complete difference. That's what's happening to the
Ravens right now.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And it's I mean, the defensive side of the ball
is so much worse. Mattam bk is on ir with
a neck and I think for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It was initially a report of the four games and
maybe return, but I think that's done there. They lost
Marlin Humphrey in that game last week, a couple of
their defensive backs, a couple of the other defensive backs,
and the big one is Lamar Jackson has a hamstring
and I think I saw a report today he's supposed
to be out maybe two or three games.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
So wow.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, and a hamstring with the guy that with the
way that he plays quarterback, I mean, he's.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Got to be able to have his legs, got to
be able to have his legs.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Miami got off the snide on Monday Night football there
at Carolina to take on the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
That's on Fox at noon.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
The Las Vegas Raiders go to Lucas Oil Stadium to
take on the Indianapolis Colts. And there's one problem potentially
with that. The Raiders left tackle Colton Miller high ankle
sprain and a hairline fracture.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
In that ankle in Sunday's game.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Well, he'll be out a while.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, I mean that's just look, anytime you start talking
about high ankle sprain's, I mean that's a completely different
animal than just a normal ankle sprain. And then with
the fracture, he'll be out a while.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And Ashton genty was just starting to get cranked in
this He had one hundred and thirty eight yards on
the ground and three total touchdowns on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Well, they'll still hand him the ball, Oh.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
They absolutely will it just we'll see what happens at
left tackle, I guess, and I'm interested in that for
obviously two reasons. Division opponent and then that's the Titans
next opponent after Sunday.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
That's that's the fact.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's the fact, he says. Uh, Dallas is at.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
The zero to four New York Jets. Denver Broncos at
the Eagles at noon on Sunday. Yeah, well that should
be a pretty good game.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Well, it should be, and you know, depending on depending
on the health of the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
That's what you're looking at there.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Uh, the Washington Washington Commanders at the Los Angeles Chargers.
That's a three twenty five kick. And that's interesting because
Chargers dropped their first game of the year Sunday and
left tackle Joe Ault apparently has uh what I believe
to be a high ankle Sprain as well.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, and he's he's critical to what they do. I mean,
you know how much we liked and coming during that
during that draft, and he's he's proven to be everything
that we thought he would be and clearly that they
thought he would be.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
So him being out's going to hurt him too.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Sunday Night Football is an NFC East Division battle as
the New England Patriots travel to Hi Mark Stadium to
take on the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Now that'll be interesting, you know because New England's coming
off of a really good game and Buffalo has been
playing pretty solid football, So that'll be a pretty physical
ball game, I would I would predict.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And then on Monday Night, Kansas City goes to M
and T Bank Stadium to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars
on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Jaguars are playing good football right now. I mean they
really are, because they've you know, their their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Is playing is playing good.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
We know that their roster has always been fairly deep,
and they got their quarterback gin in a little bit,
so they've got a.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Chance, which is exactly what they tried to do in
bringing a young and different thinking James Gladstone in as
the general manager. And then that's just what they hoped
that the offense would become under Leon LEONN Coham, who
you know, weirdly was gonna go back and sign a
deal to stay as Tampa's OC and then went back
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and became the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars after
they boosted.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It was the Trent Balki was the GM there.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
That was a pretty convoluted a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
We but Bashial tooton your guy running back to go
with ETN. That's a nice one to two punch there.
Travis Hunter saw him make a fantastic catch over the
middle in traffic from from Trevor Lawrence out at Levi
Stadium against the the Niners Sunday afternoon after our ball game.
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But you're right, they're they're they're playing well.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, they they've got they've got a good roster.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
And they've they're loaded with defense.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I mean, to your point, when you're bad for a
long time, you get high picks, and what do you
get if you pick right and you hit on them,
you get you get some traction.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, and you know their quarterback now has been in
the league long enough and it's been through enough trials
and tribulations that he's kind of truck starting to figure
it out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And you know, they had issues with their offensive line
and trying to figure out who the five were and
all those things, and so they're, uh, they're getting a
little traction through the first quarter of the season. All right,
let's take the last couple of minutes here and talk
to you Mac about what are your keys to a
Titans victory? Because you've said it to me earlier today,
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It's about the Titans, it's not about the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
What are the keys?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Well, first of all, you got to you can't you
can't be putting yourself in situations offensively that are just untenable.
And we talked about that. You get thirty six times
of third and eight plus. You can't be that. You
just can't do that. And then that's you've got to
be able to have success on first and second down,
and you need some you need some consistency to stack series.
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You've got a stack series on offense to give yourself
a chance to get anything going. So that, I mean,
that's key number one. The next thing is is you
got to watch the explosives against a team like this
because you've got a quarterback that's as off schedule as
this quarterback is.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
We're going to play.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You've got a plaster in the back end, and the
explosives are are.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Very very critical.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
We talked about being able to defend the thirteen personnel
and all the iterations of that that you're going to see.
That's going to be huge. And then we talk about sweat.
You talk about Klais Campbell. You can't put yourself in
down a distant situations so that they can just put
their their cleats in the ground and get those sprinter
stances and come after you.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
You just that cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And then the special teams part of it. Greg Dortsch
is a nice returner for them punt and kick. I
mean he's got numbers that are very similar to chim DK.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, well, you're gonna have to cover. I mean when
you're when you're kicking, you're gonna have to cover. And
that's and you know you get back to your your
your kicking part of it. Uh, you're getting a little
slump right now as far as field goes.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
You need to start making them and.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That place gets loud too. You knowed that better than anybody.
By the times you've gone back there to coach. I
wish you could have coached in it, but that's another
story for another time.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
That's about two chapters in my book.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's it. We remind you.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Titans travel to State Farm Stadium Sunday to take on
the Cardinals. UH cover starts at noon. We're on it
too with Titans Countdown three h five Kick with Taylor
Zarzer and coach Mac Dave McGinnis. Thanks for Joseph Bonano
for the excellent work behind the glass and all the
great phone calls tonight. For coach Dave McGinnis, I'm Ret Brian.
We thank you for listening to Mac talk.
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