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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Week six of the twenty twenty five regular season.
The Titan's about to head out on their third and
final of the three straight road games, another one out
west to Allegiance Stadium to battle the Las Vegas Raiders
on Sunday. Farm Bureau Health Plans Titans countdown.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Is it two? Central three to ZHO five? Central is
the Kick.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
With Taylor Zarzar and the man of the hour, Coach
mac Dave McGinnis. We will take your phone calls and
questions and we're gonna have some reaction to the big
win in Arizona. One of the craziest games you'll ever hear.
In fact, uh, it ended and sounded like this. Joseph
Bonano hit it. Here we go, There we go. Cox
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snaps it back, Sly lets it flye pay Nashville.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That sounds like a winner.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
The Tennessee Titans twenty two, the Arizona Cardinals twenty one.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, it was so good.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It was so good, And we have people that want
to talk to coach mac already, let's go to David
and Lebanon. You're on with coach mac Dave McGinnis.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
What's up.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
To the Man of Knowledge. How you doing tonight.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Brother, it's good David Ret and I just survived a wild,
wild game out there in the desert in Arizona, and
I know had a lot of fans back here. They
had a big watch party back here watching it. I
know you watched it. I mean it was those last
eight to nine minutes of the ballgame were something, Coach Mac.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I tell you what, I'm fifty eight years old, but
I was doing some dance and I was never so proud.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
And I was so.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Happy for you because you know we've been saying all week,
that's the house that coach Mac bill. Well, I've got
news for you. It is a blessing to have you
on our side and to call these games, and we
appreciate you so much.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, that's very kind of you.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I was, you know, they had a little thing for
me out there on Saturday night with a bunch of people.
I made a lot of good friends, you know, all
all the years that I was out there in the
valley in Maricopa County and really Arizona from Flagstaff all
the way down through all the way down through most
of the state, and they were always very good to
me out there. But that was I saw a lot
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of people at the ball game before the game in
the press box, but then after the game you have
to walk around the field to get to the buses.
I mean you had to walk, you know, the clearless
circumference of the inside of the bowl there, and the
fans were just they were just outstanding to me, you know, leaving.
I mean, it was it was, I was. I was happy.
I was happy for everybody involved with the Titans. That's
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who I was happy for. And I could just I could,
I could. The fans that were out there were absolutely
loving it. I know the fans listening to the radio
and watching on television were loving it. That's what made
me happy because really that's the only reward in this
thing for all of us that are involved David is
being able to win a ball game, and that's something
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that we all could collectively feel good about together. So
it was a it was a great, great afternoon and
evening out there in the desert.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I promise you, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Sir, and I appreciate you. I appreciate all the players
were amazing and you know, winning heels a lot of sores,
and I know a lot of people are feeling better today.
Don't mean we're gonna win the next twelve games. But hey,
one at a time, one at a time.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Well, you're absolutely right, and you know, there's nothing ever
given in this league.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
This is a hard, hard league.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
But the reward, as I said, the feeling that we
all had with that as soon as that happened, and
then it you know, but the work still has to
be done during the week. But that feeling that all
of us in the press box, we were celebrating with
all of you guys back here and everywhere you know,
across the country and on the radio that we're listening
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to that game because it was that was truly something
I've been involved in nearly seven hundred NFL games in
my career. That was one of the wildest ones I've
ever been involved in.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, Coach Mack, you have a blast night, and it
was wonderful to shut the Grand Canyon down. We made that, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
David, Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
David.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
All right, let's go to the phones now to Eric
and Nashville. Who wants to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What's up? Eric?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Hey, guys, first of all, before I get to the game,
just just keep me in your thoughts and prayers. I
don't know if I've been calling in Next Tuesday, I've
got a doc's appointment, and I told you a while back,
I'm gonna have to have surgers sometime next year. So
I've got to get to go with them and decide,
you know, find out if they're going to set up
performance to have MRI and X ray. So I'm a
little bit nervous about that. But just keep me in
your thoughts in prayers.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
We'll do that.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Eric, I'll be thinking about you, thinking about you a lot,
and wishing nothing but the best.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
With those dy I appreciate it. I appreciate it, guys.
I have to be honest. I left with about a
minute twenty eight left to go in the said quarter
when we were up, I mean we were trailing twenty
one to six because I went to an event in
my church because a part of me I'm not gonna lie.
I didn't want to see the rest of it. And
I went to church with some friends. Bobby Luis reed
shout out to them and I said, I was coming
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back home. I was talking to Bobby and he said, Eric,
do you want to find out what the score is?
And I kind of half at I said, here, let's
find out what the score is, because I was afraid
we had got to blow it out. And they both
were telling me the game just in it and we won.
I said, what, you've got to be kidding me. I
don't believe it. I was half a mile from my house,
and when I got home, I listened to you guys,
and you're tracking on the radio, and I said, man,
but here's the thing, guys, A couple of things. First
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of all, I won't say I'm glad we're not on
five like the Jets. I'm glad we're not the last
NFL team to win a game. But also I heard
some Titans fans complaining about the fact the way we won,
said we were lucky and that you know, what if
the guy hadn't fullled the ball. But here's my retort
to that, Well, what if it had been the other
way around? What if Tony paul Is had brand seventy
two yards he d the ball for crossing the gold line,
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but it was the Jerry Sneath intercept to the pass
for College Bird. He fumbles the ball and then Michael
Marvin Harrison Junior recovers about end zone and then the
Cardinals went on last second field goal. I'd rather win
the way we won than lose the way the Arizona loss.
So think about that, guy. And also, guys, remember Arizona
was the first team in NFL history to lose three
straight games on the final of the play of the game.
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They may have a better record, but I certainly read
rather than be us than the Arizona Cardinals and what
they're going through. Guys. Hopefully.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, before you before you hop off, two things.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
One, please tell me you went home and you put
on your pawn show that you wear on game days
to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Please tell me you did that. Um.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Fortunately I did not do that. Come on, man, I
just got out of the cleaners a few days ago
because I put it in while they were on the road.
So I can get a clean though, So I get
ready for the next home game and get the Patriots guys.
But I'll tell you what, I'm just so excited that
we won. Hopefully we'll be able to get a win
against the Raiders this Sunday, guys, type no, take care
and we'll talk toga soon, all.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right, Eric, Thanks Eric, great call. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The other thing I was going to tell Eric is
for the people who said, ah, they got a you know,
a win given to him. The Titans still had to
take it. They made the place to take it, and
they did. That's why it still matters.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
But it always matters. There's nothing that's The football League's
a bottom line business. Either win or you lose, and
the winning part of it is so much better than
the other one.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Absolutely, absolutely, your thoughts of that last eight minutes forty
five seconds you've already said we figured it up on
the plane. You've been a part about what seven hundred
and sixty ball games as either a coach or a broadcaster. Yeah,
never seen one end like that. What were your takeaways?
It was eight minutes and forty five seconds in the
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timeline play by play from where the Titans started climbing
back into it.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Well, I mean the first, you know, as a lifetime coach,
the first lesson that you take out of that and
that you that you portray moving forward is you never quit.
You don't ever give up on it because you just
you've got to keep playing until the end. And in
the National Football League, regardless of the score, most of
these things come down to the end of the ball game.
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I mean, it really, it really does. I mean because
everybody has got talented players, and a lot of times,
just on any given Sunday, Monday, Thursday, whenever you're playing,
there's no ton in what can happen during the course
of the all the time that you're playing. But you
don't ever quit, you don't ever stop trying. If you're behind,
you don't ever stop trying to get ahead, and if
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you're ahead, you don't ever stop and start the coast.
I mean, it just it can't happen in the National
Football League. But that to me, as I say, I've
been in a lot a lot of football games, you know,
in my forty year career in the National Football League,
that was the most unusual.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Sequence and series.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Of events I think, you know in a row that
I've been involved with.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And that's coming from you who was a member of
this coaching staff. In two thousand and six, in December
of that year, vwi's rookie year down twenty one to
nothing against the New York Giants at Nissan Stadium.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh yeah, well that that one, I mean, give that
proper perspective that one.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I mean, that one was nuts.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I mean, the same thing, you know where when Vy
took us ninety nine yards, you.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Know, against the Arizona the Arizona.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Cardinals, I mean, and I've been in a lot of others,
you know, throughout my coaching career on both ends of them,
but that that series of events up.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
There in Glendale, Arizona was just wild. It really was wild.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And not only the things that were happening, and as
you said it very well, Raad, not only things that happened,
that that good fortune put the ball in your hands,
or put the game and a chance to be in
your hands at the end, But you have to make
the plays.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You have to close the deal.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
They still had to.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
They still drive eighty yards, They still had to, you know,
had to have a tremendous two minute drive at the
end with some unbelievable throws and catches. You had to
play defense and really shut him out, you know, after
giving up twenty one points early in the ballgame, shut
him completely out for the rest of the ball game
so that you had a chance to catch up if
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something were going to happen as to where you were
fortunate enough to get the ball back with possessions enough
times to be able to score touchdowns or you know,
like Tyler Lockett to jump on a ball in the.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
End, great heads out for you.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yeah, and you watch Lugerius sneed just give everything he
has coming from the backside of a play to whether
he whether he affected it or not. Just the effort
that he gave on the ball that was dropped at
the goal line was incredible. So to me, it is
a coach you can point out and there's still a
lot to point out in that ball game that you
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have to correct, But the thing that you can point
out that was so huge is you just don't ever
give up. Ever, you don't ever give up, and you
always keep you keep fighting until that thing says zero.
And basically that kick went through when it said zero.
So what a great, great feeling. I mean, there was
no better feeling. Took us about three hours and forty
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five minutes to fly out there, felt like it took
us about twelve minutes to fly back.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
That's how good we were. Figured.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I think the interesting thing out of this is, and
we're going to preview the Las Vegas Raiders. Titans have
never been to Vegas to play them this first trip.
But I think the important takeaway from this just from
My perspective is to see how this team responds, because
Ryan Callahan has tried to set the table with what
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they're trying to operate under for weeks and months, all
of this offseason and through the preseason. Of the first
four games, and at some point, what your objectives are,
your mantras are the things you hang on the wall,
the things that you frame yourself as ring hollow every
week that you don't have a win. That win started
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cementing what they've been planning in that harvest, and uh,
you know it's important for the buy end of this,
and it's like, Okay, this was wacky, but a lot
of these things that we've been trying to do finally
came to fruition with everyone's effort.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Well, the entire league is like that. Just look at
the game last night. You know that Jacksonville was man
in against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Mac Jacksonville's a problem.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Well, well, but you have a quarterback fall down at
the end and all against against a Super Bowl champion team,
and then, I mean, so there's a lot of things
that can happen in the National Football League because you've
just got too much talent on both sides of the
ball Some teams have more talented players than others, but
everybody has the ability to make plays. But it's all
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about the common belief that you all have.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And and.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
You and I are there at the ball game and
we're broadcasting the game, but you can look at the
sideline and you can tell the sideline and the Titans sideline.
They were in the ball game the whole way. I
mean even when they got down early on the.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Three, twenty one six and then twenty one twelve.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, they were still they were into the ballgame, and
they were understanding that you know, it's play by play
that you've got to be able to take advantage of it.
And I mean there's no greater example than to what
happened there.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Cam Board's the first one. He threw thirteen for eighteen
for one hundred and ninety three yards in the fourth
quarter alone.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Well, and that was and you know, just to start
out with, I mean you talk about and especially going
through you know, nearly three quarters of of of an
outing that was going sideways for the for the Titans
to still be able to maintain your composure and then
start performing when everything was on the line like that,
there was a couple of those throws that he made
were just incredible, incredible throws against Manda Man dropped him
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right into the you know, on the sideline, which there's
not a lot of room there. I mean, it was
he showed how what a gamer he is at the
end of it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
H I really like your first one second one tight end,
chigacon Quo, who finished with four catches.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
For forty eight yards.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Three of those for forty two yards came in the
final eight to forty five of the game and all
for critical first downs. And I would couple that with
gunner Helm. The tight ends were huge in the last
eight and a half minutes of that game.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, they really were.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
And what was happening was is the way that they
were playing coverage. They were playing man to man, so
either had linebackers on those guys or they were dropping
back into his zone. And both of those guys are
really good against zone defenses. Chig is especially good run
after catch. I mean a couple of those plays that
he made for the first down, those throws were short
of the first down. He made people miss or he
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powered through them. And then gunner Helm for being a
rookie tight end, is you can just progressively see him.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Getting better and better.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
The one to seven route, which is a post corner
type of a move that he made on the sideline
was an incredible throw in atch.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I mean so yeah, and I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
They those those both of those guys from the tight
end position really showed up in a big way down
the stretch when they were needed.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The next one, Calvin Ridley wide receiver, five catches one
hundred and thirty one yards and one of the best
throw in catches you'll have, the one right before Gunnerhelm
caught the one at the one yard line.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I mean the the man a man defense.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I mean, that was dropped right down the chimney to
him and it was a perfect throw. It was a
great over the shoulder catch. He also made a great
catch on a dagger or a dig route and across
across the middle. You know that was starting from the
left to the right, and that was a tremendous, tremendous catch.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That was.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
You know, he made some very vital catches for big yardage.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And of course, look.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
That's that's that's what he is, and that's that's what
he needs to do. But in this ballgame, he came
up very, very big, and you can tell that it
regardless if if he's had issues before or not, the
quarterback still has a lot of confidence in him and
he can get open. And so that was he was.
He's very deserving of that because he stepped up in
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a big way. I saw him after the ballgame down
in the locker room, and he was extremely happy to
because he knows that that he made a big contribution
to that win.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Jeffrey Simmons, who is playing out of his mind. Six
quarterback pressures, another one and a half quarterback sacks.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I mean, you know, look, I've been fortunate enough in
my coaching career to be around great interior defensive lineman.
I mean Hall of Fame defensive lineman, Steve McMichael, Dan Hampton,
those got Eric Swan in Arizona, Big Albert Hainsworth here,
the couple of years that he had here before he left,
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before he left to go to go to Washington. This
season right now that Jeffrey Simmons is having is an
incredible season, even though there's only one win in it.
The things that he has done, I mean, his his
dominating performance.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He's a game wrecker. He's a completely hard five.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You'd be hard pressed to find another interior defensive lineman
that's playing as well as he is right now.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Well, I've been around a bunch of them and I
know what it looks like. And plus the work that
he put in in the off season red to get
himself ready.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
For this season.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
This is all very very intentional on his part, and
you know, people need to the players need to follow
his lead because what he is doing now, he is
leading not only by words, he is leading by action
and that is very very important for a young, young
team and.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
The next one.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Lugerius Sneed, who per next Gen Stats, ran just to
tick over twenty two miles per hour in pursuit of
Amri de Mercado on what would have been a seventy
one yard touchdown that was negated after review because he
dropped all a little too early.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Well, and of course, the other thing is is when
you look at it, you just look at the dynamics
of that play. Clear on the other side of the
field when that thing broke, that thing broke, I mean
that was a clean break. That was a clean break
for seventy two yard sprint was he was completely on
the other side of the field. He started Lagarius started
eating up stripes to catch up to him. And these
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runners they all do now because there's all huge screens
in these stadiums, they look up to see where they are.
You have to watch themselves go through it. All of
a sudden, he sees Lugerious sneed you know, coming up
on his tailpipe, you know, really fast. So who knows if.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
That had it.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And l Jerious was trying to reach in there to
punch it out. Now he punched it after he punched
through his arms, but after the ball was dropped. But
who knows how much of a distraction that was. But
I do know this, that effort that he put out
at that point in the ballgame from that part of
the field, that would be something that all coaches would
point out on film for a long time to sew.
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This is the kind of effort that you need not
only at the start of ball games, but at the
end of ball games.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And you never know which play will turn it.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
The other thing I'm pretty sure of is that if
that is a score, it's twenty eight to six, and
that's probably it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
We're not having this conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Today, well, unless we came back and scored another touchdown.
That's true, but the probability is, well, well you couldn't.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
The way things were going there, who knows what would
have happened. But just that type of effort, those types
of things as a coach that you look at and
you say, this is what I've been talking about, this
is what we've been preaching, and that was very important,
especially to see a veteran player do that.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
The other one is just the Titans defense as a whole,
who had a rough first quarter, the rest of the
way played solid, and the aforementioned Jeffrey Simmons who told
cam Ward We're going to get you the ball back
so that you can operate two minute offense. They did,
and of course we know what happened with the pick
and the lost fumble and you know Tyler Lockett recovering
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it and all of those good things, but they got
the ball back so that Joey Sly could kick a
twenty nine yard field goal.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Well, they basically kept the offense, Cardinals offense from doing anything,
you know, after the first after the first quarter, and
that was that was.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That was a huge But you could you could see.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I mean, you know where we are we look at
a lot of things, and one thing that I always
look at, you know, being a lifetime coach is a
sideline when things are you know, just to see you know,
what the body language is and see those types of things.
And you could tell that the defense was getting ready
to coalesce and come together because after every time they
scored and they came off the field, they were huddled
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up together. And uh, I think, I think we need
to mention Cedric Gray in this thing too, because you
know what.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
This young player is doing. I mean, I just love
the fact.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
I love the fact watching young players develop when I
know that they've spent time on their craft. I know
what kind of linebacker coach Frank Bush is. I know
what he puts into his players, and and and I
really like what Cedric Gray has taken from him since
he's been able to learn from.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Twenty nine tackles in his last two games.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Think about that. Think about that he's got.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I mean, he's as I say, I cut my teeth
in this league coaching linebackers, and so I can zero
in pretty good. And the thing that he's got that
I really like, Ritt that we've vetted during the draft
process I mean he's got he's a great K and D,
which is key in diagnosed guy. But he's also got
a really really natural GPS to the ball. Some guys
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can just find the football.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
He can do that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Let's take a look at the Las Vegas Raiders, who
basically were blown out by the Colts on Sunday, and
when you start to look at things, you can understand
some of why that is a thing. Quarterback Geno Smith
leads the NFL with nine interceptions. He's been sacked sixteen times,
and in fact, Pete Carroll in his postgame press for
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I believe maybe even on the presser yesterday, considered putting
in Kenny Pickett. Now that was because the score had
been separated, so for I think for the most part,
but his third multi interception game of the year was
on Sunday. And a lot of it is the protection issues.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, well they're having trouble.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Look if an offensive line is having some issues protecting
their quarterback, then I mean you've got it.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
You've got it.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
You've got issues there because if you can't establish anything
on first and second down, you have trouble protecting on
third down. I mean that those things all just I mean,
it's it happens, and so that's what's been happening to him.
Gino Smith is a veteran, veteran quarterback, but even those guys,
even when they start getting tsunami rushed and they start
getting behind the chains, they can start pressing too, and
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normally when they start pressing, then they start making not
only errant throws, they start making really really dangerous throws.
And that's clearly what's been happening then when you go
back and take the tape and start watching all of
those things. So a lot of it's stemming from the
fact that they're having trouble protecting him early on, and
with a veteran quarterback they can all get skittish back
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there if they don't have the protection.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, they're starting left tackle Colton Miller high ankle sprain
and a hairline fracture in that a couple of weeks ago.
He's on injured reserve right now, I think with designation
to return. But Stone Forsyth, their reserve or backup right tackle,
has been the guy trying to fill in at that spot.
The other part of it is they're running more eleven
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personnel now, and I think some of it is by design,
but the other is necessity because Brock Bauers, they finally
shut him down last week because he's got a PCL
that he's been dealing with in one of his knees
that he injured in Week one. Had been trying to
play through Michael Mayer, the other tight end is in
concussion protocol, and so that leaves their reserve tight end
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Ian Thomas, who has received some of the bulk of
that work. But they're missing a couple of cogs in
the wheel there.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Well, anytime a team starts missing its key players, I
mean in the.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
National Football League.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
A lot of things go into success the football league,
but health is the major one. That's number one, especially
the deeper that you start digging into a season. The
more fortunate you are to keep your top tier players healthy,
the better off you are. And if you're unfortunate, which look,
the chance is the percentage of chance of getting hurt
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playing in the National Football League is one hundred percent.
It's just a matter of when, and it's just a
matter of degree as to what your injury is going
to be.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But when you're losing some of.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Your top guys, that's going to affect how your team plays.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So they've had to rely more on Jacoby Myers who's
had his moments, Trey Tucker, who's had a good game
or two, the primary return man, and Dante Thornton. But
right now the weapon to be considered that the Titans defense,
Denard Wilson's group has to think about and be accountable
for as the rookie running back Ashtroon Genty and macketh
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he is as advertised.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, and the run game.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
The Titans still have got to get more solid defensively
against the run game.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
They know that it's.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Gonna be something they played from first quarter to fourth quarter.
Uh And and Ashen Gentry is is a dangerous guy.
He's dangerous. He's young, he's got he's got fresh legs.
He's very very talented running back. He's a very patient
running back. But he's got another gear that he can
hit if he gets if he gets into the open.
He looks a little different standing back there because he's
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not in a normal when he's standing back there in
that dot, he's standing straight up and down like Michael
Myers does in his movies. Were you know, coming in
with a mask on, you know, hand everybody.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, standing straight up and down.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
But when he when he gets when he takes off
and starts and starts moving. I mean, this guy can
move the chains and he's a dangerous, dangerous player. He
could also catch the ball out of the backfield. So
he's gonna be a guy they're gonna have to key on.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, he's got uh.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I think he's got twelve rushes of ten plus yards
averaging four point three of carry and like you said,
he's got two receiving touchdowns out of theeld two more
on the ground as a runner, and he's got to
be accounted for. When we come back, we'll talk about
some of the Raiders defense and obviously target number one
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that the Titans offense has to take care of their
special teams.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Woes, and then we'll look at some of the games
in the.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Schedule for Week six around the NFL. As we wrap up,
Mac talk the final segment here before the Titans head
west again and go play the Las Vegas Raiders. Coverage
begins here at noon. Farm Bureau Health Plans, Titans Countdown
begins at two, and the Taylor Zarzer and Coach Mack
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have the call with it to kick at three to five.
Let's finish up the Raiders assessment here. Raiders defense have
had its issues. They've allowed six straight touchdowns. Not a
lot of that was involved in that loss to the
Colts on Sunday. But the guy that has to be
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accounted for is Max Crosby. He is off of his
pace of pressures and sacks, but he's still someone to
be reckoned with.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
He's a game wrecker and he really is, especially coming
off the edge, and you're gonna have to you can't
let him, you know, get any free rushes, and you
can't let him get down in distance advantage as far
as rushing. But it's not only rushing the pastor You've
got to worry about him. I mean, he's he's he's
constant against the against the run. When I drilled down
and really starts studying and watching him play, he reminds
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me a lot of a guy that I was involved
with twice as a coach, once when I drafted him
in Arizona and then uh when when he came here
to play for the Titans.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Is Kyle Vandenbosch.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I mean, the guy is just is just and he's
always he's relentless He is a relentless type of players,
and those kind of guys are are really tough to
deal with because because their effort is always at one thousand,
I mean, they go he goes one hundred miles an
hour all the time. So you've got to know where
Mack Crosby is. Even if his numbers don't show up
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a lot. He's a game wrecker. He makes it a
lot easier on everybody else on defense. So you can't
let him be the primary disruptor going into the ballgame,
because you know that's what his nature is.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Tyree Wilson, the seventh overall pick a couple of years
ago that was their big high draft pick, is starting
Mack to play to some of the promise.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
That they saw in him in that two years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He's got a couple of quarterback sacks of his own,
He's got a handful of pressures himself.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And then you start looking through the defense.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Malcolm Coots makes plays with regularity. Jermaine Pratt they jettison
from the roster before a week four even started. The
thing I find interesting is that Jamal Adams is there,
but he's listed on the depth chart and lines up
as a linebacker.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
That's what he's playing now.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I mean, he's dropped down to that second level where
he's playing linebacker, and he's always been able to find
the football. I mean, oh, no question, that's been his
that's been his calling cards. So look, anytime you go
into somebody else's place, just like we saw with a
West trip that we just took out there, you just
you got to be on point the whole game. You
can't count on coming back from a big deficit when
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you go somewhere. What you'd like to do is be
able to start start off on the right foot and
get the score separated in your favor, because anytime you
travel like that and go and travel that far out
and then you're playing in a different venue, you'd really
like to get stuff started quickly.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And then just looking through the back third of that,
Jeremy chen is one of the strong safety that kind
of anchors that down in the back end of this thing.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
But like the Titans.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Had a year ago, the Raiders special teams unit is
really having its share of issues. In fact, punter aj
Cole was hurt on a block punt against the Colts
on Sunday, and because of that, they have signed forward
Bengals and Buffalo Bills punter Brad Robbins to kind of
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help with that because I don't know what the extent
of aj Cole's ankle injury is, but it was bad
enough that he held for another attempt or two from
Daniel Carlson, the kicker, but Carlson had to handle the
punts the rest of the way out.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, well he's hurt, he's done, and so to me,
what's important is is that bones Fossil and his Special
teams group have to stay on the same level they
are and right now. And that's extremely, extremely important because
you know, one of the quickest ways to give up
field positioned metrics, one of the quickest ways to flip
field position, and one of the quickest ways is to
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where as you can lose momentum on a football team
is if you have somebody stopped, you give it back
to them on special teams special teams, if they don't
hold up there into the bargain, then we know what
a struggle that can be. After what happened last year,
this year, the special teams have been a very very
strong point, not only with punt and not only with
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punting and the kicking, but also with punt coverage, kickoff coverage,
punt return the kickoff returns. Chim dk Is is a
really good returner. The blocking has been solid. They've cut
down on the penalties there, so Bones Fossil his crew
has to keep up that part of the of the
You know, there's three factors to every game, and they
have to keep their part up so that the offense
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and the defense can go to work.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
All right, So we'll get to your keys here in
a few minutes to trying to stack a win, which
it's been way too long since that has happened. Let's
take a look at the games in Week six around
the National Football League. It starts on Thursday night the
Philadelphia Eagles, who dropped their first game of the year
in a huge comeback by the Denver Broncos. On Sunday,
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they go to MetLife to take on the New York
Football Giants.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
You know, you got to like the Eagles in this
ball game right here, because, as you said it, with
the talent that they have throughout their roster up there
doesn't take them long to get back on track.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
And then Sunday morning, the overseas slate continues as the
Denver Broncos take on the New York Jets at Tottenham
Hotspur Stadium.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Well, the Broncos are playing really good football right now,
so the Jets better get hot at Hotspur if they
want to do anything on this.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Hot at Hotspur.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
The last winless team in the league now at oh
to five and trying to get off the snide one.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That just continues to be something to watch morbidly.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I guess if you're a Baltimore Ravens fan, the Rams
come to Baltimore to take them on at noon on Sunday,
and Baltimore is the walking wounded.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Well, and again they're a great example of really really,
really good top tier football team.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
But you start losing your players, you're a different team.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
They may have the same uniforms on, but if you've
got different dudes in those uniforms, it makes a huge difference.
And right now they are missing a lot of key,
key players, starting with their quarterback, and that, you know,
it makes all the difference in the world. And so,
I mean, you know, if people look at it and
think that, you know, having injuries is an excuse in
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the National Football League, it's not an excuse. It's a reality,
and once because your backup players. There's not enough depth
in this league anywhere. Because you've got thirty two teams,
you've got sixteen practice squad players.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Now they're just.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
All the football talent is thinned out across the country
very much so, especially at this elite level. You get
your top players hurt that many that they have. I mean,
there's a reason why they're having problems winning games.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
The Cowboys head to Bank of America Stadium and Charlotte
to take on the Carol Line of Panthers.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Well, I mean you got to think the Cowboys are
It should be in pretty good shape there if they
can get everything squared up because their offense is playing
really good.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It is.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Their offenses is gin in right now with Prescott, they're
playing really.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Good well, and Javonte Williams was a perfect fit for
them in free agency now that he's fully healed and
back from that horrific knee injury he had a couple
of years ago in Denver. But you know what, Rico
Dowde will put on a show with Carolina the other
they had two hundred and thirty four yards some scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah, Well, Rigo Dannell told him that they needed to
buckle up when they're coming in there to play him.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So we'll see.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I see where Brian Schottenheimer said they'd bring their seat belts,
So we'll see how this works.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, famous last words, Right, all right, the Arizona Cardinals
are at Lucas Oil Stadium to take on the Indianapolis Colts,
who hung a bunch on the Raiders last week.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Now they probably first of all, I mean, there's probably
not a hotter team in the league right now than
the Colts. I mean, the Colts are really playing good football.
We found that out here.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
We've seen them, you know, just you know what they've
been doing.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Again, that's a that's a long trip for the Cardinals
to make going from West back, you know, to Indianapolis,
especially coming off of that loss that they just had
to the Titans. But the Colts, the Colts are playing
probably as good as football as anybody in the league
right now.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
And Jonathan Taylor is a big, big part of that.
He is running just like he did at first year
or two he was in the league.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Well, the quarterback's playing great too, I mean we saw that.
So now they're just playing really good football there at
Indy right now, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Staying at the AFC South, the Seattle Seahawks make the
cross country trip to M and T. Banks Stadium to
take on the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are playing pretty dog
on good football themselves.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
They really are.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
And that's about as long a trip as you can
make too, you.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Know, unless one coast of the other that.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Is completely clear across diagonally across the country, and that's
a that's a long trip, but long trip be as
it may. That Jacksonville is playing really good football right now.
We know they have a good football team. And the
one thing that they had to get going with their quarterback.
They've got their quarterback going right now. Along with that
defensive talent that they have. That's that's gonna be some
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work for Seattle to take on there.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
The Browns at the Steelers. Those are always interesting AFC
North games, New England and New Orleans. Cincinnati at Green Bay,
San Francisco still working through injuries at Tampa Bay three
twenty five kick. The Lions take on the Kansas City
Chiefs at Arrowhead on Sunday night football.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Yeah, I would be very very shocked if the if
the Chiefs aren't in a rebound mode, you know after
that game. They just basically they gave the game away
down there.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And Detroit has their injury woes as well. Yes, at
you're right about that, and would I would think that
they get.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Back on the winning wagon for that.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And it is a double header on Monday night football
Buffalo at Atlanta and Chicago at Washington.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Well, Buffalo is probably pretty salty right now after what
New England did to them, So that's gonna be interesting
to see how they bounce back out of that.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
All right, in our final minute here, what are coach
Max's keys to stacking a win and getting one in
Vegas against the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Well, you got to keep Max Crosby from ruining your offense.
That's number one.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
You got to do that.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
You've got to be able to you got you've got
to be able to continue what you did in the
fourth quarter through the first three quarters now down there offensively.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
That has to happen.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
The other thing that that has to happen is you
got to you got to bottle up Genty. You can't
let Ash and Genty take this game over on the ground.
And then Bones Fossil Special teams continue to not only
play well, but keep elevating that part of the game.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
For coach Dave McGinnis, I'm Rett Brian. We thank you
for listening to Mac Talk. Don't forget Titans and Raiders
this Sunday on one oh four to five, The Zone