October 15, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's coach Dave McGinnis. I'm re at Brian and we
are heading into Week seven of the National Football League
schedule as the Tennessee Titans prepared to face the New
England Patriots at home Sunday at Nissan Stadium. Coverage begins
here at nine am. We're on at eleven with Farm
Bureau Health Plans. Titans count Down kick off at twelve
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oh two with Taylor's Arser and Mac. So there's a
few things to address here Mac as we return for
Mac Talk. First of all, the Titans promoted edge rusher
Ali Gay from the practice squad of the team's fifty
three man roster, and as a result, they had placed
edge rusher Famiola Dejo to the injured reserve and he
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got dinged up in that game in Vegas, and so
he will miss at least four games. And I hate
that for him because you've been talking about it for
a couple of three weeks now. The way he started
to set the edge for the defense, he was really
starting to come along in that part of his game.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, he just needed time on task.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I mean, they knew that when they drafted him, moving
from behind the ball to out there on the edge
and he needed he needed reps.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
He needed those reps out there.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So that I hate the fact that he's injured to
begin with, and that he's injured bad enough to go
on to ir so, which means he'll be out of
commission for four weeks, which is you know, he's that's
missing a lot of reps for a young player. We saw,
you know just what happens when rookies missed a lot
of that developmental time.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It just takes him a long time to catch up.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, yeah, I mean evidence by Cedric Gray at linebacker. Correct,
he missed ten games his rookie year and he was
just trying to find his way that last handful of
games he was active his rookie season, and it took
all the off season and a battle in training camp
with James Williams, and here he is with four tackles
in his last three games.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, And I mean it's just it just points out
that what those young players need, especially young players that
have to play early, and that that basically have to
start early also because of the way the roster is.
I mean, it's the time on task when they missed
that time, it's it's it's detrimental to them to begin with.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You can't make it up. It's men, just completely. Six seven, three, seven,
one four five is the number. If you want to
call and ask coach Dave McGinnis a question, you usually do.
And uh, you know it's been talked about a lot
here on the Zone, but we haven't talked to you
about it. One on one. Brian Callahan was relieved of
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his duties as the head coach of the Titans Monday afternoon,
and after some discussion, Mike McCoy, who's been a senior
assistant on this staff this season, has been named and
tabbed as the interim head coach. Uh. This is the
part that you know, for fans that wanted to see
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somebody go and see something else picked up or whatever,
this is a part that's that's troubling for for me personally,
and I know it affects you the same way because
these are people. This is a people business. And yes
it's production based, but Brian Callahan's a fine, fine person,
good family man, very good person, and he's good football coach.
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He will have another opportunity somewhere else, but he was
really good to us in Titans Radio.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, I mean and it's but it's the This is
a zero sum business and if you don't win enough games,
you're not gonna win all of your games. Everybody knows
that going in. But if you if you get on
a string of where you're just having a hard time,
you know, winning games, and especially you get you get
on a role as to where you continue to drop games.
I mean, that's this is what the league is. And
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all of us, all of us that get into this business,
and especially if you're fortunate enough to work your way
up in this business to this level, you know what
the consequences are for not winning games. It still doesn't
it you know, because you don't win games doesn't mean
you're not a good person. And then that's that's number one.
And as you say, it's real, it's real flippant and
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easy to say, well you need to.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Fire this guy and fire that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And with you know, but it's it's it's too easy
to talk about it. It's really it's really hard, uh
on on the not only the coach, but you, and
it's hard on the families. It's just it's a part
of the business that everybody understands. When you're in the business,
you know that that's the problem if you don't win,
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But at the same time, it's it's it's hard on
everybody that's connected with you. And then when a coach
is fired, especially a head coach in this league, the
first thing that they have is regrets that they were
not able to do more.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's what's that's what you have.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And then it's I mean, I've lived this life for
a lot of years in this league. When I was
when I was let go at Arizona, I've told this
story on the air before. I mean that afternoon I
had five job offers. I knew that, you know, I
would not have any trouble working again. But it's the
fact that you didn't accomplish what you wanted to accomplish
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when you were given the reins of a franchise.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And UH coach Mack has been an interim head coach.
UH that has, you know, been elevated to that spot
before he became a head coach, so he understands that
part of it too, especially what Mike McCoy is going
through as the interim head coach of the Tennessee Titan.
Let's go to the phone six one, five, seven, three
seven one zero four five Roy and Brentwood wants to
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talk about Mike McCoy Go ahead, you're on with coach
mac hey.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
What's up, guys? What's up Coach mac Hey? Roy, just
a couple of things. Uh, you know this weekend coming up.
You know, obviously there's gonna be two mikes coach and
one another sideline and one on our sideline. And I
look for a lot of chairs for the former coach.
He was a you know, a big Sam's favorite. But
at the end of the good day, I'm hoping Mike
mccrorley had a lot of cheers. But with that being said,
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how will the game call him to be? Do you
see mccorley kind of keeping it kind of face and
consimple for the guys going with what they kind of
used to. But what we see Bo Audigrey swing that
row up, maybe calling plays out and the still kind
of changes you see. I know, I knew mccorley hasn't
coached in over a decade. His head coach, you know,
he had Philip Rivers. It's really talented wide receivers there,
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and I'm just kind of curious what you thought. Soo
tighten up all right, Roy, Now.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Thanks, Yeah, he's already said that, Uh, BOE's going to
continue to call the plays. He's going to continue to
call the plays, and and I can I understand why,
because again, when Mike is coming in to take this
thing over, you've got to administer the game and that's
going to be extremely extremely important. As Red said, I've
been an interim head coach before, and so there's a
lot that goes into that. He's got an advantage Roy
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in the fact that he's been a head coach before,
so that part of it is not.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
New to him.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's really when you're a new head coach. That's really
all the everything that comes around being a head coach.
Everything else you have to do, even just besides the
x's and o's, becomes pretty overwhelming at times. He won't
have that just because of the fact that he's done
this before. But he's already said that bo Hartigre is
going to continue to call the place.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah. In fact, the only coaching change assistant wise, is
one of the ones that you could obviously draw a
line to. And Bill Callahan is now gone from coaching
the offensive line, and you figured that would happen being
the father of Brian. Everything else is status quo, so direct. Yeah,
here we go.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He's not going to make any other changes with that.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Correct. Let's go back to the phones. Davis in Lebanon.
You're on with coach Mac.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
What's up, Man of Knowledge?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Hey Davis? How are you doing this evening?
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Oh buddy, I'm doing. First of all, I wish best
wishes for coach Callahana. I know he's a good man.
I hope nothing the best for him and his dad
on their next menu. But uh, you know what, I'll
tell you what. I still love the Titans no matter what.
They're always going to be my team, and I love
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all the ones involved with our team. We've got a
good bunch of people and radio hosts and everything else,
and we just need to stick tight and continue loving
our Titans, and we're going to get there. We just
got to be a little patient sometimes that's hard for
us to do, but we're going to get there.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
David, thank you so much for the call. And you know,
the fans like yourself are very much appreciated. Ret and
I just uh were involved in a big road rally
uh this last week in Las Vegas and The number
of Titans fans that made that trip, that came to
that road rally rally on Saturday night was outstanding. I mean,
we were there with Jarrell and with Kyle vannenbis. I mean,
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it was it was It was pretty inspirational to be
there to see to see all those people.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This is a great fan base. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And they're like, what you need is you just need
success for rewards, because the reward in this business, as
I've said many many times, it's not the money.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's not the cars.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's I mean, anybody that makes it to this level,
you're gonna make money. All of that stuff is ancillary.
But winning, winning is the is the only reward in
this business. And that's only the reward. It's only the
reward for coaches and players and especially for fans. That's
why everybody is in it. So you're one hundred percent right,
That's that's what I that's what I wish for them.
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You know now that I'm broadcasting and I can't affect
what's going on on the field, but I know how
much it does affect the people that care.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
About the team. That's who I want to win for.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Let's go back to the phones here, Todd in Nashville.
You're on with coach Dave McGinnis on MAC Talk.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
What's up, hey, coach? First of all, I'm a little
bit behind. Why do they get rid of Brownlee Junior?
He was a promising player. I don't I don't get it.
We seemed like we don't know our good stars that
or could be good stars. It doesn't make sense. And
also I'm just kind of wondering what cam Ward was
thinking when he saw the rusher coming to him at
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the two yard line. He saw him coming, Why are
you moving the ball to your left in the open pocket,
to your arm and in between your body where it's
going to easily be popped out? I don't know what
he was thinking.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
To me.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
That was going back to like levis we our quarterbacks?
I gotta think fundamentally, Thank you coach?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
All right, Todd? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, Todd. His ball security needs to be better. And
that's I mean, he said that too, and look they were,
they were on top of it pretty quick. But you're right,
that's that's the number one thing for a quarterback, especially
if you're under the rest. Ball security that's extremely extremely important.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The other question, you know, what once that decision has made.
Once the decision has made to trade somebody, Rhett and
I don't get involved in the reasons. Why we just
report what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, because I mean, we don't know what that reason
is and anything we speak about it that way would
be speculation. I don't know why that move was made,
but it has been made. And unfortunately, the in a
business like this, that's water under the bridge. That's what
it is. Let's take one more and then we got
people calling in. This is good. You guys are calling tonight.
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Let's go back to the phones and let's go to
whitt in Kingston Springs. Hello, you're on MAC talk.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Hey, thank you very much, And coach, I really appreciate
your perspective through this, particularly as an interim coach. I'm
curious to the plays themselves. To me, has seemed really rudimentary,
really really simple, and maybe I'm maybe I'm seeing it wrong,
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and maybe it's because of the player development's not there yet,
But the NFL these days is so dynamic, and it
just seems like we're junior high playbook going against the
NFL sometimes. And I just wonder, if you know, Mike
McCoy can can take some time and implement some more
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dynamic plays or if kind of stuck with this playbook
for the rest of this season.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Thank you, Thank you so much for calling in. Look.
I promise you this.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I watch hours and hours and hours of tape and
have done it for forty years. Most players are very
similar in the National Football League. It's execution that makes
the difference. It's execution that makes the difference.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I mean, you can you can start, you can start
drawing a line between any type of plays that are
that are called in the National Football League. They're all very,
very similar. But the difference comes in in execution, and
it comes in inconsistency.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's where the difference is.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah. And the other part of it, too, is is
what you have operationally to work with. And we've been
talking about this roster is young, high turnover, lots of
rook he's contributing and playing as opposed to a veteran
roster that's been assembled over time. Uh. That leans into
that execution part of it as well.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's time on task.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I mean, there's no You've heard me say this a
lot of times, and I say it, and everything that's
involved in the National Football League, especially with the players
and coaches. There is no, no, nothing that tops experience. Experience,
Trump's everything in this league. And until you you've gained that,
then there's going to be a certain amount of catchup
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that you have to do.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Let's go ahead and take section three point thirty four.
You're on with coach mac.
Speaker 10 (13:37):
What's up, gentlemen, how are we doing?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Section four?
Speaker 10 (13:42):
How man doing good? Doing good? I figured I had
to call in whenever these thick events happened, for sure,
So I call in. You know, I'm a voice of
the people up in the three hundred section. Of course,
I would say, you know, giving these events, the determination
of Barne Callahan is not really a surprise. If you
talk to the fans up there, everyone thinks that the
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higher was preliminary, given you know, lack of experience of
play calling. He probably should have been in oc for
a couple of years calling plays and kind of went
to the traditional way, if he will. So it's no
fault of his own for you know, Brinker and a
company to offer the guy the job and for him
to take and you must have a really good agent
so that would have some experience there. Maybe we can
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just get back to the basics. But I think in
terms of the play calling, of course it's gonna be
you know, elementary because they have a rookie quarterback, and
of course it comes down to execution as always, but
whenever you have a rookie quarterback, I feel you've got
to take the pressure off of the rookie quarterback. You
have to establish their run game and you get back
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to basics and shorten the game. I know it's kind
of boring in today's NFL, but it's the basics. It
wins ball games, and from there you build the quarterback up.
I think that's something that we need to establish on Sunday,
and I just want to hear your thoughts on that to.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Thank you sir.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Absolutely. I mean, you know, a run game is a
quarterback's best friend. But the issue, the issue starts to
happen is is when you're not having any success running it,
and all of a sudden, when the score starts getting separated,
then you know you have to start you have to
start spinning it all over the lot and.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's not good either.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And they've had they've tried to run the football early on,
but have gotten behind the chains on first and second down.
But the run game, to start with your basic principle,
it absolutely is a friend of a young quarterback. Anybody
that is calling plays in this league, and anybody really
that's coaching in this league understands that you have to
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have a good balance between the run and the pass game.
Because I've called a lot of defenses in this league,
and if I knew that somebody had to throw the
football because the score was separated, a lot easier for
me to defend that. Also, the fact is, if the
run game is not is not working, and I know
that my offense line can't dominate the defensive front, you've
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got a problem there too. So all of those things
go together. But your premise as far as the run
game being a help to a young quarterback, that's true.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Let's go back to the phones and talk to Brad.
Section one forty four. You're on with coach Steve McGinnis.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Hey, coach mackay Riett. Loved your show, Thanks Brady.
Speaker 11 (16:25):
When someone takes over as interim head coach like Mike
McCoy is, do they get a pay raise? Tighten up?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
All right, Brad?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know what, I love callers on this show because
we can talk about some real things because I've experienced
all of this in my life. It's a great, great question,
and the answer is yes, they absolutely do.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean I was an interim head coach.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I absolutely got a pay raise as soon as I
accepted that job. But I appreciate you bringing that question
up because that's good insight into the inner workings of
what happens. But the answer to your question, which like
all the other questions that we have here today, there's
been a great call in group so far, the answer
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to that is yes, Brad.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
They get a pay raise.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Jeffrey Simmons added another couple of tackles for loss. Another
quarterback sack leads the team with four and a half
quarterback sacks thirty six in his career.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, well, I mean he's on a tear. He is
on a path right now that.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Very few interior defensive linemen are on. As far as
this early in the season. You and I were just
with Kyle Vannenbis early on and Jerrell Casey at that
road rally this Vegas. Yeah, this weekend, Jarrell Casey, if
you've brought it up and you're spot on with the
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year that he had ten and a half sacks from
an interior position. He was on just about this exact,
this exact path. But as far as to what's going
on in the present time with Jeffrey Simmons, and I've been,
I have been personally with in my coaching career. Fortunate enough,
a lot of several Hall of Fame defensive interior defensive lineman's.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's playing at that type of a peak right now.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
All right, back to the phones we go, Rod in
the borough. What's up?
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Yes, Cam said in his interview the other night that
he's comfortable with the up temple and offense, and they
showed success with it, but after they won two weekends ago,
we didn't see it really anymore. And I know you
can't do it the whole game, but you can put
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it in there if he's comfortable with it, and maybe
keep the defense off ballance just a little more than
they have been.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Hey, Rolph, Yeah, appreciate, appreciate that. Thank you, Rod. Thanks.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Talk Mack is going to tell you is that it
depends on the opponent.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It does. It depends on the opponent on the floor
of the game.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
We've we've talked about this before, which I mean it's
it's a point and the up tempo is something that
you do throughout a ball game, and it's it's very
very important. Now, the defensive side of it is this,
if somebody is going all tempo all of the time.
You know, I've called a lot of defenses against up
tempo offense. It's what you do is you get automatic
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blitzeres against it because up tempo is harder to protect.
It's harder to protect because if you're going up tempo
most of the times, you're spread out, most of the
times you're doing it to throw the football. So you
can go automatic. You can go what we call AFC
automatic front and coverage or BTF blitz the formations, and
so that makes it harder for the offense to pick
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it up if you do it all of the time.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But as a change up, I'm with you, it's something
that can help.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Let's go back to the phones here, Jack in East Nashville.
You're on with the coach Dave McGinnis on MAC Talk,
Good Evening, Mac.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Did you ever work Did you ever recruit in the
Golden Triangle?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Absolutely? Absolutely. I mean I've recruited all over the state
of Texas and especially down there, the Golden.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Run, Port Arthur, Beaumont, all that area down in there. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Well. I was born and raised in Beaumont See in
the in the early seventies. I went to a sold
out astronome to watch ports Groves play Odessa.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And that that that was?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That was that was back.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That was back in the day when Uh, Odessa High,
Odessa is Odessa Permian is who you were watching them play?
Because there was two yeah, yeah, there were there were
there were two high schools. There's Odessa High, then there
was Odessa Permian. Permian is who you watched port hus
Groves play. But I was, Uh, I recruited all of
that area down in there in my college days.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, I figured as much. It's always good to hear
another Texan for the and uh for those of us
to know which UT is the real UT. So I'm
probably missing because I'm late getting turned onto the show here.
What is what's your outlook on the spellow that they've
appointed as the interim head coach?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
A veteran Okay, thank you thanks for calling in appreciate
the call very much.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Mike McCoy is a veteran coach.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
In this League.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I've known him for quite a while.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
He's he's been a head coach in the National Football League,
was a head coach, head coach for the Chargers.
Speaker 11 (21:30):
Uh, he was.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He was an offensive He's a senior offensive assistant on
this staff, which means he kind of overlooked everything offensively,
you know, without coaching a position. But he's a very
he's a very accomplished coach. He's been in the business
a long time, and plus he had experience. He had
four years of experience of being a head coach in
this league, and so he was the most logical choice
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on that staff to get.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The interim job.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Now, when they offer you the inner job, I mean,
you can take it or you cannot take it. You don't,
you don't have to take it. But I look everybody
that's in this business, and if he reached that, if
you reach that point in your career, especially if you've
been a head coach before, you get an opportunity to
do it again, he absolutely it was the was the
right guy off of this staff to take this over.
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Because you don't want to disrupt everything, but what you
do want to do is if you get a new
perspective on it, and look when you once you get
your head coach fired, somebody has to take over to
conduct all the meetings and everything that has to happen.
It's a pretty quick turnaround. And the fact that he's
had experience before doing it that will help him.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Let's do a little Thundael description of the next opponent,
and that's Mike Vrabel and the four and two New
England Patriots coming to town on Sunday. And with the
loss last night on Monday Night Football that the Buffalo
Bills had at the hands of the Atlanta Falcons, they
are in sole possession right now in the driver's seat
in the AFC East Division. Hadn't been that Patriots wise
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in a long time. But it's led by Drake May,
the quarterback second year man from North Carolina. Sixth and
passing yards per game just over two forty four game,
seventh in scoring at twenty five points per game, number
two in the league, and passing yards per play it
just over eight yards per play. Drake May over fifteen
hundred yards, seventy three percent completion percentage, ten touchdowns to
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just two interceptions. He's been sacked eighteen times. What is
Drake made doing so well.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
No, he's just playing within the confines of the offense.
He's playing very well. Is a second year quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You know, rehtt and I.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You know, once our ball game's over, we have to
dig into the next opponent to start finding out. Rhett
digs in and finds all these pertinent numbers. You know,
I do all the I do a lot of the
film work. We both look at the filmwork compare notes.
But to me, Drake May, Drake May has been on
a pretty good tear this second season that he's been
in the league, very very He's a very efficient quarterback.
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You've got ten touchdowns and two interceptions. I mean, he's policed,
playing very efficient football. Rat's the best thing that he's done.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And the impressive thing is seventy three percent completion percentage.
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, and he's taking what the defense is given a run.
That's exactly what he's doing. Plus he's he's a part.
He's a big part of the run game too. He's
a big part of the run game along with the
two running backs. To know, you're going to mention, Yeah,
in fact, his running game part of this.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think he's got forty three yards after contact, and
he has a couple of ten plus yard runs himself.
It is becoming a two headed monster in this thing.
Ramondre Stevenson has been there for a while and as
the veteran. They drafted Treveon Henderson out of Ohio State.
And both of those guys can move it on the ground,
both of them can catch it out of the backfield.
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Both have multiple runs of ten plus yards or longer.
Both have combined two hundred and twenty six yards after
contact in Josh McDaniel's offense.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, well, they're playing a physical brand of football.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
They're being very, very physical and the quarterback is protecting
the football. Those are two things that make your offense
run on schedule.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Hunter Henry is a big part of that as the
tight end in this thing, but Stefan Diggs and Kashawn
Buttie are moving the ball as well. Digs twelve point
one yards per catch, Bootie sixteen point seven yards per catch.
It showed up against New Orleans on Sunday. He caught
all five of his targets for ninety three yards and
two scores.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, well that's that's digging into the what is happening
pretty quickly. And Rett now I'll give you exactly. I mean,
it takes us a couple of days to get zeroed
in on the next opponent. But I think we both
feel like we've got a pretty good handle at least
on what they do. Because when we give you these
give you these pointers, and these tips are these observations,
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it's normally plays itself out pretty much.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Let's go to Terrell William's three four defense with Mike Vrabel,
number four against the run in fact, only allowing eighty
three and a half yards on the ground opponent wise,
and number three in the league at three point four
to six yards per rushing attempt.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, well, again, they're just you know, they're they're playing
really good as they're playing complimentary football.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You hear that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You hear that term, and.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
It's what Mike McCoy talked about today.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, people kind of brush it aside, but in the business,
it's very, very important to have all three phases complimenting
one another, not one phase dominating, just three complimenting each
other during the course of a sixty minute game.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Right, And it's upfront with their you know, they had
a lot of money under the cap and they spend
a lot of money in free agency. One of the
big spins was a man who helped the Philadelphia Eagles
really get over the hump and beat the Kansas City
Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and that's interior defensive lineman
Milton Williams. He has been worth the contract with Christian
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Barmour up front in that three four thirteen quarterbacks sacks
as a team, four and a half of those by
Harold Landry, the other edge rusher on the other side,
the other linebackers Kaylevon Chase On two quarterback sacks, and
then the secondary Carlton Davis Christian Gonzalez, who has had
some health issues. Their nickel cornerback is Marcus Jones. He
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was a two or three year starter at Troy, then
he transferred to Houston and he is a very fast,
undersized corner in this but that's not where he worries me.
It's the special team's part of this. He's number one
in the NFL at twenty three point one point one
yards per punt return through six games. He has an
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eighty seven yarder returned for a touchdown against the Carolina
Panthers in Week four. We looked at him in draft
vetting stuff five eight one eighty five, did not run
in pro das and stuff. He had had work on
both of his shoulders surgically. But he has been clocked
in the four threes. And he returned four kickoffs for
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touchdowns in his last year at Houston, intercepted five balls there.
He tied the NCAA all time record with nine kickoff
returns for touchdowns in his two seasons at Troy. So
to say he's a specialist is an understatement. Now their
kickoff returner Antonio Gibson towards acl game before last. So
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incomes the undrafted rookie free agent from Eastern Washington, efdam Chisholm,
the third who had his first try at special teams
against the New Orleans Saints on Sunday, averaged over twenty
eight yards per kick return, and he is apparently another
weapon that John Bones Fossil and those guys have to
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be aware of. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, again, as I say, I mean, if you, if
you just, if you'll listen, we'll kind of give you
the lowdown on what these teams are doing. But that's
and that again is to my point as to when
you watch the tape, you can see three components of
their team, complimenting one another.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Back to the phones, we go, Dylan and Nashville. You're
on with coach McGinnis.
Speaker 11 (29:00):
Hello, man, I am excited to be on with you, Coach.
I really appreciate what you do and bring the insight
to the fans.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Man.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Man.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
I was listening to Ben Jones talk on the radio
the other day with Buck and Luca, and he had
mentioned Marcus Mariota back in the day, him and they
take over the call and plays on the field. Offensive
coordinator Tarry Robinski in like the two minute drill would
turn off the headset, let those two kind of run
the show. Now, Coach Mack and your thirty plus years
of experience, have you ever seen something like that? I
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kind of just wanted to get your take and do
you think that, you know, with that sort of freedom
could work in Tennessee with cam Ward and Lloyd Cushion Barry. Now,
Cam's a gunflinger, He's got that natural confidence, that playmaking instinct.
I think maybe letting him and Lloyd kind of, you know,
call a few things and get them comfortable can help
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them settle in for the future. I don't know, just
kind of wanted to get your inside.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Man.
Speaker 11 (29:57):
I know some interceptions may come from that, some growing
pains and some learning moments, but you know, you also
get a young quarterback at the end of the day
who's truly learning how to lead an offense. So I'll
just hang up and listen. I really appreciate what you do.
Thanks for keeping me a Titan fan. Brother.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thank you, Dylan, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Dylan.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean, and a lot of that depends on
the maturity of the quarterback and also the maturity of
your center, and that comes with time on task. You
hear me talk all the time, Dylan, not only about quarterbacks,
but about just the importance of time on task for
every position on the football field. But when you're a
quarterback and your center have enough time on task together
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and they have enough familiarity with what's going on, you
absolutely can do that. I've done that throughout my coaching career.
But it had to do a lot with how much
those two together can handle, because they have to be
able to set the protections, they have to be able
to set everything. Can it be done, absolutely, but again,
the key to it is time on task between both
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those guys.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
All Right, Let's look through Week seven of the National
Football League schedule, and it starts Thursday night, excuse me,
starts Thursday night with an AFC North Division battle. Pittsburgh
is at Cincinnati to take on the Bengal.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Pittsburgh's playing good, good football right now, so I mean,
and the Bengals they got some injuries themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
They're struggling a little bit. So Pittsburgh I like in
that game.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, and Cincinnati with no Joe Burrow is completely different anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's what I'm talking about. They've got injuries, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And then the over the seas games continue on Sunday morning,
and this is the Rams taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars
at Wimbley Stadium with an eight thirty kickoff.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Should be a pretty good football game.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Now, if pookin a Coup is not healthy, then that
tips the favor in Jacksonville because pooka Acoup, as we
have seen in person, and then just watch over his
his career since he's been there with McVeigh, he's a
he's a weapon, and he's a problem. If he's injured,
that that bodes pretty well for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, because that that is a totally looking different looking
animal without him in there for sure. All right, let's
look through here. Oh, the Raiders are at Kansas City
at AFC West Division matchup in the noon slate at
Arrowhead Stadium. Kansas City looks like they're climbing back into things.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, well, I mean they're you know, they're they're doing
Kansas City things. They had a little bit of a dip,
but they didn't it didn't last very long. I'll look
for Kansas City to be able to take this ball game.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Philadelphia Eagles coming off of a loss at Minnesota to
take on the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Now, both of these teams are struggling just a little bit,
the Philly more than anybody would have thought that they
would have been. If it's at Minnesota, that's that's always
a difficult place to play up there.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Carolina is at the New York Jets, the only winless
team left in the league. Carolina is really starting to
put some nice things together. You know, they've had Cuba
Hubbard for the last two games, and Rico Dowdell has
put on a show.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, well, Rico Dawdell, what do you tell the Cowboys
need to buckle up and come in here. They should
have buckled up because right now you've got to believe
in what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well. Y had two hundred and thirty four yards from
scrimmage a week ago, two thirty nine from scrimmage against
the Cowboys on Sunday at Bank of America Stadium, and
Bryce Young, I mean, it looks like Dave Canalis is
getting that thing in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well again, you know, Bryce Young has got more games
and more years under his belt. Rout. I mean, that's
just the way it works.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Indianapolis travels to SOFI to take on the Los Angeles
Chargers for a three to zero five kick, and Indianapolis
is playing some good football.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
They're playing really good football. Now they've got to travel
across country, which we all have to do in the
AFC South Division this year at least twice because we're
playing those teams.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Out west in both conferences. So I like the way
Indy is playing.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
You always got a factor in that travel component when
you go that far out west. But I like Indy
in this ball game because they're playing pretty solid football.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Here's an NFC East matchup that these are always interesting
to me. It's a three twenty five kick. And this
team came off of a last minute field goal loss
last night to the Chicago Bears. Washington Commanders go to
Jerry World to take on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
And Washington, Washington was playing a good ball game last night.
I mean, and they they're they're continuing to play pretty
pretty solid football. The Cowboys. I mean, the Cowboys are
so up and down it's hard to know what they're
going to do. But going in there, going in there
to play at Dallas's, that's a tough place to play
when they're rolling Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Speaking of Roland at home against the Buffalo Bills, rolled
all over Buffalo and Bijon Robinson was a big, big
part of that. They traveled to Levi Stadium to take
on the San Francisco for the Ers, who continue to
have a laundry list of injuries.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's injured injured a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I like it landing this ball game because as you said,
I mean, they're playing you know, when we went to
practice against them this year, I mean, they you can
see they got some components of some pretty good players
put together. They're playing really good right now.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Absolutely. And then it's a double header on Monday night
football Tampa Bay is at Detroit, and I'm telling you
right now, Baker Mayfield is playing as good a football
as you will find based on one thing. He is
missing his top four wide receivers and his top running
back in Bucky Irving, and he has been just like
a house of fire.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Now he's a dealer and he's done a good job
of moving that football team. And right now he's the guy.
He's the guy that's holding it together.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
And the second of the doubleheader is Houston is at
Seattle to take on the Seahawks again.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Another another, another, another long trip out there Houston.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
To me, though, as long as Houston's defence stays like
they are, they got a chance every week.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
At Seattle with an impressive cross country trip to beat
Jacksonville in Jacksonville on Sunday. Correct, that's a long flight
from Seattle.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's about as far unless you're going from Alaska.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's true. I mean, seriously, it's like going to London
or something. But yeah, it's NonStop from Bna. It's over
five hours yep, so you know it's way on me. Anyways,
going from Alaska, what are coach Max Keys to a
Titans victory over the New England Patriots Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Well, first of all, you got to control this quarterback.
Drake May is on fire right now. You've given his
numbers early on in this program. We had a lot
of great callers tonight too, so appreciate everybody calling, but
the numbers that WRHTT gave you and the breakdown on
this scene, Drake May is the one that's guiding this.
You got to be able to handle him. And then
the run game, including the quarterback. With those two running backs,
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that can be an issue. So you're gonna have to
be able to earn up defensively to play to play
the run game. And then in the special teams part
of it. You just mentioned two returners punt and kickoff returners.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
That are in the top part of the league. You
better get you better at.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
The special teams needs to be on point, So Bones
Fossil needs to get those guys on point every time
they're on the field.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Well, remind you Tennessee returns to Nissan Stadium this Sunday
to take on the new England Patriots. Coverage begins right
here Sunday at nine am. Titans countdown on the network
at eleven kickoff officially at twelve oh two with Taylor
Zarzer and Dave McGinnis right here on the home of
Titans Radio,
He's coach Dave McGinnis. I'm re at Brian and we
are heading into Week seven of the National Football League
schedule as the Tennessee Titans prepared to face the New
England Patriots at home Sunday at Nissan Stadium. Coverage begins
here at nine am. We're on at eleven with Farm
Bureau Health Plans. Titans count Down kick off at twelve
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oh two with Taylor's Arser and Mac. So there's a
few things to address here Mac as we return for
Mac Talk. First of all, the Titans promoted edge rusher
Ali Gay from the practice squad of the team's fifty
three man roster, and as a result, they had placed
edge rusher Famiola Dejo to the injured reserve and he
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got dinged up in that game in Vegas, and so
he will miss at least four games. And I hate
that for him because you've been talking about it for
a couple of three weeks now. The way he started
to set the edge for the defense, he was really
starting to come along in that part of his game.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, he just needed time on task.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I mean, they knew that when they drafted him, moving
from behind the ball to out there on the edge
and he needed he needed reps.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
He needed those reps out there.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So that I hate the fact that he's injured to
begin with, and that he's injured bad enough to go
on to ir so, which means he'll be out of
commission for four weeks, which is you know, he's that's
missing a lot of reps for a young player. We saw,
you know just what happens when rookies missed a lot
of that developmental time.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It just takes him a long time to catch up.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, yeah, I mean evidence by Cedric Gray at linebacker. Correct,
he missed ten games his rookie year and he was
just trying to find his way that last handful of
games he was active his rookie season, and it took
all the off season and a battle in training camp
with James Williams, and here he is with four tackles
in his last three games.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, And I mean it's just it just points out
that what those young players need, especially young players that
have to play early, and that that basically have to
start early also because of the way the roster is.
I mean, it's the time on task when they missed
that time, it's it's it's detrimental to them to begin with.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You can't make it up. It's men, just completely. Six seven, three, seven,
one four five is the number. If you want to
call and ask coach Dave McGinnis a question, you usually do.
And uh, you know it's been talked about a lot
here on the Zone, but we haven't talked to you
about it. One on one. Brian Callahan was relieved of
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his duties as the head coach of the Titans Monday afternoon,
and after some discussion, Mike McCoy, who's been a senior
assistant on this staff this season, has been named and
tabbed as the interim head coach. Uh. This is the
part that you know, for fans that wanted to see
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somebody go and see something else picked up or whatever,
this is a part that's that's troubling for for me personally,
and I know it affects you the same way because
these are people. This is a people business. And yes
it's production based, but Brian Callahan's a fine, fine person,
good family man, very good person, and he's good football coach.
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He will have another opportunity somewhere else, but he was
really good to us in Titans Radio.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, I mean and it's but it's the This is
a zero sum business and if you don't win enough games,
you're not gonna win all of your games. Everybody knows
that going in. But if you if you get on
a string of where you're just having a hard time,
you know, winning games, and especially you get you get
on a role as to where you continue to drop games.
I mean, that's this is what the league is. And
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all of us, all of us that get into this business,
and especially if you're fortunate enough to work your way
up in this business to this level, you know what
the consequences are for not winning games. It still doesn't
it you know, because you don't win games doesn't mean
you're not a good person. And then that's that's number one.
And as you say, it's real, it's real flippant and
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easy to say, well you need to.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Fire this guy and fire that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And with you know, but it's it's it's too easy
to talk about it. It's really it's really hard, uh
on on the not only the coach, but you, and
it's hard on the families. It's just it's a part
of the business that everybody understands. When you're in the business,
you know that that's the problem if you don't win,
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But at the same time, it's it's it's hard on
everybody that's connected with you. And then when a coach
is fired, especially a head coach in this league, the
first thing that they have is regrets that they were
not able to do more.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's what's that's what you have.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And then it's I mean, I've lived this life for
a lot of years in this league. When I was
when I was let go at Arizona, I've told this
story on the air before. I mean that afternoon I
had five job offers. I knew that, you know, I
would not have any trouble working again. But it's the
fact that you didn't accomplish what you wanted to accomplish
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when you were given the reins of a franchise.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And UH coach Mack has been an interim head coach.
UH that has, you know, been elevated to that spot
before he became a head coach, so he understands that
part of it too, especially what Mike McCoy is going
through as the interim head coach of the Tennessee Titan.
Let's go to the phone six one, five, seven, three
seven one zero four five Roy and Brentwood wants to
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talk about Mike McCoy Go ahead, you're on with coach
mac hey.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
What's up, guys? What's up Coach mac Hey? Roy, just
a couple of things. Uh, you know this weekend coming up.
You know, obviously there's gonna be two mikes coach and
one another sideline and one on our sideline. And I
look for a lot of chairs for the former coach.
He was a you know, a big Sam's favorite. But
at the end of the good day, I'm hoping Mike
mccrorley had a lot of cheers. But with that being said,
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how will the game call him to be? Do you
see mccorley kind of keeping it kind of face and
consimple for the guys going with what they kind of
used to. But what we see Bo Audigrey swing that
row up, maybe calling plays out and the still kind
of changes you see. I know, I knew mccorley hasn't
coached in over a decade. His head coach, you know,
he had Philip Rivers. It's really talented wide receivers there,
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and I'm just kind of curious what you thought. Soo
tighten up all right, Roy, Now.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Thanks, Yeah, he's already said that, Uh, BOE's going to
continue to call the plays. He's going to continue to
call the plays, and and I can I understand why,
because again, when Mike is coming in to take this
thing over, you've got to administer the game and that's
going to be extremely extremely important. As Red said, I've
been an interim head coach before, and so there's a
lot that goes into that. He's got an advantage Roy
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in the fact that he's been a head coach before,
so that part of it is not.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
New to him.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's really when you're a new head coach. That's really
all the everything that comes around being a head coach.
Everything else you have to do, even just besides the
x's and o's, becomes pretty overwhelming at times. He won't
have that just because of the fact that he's done
this before. But he's already said that bo Hartigre is
going to continue to call the place.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah. In fact, the only coaching change assistant wise, is
one of the ones that you could obviously draw a
line to. And Bill Callahan is now gone from coaching
the offensive line, and you figured that would happen being
the father of Brian. Everything else is status quo, so direct. Yeah,
here we go.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He's not going to make any other changes with that.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Correct. Let's go back to the phones. Davis in Lebanon.
You're on with coach Mac.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
What's up, Man of Knowledge?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Hey Davis? How are you doing this evening?
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Oh buddy, I'm doing. First of all, I wish best
wishes for coach Callahana. I know he's a good man.
I hope nothing the best for him and his dad
on their next menu. But uh, you know what, I'll
tell you what. I still love the Titans no matter what.
They're always going to be my team, and I love
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all the ones involved with our team. We've got a
good bunch of people and radio hosts and everything else,
and we just need to stick tight and continue loving
our Titans, and we're going to get there. We just
got to be a little patient sometimes that's hard for
us to do, but we're going to get there.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
David, thank you so much for the call. And you know,
the fans like yourself are very much appreciated. Ret and
I just uh were involved in a big road rally
uh this last week in Las Vegas and The number
of Titans fans that made that trip, that came to
that road rally rally on Saturday night was outstanding. I mean,
we were there with Jarrell and with Kyle vannenbis. I mean,
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it was it was It was pretty inspirational to be
there to see to see all those people.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This is a great fan base. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And they're like, what you need is you just need
success for rewards, because the reward in this business, as
I've said many many times, it's not the money.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's not the cars.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's I mean, anybody that makes it to this level,
you're gonna make money. All of that stuff is ancillary.
But winning, winning is the is the only reward in
this business. And that's only the reward. It's only the
reward for coaches and players and especially for fans. That's
why everybody is in it. So you're one hundred percent right,
That's that's what I that's what I wish for them.
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You know now that I'm broadcasting and I can't affect
what's going on on the field, but I know how
much it does affect the people that care.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
About the team. That's who I want to win for.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Let's go back to the phones here, Todd in Nashville.
You're on with coach Dave McGinnis on MAC Talk.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
What's up, hey, coach? First of all, I'm a little
bit behind. Why do they get rid of Brownlee Junior?
He was a promising player. I don't I don't get it.
We seemed like we don't know our good stars that
or could be good stars. It doesn't make sense. And
also I'm just kind of wondering what cam Ward was
thinking when he saw the rusher coming to him at
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the two yard line. He saw him coming, Why are
you moving the ball to your left in the open pocket,
to your arm and in between your body where it's
going to easily be popped out? I don't know what
he was thinking.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
To me.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
That was going back to like levis we our quarterbacks?
I gotta think fundamentally, Thank you coach?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
All right, Todd? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, Todd. His ball security needs to be better. And
that's I mean, he said that too, and look they were,
they were on top of it pretty quick. But you're right,
that's that's the number one thing for a quarterback, especially
if you're under the rest. Ball security that's extremely extremely important.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The other question, you know, what once that decision has made.
Once the decision has made to trade somebody, Rhett and
I don't get involved in the reasons. Why we just
report what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, because I mean, we don't know what that reason
is and anything we speak about it that way would
be speculation. I don't know why that move was made,
but it has been made. And unfortunately, the in a
business like this, that's water under the bridge. That's what
it is. Let's take one more and then we got
people calling in. This is good. You guys are calling tonight.
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Let's go back to the phones and let's go to
whitt in Kingston Springs. Hello, you're on MAC talk.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Hey, thank you very much, And coach, I really appreciate
your perspective through this, particularly as an interim coach. I'm
curious to the plays themselves. To me, has seemed really rudimentary,
really really simple, and maybe I'm maybe I'm seeing it wrong,
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and maybe it's because of the player development's not there yet,
But the NFL these days is so dynamic, and it
just seems like we're junior high playbook going against the
NFL sometimes. And I just wonder, if you know, Mike
McCoy can can take some time and implement some more
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dynamic plays or if kind of stuck with this playbook
for the rest of this season.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Thank you, Thank you so much for calling in. Look.
I promise you this.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I watch hours and hours and hours of tape and
have done it for forty years. Most players are very
similar in the National Football League. It's execution that makes
the difference. It's execution that makes the difference.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I mean, you can you can start, you can start
drawing a line between any type of plays that are
that are called in the National Football League. They're all very,
very similar. But the difference comes in in execution, and
it comes in inconsistency.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's where the difference is.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah. And the other part of it, too, is is
what you have operationally to work with. And we've been
talking about this roster is young, high turnover, lots of
rook he's contributing and playing as opposed to a veteran
roster that's been assembled over time. Uh. That leans into
that execution part of it as well.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's time on task.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I mean, there's no You've heard me say this a
lot of times, and I say it, and everything that's
involved in the National Football League, especially with the players
and coaches. There is no, no, nothing that tops experience. Experience,
Trump's everything in this league. And until you you've gained that,
then there's going to be a certain amount of catchup
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that you have to do.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Let's go ahead and take section three point thirty four.
You're on with coach mac.
Speaker 10 (13:37):
What's up, gentlemen, how are we doing?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Section four?
Speaker 10 (13:42):
How man doing good? Doing good? I figured I had
to call in whenever these thick events happened, for sure,
So I call in. You know, I'm a voice of
the people up in the three hundred section. Of course,
I would say, you know, giving these events, the determination
of Barne Callahan is not really a surprise. If you
talk to the fans up there, everyone thinks that the
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higher was preliminary, given you know, lack of experience of
play calling. He probably should have been in oc for
a couple of years calling plays and kind of went
to the traditional way, if he will. So it's no
fault of his own for you know, Brinker and a
company to offer the guy the job and for him
to take and you must have a really good agent
so that would have some experience there. Maybe we can
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just get back to the basics. But I think in
terms of the play calling, of course it's gonna be
you know, elementary because they have a rookie quarterback, and
of course it comes down to execution as always, but
whenever you have a rookie quarterback, I feel you've got
to take the pressure off of the rookie quarterback. You
have to establish their run game and you get back
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to basics and shorten the game. I know it's kind
of boring in today's NFL, but it's the basics. It
wins ball games, and from there you build the quarterback up.
I think that's something that we need to establish on Sunday,
and I just want to hear your thoughts on that to.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Thank you sir.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Absolutely. I mean, you know, a run game is a
quarterback's best friend. But the issue, the issue starts to
happen is is when you're not having any success running it,
and all of a sudden, when the score starts getting separated,
then you know you have to start you have to
start spinning it all over the lot and.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's not good either.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And they've had they've tried to run the football early on,
but have gotten behind the chains on first and second down.
But the run game, to start with your basic principle,
it absolutely is a friend of a young quarterback. Anybody
that is calling plays in this league, and anybody really
that's coaching in this league understands that you have to
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have a good balance between the run and the pass game.
Because I've called a lot of defenses in this league,
and if I knew that somebody had to throw the
football because the score was separated, a lot easier for
me to defend that. Also, the fact is, if the
run game is not is not working, and I know
that my offense line can't dominate the defensive front, you've
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got a problem there too. So all of those things
go together. But your premise as far as the run
game being a help to a young quarterback, that's true.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Let's go back to the phones and talk to Brad.
Section one forty four. You're on with coach Steve McGinnis.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Hey, coach mackay Riett. Loved your show, Thanks Brady.
Speaker 11 (16:25):
When someone takes over as interim head coach like Mike
McCoy is, do they get a pay raise? Tighten up?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
All right, Brad?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know what, I love callers on this show because
we can talk about some real things because I've experienced
all of this in my life. It's a great, great question,
and the answer is yes, they absolutely do.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean I was an interim head coach.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I absolutely got a pay raise as soon as I
accepted that job. But I appreciate you bringing that question
up because that's good insight into the inner workings of
what happens. But the answer to your question, which like
all the other questions that we have here today, there's
been a great call in group so far, the answer
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to that is yes, Brad.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
They get a pay raise.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Jeffrey Simmons added another couple of tackles for loss. Another
quarterback sack leads the team with four and a half
quarterback sacks thirty six in his career.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, well, I mean he's on a tear. He is
on a path right now that.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Very few interior defensive linemen are on. As far as
this early in the season. You and I were just
with Kyle Vannenbis early on and Jerrell Casey at that
road rally this Vegas. Yeah, this weekend, Jarrell Casey, if
you've brought it up and you're spot on with the
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year that he had ten and a half sacks from
an interior position. He was on just about this exact,
this exact path. But as far as to what's going
on in the present time with Jeffrey Simmons, and I've been,
I have been personally with in my coaching career. Fortunate enough,
a lot of several Hall of Fame defensive interior defensive lineman's.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's playing at that type of a peak right now.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
All right, back to the phones we go, Rod in
the borough. What's up?
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Yes, Cam said in his interview the other night that
he's comfortable with the up temple and offense, and they
showed success with it, but after they won two weekends ago,
we didn't see it really anymore. And I know you
can't do it the whole game, but you can put
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it in there if he's comfortable with it, and maybe
keep the defense off ballance just a little more than
they have been.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Hey, Rolph, Yeah, appreciate, appreciate that. Thank you, Rod. Thanks.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Talk Mack is going to tell you is that it
depends on the opponent.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It does. It depends on the opponent on the floor
of the game.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
We've we've talked about this before, which I mean it's
it's a point and the up tempo is something that
you do throughout a ball game, and it's it's very
very important. Now, the defensive side of it is this,
if somebody is going all tempo all of the time.
You know, I've called a lot of defenses against up
tempo offense. It's what you do is you get automatic
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blitzeres against it because up tempo is harder to protect.
It's harder to protect because if you're going up tempo
most of the times, you're spread out, most of the
times you're doing it to throw the football. So you
can go automatic. You can go what we call AFC
automatic front and coverage or BTF blitz the formations, and
so that makes it harder for the offense to pick
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it up if you do it all of the time.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But as a change up, I'm with you, it's something
that can help.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Let's go back to the phones here, Jack in East Nashville.
You're on with the coach Dave McGinnis on MAC Talk,
Good Evening, Mac.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Did you ever work Did you ever recruit in the
Golden Triangle?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Absolutely? Absolutely. I mean I've recruited all over the state
of Texas and especially down there, the Golden.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Run, Port Arthur, Beaumont, all that area down in there. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Well. I was born and raised in Beaumont See in
the in the early seventies. I went to a sold
out astronome to watch ports Groves play Odessa.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And that that that was?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That was that was back.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That was back in the day when Uh, Odessa High,
Odessa is Odessa Permian is who you were watching them play?
Because there was two yeah, yeah, there were there were
there were two high schools. There's Odessa High, then there
was Odessa Permian. Permian is who you watched port hus
Groves play. But I was, Uh, I recruited all of
that area down in there in my college days.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, I figured as much. It's always good to hear
another Texan for the and uh for those of us
to know which UT is the real UT. So I'm
probably missing because I'm late getting turned onto the show here.
What is what's your outlook on the spellow that they've
appointed as the interim head coach?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
A veteran Okay, thank you thanks for calling in appreciate
the call very much.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Mike McCoy is a veteran coach.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
In this League.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I've known him for quite a while.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
He's he's been a head coach in the National Football League,
was a head coach, head coach for the Chargers.
Speaker 11 (21:30):
Uh, he was.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He was an offensive He's a senior offensive assistant on
this staff, which means he kind of overlooked everything offensively,
you know, without coaching a position. But he's a very
he's a very accomplished coach. He's been in the business
a long time, and plus he had experience. He had
four years of experience of being a head coach in
this league, and so he was the most logical choice
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on that staff to get.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The interim job.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Now, when they offer you the inner job, I mean,
you can take it or you cannot take it. You don't,
you don't have to take it. But I look everybody
that's in this business, and if he reached that, if
you reach that point in your career, especially if you've
been a head coach before, you get an opportunity to
do it again, he absolutely it was the was the
right guy off of this staff to take this over.
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Because you don't want to disrupt everything, but what you
do want to do is if you get a new
perspective on it, and look when you once you get
your head coach fired, somebody has to take over to
conduct all the meetings and everything that has to happen.
It's a pretty quick turnaround. And the fact that he's
had experience before doing it that will help him.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Let's do a little Thundael description of the next opponent,
and that's Mike Vrabel and the four and two New
England Patriots coming to town on Sunday. And with the
loss last night on Monday Night Football that the Buffalo
Bills had at the hands of the Atlanta Falcons, they
are in sole possession right now in the driver's seat
in the AFC East Division. Hadn't been that Patriots wise
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in a long time. But it's led by Drake May,
the quarterback second year man from North Carolina. Sixth and
passing yards per game just over two forty four game,
seventh in scoring at twenty five points per game, number
two in the league, and passing yards per play it
just over eight yards per play. Drake May over fifteen
hundred yards, seventy three percent completion percentage, ten touchdowns to
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just two interceptions. He's been sacked eighteen times. What is
Drake made doing so well.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
No, he's just playing within the confines of the offense.
He's playing very well. Is a second year quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You know, rehtt and I.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You know, once our ball game's over, we have to
dig into the next opponent to start finding out. Rhett
digs in and finds all these pertinent numbers. You know,
I do all the I do a lot of the
film work. We both look at the filmwork compare notes.
But to me, Drake May, Drake May has been on
a pretty good tear this second season that he's been
in the league, very very He's a very efficient quarterback.
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You've got ten touchdowns and two interceptions. I mean, he's policed,
playing very efficient football. Rat's the best thing that he's done.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And the impressive thing is seventy three percent completion percentage.
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, and he's taking what the defense is given a run.
That's exactly what he's doing. Plus he's he's a part.
He's a big part of the run game too. He's
a big part of the run game along with the
two running backs. To know, you're going to mention, Yeah,
in fact, his running game part of this.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think he's got forty three yards after contact, and
he has a couple of ten plus yard runs himself.
It is becoming a two headed monster in this thing.
Ramondre Stevenson has been there for a while and as
the veteran. They drafted Treveon Henderson out of Ohio State.
And both of those guys can move it on the ground,
both of them can catch it out of the backfield.
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Both have multiple runs of ten plus yards or longer.
Both have combined two hundred and twenty six yards after
contact in Josh McDaniel's offense.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, well, they're playing a physical brand of football.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
They're being very, very physical and the quarterback is protecting
the football. Those are two things that make your offense
run on schedule.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Hunter Henry is a big part of that as the
tight end in this thing, but Stefan Diggs and Kashawn
Buttie are moving the ball as well. Digs twelve point
one yards per catch, Bootie sixteen point seven yards per catch.
It showed up against New Orleans on Sunday. He caught
all five of his targets for ninety three yards and
two scores.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, well that's that's digging into the what is happening
pretty quickly. And Rett now I'll give you exactly. I mean,
it takes us a couple of days to get zeroed
in on the next opponent. But I think we both
feel like we've got a pretty good handle at least
on what they do. Because when we give you these
give you these pointers, and these tips are these observations,
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it's normally plays itself out pretty much.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Let's go to Terrell William's three four defense with Mike Vrabel,
number four against the run in fact, only allowing eighty
three and a half yards on the ground opponent wise,
and number three in the league at three point four
to six yards per rushing attempt.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, well, again, they're just you know, they're they're playing
really good as they're playing complimentary football.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You hear that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You hear that term, and.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
It's what Mike McCoy talked about today.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, people kind of brush it aside, but in the business,
it's very, very important to have all three phases complimenting
one another, not one phase dominating, just three complimenting each
other during the course of a sixty minute game.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Right, And it's upfront with their you know, they had
a lot of money under the cap and they spend
a lot of money in free agency. One of the
big spins was a man who helped the Philadelphia Eagles
really get over the hump and beat the Kansas City
Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and that's interior defensive lineman
Milton Williams. He has been worth the contract with Christian
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Barmour up front in that three four thirteen quarterbacks sacks
as a team, four and a half of those by
Harold Landry, the other edge rusher on the other side,
the other linebackers Kaylevon Chase On two quarterback sacks, and
then the secondary Carlton Davis Christian Gonzalez, who has had
some health issues. Their nickel cornerback is Marcus Jones. He
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was a two or three year starter at Troy, then
he transferred to Houston and he is a very fast,
undersized corner in this but that's not where he worries me.
It's the special team's part of this. He's number one
in the NFL at twenty three point one point one
yards per punt return through six games. He has an
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eighty seven yarder returned for a touchdown against the Carolina
Panthers in Week four. We looked at him in draft
vetting stuff five eight one eighty five, did not run
in pro das and stuff. He had had work on
both of his shoulders surgically. But he has been clocked
in the four threes. And he returned four kickoffs for
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touchdowns in his last year at Houston, intercepted five balls there.
He tied the NCAA all time record with nine kickoff
returns for touchdowns in his two seasons at Troy. So
to say he's a specialist is an understatement. Now their
kickoff returner Antonio Gibson towards acl game before last. So
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incomes the undrafted rookie free agent from Eastern Washington, efdam Chisholm,
the third who had his first try at special teams
against the New Orleans Saints on Sunday, averaged over twenty
eight yards per kick return, and he is apparently another
weapon that John Bones Fossil and those guys have to
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be aware of. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, again, as I say, I mean, if you, if
you just, if you'll listen, we'll kind of give you
the lowdown on what these teams are doing. But that's
and that again is to my point as to when
you watch the tape, you can see three components of
their team, complimenting one another.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Back to the phones, we go, Dylan and Nashville. You're
on with coach McGinnis.
Speaker 11 (29:00):
Hello, man, I am excited to be on with you, Coach.
I really appreciate what you do and bring the insight
to the fans.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Man.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Man.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
I was listening to Ben Jones talk on the radio
the other day with Buck and Luca, and he had
mentioned Marcus Mariota back in the day, him and they
take over the call and plays on the field. Offensive
coordinator Tarry Robinski in like the two minute drill would
turn off the headset, let those two kind of run
the show. Now, Coach Mack and your thirty plus years
of experience, have you ever seen something like that? I
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kind of just wanted to get your take and do
you think that, you know, with that sort of freedom
could work in Tennessee with cam Ward and Lloyd Cushion Barry. Now,
Cam's a gunflinger, He's got that natural confidence, that playmaking instinct.
I think maybe letting him and Lloyd kind of, you know,
call a few things and get them comfortable can help
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them settle in for the future. I don't know, just
kind of wanted to get your inside.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Man.
Speaker 11 (29:57):
I know some interceptions may come from that, some growing
pains and some learning moments, but you know, you also
get a young quarterback at the end of the day
who's truly learning how to lead an offense. So I'll
just hang up and listen. I really appreciate what you do.
Thanks for keeping me a Titan fan. Brother.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thank you, Dylan, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Dylan.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean, and a lot of that depends on
the maturity of the quarterback and also the maturity of
your center, and that comes with time on task. You
hear me talk all the time, Dylan, not only about quarterbacks,
but about just the importance of time on task for
every position on the football field. But when you're a
quarterback and your center have enough time on task together
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and they have enough familiarity with what's going on, you
absolutely can do that. I've done that throughout my coaching career.
But it had to do a lot with how much
those two together can handle, because they have to be
able to set the protections, they have to be able
to set everything. Can it be done, absolutely, but again,
the key to it is time on task between both
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those guys.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
All Right, Let's look through Week seven of the National
Football League schedule, and it starts Thursday night, excuse me,
starts Thursday night with an AFC North Division battle. Pittsburgh
is at Cincinnati to take on the Bengal.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Pittsburgh's playing good, good football right now, so I mean,
and the Bengals they got some injuries themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
They're struggling a little bit. So Pittsburgh I like in
that game.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, and Cincinnati with no Joe Burrow is completely different anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's what I'm talking about. They've got injuries, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And then the over the seas games continue on Sunday morning,
and this is the Rams taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars
at Wimbley Stadium with an eight thirty kickoff.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Should be a pretty good football game.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Now, if pookin a Coup is not healthy, then that
tips the favor in Jacksonville because pooka Acoup, as we
have seen in person, and then just watch over his
his career since he's been there with McVeigh, he's a
he's a weapon, and he's a problem. If he's injured,
that that bodes pretty well for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, because that that is a totally looking different looking
animal without him in there for sure. All right, let's
look through here. Oh, the Raiders are at Kansas City
at AFC West Division matchup in the noon slate at
Arrowhead Stadium. Kansas City looks like they're climbing back into things.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, well, I mean they're you know, they're they're doing
Kansas City things. They had a little bit of a dip,
but they didn't it didn't last very long. I'll look
for Kansas City to be able to take this ball game.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Philadelphia Eagles coming off of a loss at Minnesota to
take on the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Now, both of these teams are struggling just a little bit,
the Philly more than anybody would have thought that they
would have been. If it's at Minnesota, that's that's always
a difficult place to play up there.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Carolina is at the New York Jets, the only winless
team left in the league. Carolina is really starting to
put some nice things together. You know, they've had Cuba
Hubbard for the last two games, and Rico Dowdell has
put on a show.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, well, Rico Dawdell, what do you tell the Cowboys
need to buckle up and come in here. They should
have buckled up because right now you've got to believe
in what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well. Y had two hundred and thirty four yards from
scrimmage a week ago, two thirty nine from scrimmage against
the Cowboys on Sunday at Bank of America Stadium, and
Bryce Young, I mean, it looks like Dave Canalis is
getting that thing in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well again, you know, Bryce Young has got more games
and more years under his belt. Rout. I mean, that's
just the way it works.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Indianapolis travels to SOFI to take on the Los Angeles
Chargers for a three to zero five kick, and Indianapolis
is playing some good football.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
They're playing really good football. Now they've got to travel
across country, which we all have to do in the
AFC South Division this year at least twice because we're
playing those teams.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Out west in both conferences. So I like the way
Indy is playing.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
You always got a factor in that travel component when
you go that far out west. But I like Indy
in this ball game because they're playing pretty solid football.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Here's an NFC East matchup that these are always interesting
to me. It's a three twenty five kick. And this
team came off of a last minute field goal loss
last night to the Chicago Bears. Washington Commanders go to
Jerry World to take on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
And Washington, Washington was playing a good ball game last night.
I mean, and they they're they're continuing to play pretty
pretty solid football. The Cowboys. I mean, the Cowboys are
so up and down it's hard to know what they're
going to do. But going in there, going in there
to play at Dallas's, that's a tough place to play
when they're rolling Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Speaking of Roland at home against the Buffalo Bills, rolled
all over Buffalo and Bijon Robinson was a big, big
part of that. They traveled to Levi Stadium to take
on the San Francisco for the Ers, who continue to
have a laundry list of injuries.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's injured injured a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I like it landing this ball game because as you said,
I mean, they're playing you know, when we went to
practice against them this year, I mean, they you can
see they got some components of some pretty good players
put together. They're playing really good right now.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Absolutely. And then it's a double header on Monday night
football Tampa Bay is at Detroit, and I'm telling you
right now, Baker Mayfield is playing as good a football
as you will find based on one thing. He is
missing his top four wide receivers and his top running
back in Bucky Irving, and he has been just like
a house of fire.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Now he's a dealer and he's done a good job
of moving that football team. And right now he's the guy.
He's the guy that's holding it together.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
And the second of the doubleheader is Houston is at
Seattle to take on the Seahawks again.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Another another, another, another long trip out there Houston.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
To me, though, as long as Houston's defence stays like
they are, they got a chance every week.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
At Seattle with an impressive cross country trip to beat
Jacksonville in Jacksonville on Sunday. Correct, that's a long flight
from Seattle.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's about as far unless you're going from Alaska.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's true. I mean, seriously, it's like going to London
or something. But yeah, it's NonStop from Bna. It's over
five hours yep, so you know it's way on me. Anyways,
going from Alaska, what are coach Max Keys to a
Titans victory over the New England Patriots Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Well, first of all, you got to control this quarterback.
Drake May is on fire right now. You've given his
numbers early on in this program. We had a lot
of great callers tonight too, so appreciate everybody calling, but
the numbers that WRHTT gave you and the breakdown on
this scene, Drake May is the one that's guiding this.
You got to be able to handle him. And then
the run game, including the quarterback. With those two running backs,
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that can be an issue. So you're gonna have to
be able to earn up defensively to play to play
the run game. And then in the special teams part
of it. You just mentioned two returners punt and kickoff returners.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
That are in the top part of the league. You
better get you better at.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
The special teams needs to be on point, So Bones
Fossil needs to get those guys on point every time
they're on the field.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Well, remind you Tennessee returns to Nissan Stadium this Sunday
to take on the new England Patriots. Coverage begins right
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