December 10, 2025 • 38 mins
Rhett Bryan and Coach Dave McGinnis break down the Titans’ win in Cleveland, including Tony Pollard’s dominant day, Jeffery Simmons’ monster performance, and how Tennessee neutralized Myles Garrett. The show also highlights Kevin Winston Jr.’s bounce-back game, Tim Shaw’s inspirational impact on the team, and a full preview of the Titans’ Week 15 matchup with the San Francisco 49ers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A Tuesday night in the Music City on one oh
four to five.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The zone means it is MAC Talk Time. Mac.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It is Week fifteen in the National Football League for
the Tennessee Titans, and the Titans take their final trip
west of the four that they had on the schedule
this year, this one to Levi Stadium on Sunday to
take on the San Francisco forty nine Ers at nine
and four in the NFC West Division, A very tough
division it is. We're on the air at two thirty
(00:28):
Central with Farm Bureau Health Plans, Titans Countdown Kickoff with
Taylor Zarzar and yourself at three twenty five. We will
take your phone calls in questions as we always do.
At six point five seven three seven, one oh four
to five, and the man's here, just like clockwork.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Eric in Nashville, You're on with coach Mack. Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hey, thank you guys, guys. Before I get start, I'm
just hoping, I'm praying I can make it through this
phone call without having the snaze and fit. I was
fine last night until I woke up between about two
and three this morning to start snaze like crazy, and
I've mislaying I can make it through this phone called
after the station said, Hey, guys, as far as Sunday goes,
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it was just so finally great to have another victory
then long time in between the first one, guys, and
I'm hopeful we can keep the ball roll in the
San Francisco have back to back wins, which we haven't
had for a while, guys. But here's the one time.
I'm really hoping. Both of those victories were victories I
saw on television at home. I want to see a
victory at Nissan Stadium. We have not had a home win.
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We lost eleven in a row at home, and I'm
hoping that at least one of these last two games
I could walk out and cheer and being there in
person to cheer for a victory at home. So that's
what I'm hoping to see before the end of the season.
But we'll see what happens, guys. As far as the
game Sunday, I was really real happy for Tony Pollard
and the kind of the game that he had. I
kind of was surprised that I felt like the previous
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game we kind of went away from that even we
were down fifteen to three, that we didn't try and
run the ball with him more because we so effective
early on the first drive. And of course it was
also nice to see the fact that we didn't have
like we did I guess previous week. I guess it
was seven straight three and ounce that was so frustrated
the previous game, but to see the way the offense
played a lot better this past Sun did. I was
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also happy for Jeffery Simmons his play, especially after being
named walsteron Payton NFL Man for this team, and the
fact that he played the game that he had and
also out played Miles Garrett where everybody was predicted taking
bests on he would break the sack cracking on Sunday,
which didn't happen. I was so glad in fact they
held him the one sack, and that's kind of was
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my question, guys, what do you think the Titans? I
guess it was the game plan and how you felt
like that they blocked him to keep him from getting
in the backfield and sack and cam what was their
strategy just because it seemed like they were very very
effective in how they prepared and were able to keep
him from dominating the game like he usually is able
to do, guys. Is always good talk to you, y'all.
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Take care of We'll talk again soon. Go Titans and
tighten up.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Hey yourself, Eric, stop sneezing now, get well. Eric.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Thanks for calling in as usual, you're leading us off
with some very good questions. I'm glad that you didn't
have a sneezing fit. So hopefully you're you're getting better.
You're getting better with all of that stuff that's going around. Yeah,
the whole the whole time up there. And again, you know,
we get to I get to watch Rett and I
we get to watch practice every day. There's things that
happen game plan wise we can't talk about on the air.
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That's just part of the professionalism of it. But I
know this, the things that they did, and of course,
I mean that was all the talk with people thinking
that he's going to break the record against you, that's
you know that that was never a concern of mine.
The concern that I had is that we would be
able to run the football enough to be able to
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make them not be able to be one dimensional. And
that was extremely, extremely important. Yeah, And the thing they did,
they did a lot of things, uh to negate him.
First of all, they knew where he was all the time,
whether they were moving him left or right, which they did.
They put him on the edge. Jim Schwartz put him
on the edge different places. They were able to formation it.
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The first of all they did. They did a lot
of formation. They did a lot of twelve personnel getting
another person over there. They did a really really good
job of spreading them out. I mean they were playing
some wide nine defense and so they spread him out.
And then when they ran away, they were running the
counter goo schemes where they were pulling guards and tackles,
and they did a They did an excellent, excellent job
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of formation it together, and then they got a hat
on a hat. I mean that had to be assignment
football all game long. And it was a really nice
job by the offensive line, the tight ends and the
downfield blocking some of those a couple of those two
runs that broke out of their clean I mean he
had he had, he had unblocked and uninhibited running lanes
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that he hasn't had for that was a big, big part,
and they were able to stay with it the whole game.
But it took a lot of discipline offensively.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
To be able to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And to me, it was a really really good game plan.
I give a lot of credit to the coaches and
I give a lot of credit to the players for
the discipline to be able to continue to do that
in some really adverse conditions. I mean, it snowed the
whole ball game up there, and the thing that they
were able to do was stay concentrated on getting getting
all those pieces blocked. And really it surprised me a
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little bit that they didn't they didn't move Miles Garrett
around even more to the interior, which they did not
do the one the one pressure that he did have.
It was a game as to where they gained him
up inside. But it was an excellent game plan, excellent
as you know, execution by the players, and uh they
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were able to continue to have the run and pass threat.
I've been talking about that all season that if you
can put a defense in a two way strut on
most down and distances, you've got a much better chance
of being successful rather than giving them the option just
to be one dimensional when you have to throw the
football all of the time. So all of that stuff
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I think went together very very well and it ended
up being a record setting day. You know, not only
for the run game, for Tony Pollard personally, and it
was a very very satisfying win. And no, he did
not break the sack record against the Titans, So you
can take that somewhere else too.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And you're right because I think I saw a stat
today at like one hundred and forty of his yards
were on outside runs and they ran away from ninety
five and bounce things outside.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I was just excited.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I mean, because we talked about this last week, as
you told us one of your keys, and we talked
about we felt like, if you could establish the run game,
that's how you can neutralize some of that stuff with
Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And certainly that was the game plan and it worked.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, and most of a lot of those runs. I
mean that you know it was I keep talking about
the counter of those counter pulls, those plays, Those plays
start to perimeter, but then once they get a hat
on everybody, it breaks up inside. But you're right in
the fact, Ritt. I mean, we sat up there and
watched and watched all of it, and we talked about
it during the broadcast. You know, they're running, they're running
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away from him, but they're also cutting back sometimes because
he was playing so wide in that wide nine that
he was, he was really hell bent on coming up
the field to try to get those sacks.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
To the point that he over pursued a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, and he came up the field way high and
there was a lot of cutbacks up inside.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Also, let's go back to the.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Phones to Ryan and Brentwood. How long you're on with
coach datem MacInnis, I'm mac talk.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
How you got doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Great?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Good to good Ryan, Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yeah, good air for me. Catch Mac. I got my
ideal draft class part of Titan. Could they possibly trade
down their top pick and get a good defensive end
like the Texas A and M guy or the Penn
State guy or the Miami guy, and then maybe draft
Jeremiah Love and then get Chris Brasle, the ut wide receiver.
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I mean, if they got that and the draft class,
I mean, they could definitely turn their season around from
you know, last place to you know, contender in the
league for sure. What do you what are you gonna
take on that?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All right, Ryan, We'll answer and let you go here.
Appreciate your call.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Thanks Ryan for calling in. It's it's uh.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I understand it's not too early for the fans and
everybody to start looking at the draft. But again, the draft,
that's a long way that's a long way ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Clearly, you start working on this year's draft last year,
and that's why all clubs do. But right now, it's
impossible to say who they were going to take a
ret and I dig very deep into the draft. We
do it a very extensive draft coverage, and we just
touched the surface of that. But knowing exactly where it's
going to be, knowing what kind of trades will be made,
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knowing really what positioning you're going to have, all of
that stuff, will you know, determine who's available at the
time where they stack up on the board. But you
know what, keep looking at it, Keep looking at it
because we'll have a lot of time to talk about
it once the season's over.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We will.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And to your point, Mac, we're still fifty plus days
away from underclass women declaring in that deadline coming, so
we don't even know what that looks like, especially with
transfer portal, nil college football playoffs, the whole bit.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's way, way, way too early
to even make any type of determination.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Who will be available when all.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Right, anything else stands out to you about the thirty
one to twenty nine win in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, I mean you know the fact that, first of all,
I thought that, you know, the ball game got very
very competitive because they hit again. Cleveland hit some explosive
plays offensively explosive plays that brought it back in. But
the thing about those explosive plays were really plays through
the air.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They couldn't run the football.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
The Titans did a really good job of being able
to limit to limit the run game. I've got to
do a much better job not allowing the explosive not allowing.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
The explosive plays.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I thought that Jeffrey Simmons played a tremendous football game,
and all those guys along the front, I mean, you
had guys across the front that were going after it.
You made a great point during the broadcast about the
way and the situation that Cleveland found themselves in, especially
once their starting center went out with an achilles injury
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in that ball.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Game, and they already missing their right guard, starting right
guard and right tackle at that point before that ever happened.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
And so the Titans really were really exploiting and they
were attacking that, and they continued to do that the
whole game. I thought that Cedric Gray did a really,
really nice job. You know again, I mean he's continued,
he continues to show up. But the fact that they
were able to make they were able to make Cleveland
pretty one dimensional, that helped a whole lot too. And
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then you know, you got to admit it got pretty
tight there because they had a fourteen point spread, but
with those explosive plays, all of a sudden they caught
back up and so it made it a little bit
exciting there at the end with the two.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Point play that I don't know where that one came from.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well neither does Quinchawn Judkins at this point. The one
thing we did discuss last week when we were kind
of peeling through the numbers is that Shador Sanders had
four explosive passing plays in his first two career starts
of over thirty yards. I think he had three or
four of those to almost match what he'd done in
the first two games. To your point about the explosive plays,
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the other thing that I took away before we hit
this first break is Kevin Winston Junior had a very
good bounce back game from the previous outing where he
had gotten torched on a couple of plays. In fact,
he's a nominee for the PEPSI Rookie of the Week
as a matter of fact, you can go vote for that.
But five tackles, two for loss, two pass breakups, four
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defensive stops, three quarterback pressures had a PFF grade of
eighty five.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, and again he's part of a big group of
rookies that are playing all the time, you know, for
the Titans, and as I keep saying, all the time
on task, these rookies are getting I mean, they're going
to have their moments and you can start to see,
you know, glimpses of what they can be with a
little bit more time on task. And that was extremely important,
and we would be very remiss, and I know we'll
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talk about it when we come back from break. But
the special teams, again, the special teams continues continues to
be a huge plus for this Tennessee Titan.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Team, which somebody taught me, because we are definitely talking
about I took some liberties, but I don't think you'll
disagree because you set it up per when we ended
the first segment talking about Special Teams. I would like
to bestow that honor on the great Tim Shaw Titan
for life for helping John fossil Bones coach up the
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Special Teams unit. And secondly to James Williams, the second
year linebacker from Miami who took to teaching, applied it,
and honored Tim Shaw after he blocked Corey Bijorquez's punt
in the fourth quarter in Cleveland on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I think it's very very appropriate. Of course, you know,
I've got a really special place in my heart for
Tim Shaw because I was there when we when we
brought Tim in. When we brought Tim in, he and
Patrick Bailey we brought into both of the Special teams
and they were both veteran players that came in that
really really helped the Special Teams.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
And they were both in my room. They were both uh.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Special Teams players that were that were linebackers. So I
developed a very close relationship with with with Tim and
with Patrick, and then of course to just watch what
Tim Shaw has done. I mean even when I went
to Saint Louis and it went to the Rams with
Jeff Fisher. We brought Tim in, you know, once he
had been diagnosed with als to speak to speak to
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our team.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And he's he's at everything that you've heard about him.
I mean he's a practice every day, every day.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He's out there, he's in their meeting room.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And and and that's a that's a huge, huge kudos
to the Titans organization because you know, they they have
they have embraced tim Uh. The players embrace him all
the time. You know, after practice, you know, I will
I will always go, I will always go visit with him.
The players will be around him, visiting with him. And
really to have him honored like that when you know
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in the locker room they say this one's for tim Uh.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
They they mean that with her heart, they really do.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And it's just a it's a really really uplifting story
about tim Shaw, the courage that he's shown, the thing
that he's done to raise to raise awareness. But I
think you can't even imagine when you go, I mean,
we're all blessed to be a part of the National
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Football League, but when you see someone like that that's
been one of your own, that is going through those
types of struggles and still being able to maintain the
attitude that he maintains it's very impressive. Even it borders
on the fact that it makes you step back and
look at your situation and think, I can be a
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better person.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That is one of life's reminders of just that. And hey,
you know, today's not been great, but I have zero problems.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
None.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And the thing is, I remember vividly the team doing
the ice bucket challenge to celebrate him and to honor
him when all that was such a big deal in
the summer of twenty fourteen, not long after he was diagnosed.
And he's been battling it for now eleven plus years,
and he has a motorized chair and he speaks through
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you know, the computer and all of these things. But
to have that kind of an impact all of these
years later is tells you what kind of person he
is and what he means to those guys, because that's
the perfect kind of guy for for Bones to have
as an example of just being an exemplary person.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, just just a wonderful human being. And you know, listen,
you know, all all truth being spoken. We brought him
in and for this reason, he's a really good football
player here.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And listen, the special teams phase back then needed to
help and he and Patrick Bailey very much helped stabilize that.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
They absolutely did, and that he was he was handpicked.
He was hand picked very very much so by Alan Lowry.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Ala Larry picked both of those guys, and they were
both excellent, excellent special teams players, excellent human beings and
have just the way that this the way this organization
and really this city has embraced Tim Shaw. Really makes
my heart feel good every time I get a chance
to talk with Tim at practice.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And you know how much I like Big Dubs as
he's his nickname is James Williams.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He's I really like that young man.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And we've told his story many times about losing his
mother when he was a very small child, and just
to see what he's done, but just to have that
application and to do it, because the guy's been close.
I don't know how many times this year, I don't know.
I mean, there's been several times he's just been a
hair away from making a play, just like he did
in the fourth quarter in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Well, again, it's another it's another young player drafted into
this football team that is going to be a major
contributor in the future. But the fact that that he
is that young player is unselfish enough and mature enough
to understand what a big deal that was, because Bones
Fossil has been has been accentuating that all year. This
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is how long it's been since the Titans Special teams
have blocked a punt. And it just shows you, first
of all, the respect that they have for Tim Shaw,
the respect they have for John bones Fossil and for
Renee Stuart. I mean those guys, Yes, those guys have
really galvanized and pulled that special teams together, and I
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think this is a great, great example of how that works.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Any other part with James Williams, he wears the senior
on his jersey because he has a son, a.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Very young son that probably is I don't know, a
year old now.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He does everything for him, and he does everything in
the memory of his mother. And you can tell he's
serious about it, because, I mean, it takes a special
dude to play teams and play it good and make
a big play like that. That is a game changing
style play and it's exactly what the doctor ordered against
the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
We'll get into that in a second.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
There's none better. There's none better.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And then really good at the rest.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
There's none better. I keep saying this, and I mean
it wholeheartedly. It's the best best service from a car
dealership I've ever experienced.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Let's do a little shout out for just a second
before we hit the forty nine ers info today the
annual Tennessee Titans Mister Football Awards were That banquet was
had at Nissan Stadium earlier today, and I would like
to congratulate the following winners and Division one in high
school football and Tennessee Class one A Deron Cooper dayon Cooper,
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excuse me dayon Cooper, South Pittsburgh. Class two A Zach
Groves East Robertson, Class three A Graham Simpson Westview, and
that's Ty Simpson's kid brother who's the quarterback at Westview.
Class four A Caden bag Greenville, Class five A Cooper Newman,
Severe County. Class six A Kelvin Perkins South Wind. And
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the Division two winners Class A no surprise Jared Curtis
quarterback Nashville Christian School About to be Vanderbilt Commodore Division
two Class double A Caden Marrible Battleground Academy. And then
Class three eight David Gabriel George's the running back at Chattanooga,
Baylor kicker of the Year, Tommy baccerro at brent Wood Academy.
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Congratulations to all those gentlemen, and a lot of those
fellows are going to play major college football.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Oh that's a big deal. I mean ever since I've
been here, I've been to that banquet. You know, several
a lot of times. You know, our schedule now, the
way that we have to do our game, our game preps,
doesn't allow us to be there every time. But it's
a huge honor and it really look I love the
way the Titans support high school football in this state,
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and that's a big, big deal. That's a big deal
to have an NFL football team be that involved and
it's being at that being at that banquet. I think
there's over four hundred people there again today, being at
that banquet, you can just see how the pride in
the families, the coaches, those kids. It's something that will
stay with them forever. I mean, it's very very well done.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
There's some there have been some big NFL recognized names
that have come through those doors and have won those awards.
I mean, he T Higgins and Cincinnati has won. Ramon
Foster was one. I mean, there's plenty of these guys.
You can point to Tray Smith, the guard at Tennessee.
That's the guard for right guard for the Kansas City Chiefs.
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I was there the year he was he wanted and
I think he won it twice. So it's a huge deal.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
It's a huge deal.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
And again, major kudos to all of those those players, coaches,
their families for the accomplishment and major major props to
the Tennessee Titans for what they do.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
San Francisco forty nine ers are up next for the Titans.
They're nine to four in the NFC West of very
tough division. They're trying to get to punch their postseason
ticket again. They have been marred by injuries throughout the season,
and Matt quarterback brock Perty is one of those. He
had a terrible turf toe injury. He's missed eight games
this season. He has three to zero since his return,
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and they got a little more of their mobility back
from the quarterback. He had a two yard touchdown run
against Cleveland in their game a couple of weeks ago.
He's currently connecting on just over sixty six percent of
his passes, eleven hundred and forty seven yards, nine touchdowns,
seven interceptions. He had three of those in one game
a couple of weeks before. He's only been sacked four times.
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So there's part of it. But the genesis of this
offense is Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yeah. Well, first of all, the quarterback in this system.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I've dealt with this system since nineteen eighty six with
Bill Walsh and the original forty nine ers where this
system came from.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
The quarterback has to be a dealer. He has to
be a dealer.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
He has to be a guy that can operate it
on all different levels. That's why Purty is that's starting quarterback.
That's why they missed him so much when he is
he is an operator and he's but you're right, I
mean Christian McCaffrey. It runs through him. It runs right
through him for the pass and the run. I know
you'll give the numbers here in a little while, but
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it is it's a huge challenge and it takes a
lot of discipline to play against this offense, a lot
of defensive discipline.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So let's run the numbers now, because get this, before
that game that they had against Cleveland before their bye
week is they were resting last week. It's last week
for bye weeks in week fourteen, so everybody's playing now.
But before that game, he had forced a league high
a three missed tackles. This season, he has two hundred
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and thirty seven carries. That's currently third in the league
for touches, eight hundred and forty nine yards on the
ground eight touchdowns. He's fifth in the NFL with eighty
five catches for eight h five and another five touchdowns.
He's in range with four games left to be the
first player in NFL history to have more than one
season to have two seasons that have greater than one
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thousand yards rushing and one thousand yards receiving. He is
one that has done it before and the only other two.
Marshall Falk in ninety nine is a part of the
Greatest Show on Turf with the Rams, and another forty
nine or great in Roger Craig.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's pretty rare air.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
It's pretty rare air.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I'm glad you mentioned Roger Craig because that's one of
the guys that we had to deal with early when
you were dealing with that original part that Bill Walsh
with that team, and look, those are impressive numbers, but
when you watch it, I mean, it's like a machine.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
It really is, and it's impressive to watch.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
And especially Kyle Shanahan, he understands how to layer the
calls like his dad did. I mean, it takes a
lot to defense this. Believe me, I've done it. It
takes a lot mentally and physically for a defensive football
team to stay in phase with what this offense presents.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Here's some of the other weapons involved in They've had
their injury situations with the receiver position, there's the whole
saga with Brandon Ayuk and you know Juwan Jennings has
played with busted ribs. Juwan Jennings forty one catches four
hundred and fifty eight yards, five touchdowns tight end to
George Kittle, who's had his injury issues thirty seven for
three ninety six another five touchdowns. In that the Niners
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are currently on offense top ten and passing at two
forty two per game, top ten and passing yards per
play at nearly seven yards per It's like six point seven,
six point eight number twelven yards after catch at fifteen
hundred and thirty two for the season, twenty fourth in
average separation per catch at three point three yards, which
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tells you that they have guys like Kittle, like Juwan Jennings,
like Christian McCaffrey who can combat their way down the
field in many situations. They're twenty fifth in rushing at
ninety eight and a half yards per game.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, well, that's what this offense does. Though.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
This offense creates space. It creates space, that's the first
thing it does. And that's why I say you've got
to be very disciplined when you're defending it. And it
is from the onset of it. This is what it
was done to create, to create space, and it was
also done to put defenses.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
In a bind as to playing the run and pass.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
As I say, there are so many offenses now ret
in the National Football League that are branches of this
tree at the way it originally started that it's pretty
impressive to watch.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And speaking of defending, we will run down a little
bit of the forty nine ers defense and someone you
should certainly keep an eye on in the team's part
of this and that third phase when we were turned.
We will also discuss a little bit of the Week
fifteen slate of games in the NFL as that rolls
through this season as we get towards the end of
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the year, and we will also get.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Coach Max keys to this ball game.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That is all ahead as you listen to Mac Talks
Coach Mac affectionately known by everyone, we're discussing the opponent
for this week as the Titans head to Levi Stadium
Sunday to take on the San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Forty nine ers. I Believe Lee.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Company Counting Down to Kickoff starts at noon. We're on
the air at two thirty with Farm Bureau Health Plans,
Titans Countdown kickoff at three twenty five with Taylor Zarzer
and Mac Mac. The San Francisco defense walking wounded too,
a lot of important pieces missing. Fred Warner, their star linebacker,
has been on the shelf for a while and apparently
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he's really trying to work to get back for their
playoff run. The defense currently number twelve against the run,
allowing one hundred and three and a half yards per game,
Top five in runs of ten plus yards allowed, just
allowed twenty six of those all season long. They only
allow four point two yards per carry. They only have
sixteen quarterback sacks.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
As a team.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
They're last in the league in quarterback pressure percentage twenty
eighth quarterback pressures. What does this San Francisco defense, led
by Robert Salah show you on the film, Well.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It's a solid it's very it's very, very technically sound,
and that's that's one reason why they're still staying where
they are even with all those entries. Fred Warner is
an elite player in this league, and missing Fred Warner
that they lose a lot of production. But what they do,
I mean, they're they're the sum is greater than the
individual parts of this defense. They've got eight of those
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sacks come from two players, their two defensive ends, and
so those guys are the guys that are able to
put put pressure. There are very good tackling defense, as
evidenced by the fact of those numbers that you just
you just you just.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Read, and they don't make a whole lot of mistakes.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And so when you're playing against them, you've got to
be very, very technically sound, and you've got to pick
your spots too, because they don't give up many explosive plays.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Red they don't, they absolutely don't. And then the special
teams part of this. It's interesting to me because we
talked about last segment with how important these special teams
face has been in that improvement, with what assistant coach
Renee Stewart has done, and certainly Bones Fossil, John Bones
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Fossil and all the guys involved on the kick and
coverage teams. The forty nine Ers have an interesting cat
in this, and it's a guy that we vetted coming
out of the draft out of Western Michigan wide receiver
Sky Moore. He's five to ten, pretty rarely guy four
four one in the forty at the combine one four
to six in his first ten, so he has explosion there.
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And that sky More they had traded for him back
in August, swapped sixth and I think seventh round picks
with Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Has a ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yard kickoff return earlier this year, and then against Cleveland
he returned the longest punt they've had in about fifteen
years in forty nine Ers history, a sixty six yard
or averaging twenty eight point one per kick, twelve point
one per punt.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, well, sky Moore never did white gain an attraction
at Kansas City. It's a slot receiver. He just never
quite but we really liked him coming out of the draft.
I thought he was one of the one of the
one of the better guys in space as far as
as a slot receiver.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
And he's found his spot now. He's found his.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Spot in in Santa Clara. That's where he's found his spot.
Because to me, he's a great example of a of
a young player that didn't you know, that came in
with some high expectations, didn't quite was able quite to
live up to his expectations in his first place. But
his second place, he's found a home. And he's very
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very dangerous return man because his his short area of
quickness is elite, is elite. He's got breakaway speed, so
uh bones fossil in his group, they've got a huge,
huge challenge as far as coverage units against this dude.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And it's one of those things where sometimes it changes scenery,
couples up with as you say, time on task and
they find their Niche yeah, well, and that's what this
has been.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Experience makes all the difference in the world in this league,
from coaching all the way down through players, and he's
another example of it.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
All Right, let's take a look at Week fifteen in
the National Football League. As I mentioned earlier, all the
bye weeks are done now, so everybody's back to play
in full tilt boogie. It starts Thursday night as Atlanta
is at Tampa in a battle of the NFC South.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Well, and both of those teams are struggling right now.
I mean, you know, they're both struggling, So both of
them need to win pretty bad for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So Cleveland starts the noon slate of games. They traveled
to Soldier Field to take on the Chicago Bears, who
dropped a close one at Lambeaux twenty eight to twenty
one last week.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, and again Cleveland is an interesting team. Again, the
Titans were able to keep Miles Garrett at Bay, but
you're not going to keep him at Bay very long.
And so it's going to be they better, the Bears
get it better to get ready to take care of that,
because you know that Miles Garrett is upset that.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
He didn't play any better than he did against the Titans.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Well, and you've said it many times, and you heard
Mike McCoy speak about it last week.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
The guy an an elite player. Like that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
He's going to get his Yeah, he's just gonna matter,
He's gonna get it.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
He's a walking he's a walking gold Jack, correct, I mean,
without a doubt. And so you know, sooner or later
he's going to erupt again.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So here's an interesting battle in the AFC North. One
team seems to be slipping and the other one seems
to be moving in the right direction. Baltimore is I believe,
at pay Course Stadium's what that call now in Cincinnati
to take on the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah, and again, of course Baltimore is having problems because
the quarterback's having problems, correct, and that's usually what that's
usually what leads to it and the Bengals. The Bengals
have been a very erratic football team this year, very
very erratic.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
But by the same token, some of their success has
been when they got their quarterback back and on track.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well, which I mean there it is, right, that's all
that's there. It is universally.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Arizona is at Houston at NRG Stadium to take on
the Houston Texans, and that defense is as you would say, Jennin.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, well Arizona better strap it on because that that
defense is completely legit right now in Houston.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Because the thing is, if if CJ.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Stroud hadn't had his injury issues, they would be super
dangerous right now.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Well, there's still a.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Record would be much better than what it is.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah, there's there's still a pretty good team right now.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Another AFC South battle as New York Jets are traveling
to Jacksonville to take on the Jaguars at noon.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
The Jacksonville is playing really good football and so that's
going to be a huge challenge for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
The Los Angeles Chargers traveled to Arrowhead and a Battle
of the West to take on the Kansas City chief This.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Is must win for Kansas City. I mean, Kansas City's
got them. They've got the Titans in two weeks. I mean,
Kansas City really has put themselves in a spot that
they're not in very much. They have to win out.
They've got to win out to get in.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I think what we're looking at there is a rebuild
with their star quarterback, and they're not so distant future.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I think that is on the horizon at some point.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
The Buffalo Bills, who survived to shoot out I believe
against the Bengals at home last week thirty nine, thirty four,
if I'm not mistaken, Buffalo is at New England to
take on Drake May and the Papery.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's too heavyweights. Fine, that's too heavyweights right now. I
mean when you saw that Buffalo game, they had more
snow than we had up there in Cleveland and so,
but that is too heavyweights right now.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
In the AFC in.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
A battle of just trying to get something in a
win column, Washington that New York to take on the
Giants in their divisional battle in the NFC East.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Good luck in that one to all involved.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
The Las Vegas Raiders are at Philadelphia at Lincoln Financial
Field to take on the Eagles at noon.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
The Eagles are going to be a little bit raw
too after that last ball game that we just witnessed
on Monday night, So they better get ready for the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
How about this one for a three to twenty five kick? Actually, yeah,
a couple of three twenty five kicks are really good.
Green Bay at Denver.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Now those are two Those are two football teams. And
we know Denver very very well because that was the
Titans opener, and you know what a good defense they have.
And Green Bay is just an overall good football team.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
How about Detroit at so Far to take on the
Los Angeles Rams again again, I.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Think the Rams are probably one of the better teams
in the league. Detroit has been up and down, but
it looks like they're back on track a little bit now, Rhett.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
How about day Canalis and the Carolina Panthers at New
Orleans to take on the Saints.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Both of these teams kind of trending in the upper direction.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
They've both been playing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I mean, they've both been printed, and of course this
is a divisional game, so it's a big game for
both of them, and it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Tells you just how bad for a long period of
time that the Saints were, if I'm not mistaken. Tyler
Shuck won another quarterback start, well, I mean one another win,
got another win as a starter for the Saints, and
I think he broke Arch Manning's rookie record for that
because Arch was getting just killed back then.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
So Tyler Shuck had the winning touchdown run, right, I mean,
he's you know, we knew coming out of Louisville, even
though he was a little bit advanced in agent, he
was not an.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Empty chair coming out of the draft.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Here's here's the one that I think a lot of
people will be watching. At three twenty five, Indianapolis at
Seattle to take on the Seahawks. Indianapolis with their quarterback
Daniel Jones a ruptured achilles. He's on and I are
Riley Leonard, the rookie that they drafted from Notre Dame,
also dealing with an issue, and they signed to the
practice squad forty four year old Philip Rivers, who is
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one of the twenty six semi finalists for the twenty
twenty sixth class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
That's a whole bunch interesting right there in that statement
that you just made. That's a whole lot of stuff
in there.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Minnesota at Dallas Sunday night, Miami at Pittsburgh on Monday
night football. What are the keys to this game for
the Tennessee Titans to try to stack a win?
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Mack, Well, you've got to be disciplined on defense.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
We talk about their offense, and you know what type
of an efficient machine it is. You got to take McCaffrey.
You can't let him take the game over. He's going
to get his chances, but you've got to be very
I just know from defending this type of offense a
lot in my career, you've got to be very, very disciplined,
and then offensively, you still got to be able to
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run the football. You got to find a way against
this Robert solid defense to be able to dent it,
to dent it with the running game, and to make
them honor that, because if you don't, then there's a
lot of things he can do. He doesn't do a
lot of tricks with his defense. But if you allow
them to know that you're one dimensional, you've got a
big problem and you've got to win. You've got to
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win every phase in the special teams.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
This week, there it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Is Tennessee heads to the West Coast to take on
the San Francisco forty nine ers. We're on the air
with Titans count down at two point thirty. Kickoff is
at three twenty five with Taylor Zarzer and the man
of the Hour coach Mac Dave McGinnis. Thanks to Ross
Johnson for producing behind the Glass tonight and all of
those great phone calls for coach Mack. I'm Red Brian.
We thank you for listening to Mac Talk Valls. Programming
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is next on your home for the Titans in the
walls one zero, four to five, the zone
A Tuesday night in the Music City on one oh
four to five.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The zone means it is MAC Talk Time. Mac.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It is Week fifteen in the National Football League for
the Tennessee Titans, and the Titans take their final trip
west of the four that they had on the schedule
this year, this one to Levi Stadium on Sunday to
take on the San Francisco forty nine Ers at nine
and four in the NFC West Division, A very tough
division it is. We're on the air at two thirty
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Central with Farm Bureau Health Plans, Titans Countdown Kickoff with
Taylor Zarzar and yourself at three twenty five. We will
take your phone calls in questions as we always do.
At six point five seven three seven, one oh four
to five, and the man's here, just like clockwork.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Eric in Nashville, You're on with coach Mack. Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hey, thank you guys, guys. Before I get start, I'm
just hoping, I'm praying I can make it through this
phone call without having the snaze and fit. I was
fine last night until I woke up between about two
and three this morning to start snaze like crazy, and
I've mislaying I can make it through this phone called
after the station said, Hey, guys, as far as Sunday goes,
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it was just so finally great to have another victory
then long time in between the first one, guys, and
I'm hopeful we can keep the ball roll in the
San Francisco have back to back wins, which we haven't
had for a while, guys. But here's the one time.
I'm really hoping. Both of those victories were victories I
saw on television at home. I want to see a
victory at Nissan Stadium. We have not had a home win.
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We lost eleven in a row at home, and I'm
hoping that at least one of these last two games
I could walk out and cheer and being there in
person to cheer for a victory at home. So that's
what I'm hoping to see before the end of the season.
But we'll see what happens, guys. As far as the
game Sunday, I was really real happy for Tony Pollard
and the kind of the game that he had. I
kind of was surprised that I felt like the previous
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game we kind of went away from that even we
were down fifteen to three, that we didn't try and
run the ball with him more because we so effective
early on the first drive. And of course it was
also nice to see the fact that we didn't have
like we did I guess previous week. I guess it
was seven straight three and ounce that was so frustrated
the previous game, but to see the way the offense
played a lot better this past Sun did. I was
(02:15):
also happy for Jeffery Simmons his play, especially after being
named walsteron Payton NFL Man for this team, and the
fact that he played the game that he had and
also out played Miles Garrett where everybody was predicted taking
bests on he would break the sack cracking on Sunday,
which didn't happen. I was so glad in fact they
held him the one sack, and that's kind of was
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my question, guys, what do you think the Titans? I
guess it was the game plan and how you felt
like that they blocked him to keep him from getting
in the backfield and sack and cam what was their
strategy just because it seemed like they were very very
effective in how they prepared and were able to keep
him from dominating the game like he usually is able
to do, guys. Is always good talk to you, y'all.
(02:56):
Take care of We'll talk again soon. Go Titans and
tighten up.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Hey yourself, Eric, stop sneezing now, get well. Eric.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Thanks for calling in as usual, you're leading us off
with some very good questions. I'm glad that you didn't
have a sneezing fit. So hopefully you're you're getting better.
You're getting better with all of that stuff that's going around. Yeah,
the whole the whole time up there. And again, you know,
we get to I get to watch Rett and I
we get to watch practice every day. There's things that
happen game plan wise we can't talk about on the air.
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That's just part of the professionalism of it. But I
know this, the things that they did, and of course,
I mean that was all the talk with people thinking
that he's going to break the record against you, that's
you know that that was never a concern of mine.
The concern that I had is that we would be
able to run the football enough to be able to
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make them not be able to be one dimensional. And
that was extremely, extremely important. Yeah, And the thing they did,
they did a lot of things, uh to negate him.
First of all, they knew where he was all the time,
whether they were moving him left or right, which they did.
They put him on the edge. Jim Schwartz put him
on the edge different places. They were able to formation it.
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The first of all they did. They did a lot
of formation. They did a lot of twelve personnel getting
another person over there. They did a really really good
job of spreading them out. I mean they were playing
some wide nine defense and so they spread him out.
And then when they ran away, they were running the
counter goo schemes where they were pulling guards and tackles,
and they did a They did an excellent, excellent job
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of formation it together, and then they got a hat
on a hat. I mean that had to be assignment
football all game long. And it was a really nice
job by the offensive line, the tight ends and the
downfield blocking some of those a couple of those two
runs that broke out of their clean I mean he
had he had, he had unblocked and uninhibited running lanes
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that he hasn't had for that was a big, big part,
and they were able to stay with it the whole game.
But it took a lot of discipline offensively.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
To be able to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And to me, it was a really really good game plan.
I give a lot of credit to the coaches and
I give a lot of credit to the players for
the discipline to be able to continue to do that
in some really adverse conditions. I mean, it snowed the
whole ball game up there, and the thing that they
were able to do was stay concentrated on getting getting
all those pieces blocked. And really it surprised me a
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little bit that they didn't they didn't move Miles Garrett
around even more to the interior, which they did not
do the one the one pressure that he did have.
It was a game as to where they gained him
up inside. But it was an excellent game plan, excellent
as you know, execution by the players, and uh they
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were able to continue to have the run and pass threat.
I've been talking about that all season that if you
can put a defense in a two way strut on
most down and distances, you've got a much better chance
of being successful rather than giving them the option just
to be one dimensional when you have to throw the
football all of the time. So all of that stuff
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I think went together very very well and it ended
up being a record setting day. You know, not only
for the run game, for Tony Pollard personally, and it
was a very very satisfying win. And no, he did
not break the sack record against the Titans, So you
can take that somewhere else too.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And you're right because I think I saw a stat
today at like one hundred and forty of his yards
were on outside runs and they ran away from ninety
five and bounce things outside.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I was just excited.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I mean, because we talked about this last week, as
you told us one of your keys, and we talked
about we felt like, if you could establish the run game,
that's how you can neutralize some of that stuff with
Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And certainly that was the game plan and it worked.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, and most of a lot of those runs. I
mean that you know it was I keep talking about
the counter of those counter pulls, those plays, Those plays
start to perimeter, but then once they get a hat
on everybody, it breaks up inside. But you're right in
the fact, Ritt. I mean, we sat up there and
watched and watched all of it, and we talked about
it during the broadcast. You know, they're running, they're running
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away from him, but they're also cutting back sometimes because
he was playing so wide in that wide nine that
he was, he was really hell bent on coming up
the field to try to get those sacks.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
To the point that he over pursued a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, and he came up the field way high and
there was a lot of cutbacks up inside.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Also, let's go back to the.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Phones to Ryan and Brentwood. How long you're on with
coach datem MacInnis, I'm mac talk.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
How you got doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Great?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Good to good Ryan, Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yeah, good air for me. Catch Mac. I got my
ideal draft class part of Titan. Could they possibly trade
down their top pick and get a good defensive end
like the Texas A and M guy or the Penn
State guy or the Miami guy, and then maybe draft
Jeremiah Love and then get Chris Brasle, the ut wide receiver.
(08:21):
I mean, if they got that and the draft class,
I mean, they could definitely turn their season around from
you know, last place to you know, contender in the
league for sure. What do you what are you gonna
take on that?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All right, Ryan, We'll answer and let you go here.
Appreciate your call.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Thanks Ryan for calling in. It's it's uh.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I understand it's not too early for the fans and
everybody to start looking at the draft. But again, the draft,
that's a long way that's a long way ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Clearly, you start working on this year's draft last year,
and that's why all clubs do. But right now, it's
impossible to say who they were going to take a
ret and I dig very deep into the draft. We
do it a very extensive draft coverage, and we just
touched the surface of that. But knowing exactly where it's
going to be, knowing what kind of trades will be made,
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knowing really what positioning you're going to have, all of
that stuff, will you know, determine who's available at the
time where they stack up on the board. But you
know what, keep looking at it, Keep looking at it
because we'll have a lot of time to talk about
it once the season's over.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We will.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And to your point, Mac, we're still fifty plus days
away from underclass women declaring in that deadline coming, so
we don't even know what that looks like, especially with
transfer portal, nil college football playoffs, the whole bit.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's way, way, way too early
to even make any type of determination.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Who will be available when all.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Right, anything else stands out to you about the thirty
one to twenty nine win in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, I mean you know the fact that, first of all,
I thought that, you know, the ball game got very
very competitive because they hit again. Cleveland hit some explosive
plays offensively explosive plays that brought it back in. But
the thing about those explosive plays were really plays through
the air.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They couldn't run the football.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
The Titans did a really good job of being able
to limit to limit the run game. I've got to
do a much better job not allowing the explosive not allowing.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
The explosive plays.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I thought that Jeffrey Simmons played a tremendous football game,
and all those guys along the front, I mean, you
had guys across the front that were going after it.
You made a great point during the broadcast about the
way and the situation that Cleveland found themselves in, especially
once their starting center went out with an achilles injury
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in that ball.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Game, and they already missing their right guard, starting right
guard and right tackle at that point before that ever happened.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
And so the Titans really were really exploiting and they
were attacking that, and they continued to do that the
whole game. I thought that Cedric Gray did a really,
really nice job. You know again, I mean he's continued,
he continues to show up. But the fact that they
were able to make they were able to make Cleveland
pretty one dimensional, that helped a whole lot too. And
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then you know, you got to admit it got pretty
tight there because they had a fourteen point spread, but
with those explosive plays, all of a sudden they caught
back up and so it made it a little bit
exciting there at the end with the two.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Point play that I don't know where that one came from.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well neither does Quinchawn Judkins at this point. The one
thing we did discuss last week when we were kind
of peeling through the numbers is that Shador Sanders had
four explosive passing plays in his first two career starts
of over thirty yards. I think he had three or
four of those to almost match what he'd done in
the first two games. To your point about the explosive plays,
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the other thing that I took away before we hit
this first break is Kevin Winston Junior had a very
good bounce back game from the previous outing where he
had gotten torched on a couple of plays. In fact,
he's a nominee for the PEPSI Rookie of the Week
as a matter of fact, you can go vote for that.
But five tackles, two for loss, two pass breakups, four
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defensive stops, three quarterback pressures had a PFF grade of
eighty five.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, and again he's part of a big group of
rookies that are playing all the time, you know, for
the Titans, and as I keep saying, all the time
on task, these rookies are getting I mean, they're going
to have their moments and you can start to see,
you know, glimpses of what they can be with a
little bit more time on task. And that was extremely important,
and we would be very remiss, and I know we'll
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talk about it when we come back from break. But
the special teams, again, the special teams continues continues to
be a huge plus for this Tennessee Titan.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Team, which somebody taught me, because we are definitely talking
about I took some liberties, but I don't think you'll
disagree because you set it up per when we ended
the first segment talking about Special Teams. I would like
to bestow that honor on the great Tim Shaw Titan
for life for helping John fossil Bones coach up the
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Special Teams unit. And secondly to James Williams, the second
year linebacker from Miami who took to teaching, applied it,
and honored Tim Shaw after he blocked Corey Bijorquez's punt
in the fourth quarter in Cleveland on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I think it's very very appropriate. Of course, you know,
I've got a really special place in my heart for
Tim Shaw because I was there when we when we
brought Tim in. When we brought Tim in, he and
Patrick Bailey we brought into both of the Special teams
and they were both veteran players that came in that
really really helped the Special Teams.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
And they were both in my room. They were both uh.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Special Teams players that were that were linebackers. So I
developed a very close relationship with with with Tim and
with Patrick, and then of course to just watch what
Tim Shaw has done. I mean even when I went
to Saint Louis and it went to the Rams with
Jeff Fisher. We brought Tim in, you know, once he
had been diagnosed with als to speak to speak to
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our team.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And he's he's at everything that you've heard about him.
I mean he's a practice every day, every day.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He's out there, he's in their meeting room.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And and and that's a that's a huge, huge kudos
to the Titans organization because you know, they they have
they have embraced tim Uh. The players embrace him all
the time. You know, after practice, you know, I will
I will always go, I will always go visit with him.
The players will be around him, visiting with him. And
really to have him honored like that when you know
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in the locker room they say this one's for tim Uh.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
They they mean that with her heart, they really do.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And it's just a it's a really really uplifting story
about tim Shaw, the courage that he's shown, the thing
that he's done to raise to raise awareness. But I
think you can't even imagine when you go, I mean,
we're all blessed to be a part of the National
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Football League, but when you see someone like that that's
been one of your own, that is going through those
types of struggles and still being able to maintain the
attitude that he maintains it's very impressive. Even it borders
on the fact that it makes you step back and
look at your situation and think, I can be a
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better person.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That is one of life's reminders of just that. And hey,
you know, today's not been great, but I have zero problems.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
None.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And the thing is, I remember vividly the team doing
the ice bucket challenge to celebrate him and to honor
him when all that was such a big deal in
the summer of twenty fourteen, not long after he was diagnosed.
And he's been battling it for now eleven plus years,
and he has a motorized chair and he speaks through
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you know, the computer and all of these things. But
to have that kind of an impact all of these
years later is tells you what kind of person he
is and what he means to those guys, because that's
the perfect kind of guy for for Bones to have
as an example of just being an exemplary person.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, just just a wonderful human being. And you know, listen,
you know, all all truth being spoken. We brought him
in and for this reason, he's a really good football
player here.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And listen, the special teams phase back then needed to
help and he and Patrick Bailey very much helped stabilize that.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
They absolutely did, and that he was he was handpicked.
He was hand picked very very much so by Alan Lowry.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Ala Larry picked both of those guys, and they were
both excellent, excellent special teams players, excellent human beings and
have just the way that this the way this organization
and really this city has embraced Tim Shaw. Really makes
my heart feel good every time I get a chance
to talk with Tim at practice.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And you know how much I like Big Dubs as
he's his nickname is James Williams.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He's I really like that young man.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And we've told his story many times about losing his
mother when he was a very small child, and just
to see what he's done, but just to have that
application and to do it, because the guy's been close.
I don't know how many times this year, I don't know.
I mean, there's been several times he's just been a
hair away from making a play, just like he did
in the fourth quarter in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Well, again, it's another it's another young player drafted into
this football team that is going to be a major
contributor in the future. But the fact that that he
is that young player is unselfish enough and mature enough
to understand what a big deal that was, because Bones
Fossil has been has been accentuating that all year. This
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is how long it's been since the Titans Special teams
have blocked a punt. And it just shows you, first
of all, the respect that they have for Tim Shaw,
the respect they have for John bones Fossil and for
Renee Stuart. I mean those guys, Yes, those guys have
really galvanized and pulled that special teams together, and I
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think this is a great, great example of how that works.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Any other part with James Williams, he wears the senior
on his jersey because he has a son, a.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Very young son that probably is I don't know, a
year old now.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He does everything for him, and he does everything in
the memory of his mother. And you can tell he's
serious about it, because, I mean, it takes a special
dude to play teams and play it good and make
a big play like that. That is a game changing
style play and it's exactly what the doctor ordered against
the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
We'll get into that in a second.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
There's none better. There's none better.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And then really good at the rest.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
There's none better. I keep saying this, and I mean
it wholeheartedly. It's the best best service from a car
dealership I've ever experienced.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Let's do a little shout out for just a second
before we hit the forty nine ers info today the
annual Tennessee Titans Mister Football Awards were That banquet was
had at Nissan Stadium earlier today, and I would like
to congratulate the following winners and Division one in high
school football and Tennessee Class one A Deron Cooper dayon Cooper,
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excuse me dayon Cooper, South Pittsburgh. Class two A Zach
Groves East Robertson, Class three A Graham Simpson Westview, and
that's Ty Simpson's kid brother who's the quarterback at Westview.
Class four A Caden bag Greenville, Class five A Cooper Newman,
Severe County. Class six A Kelvin Perkins South Wind. And
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the Division two winners Class A no surprise Jared Curtis
quarterback Nashville Christian School About to be Vanderbilt Commodore Division
two Class double A Caden Marrible Battleground Academy. And then
Class three eight David Gabriel George's the running back at Chattanooga,
Baylor kicker of the Year, Tommy baccerro at brent Wood Academy.
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Congratulations to all those gentlemen, and a lot of those
fellows are going to play major college football.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Oh that's a big deal. I mean ever since I've
been here, I've been to that banquet. You know, several
a lot of times. You know, our schedule now, the
way that we have to do our game, our game preps,
doesn't allow us to be there every time. But it's
a huge honor and it really look I love the
way the Titans support high school football in this state,
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and that's a big, big deal. That's a big deal
to have an NFL football team be that involved and
it's being at that being at that banquet. I think
there's over four hundred people there again today, being at
that banquet, you can just see how the pride in
the families, the coaches, those kids. It's something that will
stay with them forever. I mean, it's very very well done.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
There's some there have been some big NFL recognized names
that have come through those doors and have won those awards.
I mean, he T Higgins and Cincinnati has won. Ramon
Foster was one. I mean, there's plenty of these guys.
You can point to Tray Smith, the guard at Tennessee.
That's the guard for right guard for the Kansas City Chiefs.
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I was there the year he was he wanted and
I think he won it twice. So it's a huge deal.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
It's a huge deal.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
And again, major kudos to all of those those players, coaches,
their families for the accomplishment and major major props to
the Tennessee Titans for what they do.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
San Francisco forty nine ers are up next for the Titans.
They're nine to four in the NFC West of very
tough division. They're trying to get to punch their postseason
ticket again. They have been marred by injuries throughout the season,
and Matt quarterback brock Perty is one of those. He
had a terrible turf toe injury. He's missed eight games
this season. He has three to zero since his return,
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and they got a little more of their mobility back
from the quarterback. He had a two yard touchdown run
against Cleveland in their game a couple of weeks ago.
He's currently connecting on just over sixty six percent of
his passes, eleven hundred and forty seven yards, nine touchdowns,
seven interceptions. He had three of those in one game
a couple of weeks before. He's only been sacked four times.
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So there's part of it. But the genesis of this
offense is Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yeah. Well, first of all, the quarterback in this system.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I've dealt with this system since nineteen eighty six with
Bill Walsh and the original forty nine ers where this
system came from.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
The quarterback has to be a dealer. He has to
be a dealer.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
He has to be a guy that can operate it
on all different levels. That's why Purty is that's starting quarterback.
That's why they missed him so much when he is
he is an operator and he's but you're right, I
mean Christian McCaffrey. It runs through him. It runs right
through him for the pass and the run. I know
you'll give the numbers here in a little while, but
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it is it's a huge challenge and it takes a
lot of discipline to play against this offense, a lot
of defensive discipline.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So let's run the numbers now, because get this, before
that game that they had against Cleveland before their bye
week is they were resting last week. It's last week
for bye weeks in week fourteen, so everybody's playing now.
But before that game, he had forced a league high
a three missed tackles. This season, he has two hundred
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and thirty seven carries. That's currently third in the league
for touches, eight hundred and forty nine yards on the
ground eight touchdowns. He's fifth in the NFL with eighty
five catches for eight h five and another five touchdowns.
He's in range with four games left to be the
first player in NFL history to have more than one
season to have two seasons that have greater than one
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thousand yards rushing and one thousand yards receiving. He is
one that has done it before and the only other two.
Marshall Falk in ninety nine is a part of the
Greatest Show on Turf with the Rams, and another forty
nine or great in Roger Craig.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's pretty rare air.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
It's pretty rare air.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I'm glad you mentioned Roger Craig because that's one of
the guys that we had to deal with early when
you were dealing with that original part that Bill Walsh
with that team, and look, those are impressive numbers, but
when you watch it, I mean, it's like a machine.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
It really is, and it's impressive to watch.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
And especially Kyle Shanahan, he understands how to layer the
calls like his dad did. I mean, it takes a
lot to defense this. Believe me, I've done it. It
takes a lot mentally and physically for a defensive football
team to stay in phase with what this offense presents.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Here's some of the other weapons involved in They've had
their injury situations with the receiver position, there's the whole
saga with Brandon Ayuk and you know Juwan Jennings has
played with busted ribs. Juwan Jennings forty one catches four
hundred and fifty eight yards, five touchdowns tight end to
George Kittle, who's had his injury issues thirty seven for
three ninety six another five touchdowns. In that the Niners
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are currently on offense top ten and passing at two
forty two per game, top ten and passing yards per
play at nearly seven yards per It's like six point seven,
six point eight number twelven yards after catch at fifteen
hundred and thirty two for the season, twenty fourth in
average separation per catch at three point three yards, which
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tells you that they have guys like Kittle, like Juwan Jennings,
like Christian McCaffrey who can combat their way down the
field in many situations. They're twenty fifth in rushing at
ninety eight and a half yards per game.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, well, that's what this offense does. Though.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
This offense creates space. It creates space, that's the first
thing it does. And that's why I say you've got
to be very disciplined when you're defending it. And it
is from the onset of it. This is what it
was done to create, to create space, and it was
also done to put defenses.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
In a bind as to playing the run and pass.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
As I say, there are so many offenses now ret
in the National Football League that are branches of this
tree at the way it originally started that it's pretty
impressive to watch.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And speaking of defending, we will run down a little
bit of the forty nine ers defense and someone you
should certainly keep an eye on in the team's part
of this and that third phase when we were turned.
We will also discuss a little bit of the Week
fifteen slate of games in the NFL as that rolls
through this season as we get towards the end of
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the year, and we will also get.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Coach Max keys to this ball game.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That is all ahead as you listen to Mac Talks
Coach Mac affectionately known by everyone, we're discussing the opponent
for this week as the Titans head to Levi Stadium
Sunday to take on the San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Forty nine ers. I Believe Lee.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Company Counting Down to Kickoff starts at noon. We're on
the air at two thirty with Farm Bureau Health Plans,
Titans Countdown kickoff at three twenty five with Taylor Zarzer
and Mac Mac. The San Francisco defense walking wounded too,
a lot of important pieces missing. Fred Warner, their star linebacker,
has been on the shelf for a while and apparently
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he's really trying to work to get back for their
playoff run. The defense currently number twelve against the run,
allowing one hundred and three and a half yards per game,
Top five in runs of ten plus yards allowed, just
allowed twenty six of those all season long. They only
allow four point two yards per carry. They only have
sixteen quarterback sacks.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
As a team.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
They're last in the league in quarterback pressure percentage twenty
eighth quarterback pressures. What does this San Francisco defense, led
by Robert Salah show you on the film, Well.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It's a solid it's very it's very, very technically sound,
and that's that's one reason why they're still staying where
they are even with all those entries. Fred Warner is
an elite player in this league, and missing Fred Warner
that they lose a lot of production. But what they do,
I mean, they're they're the sum is greater than the
individual parts of this defense. They've got eight of those
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sacks come from two players, their two defensive ends, and
so those guys are the guys that are able to
put put pressure. There are very good tackling defense, as
evidenced by the fact of those numbers that you just
you just you just.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Read, and they don't make a whole lot of mistakes.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And so when you're playing against them, you've got to
be very, very technically sound, and you've got to pick
your spots too, because they don't give up many explosive plays.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Red they don't, they absolutely don't. And then the special
teams part of this. It's interesting to me because we
talked about last segment with how important these special teams
face has been in that improvement, with what assistant coach
Renee Stewart has done, and certainly Bones Fossil, John Bones
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Fossil and all the guys involved on the kick and
coverage teams. The forty nine Ers have an interesting cat
in this, and it's a guy that we vetted coming
out of the draft out of Western Michigan wide receiver
Sky Moore. He's five to ten, pretty rarely guy four
four one in the forty at the combine one four
to six in his first ten, so he has explosion there.
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And that sky More they had traded for him back
in August, swapped sixth and I think seventh round picks
with Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Has a ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yard kickoff return earlier this year, and then against Cleveland
he returned the longest punt they've had in about fifteen
years in forty nine Ers history, a sixty six yard
or averaging twenty eight point one per kick, twelve point
one per punt.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, well, sky Moore never did white gain an attraction
at Kansas City. It's a slot receiver. He just never
quite but we really liked him coming out of the draft.
I thought he was one of the one of the
one of the better guys in space as far as
as a slot receiver.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
And he's found his spot now. He's found his.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Spot in in Santa Clara. That's where he's found his spot.
Because to me, he's a great example of a of
a young player that didn't you know, that came in
with some high expectations, didn't quite was able quite to
live up to his expectations in his first place. But
his second place, he's found a home. And he's very
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very dangerous return man because his his short area of
quickness is elite, is elite. He's got breakaway speed, so
uh bones fossil in his group, they've got a huge,
huge challenge as far as coverage units against this dude.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And it's one of those things where sometimes it changes scenery,
couples up with as you say, time on task and
they find their Niche yeah, well, and that's what this
has been.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Experience makes all the difference in the world in this league,
from coaching all the way down through players, and he's
another example of it.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
All Right, let's take a look at Week fifteen in
the National Football League. As I mentioned earlier, all the
bye weeks are done now, so everybody's back to play
in full tilt boogie. It starts Thursday night as Atlanta
is at Tampa in a battle of the NFC South.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Well, and both of those teams are struggling right now.
I mean, you know, they're both struggling, So both of
them need to win pretty bad for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So Cleveland starts the noon slate of games. They traveled
to Soldier Field to take on the Chicago Bears, who
dropped a close one at Lambeaux twenty eight to twenty
one last week.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, and again Cleveland is an interesting team. Again, the
Titans were able to keep Miles Garrett at Bay, but
you're not going to keep him at Bay very long.
And so it's going to be they better, the Bears
get it better to get ready to take care of that,
because you know that Miles Garrett is upset that.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
He didn't play any better than he did against the Titans.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Well, and you've said it many times, and you heard
Mike McCoy speak about it last week.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
The guy an an elite player. Like that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
He's going to get his Yeah, he's just gonna matter,
He's gonna get it.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
He's a walking he's a walking gold Jack, correct, I mean,
without a doubt. And so you know, sooner or later
he's going to erupt again.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So here's an interesting battle in the AFC North. One
team seems to be slipping and the other one seems
to be moving in the right direction. Baltimore is I believe,
at pay Course Stadium's what that call now in Cincinnati
to take on the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah, and again, of course Baltimore is having problems because
the quarterback's having problems, correct, and that's usually what that's
usually what leads to it and the Bengals. The Bengals
have been a very erratic football team this year, very
very erratic.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
But by the same token, some of their success has
been when they got their quarterback back and on track.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well, which I mean there it is, right, that's all
that's there. It is universally.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Arizona is at Houston at NRG Stadium to take on
the Houston Texans, and that defense is as you would say, Jennin.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, well Arizona better strap it on because that that
defense is completely legit right now in Houston.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Because the thing is, if if CJ.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Stroud hadn't had his injury issues, they would be super
dangerous right now.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Well, there's still a.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Record would be much better than what it is.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah, there's there's still a pretty good team right now.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Another AFC South battle as New York Jets are traveling
to Jacksonville to take on the Jaguars at noon.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
The Jacksonville is playing really good football and so that's
going to be a huge challenge for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
The Los Angeles Chargers traveled to Arrowhead and a Battle
of the West to take on the Kansas City chief This.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Is must win for Kansas City. I mean, Kansas City's
got them. They've got the Titans in two weeks. I mean,
Kansas City really has put themselves in a spot that
they're not in very much. They have to win out.
They've got to win out to get in.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I think what we're looking at there is a rebuild
with their star quarterback, and they're not so distant future.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I think that is on the horizon at some point.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
The Buffalo Bills, who survived to shoot out I believe
against the Bengals at home last week thirty nine, thirty four,
if I'm not mistaken, Buffalo is at New England to
take on Drake May and the Papery.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's too heavyweights. Fine, that's too heavyweights right now. I
mean when you saw that Buffalo game, they had more
snow than we had up there in Cleveland and so,
but that is too heavyweights right now.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
In the AFC in.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
A battle of just trying to get something in a
win column, Washington that New York to take on the
Giants in their divisional battle in the NFC East.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Good luck in that one to all involved.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
The Las Vegas Raiders are at Philadelphia at Lincoln Financial
Field to take on the Eagles at noon.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
The Eagles are going to be a little bit raw
too after that last ball game that we just witnessed
on Monday night, So they better get ready for the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
How about this one for a three to twenty five kick? Actually, yeah,
a couple of three twenty five kicks are really good.
Green Bay at Denver.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Now those are two Those are two football teams. And
we know Denver very very well because that was the
Titans opener, and you know what a good defense they have.
And Green Bay is just an overall good football team.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
How about Detroit at so Far to take on the
Los Angeles Rams again again, I.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Think the Rams are probably one of the better teams
in the league. Detroit has been up and down, but
it looks like they're back on track a little bit now, Rhett.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
How about day Canalis and the Carolina Panthers at New
Orleans to take on the Saints.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Both of these teams kind of trending in the upper direction.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
They've both been playing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I mean, they've both been printed, and of course this
is a divisional game, so it's a big game for
both of them, and it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Tells you just how bad for a long period of
time that the Saints were, if I'm not mistaken. Tyler
Shuck won another quarterback start, well, I mean one another win,
got another win as a starter for the Saints, and
I think he broke Arch Manning's rookie record for that
because Arch was getting just killed back then.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
So Tyler Shuck had the winning touchdown run, right, I mean,
he's you know, we knew coming out of Louisville, even
though he was a little bit advanced in agent, he
was not an.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Empty chair coming out of the draft.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Here's here's the one that I think a lot of
people will be watching. At three twenty five, Indianapolis at
Seattle to take on the Seahawks. Indianapolis with their quarterback
Daniel Jones a ruptured achilles. He's on and I are
Riley Leonard, the rookie that they drafted from Notre Dame,
also dealing with an issue, and they signed to the
practice squad forty four year old Philip Rivers, who is
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one of the twenty six semi finalists for the twenty
twenty sixth class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
That's a whole bunch interesting right there in that statement
that you just made. That's a whole lot of stuff
in there.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Minnesota at Dallas Sunday night, Miami at Pittsburgh on Monday
night football. What are the keys to this game for
the Tennessee Titans to try to stack a win?
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Mack, Well, you've got to be disciplined on defense.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
We talk about their offense, and you know what type
of an efficient machine it is. You got to take McCaffrey.
You can't let him take the game over. He's going
to get his chances, but you've got to be very
I just know from defending this type of offense a
lot in my career, you've got to be very, very disciplined,
and then offensively, you still got to be able to
(37:52):
run the football. You got to find a way against
this Robert solid defense to be able to dent it,
to dent it with the running game, and to make
them honor that, because if you don't, then there's a
lot of things he can do. He doesn't do a
lot of tricks with his defense. But if you allow
them to know that you're one dimensional, you've got a
big problem and you've got to win. You've got to
(38:13):
win every phase in the special teams.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
This week, there it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Is Tennessee heads to the West Coast to take on
the San Francisco forty nine ers. We're on the air
with Titans count down at two point thirty. Kickoff is
at three twenty five with Taylor Zarzer and the man
of the Hour coach Mac Dave McGinnis. Thanks to Ross
Johnson for producing behind the Glass tonight and all of
those great phone calls for coach Mack. I'm Red Brian.
We thank you for listening to Mac Talk Valls. Programming
(38:39):
is next on your home for the Titans in the
walls one zero, four to five, the zone
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