September 14, 2025 • 22 mins
We dig into the moment everything turns: a de-identified teen says he drove through the park for “around four minutes” and saw what he thought was someone sleeping on the ground.
The coroner’s finding is stark—Kane died when a vehicle accidentally drove over him—yet despite CCTV identifying two cars that night, both were later excluded when their wheel span and tyre impressions didn’t match the marks near where Kane was found.
Police seized cars and interviewed witnesses, but the darkness in the park made seeing anything—let alone a body—exceptionally hard.
For Kane’s family, one question still haunts everything: if it was an accident, why didn’t the driver stop?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Approchae production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is more to the story the podcast about the
death of eighteen year old Kine Moore in Townsville in
twenty twenty three. If the subject of the podcast raises
concerns for you or your family, contact Lifeline. On thirteen eleven, fourteen,
Caine was found dead by his sister in a park
(00:32):
just near his family home in April twenty twenty three.
The night before, he was having a get together in
that park with mates. We first spoke to Sarah Jane,
Kane's mum, back in September of twenty twenty four. At
the time, everyone was keen to get this podcast underway,
(00:52):
and it also followed the police investigation had stalled and
the coroner wasn't going to open up a formal inquest.
I guess that's why the family reached out to us
in the first place. They would for answers. Just over
a year before we first met Sarah Jane, hundreds of
people turned up for Cain's funeral.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
On the twenty second of September two thousand and four,
Gary and Sarah welcome their second baby boy into this world,
Cain Ryan Moore, weighing a solid nine pounds seven ounces
He was a true redhair, including red eyelashes and eyebrows,
and this completed their family of four. In twenty twenty,
(01:37):
Cain was given an eight month old German shepherd named Poppy.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He idolized Poppy and they spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Poppy was often found in his bedroom asleep on the
bed with him.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Poppy has always held a special place.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
In Cain's heart and Poppy felt the same. To this day,
Poppy still goes.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Into his room looking for him.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
As a final tribute, and in closing this service today,
let's take this time to enjoy the final song as
a tribute from his mum to her beloved son, Angels
Brought Me here by Sarah Jane Moore.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
It's been a long and wine in journey, but in
finally and nice speaking out to.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Pieces and walking back into.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
A line into the sunset up your glass.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That soulful voice you hear is Kane's mom, Sarah Jane.
You heard her in episode two. You can tell that
she's a singer and is now after eight years, back
gigging around Townsville. When we spoke a few weeks back,
she told me she did it for Kane's memory. And
his memories are all she has now.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
He was a good baby.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
He just liked to be picked up all the time,
a little bit win, you know, didn't like to be
put down on the map in the laundering to play
with these toys. He wanted to be carried around by
mum while she was trying.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
To do the housework.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
But no, he was good. He was a good baby.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
And he was really full on, like into cupboards, you know.
He loved playing with vacuum cleaners. You know, he would
go anywhere and if my friend had a vacuum cleaner
while he would be on it trying to pull it apart,
and you know, doing all of that for hours.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
So that occupied him. So I was happy.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
He was a real outdoors kid.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
He loved being down the river. We're lucky enough for
them to grow up here on the Alis River and
he just yeah, he had a little pe eighty and
he just loved his motorbike.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
He was always riding it.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Even when he become way too big for it, he
was still riding it. Well. He could yodle from a
young age, from a little baby, he was making yodling noises.
Because while I grew up in the country, music circuit.
So I've got a few yodling tracks on my album
and he was just yeah, copying me. And I could
hear from a young age that he had a natural talent.
(04:08):
He had a voice, his pitch was beautiful, and he
never really sung much. He was always too shy. But
I did get him to compete in the Chartershouse Country
Music Festival when he was about four or five, and
he won the anything Go section first prize that was
four hundred dollars cash and a trophy, and he quickly
(04:29):
spent that money on a trike for the yard with
a little trailer that followed behind. So he was staked
about that. Ed Sheeran's song came out just after Cane
Past Life Goes On, and the words to that are
just unbelievable. It's just like it's about him, And yeah,
there's a few others that are really special.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Sarah Jane found some old videos of Caine that she
shot on her phone. He's singing in his bedroom. She
shared them with us, and you could tell that he
loved his country music, but he also was a big
fan of rap, particular eminem when he was about swelve
or thirteen. In this video, you can hear Sarah Jane
behind the camera with Mikayla, Kane's sister, and Kane's a
(05:14):
bit shy making sure Mom's not going to post this
on Facebook.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Looked a turn around. No, I'm not. It's sunny for me.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Last It's these types of memories that are special for
Sarah Jane and Kane's family. They live forever now on
an unlisted YouTube channel. There's other video memories that were
(05:58):
also shared with Sarah Jane after Kane died. Everyone said
that Kin seemed happy and in his element that night
at the park.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
And I've got a video of that night down at
the park and he was dancing around and happy as
and a lot of my friends say, see, Sarah, he
was really happy just before he passed. That's good, you know,
And it is. It is great. It's hard to watch
the video, but it's good seeing him happy and knowing that,
you know, right up until he died, that he was happy.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, it was just.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
An absolute freak accident. What's happened. Nothing like that happens
out here. And we know that no one's deliberately come
to the park that night to do to do what
they did, but just the fact that they didn't stop
it just haunts me. And you know, we want to
spread his ashes, but I want.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
A little bit of closure first.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
So I've sort of been holding back on that too,
and it's hard, it's hard. It just it really devastated
me that he never got to leave home and get married,
have children as a mother. That was the first things
that were going through my head. Even though it's much
more than that. That he's past and that's devastating enough,
(07:13):
but just that he never got to get married, have children, well,
I he was robbed of his adulthood. Yeah, it tears
me apart. And the day of his funeral was so hard,
just having to seize coffin and walk behind.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
It just killed me.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He killed me.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Now, I'm definitely not the same person anymore, but I
never will be. I I put on a front and
I I I I keep myself together, but I'm I'm
dying inside. Yeah. I wouldn't wish it on my worst
enemy ever.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yeah, definitely wouldn't. Definitely wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
But I've got my daughter to.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Live for, and that's why I'm here still, and she
keeps me going, and our whole family is closer than ever.
We were very close before, but we're even placer now,
much closer, and my daughter is all I've got, and
I'm waiting for grandchildren.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So far, you've heard what happened on that night from
Caine's sister, Mikhayla, who wasn't at the park because she
had a friend's birthday party. Kine's cousin Caitlin and her
friend Katie were there, and they told us in an
earlier episode they left for a while to get some
fast food, but came back to the park.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I bought the Hungry Jacks with my card and made
just my apple pail on my phone, and we took
a photo in the bathroom that night, and it says
we were there at eight forty five, so that means
we were probably would have gotten back to the park
at probably nine thirty. It's about fifteen minute drive from
Willow's to here.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This next part is important for the timeline of when
Cain was. There are no witnesses that have come forward
to say they saw what happened. All the people in
the park that night have been questioned by police.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
Some cars were seized.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There was no evidence to connect any of the cars
in the park that night with the same wheelmarks on
Caine's head.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Actually, yeah, it would have been, because if we got
back to the park at nine point thirty, I had
a conversation with Cain that could have gone up around
fifteen minutes, to be honest, like just before, because I
didn't see I didn't even know that Joshua had come
that night until the police had told me, and they
asks if I had physically seen him to put in
my statement, and I said no. So I would have
had my conversation with Cain about telling him how much
(09:47):
I love him, and then I would have started to
feel sick go and land the car, and then that's
when Joshua would have rocked up and done his business.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Joshua is not this boy's real name. We've deidentified him
as he's not a suspect in Caine's death, and no
one is alleging anything, but we feel it's important to
talk about what Joshua was doing in that park that
night and how long he was there for. The police
report says that Joshua was only in the park for
less than five minutes. He wasn't alone in the car,
(10:19):
but he was driving. He came forward to police and
volunteered the information. He was driving a four wheel drive.
This is an excerpt for the corner's finding. This is
their words, but not their voice.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
The driver had volunteered information to the police as he
had been at the party for a short period around
four minutes.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
He advised he had driven.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Through the area where Cain was later found and on
leaving the parks or a person he believed was sleeping
on the ground in that area. This was corroborated by
another witness and through a police walk through.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
If you haven't yet realized what happened to Caine that night,
police and the coroners say that after they investigated his death,
they found that Cain died as a result of a
person or person's accidentally driving over his head while Cain
was lying down in the park. Police actually initially identified
(11:18):
two cars in the park that night. They got this
from CCTV footage which likely came from the fire station
that we spotted as we drove into the park. There
were also numerous witnesses that were questioned by police and
a few that volunteered information.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
They have a bunch of cars that I had to
identify that they had to show me photos of each car,
and I had to identify on whose car belonged to who.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The first car that was spotted in the park driving
near the area where Caine was wasn't the full whell drive,
It was a much smaller car.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Witnesses had seen a female drive around the park during
the period in which Cain was likely to have been
run over. She hid a walk through of the park
with police, but failed to identify the area where Cane
had been seen. A witness, though, had identified the female
driver driving in the relevant area. Both identified vehicles have
been excluded by police as the possible offending vehicle, as
(12:16):
neither had the correct wheel span or tire impression found
prior to and directly after where Cain had been located.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The police actually did her tests the next day and
they said it was a very very dark knight even
on that night, so they said it would have been
pretty much, really really hard to even see with prone torches.
They said themselves that they had strong lights and it
was still quite a dark night. I woke up, Mum
come woke me up, and Tommy that Caine had passed away.
(12:47):
I basically got pushed out onto the randa. I got separated,
talked to and I didn't even get to have a
shower or anything. I had to go straight to the
police station and I sat there for eight hours. I
hadn't didn't even really get time to talk to my
family or anything or have any you know. I sat
there for eight hours. And after the eight hours, I
(13:07):
had basically said, you need to give me my phone back.
I really want to go to my family. I'm sitting
here all alone. I have I have my friends with me,
but I just really near my family at this time,
and I have no one here with me, and I
feel alone and I want to go. And then they
are about an hour after I said that. That's when
they let me go and let me that her mum
drove us me home.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
There's a couple of things that came up for me
while we're listening to Caitlin's story about her police interview
when she was only sixteen. In the Police Powers and
Responsibilities Act of two thousand, zero point four to twenty
one states that the officer must not question the child
unless a support person is present while the child is
being questioned. The rest of the Act says, in plain English,
(13:53):
before questioning police must we're practical let the child speak
privately to a support person the child chooses. Police can
exclude support persons who unreason interfere with their questioning. In Queensland,
the no questioning a child unless the support persons president
rule has been on the books for over twenty five years.
(14:15):
We've reached out to Queensland Police to ask in this
case why this protocol wasn't followed.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
As yet, we've yet to hear back.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Kayla, Caitlyn's friend who was in the park that night,
was also sixteen and was questioned by police.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
She had her mum there, but her mum met us
at the police station. Yeah, they just basically just took
us straight away.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Would you have preferred your mum was there while you
were being questioned by police?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I'm like, I can imagine it would have been pretty scary.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
It would have helped me a lot better, to be honest.
But it's not her fault. It's you know, it was
a very bad situation. I needed to put some big
girl pants on.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
And did you feel like they thought you knew something?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Their words to me was that everyone was a suspect.
No one was cleared. Everyone in the situation was a suspect,
even MICHAELA and Mum, all of us. Yeah, they said
that to me. They said that everyone's a suspect, no one,
No one was clear.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Kayla, Caitlyn's friend who was in the park that night,
was also sixteen and was questioned by police.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
They took me Caitlyn both straight from here to the
police station, and I called my mom while I texted
her when I was on the way there, saying they're
taking me and Caitlyn into to do our statements. And
she met us there and they downloaded both of our
phones and they kept Yeah, statements went for about two hours,
(15:52):
probably more. Then they just kind of left us sitting
there for a while. After the statements were done, they
took our phones and made us sit there, didn't really
do anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
These two girls were extremely young to go through a
tragedy like this, a tragedy no one should have had
to endure. I wanted to know if it's changed the
way they feel about their future.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Oh, it's just made me realize that nothing is promised,
and that you can never really trust anywhere or anything.
You can never fully believe somewhere safe and that you're
comfortable somewhere because you're not. There's always something that could happen.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I always seen people lose family members, and I just
always had thought that my family would just never happen
to me that, you know. I always see like people
lost grandparents and anything. Obviously you lose family members like
of old age. But I just never thought that losing
Caine at such a young age was a possibility. And
(17:01):
it it. I don't know, it just it impacted me
a lot. It also didn't feel real for ages. I
remember the day after that night after it happened and
everyone had left and everyone was in bed, I just
felt so lonely. Me and Kin were like night hours.
We'd stay up every night together. I remember here he
(17:22):
used to come into my room knocking on my door
for a vape at ten o'clock at night, just because
he didn't have any and it just I laid on
the couch and I just kind of looked out the
window and I just kind of hoped he was going
to come home. But he never did, and that's when
it kind of hit me that he was gone. It
just felt like a very like unreal thing that would
(17:46):
never happen to me or to my family. I don't
want the person to suffer because everybody makes mistakes, but
they made a pretty bad mistake. You know, it would
be completely different if they had come forward the day
that they done it, or they stayed with Candida least tried,
but they didn't. So I don't think they deserve to
(18:10):
walk away in freedom because they've taken a life. In
that life, that person doesn't get to walk around this
earth like they do, so I don't think they should
be allowed to walk around freely. I think they need
some discipline. I think accountability for their actions. Everybody makes mistakes,
(18:30):
but their basic, biggest mistake was driving away. And I
really hope this podcast helps that person realize, or helps
anybody else that knows anything realize that what has happened
was wrong that and it's still hurting us. And the
only way it's going to fix it if we get
justice and we know truly what and who has done
(18:52):
this to Kane.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
People ask me, you know, when you find out, do
you think you're going to feel any different or get closer.
It's hard to end that one because I want answers
and I do believe that it would help me heal
just a little bit, but really nothing's going to bring
him back, but it'd still just been nice for a
bit of justice for him, Yeah, a bit of.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Justice for Caine.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
On the morning Caine was found, Sarah Jane was around
twenty five minutes away from the park and where Caine lived.
She was told by her sister's husband that Cain had
been found and that twenty five minute journey would have
been the worst.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I was, yeah, pretty much put a dress on and
came straight out to Rupert's Wood to here Cain's family home,
where Mikayla and my sister were waiting for me. And
I wanted to go into the park, but they wouldn't
let me.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Because they had it all blocked often.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
And they just had him on the ground with a
blanket over it. But I didn't eve and get to
go anywhere near the park, so I just came here
and waited for my husband to arrive Gary, and I
just was dreaded seeing him walk through the door and
the whole three of us were just hugging me crying.
But ages just hearing my husband's cry. God still haunts me.
(20:25):
I hear it in my head and I just start
crying all the time because I know that he's the
only other one that knows how I'm feeling, you know,
and out of everyone, he's the other parrot. So yeah,
it's really hard. It just plays over and over in
(20:45):
my mind Gary walking through the door and just crying
out loud because it's not something he does. It feels
something's dying inside me. I feel like I'm never going
to be the same again. And I know that I'll
learned to move on, and I know there's going to
be other chapters and things to look forward to, as
(21:07):
I said, grandchildren one day, but I just right now,
I feel like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Just so sad, so gutted.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Not if I could, I if I could bring him
back to life. I know I can't, but if I could,
and me go in his place, I would do it
like that only for my children, but I would do
it in a heartbeat to bring him back because he
hasn't lived his life. He hasn't, you know I have.
I've been lucky in my forties, you know. If I
(21:48):
could swap places with him, which I know is not possible,
but that's what I thought a lot when he died.
When he passed, it's all I could think about a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I just couldn't leave it.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I just kept thinking that I was going to wake
up from this bad dream soon. But yeah, each day I.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Was wrong.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Yeah, I'm not going to wake up from this. It's real.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It's real.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Next time on more to the story.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
So, I was thinking that he'd been king hit by someone.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
That's that's what I thought.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I remember when we heard that he'd been run over
by a car, we all just yelled out.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
We just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Because I just I go over and over in my head,
the car going over him, and it's it's it's horrible.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
It's horrible. I have to try and.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Get past that and and not think about that, but
it's really hard.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah,
Approchae production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is more to the story the podcast about the
death of eighteen year old Kine Moore in Townsville in
twenty twenty three. If the subject of the podcast raises
concerns for you or your family, contact Lifeline. On thirteen eleven, fourteen,
Caine was found dead by his sister in a park
(00:32):
just near his family home in April twenty twenty three.
The night before, he was having a get together in
that park with mates. We first spoke to Sarah Jane,
Kane's mum, back in September of twenty twenty four. At
the time, everyone was keen to get this podcast underway,
(00:52):
and it also followed the police investigation had stalled and
the coroner wasn't going to open up a formal inquest.
I guess that's why the family reached out to us
in the first place. They would for answers. Just over
a year before we first met Sarah Jane, hundreds of
people turned up for Cain's funeral.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
On the twenty second of September two thousand and four,
Gary and Sarah welcome their second baby boy into this world,
Cain Ryan Moore, weighing a solid nine pounds seven ounces
He was a true redhair, including red eyelashes and eyebrows,
and this completed their family of four. In twenty twenty,
(01:37):
Cain was given an eight month old German shepherd named Poppy.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He idolized Poppy and they spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Poppy was often found in his bedroom asleep on the
bed with him.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Poppy has always held a special place.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
In Cain's heart and Poppy felt the same. To this day,
Poppy still goes.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Into his room looking for him.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
As a final tribute, and in closing this service today,
let's take this time to enjoy the final song as
a tribute from his mum to her beloved son, Angels
Brought Me here by Sarah Jane Moore.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
It's been a long and wine in journey, but in
finally and nice speaking out to.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Pieces and walking back into.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
A line into the sunset up your glass.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That soulful voice you hear is Kane's mom, Sarah Jane.
You heard her in episode two. You can tell that
she's a singer and is now after eight years, back
gigging around Townsville. When we spoke a few weeks back,
she told me she did it for Kane's memory. And
his memories are all she has now.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
He was a good baby.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
He just liked to be picked up all the time,
a little bit win, you know, didn't like to be
put down on the map in the laundering to play
with these toys. He wanted to be carried around by
mum while she was trying.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
To do the housework.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
But no, he was good. He was a good baby.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
And he was really full on, like into cupboards, you know.
He loved playing with vacuum cleaners. You know, he would
go anywhere and if my friend had a vacuum cleaner
while he would be on it trying to pull it apart,
and you know, doing all of that for hours.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
So that occupied him. So I was happy.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
He was a real outdoors kid.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
He loved being down the river. We're lucky enough for
them to grow up here on the Alis River and
he just yeah, he had a little pe eighty and
he just loved his motorbike.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
He was always riding it.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Even when he become way too big for it, he
was still riding it. Well. He could yodle from a
young age, from a little baby, he was making yodling noises.
Because while I grew up in the country, music circuit.
So I've got a few yodling tracks on my album
and he was just yeah, copying me. And I could
hear from a young age that he had a natural talent.
(04:08):
He had a voice, his pitch was beautiful, and he
never really sung much. He was always too shy. But
I did get him to compete in the Chartershouse Country
Music Festival when he was about four or five, and
he won the anything Go section first prize that was
four hundred dollars cash and a trophy, and he quickly
(04:29):
spent that money on a trike for the yard with
a little trailer that followed behind. So he was staked
about that. Ed Sheeran's song came out just after Cane
Past Life Goes On, and the words to that are
just unbelievable. It's just like it's about him, And yeah,
there's a few others that are really special.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Sarah Jane found some old videos of Caine that she
shot on her phone. He's singing in his bedroom. She
shared them with us, and you could tell that he
loved his country music, but he also was a big
fan of rap, particular eminem when he was about swelve
or thirteen. In this video, you can hear Sarah Jane
behind the camera with Mikayla, Kane's sister, and Kane's a
(05:14):
bit shy making sure Mom's not going to post this
on Facebook.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Looked a turn around. No, I'm not. It's sunny for me.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Last It's these types of memories that are special for
Sarah Jane and Kane's family. They live forever now on
an unlisted YouTube channel. There's other video memories that were
(05:58):
also shared with Sarah Jane after Kane died. Everyone said
that Kin seemed happy and in his element that night
at the park.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
And I've got a video of that night down at
the park and he was dancing around and happy as
and a lot of my friends say, see, Sarah, he
was really happy just before he passed. That's good, you know,
And it is. It is great. It's hard to watch
the video, but it's good seeing him happy and knowing that,
you know, right up until he died, that he was happy.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, it was just.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
An absolute freak accident. What's happened. Nothing like that happens
out here. And we know that no one's deliberately come
to the park that night to do to do what
they did, but just the fact that they didn't stop
it just haunts me. And you know, we want to
spread his ashes, but I want.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
A little bit of closure first.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
So I've sort of been holding back on that too,
and it's hard, it's hard. It just it really devastated
me that he never got to leave home and get married,
have children as a mother. That was the first things
that were going through my head. Even though it's much
more than that. That he's past and that's devastating enough,
(07:13):
but just that he never got to get married, have children, well,
I he was robbed of his adulthood. Yeah, it tears
me apart. And the day of his funeral was so hard,
just having to seize coffin and walk behind.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
It just killed me.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He killed me.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Now, I'm definitely not the same person anymore, but I
never will be. I I put on a front and
I I I I keep myself together, but I'm I'm
dying inside. Yeah. I wouldn't wish it on my worst
enemy ever.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yeah, definitely wouldn't. Definitely wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
But I've got my daughter to.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Live for, and that's why I'm here still, and she
keeps me going, and our whole family is closer than ever.
We were very close before, but we're even placer now,
much closer, and my daughter is all I've got, and
I'm waiting for grandchildren.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So far, you've heard what happened on that night from
Caine's sister, Mikhayla, who wasn't at the park because she
had a friend's birthday party. Kine's cousin Caitlin and her
friend Katie were there, and they told us in an
earlier episode they left for a while to get some
fast food, but came back to the park.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I bought the Hungry Jacks with my card and made
just my apple pail on my phone, and we took
a photo in the bathroom that night, and it says
we were there at eight forty five, so that means
we were probably would have gotten back to the park
at probably nine thirty. It's about fifteen minute drive from
Willow's to here.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This next part is important for the timeline of when
Cain was. There are no witnesses that have come forward
to say they saw what happened. All the people in
the park that night have been questioned by police.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
Some cars were seized.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There was no evidence to connect any of the cars
in the park that night with the same wheelmarks on
Caine's head.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Actually, yeah, it would have been, because if we got
back to the park at nine point thirty, I had
a conversation with Cain that could have gone up around
fifteen minutes, to be honest, like just before, because I
didn't see I didn't even know that Joshua had come
that night until the police had told me, and they
asks if I had physically seen him to put in
my statement, and I said no. So I would have
had my conversation with Cain about telling him how much
(09:47):
I love him, and then I would have started to
feel sick go and land the car, and then that's
when Joshua would have rocked up and done his business.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Joshua is not this boy's real name. We've deidentified him
as he's not a suspect in Caine's death, and no
one is alleging anything, but we feel it's important to
talk about what Joshua was doing in that park that
night and how long he was there for. The police
report says that Joshua was only in the park for
less than five minutes. He wasn't alone in the car,
(10:19):
but he was driving. He came forward to police and
volunteered the information. He was driving a four wheel drive.
This is an excerpt for the corner's finding. This is
their words, but not their voice.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
The driver had volunteered information to the police as he
had been at the party for a short period around
four minutes.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
He advised he had driven.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Through the area where Cain was later found and on
leaving the parks or a person he believed was sleeping
on the ground in that area. This was corroborated by
another witness and through a police walk through.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
If you haven't yet realized what happened to Caine that night,
police and the coroners say that after they investigated his death,
they found that Cain died as a result of a
person or person's accidentally driving over his head while Cain
was lying down in the park. Police actually initially identified
(11:18):
two cars in the park that night. They got this
from CCTV footage which likely came from the fire station
that we spotted as we drove into the park. There
were also numerous witnesses that were questioned by police and
a few that volunteered information.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
They have a bunch of cars that I had to
identify that they had to show me photos of each car,
and I had to identify on whose car belonged to who.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The first car that was spotted in the park driving
near the area where Caine was wasn't the full whell drive,
It was a much smaller car.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Witnesses had seen a female drive around the park during
the period in which Cain was likely to have been
run over. She hid a walk through of the park
with police, but failed to identify the area where Cane
had been seen. A witness, though, had identified the female
driver driving in the relevant area. Both identified vehicles have
been excluded by police as the possible offending vehicle, as
(12:16):
neither had the correct wheel span or tire impression found
prior to and directly after where Cain had been located.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The police actually did her tests the next day and
they said it was a very very dark knight even
on that night, so they said it would have been
pretty much, really really hard to even see with prone torches.
They said themselves that they had strong lights and it
was still quite a dark night. I woke up, Mum
come woke me up, and Tommy that Caine had passed away.
(12:47):
I basically got pushed out onto the randa. I got separated,
talked to and I didn't even get to have a
shower or anything. I had to go straight to the
police station and I sat there for eight hours. I
hadn't didn't even really get time to talk to my
family or anything or have any you know. I sat
there for eight hours. And after the eight hours, I
(13:07):
had basically said, you need to give me my phone back.
I really want to go to my family. I'm sitting
here all alone. I have I have my friends with me,
but I just really near my family at this time,
and I have no one here with me, and I
feel alone and I want to go. And then they
are about an hour after I said that. That's when
they let me go and let me that her mum
drove us me home.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
There's a couple of things that came up for me
while we're listening to Caitlin's story about her police interview
when she was only sixteen. In the Police Powers and
Responsibilities Act of two thousand, zero point four to twenty
one states that the officer must not question the child
unless a support person is present while the child is
being questioned. The rest of the Act says, in plain English,
(13:53):
before questioning police must we're practical let the child speak
privately to a support person the child chooses. Police can
exclude support persons who unreason interfere with their questioning. In Queensland,
the no questioning a child unless the support persons president
rule has been on the books for over twenty five years.
(14:15):
We've reached out to Queensland Police to ask in this
case why this protocol wasn't followed.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
As yet, we've yet to hear back.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Kayla, Caitlyn's friend who was in the park that night,
was also sixteen and was questioned by police.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
She had her mum there, but her mum met us
at the police station. Yeah, they just basically just took
us straight away.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Would you have preferred your mum was there while you
were being questioned by police?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I'm like, I can imagine it would have been pretty scary.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
It would have helped me a lot better, to be honest.
But it's not her fault. It's you know, it was
a very bad situation. I needed to put some big
girl pants on.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
And did you feel like they thought you knew something?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Their words to me was that everyone was a suspect.
No one was cleared. Everyone in the situation was a suspect,
even MICHAELA and Mum, all of us. Yeah, they said
that to me. They said that everyone's a suspect, no one,
No one was clear.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Kayla, Caitlyn's friend who was in the park that night,
was also sixteen and was questioned by police.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
They took me Caitlyn both straight from here to the
police station, and I called my mom while I texted
her when I was on the way there, saying they're
taking me and Caitlyn into to do our statements. And
she met us there and they downloaded both of our
phones and they kept Yeah, statements went for about two hours,
(15:52):
probably more. Then they just kind of left us sitting
there for a while. After the statements were done, they
took our phones and made us sit there, didn't really
do anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
These two girls were extremely young to go through a
tragedy like this, a tragedy no one should have had
to endure. I wanted to know if it's changed the
way they feel about their future.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Oh, it's just made me realize that nothing is promised,
and that you can never really trust anywhere or anything.
You can never fully believe somewhere safe and that you're
comfortable somewhere because you're not. There's always something that could happen.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I always seen people lose family members, and I just
always had thought that my family would just never happen
to me that, you know. I always see like people
lost grandparents and anything. Obviously you lose family members like
of old age. But I just never thought that losing
Caine at such a young age was a possibility. And
(17:01):
it it. I don't know, it just it impacted me
a lot. It also didn't feel real for ages. I
remember the day after that night after it happened and
everyone had left and everyone was in bed, I just
felt so lonely. Me and Kin were like night hours.
We'd stay up every night together. I remember here he
(17:22):
used to come into my room knocking on my door
for a vape at ten o'clock at night, just because
he didn't have any and it just I laid on
the couch and I just kind of looked out the
window and I just kind of hoped he was going
to come home. But he never did, and that's when
it kind of hit me that he was gone. It
just felt like a very like unreal thing that would
(17:46):
never happen to me or to my family. I don't
want the person to suffer because everybody makes mistakes, but
they made a pretty bad mistake. You know, it would
be completely different if they had come forward the day
that they done it, or they stayed with Candida least tried,
but they didn't. So I don't think they deserve to
(18:10):
walk away in freedom because they've taken a life. In
that life, that person doesn't get to walk around this
earth like they do, so I don't think they should
be allowed to walk around freely. I think they need
some discipline. I think accountability for their actions. Everybody makes mistakes,
(18:30):
but their basic, biggest mistake was driving away. And I
really hope this podcast helps that person realize, or helps
anybody else that knows anything realize that what has happened
was wrong that and it's still hurting us. And the
only way it's going to fix it if we get
justice and we know truly what and who has done
(18:52):
this to Kane.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
People ask me, you know, when you find out, do
you think you're going to feel any different or get closer.
It's hard to end that one because I want answers
and I do believe that it would help me heal
just a little bit, but really nothing's going to bring
him back, but it'd still just been nice for a
bit of justice for him, Yeah, a bit of.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Justice for Caine.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
On the morning Caine was found, Sarah Jane was around
twenty five minutes away from the park and where Caine lived.
She was told by her sister's husband that Cain had
been found and that twenty five minute journey would have
been the worst.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I was, yeah, pretty much put a dress on and
came straight out to Rupert's Wood to here Cain's family home,
where Mikayla and my sister were waiting for me. And
I wanted to go into the park, but they wouldn't
let me.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Because they had it all blocked often.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
And they just had him on the ground with a
blanket over it. But I didn't eve and get to
go anywhere near the park, so I just came here
and waited for my husband to arrive Gary, and I
just was dreaded seeing him walk through the door and
the whole three of us were just hugging me crying.
But ages just hearing my husband's cry. God still haunts me.
(20:25):
I hear it in my head and I just start
crying all the time because I know that he's the
only other one that knows how I'm feeling, you know,
and out of everyone, he's the other parrot. So yeah,
it's really hard. It just plays over and over in
(20:45):
my mind Gary walking through the door and just crying
out loud because it's not something he does. It feels
something's dying inside me. I feel like I'm never going
to be the same again. And I know that I'll
learned to move on, and I know there's going to
be other chapters and things to look forward to, as
(21:07):
I said, grandchildren one day, but I just right now,
I feel like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Just so sad, so gutted.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Not if I could, I if I could bring him
back to life. I know I can't, but if I could,
and me go in his place, I would do it
like that only for my children, but I would do
it in a heartbeat to bring him back because he
hasn't lived his life. He hasn't, you know I have.
I've been lucky in my forties, you know. If I
(21:48):
could swap places with him, which I know is not possible,
but that's what I thought a lot when he died.
When he passed, it's all I could think about a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I just couldn't leave it.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I just kept thinking that I was going to wake
up from this bad dream soon. But yeah, each day I.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Was wrong.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Yeah, I'm not going to wake up from this. It's real.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It's real.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Next time on more to the story.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
So, I was thinking that he'd been king hit by someone.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
That's that's what I thought.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I remember when we heard that he'd been run over
by a car, we all just yelled out.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
We just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Because I just I go over and over in my head,
the car going over him, and it's it's it's horrible.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
It's horrible. I have to try and.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Get past that and and not think about that, but
it's really hard.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah,
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