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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to a mom with mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to
do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello and welcome to Nothing to Air. The podcast solves
fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell
and every week I chat to an expert who helps
us work out how to get more out of the
clothes you already own and tells us exactly what is
and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Now this week
is exciting because we are going to fix everything for you.
(00:46):
That's a big statement. But returning to the podcast is
Donnie Galela. He is a stylist for very very fancy
celebrities and everyday women like you and me, and he
takes some shopping, He goes through their wardrobes, he listens
to their questions and fixes their problems. So, first of all,
we're going to go through Donnie's DMS and it's the
most common questions he gets about getting dressed and shopping.
(01:08):
And then it's your turn. We crowd saw some questions
from the Nothing to Wear community, and Donnie is going
to help us there with some fantastic questions and even
better answers. So let's get into it. Darling Donnie, Hello, Hello,
so good to see you. We've been chatting so much
before we started filming, but it's official. You're back on
nothing to wear. So I'm not going to ask you
(01:29):
any personal style questions because we've got so many questions
to throw at you. You're a stylist for both fancy
fancy celebrities and just everyday wonderful women, and so you
get a lot of questions.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I'm sure I do.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I do want to take your phone and go through
your Instagram DM and welcome. I don't know what I know,
but you know what, I'm sure you get some common
ones that you get more than others. So let's go
through those and help everyone get dressed. So the first
one is can I still wear skinny jeans? All these
loose styles just don't flatter me.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I've only got a dollar for every time I got
asked this question. I'm really there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Look, loose jeans, baggy jeans are a trend, but if
you put them on and you feel frumpy, you don't
feel good, then don't wear them.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Keep winning, keep wearing your skinny jeans.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Because you're going to wear your skin jeans, you're gonna
feel good about yourself and that's what fashion should do.
So don't follow trends that you don't love. So if
you want to wear skinny jeans, rock those skinny jeans.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, absolutely, And apparently they're coming back.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, everything in cycles, and if you look at any
runway at at any point, you'll see your skinny jean on there.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So yeah, so definitely for me, I feel like I
love a barrel I've got a lot of barrel leg
jeans worldwide. I've kind of probably you know, put on
the bench for now, though I love it. I'm really
into a straight leg, you know, like a plastic.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Straight leg is always timeless, that's cheek.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You look back in that seventies and ages and nineties
and its just continues to just look gorgeous. And I
think it suits a lot of body shaped as well.
So if you are on the fence about you know changings,
go for a straight leg.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay. I bought one pair of skinny the other day
thrifted because I was like, all right, if we're going
back there, I just need to see how I feel
about it after so long. I like them, but I
don't know what to wear with them, Like, like, is
there a way to make the skinny jean silhouette More
twenty twenty five. Do you think is it the shoe?
Is it oversized top? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I think because you're going much more stream on your bottom.
I think that bring the oversize to your top. Pass
add some volume, add a bit oversized shirt or a
beautiful oversized blazer, and play with your proportions.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That'd be a great way to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, because I tried it on with just the tank
I had on, and then I.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Was saying, no, I don't love this, No, it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Just you know, it just felt old. Yeah, yeah, I could.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think how you've worn them in the past, and think,
how can I re engineer this and do it differently
next time so they feel different?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, cool? All right? Something else you get asked a lot,
how can I hide my tummy again?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
But they got to die, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, Look, everyone, we all feel self conscious about our tummies.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
So I get this all the time. So there's a
few things.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So choosing clothes that are intelligent, choosing clothes that are
going to make you feel more confident. So anything that
has maybe a bit of rushing, pleating detail, I think
that's going to keep the air a little bit busy.
So for example, if you're going for a plain white
T shirt, maybe I might have a bit of gathering
or a bit of rooshing detail on that. Every time
you wear that white T shirt, you don't have to
worry about adjusting yourself or thinking can someone seeing my rolls?
(04:22):
So yeah, fine clothes are going to make you feel
more confident. You can find beautiful shirts and blouse that
have maybe like a drape detail.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Again, drape's great. Drape is so beautiful, just kind of
gives that a little bit of courage, makes you feel
more confident. Prints.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think a lot of people are scared of prints,
but prints are actually really clever because they're busy.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
They can keep that area you're busy as well.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So if you wear a solid color at my plain white,
you can see where my little jiggly bits are.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But yeah, thank you. But if you know I.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wore a busy print, it's an optical illusion and it
hides a lot more.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So true and more I guess observe the garment than
the body shape. Not exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Absolutely talk about this.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Stuff in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know we're supposed to love our body.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And we do, we do, but sometimes you want to
feel more confident, and if you can choose clothes that
are going to give you extra coverage to make you
feel confident that love. Yes, I was with the client
shopping yesterday and she didn't like a jiggler bits, looking
just for a plain white T shirt.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Now we could have gone a plain white, boring T shirt, but.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We found one in Unison and had like roosing on it,
so she put on, my tummy has disappeared. So now
she'll wear that white T shirt all the time, and
you always feel extra confident.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So yes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And the other trick I find is using statement accessories
because you as soon as I see you, I see
your beautiful necklace and your gorgeous glasses, and that's where
my eye is drawn to. So if you were, for example,
self conscious at your low half, I've gone straight to
your top half. So as soon as you see like,
pull my necklace out, we like magpies.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
We see bling, we go straight to that bling.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Because you're kind of looking at eye level for someone
you know you should be looking at them in the eye.
It's an earring or a headband or a necklace.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
You draw the attention to where you want them to
focus and away from your areas of concern. So if
you don't let your tummy put on that beautiful, powerful
red shoe or gold pump, and that's exactly where people's eyes,
they won't look at your tummy. So think about what
you're not as confident with and draw the attention away
to other parts of your body.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yes, can I ask you, because we were talking a
little bit before we started recording that everything that you
wear similar ages. God, I hope I didn't age you.
Then everything that we will, you know, teens and twenties
is back.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Peplum peplums are definitely coming back.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yes, And there's a bit of a retweet. Yeah, So
is that good? Because I hear some people like that
shape for flattering, you know that word, but flattering their
body shape to.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Kind of good because they kind of jut over us,
so they give that little bit of coverage. So just
finding make sure that peplin's sitting at the right spot
because obviously we will have different portions, different body lengths.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So when you try it on just make sure it's
giving you the.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Right coverage that you want that's not just sticking out
like a little random shelf.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That's used to wear it was too out or.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I don't know one with the Jets, and I think
one of the jets to wear that little up.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Point yes, because I've got a relatively big bust. It
was just very like like a bushka. One more thing
before we move on shapewear. Do you find clients ask
about shape with.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, definitely, and I look, shapewe is there for the
taking and why not. It's going to give you that
extra level of confidence. And I find a lot of
my clients had a bad experience of shape where ten
years ago and they're like.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Oh, never wearing it again. They're in a toilet in
a club and they're.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Like, oh, Donnie, I had one pair back then that
were like the high waisted but like a g string
stye or because it's not my butt that I with
my problems well my tummy and my hips. I swear
it gave me a piesiotomy. It was so bad that
I remember taking it off in the middle of a
lunch once and just putting it in my handbag. Like
this giant guard.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
A lot of men shapewear for years, but I think
technology in fabrication has come so fast. Some of the
shape where that's out there right now. They will give
you the confidence of where you want So if you
want it around your butt, if you want it in
your tummy, if you want it on your chest. So
you choose where you want that that confidence yes, and
then choose shape where cordinately so true.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And I think you can also now get like just
feels like firming or fermor medium.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Or rather I feel like you've been sucked to es.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Like yeah, horse that you can't eat or drink. Okay.
So I'm guessing people get overwhelmed with shopping and you know,
coordinating their wardrobe. So you get asked a lot, how
do I build the perfect wardrobe? What are the key
items to have?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So I feel this is a two step approach. The
first step is have a dtox because usually we look
at our wardrobe and it's just cluttered. You walk in,
you can't find anything. You don't even know what you have.
You keep buying more of the same.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Thing house this morning, peaking through the blinds.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We live close and getting dressed is not a joy
because we don't even know what we have in our wardrobes.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
We keep buying more of the same things and we
never have anything to wear.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So I think take stock, go through your wardrobe, be ruthless,
empty everything onto your bed, and then as you put
it back in the wardrobe, think is this giving me joy?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Do I love it? Do I wear it?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Haven't worn that in two years? You know, donate it.
So once you have a really good wardrobe b tox,
then go through the wardrobe essential list, which we can
either put on your website or we can go through.
But they got one, Yeah, I've got yeah. Well, I
mean I'll give you some highlights.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Now I'll go quickly.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
A classic white shirt, basic tops in all your key
colors that you can wear with everything, A good blazer,
a good skirt, the perfect pant, little black dress, a
day dress, a couple of day dresses, good jeans, good pants,
good bras, good underwear.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh my god, good brass An underwear. Could not be
more accurate because I feel like as women, we just
don't prioritize spending money on that, but it changes everything.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I always say, it's like building a house, right you're
going to build a house.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I already hate my life.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, it's like building a house. You're always going to
build a house on good foundations. The foundations aren't right,
the house won't be right. Same as with your clothes.
I think it's the statistics that eighty and women now
are wearing incorrectly fitted bra.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
So go get that good fitted bra and it will change.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You might crop top that's about six hundred years old
and the lair elastic's gone.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Let's go shopping.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yes, so important.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, So once you've had that detop, go through order,
make sure you've got those twelve to fifteen wardrobe essentials
because once you do, getting dressed will be so much
easier because you have all the key things you need
to pull things together to have a chic, simple outfit.
And then you start integrating things like your trend pieces
and your own things that reflect your personality in your
own style.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yes, because when you just said that list, and I
know that's not exhaustive, but I can picture me working
all those items back or I've got those items, but
I've got girlfriends that are super feminine, but they still
work those pieces of their style.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
For example, if you're not a dress wearer, then you
might have a couple more different pants style.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yes, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, can you come to my detops? Yeah?
Next question? Should I This is so interesting to hear
your posts. Should I have my colors done? How do
I know what colors suit me?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
This could be controversial, but I'm not a big fan
of color charts because I see what happens afterwards, where
clients go the colours done, then they're given a prescription of.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
These are your colors. Then they walk into departments stores
looking for pink, orange and red.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But right now it's like baby pink.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah if you yes, And then if you walk into
the straws right now, everything is say butter yellow, merlow brown,
and you're like, damn, I've got nothing to wear. So
I'm not a fan of having a color Cha's done.
I'm more of a fan of wearing colors that you
just love, colors that make you feel good. Color that'spark joy.
(11:39):
Working with your natural colors. If you've got beautiful blue
or green eyes, wear blues, wear greens, wear olives, and
I feel that's where you're just gonna get much more
joy from dressing rather than being prescribed colors than shopping
and can't find those colors.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We had a wonderful woman who I actually adore. She
came on the podcast and spoke all about it, and
it was really interesting that it's a science. But I
don't know. Maybe I'm confident enough in I don't wear
a lot of color, but I'm confident enough in shopping.
But when she did mine, then you're right. For two
or three weeks, I went to the store and I
was like, oh, oh, that's not my type my type
of yellow. Oh no, I'm not allowed to wear that green.
(12:15):
I meant to wear emerald, not olive, and olive is
one of my favorite colors. So I think if you're
confident enough in the items you choose in colors and
they make you feel.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Good, absolutely for it, and you can all colours work
for you too, Like, for example, pale blue would not
be one of my colors, but I put it on
because I love it. You might put a little bit
of bronzer on and that just changes how that color
looks on you, So you can really wear any color.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Sometimes for me, maybe it's not a great color for
me up here, like a yellow is hard to wear.
I think skin close to your face, you know, around
your face, but on the bottom beautiful.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I always say to people, if you want to get
it done, get it done. But take it as a
grain of salt. It's not a prescription from the doctor.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I think at minimum, no, if you're a warm tone
or a cool tone. So there's little tricks, like you know,
if you look at the veins in your arm with
a veins, your veins look a little bit more blue
than you're cool.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
If they're a little bit more green than your olive
and you're warm, might a purple. Well, I can't help you.
I can we get a doctor in.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I honestly, I wear anything I want, any color, so
I have. That's what performance.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I love that exactly. You can wear anything. You're fabulous,
That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
A question you get a lot. I love this short
and sharp, no pun intended. I'm sure, how can I
look taller?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Great questions? So I think there's a couple of soul tricks.
I've dressed a lot of gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Women, Samantha Jade, Danny Minogue, just a boy and they
a little bit more on the petite Danny's fragrance.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Danny, Sorry, Carl Fragrance launched a few weeks ago, and
I've met her a couple of times, but I forget
she's a literal doll. She is, I'm one hundred and
sixty three centimeters. We were both in heels, but she
was like up to hear on me. I forget that.
The minogues are so tiny.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So let's take a little leaf out of that book
and some things that they do is Number one, always
a nude pump, especially a nude platform pumps. So Brenda Carpenter,
for example, great example, gets around a little nude pump
platform because it's yeah, exactly, it kind of blends in
with your leg, so therefore makes your leg look longer,
makes you look taller. I think ankle straps kind of
cut your leg off at an awkward spot. Ankle boots
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as well, kind of cut your leg off at an
awkward spot. Take a leaf at Aaron Grande's book when
she used to do the high ponies, because wearing your
hair out high creates this illusion of extra heights. High
barn a high pony, it's just going to elongate as well.
And when it comes to clothes, vertical prints, vertical stripes,
anything that has anything that runs vertical. So if you're
looking at a beautiful geometric print, as long as that
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print is running up and down.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So if your high kind of like that when you look.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, so you know all those beautiful kind of border
prints that are in at the moment, they create beautiful
vertical lines on your body and they will elongate you
make you look tall.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
And also, color blocking is good.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
So if you were in the same color head to toe,
that will create this illusion of extra height.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But if you're not visually breaking, you're.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Not exactly because if you cut yourself they wore a
white top and a black bottom, you're cutting yourself into
two blocks of color. But if you wore the same
color head to toe, you're looking long and elongating, which
is what we want to do.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I want that. I find for me, if I wear
a high waisted long jean, that makes me look tall.
I mean it makes my legs look really long, and
then this part looks that big, but overall it just
makes me look longer. Yes, maybe not taller, but maybe
I think it's the jeans are probably you know, a
dark denim. You go, WHOA, she's got long legs, so
you think she's tall.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
That's another great little trick too.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, I'm a busy mum and I work and juggle life.
I swear I didn't write this. What key artem should
I have in my wardrobe? I feel like I have
nothing to wear. I can so relate to this because
I do have a lot of lovely clothes, but day
to day why I was running late today, you know,
dropping my son to school. I just throw stuff on
at the start of the day, thinking oh, I look
nice later, and then I just end up being You
(15:50):
see me also at the local shops a lot, so
you know what I look like most of the time.
So how do we help these juggling moms or just
busy women to feel good in what they're getting around in.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I guess this kind of links back to the last
question about having those wardrobe essentials and making sure you've
got those key fifteen twenty items you will never struggle
with what to wear, but also choosing pieces that are
very versatile, Like if you are going to buy that
little black dress and it's lacey or sequence, that's obviously
a nighttime but if you just choose a nice black
knit dress, then that could be worn during the day
with a pair of sandals or at night with a
(16:23):
pair of heels. So choosing a versatile pieces that go
to Shirt dresses are great shirt dresses from day to night.
Dropping the kids off in a shirt dress and you've
gone on a hot date and night.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Add some heels and you go to date night.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I love a shirt dress.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Shirt dresses are one of the most versatile drop.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But now the weather's good.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, het dresses and shirt dresses, I think two of
the best dolls that are so versatile. And then obviously,
you know I mentioned that that same mum who might
be going to work, she might be wearing a suit,
but don't just think of that as a suit for work.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
That jacket can then be paired with a singlet and
a pair of jeans and wear it on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
So don't categorize your wardrobe and think, oh, that's my
work wardrobe, that's my weekend wardrobe. No, your wardrobe should
just be wardrobe that is versatile, that can be worn
day and night, work, dinner, date, dropping the kids off.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, so that's important, I guess when you're shopping because
there's you know, still, well, there's some suits that are
very like I am a corporate suit. But then there's
some tailoring and suits that are definitely and all are
but corporate appropriate.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But then yeah, and like for example, a brand like
to Cuba, they do some suiting which kind of picular,
but some of the suiting is perfect because you can
literally wear it casually but then dress up and wear
it to the boardroom if you have to go to
work meeting as well.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
So yeah, so you're right.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So rather than choosing a suit that looks very suity,
choose that suit that's a little bit more relaxed and
maybe you can get away on the weekends or to
the boardroom.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
The black dress thing made me think. I recently went
to the basic sample sale and or wearhouse sale and
I got this black like I don't know their fabric.
It's not shiny, but it's not cotton, and it's a
black V neck kind of shifty to their pockets. And
I throw it on to take my son to school
because I can wear a black bar under it. I
wear it with heels, it's got pockets, I put a
denim jacket, I put sequinsh So true, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Not having.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Dress that is just truly versatile, right game change and
that right blazer because watch, you have all these pieces
literally could wear it anywhere and everywhere.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
My one tip, and I'm not the right person to
give this advice, is I've plugged my steamer in in
the laundry, which is also one of the bathrooms, and
it's there because if I have to get the steamer
and fill it with water and it's not going to happen.
So now it's like right running out the door. I
go downstairs, steam seam steams, throw it on out exactly.
Otherwise I just won't wear the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I find that even as a stylist, I have to
have my iron set up in a room so every time,
and the water there and all these things, set all
the things exactly so once it's up, you're more inclined
to iron steam, which helps a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
All right, last sneaky look in your dms, and then
we're going to throw to the nothing to air community
that we're crowdsauced. So a DM, you get a lot.
I go shopping and come home empty handed. Gosh, I
wish that was me. What am I doing wrong? Tips
to shop more effectively?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, that's a good one, now, I feel when we're
going shopping We almost go a bit on autopilot where
we go to our local shopping center, we go back
to the same brands we always go back to. We
buy the same shapes, the same colors, same same saying.
So my challenge to you is, next time you are shopping,
you're looking something, go to a completely different shopping center,
one that you would not usually go to. Okay, then
challenge yourself to go into shops that you may.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Not usually go into.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Es And I want you to think of brands and
shops a bit like Taylor Swift. And what I mean
is Taylor Swift has different eras, right, So brands have
different eras. So you may think in your head, I'm
not going to Portman's because that's such a corporate girlie shop.
But that's what the Portman's was ten fifteen years ago. Yes,
but their new era is their very cool fund dresses,
party dresses, festive dressing. So think of brands as evolving.
(19:44):
People like Taylor Swift, they go through different eras, never
have preconceived they have preconceived notions.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Of brands and thinking well, I'm not going to there.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Because if you go to a shopping center and suddenly say, well,
I can't shop there there because that's an older person.
They're there for a younger person. I don't like them,
had a bad experience ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
You've set up all.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
The linen so I can't go to all the other shops,
and you've set up.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All these rules and you've locked yourself from half the
shopping center and limits. So walk in to every shop blindly,
don't even look at what the story is, just going thinking, Okay,
well I need X, y Z, and do they have it?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
And if they do, great.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's so true. I walked past for revenue recently and
I hadn't been in for revenue for so long, and
they had some really cool thing.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Revenue is killing her now.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I forgot about it. Now Mama Me is back in
the city. You know, I went off again.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
A lot of my.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Clients think they think of revenue is that very pretty
little girl sarels and.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Like thee the bad PEPM from young ago.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Exactly, it's so cool now some of their like linen
that's a gorgeous Their tailoring is beautiful, the.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
D is really good.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So again, so just yeah, basically blind, they're in a
good they're in a good ear. Don't but go into
shops that you wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Go into exactly and challenge and try things on.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I think it's a friend and like write a list
for each other, like you know, like my friend always
shops at surf shops, so I could center to the opposite.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, totally fun.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So Donnie, now we're going to jump to questions submitted
by the wonderful nothing to wear communities. So let's start
with one that I love. I didn't write this on
a promise any flat shoe recommendations. Actually, wait, my question
is I can't wear heels anymore. So if I had
to have one pair of heels for emergencies, what should
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they be and where do I get them? And I
want to personally add to that, talk to me about
your favorite flat shoes. Okay, I'm wearing a heel, but
like flats all.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Right, So if I was taking any client shopping, I
feel the flat shoes I love the most are a
good pointed toe ballet style flat because they elong get
your leg, they make you look taller. It's a nice
nude color or a bazy kind of tone. So that
will go with everything closed Geat Closed in a little
bit more classic.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It is and if you can wear that to the office,
you could wear that too.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Exactly going to go with everything.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'd get a nude and a black pair in a
pointed toe style that will go with everything. And you
can literally spend fifty sixty bucks on a pair or
invest in a really good call.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And I want you to come with me to get
a nude because I need that.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Let's do it. I've got a few up sleeve. Oh definitely,
my friend. So that's the point that So that's the
flat shoe.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And then if you had to only have one heel
in your wardrobe, a really beautiful again, nude colored heel
at a height that you're comfortable.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
With, like a pumpy that you mentioned again, if.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You're a classic pump, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And weight or leather.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Actually loves swaying.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Does I feel it feels classier, It kind.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Of blends in with your leg better.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yes, the patent ones don't blend in as well, because
what you want, you want that shoot and this blending
bin extension on your leg.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And I feel like the nude patent can sometimes look
a bit like banditty or something I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
And a big corporated business to something. Yeah, a good
nude swayed.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, I we need to help me with both of those.
You know what else I'm going to recommend for someone
who doesn't have ankles. I was just born with legs
and then feet. I have other great skip the ankles,
and I'm not particularly tall. A shoe. The one heel
I am wearing all of summer. I just got them
mind it from Billini. God, I can't believe I'm saying this.
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They sound quite strippery and quite awful, but they're just
a perspect's wedge. So it's that skinny, kind of skinny
wedge heel, so thin but comfortable to walk in. And
then it's just a nude perspects pointy toe, not too
much perspects that you're gonna get sweaty, like your toes
are out. They're so cool. I wore them the other
day with like a baggy denim shortened tea and it
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was just like, you know, going I wasn't going to
the post office. I was wearing heels. But then you
can also wear them with a beautiful dress. So it's
a very summary, kind of cool version of the nude pump.
I never thought I would wear clear perspects wedges, but
they haven't there's nothing they haven't gone with.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No, I think I know the ones and they are great, very.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And you can get that style very wrong. But I
tried them on in Billini and then I was like,
oh my god, I love these. They said like glass slippers.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
The ones I got from the stripper shop.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Maybe not as Yeah, okay, next question, I live regionally
so can't really shop in person, but I love fashion.
Do you have any advice for shopping online when it's
hard to gauge quality and size?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, so I think what you want to do is
really scrutinize your shopping when you're shopping online. So a
few things to really look at the size guide, so like,
you know, get your tape measure out and just make
sure that that size you're ordering is right for your
body shape because obviously, you know, you might usually be
a twelve, but is there twelve like the twelve that
you need? So no, and then simply did that. I
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put it all in my notes up and it was
so helpful, so good. I'm normally a size this, but.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's important to have all those measurements on.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And also, yeah, you're shopping online is really look at
the description, look at every detail, like, you know, how's
it finished, what's the fabric, what's the fabrication? You know,
don't just skim over that. That's really important information. If
you're shopping in person, you can touch and feel the fabric,
you can see how it drapes on your body. But
when you're shopping online you can't do that. But looking
at the fabrication, what fabrics and learning about that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
We did an amazing helpful episode with Nicole and I
and heind one and she's like a glossary, She's a
encyclopedia of fabric and she I said, what about polyester?
And She's like, well what kind? And I was like, well, yeah,
So we broke it all down. So we'll link that
in the show notes. But I did not know the
difference between so many.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Knowing that Disco or a Polly or a Blend, it
makes a big difference when you're ordering.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It so much easier, yes, because some synthetics are really crushy,
but then some are amazing. Exactly, Yeah, okay, so that
and you know what my favorite part to do is
read the reviews.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
If there's reviews, Oh my god, yes, reviews are so help.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
We can learn so much commah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And some people upload photos yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and
then returns policy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And sometimes also then go to their Instagram and check
out people who might be wearing the products because you
can see it on real bodies.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Photos, like you know, your Instagram. But then even so look.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
At the tag photo, see people who've worn it, and
look at it on different bodies and different shapes as well,
and be like, oh yeah, that transcends nicely from a
size six twelve.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yes, and also shameless plug jump in the Nothing to
Wear community on Facebook, there's nearly twenty thousand people in there,
and say, hey, guys, I need some websites or I'm
looking at this website because I've noticed a rise in
scam websites lately that you know, you google brown leather
bag and it's like oh, such and such Melbourne and
it's like, oh, fifty percent off and I'm like, oh
that's beautiful, oh great, And then I put it in
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trust part it or I google and it's a scam. Yeah, okay,
this is a great one. And I don't think it's silly.
This person has said I have a silly question, but
here goes. Can I take my existing clothes into a
store to try them on with items I like the
look of I want to make sure they match and
work together. Then and there, I barely have time to
go shopping, let alone go back and do a return.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
One hundred percent. You have every right to bring in
pieces from your wardrobe.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And it's such a.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Great idea because you know, sometimes you might have a
piece at home that you really want to match with something. Yeah,
and you are you going to I got to match
that color, try and think of that.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Color, yes, or you've got a photo, yeah, just bring
it with you. I would have never thought to do that.
Sometimes that it was shoes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And I was going to say, yeah, bring your shoes
into my clients when we do our style sessions. I
asked them to bring a couple of their shoes in
as well, so we can try clothes on with their shoes.
But it just it makes so much sense. Why don't
you going to have to match these clothes back to
things in your wardrobe? So bring them with you when
you go shopping. Bring your shoes when you go shopping,
Bring a pack to lunch.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
There's no rules.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Bring the giant suitcase with your whole wardrobe, because I
guess that works really well if you've got something you're
trying to get another item to pair with or on event.
But if you're just browsing, you can't really know.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
But I guess you can definitely bring them with you
and try them on. And it's a great way to
build up the perfect wardrobe off because do you want
to match back to things that you own already, Yeah,
so bring them with you.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I think that's such a good idea.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You have to say, like, Hi, I've got a bag
of clothes with me, Like, what.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
If you think you've stolen I mean maybe if you've
got a lot of I'm just walking in with a
few things from him.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I love your brand.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
The chances are the things that you bought a few
years ago, so they wouldn't be stopping.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But if you've just bought them last week, they maybe
just give them a little heads up.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
All right, last one before we get into bougie and budget.
On a previous show, an experts said to start with shoes.
This was a huge light bulb moment for me, as
shoes are where I get stuck. So I'm assuming she
means like choosing the shoes first. First, do you agree
with factoring walk ability and comfort first before picking my clothes?
And then what if I pick comfy shoes. I'm drawn
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to comfy clothes that aren't stylish. Oh my god, it
feels Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So I'm a big fan off, you know, having a
focal point of your outfit, and shoes are a great
focal point. So if you've got to particularly shar you love,
bring that shoe when you go shopping and then think
how can I create an outfit around.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
This or when you're getting dressed?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Absolutely, Yeah, Obviously bring racings around the corner. So you know,
you might have a beautiful shoe you want to wear
to the races, So bring that to the shops and
then think about how can I matches back to the.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Dress, back to the hat, back to the clutch. So
I'm a big fan.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Of bringing your shoes or your accessories when you go shopping.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What am I getting dressed in the morning? Like, have
you ever advised your clients to go, okay, where a
corporate woman, or wear a stay at home mom, or
wear going to whatever. Let's start with the shoes.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
If shoes are her thing, I have sometimes where shoes
are their life because I just love the shoes.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
They have a shoe wardrobe and that fit. That's like
the holy grail.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
And if that's what makes you happy, because that's what
she come down to you. If you're going to wear that
shoe all day and it's just going to make you
feel amazing, then start with that and build your wardrobe
around that.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I often factor shoes in, maybe not first, but because
I don't have the ankle situation, Yeah, I can't wear
a lot of types of shoes, or the hemline of
my pants or skirt really matter with the shoes, so
we'll factor it in more from a visual standpoint. But
theyn also comfort. But I've realized the shoe. I just
won't wear uncomfortable shoes anymore, so they're out.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
It's got to come back to comfort.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You're going to be wearing that all day, whether it's
a shoe, a jacket, a dress, all blaze up, I'm
going to wear that a day.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Are you going to feel good wearing that all day?
That's the key thing.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And I always say a lot of my clients are like, oh,
I love that shoe, That's my special shoe.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I'm saving that. Why are you saving it?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
You have no guarantee but tomorrow, So wear that special
shoe today, that perfume that you love for special occasions,
wear every day? Yes, yeh, do it all? Wear it now,
enjoy it today. There's no guarantee about tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And I think on the comfort thing. I mean, thank god,
shoes have come a long way since lockdown in that
there's really stylish and comfortable shoes. Now where is it
used to be kind of stylish cool comfort, daggy? I've
recently and back to your kind of wardrobe clear out.
If shoes are so uncomfortable that you'll never reach for them,
don't keep them unless they're your wedding shoes and they're beautiful,
put them on display. But the first thing I will
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get rid of when I do my wadow clean out
is uncomfortable shoes. If they take up space, you put
them on for three seconds, you go, oh my god,
I can't wear these, Oh my gosh. Remember fashion week
when you.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Need to help me. Yes, yes, we had a band emergency.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
They were a flat pair of nude pointage. You need
you to help me find the right one.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
So think about comfort.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Think why am I going to wear all day and
feel good and amazing and comfortable.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah. Yeah, And it doesn't have to be one or
the other.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And the shoes that you really love that bring you
joy but they hurt, just wear them on your laund room,
wear them at night all the TV's on.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I call them a uber shoes. Like if I'm going
out to dinner with my husband and I know I'm
gone an hour and a half to the restaurant, uber
back exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, perfect, it's very expensive.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I want all right, my friend, let's finish with bougie
and budgets. So it's summer, so we're both inspired by.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The new season.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It can be anything. Okay, you shop for women for
a living.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I shop for myself for a living and for joy.
I want you to start. Let's start bougie recommendation that
you've discoveredy.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well, I was shopping online last night before bed helped
them fall asleep. For some people with YouTube, I shop
scale and Theodore have this beautiful linen blazer.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
A look at that.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Everything about that is just delicious and going into the
warm months, a nice linen.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Blazer is my us.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's got a color, it's got a collar. Yeah, it
comes in that beautiful black or in the off white.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
My gosh, that off white isn't that delicious? They see
well link in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's an eight fifty investment. But for a good linen
blazer you'd wear over and over. Yeah, but my budget.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Version is in a linen as well. It comes into
the black, the white, and pistachio.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Oh I love the Pistachiohow.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I love anything with pistachia. How much that one is
I want to say. I think it's seventy dollars Yeah, wow,
which is great linen for a linen blazer.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I do like a linen blazer. I already got one
linen because to me, blazers aren't usually linen, but you
can still get quite a good state shoulder we line exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah, and obvious linen. It's breathaball. That's going to
be great for the warmer months.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
That would have been my little my little purchaser.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Right, we're doing a linen blazer, go shopping. It's funny
because Mum and MEA's office here in winter was so
hot that I was sweating in the single top, and
now we're in summer it's actually quite freezing. So I'm
going to get to wear my nice blazers in the office.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
All right, Well, my bousian budget are unrelated to each other,
but they're just stuff I love. There's a brand, and
I hope I'm pronouncing it right. It's called Mattiere. It's
an Australian brandir Attim Oh.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I recently bought a few of their things and I
was like, oh, the quality is amazing and the price.
You know, it's my bougie, but it's not outrageous for
its sort of similar level Aussie brands. So I'm recommending
the Nyra Barrel pant one hundred and fifty nine ninety nine.
It's like off white. What would you call that oat Yeah,
one hundred and fifty nine ninety nine, size six to eighteen.
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So it's kind of like that barrel leg geene, but
a lighter weight fabric, so good for summer. Look she's
wearing it there, kind of with you your similar blazer.
I just think one hundred and sixty bucks for that
for a bougie you can get more affordable with then.
I've looked at other brands that are kind of like
two eighty three six. I'm like whoa guys, And honestly,
I've got the most beautiful shirt from them and another
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address and the quality is phenomenal, So check out that brand.
And then my budget speaks back to your tip of
going into stores you wouldn't normally go into, so as
listeners know when you know, my mum hasn't been all
that well lately, and so I'm shopping a at a
shopping center that I never go to because it's an
hour away near her hospital. And b she's sending me
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to the shops every five seconds to get in your
pajamas and she needs to be a cardigan and she's
very cute. She's missing her shopping because we are both
shopping atticts, so she sent me up to Suzann to
get a bunch of pajamas. I do always shop Suzanne's sleepwear,
but I normally shop online. So I'm in a shopping center.
I do not know a really good one by the way. Yeah,
but there's great stores there. And you know how the
white tank is the top of summer. It's just everyone's
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doing a classic white tank. But it can be so
hard to find the right too high neck, you can't
wear a brah blah, blah blah. The Susan Rear scoop
tank top nice like not too low yet, good neckline.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Good thingness of the strap.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
You can wear a proper bra, Donnie. I have mine
in the car. I was going to show you, but
I've wore it two days ago. Twenty nine to ninety nine.
Comes to white black and I think a navy's good
midnight and a nice like it's not it's nowhere near
shre like it's thick enough. Like what am I trying
to say? You want to wear a T shirt? Bruh, Yes,
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but it's just so flattering. And I did bring mine
in the car, and I realized what's covered in foundation
because I've worn it for like three days in a row.
And also I signed up when I was buying forty
five pairs of pajamas, I signed up to their membership
loyalty program.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
And you get such good bags nice yes, and then
again because you shoped to the place that you may
not have used.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Me like does a great robe or some pjs, but
I haven't looked at their clothes for so long. Accessories
good FA sales rack. It was like thirty percent off
the winter of the I got also like a denim anyway.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
She's said they're in a new era as well.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Thirty dollars tank that you can probably get cheap if
you sign up. See at the time of recording a
VIP twenty five percent off site wide if you sign up.
I'm the best, Donnie. I love talking to you online, offline,
in real life on the podcast. You're westen you I'll
see you reson. Thank you so much for listening to
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