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July 6, 2025 17 mins

Beauty lovers, prepare for some seriously questionable advice – Leigh and Kelly are tackling the blurry lip trend that's taking over your feeds! From Korean beauty brands serving up "mellow blurring lip pencils" to Leigh's latest obsession: a fake silicone finger for perfect lip application (because apparently using your actual finger is too pedestrian when you're in the back of a taxi, obviously).

We chat layering serums, always go thinnest to thickest, but what happens when you genuinely can't tell which is which? Plus, winter tanning hacks that don't require full-body commitment (because who has time for that?), and Leigh's accidental discovery of the powder-foundation-powder sandwich technique that had strangers asking questions. 

LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

Fwee Finger Like Lip Brush $10.39

CLIO Hug BlurTint $21.38

Holika Holika Mellow Blurring Lip Pencil $14.42

Fwee Lip and Cheek Blurry Pudding $26.91

Naturium Advanced Multi Peptide Serum $49.95

La Roche-Posay B5 Hyaluronic Serum $74.95

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hi, friends, Lee here,
it's Monday. Doesn't that suck? But I've got some good
news for you. If you like listening to me talking
about clothes and fashion, I've got some Monday inspo for you.
But it's for your face. It's the best skincare and
makeup that I've been loving lately, and I thought you

(00:36):
might want to have a listen. Makeup is my therapy.
I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel
jailty about it. Hello, and welcome to Your Beauty, the
daily Podcast for your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Keller mccaren and it's Monday, as.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know on Mondays. If you're a regular, we answer
two ubi questions. Kel how can we blast?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, you can email us you beauty at Mamma Mia
dot com, dot are you damn us? On Insta, asking
the Facebook group wherever you send it, we will probably
find it and hopefully include it in the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
So let's get in to it. I couldn't help, but
wonder asked me anything you ask any questions, all.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Right, So Lee Hayley slid into our dms Lee and Kelly.
I keep seeing those blurry, soft focused lips all over
social media lately. Apparently we're ditching super precise lip liners
from a few years ago for something more diffused and
natural looking. I'm really intrigued, but I have no idea
where to start. Are there specific blurry lip liners I

(01:37):
should look for? Or can I create this effect with
products I already own?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Both? The answer is both, yes, Kelly, this is I
know you're going to say, Jesse is what you've got,
but you're a sucker for a new trend and a
new thing in a new I know, but I also
love to use and find things at home that I've
already got. True. I'm just opening some links to tell
you the name of products that I love for this.
It's basically a KBDJ beauty trend, which is all well,

(02:03):
when I said trend, it's really big there. It's all
about that sort of blurred, diffused, kind of.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Stained or bitten into a cherry yeah, cherry yeah, cherry stain,
and they just like stained to the inside of your lips, yes,
and then like blurred a little bit outwards and it's
just like, oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I love just cotten bitter cherry.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's kind of like not that it's the glass skint
for lips, but you know how, the kind of cave
and it's just sort of like glassy, like diffuse, no
real lines. So the products I've tried Holocoholica. There was
another product from them I love. I can't remember what
it was. The format name is the Mellow Blurring lip pencil.
There's a bunch of shades. I got mine on Yes
Style for twelve dollars. I think really good. So if

(02:49):
you've got a W Cosmetics near you or jump online,
you can try all of these kels. They're going to
tell you how to just diy yourself at home. Cleo.
I've always wondered if I'm pronouncing that right. Cee l Io.
Another Korean brand, hug Lip Blurre Tint Like. The names
are so delicious that also just gives you that kind
of you. I wish I won one one more. I

(03:11):
want to tell you about it, but then I've got
to tell you about the best thing I've ever bought
from W Cosmetics. To do this with the stuff you've
got at home. This is the fue Fwee. I wish
it was Fwee lip and cheek blurry pod.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I've got that at home.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's so pro so live James got me onto those
Who's bed Wednesdays with Sarah Marie. It's kind of like
it's like like a moosy so delicious. Yes, but that's
the pot. So you'd have to stick your finger in it,
which is fine.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
But could god like, you could kiss it. That's real
bad for the battery of it.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You could go Also, they're so little you'd have to
be magi. You get libs in there.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
You just get the center, wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, so weird. Okay, So what I bought is also
by Fwee and it is the Fui. It is the Fui.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
You sound like my three year old me too.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I mean that's what I thought. The f wee fingerlike
lip brush. Now I didn't bring it because of course
I didn't, but we'll put it up on the screen
for those watching on YouTube because there's different versions. But
it's like a little.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh you have brought this in before?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well that was I lost that one, So I've got
this new one.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's like a little tiny dome made of like silicon
or something. It was really bouncy. So what I've been
doing is using my regular old Charlotte to a real
Revolution lip liner. But then I use this fake finger,
a fake finger, and then you just kind of.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Lee loves to shop so much that instead of just
using her finger, no, she buys a fake finger.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay. Firstly, if you are maintaining this look out, you're
in the back of a taxi, you're you know, wearing
a beautiful ball gown. I don't know why. You're in
the bathroom and you want to redo your lip, but
then blur it out, then you don't have color and
your finger that could transfer to.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Your beautiful light. Wash my hands.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You're in the back of a taxi. Wipes, so I
don't have wipe something on my way to my wedding.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, sorry.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Also it just the texture is beautiful and so also
you can put like a bit of lipstick in the
middle of your lip and then smoodge it out. Okay,
take over.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
No, they were all really good to just ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Everyone needs a finger.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Free finger All of like everything that's marketed as blurring
and this sort of lip product. It's just a lip product,
so just whatever you like, like, go shop if you
love shopping and you want a new lip product, but
they'll just do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's about how you apply it for a blurred like
I don't think you could use the like those products
I mentioned earlier to get a really precise punchy lip. No,
you could use your punchy lip to get a blurred
exactly backwards, which is why I.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Would if you could only buy one product, I would
rather just buy an average lip product, not a free finger,
not a finger, so I would just stop sharpening my pencils,
like if you've got a lip liner that isn't yeah,
so you could just not sharpen it, and then you're
always going to just have that sort of diffused look

(06:02):
that you would get with a FUII finger because it's
not precise and you're sort of just like lining it
like it's a crayon and you can just fill in
your entire lip or just what you could uses your
actual finger with just any old matte lips product or
velvet velvety, just to sort of like blend it into
your lips, just so it's not too precise and not

(06:24):
too rich and texture products exactly, and it's just going
to give you that sort of blurred stained look.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes, I love it. I'm into it. I think it's flattering.
I think it's not too high maintenance like you, Kelly. Okay,
So coming up after the break, a question from a
UBI who wants to know how on Earth she's supposed
to know how thin her products are.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I love this question so much. It's diet culture for
products basically. Okay, I'm going to read this question up first,
and then I'm going to tell you why.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I love it so much.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I'm going to tell you why I don't. Well, I
think it's a silly theory.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
No the question though, I think I question, I do.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
But I think the theory is silly. Hi.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I have a question for Lee and Kelly about layering serums.
This is from Lauren. I know the rule is layering
from thinnest to thigres, but sometimes I can't tell which
is thicker?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Am I crazy? For example, how would I layer the.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Noturium advanced multipeptide serum and the larochez A B five
hyaluronic serum. When I try to figure out which is thinner,
I just can't I've been listening to a podcasts for years.
Thank you for all of your great content.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Would you like me to go first? Or would you
like to go first?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
No, you tell me so. You don't like the theory
about thinnest to figure.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I think there's just such a huge caveat because someone
could go and get seven serums and then try and
work it out. She doesn't really need both of these.
If you're going to layer that, she might be skin flooding.
I understand that. But if you're going to layer the
neturium advance multipeptide serum and then the LRO A B
five holeronic, I would do neturium advance multipeptide. Then I

(08:01):
would do the haleronic generally because you know the jury's out,
but hyleronic layered over something moist helps suck in suck.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
In that peronic.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
However, it won't be a massive disaster if you do
it the other way around. But this doesn't always apply
because it depends on what's in the ingredients of these products.
Because you do not want to be layering a vitamin
A and a vitamin C, or maybe you do, but
it depends on when and also your skin's resilience. There's
some ingredients that really don't play well together. So even

(08:34):
if you've got a thin and then a thicker and
you work it out, they should probably not be layered
in the same day, well, morning or night. So I
think it's less about the consistency and more about the
routine as a whole and what boxes are you taking
antioxidants or vitamin A or chemical exolience.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
But let's just say that she knows not to use
like a retino with a vitamin C. Yeah, but because
she's been listening, but which you can, but then there's caveats. Yeah,
so well I wouldn't use both of those, would you. Yeah?
If I was like my skin it is winter in Australia,
in Sydney, it's so cold, my skin is so dry,
So like my steps okay, when I'm doing my skin

(09:11):
care properly a hectic.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It Also, I think depends on like you say, you're
looking at your individual products. But I've got some products
that say they're at essence. One feels like water and
another one almost feels like a moisturizer.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, so use common sense then, But if there's two
products that you really are struggling to tell apart, like
what is the thinnest.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I just wouldn't overthink it too much.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
True, like they're both lovely products. You can do more.
Probably better practice is a peptide on first before purely.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Hydra, but it's not going to make that much of
a difference, so just don't overthink it. It's when something's
like obviously thicker that then that's what you just use
in common sense and say okay.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well yes, and I guess the oil content because oil
is more of a barrier. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Remember you're my little analogy with the water.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And it didn't quite wo but it worked at home.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
When I was practicing.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Al Also, I just think listen to your skin, like
Kelly was saying, she's really dry. I've got some products
at a questable which way you could lay them in
that there's no right or wrong, so you're not doing
it wrong. You can do whichever you want.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
But sometimes so it's skincare guys, like at the end
of the day, if you want to put it on
a moistrous.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
First, go for gold.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
You just might be wasting your money in terms of
something not penetrating into yours.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And always sunscreen very very last, and for makeup, but
I kind of work. I'll try both and see which
finish are like better particular form wearing makeup on top,
because one might be a bit tacky. So then the
thing I'll put on top, we'll kind of take that
tackiness the way, maybe a white tackiness, because it can
kind of act like a prim grammar. Yeah, so just
have a play, but just definitely line up your whatever

(10:38):
morning or night as a routine, and check out the ingredients.
You don't want lots of actives, too many exolence, but.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
If it's just hydration peptides, go for gold flood that
skin cysts.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
There are a couple of things you do need to
be careful of, and of course there's caveats with that
because it depends on the percentage in the ingredients.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
So sometimes you know it'll be don't use this and this,
and then a brand will be like sake, we've formulated
it with both, which and it actually is fine.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Everyone said you can't combine a nice cinema of vitamin C.
Then brands came out with them combined.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
You can't use retinol in the morning, than Elizabeth Arden,
We're like, yes, here's the HPR crime.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yes, and it depends on you know, the stability, the percentage.
But I think it's like think of it like you're
cooking a massive cake morning or night whatever. You don't
want to have egg in that one, then a little
bit of egg in that one, and then some egg
in that. You need to look at your routine as
a whole, regardless of consistency, because you don't want to
have you know, vitamin C in every step or exfollance

(11:36):
in every step. So it's less about consistency, be product
and what ingredients are in there in a hole, what
they're asking your skin to do.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes, exactly, good one.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Okay, Now after the break, I'm quite upset about what
Lee is going to suggest putting under.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Foundation my host tax Hunters for you, Keller.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I know, but I'm your audience at the moment.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
What a p you makeup packs? All right? Will you
go first, smarty pants? What's your fabulous f Actually it's
really not that exciting.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
So if you like to tan in the winter or excuse.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Me, we don't tan anytime?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Fake Okay when I say ten, I obviously mean a
fake tan, but say like I personally would never wear
a short skirt without stockings or some sort of fake
tan on my legs because I've got like there's just
a lot of discoloration and veins, and it just makes
you feel good. It's just not pretty down there, And

(12:40):
so the tan for anyone else, it's for you, No, no, no,
it's literally just for me. The tan just kind of
like evens out my skin tone, right, like whether that
be your arms or whatever part of your body that
you prefer to have a little bit of a glow,
even in the middle of winter. I didn't even arm,
but who can be bothered fake tanning in winter? I
don't even like it's so cold.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
The other day I wore a long skirt, but I knew,
like when I walked to you might be able to see ankle,
So I just gradual tan to.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
That exactly exactly. Oh yeah, So it's not really a tip.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
It's just to remind it you do not have to
tan your entire body think about your outfit. All you
need to do is not even ten just a little
bit bit of instant. You don't even have to actually
put a tent on. If you've got a shade of
foundation that's a little bit darker from summer, A pump
of that in with some Sally hands and or just
anything you've got home, and then a little bit of moisturizer. Yeah,

(13:33):
shmear it on the body part that's exposed, even if
it is just one ankle. Yeah, you know said things
have a split sea of one legs.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
God, my life is that?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Or like if you're wearing long boots, so I might
then just do like that much of my thigh me too,
so oh, I'll never do it.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
And then it was just straight off. When you have
a shower, you sometimes need to give it a bit
like use a washer or something.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Depends on what you're using. And for me, fin because
I like a lot of creams and white so and
I'll do it. I mean I haven't done today. Look
at that sun damage. But I'll often just do this
area with a bit of coverage and then I just
use a setting like a translucent powder to set it
before I put my cream or white top on.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Exactly. All right, go on, what do you want me
to do with powder?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Kelly doesn't like my host act. Let me explain something.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I have seen it on TikTok before and some people
that oilyer swear by it.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Okay, I discovered it by accient. It's got nothing to
do with TikTok. The other day, I put on a
foundation and then I put on setting powder, like translucent whatever.
I can't remember. Oh, I was trying a new sunscreen
that was way too dewy for me. So even though
my foundation is normally wonderful, my setting, like everything normally
would work in that equation, but the sunscreen was new

(14:38):
and made everything too dewy. Went about my day for
a few hours. Then when it had to go touch
up and i'd had to like I was doing some
filming and I'd had to like occasionally translucent throughout the
day just because it was like shine city, I could
have like pried chips on my face. So then anyway,
I was like, oh God, I've got to go somewhere
do something. What am I going to do all this face?
And then I put a bit more foundation in the

(15:00):
airs that needed it. But because I'd had a couple
of layers of setting powder, it then turned like it
just turned into this filtered fabulousness. So is that the theory?
Because I I haven't seen this.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yes, some makeup artists do it.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
So would put a setting like a translucent powder, then foundation,
and it makes a dewey foundation, velvety.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yes, and it just makes your skin look really blurred,
lawless and almost like filter it.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I thought I invented this by accident, but it is
only four people.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Like if I did that, my face would simply just
crossed and stop flaking off.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Heir, you probably never have this problem, but combo girls
will find because you know you're combining serums with moisturizes,
with sunscreens and then your coverage or whatever that oftentimes
one step too far and you go from dewey and
glowey to greasy. So this is a great way to
go back, but then without having to be really matt
and powdery. Yes, it was so good my face. I went, Oh,

(15:56):
I was not feeling great after a night out anyway,
and went to kids party and literally three people said,
oh my god, what are you using on your skin?
And I was like, I accidentally use the wrong thing,
and I U use and they also, your skin looks phenomenal. Yep,
that's my trick. Yeah, I was dissing it, but it's
really good for the oily. Yeah, if you've just gone
to dewy, do it.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I think it goes to show. It's such a good
example of actually no rules. You can literally do.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Whatever you want makeup.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I would never be bothered to put on my makeup,
then do powder, then do more makeup. But it kind
of brought my face back better than ever by a mistake.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
But some on they're actually doing it first.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, so in care my sun screened, then my powder,
then my foundation.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I shall try that and report back.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Please do.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
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Speaker 2 (17:07):
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Speaker 3 (17:08):
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at times. This episode of You Beauty is produced by
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