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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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and no I'm not confused. It's not Wednesday when nothing
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this episode I'm about to put here has been one
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(00:37):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel jailty body. Hello,
and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for Your Face.
I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. Your face is beautiful today.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Have you noticed, like we discussed last Monday, I've got
a nice plum blush.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
On your hair? Is your natural wave? Are we going
to talk about that?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Oh? Listen. I still had to tame it a fair
bit because otherwise it was a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I can't believe in seven years of doing this with you,
I've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You have, and every time I leave it natural, you go,
oh you never We're neutral.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You should because sometimes enough yet.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
For you to remember, because you do have the memory
of a goldfish.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well we don't have a question today about waves, but
we do have a good hair one. But what do
we do on Monday?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, exactly in case anyone else's a goldfish and forgets
what we do on Mondays. We answer your questions, and
we've got two fantastic questions today. Later on in the episode,
we've got one about feeling an Eyebrowser's actually like, you know,
one of those questions. It makes good. Oh yeah, just
one of those things that we say all the time.
But yeah, I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You ask many questions. But first up, we've got a
question about hair from Suzanne.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm seeking some urgent advice before I spend big hair extensions.
What is the feedback from the girls that you beauty? Yes? No,
Which are the best? I don't want them for length,
but I want them to thicken my hair up. I
have fine hair, and as I am getting older, it's
not getting any better. Before I cut it short, I
was thinking of extensions, but I don't know where to start.
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Which ones are the best and most natural, which would
require the least amount of maintenance, or are they all
the same? Please help? I have no idea where to start.
It is there is so much information online and they
all conflict each other's claims. Thinks, well, Susan, we can
both help. Kelly had extensions until recently and in my
late twenties. I had a long period of extensions.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Back then it was kind of like I had tape
in so it's like literally a couple of centimeters and
they use like a really fancy hardcore glue and like
tape it in the back and around your crew straightener
to kind of like press it like heat it. Yeah,
and then what's the other one where it's that bond?
So what did you have?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I had weaves, which we're going to get too, because
I do think it's the superior or well.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, Susan, you say you have fine hair and you
want it for volume, I'm going to recommend just cliping.
I've got a few things to tell you about. But
any form of hair extension that's sort of permanently put
in your hair will make your hair fall out, not
all of it, but it's tension on the scalp, tension
on the hair. Some are better than others. The maintenance
is you have to have them removed and moved up
or whatever. So it's expensive and time consuming. It's also
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a massive ball ach to wash. I find I had
tape ins, which I found okay, took a long time
to heat style. But then one summer I was dating
this news surfer and I was like, yeah, I was
like swimming all week in the ocean. Didn't wash my hair.
I've got such a madded mess that it took them
eight hours to try and get them out. Oh my.
So look, if I were to ever get hair extensions
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in my hair again, I would get tape in. But
my recommendation for you is clip in. I've got a
friend my age so early ish forties. She's got fine hair,
not a huge amount of it, but it's fine for
like every day or whatever. And then she's on the
telly and she just does a row or they do,
and she puts them in herself. Now a row or
two of clip in just at the back, so you
like do a half up, half down, click clip clip.
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You can go to the hair dress and get them
to cut it into your hair the length you want,
You buy the color of your hair, and she just
wears the me she's going out to or going to
work or whatever, and then you can take them out,
wash them style and when they're not in your hair.
Medusa is a brand that does really good clipins, and
also there's a brand that does pretty much everything, Angel
hair extensions. They do tapes, clip ins, halos, wefts. Halos
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is so easy. I've never done a halo. Should I
do a halo?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's just like the whole extension is then attached to
a bit of fishing wire.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Type kind of like a two pai, but not literally
it is.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's an opposite of a two paid because it goes
down your back instead of like on your forehead, and
you just lift up your hair and then you place
it on and then you sort of just comb the
rest of your hair over the top. Yes, and yes,
if you look closer you can see the wire, but yeah,
have to be looking so close.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's why I like the clippins because they really kind
of get in and you clip it in like and
then snap it sharp like a hair clip. Surprisingly, and
they're pretty like. I used to wear them back in
the day as well, and you could go on dance
for and whatever, and I just loved it that I
could take them out. You know, I would recommend you
go for human hair ethically sourced human hair, because there's
pl stick ones you can get from like tam Move,
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but they look like plastic hair and then you can
care for it when it's not on your head. That's
my recommendation over to you. Firstly, I would say to
go back and listen to last Monday's episode where Lee
had some fantastic recommendations on actually like getting your hair
to thicken up and more hair. So true growth serums
like the type B one that made me have to
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get my forehead rereaded because literally, because you're so hair,
grew so much hair.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Because the thing is is that, I mean, I don't
know how thin your hair is, but if it's really thin,
then you will struggle a little bit with extensions because
you'll actually be able to see them.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, especially if you want to put your hair up.
And yeah, it's tricky.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So I will always be a huge fan and suggest weaves. However,
if your hair is super fine, you probably can't get
a weave because you would be able to sort of
see the bump.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, so can you talk us through a weave? Is
that where they stitch it to your head?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yes, So what they'll do is they'll either put one
to a three, depending on your needs. I would never
do three. That's way too much. Tiny tiny, tiny little
corn rows basically on your scalp. And then they get
the hair, they'll much it to like talk to you
about the thickness, and that means how many wats they're
going to put and they'll match the color. And then
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they actually stitch that into the corn room, which feels
at the time like they're stitching it into your scalp.
It is quite uncomfortable, and it's very tight the first
time you get it out.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It so is everything else because they want to get
it so close to the root as they can so
that you get maximum growth before you need to have
them moved back up.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
The reason I'm such a fan of a weave over
other forms of hair extensions is that it's more affordable.
I know that that other types of hair extensions can
be upwards of a thousand dollars easily. It doesn't take
much time at all. They can put it in in
under an hour, like it's thick yeah, And even when
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you have to get it tightened, it's the same thing.
It's half an hour. It's only damaging your hair in
the two points where the braid is actually sort of anchored. Great,
it's not damaging your hair everywhere else because of that,
it's really easy. It's not hard to wash, it's not
hard to maintain because it's just that one part of your.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Scalp that's affected. That sounds really good. Yeah, wish I'd
tried those back in the day. Yeah, so we eve
if you want permanent or clip in if you want,
you know, come and go vibe.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Or like asking the you Beauty Facebook group because the
problem is is that I've got a lot of hair.
So if you do have that really fine hair, asking
the you Beauty Facebook group, because I know a lot
of people that do have more fine hair that found
the bonds or the tapes.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, a lot more. Yeah, maybe even just start with clipping.
See how you feel like if you like that look, yeah,
because you know, it does feel like there's something in
your hair on your scalp. Make sure you don't hate
the feeling before, you know, commit to something that's permanently
there for six to eight weeks or whatever, and you
have to have it moved up exactly. Good luck. That
was a good question. We haven't had extensions for a
long time now, coming up after the break M about brows.
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So if you're not sure about the best brow practice,
stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Truna has sent us a DM, ladies, I need to
ask a silly question.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
No such thing, no such thing.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
What exactly does feeling in my eyebrows mean? I currently
use a pencil and just color in the patches like
a crayon. Is that right? Is a pencil best? Or
are there methods I should try? I feel like it
looks like a big block, not like real eyebrows. This
question is so good. Isn't it funny how you say
things when we're in this industry, Like a mechanic might
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be like, oh, something about the cars, or when people
that watch sport watch sport, they go, oh, to love
and that means forward pass and you're like what, and oh,
did you feel any brows like that? Or oh, make
sure you put that in your crease? That'd be nice,
Like we say something lingo, things that would make no sense.
So true, and it's not a silly question. It's so true.
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Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And for a long time it was sort of like
whack it on. I mean sometimes I still do that
so well, I've said here in the notes, but I
haven't looked at Kelly's notes that you're probably gonna rap
about benefit of course, all right, well will you do
that first? And I've brought non benefit products because you're
a bushy bitch.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm so bushy.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I've got very patchy eyebrows, getting patchier as I age,
So I think that she's probably more on my level.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
When I think of feeling in my brows, as I'm
very bushy, but there are some areas of my brows
where perhaps it's more sparse the hairs than other areas,
and it also just makes it all look a lot
more uniform.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Benefit has a whole bunch like they've got super super
super fine pencil that's like you know, that kind of
waxy pencil, or they've even got like the textory ones.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
They've got so many, and the.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Three prong kind of microblading copy type vibe.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But my all time favorite is the precisely my brow detailer.
So I have first up, which is people do it's
like a little tiny, tiny pencil, not even like a needle. Yeah,
it's not even a pencil though, it's like a gel
pencil hybrid yes, and it's so fine. Yes. And then
the other end has a spoolly so fully is.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Like one of those tiny, tiny, tiny miscar brushes with
no scar on exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So I'll brush up my brows and just make sure
that they're all all of the hairs because I'm bushy,
go in the same direction, and then I have a
look where I need a little bit more depth, like
if there's some areas that don't have as much hair,
and I'll run it through there lightly like a council,
like just like using fine little feathery motions as if
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i'm coloring in basically literally as if I'm coloring in, okay,
And then really lightly I'll sort of define some of
the edges a little bit so that it looks more
of a shape of a shape rather than just like
a hairy blob or sitting on my face. And then
I use the brush again just to make sure that
there's no harsh lines.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I do that same with that bit before I recommend
some products. I am okay filling in my brows. They
look good. But when I was recently away, one of
my best friends is a makeup artor. She lives in Paris.
When I go there, I make her makeup every night.
She filled in my brows because I've got, you know,
decent brow and then really patchy. So she used like
a really really dark round on the patchy bits on
the outside, and where it needed a little bit of
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filling closer to the inner corner of the eye, she
used like a medium brown because visually, if it's too dark,
your eyes will look closer together and you look angry.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And no one's natural eyebrow would be the exact same,
not color the whole way.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But I remember back in the day when we did
that really angular first bit. It was just not good.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I never did that at the Kardashian brow.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh my god, I've got to show you photos. I
look like a lego. It was so bad. So if
you want to get that advance, you can use different colors.
I don't bother doing it at home, but some that
I love and I do the same as cal And
if I were you, I'd practice on the back of
your hand, just like stroke stroke, like pretend you're drawing.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Care stroke coloring in.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But I think coloring in like maybe because I've got
a five year old coloring in like e like, just like.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Coloring and neatly a tiny little area.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But you also maybe want to leave the tiniest cap.
You know, not a block color anyway, you're gonna have
to play around. Try it on the back of hand
before you do an your brows. My recommendations are the
Mechamax Brow Guru Micromatic pencil. This has got one of
the finest points I've ever seen. Twenty dollars. If you
can go in store and get shade matched, unless you're
(12:34):
pretty confident what you are, because there's you know, warm brown,
cool brown, and often brunettes like a light brown, not
a b in anyway, it's hard. The Cover Girl Clean
Fresh Brow Nano pencil again, that is super fine. You
get that a price sign. It's about twenty bucks. One
I've been using a lot I have with me today
because I often rub my face and have to touch
up my brows is the Elf Ultra Precise Brow pencil.
(12:56):
They're fifteen dollars. You could also try, which I've had
quite a lot of luck with. Is like a felt
like a it's a brown pen like think of a
liquid eye line and but it's for your brows. I
love the Holy Strokes micro Fine browpen by Elf Smetics.
That's eighteen dollars. Another good one particularly if you want
to practice, is from Chemist to our house. You know
(13:16):
that brand W seven sharp brow It's called it's like
a feltpen in brunette. It's four dollars, I know, four dollars.
I know. Another one I love because I love Revolution
Beauty is the Revolution Hairstroke browpen. Again similar really fine
pigmented pen like a liquid eyeliner, but you just do hairstrokes.
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Then another option, if you're worried about depth or you know,
want it to really stay, it's got a super super
super fine angled brush and use a pomade. So the
Anastasia Beverly Hills dip brow pomarde is great and does
not go anywhere, and it kind of gives you more
opaqueness than the others. And then also a cheaper version
is the Mabe Lene Tattoo brow pomade pot same vibe
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and yet pop it in and then brush your brows
up and out again just to kind of unify the
color of the product you've used in your own brow
so it looks kind of a bit more uniform. That's
what I do anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
It was such a good question, though very hard to
We need to talk mist to a video today, yeah, straight, because.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I was like, I just good bubba bu But then
I was like, what is interesting?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Huh? After the break host tax host Tax and Lee,
Oh gosh, I hate her hack. Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's life changing in a good and bad way.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
What a you makeup hacks?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, So mine is it's not for your pause and
I know, but I just don't ever want to see
myself that close. Kelly. So it's to get a magnifying mirror.
Not groundbreaking, I know, not quite as groundbreaking as getting
a bobby pin. But those magnifying mirrors you can get
absolutely everywhere. It's on a stand, you flip it over.
One side's normal, the other sides like ten times magnified aggressive.
(15:02):
You get them from Meyer, you get them from Amazon,
you get them everywhere. So recently someone I love has
been in the hospital. I've been there every day and
they I had one with them. Hilariously. I love that.
That's what Daymark, Yeah, to take to the hospital the
ambulance package. She said, I need my big magnifying mirror
to get a chin hairs. Oh a far fair fair Yeah.
So I started using a beautiful natural light in the
(15:23):
afternoon in the hospital and I was just smocking around,
you know, wasting hours, and I was plucking, plucking, and
then I was like, I'm going to do my makeup.
I was so precise with my makeup, maybe because my
eyesight's going a bit when I then when I looked
in the regular mirror, it looked like I'd been airbrushed
because I could see every little like it was fun
to do.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Really, I just feel like looking at myself that closely
would not be good.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It will look at the start, I was like, oh
my god, that poor Oh my god, that hair, Oh
my god. That But you know, to do your makeup
more so obviously for plucking and whatever, but don't get
picking in those things because you're going to pick it
a microscopic thing because you think it's massive. But to
do your makeup or even just to finish your makeup,
I literally just loved it. Now I do it at
home all the time, natural light and magnifying mirror, just
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to really make sure your preciseness is on point. Okay,
I haven't done it today, can you tell? I just
love it? What about you?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I've got an anti hack.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I love these ones an.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Anti hack, So I don't know about uli but my
algorithm is full of join me from my morning shed videos.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What the hell? I just I don't even watch them.
Can you tell me what happens?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay? So just if you've never seen this type of
content before, lucky you. It's just so silly. So it's
basically someone comes on camera and they say, do my
morning shed, and they're literally shedding layers. So they'll have
the curling things in their hair with then a bonnet
over the top their face. They do the face taping everywhere,
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and then there's.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
This overnight thick sheet masky things you can do.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yah. Yeah, then they'll put the overnight thick sheet mask
on their face. Oh, they tape their mouth as well.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I feel suffocated.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yes, then they do like chest ones. They wrap their tummy. Yes,
they put all of these different devices like wrap. No crap.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Basically, I feel really chastrophobic. And then what's it meant
to do? Nothing At the end of the day. The
actual difference would be so insignificant, and no scientist has
actually came out with any sort of reputable dart. Why
don't they just throw serumon moisturize at a.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Bit literally, Okay, because that doesn't make good content. So
it is stupid and unnecessary and you do not need
to do it. Please don't think that any regular person
needs to do a shed.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Who has time to do that at night and in
the morning? And how would you sleep with like gun
coin and.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I love it. People ask these questions and then they go, well,
I do have time. I make the time because I
aprioritize it. And it's like, you're a full time content creator,
so this was part of your workday making that video.
Average people do not have forty minutes to apply shed.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I feel too suffocated if I've got too much things, yeah,
stuff on my face.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And also I don't actually I reckon. Ninety percent of
the people aren't actually doing it anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
They're putting it on in the morning and they're filming.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Because it is good for shock value on social media.
You have to do those sorts of things to get views.
If they were sleeping it, they would be smashing the
zannies because absolutely I could not sleep, No way could
anyone sleep l like.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So I get the night sweats, so specking of all
those players. Ew. But look, if you do it, good
luck to you. But if you feel the pressure of
waste forty minutes either side of your day and night.
Don't don't begred.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We're not doing it because it's really not going to
make that big of a difference at the end of
the day, and it's encouraging over consumption and it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Totally On that note, thank you for listening. Don't forget.
We love receiving your questions. Our Instagram account is at
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DM a voice note there if you want, and we
will include in the show.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
This episode of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood,
with audio production by Teagan Sadler. Bye Bye,