September 28, 2025 • 21 mins
Time to embrace Taylor Swift's showgirl era! In this week's Beauty Edit, we're diving into why orange is about to dominate your beauty routine, from matte orange lips to tonal eye looks, and breaking down the vanilla and caramel fragrance takeover that's got everyone smelling like dessert, plus why Gen Z are ditching their long layers for chic pixie cuts.
They're also solving the eternal working mum dilemma: should you invest in keratin treatments or that fancy Dyson straightener? The answer might surprise you.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Hey friends, Lee here, host of Nothing
to Wear, but also host of You Beauty. I'm dropping
a You Beauty episode here. Don't get mad at me,
but if you listen to You Beauty, you might know.
There's a bit of a theme about what I've been
(00:30):
talking about recently. I want you to spot whether I
mentioned the topic in this episode or not. Kelly might
give you a clue, and she wants me to stop
talking about it, but I will never stop talking about it,
So go and have a listen. Makeup is my therapy.
I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel
guilty of body. Hello and welcome to You Beauty. I'm
(00:54):
Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCoy. Before we get into the
questions of the week, let's catch up on what's happening
in beauty land. Here are the top beauty headlines.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Cas Green, morning
editor at MoMA Maya and your biggest beauty nerd and.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm Amy Clark, Mama MIA's lifestyle editor, and I have
a really big pimple on my chin this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So love that for me.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Here's what's trending. Okay, So Taylor Swift's showgull orange theme
is coming for your beauty routine. So Amy, I need
to talk about my girl, Taylor Swift. She's been getting
engaged to her now fiance, Travis Kelsey. She's about to
release her twelfth studio album, The Life of a show Girl,
and she has a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But what does that have to do with beauty?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Actually, it has everything to do with beauty, because, as
we know, anything that Taylor Swift does seeps into the
cultural zeitgeist of trends, including the colors associated with her albums.
Case in point, Google searches and group chats immediately exploded
a few weeks back when Taylor appeared on Travis's New
Heights Sports podcast wearing a matt To orange lipstick. For
(01:58):
anyone wondering, there's a strong chance that it's the hard
to find Nas Morocco lipstick. However, I highly recommend the
Mac Powder Kiss Velvet Blur lipstick in All Star and
ees if you're looking for an alternative available in Australia,
so Amy.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This tells us a lot about what we're going to
see across fashion, home and beauty, and the answer is
a whole lot of orange orange lipsticks, blushes, eyes, shadow looks,
and maybe even manicures, which I'm excited for the specific
bright orange shade associated with the life of a show girl.
I must admit it's not the easiest shade to wear,
but think of it more as a color spectrum and inspiration,
so we can go from warm peach and punchy coral
(02:34):
to deeper shades of burnt orange and also caramel.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
My favorite way to wear color trends is to lean
all the way in with a tonal look, So pick
your shade of orange and wear it as a wash
of color over the eyes, the lips, and the cheeks.
Even an orange French tip or a feature nail is
another way that you could participate in the trend without
having to go full blown orange. Gen Z are just
(02:58):
discovering the pixie cut. So according to Pinterest's latest trend report,
gen z searches for chic pixie are up two thousand,
four hundred and thirty five percent, which is kind of wild,
and it's moving away from the long layers and the
curtain bangs and towards the ultra short styles made famous
by the likes of Audrey Hepburn, Michelle Williams, Emma Watson Cass.
(03:21):
Why do we think gen Z are getting the chop okay?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So, as a girl who once cut her hair and
majorly regretted it, I have some thoughts. Really, it's all
about nostalgia for the nineties. A pixie gut has that
glamorous kind of editorial vibe. It shows off your neckline
and draws attention to the royal beauty of your features.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Also, speaking as a millennial here, authenticity and embracing you
over what is deemed conventionally attractive does appear to be
what really speaks to gen Z when it comes to
their beauty esthetic. So, alongside other nineties trends like grunge
eye makeup and deeper shades, it's kind of a rebellion
against the supermodel blowout or clean girl slick.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Why does everyone want to smell like vanilla and caramel
right now? If you feel like salted caramel and vanilla
scented body lotions, hammers and fragrances are popping up all
over your feet. That's because they are thanks to recent
launches from brands like Fante Rare and the new Too
Mecca brand. Flur, smelling like a dessert is all over
my TikTok feed.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It kind of feels like We've gone back to the
early noughties and I'm spraying Britney Spears Fantasy at my
locker at high school. But gormand fragrances that were traditionally
reserved for the home, like the infamous Glasshouse Taha Candle
a dominating new launchers in the bath, body care, and
personal fragrance categories. Even I've seen caramel scented skincare.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So vanilla isn't just a vibe. There's actually a lot
of sales data that can back this up. Amy, So
within forty eight hours of launching Flour, sold out products
include the Vanilla Skin DP and their heavy cream hair
and body mist. But these are not your mother's kind
of sickly sweet vanilla scents. We're seeing juxtaposition of rich
sweet notes with contrasting deeper sents like sandalwood, pink pepper,
(05:01):
and musk.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think we're going to see even more of this
caramel and vanilla resurgence come holiday season, because it's also
just a nice alternative to your standard Christmas cents and
fun fat sugary sweet gormand fragrance notes are known within
the beauty industry as catnip for men.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So do with that information what you will.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Now, let's get into all your beauty Q and a's
with Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I couldn't help wonder ask me anything. You ask many.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Questions, so our first one is from Jessica Hilean. Kelly
loved the podcast Quick Question. It's a spicy sunscreen question.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I don't know, Ea your sunscreen you don't want? S fine?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
No, can I layer a tinted mineral sunscreen on top
of a chemical sunscreen? I have a chemical sunscreen that
I absolutely adore, but I am looking at incorporating a
tinted SBF product for a more my skin but better look.
I've read mixed opinions on layering the two types of sunscreens,
and I thought you may be able to provide clarification.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Thanks. We absolutely can, so just a caveat that due
to the regulations in place by the Therapeutic Goods Administration,
we can't recommend products. The TGA does a lot of
good things, but please let us recommend specific sunscreens because
I've tried them all and women find it hard to
find a good one. Jessica, you absolutely can. This is
actually perfect. You can layer them in this order. Let
(06:23):
me explain so a quicker wonder if you confused about
the different types of sunscreen. So mineral sunscreen is also
called a physical sunscreen or also called an inorganic sunscreen.
So if you see those terms all the same thing
that essentially, and I'm really like giving you top line
here sits on the surface of the skin, whereas a
chemical sunscreen another name for that is an organic sunscreen.
(06:43):
They contain like little organic molecules and chemical bonds, and
they absorb energy from the UV radiation, so it feels
a bit more like skincare. So, yes, you've said you've
got a.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Mineral sunscreens are the ones that all over the news
last month. They were because you know, plot twist. They
all actually come from the same manufacturer.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And yet I mean generally speaking, they're harder to get
an elegant formula because they're creating physical law. They're going
to be thick and sticky, which is why. And you
do find a good one, you're like, whoa, yeah, yes,
you can layer and that is the perfect way to layer.
So your chemical sunscreen first, So you put your chemical
sunscreen on. That's absorbed into the skin to be effective.
So you just put it on your last step of
your skincare. You know how they say, wait twenty minutes.
(07:25):
The jury's out on that, but they's got a little
hand fan speed it up. Yeah, but that's mostly for
chemical sunscreens because they kind of go in and sit down.
They need a minute to sit down, so then you
find their seats. Yeah, so you've and I generally wait, anyway,
do my skincare. Then I've done, let's say, for example,
my chemical sunscreen. Then you want to add your tinted
mineral wonderful. That is great. That is basically like adding
(07:48):
an added bonus. So that kind of sits on the
surface of the skin and reflects and deflects the UV rays.
It's like kneading iron.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
So you eat a steak, but then have a supplement
just for funzies.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Sure, except for don't do that. Go to your doctor
and get tested for your iron first. Yeah, I mean,
I know, I know, I know. Yes, it's like packing
an overcoat when you've already got a jacket on. Oh,
a raincoach if you yes. And so a tinted version
is really good because that generally will have iron oxides
in it, which is a form of sunscreen like a
SPF protection. So you're combining the two. So if you
(08:20):
let your chemical settle ideally ten to fifteen minutes, do
your hair, put your shoes on, I don't know, and
then you're topping up with your mineral. But you can
also layer two chemicals. I often do that, so you
can do chemical sunscreen and then another chemical sunscreen. So
I'll do like a chemical clear you know nothing, and
then I'll do a chemical tinted. Reason being is you
will never wear enough tinted sunscreen, whether it's chemical or mineral,
(08:43):
to get the full SBF protection. You just can't. You
would look like you've got sixteen layers of foundation on.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I have such good example of that, the Cosmetics SPF fifty.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, it's so thick. Years ago. Hannah English did that
for Mama Mea. We'll link it in the show notes.
She used the half tea spoon, yes, and she it
looked like she was dripping in foundation. You can never
do that, but you can layer chemical and chemical. That's
absolutely fine. Just keep in mind, say you've got an
SPF ThReD sunscreen and then you lay her on an
SBF twenty. The numbers don't it up. It's not mass.
(09:15):
So you've got SPF thirty and sp fifty for example,
that's not SPF eighty. It doesn't work like that. Also,
two chemicals might pill. I know. One's the different ones
that I can. You know, a chemical and a physical
might pill. So just learn what layers work together. Also,
just if you want more or you want to find
the write info on that stuff. Doctor Michelle Wong. We've
had her on New Beauty lad Muffins Science. She is phenomenal.
(09:35):
She's got a whole website and if you do want
more information that is factual and scientific and correct, head
to doctor Michelle Wong's website. So what I love firstly
is she's a genius and she missed us most like
all skincare stuff at mostly sunscreen. She also then does
like a video version and a written version depending on
how you like to consume your content. Ohyes, but one
(09:56):
thing that oftentimes when we're having this chemical versus mineral
debate is people think that chemical sunscreens absorb the heat
and will making malasma worse, and that's really not true.
She says, chemical sunscreens you not significantly cause malasma by
heating the skin. Both chemical and physical sunscreen work by
absorbing UV and converting it to heat. But the amount
of heat generated is so small it's undetectable. So what
(10:19):
you like, Yeah, whatever you like, and use enough of it,
reapply frequently. Sunscreen is only one form of sun protection. Hat, sunglasses,
upf whatever, plose, get out of the sun please. I
love that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, And you know what, the biggest rule is your
favorite sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We don't care what it is, as long as you're
using it. Yeah. Like, for example, I did my skincare
this morning, I did my sunscreen, and then I did
I think, I did my hair and everything. I was
like foundation while I west today and I ended up
wearing an SBA fifty tinted sunscreen. But just because I
liked the finish as a foundation exactly, you'd already actually
put I'm watching for something and I was like, oh,
I like the way this sits on it. Yeah, all right.
(10:58):
Question two Becky asked, Hi, Kelly and Lee of listener OnlyFans.
Do you think she means? O? Oh g I first
time please actually got a secret toe channel. I'm like,
you are on the wrong place. Come over to my toe.
Don't showed it up. It's a great idea. Oh my god,
you could note. I saw a girl the other day
she partially choose food and puts it in a bag
(11:20):
and posts it people. She's making thousands of dollars. We're
in the wrong job. You could do something with your
weird toes. Becka says, I'm a fellow lazy girl and
I need your opinion. I have dark brown, wavy, fine
hair and not heaps of it thanks to postpardon, and
I'm a morning shower person. Firstly, I love this detail.
This helps us as much detail now. Sometimes we read
a question, we're like, we need to know this, this this. Yeah,
(11:42):
so thank you. You are a good girl, Becka. She says,
I'm heading back to full time work with two kids,
and I want to know should I invest in nanoplasty
or hair keratin or the wet to dry dice in
straightener are usually just air dry or do a quick
blow dry. Thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks. Girls. I would
like you to look at my hair Lee as a
(12:03):
exhibit a of y are you Becca but blonde? Yes?
No you're not. Your hair looks great today?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Nope, I look like a bin chicken. Look at the
fried flyaways. Which is why I'm like, I reckon the
treatments over just a blow dry, because a blow dry,
your hair is still gonna look not right.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Every morning it even if it's if you won't want to.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
If you've got the keratin or the none o whatever
it's called.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I always think of like a nose too. I think nanoplastia,
like getting your nose done. Yeah, but that's ryo plastic.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
But anyway, I just think that do that one because
then it's just worth the investment and then you literally
can just let it air dry.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I agree, it saves you time. I could not agree more. Oh,
let me explain the difference between those two things. So
because you've tried both of them, right, I not. Well,
I get a version of it. So, I mean, it's
essentially all the same thing, but they like to market
each other off each other, to say ones where it's
like having gel or buy a like it's just all
shit on your nails. It's gonna make some look good,
but we'll do some damage. So firstly, I would definitely
(13:03):
get the smoothing slash straightening treatment because every morning you
wake up, you will love yourself sick. Yes, it's an
outlay of let's just say, roughly five hundred dollars, but
it will last as long as your hair grows. So
your hair will grow out from your head, that part
will be natural texture, but where they started at the root,
that will continue to be the beautiful, smooth texture. Yes,
(13:24):
so I probably get I mean I need it, minds
to you, but ideally every five months. And because your
hair grows fast though fast, and particularly where it's short,
I can't really do this slip back when it's gross
because I've always had really straight, quite nice hair, but
postpart and mind just went a totally different texture. Rude.
I've got lines, main heads, not a nice postpartum. I
have less time and someone at my ankles and you're
(13:45):
giving me worse hair. Yeah, rude, rude. So there's like,
let's just say keratin and nanoplasty just to give you
the two sort of categories. Keratin is aimed at straightening
and smoothing. Frizz. They use keratin. They used to use formaldehyde.
That's why nanoplasty loves saying keratin's bad. You can get
that really sort of smooth, glossy finish. It reduces frizz,
(14:07):
adds shine and smoothness. Brands don't use formaldehyde anymore. They've
got a replacement chemical. If you wanted like dead pins straight,
like straight, straight straight, you'd go for keroten. And that
would be for someone that maybe has like railey curly
or coily hair that wants straight.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That also is quite frizzy, and then they want it
straight because if you had like.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Our hair, it would look awful. Well, you can also
do different levels once you've so nanoplasty is more about
treatment and nourishing your hair, while alsot straightening it. So
they use what's called nanotechnology. He's the word an amino acids.
So you'll get like a naturally looking smoothness, but not
ultra sleek. Do whatever you want. I personally get karasilk,
(14:50):
so it's keratin treatment from kerrasilk. Kara silk's name is
because they used to this technology, used to use real silk.
Now they leave little wormies alone and they use a
vegan version of silk. So when I go and get
mine done, they say, do you want like there's names
for it, let's say like light or heavy, and I've
had both. And it's so that like you say, you've
got wavy hair, yeah, a nice wave if you probably
(15:10):
just want no frieze, but steal some texture and body. Yeah.
Gone are the days where it looks like you've like helmeted. Yes.
And for me they literally just blow dry your hair,
put the solution on, straighten your hair, wash it out.
I'm done in an hour. I'll put my hair up.
I don't have to wear it home for three days.
I need to try it. Oh it's life changing, Kelly,
I know I need to try it. So these are
(15:31):
all similar versions. Just research what your place does or
what friends have done, or jump in the ubidy Facebook
group or your community group on Facebook. You know if
you're in like your Suburbs group. I love my Suburbs
group and say hey, I'm thinking of this. Has anyone
got one or has anyone got to sell on? You
will love yourself sick. Then of course you can still
heat stull if you want to, but I just then
use an air dry barb Most days, like today I
did an air dry barm and then because we're a
(15:53):
bit later than normal, I just did a few little
tongs and it looks so pretty. I mean, I wouldn't
have that wave without the tongue, but I wouldn't have
any So this is not air dried. This is dice stuff.
And no I did it. It doesn't I look like
a bitten chicken. It's awful. I just think, you know,
a couple hundred bucks, five hundred six hunds a lot
of money, but the cosper where the convenience and the
(16:13):
time is money. Yep, I would do it. And look
if you don't love it, or you think it was
too expensive or whatever, you don't have to have. It's
so funny how people have different priorities when it comes
to their routines as well. It's like Kelly has got
six different shades of pink on her eyelids, but her
hair is And also for me, anything that gives me
time back, I will pay anything, because time is life.
(16:33):
Like you can't buy time, well you can if you
get caroten like, do you know what I mean? That's
the only way to buy hacks ye, hack city, what's
your beauty bite?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, last week I had my little wise words that
were simplifying how we do skincare. Today I have a
little bit of a reminder and it's also coming off
the back of our chat about sunscreen at the start
of the app.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So little reminder. Toxicity is in the dose. Water is
toxic you have too much of it.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So that's why apps like I see people using that
stupid Yuka app or you know, they'll put and they'll
say it's got this in it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So it's a red because it's toxic. Yeah, it is
if you swum in it, like if you ate enough
apple seeds, you die, like the little things that little
seeds in apple core.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
The process that companies have to go through to be
able to sell products on the shelves in Australia is
so stringent, and I promise you no one's trying to
kill you because then you can't spend your money. Yes,
so true, nothing is toxic in the amounts that you
are ingesting it.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
If you want a great account to a follow. I
love her. Her name is that Eco Well and she
just mythbusts all of these things with science. It's not
her opinion, it's which is what that just was yeah,
but exactly, and it's like, yes, everything is the poison
makes it. It's like, my mum's quite unwell, as you know.
And the number one thing they've told her she can
only have like six hundred miles of water a day.
If she drinks too much water, she will die. Whereas
(18:10):
before I went to the cardiologists with her, I was like, Mum,
drinking my water, be healthy and they said, no, tea, soup, coffee, everything,
all her fluids. Honest, she can only have six hundred meals.
And so it's like, well there you go. Wow, you
know a lot. I mean, everything had to come from somewhere.
So even if it's natural, it can be bad for you,
and if it's a quote unquote chemical, it can be
great for you exactly. And that's the thing. A lot
(18:30):
of natural essential oils and things that's potentially formulating a
pregnancy beauty brand. There's so many essential oils you can't
use on pregnant people.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
And also if you just put it pure on someone's skin,
it would literally burn it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So yeah, cut the crap. Toxicity is in the dose.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
You've got Show and tell again, I've got wise words,
You've got Show and tell you bought a lunch box.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's my system. A lunch bag. We'll reminder of who
I used to be and I'm gonna beat her again.
So when Alexander was a baby and I was on
Matt leave and then we're going to the beach because
he was a winter baby, so he was like six
months over Christmas and it was just like I'm out
and about. I always carried a cooler bag for our
sunscreens because your car gets incredibly hot and going to
the beach gets incredibly hot. Yes, and obviously I'd have
(19:15):
drinks and stuff, but I had a separate one just
for our beauty, I mean my beauty. He had something
that is the most le Campbell thing in the entire word,
that you had a separate bag for your beauty products
at the beach. Well, in my car, it lived there
because we were going like to a park or to
the beach every single day. Like you know how you've
got the PRAM in the car, Yeah, you like, so
I had like a little kit but it had sunscreen
in it and everything, and your car Like this is
(19:37):
a bit morbid, but you know what happens if you
leave a person in a car. You cannot keep sunscreen
in a car in a hot day, throw it out
all of you. Imagine if you just left your makeup overnight.
Kelly's like, I do that. I mean I've done heaps
of times. But anything not in the middle of summer, no,
I guess. More so your skincare like your actives. You
cannot use the viteam and see that's seen in the
sun in the imagine a perfume. Eh. Yes. So the
(19:58):
reason I thought of this I was scrolling the other
day and I came across this Aussie brand. It's called
cool Kool and they have made Australia's first insulated beauty back.
So it's essentially something like this way more sheep. It
looks heaps better. But it reminded me I used to
do this, and I keep you like a little car
get I've got like a mist to conceal blah blah
blah blah. If you keep them in there, you don't
have to put an ice back in it. Just shut
(20:19):
it and it's insulated at the temperatures pretty much. You like,
shut it, shut it out, unless you know you leave
your carr in the desert sixty five years. But you
can sometime if you want to put a little cooler
thing in it, if you are going to the beach
or whatever. You know those imagine then if you did
put ice in it and you had like a misted
Do you know those crunchy things you get at the
(20:40):
pharmacy that you turn on the heat and you can
get the cooling ones too, Yeah, you just check my
those in there. So check out heads cool ko Elder
brand and they make much more stylish ones. But this
is my little kid that I've Well it's probably a
bit big, but I end up taking so much stuff
into the car, seven hundred lip balms and then I go, oh,
see up there'sll my biybro fencil. So this just lives
in my car now. But what's that coming summer? Great
(21:01):
great recommendation. Realize it's all floating around in my console.
All right. Well, on that note, I'm sad. We'll be
back in your easin eyes on Friday. Yes, if you
want to ask us a question, you can do that
our email. Can I remember it after seven and a
half years? Is you beauty at Mama mea dot com dot?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Are you there?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You go? I always want to say you body podcast
hit us up on Instagram at you Bouty podcast, jump
in the Facebook community, give Kelly a call on a
mobile number which is ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I'd love that. Actually, Hello, Oh yes, I can help season. Bye.
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Hey friends, Lee here, host of Nothing
to Wear, but also host of You Beauty. I'm dropping
a You Beauty episode here. Don't get mad at me,
but if you listen to You Beauty, you might know.
There's a bit of a theme about what I've been
(00:30):
talking about recently. I want you to spot whether I
mentioned the topic in this episode or not. Kelly might
give you a clue, and she wants me to stop
talking about it, but I will never stop talking about it,
So go and have a listen. Makeup is my therapy.
I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel
guilty of body. Hello and welcome to You Beauty. I'm
(00:54):
Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCoy. Before we get into the
questions of the week, let's catch up on what's happening
in beauty land. Here are the top beauty headlines.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Cas Green, morning
editor at MoMA Maya and your biggest beauty nerd and.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm Amy Clark, Mama MIA's lifestyle editor, and I have
a really big pimple on my chin this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So love that for me.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Here's what's trending. Okay, So Taylor Swift's showgull orange theme
is coming for your beauty routine. So Amy, I need
to talk about my girl, Taylor Swift. She's been getting
engaged to her now fiance, Travis Kelsey. She's about to
release her twelfth studio album, The Life of a show Girl,
and she has a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But what does that have to do with beauty?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Actually, it has everything to do with beauty, because, as
we know, anything that Taylor Swift does seeps into the
cultural zeitgeist of trends, including the colors associated with her albums.
Case in point, Google searches and group chats immediately exploded
a few weeks back when Taylor appeared on Travis's New
Heights Sports podcast wearing a matt To orange lipstick. For
(01:58):
anyone wondering, there's a strong chance that it's the hard
to find Nas Morocco lipstick. However, I highly recommend the
Mac Powder Kiss Velvet Blur lipstick in All Star and
ees if you're looking for an alternative available in Australia,
so Amy.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This tells us a lot about what we're going to
see across fashion, home and beauty, and the answer is
a whole lot of orange orange lipsticks, blushes, eyes, shadow looks,
and maybe even manicures, which I'm excited for the specific
bright orange shade associated with the life of a show girl.
I must admit it's not the easiest shade to wear,
but think of it more as a color spectrum and inspiration,
so we can go from warm peach and punchy coral
(02:34):
to deeper shades of burnt orange and also caramel.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
My favorite way to wear color trends is to lean
all the way in with a tonal look, So pick
your shade of orange and wear it as a wash
of color over the eyes, the lips, and the cheeks.
Even an orange French tip or a feature nail is
another way that you could participate in the trend without
having to go full blown orange. Gen Z are just
(02:58):
discovering the pixie cut. So according to Pinterest's latest trend report,
gen z searches for chic pixie are up two thousand,
four hundred and thirty five percent, which is kind of wild,
and it's moving away from the long layers and the
curtain bangs and towards the ultra short styles made famous
by the likes of Audrey Hepburn, Michelle Williams, Emma Watson Cass.
(03:21):
Why do we think gen Z are getting the chop okay?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So, as a girl who once cut her hair and
majorly regretted it, I have some thoughts. Really, it's all
about nostalgia for the nineties. A pixie gut has that
glamorous kind of editorial vibe. It shows off your neckline
and draws attention to the royal beauty of your features.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Also, speaking as a millennial here, authenticity and embracing you
over what is deemed conventionally attractive does appear to be
what really speaks to gen Z when it comes to
their beauty esthetic. So, alongside other nineties trends like grunge
eye makeup and deeper shades, it's kind of a rebellion
against the supermodel blowout or clean girl slick.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Why does everyone want to smell like vanilla and caramel
right now? If you feel like salted caramel and vanilla
scented body lotions, hammers and fragrances are popping up all
over your feet. That's because they are thanks to recent
launches from brands like Fante Rare and the new Too
Mecca brand. Flur, smelling like a dessert is all over
my TikTok feed.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It kind of feels like We've gone back to the
early noughties and I'm spraying Britney Spears Fantasy at my
locker at high school. But gormand fragrances that were traditionally
reserved for the home, like the infamous Glasshouse Taha Candle
a dominating new launchers in the bath, body care, and
personal fragrance categories. Even I've seen caramel scented skincare.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So vanilla isn't just a vibe. There's actually a lot
of sales data that can back this up. Amy, So
within forty eight hours of launching Flour, sold out products
include the Vanilla Skin DP and their heavy cream hair
and body mist. But these are not your mother's kind
of sickly sweet vanilla scents. We're seeing juxtaposition of rich
sweet notes with contrasting deeper sents like sandalwood, pink pepper,
(05:01):
and musk.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think we're going to see even more of this
caramel and vanilla resurgence come holiday season, because it's also
just a nice alternative to your standard Christmas cents and
fun fat sugary sweet gormand fragrance notes are known within
the beauty industry as catnip for men.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So do with that information what you will.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Now, let's get into all your beauty Q and a's
with Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I couldn't help wonder ask me anything. You ask many.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Questions, so our first one is from Jessica Hilean. Kelly
loved the podcast Quick Question. It's a spicy sunscreen question.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I don't know, Ea your sunscreen you don't want? S fine?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
No, can I layer a tinted mineral sunscreen on top
of a chemical sunscreen? I have a chemical sunscreen that
I absolutely adore, but I am looking at incorporating a
tinted SBF product for a more my skin but better look.
I've read mixed opinions on layering the two types of sunscreens,
and I thought you may be able to provide clarification.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Thanks. We absolutely can, so just a caveat that due
to the regulations in place by the Therapeutic Goods Administration,
we can't recommend products. The TGA does a lot of
good things, but please let us recommend specific sunscreens because
I've tried them all and women find it hard to
find a good one. Jessica, you absolutely can. This is
actually perfect. You can layer them in this order. Let
(06:23):
me explain so a quicker wonder if you confused about
the different types of sunscreen. So mineral sunscreen is also
called a physical sunscreen or also called an inorganic sunscreen.
So if you see those terms all the same thing
that essentially, and I'm really like giving you top line
here sits on the surface of the skin, whereas a
chemical sunscreen another name for that is an organic sunscreen.
(06:43):
They contain like little organic molecules and chemical bonds, and
they absorb energy from the UV radiation, so it feels
a bit more like skincare. So, yes, you've said you've
got a.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Mineral sunscreens are the ones that all over the news
last month. They were because you know, plot twist. They
all actually come from the same manufacturer.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And yet I mean generally speaking, they're harder to get
an elegant formula because they're creating physical law. They're going
to be thick and sticky, which is why. And you
do find a good one, you're like, whoa, yeah, yes,
you can layer and that is the perfect way to layer.
So your chemical sunscreen first, So you put your chemical
sunscreen on. That's absorbed into the skin to be effective.
So you just put it on your last step of
your skincare. You know how they say, wait twenty minutes.
(07:25):
The jury's out on that, but they's got a little
hand fan speed it up. Yeah, but that's mostly for
chemical sunscreens because they kind of go in and sit down.
They need a minute to sit down, so then you
find their seats. Yeah, so you've and I generally wait, anyway,
do my skincare. Then I've done, let's say, for example,
my chemical sunscreen. Then you want to add your tinted
mineral wonderful. That is great. That is basically like adding
(07:48):
an added bonus. So that kind of sits on the
surface of the skin and reflects and deflects the UV rays.
It's like kneading iron.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
So you eat a steak, but then have a supplement
just for funzies.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Sure, except for don't do that. Go to your doctor
and get tested for your iron first. Yeah, I mean,
I know, I know, I know. Yes, it's like packing
an overcoat when you've already got a jacket on. Oh,
a raincoach if you yes. And so a tinted version
is really good because that generally will have iron oxides
in it, which is a form of sunscreen like a
SPF protection. So you're combining the two. So if you
(08:20):
let your chemical settle ideally ten to fifteen minutes, do
your hair, put your shoes on, I don't know, and
then you're topping up with your mineral. But you can
also layer two chemicals. I often do that, so you
can do chemical sunscreen and then another chemical sunscreen. So
I'll do like a chemical clear you know nothing, and
then I'll do a chemical tinted. Reason being is you
will never wear enough tinted sunscreen, whether it's chemical or mineral,
(08:43):
to get the full SBF protection. You just can't. You
would look like you've got sixteen layers of foundation on.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I have such good example of that, the Cosmetics SPF fifty.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, it's so thick. Years ago. Hannah English did that
for Mama Mea. We'll link it in the show notes.
She used the half tea spoon, yes, and she it
looked like she was dripping in foundation. You can never
do that, but you can layer chemical and chemical. That's
absolutely fine. Just keep in mind, say you've got an
SPF ThReD sunscreen and then you lay her on an
SBF twenty. The numbers don't it up. It's not mass.
(09:15):
So you've got SPF thirty and sp fifty for example,
that's not SPF eighty. It doesn't work like that. Also,
two chemicals might pill. I know. One's the different ones
that I can. You know, a chemical and a physical
might pill. So just learn what layers work together. Also,
just if you want more or you want to find
the write info on that stuff. Doctor Michelle Wong. We've
had her on New Beauty lad Muffins Science. She is phenomenal.
(09:35):
She's got a whole website and if you do want
more information that is factual and scientific and correct, head
to doctor Michelle Wong's website. So what I love firstly
is she's a genius and she missed us most like
all skincare stuff at mostly sunscreen. She also then does
like a video version and a written version depending on
how you like to consume your content. Ohyes, but one
(09:56):
thing that oftentimes when we're having this chemical versus mineral
debate is people think that chemical sunscreens absorb the heat
and will making malasma worse, and that's really not true.
She says, chemical sunscreens you not significantly cause malasma by
heating the skin. Both chemical and physical sunscreen work by
absorbing UV and converting it to heat. But the amount
of heat generated is so small it's undetectable. So what
(10:19):
you like, Yeah, whatever you like, and use enough of it,
reapply frequently. Sunscreen is only one form of sun protection. Hat, sunglasses,
upf whatever, plose, get out of the sun please. I
love that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, And you know what, the biggest rule is your
favorite sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We don't care what it is, as long as you're
using it. Yeah. Like, for example, I did my skincare
this morning, I did my sunscreen, and then I did
I think, I did my hair and everything. I was
like foundation while I west today and I ended up
wearing an SBA fifty tinted sunscreen. But just because I
liked the finish as a foundation exactly, you'd already actually
put I'm watching for something and I was like, oh,
I like the way this sits on it. Yeah, all right.
(10:58):
Question two Becky asked, Hi, Kelly and Lee of listener OnlyFans.
Do you think she means? O? Oh g I first
time please actually got a secret toe channel. I'm like,
you are on the wrong place. Come over to my toe.
Don't showed it up. It's a great idea. Oh my god,
you could note. I saw a girl the other day
she partially choose food and puts it in a bag
(11:20):
and posts it people. She's making thousands of dollars. We're
in the wrong job. You could do something with your
weird toes. Becka says, I'm a fellow lazy girl and
I need your opinion. I have dark brown, wavy, fine
hair and not heaps of it thanks to postpardon, and
I'm a morning shower person. Firstly, I love this detail.
This helps us as much detail now. Sometimes we read
a question, we're like, we need to know this, this this. Yeah,
(11:42):
so thank you. You are a good girl, Becka. She says,
I'm heading back to full time work with two kids,
and I want to know should I invest in nanoplasty
or hair keratin or the wet to dry dice in
straightener are usually just air dry or do a quick
blow dry. Thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks. Girls. I would
like you to look at my hair Lee as a
(12:03):
exhibit a of y are you Becca but blonde? Yes?
No you're not. Your hair looks great today?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Nope, I look like a bin chicken. Look at the
fried flyaways. Which is why I'm like, I reckon the
treatments over just a blow dry, because a blow dry,
your hair is still gonna look not right.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Every morning it even if it's if you won't want to.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
If you've got the keratin or the none o whatever
it's called.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I always think of like a nose too. I think nanoplastia,
like getting your nose done. Yeah, but that's ryo plastic.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
But anyway, I just think that do that one because
then it's just worth the investment and then you literally
can just let it air dry.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I agree, it saves you time. I could not agree more. Oh,
let me explain the difference between those two things. So
because you've tried both of them, right, I not. Well,
I get a version of it. So, I mean, it's
essentially all the same thing, but they like to market
each other off each other, to say ones where it's
like having gel or buy a like it's just all
shit on your nails. It's gonna make some look good,
but we'll do some damage. So firstly, I would definitely
(13:03):
get the smoothing slash straightening treatment because every morning you
wake up, you will love yourself sick. Yes, it's an
outlay of let's just say, roughly five hundred dollars, but
it will last as long as your hair grows. So
your hair will grow out from your head, that part
will be natural texture, but where they started at the root,
that will continue to be the beautiful, smooth texture. Yes,
(13:24):
so I probably get I mean I need it, minds
to you, but ideally every five months. And because your
hair grows fast though fast, and particularly where it's short,
I can't really do this slip back when it's gross
because I've always had really straight, quite nice hair, but
postpart and mind just went a totally different texture. Rude.
I've got lines, main heads, not a nice postpartum. I
have less time and someone at my ankles and you're
(13:45):
giving me worse hair. Yeah, rude, rude. So there's like,
let's just say keratin and nanoplasty just to give you
the two sort of categories. Keratin is aimed at straightening
and smoothing. Frizz. They use keratin. They used to use formaldehyde.
That's why nanoplasty loves saying keratin's bad. You can get
that really sort of smooth, glossy finish. It reduces frizz,
(14:07):
adds shine and smoothness. Brands don't use formaldehyde anymore. They've
got a replacement chemical. If you wanted like dead pins straight,
like straight, straight straight, you'd go for keroten. And that
would be for someone that maybe has like railey curly
or coily hair that wants straight.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That also is quite frizzy, and then they want it
straight because if you had like.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Our hair, it would look awful. Well, you can also
do different levels once you've so nanoplasty is more about
treatment and nourishing your hair, while alsot straightening it. So
they use what's called nanotechnology. He's the word an amino acids.
So you'll get like a naturally looking smoothness, but not
ultra sleek. Do whatever you want. I personally get karasilk,
(14:50):
so it's keratin treatment from kerrasilk. Kara silk's name is
because they used to this technology, used to use real silk.
Now they leave little wormies alone and they use a
vegan version of silk. So when I go and get
mine done, they say, do you want like there's names
for it, let's say like light or heavy, and I've
had both. And it's so that like you say, you've
got wavy hair, yeah, a nice wave if you probably
(15:10):
just want no frieze, but steal some texture and body. Yeah.
Gone are the days where it looks like you've like helmeted. Yes.
And for me they literally just blow dry your hair,
put the solution on, straighten your hair, wash it out.
I'm done in an hour. I'll put my hair up.
I don't have to wear it home for three days.
I need to try it. Oh it's life changing, Kelly,
I know I need to try it. So these are
(15:31):
all similar versions. Just research what your place does or
what friends have done, or jump in the ubidy Facebook
group or your community group on Facebook. You know if
you're in like your Suburbs group. I love my Suburbs
group and say hey, I'm thinking of this. Has anyone
got one or has anyone got to sell on? You
will love yourself sick. Then of course you can still
heat stull if you want to, but I just then
use an air dry barb Most days, like today I
did an air dry barm and then because we're a
(15:53):
bit later than normal, I just did a few little
tongs and it looks so pretty. I mean, I wouldn't
have that wave without the tongue, but I wouldn't have
any So this is not air dried. This is dice stuff.
And no I did it. It doesn't I look like
a bitten chicken. It's awful. I just think, you know,
a couple hundred bucks, five hundred six hunds a lot
of money, but the cosper where the convenience and the
(16:13):
time is money. Yep, I would do it. And look
if you don't love it, or you think it was
too expensive or whatever, you don't have to have. It's
so funny how people have different priorities when it comes
to their routines as well. It's like Kelly has got
six different shades of pink on her eyelids, but her
hair is And also for me, anything that gives me
time back, I will pay anything, because time is life.
(16:33):
Like you can't buy time, well you can if you
get caroten like, do you know what I mean? That's
the only way to buy hacks ye, hack city, what's
your beauty bite?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, last week I had my little wise words that
were simplifying how we do skincare. Today I have a
little bit of a reminder and it's also coming off
the back of our chat about sunscreen at the start
of the app.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So little reminder. Toxicity is in the dose. Water is
toxic you have too much of it.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So that's why apps like I see people using that
stupid Yuka app or you know, they'll put and they'll
say it's got this in it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So it's a red because it's toxic. Yeah, it is
if you swum in it, like if you ate enough
apple seeds, you die, like the little things that little
seeds in apple core.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
The process that companies have to go through to be
able to sell products on the shelves in Australia is
so stringent, and I promise you no one's trying to
kill you because then you can't spend your money. Yes,
so true, nothing is toxic in the amounts that you
are ingesting it.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
If you want a great account to a follow. I
love her. Her name is that Eco Well and she
just mythbusts all of these things with science. It's not
her opinion, it's which is what that just was yeah,
but exactly, and it's like, yes, everything is the poison
makes it. It's like, my mum's quite unwell, as you know.
And the number one thing they've told her she can
only have like six hundred miles of water a day.
If she drinks too much water, she will die. Whereas
(18:10):
before I went to the cardiologists with her, I was like, Mum,
drinking my water, be healthy and they said, no, tea, soup, coffee, everything,
all her fluids. Honest, she can only have six hundred meals.
And so it's like, well there you go. Wow, you
know a lot. I mean, everything had to come from somewhere.
So even if it's natural, it can be bad for you,
and if it's a quote unquote chemical, it can be
great for you exactly. And that's the thing. A lot
(18:30):
of natural essential oils and things that's potentially formulating a
pregnancy beauty brand. There's so many essential oils you can't
use on pregnant people.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
And also if you just put it pure on someone's skin,
it would literally burn it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So yeah, cut the crap. Toxicity is in the dose.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
You've got Show and tell again, I've got wise words,
You've got Show and tell you bought a lunch box.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's my system. A lunch bag. We'll reminder of who
I used to be and I'm gonna beat her again.
So when Alexander was a baby and I was on
Matt leave and then we're going to the beach because
he was a winter baby, so he was like six
months over Christmas and it was just like I'm out
and about. I always carried a cooler bag for our
sunscreens because your car gets incredibly hot and going to
the beach gets incredibly hot. Yes, and obviously I'd have
(19:15):
drinks and stuff, but I had a separate one just
for our beauty, I mean my beauty. He had something
that is the most le Campbell thing in the entire word,
that you had a separate bag for your beauty products
at the beach. Well, in my car, it lived there
because we were going like to a park or to
the beach every single day. Like you know how you've
got the PRAM in the car, Yeah, you like, so
I had like a little kit but it had sunscreen
in it and everything, and your car Like this is
(19:37):
a bit morbid, but you know what happens if you
leave a person in a car. You cannot keep sunscreen
in a car in a hot day, throw it out
all of you. Imagine if you just left your makeup overnight.
Kelly's like, I do that. I mean I've done heaps
of times. But anything not in the middle of summer, no,
I guess. More so your skincare like your actives. You
cannot use the viteam and see that's seen in the
sun in the imagine a perfume. Eh. Yes. So the
(19:58):
reason I thought of this I was scrolling the other
day and I came across this Aussie brand. It's called
cool Kool and they have made Australia's first insulated beauty back.
So it's essentially something like this way more sheep. It
looks heaps better. But it reminded me I used to
do this, and I keep you like a little car
get I've got like a mist to conceal blah blah
blah blah. If you keep them in there, you don't
have to put an ice back in it. Just shut
(20:19):
it and it's insulated at the temperatures pretty much. You like,
shut it, shut it out, unless you know you leave
your carr in the desert sixty five years. But you
can sometime if you want to put a little cooler
thing in it, if you are going to the beach
or whatever. You know those imagine then if you did
put ice in it and you had like a misted
Do you know those crunchy things you get at the
(20:40):
pharmacy that you turn on the heat and you can
get the cooling ones too, Yeah, you just check my
those in there. So check out heads cool ko Elder
brand and they make much more stylish ones. But this
is my little kid that I've Well it's probably a
bit big, but I end up taking so much stuff
into the car, seven hundred lip balms and then I go, oh,
see up there'sll my biybro fencil. So this just lives
in my car now. But what's that coming summer? Great
(21:01):
great recommendation. Realize it's all floating around in my console.
All right. Well, on that note, I'm sad. We'll be
back in your easin eyes on Friday. Yes, if you
want to ask us a question, you can do that
our email. Can I remember it after seven and a
half years? Is you beauty at Mama mea dot com dot?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Are you there?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You go? I always want to say you body podcast
hit us up on Instagram at you Bouty podcast, jump
in the Facebook community, give Kelly a call on a
mobile number which is ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I'd love that. Actually, Hello, Oh yes, I can help season. Bye.
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