August 31, 2025 • 22 mins
Time to decode the bronzing drops obsession! Leigh & Kelly are telling us why these customisable tanning products are all over our feeds and whether they're worth the hype or if they might just make you look greasy instead of glowy. They're sharing the affordable options that do the trick and explaining why mixing anything with your sunscreen is a big no-no.
Then they're tackling the pore predicament! Can you actually shrink your pores or is it all marketing BS? They're revealing why your pores seem to get bigger with age (it's not your imagination!), sharing the ingredients that genuinely help minimise their appearance, and dropping the genius swirling technique that'll change how you apply pore-blurring primer forever.
EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Drunk Elephant D-Bronzi Anti-Pollution Sunshine Drops 30 ml $68.00
Ultra Violette Queen Screen SPF 50 Super Glow Drops-Bronzing $45.00
Morphe Hot Shot Sun Drops 30ml $26.00
e.l.f SKIN Bronzing Drops - Copper Gold, Vitamin E and Sunflower Seed Oil $20
Revolution Bright Light Bronzing Drops Bronze Scorched 23ml $24.00
W7 Golden Glow Drops - Radiant Bronzing Drops $6.99
Australian Glow Bronzing Drops with SPF 50+ Sun Drip 30ml $15.00
DB Designer Brands Endless Summer Bronzing Drops $14.99
NYX Professional Makeup Pore Filler Primer 20ml $26.99
Max Factor Miracle Touch Foundation $38.95
Disclaimer: Bronzing drops with SPF50+ should not be a substitute for your sunscreen protection.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on. Hi, friends, it's Lee
here and I'm jumping into the nothing to wear feet
because over on you beauty, We've answered some questions that
I really think might help you out. Well, I hope,
so otherwise I'm out of a job. We love giving
you honest advice. So have a listen and let me
know what you think.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty of body.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Attention attention. We are so storks. I just woke up.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Please leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
She's wearing the cutest little kitty t shirts.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Sarah.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, it's not a wake up Jeff show. It's your
Beauty with such stalks. I'm Kelly Mncarton, I'm we Campbell
and it's Q and eighty episode. It's your Beauty. It's
the podcast for your face and your body and your
hair and your fragrance and all of the beauty things. Yeah, Hi,
have you seen the drama. I mean we're at the
(01:14):
tail end of it now, but the drama that happened
between urban Decay and their skin Geneva skindin Eva.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I canny, yes, but I don't understand why everyone cares.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I mean, I don't really care, but so you know,
they're iconic setting spray the All Nighter, Yes, so very
that was launched with the help of the Skindinevia.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You think that basically put setting sprays on the map.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It one did because they used like their patent and
temperature control tech that made the formula cult favorite. Anyway,
He's not my wedding day, so on. So mid twenty
twenty five, skin Geneva announced that the collaboration had officially
ended in a very like they said it in a
bit of a salty way. They did that Urban Decay
could no longer use or replicate the original formula, and
(01:58):
I just feel like, I don't know how I like,
I get that Skindneva are a smaller business than I'm
small though, like they're still pretty successful, but everyone cares
and everyone's common under Urban Decay posts and under the
skin Dnevor posts like we'll support you, and then under
Urban Decay we're not shopping with you anymore and we're
not buying a new products, And it's like sometimes business
(02:19):
decisions are.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just made yeah, and don't need to be posted.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And the radio a very like it was a very
long term collaboration, Like it's okay that sometimes things end
and there are advancements in technology and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
There has so many I mean not that I am
telling everyone to not shop that bram, but there's so
many good setting spreece.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
There are that aren't either of those.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like it made my makeup stay so much that when
I had my makeup on at nine am on my
wedding and I was getting married at four, I couldn't
touch up because it was like, so, yeah, it's an
incredible product, but thank you for explaining it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I still I didn't really. I just it's just one
of those things that I think that people want people
to be outrage and of course, like I would hate
to see a smaller guy such what No.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I just think also it's the algorithm fault because Instagram
is all about outrage.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, rage bait, Like what are we going to get
cranky about? Well, let's see, how are we going to
get seen? Like a smaller known brand probably needs stration. Yeah,
so yeah, onto I couldn't help for ornder.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You ask me anything. You ask many questions.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm going to read is his question is he messaged
us on Instagram. Bronzing drops are everywhere on my feed
right now, but which ones are actually good? I want
that glowy skin, but need brand recommendations that won't make
me look orange.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah. I don't think that the formulas these days, if
you're buying one that isn't completely out of your Like
if you've got really fair skin and you buy a
deep tanning drop to wear on your face, yes you
will go orange. But if you buy one that's right
for your skin tone, like a fair to medium tanning drop,
it won't make you orange. I just am not a
huge fan. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh my god, that's what I was going to say.
So the whole thing started. Obviously it's not the very
very first one, but bronzing drops blew up thanks to
Drunk Elephant the d Bronze Anti Pollution Sunshine Drops sixty
eight dollars. Oh, how the whole thing started.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm thinking about ten Wow. Yeah, I read this, and
that's why I don't like them. I don't mind bronzing drops.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But like the drops then that you customize.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Exactly and then you put it in your skincarel whatnot,
and it bronzes your face. I don't like them though,
because all it does is kind of like then makes
your pimentation or anthony sky like, Yeah, that's why I
don't like bronzing drops in terms of a tan bronzing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Right, I'm assuming she means makeup, so that makes more sense.
Like drunk kentle elephants sort of kicked it off and
then every tween want a drunk elephant, And then mum
was like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
The whole why is the elephant drunk? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Why is the elephant drunk? He would have to drink
or she would have to drink so much.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They're lives.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So the whole point of bronzing drops is that you
can tailor and customize your routine, so you can add
them a drop or whatever to your moisturizer, your serum,
you foundation, and oil. Just please never add anything like
that to your sunscreen, because we don't cocktail our sunscreens
unless which is the one bronzing drop that I use,
not often but often for me. You know how ultraviolet
(05:13):
brought out the illuminating drops and the bronzing drops that
can be mixed and their spit fifty can be mixed
with their sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They've made specific that's product clever that can be mixed
with Ye so smart because people like to customize.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Totally, and it's I get that so honestly. Besides mixing
with your sunscreen, you can use our bronzing drop in
your moisturizer, in your serum, in your foundation, in your
face oil, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I just don't really like.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It doesn't excite me. I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It tends to make people look oily, not orange. And
and I'm a fan of the globe.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I would just wear a foundation in my face
shade and then bronze the areas that need to be bronze.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, that's the thing, because by putting bronzing drops into
your moisturizer or your foundation, you're then turning your face
a different shade to everything else. So it's like, look,
then it's not going to match your foundation. I think
that the ten year olds doing their makeup routines using
all of their drunk and confused people now they're ten
years old, and they squirt the bronzing drops into the
(06:14):
pump one and then they apply all of the moisturizer
with the bronzing drops all over their face and they
look glorious because they're ten and they're sitting in front
of lights. In reality, you kind of just look really
greasy when you do that all the wrong color or
a dark, greasy shade of yourself. Look, if you've got
a foundation that's too light, it is great way to
(06:35):
warm it up to your right skin tone. You could
exactly as a contour, like you know whatever. I'm just
not a massive fan, so i can't tell you either everywhere,
but I've got some recommendations, and the ones that have
a glow in them, like most of them do. Yeah,
but a bronzer is meant to not like it's meant
to contourer.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And yeah, I mean might want some luminosity, but applied
in the strategic way, it's all over.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's just never really works unless you're on holidays.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I reckon sometimes some like if I'm on holidays, I
might do, you know, everything sunscreen and then a tiny
bit of like tinted moisturizer with a bronzing drop, So
I don't really have foundation anyway. The Morphi one is
twenty six dollars. It's got a lot of great reviews. Obviously,
drunk Elephant exists. I've brought kind of affordable ones because
I think if you want to, I also don't.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I've never I mean this, it sounds like I hate
bronzing drops. I don't hate bronzing drops. I just don't
really see I don't reach for them. Yeah, and so
I certainly have never tried a really outrageously expensive one
that was astronomically better than an affordable one, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And it's one of those products that it's not you know,
you need a tiny bit as well, it's not your
whole coverage. It's like, yeah, you're mixing it with something
so you can get away with kind of anything. So
the Morphi one's good. One I do have and love.
It's the Revolution Beauty one. It's twenty four dollars. I
got mine at price sign. I use that as a
like a highlighter. Yes, you talked about that. Yeah, Elf
Cosmetics has got a lot of great reviews. That's twenty bucks.
(07:58):
If you just want to try one and see if
you're actually gonna use it. W seven you know how
that a sweat house and everything's like basically free six
ninety nine there's a brand that I was really intrigued by.
Actually I should buy for research purposes, the Australian Glow.
There's is twenty dollars and it's also SBF or so
you could wear it as your SPF if you were.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You're look real greasy half a teaspoon of bonzi.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, so keep in mind if you are getting one
with sunscreen in it, that's an added bonus. It is
not your sun's screens because you're just going to use.
And lastly, designer brand, the dB cous The next one
is just over ten bucks, so why not try an
affordable one or go into you know, it's hard with
the chemist brands, but going into Mecca and Sephora and
just play with them all in the back of your
(08:44):
hand to see the color. Some people want more pigments,
some people want more shimmer.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I just don't really use them, so I would just
be like, if they're all over your feed.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And you don't really know, keep scrolling.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. And it's like I know lots of women of
all different ages and in real life, I mean, and
you know them in real life. I know them in
real life. The only people I know that do use
bronzing drops on the red are people on my phone,
not in my real life, like, and I'm not saying
that because people who get dirty hole on Instagram or
(09:17):
something in the group who uses bronzing drops and actually
really loves them.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I only pack them for holidays. Yes, I feel like person.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
In your everyday routine. I'd be more likely to use
a blush drop because I love the sheer pop of
color on my cheek that looks so healthy. But that's
because I want that area to glow anyway, This just
in God, a lovely producer has given us some information
as to the drunk elephants breaking news Drunk Elephant.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The name was inspired by a myth oh that elephants
consume fermented marula fruit, and that reflects the brands philosophy
because they have a rule of fruit in a lot
of their things. That reflects the brands philosophy of using
natural ingredients that work.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So none of the elephants are actually drunk. Maybe they are.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Maybe they found the fruit on the floor that's gone
all weird because you know how it goes like fermented,
and they got drunk.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Like that movie where there was like a shipwreck and
mafia was they had the cocaine and the sharks ate
all the cocaine with Yes, yeah, a bit like that.
Real should bring out a beauty brand called Cocaine Shark,
Cocaine Shark and it makes something just a word. All right,
(10:28):
Carrie has emailed you beauty Lee and Kel. I've heard
conflicting advice about whether you can actually shrink pause or
if it's just marketing bs. My nose paws are so
visible even with makeup on. Is there any ingredient or
treatment that actually works to minionize their appearance? And willing
to invest if it's worth it? Long time less start
first time questioner, love this.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You hit the nail on the head with your marketing
bs well, but also the language you use, so you
cannot shrink your pause. You can minimize the appearance the appearance.
So you'll often see that term used on cellulite products
as well, because you can minimize the appearance, but it's
not actually removing the problem.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I would say the poor products are still lot more
effective at reducing the appearance then, so we like agreed,
so let's look.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm with you. I My pors have used to bother me,
but now also it's an age thing. So you know
how everything just SAgs.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Don't they get fifty percent bigger as you get older
or something relidless.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
But every time we talk about pauls lot.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's just just really stuck out.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So mine and right here, like in my apples, they're
just starting to get bigger.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh okay, yeah, so good. I've never noticed them.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well I think I was lucky in that. You know,
in my youth, I didn't have a problem with pause,
so mine are now just starting to age naturally. But
I think if you had bigger pause and then you're aging,
which we all are, they're going to get bigger and
you're like, let's bit rude. So no, you can't shrink
your paws, but we can help. So retinol of course,
your retinols, your dam and as are going to help.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Beha's yes, Paula's choice. A lot of people swear by that.
Paula's choice. Bha is folliant, Swipe is wipe. Put it
on those areas a couple of times a week. People
swear by it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I agree, So I like a bha aha combo
only a couple of times a week because your aha
is getting rid of sort of surface debris, but your
bha goes in a little bit deeper and kind of
washes out the poor I feel like there's a TV
ad where it goes or is that a teeth cleaning
ad anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So I know what you mean though, because that's another
thing is that people think that their paws have gotten
bigger sometimes they haven't, or they think that they've got
lots of black heads. There's that big difference between a
black head and then a sebaceous filament that is just
a build up of It's not a black head because
you there's no point squeezing it, but it's just funny anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Adized oil seedbum comes to the surface, oxygen hits it,
and it goes kind of a weird gray color.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah color, But it's not a black head. Even though
when you squeeze your nose you'll see a little tiny worm,
but there's no black head. Is a block like a plug,
like a proper like you'll squeeze it and the plug
unplugs and goes, Oh my god, how fun they Sometimes
they're just recurring. I've one in the middle of my
(13:06):
chest and all my belly. That's like a recurring.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
What's going on in here. Hopefully the video can't. There
was a tiny blackhead in my eyebrow.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Was it maybe though because of it in grown hair?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't know, but I'll have a look. Oh no,
it's too late now. I squeezed it so hard that
I split the skin open like a split.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Oh no, I can't tell.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm a maniac anyway. So you're exfoliating. Retinol will help
sort of restrict the pause. Again, we're not doing it's
not permanent, but you know, vitamin ain and retinol's nice
sin in mine is actually a really good one for this.
So that's an antioxidant and you know, kind of falls
into the vitamin seacamp a bit more gentle. It's actually
quite preventive. It will help them getting really stretchy over time.
And I just love that sunscreen. I kind of touched
(13:45):
on this last week when we talked about creepy neck.
See how that that lovely lady that was asking about
sunscreen like destroys your collagen and elastin. Again, that's why
sunscreen or sun oh my gosh, belind sun exposure. I'm
not talking about sun baking. I'm just being outside in
the rays. It makes everything just go eh and so
it destroys the collagen elestin. So sunscreen will help our
(14:06):
lovely lady from last week with her creepy neck like me,
but also pause because otherwise you can put everything on
and try every active ingredient. But sunscreen is going to
help keep the integrity of the cells so they don't
get really lazy.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Because Kerrie has said that she's willing to invest, so
it could be worth going to speak to a skin
therapist or ethecision. That's such a hard about your skincare
goals because sometimes things like micro needling or RF radio
frequency micro needling or even some certain pills can really
help with the appearance of pause, mainly because they are
(14:42):
making like your skin is so strong and healthy to
contiguerate treatments.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, if you've got a compromise barrier, your paws are
like mare, They're like floppy.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And then in the aesthetic, in the aesthetic, it's all aesthetic.
But always remember that there are such brilliant poor smoothing,
poor blurring the products where I come in. Oh, please
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
My biggest win with my poor and it depends you
said you're on your nose, So I kind of spot
make up treat that area a blurring primer. So I've
got a few to recommend. I love the NYX Professional
one that's twenty seven dollars so I've never paid that.
That's a price time. You can get it anywhere. I'm
sure you'll get it on sale. Max Factor has a
really good one called Miracle Touch Liquid Illusion. There's heaps
(15:28):
of them. Like you want to look for the words blurring, smoothing.
What you do is on the area. You use a
bit of the primer. I don't use it all over
because I just they tend to be quite madifying as well,
because you don't want shine to show the pause. So
I get whatever primer I'm using that's blurring or poor minimizing,
and you swirl it because it kind of think of
like spack filling and way. Yeah, so if you instead
(15:51):
of just swiping it, if you swirl, it kind of grows.
It sounds like it's going into the poor it's not
going to clog your pause. But if you swirl it
over your nose, my lovely friend, I do it on
my cheeks. Swell, swell, swirl in a circular motion. Then
you do your foundation. It's amazing swirl. I never swell before.
Don't just swim swell.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well because you're spack feeling effectively.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yes, then you do your foundation and then I just
set with a blurring translucent just in my poor area,
so you know, my inner cheeks, I don't today my
nose have just because I'm quite shiny down the center.
But where your paws bother. You treat that different to
the rest of your makeup. Yeah, and you gotta do
that every day. Sorry, there's no like bing bang bong.
I've done something and now I've got no pause.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
But you'll notice that if you're focusing on your skin
care and potentially treatments as well, that you'll have like
you won't notice them as much when you're trying to
cover them with you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I just have a player around with me. I'm so
in general, you don't got pause. Everyone happens, but anything
with luminosity or shimmer is going to highlight them. So
keep that all to the outside of your face as well.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
She definitely needs to steer clear of the bronzing drops.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh yeah, no bronzing drops for you. Well, not on
your nose, No, definitely not no, okay, Beauty Barde we
all have a hairtowel, right, like a hair turban that
we dry our hair with.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, I know that's my point. Okay a lot
of people might not.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But you want to use like a microfiber towel, a
separate towel than your body rough you know, terry toweling
towel to dry your hair because your hair's where it
roughs up the cuticles that can really damage your hair
and just won't look smooth. We don't all have one.
That's fine, I've got eighty. That's my job. Your old
T shirt that has ended up in your pajama pile
(17:31):
or maybe going to be donated, well not donated, probably
thrown out if it's that old T shirt, like a
cotton T shirt is the best thing to dry your
hair with because it's a smooth texture, it's not rough
and terry toweling. So just keep like I when I said,
sometimes I've just tried it because I have the real deal.
But you literally just get an old, clean T shirt
and then you use that to dry hair. You can
(17:52):
even flip it over and make it into a hair to.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Popping Yeah, yeah, clipping. It's good for curly hair, really
good for curly hair.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, but I like, you can just use it even
if you're traveling and you don't have one.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Oh that's a good tip.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, and then you just wash it and then put
it back.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You don't have to be old. Like you can just
use a T shirt. Oh yeah, totally, but like you
don't want to use you you kitty shirt. No, you
do pussy shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
And you know, downgraded a T shirt. It's got to
stay on it or whatever. It's a really good thing
to dry hair with and it won't rub up with
cuticles because it's a lovely smooth cotton.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Mm. My hair's in awful condition today.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So mine is just fresh out of the shower because
I was running late and so it's flat and shiny.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I need to come over and get one at some
of your towels though, because I don't have any left.
You old two shirt, your old T shirts. You know
what I was just reminded of. I've thought of something
because you know how last week you'll talk you had
your full tack. I hate why do you talk about
your feet so much?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Beauty feet a lot? Like you know, oh the deodorant,
rubbing shit on the shoe. If you haven't listened, I've
solved your problems of blisters.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yes, go listen to that episode. But if you really
do need to break in a shoe that day, I
told you this hack years ago, and I warnted the
podiatress to cover thereas because they were going to have
heart attackts you remember this, it's been so long since.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
The one that's coming to mind is how you survived
at a wedding and dancing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yes, that's what I haven't mentioned.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It was on like the first few weeks of you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's what I mean. So it's like six years ago.
So a reminder shoe so you could dance all night. Yeah,
uncomfortable show.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Oh my gosh. The diatress closure and content warning like
this is not a prescribed way to do things.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It is probably It was actually quite funny because after
that episode, I'll never forget a diatress reach out. She goes, Yeah,
it's not good advice, but it works, so I love it. Okay,
So you can go to the pharmacy and ask for
you just grub it over the counter numbing cream. People
get it for tattoos.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, tattoos. You can also get the like I get
it for Alexander. My son if he's having a blood test.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Oh okay, yeah, like anything like that. You just asked
for it over the counter, put that on, and then
there's this stuff with that on where well, okay, wherever
it's going to rub or so.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Say, I'm sorry, I swear you did it the soles
of your feet so you could do it all night.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I do so. But if it's going to rub around
the back, I'm holding up a shoe if you're listening.
But if if so I know that that was going
to rub, or I suspected that the backstrap was going
to rub, I would put it around the back of
my heel. I would also put it on the sole
of my foot. I'm sure you were in like a
stiletto and you dance all night at a whinning. You
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couldn't fine, and I was like, I could not feel
my feet.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Tomorrow never comes, so don't worry about what happens when
it wears off and you take your shoes and.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Well, exactly, yeah, your feet is gonna hurt, but it's
better than dancing. Ever since I was younger, my auntie,
who's a very chic lady, I think she gets a
little bit mortified at my boganism sometimes. But she told
me that when I was a young girl, that she
never wants to see me taking my shoes off at Well,
I've done it many times. But you know, you can't
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leave the races, you can't leave the night club. It's
just such a trashy. Look. I'm not saying that I've
never done it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
We've all done it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
We've all done it. But it's been instilled in me.
Never take your shoes off.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Remember the other month when I lost my car in
the city and I walked around for so long, and
when I finally got to my car and took my
shoes off, they were pulled with blood exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
But I've done similar things because it's in my head.
Do not take your shoes off. Do not take your
shoes off. This is a hack. Yeah, you're not trashy,
you're just damaging. It's just a psa that this happen exists.
If you spray your ankle or hurt yourself, don't come
at me because I've given you a warning.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah. On that note, that was a fun one. I'm
going to try and put a ban on any foot
content for memo foot Yeah, let's not do feats okay, okay, great.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
On that note, back to my team mentes.
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Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on. Hi, friends, it's Lee
here and I'm jumping into the nothing to wear feet
because over on you beauty, We've answered some questions that
I really think might help you out. Well, I hope,
so otherwise I'm out of a job. We love giving
you honest advice. So have a listen and let me
know what you think.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty of body.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Attention attention. We are so storks. I just woke up.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Please leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
She's wearing the cutest little kitty t shirts.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Sarah.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, it's not a wake up Jeff show. It's your
Beauty with such stalks. I'm Kelly Mncarton, I'm we Campbell
and it's Q and eighty episode. It's your Beauty. It's
the podcast for your face and your body and your
hair and your fragrance and all of the beauty things. Yeah, Hi,
have you seen the drama. I mean we're at the
(01:14):
tail end of it now, but the drama that happened
between urban Decay and their skin Geneva skindin Eva.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I canny, yes, but I don't understand why everyone cares.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I mean, I don't really care, but so you know,
they're iconic setting spray the All Nighter, Yes, so very
that was launched with the help of the Skindinevia.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You think that basically put setting sprays on the map.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It one did because they used like their patent and
temperature control tech that made the formula cult favorite. Anyway,
He's not my wedding day, so on. So mid twenty
twenty five, skin Geneva announced that the collaboration had officially
ended in a very like they said it in a
bit of a salty way. They did that Urban Decay
could no longer use or replicate the original formula, and
(01:58):
I just feel like, I don't know how I like,
I get that Skindneva are a smaller business than I'm
small though, like they're still pretty successful, but everyone cares
and everyone's common under Urban Decay posts and under the
skin Dnevor posts like we'll support you, and then under
Urban Decay we're not shopping with you anymore and we're
not buying a new products, And it's like sometimes business
(02:19):
decisions are.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just made yeah, and don't need to be posted.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And the radio a very like it was a very
long term collaboration, Like it's okay that sometimes things end
and there are advancements in technology and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
There has so many I mean not that I am
telling everyone to not shop that bram, but there's so
many good setting spreece.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
There are that aren't either of those.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like it made my makeup stay so much that when
I had my makeup on at nine am on my
wedding and I was getting married at four, I couldn't
touch up because it was like, so, yeah, it's an
incredible product, but thank you for explaining it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I still I didn't really. I just it's just one
of those things that I think that people want people
to be outrage and of course, like I would hate
to see a smaller guy such what No.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I just think also it's the algorithm fault because Instagram
is all about outrage.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, rage bait, Like what are we going to get
cranky about? Well, let's see, how are we going to
get seen? Like a smaller known brand probably needs stration. Yeah,
so yeah, onto I couldn't help for ornder.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You ask me anything. You ask many questions.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm going to read is his question is he messaged
us on Instagram. Bronzing drops are everywhere on my feed
right now, but which ones are actually good? I want
that glowy skin, but need brand recommendations that won't make
me look orange.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah. I don't think that the formulas these days, if
you're buying one that isn't completely out of your Like
if you've got really fair skin and you buy a
deep tanning drop to wear on your face, yes you
will go orange. But if you buy one that's right
for your skin tone, like a fair to medium tanning drop,
it won't make you orange. I just am not a
huge fan. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh my god, that's what I was going to say.
So the whole thing started. Obviously it's not the very
very first one, but bronzing drops blew up thanks to
Drunk Elephant the d Bronze Anti Pollution Sunshine Drops sixty
eight dollars. Oh, how the whole thing started.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm thinking about ten Wow. Yeah, I read this, and
that's why I don't like them. I don't mind bronzing drops.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But like the drops then that you customize.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Exactly and then you put it in your skincarel whatnot,
and it bronzes your face. I don't like them though,
because all it does is kind of like then makes
your pimentation or anthony sky like, Yeah, that's why I
don't like bronzing drops in terms of a tan bronzing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Right, I'm assuming she means makeup, so that makes more sense.
Like drunk kentle elephants sort of kicked it off and
then every tween want a drunk elephant, And then mum
was like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
The whole why is the elephant drunk? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Why is the elephant drunk? He would have to drink
or she would have to drink so much.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They're lives.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So the whole point of bronzing drops is that you
can tailor and customize your routine, so you can add
them a drop or whatever to your moisturizer, your serum,
you foundation, and oil. Just please never add anything like
that to your sunscreen, because we don't cocktail our sunscreens
unless which is the one bronzing drop that I use,
not often but often for me. You know how ultraviolet
(05:13):
brought out the illuminating drops and the bronzing drops that
can be mixed and their spit fifty can be mixed
with their sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They've made specific that's product clever that can be mixed
with Ye so smart because people like to customize.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Totally, and it's I get that so honestly. Besides mixing
with your sunscreen, you can use our bronzing drop in
your moisturizer, in your serum, in your foundation, in your
face oil, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I just don't really like.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It doesn't excite me. I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It tends to make people look oily, not orange. And
and I'm a fan of the globe.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I would just wear a foundation in my face
shade and then bronze the areas that need to be bronze.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, that's the thing, because by putting bronzing drops into
your moisturizer or your foundation, you're then turning your face
a different shade to everything else. So it's like, look,
then it's not going to match your foundation. I think
that the ten year olds doing their makeup routines using
all of their drunk and confused people now they're ten
years old, and they squirt the bronzing drops into the
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pump one and then they apply all of the moisturizer
with the bronzing drops all over their face and they
look glorious because they're ten and they're sitting in front
of lights. In reality, you kind of just look really
greasy when you do that all the wrong color or
a dark, greasy shade of yourself. Look, if you've got
a foundation that's too light, it is great way to
(06:35):
warm it up to your right skin tone. You could
exactly as a contour, like you know whatever. I'm just
not a massive fan, so i can't tell you either everywhere,
but I've got some recommendations, and the ones that have
a glow in them, like most of them do. Yeah,
but a bronzer is meant to not like it's meant
to contourer.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And yeah, I mean might want some luminosity, but applied
in the strategic way, it's all over.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's just never really works unless you're on holidays.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I reckon sometimes some like if I'm on holidays, I
might do, you know, everything sunscreen and then a tiny
bit of like tinted moisturizer with a bronzing drop, So
I don't really have foundation anyway. The Morphi one is
twenty six dollars. It's got a lot of great reviews. Obviously,
drunk Elephant exists. I've brought kind of affordable ones because
I think if you want to, I also don't.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I've never I mean this, it sounds like I hate
bronzing drops. I don't hate bronzing drops. I just don't
really see I don't reach for them. Yeah, and so
I certainly have never tried a really outrageously expensive one
that was astronomically better than an affordable one, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And it's one of those products that it's not you know,
you need a tiny bit as well, it's not your
whole coverage. It's like, yeah, you're mixing it with something
so you can get away with kind of anything. So
the Morphi one's good. One I do have and love.
It's the Revolution Beauty one. It's twenty four dollars. I
got mine at price sign. I use that as a
like a highlighter. Yes, you talked about that. Yeah, Elf
Cosmetics has got a lot of great reviews. That's twenty bucks.
(07:58):
If you just want to try one and see if
you're actually gonna use it. W seven you know how
that a sweat house and everything's like basically free six
ninety nine there's a brand that I was really intrigued by.
Actually I should buy for research purposes, the Australian Glow.
There's is twenty dollars and it's also SBF or so
you could wear it as your SPF if you were.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You're look real greasy half a teaspoon of bonzi.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, so keep in mind if you are getting one
with sunscreen in it, that's an added bonus. It is
not your sun's screens because you're just going to use.
And lastly, designer brand, the dB cous The next one
is just over ten bucks, so why not try an
affordable one or go into you know, it's hard with
the chemist brands, but going into Mecca and Sephora and
just play with them all in the back of your
(08:44):
hand to see the color. Some people want more pigments,
some people want more shimmer.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I just don't really use them, so I would just
be like, if they're all over your feed.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And you don't really know, keep scrolling.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. And it's like I know lots of women of
all different ages and in real life, I mean, and
you know them in real life. I know them in
real life. The only people I know that do use
bronzing drops on the red are people on my phone,
not in my real life, like, and I'm not saying
that because people who get dirty hole on Instagram or
(09:17):
something in the group who uses bronzing drops and actually
really loves them.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I only pack them for holidays. Yes, I feel like person.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
In your everyday routine. I'd be more likely to use
a blush drop because I love the sheer pop of
color on my cheek that looks so healthy. But that's
because I want that area to glow anyway, This just
in God, a lovely producer has given us some information
as to the drunk elephants breaking news Drunk Elephant.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The name was inspired by a myth oh that elephants
consume fermented marula fruit, and that reflects the brands philosophy
because they have a rule of fruit in a lot
of their things. That reflects the brands philosophy of using
natural ingredients that work.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So none of the elephants are actually drunk. Maybe they are.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Maybe they found the fruit on the floor that's gone
all weird because you know how it goes like fermented,
and they got drunk.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Like that movie where there was like a shipwreck and
mafia was they had the cocaine and the sharks ate
all the cocaine with Yes, yeah, a bit like that.
Real should bring out a beauty brand called Cocaine Shark,
Cocaine Shark and it makes something just a word. All right,
(10:28):
Carrie has emailed you beauty Lee and Kel. I've heard
conflicting advice about whether you can actually shrink pause or
if it's just marketing bs. My nose paws are so
visible even with makeup on. Is there any ingredient or
treatment that actually works to minionize their appearance? And willing
to invest if it's worth it? Long time less start
first time questioner, love this.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You hit the nail on the head with your marketing
bs well, but also the language you use, so you
cannot shrink your pause. You can minimize the appearance the appearance.
So you'll often see that term used on cellulite products
as well, because you can minimize the appearance, but it's
not actually removing the problem.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I would say the poor products are still lot more
effective at reducing the appearance then, so we like agreed,
so let's look.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm with you. I My pors have used to bother me,
but now also it's an age thing. So you know
how everything just SAgs.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Don't they get fifty percent bigger as you get older
or something relidless.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
But every time we talk about pauls lot.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's just just really stuck out.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So mine and right here, like in my apples, they're
just starting to get bigger.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh okay, yeah, so good. I've never noticed them.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well I think I was lucky in that. You know,
in my youth, I didn't have a problem with pause,
so mine are now just starting to age naturally. But
I think if you had bigger pause and then you're aging,
which we all are, they're going to get bigger and
you're like, let's bit rude. So no, you can't shrink
your paws, but we can help. So retinol of course,
your retinols, your dam and as are going to help.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Beha's yes, Paula's choice. A lot of people swear by that.
Paula's choice. Bha is folliant, Swipe is wipe. Put it
on those areas a couple of times a week. People
swear by it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I agree, So I like a bha aha combo
only a couple of times a week because your aha
is getting rid of sort of surface debris, but your
bha goes in a little bit deeper and kind of
washes out the poor I feel like there's a TV
ad where it goes or is that a teeth cleaning
ad anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So I know what you mean though, because that's another
thing is that people think that their paws have gotten
bigger sometimes they haven't, or they think that they've got
lots of black heads. There's that big difference between a
black head and then a sebaceous filament that is just
a build up of It's not a black head because
you there's no point squeezing it, but it's just funny anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Adized oil seedbum comes to the surface, oxygen hits it,
and it goes kind of a weird gray color.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah color, But it's not a black head. Even though
when you squeeze your nose you'll see a little tiny worm,
but there's no black head. Is a block like a plug,
like a proper like you'll squeeze it and the plug
unplugs and goes, Oh my god, how fun they Sometimes
they're just recurring. I've one in the middle of my
(13:06):
chest and all my belly. That's like a recurring.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
What's going on in here. Hopefully the video can't. There
was a tiny blackhead in my eyebrow.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Was it maybe though because of it in grown hair?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't know, but I'll have a look. Oh no,
it's too late now. I squeezed it so hard that
I split the skin open like a split.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Oh no, I can't tell.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm a maniac anyway. So you're exfoliating. Retinol will help
sort of restrict the pause. Again, we're not doing it's
not permanent, but you know, vitamin ain and retinol's nice
sin in mine is actually a really good one for this.
So that's an antioxidant and you know, kind of falls
into the vitamin seacamp a bit more gentle. It's actually
quite preventive. It will help them getting really stretchy over time.
And I just love that sunscreen. I kind of touched
(13:45):
on this last week when we talked about creepy neck.
See how that that lovely lady that was asking about
sunscreen like destroys your collagen and elastin. Again, that's why
sunscreen or sun oh my gosh, belind sun exposure. I'm
not talking about sun baking. I'm just being outside in
the rays. It makes everything just go eh and so
it destroys the collagen elestin. So sunscreen will help our
(14:06):
lovely lady from last week with her creepy neck like me,
but also pause because otherwise you can put everything on
and try every active ingredient. But sunscreen is going to
help keep the integrity of the cells so they don't
get really lazy.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Because Kerrie has said that she's willing to invest, so
it could be worth going to speak to a skin
therapist or ethecision. That's such a hard about your skincare
goals because sometimes things like micro needling or RF radio
frequency micro needling or even some certain pills can really
help with the appearance of pause, mainly because they are
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making like your skin is so strong and healthy to
contiguerate treatments.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, if you've got a compromise barrier, your paws are
like mare, They're like floppy.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And then in the aesthetic, in the aesthetic, it's all aesthetic.
But always remember that there are such brilliant poor smoothing,
poor blurring the products where I come in. Oh, please
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
My biggest win with my poor and it depends you
said you're on your nose, So I kind of spot
make up treat that area a blurring primer. So I've
got a few to recommend. I love the NYX Professional
one that's twenty seven dollars so I've never paid that.
That's a price time. You can get it anywhere. I'm
sure you'll get it on sale. Max Factor has a
really good one called Miracle Touch Liquid Illusion. There's heaps
(15:28):
of them. Like you want to look for the words blurring, smoothing.
What you do is on the area. You use a
bit of the primer. I don't use it all over
because I just they tend to be quite madifying as well,
because you don't want shine to show the pause. So
I get whatever primer I'm using that's blurring or poor minimizing,
and you swirl it because it kind of think of
like spack filling and way. Yeah, so if you instead
(15:51):
of just swiping it, if you swirl, it kind of grows.
It sounds like it's going into the poor it's not
going to clog your pause. But if you swirl it
over your nose, my lovely friend, I do it on
my cheeks. Swell, swell, swirl in a circular motion. Then
you do your foundation. It's amazing swirl. I never swell before.
Don't just swim swell.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well because you're spack feeling effectively.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yes, then you do your foundation and then I just
set with a blurring translucent just in my poor area,
so you know, my inner cheeks, I don't today my
nose have just because I'm quite shiny down the center.
But where your paws bother. You treat that different to
the rest of your makeup. Yeah, and you gotta do
that every day. Sorry, there's no like bing bang bong.
I've done something and now I've got no pause.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
But you'll notice that if you're focusing on your skin
care and potentially treatments as well, that you'll have like
you won't notice them as much when you're trying to
cover them with you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I just have a player around with me. I'm so
in general, you don't got pause. Everyone happens, but anything
with luminosity or shimmer is going to highlight them. So
keep that all to the outside of your face as well.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
She definitely needs to steer clear of the bronzing drops.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh yeah, no bronzing drops for you. Well, not on
your nose, No, definitely not no, okay, Beauty Barde we
all have a hairtowel, right, like a hair turban that
we dry our hair with.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, I know that's my point. Okay a lot
of people might not.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But you want to use like a microfiber towel, a
separate towel than your body rough you know, terry toweling
towel to dry your hair because your hair's where it
roughs up the cuticles that can really damage your hair
and just won't look smooth. We don't all have one.
That's fine, I've got eighty. That's my job. Your old
T shirt that has ended up in your pajama pile
(17:31):
or maybe going to be donated, well not donated, probably
thrown out if it's that old T shirt, like a
cotton T shirt is the best thing to dry your
hair with because it's a smooth texture, it's not rough
and terry toweling. So just keep like I when I said,
sometimes I've just tried it because I have the real deal.
But you literally just get an old, clean T shirt
and then you use that to dry hair. You can
(17:52):
even flip it over and make it into a hair to.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Popping Yeah, yeah, clipping. It's good for curly hair, really
good for curly hair.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, but I like, you can just use it even
if you're traveling and you don't have one.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Oh that's a good tip.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, and then you just wash it and then put
it back.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You don't have to be old. Like you can just
use a T shirt. Oh yeah, totally, but like you
don't want to use you you kitty shirt. No, you
do pussy shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
And you know, downgraded a T shirt. It's got to
stay on it or whatever. It's a really good thing
to dry hair with and it won't rub up with
cuticles because it's a lovely smooth cotton.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Mm. My hair's in awful condition today.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So mine is just fresh out of the shower because
I was running late and so it's flat and shiny.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I need to come over and get one at some
of your towels though, because I don't have any left.
You old two shirt, your old T shirts. You know
what I was just reminded of. I've thought of something
because you know how last week you'll talk you had
your full tack. I hate why do you talk about
your feet so much?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Beauty feet a lot? Like you know, oh the deodorant,
rubbing shit on the shoe. If you haven't listened, I've
solved your problems of blisters.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yes, go listen to that episode. But if you really
do need to break in a shoe that day, I
told you this hack years ago, and I warnted the
podiatress to cover thereas because they were going to have
heart attackts you remember this, it's been so long since.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
The one that's coming to mind is how you survived
at a wedding and dancing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yes, that's what I haven't mentioned.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It was on like the first few weeks of you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's what I mean. So it's like six years ago.
So a reminder shoe so you could dance all night. Yeah,
uncomfortable show.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Oh my gosh. The diatress closure and content warning like
this is not a prescribed way to do things.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It is probably It was actually quite funny because after
that episode, I'll never forget a diatress reach out. She goes, Yeah,
it's not good advice, but it works, so I love it. Okay,
So you can go to the pharmacy and ask for
you just grub it over the counter numbing cream. People
get it for tattoos.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, tattoos. You can also get the like I get
it for Alexander. My son if he's having a blood test.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Oh okay, yeah, like anything like that. You just asked
for it over the counter, put that on, and then
there's this stuff with that on where well, okay, wherever
it's going to rub or so.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Say, I'm sorry, I swear you did it the soles
of your feet so you could do it all night.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I do so. But if it's going to rub around
the back, I'm holding up a shoe if you're listening.
But if if so I know that that was going
to rub, or I suspected that the backstrap was going
to rub, I would put it around the back of
my heel. I would also put it on the sole
of my foot. I'm sure you were in like a
stiletto and you dance all night at a whinning. You
(20:14):
couldn't fine, and I was like, I could not feel
my feet.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Tomorrow never comes, so don't worry about what happens when
it wears off and you take your shoes and.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Well, exactly, yeah, your feet is gonna hurt, but it's
better than dancing. Ever since I was younger, my auntie,
who's a very chic lady, I think she gets a
little bit mortified at my boganism sometimes. But she told
me that when I was a young girl, that she
never wants to see me taking my shoes off at Well,
I've done it many times. But you know, you can't
(20:40):
leave the races, you can't leave the night club. It's
just such a trashy. Look. I'm not saying that I've
never done it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
We've all done it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
We've all done it. But it's been instilled in me.
Never take your shoes off.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Remember the other month when I lost my car in
the city and I walked around for so long, and
when I finally got to my car and took my
shoes off, they were pulled with blood exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
But I've done similar things because it's in my head.
Do not take your shoes off. Do not take your
shoes off. This is a hack. Yeah, you're not trashy,
you're just damaging. It's just a psa that this happen exists.
If you spray your ankle or hurt yourself, don't come
at me because I've given you a warning.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah. On that note, that was a fun one. I'm
going to try and put a ban on any foot
content for memo foot Yeah, let's not do feats okay, okay, great.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
On that note, back to my team mentes.
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