May 25, 2025 • 18 mins
In this week's Beauty Bonus Q&A episode, Leigh and Kelly unlock the beauty industry's version of the Nagi Maehashi effect – proving that premium ingredients are non-negotiable whether you're whipping up caramel slice or your skincare routine!
We spill the tea on those PR freebies - tackling the question everyone's been dying to ask: just how many of those beauty products do Leigh & Kelly actually pay for? Plus, we navigate that delicate mother-daughter territory of teen body hair (we've ALL been there!) with advice ranging from beginner-friendly shaving techniques to investment-worthy laser treatments.
AND Leigh's genius illuminator hack that brightens tired eyes in seconds!
LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Bonus laser episode: Sarah Hudson on The Formula - The Truth About Laser
HAIR REMOVAL:
Finishing Touch $22.49
Woo Woo Cream $38
Nads Womens Hair Removal Cream $8.49
LEIGH'S SUGGESTION:
Becca Undereye Illuminator $54
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hello friends, E's Lee here,
and no I'm not confused. It's not Wednesday when nothing
to wear drops, but you Beauty drops on Mondays. And
this episode I'm about to put here has been one
of our most popular yet, so I thought you might
like to have a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Enjoy. Makeup is my therapy love. I'm obsessed and I
don't even feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the Daily Podcast
for your Faith.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Mccarrant, and we were literally just talking about time of air,
which makes it sound very boring.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well because it's mid to late May, and I can't
deal saying that. I read an article, which means I
saw it on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I saw a videy on TikTok. I read this very
interesting article. Don't even look at TikTok.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
The time goes fast as you get older, like it's
a real science thing because of proportional something that you
were born, the years that if you lived or something,
yes five now or five you feel like summer holidays
went anyway, yes, sir, but now half a year is
almost pass it's actually terrib Did you say who you were?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm Kelly, okay, and it's Q and a day, which
means every mind day. We answer two of your questions
and we finish off the episode with a host tank
shopping list, something no, a reminder, something not to do.
You never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You never know, So if you want to ask a question, look,
you can email us it's you Beauty at Mama mea
dot com, dot a you, or just slide into the
you Beauty Instagram dms because someone checks them and tells
us about them exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything you ask
any questions. Later on the episode, we have got a
question from a month she's asking on behalf of her
teenage daughter for advice.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Which is just so lovely. But first we have.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
An email from Claire Hile and Kelly loved the show.
You sometimes say that you bought a product when at
the chemistal shopping. Do you get sent many products from companies?
If you do, why do you buy extra products? What
makes you actually pay for those products and what have
you bought with your own money lately?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Thank you so much, Claire? Are you my husband?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Because he keeps saying, why are you buy more beauty products? Look,
Kelly and I probably have similar answers, but I'll go first.
So yeah, what happens is if you're in beauty media,
you know, whether or not you're content creator or I
guess this is more traditional media, you will be on
PR list, public relations list, and then they'll send an
email saying, hey, this lip gloss is launching, do you
want to try it?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Or sometimes they just send it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But not every brand sends to me or to Kelly
or to every publication. And also not every brand has
a public relations business like company or someone working for
them or an AU team necessarily exactly. And then also
there's so much launching at the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Obsessed with K Beauty and Jay Beauty and a lot
of that isn't represented professionally here with an agency or
something like that. And I also just bloody love beauty products.
So while we're sent a huge amount of products, and
it's not just for us, it's for the team to
trial for other purposes aside from the podcast. We get
a lot, but it's still only a tiny snippet of
(03:25):
the industry.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
For example, if you're new here, I'm obsessed with Revolution Beauty,
you can buy it online. You can get it at
a price sign I don't know who does their PR,
if they have PR. I've never been sent any.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I buy it all.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Like I said, I do a lot of J Beauty
and K beauty shopping. If I see something going viral
on Instagram, like remember that deal stick Foundation I loved God,
I went and bought that after hunting it down, like
I was like a private investigator trying to get that.
And then of course I just buy the stuff. I'll
always go back to when I'm not trialing some serums,
my my cellar water. I just love beauty, so I
(03:59):
do buy a lot. Full transparency. I put it through
my tax doesn't mean it's free though, you see. Yeah,
I was probably late twenties when I realized that it's
a tax deduction. But it doesn't mean you get all
the money back. But still, I mean, I think it's
important for me if I've seen something that I think,
oh love, and also Kelly and I get sent a lot,
but it might not be right for our skin type
(04:20):
or hair type, so like I'll pass on something for
blondes to Kelly or she'll pass on something for oily
skin to me. Yeah, So I mean I do buy
a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What about you? I shop a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I actually think that I probably don't get as much
sent to me as people assume, maybe because.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm a freelancer.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, I'm not on as many PR lists, Like there
are some companies that have just never sent me anything,
and I'm like, well.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Don't you want to be on Australia's Biggest Beautiful I'm like,
I'll just gone buy it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But the thing is, is it for us to buy something,
we have to genuinely want to try it. So sometimes
you might notice that say I or Lee might recommend
more brands, like you might see things popping.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Up regularly through the year.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
That's because we probably are on the PR list so
actually get to try all of their launches, Whereas if
we're not, something has to look really cool and exciting
for us to want to go out and spend down
money on it. So if no one else is talking
about it as well, then we're not necessarily going to
want to go spend six thirty dollars on something we've
never heard anything about it? Yeah, sense yeah, And then
one person might be like, yeah, but what about this? Well,
(05:19):
I don't know whereas you shot more, I guess you're
like very into I herb and beauty.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Jd Amazons.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I am, you do sometimes, but I'm huge on social media.
I've seen something that I have.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You're You're way more into that, Like you buy things
direct from ads like or I have to try that
because I want to report back honestly as well. I've
started to buy a few things, but I've found that
a lot of those Instagram too good to be true things, they.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Always are too good to be true.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But whereas I'm like getting a script filled at you
chemistware House or your price side and then I'm like, oh,
maybe Leane's half price or Revolution, what have you got?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And also a PR company isn't going to send us
something that's old. All of a sudden, the Paulish choice
bha yeah is gaining virality.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
On tiktop because it's not you and they're not sending it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, We're going to go out and buy it to
try it, because they're not going to send it to us,
like it's not new, why would they They're going to
send whatever new product they are launching. And I also
think that a lot of Savy brands don't have the
sort of pr.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, that's the tricky part.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's why I buy a lot of savies is because
we don't get sent a lot of savors. Not that
we get sent a lot of luxury, but it's kind
of that we need a lot of mid yeah mid
and you know now like stuff from the chemist is
up to like sixty five seventy five dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
For a seer. We always wait till it's on special
by it. Yeah, But so we're often looking for savs.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's why Kelly and I you can hear it's going
COO and Kmart and the pharmacies. But no, we definitely
don't get sent everything. We do get sent a lot,
and I also often get asked what do we do
with it all? So here at Mama Mea, we have
like beauty cupboard storage cupboards and every few times a
year we clean those out and send the shampoo and
conditioner and the kind of essentials to women's shelters and
(06:58):
then anything a bit more fancy, we do like a
beauty sale here and the money raised goes to Rise Up,
which we're very proud ambassadors for, and they help women
and families out of domestic violence situations.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I do the women's shelters a couple of times a year.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
At the end of the year, I always do heaps
of big bags for Share the Dignity. And I also
do this random thing for my girlfriend's at Christmas time
where they come over and I have everything out kind
of like a seal, kind of like what you do
at Mama Mia, and then everything goes to One year
it was Dementia Australia. Last year it was a Ronald
McDonald house. Because I saw that it was like anyway,
(07:31):
that just made me feel really good.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You never just throw out products at a god, not
unless it's like burnt our skin or something.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes now it smells like mold, which is something I
used on my hair yesterday. I realized it was a
natural hair product I hadn't used for a while. Molds
on my hair actually was mold. Anyway, after the break,
a beautiful mum wants to help solve her daughter's problems,
and we're here to help.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I would just like to say I really wish my
mother had cared as much as Ruth, because Ruth has
sent us a deer. My teenage daughter is really embarrassed
about her body hair. She has lovely fair skin and
in contrast, quite dark hair on her arms. She has
lighter and finer hair on her face. I don't notice,
but she says it's visible in the outdoors. She also
worries about the hair she calls her sideburns. I'm seeking
(08:22):
solutions to offer her while also reminding her she's absolutely
beautiful regardless. Any wisdom would be much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh, bless her, Ruth, that's so nice.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I wonder when you say eighteen, I wonder if she's
like thirteen or seventeen. I guess it doesn't really matter.
But I remember saying to my mom, like, my mom,
want to shave my legs. My mom will shaved my legs.
And she's like, no, not yet. So I just went
and got a razor. I didn't know how to do it.
No water, no.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Anything, no no.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I just swipe, swipe, sipe ow. And then I went
to her mom. I said, mum, my skin's really red,
and to go oh, I'll show you how to do it. Properly,
So Ruth, You've got a few options. I normally have very,
very hairy arms. My brother and sister growing up called
me Wookie the Wookie because I'm just such a hear Yeah,
and I'm Scottish heritage. So while I do put gradual
tan on, I've got fair skin and really dark hair.
(09:08):
I shave my arms with a men's raizer in the
shower every few days. It will not grow back darker
and longer. That's impossible.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
But also your arms, I've never felt them be spiky
the way legs are.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, No, they're definitely not, because it's a different type
of hair. But also I literally it goes. It takes
me two seconds. My legs, on the other hand, I
wear pants a lot. I will let them literally grow
like a blanket.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'm a bushy.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But you know, with shaving or anything that removes the
hair from the surface of the skin, it can't affect
the root of the hair.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Under the skin.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The reason it might feel a little bit thicker or darker, well,
definitely not darker, is that there's no tapered tip to
the hair as it grows back. So I shave my arms.
That might be a bit much for her. There's definitely
options about laser, but I'll let Kelly kind of talk
through that. Finishing Touch is an Australian brand that does
a lot of different tools, and I've talked about the
little face shaver that I keep in my car to
(09:59):
shave my mustache, not when I'm driving, but when I'm
in my car because of the light. They have lots
of different little tools that could be good for the
peach fuzz, which is what you say. I think the
hair on the side of her face, her sideburns. I
actually had hectic sideburns, like it looked like I was
wearing a helmet of hair. And then in my twenties
I had laser hair removal on the just on the
(10:20):
side of my face. But if she's not ready for laser,
depending on the age, she could try threading and that's
where they sort of remove the hair from the root.
It's like waxing, but without the wax, and they do
it with cotton thread basically. Or you could try to
pilotry cream. I thought that could help. There's a really
great brand called Woo Woo. It's an Australian brand and
it's really sort of natural and gentle or you've got
your nad's nevvy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Doesn't smell the way it used to as well.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Honestly, I only was allowed to eat when I was
a teenager.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, and I was also chewbacker.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, except a very fair chewbacker.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah. No, I'm dark when I went into the sun
that you go, dear lord.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah no, I remember hating it and Mum wouldn't let
me either, And so I tried to like bleach my sideburns,
but then they were just orange, like I.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Think more rouge sideburns.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, like my hair is basically black, And so I
went and bought a bleach kid at home, and like
then I was like, oh, look, you can't see it.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I just love third child. Your mum was like, I've
got no idea what she's doing in there, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, she was just like, you're too young.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And look, I guess that you know that's the argument here,
But if it's bothering her, I think that there's definitely
ways you can help without you know, having to go
to drastic measures.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well that's what I was going to say, because I
think that, yes, you want her to know that she's
beautiful with or without body hair. But the thing is,
and like it's very anti PC of me to say this,
but there are some things that will really really get
a teenage girl's confidence down. And being hairy or acnaic
(11:47):
are two of those things. So I'll just get on
top of them as soon as Like, if she wants
to get rid of the hair, just let her get
rid of the hair, because it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Is going to make her so much more confident.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, and she might go behind you back and then
do something like like you know, blinch her sideburns sideburns,
or cut herself accidentally or she's shaved. Yeah, I just
would get on top of it straight away because she
will reallyreciate that you're listening to her as well.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Agreed.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And I just don't think that hair is one of
those things that's going to give her Like she's not
asking for a facelift, yeah exactly, or a nose job,
or she's not asking to go and spend two hundred
dollars on Mecca Retal.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
That's probably better than the Sephora kids who are around there.
That's what I think I would go for.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Laser person, Well, I mean unless she's twelve, because you probably.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Can't really use later and that's it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Puberty plays a big role in this, so that's why
I was wondering where are in the teens, But it's
definitely an option later if she is in a younger teens.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What I would say though, is after intering Sarah Hudson
on the formula, she had some really interesting, really valuable
insights into the industry of laser So I would definitely
listen to that episode and then take her somewhere quite reputable,
more so than just somewhere that's like ten sessions for
two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, you don't want on of those cheap months. So
many different types of laser hair. Now there's ipl hair removal,
which is intense pole flight, which is different to laser
but essentially they're going to use a device that will
semi permanently remove the hair.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But because there can be burning or issues.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
A scar on my arm from when I had a
test patch and my mum said no, so I took
myself in on the bus and then they burnt me.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I would, more so than even general because of her
young age, take her somewhere that's actually like they are
trained clinicians in laser hair removal.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yes, and lastly, just maybe it could be worth just
a visit to the GP, just to check, you know,
that everything's all going well, because you know, sometimes excessive
body hair can be a sign of For me, I
had pcos That's that's why I was so hairy.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
So for me, I was just a bushy bandit still
you go.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But you're a beautiful mum, Ruth, that's I know, lovely,
so kind good luck. Okay, after the break, we've got
host hacks and all Kelly has got is caramel slice,
so I think she might be in the wrong script.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I can't wait to hear what this is? What a
you makup? Hacks? All right, Kelly, caramel slice. This is
new beauty. You know we don't do a food po No.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
We are turning it into a baker's beauty bite. Oh no,
we're not really a couple of weeks ago. I'm sure
you didn't miss it. The caramel slice saka.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh yes, I didn't even know who these two. Well,
I knew recipe eats, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I had never had her. Rod Nick was just like,
how have you not heard of these people?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I have her books, I've never opened them, but they
look good and then I didn't know who the other
person was, but now I'm well across it. There was
two Australian chef's cooks fighting.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I called it the bakfluence of drama, where one of
them alleged that the other plagiarized her caramel slice and
buckle of her recipe. And my hack is science backed
and why you should take this example and then you
can also apply it to beauty joops, because I saw
this really interesting post on the skin Test account, which
(15:03):
they do like all science stuff. So as they explained,
the average consumer, we only see the ingredients list, just
like when you're looking at the caramel slice recipes.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Because I looked at that and went, how can you like, Wow,
you've really looked into it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
How can you copy like caramel size, it's like the
same thing, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
That's the argument. Well that's the argument.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But if you could apply that to skin care, the
average person is just looking at ingredient lists and they go, oh,
this twenty dollars one's like basically a copy of this
sixty dollars one because the ingredients are the same, They're
all in the same sort of order order.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm just going to buy this and hey, guys, I've
just found the perfect jube for this sixty dollars product.
So I've got a really good example. I'm going to
think of the chocolate. Okay, So if a recipe says
one cup of chocolate, and it's like at the top
of the ingredient list, you could use home brand cooking chocolate.
You could use Cabri milk chocolate, or you could use
(15:59):
ninety percent.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Cacao dark lint.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, it would sharp the exact same way in the
ingredient list, but the end product would be vastly different.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Great, same the quality of the ingredient quality the same.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Also just the way that things are, like the formula
behind it, what temperature, Yeah, so many different things. But like, also,
if I follow a recipe, it's not going to turn
out as good as the other one. Not saying that
a dupe isn't made in a professional setting or in
a you know, some troops are amazing, don't get us agreed,
But just because there's a recipe doesn't mean it always
turns out the same exactly. So I just thought that
(16:34):
was such an interesting way to look at beauty products.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Especially in this huge dupe culture. Yes, that is a
really good way to look at it. I like that
a lot. And now I'm chocolate caramel flies.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Oh so yeah, I've been on a big caramel sized train.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Do you have a bake baking hat? No, man, is
very beauty.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I used to do back in the day when I
had time to do my makeup, when I would fill
in my brows, and I'd always use a little just
to bake my under eyes. I actually did say I
always use a tiny bit of highlighter just under the
hair of my brow.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Bo Oh, Yes, that was very twenty sixteen was sock off.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But now because my eyelids are starting to droop and
I just want my eyes look a little bit more open,
but I have less time to do all the blending.
You know how, For example, you and I both in
love with the Becker under eye illuminator, the peach corrector.
Use a tiny bit of under eye illuminator or corrector,
like on your browbone under the hair, and because it's
(17:31):
that brightening, it'll also make your eyes brighter from the
top the you.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Know what I mean, Like it's gonna just carry it
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yes, so you do hear under eye and then if
you've got any excess on your finger before you filled
in your brows, I just tap it sort of there
and it just makes my eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Your eyes look very beautiful today.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh god, I've had four hours sleep in six years,
So thank you. But yeah, I like it because it
kind of the texture mimic skin. It's not shimmery like
I used to do with highlighter, but it's just kind
of like neutralizing that area because you know, I love
my shadow prime, even though I don't wear shadow, but
because that dries down so matte, it feels like that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, so I just use a little bit of under
eye illuminator.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I've already got it out because you use it on
your Underrea correctly.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm going to try it.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Please try that, Kelly mccarrott. And if you don't, you
can set it. But if you don't, it just gives
you a little bit of radiance. You know, it's quite jewey.
Sorry that wasn't about cakes, but yeah, thank you so
much for listening.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And don't forget that some of our episodes are actually
up on YouTube so you can watch us.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I know it's a whole different game.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Look now, once upon a time, we just shot up
in our tracked acts looking like lunaty.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We still do.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
If you have a question, send us a dm at
you Beauty podcast and our producer will make sure we
answer it asap.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
This episode of You Beauty was produced by Molly Harwood
with audio production by Tiagan Sadler. Bye Bye,
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hello friends, E's Lee here,
and no I'm not confused. It's not Wednesday when nothing
to wear drops, but you Beauty drops on Mondays. And
this episode I'm about to put here has been one
of our most popular yet, so I thought you might
like to have a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Enjoy. Makeup is my therapy love. I'm obsessed and I
don't even feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the Daily Podcast
for your Faith.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Mccarrant, and we were literally just talking about time of air,
which makes it sound very boring.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well because it's mid to late May, and I can't
deal saying that. I read an article, which means I
saw it on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I saw a videy on TikTok. I read this very
interesting article. Don't even look at TikTok.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
The time goes fast as you get older, like it's
a real science thing because of proportional something that you
were born, the years that if you lived or something,
yes five now or five you feel like summer holidays
went anyway, yes, sir, but now half a year is
almost pass it's actually terrib Did you say who you were?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm Kelly, okay, and it's Q and a day, which
means every mind day. We answer two of your questions
and we finish off the episode with a host tank
shopping list, something no, a reminder, something not to do.
You never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You never know, So if you want to ask a question, look,
you can email us it's you Beauty at Mama mea
dot com, dot a you, or just slide into the
you Beauty Instagram dms because someone checks them and tells
us about them exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything you ask
any questions. Later on the episode, we have got a
question from a month she's asking on behalf of her
teenage daughter for advice.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Which is just so lovely. But first we have.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
An email from Claire Hile and Kelly loved the show.
You sometimes say that you bought a product when at
the chemistal shopping. Do you get sent many products from companies?
If you do, why do you buy extra products? What
makes you actually pay for those products and what have
you bought with your own money lately?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Thank you so much, Claire? Are you my husband?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Because he keeps saying, why are you buy more beauty products? Look,
Kelly and I probably have similar answers, but I'll go first.
So yeah, what happens is if you're in beauty media,
you know, whether or not you're content creator or I
guess this is more traditional media, you will be on
PR list, public relations list, and then they'll send an
email saying, hey, this lip gloss is launching, do you
want to try it?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Or sometimes they just send it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But not every brand sends to me or to Kelly
or to every publication. And also not every brand has
a public relations business like company or someone working for
them or an AU team necessarily exactly. And then also
there's so much launching at the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Obsessed with K Beauty and Jay Beauty and a lot
of that isn't represented professionally here with an agency or
something like that. And I also just bloody love beauty products.
So while we're sent a huge amount of products, and
it's not just for us, it's for the team to
trial for other purposes aside from the podcast. We get
a lot, but it's still only a tiny snippet of
(03:25):
the industry.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
For example, if you're new here, I'm obsessed with Revolution Beauty,
you can buy it online. You can get it at
a price sign I don't know who does their PR,
if they have PR. I've never been sent any.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I buy it all.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Like I said, I do a lot of J Beauty
and K beauty shopping. If I see something going viral
on Instagram, like remember that deal stick Foundation I loved God,
I went and bought that after hunting it down, like
I was like a private investigator trying to get that.
And then of course I just buy the stuff. I'll
always go back to when I'm not trialing some serums,
my my cellar water. I just love beauty, so I
(03:59):
do buy a lot. Full transparency. I put it through
my tax doesn't mean it's free though, you see. Yeah,
I was probably late twenties when I realized that it's
a tax deduction. But it doesn't mean you get all
the money back. But still, I mean, I think it's
important for me if I've seen something that I think,
oh love, and also Kelly and I get sent a lot,
but it might not be right for our skin type
(04:20):
or hair type, so like I'll pass on something for
blondes to Kelly or she'll pass on something for oily
skin to me. Yeah, So I mean I do buy
a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What about you? I shop a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I actually think that I probably don't get as much
sent to me as people assume, maybe because.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm a freelancer.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, I'm not on as many PR lists, Like there
are some companies that have just never sent me anything,
and I'm like, well.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Don't you want to be on Australia's Biggest Beautiful I'm like,
I'll just gone buy it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But the thing is, is it for us to buy something,
we have to genuinely want to try it. So sometimes
you might notice that say I or Lee might recommend
more brands, like you might see things popping.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Up regularly through the year.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
That's because we probably are on the PR list so
actually get to try all of their launches, Whereas if
we're not, something has to look really cool and exciting
for us to want to go out and spend down
money on it. So if no one else is talking
about it as well, then we're not necessarily going to
want to go spend six thirty dollars on something we've
never heard anything about it? Yeah, sense yeah, And then
one person might be like, yeah, but what about this? Well,
(05:19):
I don't know whereas you shot more, I guess you're
like very into I herb and beauty.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Jd Amazons.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I am, you do sometimes, but I'm huge on social media.
I've seen something that I have.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You're You're way more into that, Like you buy things
direct from ads like or I have to try that
because I want to report back honestly as well. I've
started to buy a few things, but I've found that
a lot of those Instagram too good to be true things, they.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Always are too good to be true.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But whereas I'm like getting a script filled at you
chemistware House or your price side and then I'm like, oh,
maybe Leane's half price or Revolution, what have you got?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And also a PR company isn't going to send us
something that's old. All of a sudden, the Paulish choice
bha yeah is gaining virality.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
On tiktop because it's not you and they're not sending it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, We're going to go out and buy it to
try it, because they're not going to send it to us,
like it's not new, why would they They're going to
send whatever new product they are launching. And I also
think that a lot of Savy brands don't have the
sort of pr.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, that's the tricky part.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's why I buy a lot of savies is because
we don't get sent a lot of savors. Not that
we get sent a lot of luxury, but it's kind
of that we need a lot of mid yeah mid
and you know now like stuff from the chemist is
up to like sixty five seventy five dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
For a seer. We always wait till it's on special
by it. Yeah, But so we're often looking for savs.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's why Kelly and I you can hear it's going
COO and Kmart and the pharmacies. But no, we definitely
don't get sent everything. We do get sent a lot,
and I also often get asked what do we do
with it all? So here at Mama Mea, we have
like beauty cupboard storage cupboards and every few times a
year we clean those out and send the shampoo and
conditioner and the kind of essentials to women's shelters and
(06:58):
then anything a bit more fancy, we do like a
beauty sale here and the money raised goes to Rise Up,
which we're very proud ambassadors for, and they help women
and families out of domestic violence situations.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I do the women's shelters a couple of times a year.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
At the end of the year, I always do heaps
of big bags for Share the Dignity. And I also
do this random thing for my girlfriend's at Christmas time
where they come over and I have everything out kind
of like a seal, kind of like what you do
at Mama Mia, and then everything goes to One year
it was Dementia Australia. Last year it was a Ronald
McDonald house. Because I saw that it was like anyway,
(07:31):
that just made me feel really good.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You never just throw out products at a god, not
unless it's like burnt our skin or something.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes now it smells like mold, which is something I
used on my hair yesterday. I realized it was a
natural hair product I hadn't used for a while. Molds
on my hair actually was mold. Anyway, after the break,
a beautiful mum wants to help solve her daughter's problems,
and we're here to help.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I would just like to say I really wish my
mother had cared as much as Ruth, because Ruth has
sent us a deer. My teenage daughter is really embarrassed
about her body hair. She has lovely fair skin and
in contrast, quite dark hair on her arms. She has
lighter and finer hair on her face. I don't notice,
but she says it's visible in the outdoors. She also
worries about the hair she calls her sideburns. I'm seeking
(08:22):
solutions to offer her while also reminding her she's absolutely
beautiful regardless. Any wisdom would be much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh, bless her, Ruth, that's so nice.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I wonder when you say eighteen, I wonder if she's
like thirteen or seventeen. I guess it doesn't really matter.
But I remember saying to my mom, like, my mom,
want to shave my legs. My mom will shaved my legs.
And she's like, no, not yet. So I just went
and got a razor. I didn't know how to do it.
No water, no.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Anything, no no.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I just swipe, swipe, sipe ow. And then I went
to her mom. I said, mum, my skin's really red,
and to go oh, I'll show you how to do it. Properly,
So Ruth, You've got a few options. I normally have very,
very hairy arms. My brother and sister growing up called
me Wookie the Wookie because I'm just such a hear Yeah,
and I'm Scottish heritage. So while I do put gradual
tan on, I've got fair skin and really dark hair.
(09:08):
I shave my arms with a men's raizer in the
shower every few days. It will not grow back darker
and longer. That's impossible.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
But also your arms, I've never felt them be spiky
the way legs are.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, No, they're definitely not, because it's a different type
of hair. But also I literally it goes. It takes
me two seconds. My legs, on the other hand, I
wear pants a lot. I will let them literally grow
like a blanket.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'm a bushy.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But you know, with shaving or anything that removes the
hair from the surface of the skin, it can't affect
the root of the hair.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Under the skin.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The reason it might feel a little bit thicker or darker, well,
definitely not darker, is that there's no tapered tip to
the hair as it grows back. So I shave my arms.
That might be a bit much for her. There's definitely
options about laser, but I'll let Kelly kind of talk
through that. Finishing Touch is an Australian brand that does
a lot of different tools, and I've talked about the
little face shaver that I keep in my car to
(09:59):
shave my mustache, not when I'm driving, but when I'm
in my car because of the light. They have lots
of different little tools that could be good for the
peach fuzz, which is what you say. I think the
hair on the side of her face, her sideburns. I
actually had hectic sideburns, like it looked like I was
wearing a helmet of hair. And then in my twenties
I had laser hair removal on the just on the
(10:20):
side of my face. But if she's not ready for laser,
depending on the age, she could try threading and that's
where they sort of remove the hair from the root.
It's like waxing, but without the wax, and they do
it with cotton thread basically. Or you could try to
pilotry cream. I thought that could help. There's a really
great brand called Woo Woo. It's an Australian brand and
it's really sort of natural and gentle or you've got
your nad's nevvy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Doesn't smell the way it used to as well.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Honestly, I only was allowed to eat when I was
a teenager.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, and I was also chewbacker.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, except a very fair chewbacker.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah. No, I'm dark when I went into the sun
that you go, dear lord.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah no, I remember hating it and Mum wouldn't let
me either, And so I tried to like bleach my sideburns,
but then they were just orange, like I.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Think more rouge sideburns.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, like my hair is basically black, And so I
went and bought a bleach kid at home, and like
then I was like, oh, look, you can't see it.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I just love third child. Your mum was like, I've
got no idea what she's doing in there, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, she was just like, you're too young.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And look, I guess that you know that's the argument here,
But if it's bothering her, I think that there's definitely
ways you can help without you know, having to go
to drastic measures.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well that's what I was going to say, because I
think that, yes, you want her to know that she's
beautiful with or without body hair. But the thing is,
and like it's very anti PC of me to say this,
but there are some things that will really really get
a teenage girl's confidence down. And being hairy or acnaic
(11:47):
are two of those things. So I'll just get on
top of them as soon as Like, if she wants
to get rid of the hair, just let her get
rid of the hair, because it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Is going to make her so much more confident.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, and she might go behind you back and then
do something like like you know, blinch her sideburns sideburns,
or cut herself accidentally or she's shaved. Yeah, I just
would get on top of it straight away because she
will reallyreciate that you're listening to her as well.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Agreed.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And I just don't think that hair is one of
those things that's going to give her Like she's not
asking for a facelift, yeah exactly, or a nose job,
or she's not asking to go and spend two hundred
dollars on Mecca Retal.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
That's probably better than the Sephora kids who are around there.
That's what I think I would go for.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Laser person, Well, I mean unless she's twelve, because you probably.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Can't really use later and that's it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Puberty plays a big role in this, so that's why
I was wondering where are in the teens, But it's
definitely an option later if she is in a younger teens.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What I would say though, is after intering Sarah Hudson
on the formula, she had some really interesting, really valuable
insights into the industry of laser So I would definitely
listen to that episode and then take her somewhere quite reputable,
more so than just somewhere that's like ten sessions for
two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, you don't want on of those cheap months. So
many different types of laser hair. Now there's ipl hair removal,
which is intense pole flight, which is different to laser
but essentially they're going to use a device that will
semi permanently remove the hair.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But because there can be burning or issues.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
A scar on my arm from when I had a
test patch and my mum said no, so I took
myself in on the bus and then they burnt me.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I would, more so than even general because of her
young age, take her somewhere that's actually like they are
trained clinicians in laser hair removal.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yes, and lastly, just maybe it could be worth just
a visit to the GP, just to check, you know,
that everything's all going well, because you know, sometimes excessive
body hair can be a sign of For me, I
had pcos That's that's why I was so hairy.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
So for me, I was just a bushy bandit still
you go.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But you're a beautiful mum, Ruth, that's I know, lovely,
so kind good luck. Okay, after the break, we've got
host hacks and all Kelly has got is caramel slice,
so I think she might be in the wrong script.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I can't wait to hear what this is? What a
you makup? Hacks? All right, Kelly, caramel slice. This is
new beauty. You know we don't do a food po No.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
We are turning it into a baker's beauty bite. Oh no,
we're not really a couple of weeks ago. I'm sure
you didn't miss it. The caramel slice saka.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh yes, I didn't even know who these two. Well,
I knew recipe eats, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I had never had her. Rod Nick was just like,
how have you not heard of these people?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I have her books, I've never opened them, but they
look good and then I didn't know who the other
person was, but now I'm well across it. There was
two Australian chef's cooks fighting.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I called it the bakfluence of drama, where one of
them alleged that the other plagiarized her caramel slice and
buckle of her recipe. And my hack is science backed
and why you should take this example and then you
can also apply it to beauty joops, because I saw
this really interesting post on the skin Test account, which
(15:03):
they do like all science stuff. So as they explained,
the average consumer, we only see the ingredients list, just
like when you're looking at the caramel slice recipes.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Because I looked at that and went, how can you like, Wow,
you've really looked into it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
How can you copy like caramel size, it's like the
same thing, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
That's the argument. Well that's the argument.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But if you could apply that to skin care, the
average person is just looking at ingredient lists and they go, oh,
this twenty dollars one's like basically a copy of this
sixty dollars one because the ingredients are the same, They're
all in the same sort of order order.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm just going to buy this and hey, guys, I've
just found the perfect jube for this sixty dollars product.
So I've got a really good example. I'm going to
think of the chocolate. Okay, So if a recipe says
one cup of chocolate, and it's like at the top
of the ingredient list, you could use home brand cooking chocolate.
You could use Cabri milk chocolate, or you could use
(15:59):
ninety percent.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Cacao dark lint.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, it would sharp the exact same way in the
ingredient list, but the end product would be vastly different.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Great, same the quality of the ingredient quality the same.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Also just the way that things are, like the formula
behind it, what temperature, Yeah, so many different things. But like, also,
if I follow a recipe, it's not going to turn
out as good as the other one. Not saying that
a dupe isn't made in a professional setting or in
a you know, some troops are amazing, don't get us agreed,
But just because there's a recipe doesn't mean it always
turns out the same exactly. So I just thought that
(16:34):
was such an interesting way to look at beauty products.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Especially in this huge dupe culture. Yes, that is a
really good way to look at it. I like that
a lot. And now I'm chocolate caramel flies.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Oh so yeah, I've been on a big caramel sized train.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Do you have a bake baking hat? No, man, is
very beauty.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I used to do back in the day when I
had time to do my makeup, when I would fill
in my brows, and I'd always use a little just
to bake my under eyes. I actually did say I
always use a tiny bit of highlighter just under the
hair of my brow.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Bo Oh, Yes, that was very twenty sixteen was sock off.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But now because my eyelids are starting to droop and
I just want my eyes look a little bit more open,
but I have less time to do all the blending.
You know how, For example, you and I both in
love with the Becker under eye illuminator, the peach corrector.
Use a tiny bit of under eye illuminator or corrector,
like on your browbone under the hair, and because it's
(17:31):
that brightening, it'll also make your eyes brighter from the
top the you.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Know what I mean, Like it's gonna just carry it
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yes, so you do hear under eye and then if
you've got any excess on your finger before you filled
in your brows, I just tap it sort of there
and it just makes my eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Your eyes look very beautiful today.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh god, I've had four hours sleep in six years,
So thank you. But yeah, I like it because it
kind of the texture mimic skin. It's not shimmery like
I used to do with highlighter, but it's just kind
of like neutralizing that area because you know, I love
my shadow prime, even though I don't wear shadow, but
because that dries down so matte, it feels like that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, so I just use a little bit of under
eye illuminator.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I've already got it out because you use it on
your Underrea correctly.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm going to try it.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Please try that, Kelly mccarrott. And if you don't, you
can set it. But if you don't, it just gives
you a little bit of radiance. You know, it's quite jewey.
Sorry that wasn't about cakes, but yeah, thank you so
much for listening.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And don't forget that some of our episodes are actually
up on YouTube so you can watch us.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I know it's a whole different game.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Look now, once upon a time, we just shot up
in our tracked acts looking like lunaty.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We still do.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
If you have a question, send us a dm at
you Beauty podcast and our producer will make sure we
answer it asap.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
This episode of You Beauty was produced by Molly Harwood
with audio production by Tiagan Sadler. Bye Bye,
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