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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
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that this podcast is recorded.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
On Hi friends.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Lee here over on You Beauty. We get a lot
of beauty questions and there's one question we keep getting
over and over again, so we answered it on You Beauty,
and I'm dropping the episode here in case you've been
wondering and want to have a listen.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel
guilty a body. Hello, and welcome to You Beauty, the
daily podcast for Your Face.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I am Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly mccaren and Lee has
just pointed out the dayton it's the middle of week. Well, no,
it's not in the middle of winter. It's a start
of winter. It's almost Newsy. Basically we're almost halfway through now.
I kind of meant the end of financial new one.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So if you've had a shit year, do you know
what I do every year? If I've had a shit
first half of the year, I buse of lots of truths. Well,
Becausin's tax deduction, yes, but I count the you know,
end of financial year as like yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And also in the financial sales, even if they're not
tax deductions, it's still free. Yes, okay, very good.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So you might want to buy something we suggest today
it's a Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We answer your questions. You send them in.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Our wonderful team sifts through them. Actually they had to
send us all of them. We speak them and we
try and help you out. So what are we doing today,
my friends?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well today Later on the episode, we do have a
question from a ub that I think ninety nine percent
of people can relate to at some point in their life.
But first a question. Lee and I will have very
different opinions on. I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You ask many questions.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Honey has emailed us this is awkward. But I need
to break up with my eyebrow lady. We chat like
friends and she's lovely, but her work hasn't been great lately.
How do I end things without burning bridges or making
it super uncomfortable?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Honey, this is not enough information I need to know.
Do you message or communicate outside of your appointments? Or
is she lovely to chat to while you're having a
brow And that's the extent of your relationship doesn't matter. Wait, okay,
it matters. How long have you been going to her?
Do you follow each other on social media? Do your
friends go there? I need to know all of this.
(02:21):
Are you in a tiny town where there's two eyebrow people?
Do you live in New York City where there's a millionaire?
You'll never see each other again?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's so hard. I went through this.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I'm not going to name the profession, but I went
through this after decades, and I decided to what did
you do?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm not telling on the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, on I semi ghosted, and I feel sick about it,
but I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
How do you semi ghost? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I ghosted and then I was asked what's happening? And
oh no, don't ask So I kind of live my
life on social media. So anyway, my question is, if
you just think she's lovely to chat to, but you
don't communicate outside, just go elsewhere. If you've been going
for like more than five years, and all your friends
go there, and or you follow each other on social media,
(03:06):
I just wouldn't book in. And then if it comes
up up like you don't have to say Hi, Mary,
I've got something to tell you've been doing an awful
drop and now I'm going to felicity, Like, it doesn't
have to be that. You say burning bridges. I don't
think that's a bridge to burn it. It's a transaction.
You're paying for a service. Of course, you don't want
to be an awful person. I just sorry if you
say that, Oh you know, last time they were too
(03:27):
thin or whatever. Of course they're going to want to
correct their work and have another chance.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I just if you don't really know them and no
one goes, they're just ghosts, which is awful. It's not ghosting,
it's just like going somewhere else. But if you know
there are an acquaintance and your friends go there, then
I think you need to make.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Me tell a lie. Oh one lies a fie. Oh good, Okay,
what do you know, lie? Lie? So what I would do,
because I'm actually in a very similar situation at the moment,
but with a non beauty related service. Okay, The thing
is is that would I like to know, Like if
someone was really unhappy with the service that I provide,
I would be mortified and I would want to know.
(04:07):
But that's not what she I don't want to be
the person like that's what I mean. Yeah, I'm like absolutely,
But do I actually have the balls to have that
conversation myself? Absolutely not. No, I simply do not. So
what I would do. I would just tell her that
you can't afford it anymore and that you'll be doing
your own brows.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So what if she's like, Okay, great, I'll do it
for ten dollars, She won't. No one would do that.
What you could do is, I mean I love that
we're current with lies. Is you could be like, oh,
you know, my sister's now training to be a beauty therapist,
so she's trialing on me like something that's not it's
a white lie.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But just say that you're doing them myself. She would
still rather do it herself than pay ten dollars even,
I guess, so like I just think, say you're going
to be doing it yourself. You're gonna cut costs. There's
a cost of living crisis, you're not pain.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What if honey is code for like Margot Robbie. What
if she's really rich?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We don't know people's finances. That's true, she could outwardly
be very rich.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I just I hate to say this, But I just
think sometimes we should think like a man, like my
husband would not think twice about not going like changing
hair people if he didn't like his haircut.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But I also wouldn't have the conversation. That's my point.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But it's like, I love that women care and that
you know, so much of the service industry and the
beauty industry is women being kind and having connections. You know,
they're like your therapists, you brow people in your hair person.
But at the end of the day, if you don't
love it, I just give it a break, maybe book
and try somewhere else, and also forever exactly it.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Might go back. Then the other person might be even
more you might end up with sperm brows. I also
think like we need to remember that you are thinking like,
oh no, blah blah blah. If they're a service based industry,
I'm sure she's got so many clients she probably won't
notice or not. It's not going to drastically affect her.
(05:50):
Just tell her you've moved to somewhere else. I think
that's too hard of a lie. Then they're running to
each other. Get a wig. No, no, you're taking it
too far. Just simply tell her you cannot afford it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay, we hope that helps. I'd love to hear the ubids.
This question comes up a lot in the UBI Gril.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, but all the people like you've got to have the conversation.
You know what, most of us don't have the balls.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I have that conversation with my husband When he's annoying me,
I'll just give him the silent treatment.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay, so that probably wasn't very helpful, but we're going
to try and help. I think we've just encouraged it
a lie.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
We're going to try it and help someone after the
break with their puffy, tired eyes.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I feel you. So this email from Jazzy is
the one that I reference that ninety nine percent of
us can relate to. At some point, I thought it
was the breaking up with people. Oh but actually both
my eyes constantly look tired and puffy, even when I've
had a decent sleep. What products or techniques would you
(06:44):
recommend to brighten up the eye area? Are I creams
worth the investment or are there other tricks I should try?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
My god, me too.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I cannot tell you, Jazzy how much I can relate
to this right Now, we've talked many times over the
years how lifestyle factors contribute to puffiness. So a high
salt diet which I have, alcohol which I don't have
a lot of, but in my forties, even two glasses
of wine will make me look puffy and weird. So
what you could do is just watch your salt intake.
(07:12):
Sleep on a higher pillow. You know you can get
those memory foelabit, Yes, because you want your head to
be higher than your body so that the circulation like
doesn't pull around your eyes. But I'm having this problem
a lot too. My eyes are incredibly itchy at this
time of year, and I think also perimenopause. And when
I wake up before I remember to not do it,
I love rubbing my eyes.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And then feel so good. It's like cleaning the inside
of your ears. Oh oh gosh, But you're not meant
to go that hard anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Some things that have helped me are the Buttapacifique puffy
eye gel. You can get that on Adoor Beauty. It's
ninety nine dollars. It's expensive. You're gonna put it on
in the morning and go oh yeah, But it's when
you don't use it that you realize quite how great
it is. If I have been doing a lot, a
lot of rubbing and my eyes are kind of creepy
and irritated underneath because I'm so tired and dry, I
(07:59):
use Laroche PA's a tolerene I cream and that is
designed for really sensitive eyes. It protects and sues the
eye area while reducing puffiness. I use that a lot
these days, even if I I'm you know, going somewhere
mid afternoon, I need to refresh my makeup because my
face just looks like a raisin.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I was gonna say something else.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'll just tap a little bit of that under my eyes.
It's really nice forty two ninety five. Then you could
also try, which I love, the James Cosmetics Dpuff eye mask.
Kelly and I both love these products. They're they're like
little what are they called, like not silicon but like
white single use bidegradable under eye masks. I always do
this before I'm doing a makeup for something fancy, and
(08:38):
they do have a depuff specific version. You get five
packs for thirty five dollars. It does feel quite active,
you'll feel that it's on, but my underreye always looks
heaps nicer. If I'm gonna bother go somewhere fancy, I
wouldn't do it every single day. I would also just
quickly assess your makeup and see if that's you might
be having a slight irritation if you're puffy.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You might know, obviously you'll know better than we do.
But there's a really great mascaa I recommended before that
was developed by an ophthalmologist. Oh I remember talking about
that that had the braill on the side of it. Yes,
it's got brail on it for people that are vision impaired.
It's called okyoh and Prioritize mascara. It's in black forty
nine to fifty and they just launched brown. So I've
(09:20):
got a lot of friends that wear contact lenses or
just have really sensitive eyes, and they love that because
it could be you know, some of your makeup and
last but not least, when I was researching this, I
bought this because you know, you want to look alive
and brightened and less tired in the morning. So an
underreye corrector as opposed to kind of a thick concealer
would be good. Just something light to brighten the area.
(09:42):
I found the Embryle's Radiant Eye Cooling stick.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So it's like a.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Little it looks like a little lip gloss and you
swipe it under your eyes and it's got that brightening
kind of peachy color, but it's also cooling an anti put.
Haven't tried it yet, but I love Embreyles and all
their products. So I clicked and added to kat last
night and so I will report back. But there's if
you just type in under eye brightener you'll find heaps.
Kelly and I love the beckelm love underri brightners.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you think? And kil Well, I'm wondering if
she's thought about allergies. Yeah, like sometimes they can come on.
You might not have ever had allergies before, but they
can come on at different stages in your life. So
I mean, of course, maybe go to the doctor, but
take an antihistamine. You just buy them from the pharmacy
in the morning for a couple of days and just
see if it helps.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Because it might be bedding like dust mighty might need
new pillows. I'm yuilty of holding onto my pillows for
way too long because.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
In your sheets and changing your pillow cases enough, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Because that can make your eyes puffee a lot. You know,
I find that if I stay somewhere that I'm not
used to, like the bedding or it's I don't know
how clean it is.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I do wake up puffy. Cold. Compress cold, little icy
things that we were talking about last week that will
really help with puffiness. And the only product I was
thinking of was that new liner that you love from
I heard, yes, the raw. It's not the I heard
one that's the liquid liner.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's a raw. It's an Australian company and it's like a.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't know because I haven't had to buy one
because you gave it.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Because I buy a bolt because I'm worried they're going
to stop making it. It's this really good nude, nutty
beige and you do with the inner room and it
kind of takes a redness out and just makes your
eyes look a bit brighter. And on that note, I
would just avoid any under eye like liner or mascar
because it can just make your eyes look smaller if
you're very tired. I've got tiny eyes, so I never
really do underrye stuff. And hopefully you can get some
(11:29):
more sleep. I mean, I know you said you're having
decent sleep, but hopefully that helps.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
All right, after the brain I've got to not what
to do host haac. I love those ones. What a
hack you makeup? Packs? All right, what shouldn't we do? Well,
there's a TikTok trend at the moment where people ask
(11:55):
for They'll be like, I'm bored, tell me your most
unhinged at like whatever hack it is, so it'll be
in all different categories. And I've seen a bunch of
beauty related ones like they'll say, tell me what your
most unhinged effective beauty hackers? Very interesting in the comment sections,
but please, this is your reminder to take them with
(12:17):
a grain of salt, because are they recommending them? Well,
the comment.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Section is like, it's the person saying, this is my
unhinged thing. I use dog food as a hair mask.
Are they then recommending it?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, no, it's the people in the comment section that
are well, they're not recommending it. They're just saying, this
is what's worked really well for me. A bit left center, okay,
unusual unusual exactly. But please, let's not just do everything
that we see. Because yesterday I no joke saw a
comment from someone that they use debtl to wash their
(12:50):
face and that their skin has never looked better and
have even cleared their acne up. And oh, my lord, of.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Course it did, because you don't have whole skin barrier off.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You do not have skin anymore, my dear, you are
just a face walking a skeleton walking around goodness. Yeah no,
so just let's not listen to let's not just read
things and then take it as verbatim. And unfortunately that's
how the algorithm works.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You know. Just a lovely glowing review for a regular
cleanser isn't shocking or going to grab anyone's attention. But
saying I do this.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I need an antiseptic yes to cleanse my floor cleaner? Yeah,
so always just go interesting but and whoa won't be
trying that? Yeah, I has been really innocuous, which of
course you can try by Yeah. Other than that, let's
just read it and have a bit of a giggle.
But yes, I think I live in the comment sections
of everything, honest, the comment sections of my face.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's like a TV show for me. Riches like let's
go to bed so funny, and I'm like, I can't,
I'm what I'm reading this banter? Well, my host Tac
is firstly, an apology to you about the bobby pins.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
There was many kids, so many people DMed me and
said thanks Carl, I went and bought some.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yes, well now they can put them in my bobby
pin holder.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So I did you bring it into show?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It. I trying to get another one because I found
so many goddamn bobby pins.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm mid spring cleaning except for in winter.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's called the Kitch magnetic Bobby pin hold.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Oh my god, it's magnetic.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That's the whole point you tour. Why would you put
them in something that wasn't. So it's like a little
black cube and it's like if anyone's ever done sewing
that you can get them for pins. You just chuck
your bbby pin on it or near it and they
just stay on there. So now I've got one in
the bathroom and the bedroom because I had too many
bobby pins's, but.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
They were everywhere in my cat accho Akio is it
achio or chow the spell where they it comes towards it. Yes,
that's what this thing does.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But if you've got metal brushes, be careful because like
they want to stick to it too, Like you make
up brushes, but they're just so handy, and then you'll
you know, I've got one in two rooms. I got
one for my best friend because she's got two little girls.
There's one in their bathroom now and now she doesn't
have two five year old twins sayings, So.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
We'll link in the show notes. I love that time
of recording.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's eighteen ninety eight and they just chic little black things.
Hit it on your bedside table.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So once you've.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Bought bobby pins, as per Kelly's instructions, now put them
on my little black magne.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I love this. Yeah, all right, we'll be back in
your ears together on Friday, but for the will gotta
s get out all.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Okay, So if you've got a question, slide into our
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them on to us. This episode of You Beauty is
produced by Molly Harwood and Sophie Campbell, with audio production
by Teag and Sadler Bye