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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to Amma Mea podcast? Whoever said orange is
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You live for fashion.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Up your wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
My name is Tamara Holland.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And I'm Licinder Pickett. We talk all things style and
fashion on this podcast, and this week's a little bit different.
We've gone around the Sydneymuma Mea office and asked everyone
they're burning fashion questions, so hopefully tamn' I can answer
them for you today. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Absolutely, We're going to give you our best advice that
we can and everything you need to keep you updated
in the fashion No.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So our first question that we got through ten, what
are your go to places to look for style inspiration?
If you're not someone who's constantly on top of every
new trend.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's a good question. Why don't you kick us off?
Because I feel like you're very across trends. Maybe you
have some different points of view or inputs that we
the average person wouldn't know about.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, well, and I think there'd be some as well
that you'd rely on quite heavily as well. And I
think the first one here is what I'm going to suggest,
is more sort of apps or websites that I use
quite frequently with work, okay, and potentially if you're someone
who is more interested in style, or maybe you're a
little bit interested to see where trends come from, they
could be quite helpful. I think the first one, and
(01:39):
I know this is a go to for you as well.
Tam is Vogue Runway the app.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh I live there.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's sensational. It's my Sydney Morning Herald me too.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You know you do have to pay for it? Yeah,
I will say a lot of people. People will DM
me all the time and say where are you getting
these runway images from? And I'm like, girl, I pay
for it. I think it's like twelve dollars for the
first year, twelve dollars USD and then after that it's
a lot more.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Expensive, is it.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, it's like sixty a year or something. Don't quote
me on that. Yeah, So you do have to subscribe
in the same way you'd subscribe to any other media
that is worth the payoff that you get for that,
which is access to every single runway show, exclusive content
with the Vogue editors, etc.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I think as consumers were used to sort of paying
that fee. Now with apps, if there's like I don't
know if it's a daily mail not them, but like
Washington Post or whatever it is, you sort of do
sign up for the app. But they're just so good.
I always think about the developers on that app, like
they're updating that so frequently. As soon as a runway
shows on, it's borm It's like updated with all the photos.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It reminds me of like my fashion week days. I
used to go to Sydney Fashion Week when I was
like a young fashion reporter and there would be these
photographers there that were like in the pit when a
runway show was happening and then running to their station
to upload the photos to like Getty or wherever they're
uploading them to, to file them, and I just think, wow, intense. Anyway,
what a segue from a style inspiration point of view?
(03:04):
Like to come back to this question, like what do
you get out of that?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's staying on top of the fashion weeks and the
major fashion houses to see what they're coming out with.
In terms of trends, and I love to see also
just what the editors are writing about as well. So
it's really a place to stay up to date. Where
the next two I'm going to mention one is tag
Walk which shows a lot of the trends and reporting,
and another one is First Few. So these ones, again
(03:28):
you have to pay subscription. Have you heard of these ones?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Tom, I've heard of them, but don't. I don't subscribe,
but I want to. Maybe you can get me over
the line.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So I used to work for an agency called Eskimo
and it was really nice practice they made us do.
It was working with Australian fashion designers and doing their
creative every hour at the beginning of each day, we'd
have to look through all of these websites and it
was part of what we'd have to do. And I think,
so what a luxury that that was what we're paid
to do.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's research, and that's something that I think is really
often missing from the conversation around like social media content
is just like experts doing the research and coming back
with their findings and their like. We're increasingly seeing more
outlets on social media that actually have the data to
back up their opinions that's right, and what they're forecasting
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and whatnot, and those are the sources that I tend
to trust.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
More absolutely, So if you're interested, Yeah, tag Walk and
First Few. I use First Few more for street style.
But it's actually the largest runway collection archives. I didn't
know that, and it launched in nineteen ninety five by
two fashion photographers. Like what you were saying, but they've
just curated this amazing online archives. So you can type
in any designer or a year and you can look
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at what their collection was.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Good resource. This next one is a little bit rogue,
but I love Getty Images. If you just type in
fashion editorial, you get to see a lot of events
that have been happening around the world. So, for example,
there was recently the Tiffany and Co Blue Gala Nite,
So you can see what celebrities and influencers are wearing.
(05:04):
And it's almost like what you were saying, it's before
it hits social So not only is that sort of
interesting because you're seeing all these untouched photos of celebrities,
but you get a real you can see what they're wearing.
You don't always see the photos that make it to Instagram,
so what people are wearing, what they were styled in,
and they've obviously had stylists style them for those events,
so you can get little tipfits from there.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
On that point, I'm going to throw in there, looking
to celebrity stylists on Instagram rather than the celebrities themselves.
I think you know the orchestrators of these looks that
you're seeing When you see Hayley Bebers step out for
an event or even in her casual street style Kendall Jenner,
did you know that they're styled by the same person,
the same person, and that is Danny Michelle, an LA
(05:45):
based stylist. Danny herself has incredible personal style and her
Instagram is a mix of both, so she showcases mostly
her clients looks, but also some of her own stuff
and what she's seeing. And I just love a little
peek behind the curtain of what the stylists, the image creators.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Law Roach?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I've been watching Project Rightway, I've been catching up for
the latest season, and law Roach calls himself an email architect.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's what he branded himself as.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I like to think that's because like understandably, you're
not just a stylist pulling clothes. He is the architect
behind Zendaya's image. So isn't that an interesting thing to
have access to?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Where do you find these stylists? So if you love
someone's style, how do you Is it just a bit
quick Google search?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, it's a Google search, like I think, so like
you can kind of reverse engineer that question, like you
could go, Okay, I really like Zoe Kravitz's style. Danielle
Goldberg is her stylist, and she also looks after Greta Lee.
So that's an interesting thing in itself because you might
gravitate towards a certain celebrity style or a certain group
of celebrities, like I said, Haley and Kendall, and then
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realize that those two it girls are style by the
same person. So who's the person making those decisions about
what they wear on a casual level, on an elevated
red carpet level. You know, just having a look at
whose style you resonate.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
With, you do forget that the photos that you see
of them on the street grabbing sushi, they are styled
nine times out.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Of ten exactly. I wonder.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm sure there's a whole slew of celebrities who aren't
who their take like iconically. Chloe seven years is one.
I'm sure she has a stylist that works with her,
but she creates most of her own looks. Blake Lively
styles herself. So those are the celebrities where you go
straight to the source.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But yeah, love that My next one. I do get
asked a lot about where I do get trend reports
from WGSN is one of the major ones. I used
to work for a console agency that would provide this
data to WGSN. They don't just focus in fashion. It's
all an array of different categories. Again, you do have
(07:42):
to pay a subscription, but they do have a free vlog.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Do you use this at all occasionally?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah? Yeah, good. It's if you're interested in colors trends.
Maybe you've got your own business so you're just curious
about what's coming out next year. It's a really great website.
It's really resourceful and even just that free access because
it is quite expensive, but you can see it shows
like the Mocker Moose this color, but next year they'll
talk about transformative teal as a color, So it show
(08:10):
has a lot of that information.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
What about list indexs because that's free. That's a really
good resource that I use as well. It breaks down
I did. I have a fashion newsletter and I recently
dedicated a post to like the top ten items that
the list index had said were the key trending items
across fashion. And they do a quarterly report where they
share what brands and movers and shakers in the industry,
(08:33):
which ones are on top, which ones are falling. It's
like a ranking of designers and pieces, taste makers, that
kind of thing. And that's a really good just like
cheat sheet. Say you're just kind of starting your journey.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So there's these websites and apps, but there is also
I still love Instagram and Pinterest. It's just that doing
scrolling that you can get into and I do find
it can get a little bit same same. So if
you just sort of I feel like, if you've got
a long game with an event, so maybe it is
your thirtieth, your fortieth, and you think what do I
want to wear? What who do I want to be
(09:04):
at that event? You could sort of look around at
these trends reports or first few and kind of like
curate your own outfit.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Definitely another one I'm finding increasingly that I look to
taste makers on substack as a platform rather than going
straight to Instagram, Like Instagram will always be the go
to for me, but on substack, you know you can.
These creators are delving a little bit deeper into what's
behind the trends that they're wearing rather than just sharing
(09:34):
outfits on Instagram without context or commentary. And I know
on Instagram the algorithm is favoring more commentary. They want
to see more about why people are wearing certain things
when it comes to fashion, more explanation. So substack goes
really deep into it, and you know, it just feels
more authentic because it's their platform that they own to
share their opinions.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And once you subscribe to any substats, because I'm pretty
bad with substect, I want to get more into it,
but I just haven't yet.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So how do Yeah, I subscribe to a handful because
I don't want to overwhelm my inbox with too many,
and I just there certain ones that I just I
read every single edition. So the examples are Alison Bornstein.
She is my numer Uno style inspiration, not just because
of what she wears, She's a stylist. I should say,
based in la and New York. She's also an author,
(10:21):
and she's the woman who, for anyone who doesn't know,
coined the wrong Shoe theory and the three word method,
which are like very much in the in the sort
of fashion lexicon now in terms of how people approach
styling themselves with the three words that describe your style
identity right. Alison is amazing and her newsletter on substack
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is just such a great resource that breaks down the
origin of trends. She's like an oracle that kind of
a bit like you and that you sort of like
to see where the where fashion is coming from and
what's coming through. She really kind of tells the story,
but also just in a way that I really I
really vibe with, Like I love her look. She's very
inspired by similar people, like the Awson Twins and like
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you know, like certain girls from different eras that I'm like, yeah,
that's me, and I think if you just find those people.
Another really good one is Leandro Medine Cohen. She used
to have a platform called The Man Repeller, and that's
how she rose to fame in the early days of
like Instagram and blogging, and now she runs her own
I guess sort of media. She's got her own kind
of footprint on media, but her substack is basically just like,
(11:27):
sometimes she'll really go into what she's wearing, and she'll
give like a really long explanation for the inspiration behind
the look and what she's vibing with. And then sometimes
she'll just do like his forty outfits of me wearing
jeans in different ways or forty ways I'm interpreting this
necklace trend or something. It's so like it's nerdy fashion,
but I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, following people like Leandro where it is a bit
out there, so you're not necessarily gonna wear it day
to day, but you can get little tips and inspiration.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, Cherry pick the bits you because she's very extreme
and experimental. But you can just take Okay, she's wearing
that certain necklace. I can I can wear that necklace
in this way. It doesn't have to be in But
she's like a very early adopter of trends, if not
the instigator of totally.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And then there's some tastemakers or influencers that I feel
are very much aligned with how I dress, So I
love following them for that sort of day to day
and sometimes outside of Australia and Australian influencers as well,
because I get like it's a lot of influencers are
wearing the same outfit or they've all been gifted them.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yes, so true.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
She's sometimes interesting to see how they've styled that particular dress.
But it is nice just looking outside of our Australian zone.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
For you, who's your like? Okay, if we have to
wrap this up, like who are your top three that
you go to? Maybe we could each list are like
faves at the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I love Rocky Barnes for I love how she plays
with color, so she's an LA based influencer.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I love Sincerely Jewels.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, yeah, you look a little bit like her.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Oh that's god, that's the most flattering that you've ever
said to me.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
No, Sincerely Jewels, she's just she's petite brunette, but it's
more like the way that she I don't know. If
you align with someone's taste level and their style, it's
a really great thing to be able to have them
as a resource, like I said, to go to when
you need inspiration, Like for me, if I can't get
dressed in the morning. Sometimes I'll just go to her
page and be like, what's she wearing? You're going to
get an idea from that.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And like what you said, it's almost like a similar
physique helps as well. It does help so you can
see what it's going to look like on them. Definitely
on home soil, I do like pitt Edwards because she's
got that sort of sporty chic aesthetic that I be.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
So you yeah, yeah, you're so similar. I get that completely,
but there's that alignment.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Next question, how am I meant to look after my clothes?
I invest in better quality pieces, but they still depreciate
at the same rate as my cheapest stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Help.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So I love this question because sometimes you are if
you buy something more expensive, it is for the brand
and the logo. Right fair, Let's think about why it
is more expensive. What makes something more expensive, And it
could be the fabric quality, so whether it's like natural fibers,
et cetera, so that should be lasting longer and not
say smelling as much, the fabric weight, so the thickness
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of the cotton construction. Like I always find zippers on
the cheap things break really easily.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Did you see that video? From. I think it was
wisdom K.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Should we talk about this briefly because to that point,
wisdom K is a huge men's fashion million blogger. Yeah yeah,
he blocked blogger, huge men's fashion influencer and taste maker.
And he posted a video where he had some new
pieces that he ordered from Mew. Mew, which is the
top fashion brand in the world right now according to
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the list Index and is obviously like high in luxury fashion.
And I think it was a jacket where the button,
one of the buttons.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Came off when he tried it on.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
He was doing like a let me show you what
I bought, and it came off, And then just to
just to kind of see if it was that particular
garment or it was a fault with the style or
the brand at large in how they're making things, he
ordered it again and the same thing happened.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Unbelievable, I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Which not very good for me, so not necessarily the
whole designer clothes, but for the most part, like that's
a bit of an out there example, like for the
most part better quality, And I still don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Where that ended up. I'd love to go back into
his page see what happened and how they did, how
they pr themselves. But stitching as well as like Kate
with their cardigan, their scarlet cardigan, you know that iconic.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Kh A T either high end New York.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That brand. Yeah, and it was Katie Holmes who was
wearing the scarlet cardigan. I have a little brawlin underneath
it made it viral, So she's no one for doing
this double stitch on this cardigan. So that quality, they're
the stitching because some cardigans I own, like I've got
a couple from Uniclo that just don't have that quality
and they stretch out and things like that. So I
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guess all in all, just saying these things are kind
of what makes something better quality and that's why you're
paying that price point. But then how do you look
after these things? My number one tip is just to
dry clean all of it and always.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, what if you're the type of person who just
doesn't do you know what I mean by that? Like
you know you should dry clean your clothes, but you
just don't, because for many people that's like an extra step.
Either it's costly, it's another task. What can you do
if you're not you're not having a dry cleaning budget.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I think though on that if you're buying something, you
need a factory in that you need to get this,
get it dry. Pay.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Oh that's part of the part of the investment. My
I'm going to counter that with my top tip here,
which is so obvious. Hang them up, okay, And I'm
giving myself this advice to my closet. I don't have
a nice closet like I. It's my number one great
with my house. I love my little house, but I
do not have enough closet space. So unfortunately, basically the
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way it's structured is I have two hanging cupboards, one
on either side, and then in the middle I have
my like pile of shame, and my pile of shame
is just clothes piled and stacked on top of each other.
Those are the pieces that I actually wear day and
day out, and my all my nitpants, all my T shirts. Fine,
they're all folded. They can afford to be a bit slouchy, right, yeah,
but you're nicer pieces.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Hang them up.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Don't throw them over the back of a chair, Don't
let them pile up on the ground, because that's going
to affect Like I also think when they're hanging, you
just intrinsically treat them better by virtue of the fact
that you've the hierarchy of your closet is that you've
given them place, you know, a place to hang, and
therefore it's almost like you just pay.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
You're just treating them, respecting them. That's the word I
was looking for.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So yeah, if you are hanging it up, they do
say to give a bit of space as well between
each but this.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Is also it is a luxury.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Do you ever look at an influencer's wardrobe and they
share like they're like, oh, I've just updated my wardrobe
for spring, and it's like here are all my ome's
handbags and here's my huge walking closet and you're like,
nice for you.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah. Back to the dry cleaning, and I guess another
way around that as well. I guess spot cleaning. So
if I try, I do try and with get a
little bit more aware out of them. So, for example,
the dress I'm wearing now, hopefully I can rewear this
again like I've just been seeing in it for the podcast,
so it's not having to dry clean every time. But
also another tip is investing in a handheld steamer.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yes, Oh my god, you got one of these at
I do. I steamed my outfit this morning. I steamed
my jeans. I steamed my jeans because they just look
because when you've chucked them in a drawer or on
a pile, they get creased and they just It really
does affect the way your clothes look.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah. Yeah, it makes them feel crisp, polish, that sort
of clean, the look that we were talking.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
About, straight out of a straight out of a boutique.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Clean clean girl can get them clean and steam them
if you want to look clean.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But I've got one. Mine was seventy dollars from being Lee.
We can include it in the show notes. But it's
just it was so easy. You have it in the laundry,
a quick steam over. It's essentially also just a nice
easier way than getting the ironing board out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh yeah, absolutely every gown needs a steamer.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So the next one is how do I use that
headscarf that I have in my wardrobe. It's so cute,
I just don't know how to attach it to my head.
Can I wear it as a belt or like a scarf?
Or is that out of fashion? Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, and yes I think now is
your time. Never have headscarves had more of a moment
true right.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Everywhere at the moment. They're so chic. I love them.
We saw them all over New York Fashion Week, even
in Paris, have been everywhere, Margaret Howe, I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
The Celene show is a really good reference for innovative
ways to wear scarves, because can I just say Selene
by Michael Ryder. He's a designer that's taken over Selene famously,
once designed by Phoebe Filo, little fashion history lesson really
made scarves chek again and like the echo of that
has lasted decades since she exited a decade, I should say,
(19:57):
since she exited the brand. Michael Ryder really brought that
esthetic back. Selene is a French brand that's very much
known for I guess the look of like French women
wearing scarf like it goes back to Ermes and the Twilly,
the iconic Twilly. But these are brands that really know
how to show you and demonstrate how to integrate a
scarf into your look in a way that feels effortless
and polished rather than like costume.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Me totally, and they are so timeless and evergreen. Like
you said, like, I'm sure lots of us have that
scarf sitting in the wardrobe. It's just like almost like
do you feel game enough or confident enough to include it?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That is so true, because can I just say, oh
my gosh, such a good point. I am more of
a bandanner person than a scarf person. I've always like,
not just because they're on trend now, but always had
bandanas in my wardrobe. And I mean like the little
red one or the little black one with a bandanna print,
and it's something that when you say do you feel
game enough? I always like the look of Like when
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I make the effort to include the bandanna in my outfit,
I'll always wear like I'll wrap it over like so
it's almost like wearing it like a choker around my neck,
and it always makes my outfit look better. But sometimes
something stops me at the door that goes to extra.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yes, too much in that take it off and then I'll.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Put it on my bag or something instead of just
having the confidence to wear it around my neck. But
the times that I have worn it around my neck,
I've had compliments about my outfit all day.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Every day, So I think that's we should both If
we're both feeling like that, we just need to accept it.
I think this is like you said, it's our time
to start wearing them. It's a bit of a flex
and just do it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So how do you wear that?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well? I think there's like five different ways. There's the classic,
like you were saying ten that next scuff, whether it
be sort of spun around to make like a thin
sort of band, all that sort of classic French way.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What's the classic French way?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I think just having the tie at the front and
sort of tied and sitting to the side a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That's such, like I said, a flex, because for me,
it always reads a little bit like air host DESSI
not always.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It can feel costume or you're trying to be like
you just got back from Paris or something. Want you
to hear in Paris.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Emily in Paris, she would she would wear it that way.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But I also love the headscarf, so I'm so I
wore one on my head on the weekend. But it
can feel piraty. No, they look so good on you.
But I tried this the other day. I tried it.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
My husband was like, what do you like? Who do
you think you are? And I was like, I'm trying
to be cool.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Babe, and I took it straight off my head.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
For anyone listening who has one and wants to try
get assistants actually tying it at the back, I think
so doing like fold it into a triangle, tied up
at the back, but just like get help tucking in
that bit, so there's not the big fly away bandana.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Look, do you have it so some of your hair
your part is visible or is it over the front.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Of your head? It's just over my part, but yeah,
it's over my head's straight.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Hair helps?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Hair help that doesn't. Yeah, so having cut hairs covering
the ears, yeah, dinner over the top.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, maybe we need a tutorial to take something so good.
I actually wrote an article for Mama Mea about all
the different ways that we in the office are wearing
bandanas and scarves right now and and different ways to
do it. So, hey, if you want a little bit
more further reading, love that, I'll assign you that article.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
We'll maybe we'll put a link in the show.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Sounds really good. I'd actually love to read that. And also,
of course the bag accessories, like you said, that's like
the easy, low hanging fruit way to include a scarf. Yeah,
and just add some color. Do you sometimes? Fine, you
walk out the door and you've got just jeans and
a white top or something. You just want a little
bit of personality.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And every day, yeah, every day. That's why I always
have one tight around my bag handle. Next question kind
of similar point. Here are scrunchies uncool or cool? Okay, like,
where are we going with this?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
This was a little bit random to be I see them. Firstly,
I'm a little bit indifferent to be honest about scrunchies,
But a scrunchies, a scrunchy, like, I do think.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That there's a lot, you know, a loaded item. Think
of that Sex and the City episode. Is that a
lost reference?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
There's Sex in the City episode where Carrie and Berger,
her ex boyfriend, are standing in line at a at
a restaurant and take away joint and Burger see someone
wearing a scrunchy and like thinks it's thinks it's stylish,
and she says Carrie goes, she like quips they're not
from New York and he goes, well, what makes you
think that? She goes because she's wearing a scrunchy, and
(24:30):
he goes, well, let's ask them. And then and she says,
excuse me, are you from New York?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I think?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And she goes, oh, yeah, she thinks I'm from New York.
But anyway, the point is, it's not just a scrunch
it's been a baggy.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that there is some nostalgic
charm to a scrunchy, but the question being are I
uncol It's the irony is The first podcast I did
with Nothing to Wear was about what makes something cool?
And I really do think a scrunchy it's just who's
wearing it and how you style it. Yeah, what are
your favorite shoes that are comfy enough to stomp ten
(25:05):
thousand steps a day in that Aunt's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay, This is a very subjective topic, and it's an
issue because I have said a million times. If I've
said it once, I've said it a million times. I'm
an open toe shoe person. I could comfortably be in
slides or thongs all day, every day.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And I am.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And I wrote an article for Mama Mea a few
months ago about how when I was in Europe. I
wore these, like jelly strap flats from Bellini, jelly strap
thongs all day. Every day, walked twenty thousand steps a day,
and the people came for me. They were like, irresponsible,
No you didn't. I don't believe you. And I know
(25:46):
I legitimately did. I have the proof on my camera
roll that I did. And they didn't break fine, and
some of them would break short. That's fine, But like
I think, it just depends what your definition of comfort is.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And I read this and defaulted to a vacation. You're
doing the steps over in Europe, but this could be
someone walking around the city, right, you might have to
wear a certain stuff is of shoe. Okay, so my
head went to, yeah, vacation shoe. I love Amez shirt FRA,
which is a sandal slash slide. These ones are obviously
quite expensive, but there's different alternatives out there.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Have you had the return on investment from buying those
thousand percent?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
There my absolute go to shoe. I've walked thousands of kilometers.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
They're kind of like a really extremely high end version
of a Birkenstock. That's I just want to make the
point that Birkenstock if you like, Yes, you could go
to the boutique, you know, one of the boutiques in
your town and they have like a decent range, But
the international boutiques and the online stock is for Birkenstock
are where you can get some of the more elevated styles.
(26:52):
So I know, Nedda Porter has a small range. I
think far Fetch has the biggest one. If you go
on there you can get the coolest sweep. There's velvet ones,
there's ones with like chic gold buckles, like rivets and
studs on them.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So just like have a look through that because in
terms of a comfortable shoe, you can walk all day in.
Birkenstock are like v og.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Isn't it funny how they've become pretty Like they've become
cool again.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
They have a range called Birkenstock. I think it's called
Birkenstock nineteen seventy four, maybe that's it's it's definitely like
a decade and the Birkenstocks are over one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's like their luxury range.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Well, they were also another one of mind, the mules version,
like you said, the Spade Birkenstocks.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oh, like the one that's like a closed toe.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I love a sandal where like the herbs, because
it's got that exposed heel, so nothing there's not that
risk of something rubbing. But if you don't like an
open toe unlike yourself, Tam the mule is a really
good option. And yeah, probably better for me hiding the
toes if I haven't had a heady or something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh I just don't care. I'm like, I'm on the
beach all day, it doesn't matter. I actually live in
Alias may An Australian brand. They have their footbed sandals.
They have countless designs, and even though we've gone towards
more of a thin strap sort of season with thongs trending,
I think, you know, those chunky sandals in the leather,
(28:16):
oh yeah, are always going to be stylish. I don't
think they're ever going to be like out so to speak.
I have a pair like padded black leather two straps
kind of again like a Birkenstock vibe, and I just
wear them all year.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So that's a good tip.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But then in terms of thongs, there has been some
advancement in like cool thongs that have arch support. Because
when the people came for me, when I put out
that story about my clear thongs. They were like, where's
the arch support?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I was like, good point.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I guess from an orthopedic point of view, I could
be more responsible.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
So they have.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, there's a brand called Tubes that has recently launched
a thong called the BFF and apparently you can comfortably
walk twenty thousand steps a day in those. They have
thousands of good reviews. And also Archies is another brand
that does like kind of like Cavianas, but just with
that added arch support.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Nice. I love that idea. Probably something we should think
about we as.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
We get older, pubbling around on the couplestones, right, what
have we got next? Goldilocks underwear recommendations please, I'm not
a g banger goal but also sometimes fine high coverage
briefs give me a weird shape under my midi skirt.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So spciffy.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You know. I actually put a Q and A out
on my Instagram last night, and a couple more questions
came in about underwear to wear. Yeah, start stop being yeah,
when do you go to so you know they're saying
that you have you wear ten percent of your wardrobe
ninety percent of the time. I feel I am like
that with my underwear. Even though I've got some really
nice things. Nine times, even though it's clean, fresh underwear,
(29:45):
I'm always wearing Bonds. I find that they've got the
seamless bikini, the boycout, the G string, all the different types.
It's affordable. It's three for thirty nine dollars, and it's
just the accessibility of underwear. You can get it from
wool Worst, you can get it from bigw So if
I'm just there, I just grab it.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They've got a good strategy with where they put their
their product, don't they. Yeah, I love Bonds too. I'm
going to throw in their step. One has excellent underwear
if you haven't heard of them. No simple like for me,
simple black undies. I mostly wear black undies. It all cuts.
And then another favorite brand for me is Booty.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I love. We both said Booty.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
We both put Booty on our little document, our little notes.
They do seamless styles in bamboo, which is like cotton
but even softer.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's really nice. And the high cut full brief as well,
and they're about twenty dollars of hair, so not like overly.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I think that's good because I mean it's an undergarment
you're wearing all the time, right, I've got styles from
both brand Step one and Booty that like, I don't
think you should disclose how long you've had your underwear
for now that I think about it, but let's just
say I get a lot of wear out of them, washingware,
wash and wear, waterwear great.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah. Another really nice brand in Australian brand that's come
out recently is called Nala. Yes, and it's kind of
it's that you know, you've got that internal battle where
you want to sort of just practical, easy to wear
cuff of the undies, but you sometimes want it to
be a little bit sexy.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I feel like g Nala hits that balance really well.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I also go to cotton on body a lot. I
honestly like their underwear is good. Like they've studied, they've
done the work. They have so much range, they're on trend.
But if you just want basic, you know, affordable undies,
nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
With that, and I think the outtake the tip for
that is a high cut leg finish, so high waisted,
high cut leg yeah, to stop any sort of seams
and seamless if you can get that. But if you're
not a g string gal, try and get a high
cut leg. So there are our tips and tricks with fashion.
Why don't we move into bougie and budget.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, I feel like we've solved a few dilemmas there.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Hopefully that help. Hopefully it helps.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
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you know, across all our channels.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
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Speaker 3 (31:50):
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Speaker 1 (32:07):
Very expensive how old are these percent?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
All right? So our bougie and budget this week, Tam,
what's your bougie?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I'm actually wearing my bougie today. Don't you love that?
But it lines up so my bougie. Okay, just a
bit of history. If you know me, you know I
love a statement collared shirt, like a short sleeve shirt.
It's kind of just my go to piece, especially in
summer when I want to look elevated but still relaxed.
So I've got this like growing collection of these shirts
(32:37):
and I was looking for one in a lace or
a This is actually a brodery angolaise. Like it's gorgeous,
It's really pretty pretty. It is a white shirt in
a sort of resort style. It's not a print, but
it's got like flower detailing on it woven into it
and then these kind of mesh panels. It's really hard
to explain now that I'm trying. Let me tell you
where it's from. It's from Morrison, Okay. Morrison is an
(33:00):
Australian brand that just does a great shirt like they
do everything else in your wardrobe, but they gosh, they
nail a shirt. I had one in Linen last year
that I wore quite a lot that had like an
embroidered detail of like fish and stuff on it.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
And I've never got more compliments on anything I've won.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
So it is called the Mani Onnglais shirt. It's two
hundred and ninety nine dollars, so it's not a cheap
shirt by any means. But I can definitely test to
the quality of Morrison's pieces and their shirts.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I've bought them before. What's your bougie?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So my bougie this week is actually a silk scarf,
since we were speaking of scarves. It's this angus the
label silk Scarf here. It's one hundred and nine dollars,
so for a silk scarf. But how amazing is this
print here? Can you describe it to us? So it
feels like positano in a silk scarf. So it's got
(33:54):
like a little sardine you can imagine like cartoon drawings
on a silk scarf. It's got a little sardine tin,
little chili's print paint.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's a print that's been like it's a painting that's been.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Pret illustration and it's Yeah, it's just really fun for
summer and I love it. It's sort of the size
as well where I can wear it as I've wanted
a lot as just a bag accessory, but as a
bandana as well.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
She's putting it on her head.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Everybody there it is, but just so fun for summer.
I really really love the print. So yeah, Angers is
the label and it actually just launched.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I haven't heard of label. Have to check them out.
That's such a great it's fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
What's your budget, Tam.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I have been on a journey Lucinda to find shorts
that I like. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Shorts are a hard thing to buy. I do wear
shorts through summer, but I'm really picky about the styles
because I find that they just a lot of them
just don't flattery. They're not cut for me. So a
brand that I really like their shorts silhouette is Series
(34:57):
Life Cres Life. They have a style called the Miler short.
I la comes in lots of different colorways prints. It's
a really nice roomy cut in a nice soft cotton.
And I got the Gingham like brown, white, check Gingham.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
So there are a little short like is it almost
box a short style? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Almost box are short, but these are more like tapping
into that trend that I'm seeing for shorts that really
do kind of give pajama short.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But in a cool way. I'm very into that too.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So yeah, they're Gingham and I think they also have
a red Gingham pair which is really cute, maybe green
as well. But they're sixty dollars, which I think is
pretty good for like a good quality cotton short, and
I've been wearing them NonStop.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
What's your budget?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
My budget? I've been sitting on this one for a
while because I haven't pulled the trigger on buying them.
But it's the slim square toe Havianas.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Oh I have these?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Do you yeah, in black or white. Yeah, yeah, I
love I just love the square toe and it's sort
of one of those if you know, you know vibes.
I feel like Havianas have had a bit of slack
since a few years now because there's so many other
options available and they're a little bit sort of okker.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Do you think no, did you miss?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I can't believe you, Like they had this massive glow
up everyone's wearing, but.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Don't you think it's But recently, I think, like i'd say,
two years ago, yes, it was still a little bit like,
oh you're wearing having.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Anna, Yeah, and then everything changes change and then at
Copenhagen Fashion Week, every single girl was wearing Havanas.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So these square toes I think are really nice because
maybe it's because where I don't know, I was so
familiar with seeing them on these.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
That's why they don't feel new to us.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
That's why if you're it's like this is cool, unexpected,
Well like, no, that's very expected.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But they were always so comfy and easy and like
the price point forty five dollars for the slim square toe.
But yeah, I just I still haven't pulled the trigger.
I wouldn't mind getting the black ones. I love the
idea of white fit wearing a white.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You'll wear them to death, though.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I have just the red classic thicker strap with the
round toe, and I just live in them.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Honestly. Yeah, I feel like they're cool, so I'm yeah.
No shame, no shame. She's on board.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's all we have time for today. Thank you for
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Speaker 2 (37:20):
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