May 20, 2025 • 26 mins
Jessica Leahy (model, journalist and all-round fashion powerhouse) joins Host Leigh Campbell to spill the tea on Australian Fashion Week 2025! From polka dots and leather gloves to Nagnata's bury-in-your-garden denim (yes, really!), they break down the runway highlights and what's actually worth adding to your wardrobe. Spoiler alert: cherry red is having a major moment.
Drowning in outfit indecision? Jessica's genius hack: choose accessories as the base of all your weekly fits to avoid fashion decision fatigue. Think metallic bags or statement earrings that work with everything. They also get real about runway diversity - yes, it's better than the bad old days, but still not quite there.
EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Jess's Budget: Route 66 Vintage Tees
Leigh's Budget: Staple The Label Fluffy Knit Jumper $99
Jess's Boujee: Nagnata Denim Jeans $450
Leigh's Boujee: Rebecca Vallance Hazel Shirt $349
For more Aussie gems, read this: LEIGH CAMPBELL: My favourite lesser-known Australian fashion brands. And their best buys.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
To do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell.
In every week, I chat to an expert who helps
us work out how to get more out of the
clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is
and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I am
thrilled to be joined by someone who truly understands Australian
(00:52):
fashion from every angle. She's a journalist, a model, a presenter,
an author and a fellow podcast host with her iconic,
soft and curious pod, I'm talking about none other than
Nothing to Wear fath Jessica Lay. She has fifteen years
experience in the fashion industries. She's worked with iconic Australian
(01:12):
and international brands like R. M. Williams, Bonds, Ralph Lauren
and Calvin Klein. No big deal, but I particularly love
Jess for her unwavering commitment to positive body image, empowerment
and inclusivity, both in media and in fashion. And today
she's helping me dissect Australian Fashion Week, which happened last week,
(01:32):
and we're going to break down how we can adapt
some of the off the runway styles and trends into
our everyday wardrobes and basically just talk about what fashion
week is, why it happens, how it works, and what
goes on behind the scenes. Hi, friend Jess, Hello, how
are you so good? Have you lost your voice? After
fashion Week? There's been a lot of chit chatting, I
have to say, a lot of small talk, a lot
(01:53):
of small talk. Well I got to bump into a
lot last week. But I've known you for a million years,
Cosmo days and then you're always being dragged into MoMA
Mia for many things.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Which I'm always happy about.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Actually, we love it. Last time you were on here,
you we talked dopamine dressing.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We did emotional dress sets. It still rings true for
me and I've felt it a lot this past week.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I know, right, it's like anything goes so that's quite exciting.
But before we get into fashion week, I ask returning
guests two questions. Do you have the biggest fashion splurge
or impulse purchase that comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Something that just pops in which I don't regret at all,
But it was definitely like aUI when I.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Bought it for the wallet?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, I got a Gucci Jackie bag and that
was something I bought myself. And how long ago? I
mean it's I think it was like two years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And you use her a lot, not as much as
I should.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But I am getting a little bit more liberal, and
also I am trying to be like where your stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, you know what I mean, every day it's on
an occasion, Yeah, don't.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Let it just sit in the calico at the top
of the that's the.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Spending so important and you've worked so hard and then
you're like, I don't want to use it.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But it's like and she's so pretty, she goes with everything.
She's just black and white. Do you have a style
muse currently Pamela Anderson, Yes, obsessed.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh my god, I love that so much. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I just think it's almost just because she's kind of
returned to herself. I always thought she was the hottest,
like from back in the day like Baywatch days incredible,
like her and calm and like I love sexy girls
me so like that was just so beautiful. But then
now she's just stepped into this phase where she is
being herself with her own human skin.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, And I feel like it's great because what we
expected of her was to be a sexy girl with
the eye makeup and the you know, the whole beauty look.
But she's still just radiating you know, sexuality and just confidence,
but she doesn't have to do the whole hair and makeup.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's just what we're coming to in this day and age,
like we're getting into that little pointy place where I
think things are getting a little bit hunger games like irl, Yes,
and it's just nice to see someone just pulling back
from that and just being like, I'm actually me do
what I want, and I'm going to kind of look
how I want to look and actually look like myself anyway.
It's so beautiful to see someone just like, yeah, kind
(04:11):
of embracing what they actually look like. I love that,
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I want to talk Fashion Week. Most people don't know
exactly when I say most people, you know, it's an
industry event. So the lay person who doesn't work in
fashion doesn't really understand what it's about. So can you
give us a quick rundown? You know, what are we
seeing and why and when are the normal people going
to see it?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well? I think what we're seeing is we're seeing what
the designers are bringing out, obviously for their next collections.
And usually it's always about you know, the buyers getting
to have a look and then they can purchase, you know,
in order whatever is because not everything on the runway
gets made, right, So that's why some things look kind
of crazy in outlandish and people like as if anyone's
ever going to wear that, And some of those pieces
(04:53):
are only just to show off like the aesthetic of
the brand, yes, and then other pieces are obviously ready
to wear and like you know, if someone comes in
there like we want that top, that's skirt, blah blah blah.
But that's what gets made. Yeah, So that's what fashion
week is about. It's about showcasing what they're acting they
want to create for the next season.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yes, so it's a bit of a crystal ball for
I guess you and I I mean you model and
to ten, I saw your running around last week going backstage,
front stage, all over the place and for us, you know,
as media, it's for us to know what's coming up,
and like you say, buyers in Australia but also internationally
going okay, that brand's great, and yeah, let's okay. I've
seen you know, a lot more a lot of Sheer again,
(05:35):
so you know, she is coming as a trend overall,
so kind of everyone kind of getting across what's coming up.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And I think a lot of people don't realize there
are some Australian brands that do really well overseas, yes,
more than you know in Australia, like you know, even
in like Arab markets and things like that, because it's
that modesty dressing. And I think we've got some beautiful brands,
Like I know that Zimmerman did really well overseas before
they kind of did well in Australia. Yes, yeah, yeah,
they did do well, but it was just like you know,
(06:02):
that kind of modesty dressing even when.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You travel to if I ever walked past to Zimmerman
or I saw Alimes when I was overseas, and I'm like,
I'm so proud, and you forget that, you know, our
beautiful brands that you know, are big names.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But they're global totally. I mean, Nagnat are huge globally.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So cool. I love that we're going to talk about
that in a little bit. How many years or how
long have you been attending or been involved in Fashion Week?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I feel like I've been involved since like my late
teen since I started modeling.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay, so you're not giving me a time frame like
fifteen years. Yeah, yeah, so about that.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But I feel like this year is the funnest year
for me because I feel like finally I have friends there,
Like it feels a bit familiar and I feel less.
You know, it's just like anywhere you feel like you
finally built up a bit more of a community. Yes,
so it's a lot more fun now to attend rather
than like kind of daunting. It's more like I'm going
to go see what my friends have made.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I wanted to ask you that because I think I've
had some dms on Instagram saying, oh my gosh, is
it intimidating? Is everyone wearing head to toe designer? So
do you find it intimidating or I guess not now.
But it's an interesting question to ask because personally, I
love Australian fashion. I like the fashion shows, but I
do find Fashion Week as an attendee and I'm not
(07:18):
even modeling or I don't know, I just turn up
quite overwhelming. Do you think it's clicking, like for the
outside person, do you think that that reputation or that
stereotype is true.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I think everything I would feel intimidated if I walked into, like,
you know, an accounting.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Meeting for your first time.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, and I don't know what I'm talking about, and
I don't have colleagues or peers in that room. I
think everything is intimidating if it's not you, if you're
still getting to know, yeah, the colleagues and peers that
you have. I feel like, now after all these years,
I have friends who I like genuinely are my mates. Yeah,
which is so nice, but obviously yeah, Like I think
(07:57):
people always want to poopo it as something that's a
little bit superficial, you know. It's like people do want
to make clothes feel superficial a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And the thing is is I always say to that, like,
well wear something you're uncomfortable and see how much it matters.
So you know what I mean, Like it's a choice
that you're making every day, and yeah, these are the
people that are bringing you, yeah, you know the trends
and yeah, and often they're pretty like cookie and weird
and like they were the outsiders. So it's like they
finally kind of found their people in their place. I agree.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I've just loved watching the diversity of what people are
wearing and the expression. You know, this is art. You know,
you wouldn't say an art gallery or you know, an
art exhibition is superficial, but this is people wearing art
or creating art, and it's just on people's bodies instead
of on a campus.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah. And I think once you know the history of
fashion and things like that, it's it's more interesting. You know.
You can see like when I say the Jackie bag,
you know what I'm talking? Yes, do you know what
I mean? Like it's Jackie, Oh, it's that bag? You
know what I'm saying. It's like there is history We're
woven into people's clothes.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And in Australia too. You know, I was chatting to
someone last week and we were talking about, you know,
when Sassen Bibe was Sassin Byde and the Rats leggings
and you know that looking we were looking back at
old age photos from you know, ten years ago and
that sort of sequin skirt. You know, Australian fashion does
have that heritage and it's quite nice to see that
evolve over the decades.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Totally, and I think you only get a perspective of
time when you've lived through trends.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Talk to me about what you loved last week, standout trends, looks, shows, attendees, anything, well.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I obviously the week started with Colors and Patty, which
was beautiful and I think was super fitting. And the
Carriageworks showroom, which, even though the Carla show was in
Circular Key, the Carriagework showroom has been called the Colors
and Patty Room, so I think that's a really nice
nod beautiful with that legacy. The show was very Carlor like,
(09:57):
you know, it was those silhouettes, lots of beautiful like
feminine shapes, like flouncy. Rachel Rutt was wearing this beautiful
polka dot dress which was so floating and gorgeous, like
a kind of hole to neck, and then she had
elbow length leather gloves on.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I loved it. I was like, that is sick, you know,
like that that kind of contrast because I love being girly,
but I also think that I love it to kind
of like, you know, mess it up a little bit
as well. So that was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And I think also for us getting dressed at home,
it's kind of like the wrong shoe theory, but you
can apply it to anything in new ordrobe and like
technically if it doesn't go, that's kind of great. It
doesn't have to be your matchy match or just try it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I think something has to draw the eye to go.
Do I like that or not? Like it's got to
you don't want to walk in the room and have
no one have kind of an opinion on your outfit.
I feel anyway, I want.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Someone's somewhere you're going if you go into your accounting meetings.
We spoke earlier, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But yes, and then I think another standout show for
me was obviously.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Nagnata Yes amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, Laura and Hannah they is that their first show
that was their first on schedule show, yeah, which they
haven't shown on schedule before, and it was really big
for them because they launched Denim. Yes, it was super excited.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I loved it because if for listeners that don't know.
It's kind of an active way brand, but I'd more
say a lifestyle brand.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I have a bunch of their shorts and I just
kind of wear them in summer with thongs and an
oversized shirt around to do chores. And I mean, I'm
not really an exercise person, but it was all beautifully
tonal and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Makething else that you love? Oh what else should I love?
I mean, I feel like my outfit today is hands
and gradel. Yes, I loved.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I was saying to you before we started filming. I
love velvet, but I if I wear it, I look
like I'm going to be in a pantomime for school.
But you can just do velvet so well, it's such
a lux fabric.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I love. I do love like a silky piece, like
you know, silk laundry.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, I Laundry, which is another Aussie brand in the show.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think you'd have talked about that before, yea, Yeah,
I love, I love silky. I love it's great to
fly in velvet.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it is all right, first class. Actually, I do
have like wide legged, black oversized pants, elastic waists that
a velvet that's genius. I know they go for traxit pants.
They feel like shaks.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Feel like trackies, but you don't feel like, oh, I'm
just walking around in my trackies all the time. Yeah, no,
it's good.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I personally loved Negali. It was the most beautiful, like
the prints were. They're all indigenous prints and they were
just so beautifully crafted with the garments that it just
felt fresh and different but not sort of trying to
make a statement and out there there were some beautiful
browns and Beija's. As you can tell, I'm a neutral girl.
(12:45):
I just thought that was so beautiful. And for me,
I always loved bian Caspenda, which is interesting that you
mentioned Krla Biancaspender is her daughter. I think she's my
favorite Australian fancy designer. It's all that sort of classic
tailoring but a bit of structure. There was some beautiful
sort of billowing like almost strapless tops, and then these
amazing satin pants that are structured at the top but
(13:08):
then kind of billowing at the bottom. And she introduced
swim which I thought was quite cool. It was a
very yeah, it was very hers, so not I wouldn't
say conservative, but very sort of classic. I have so
many of her pieces that I've bought many years ago
and they still look brand new. And so while it's
expensive price point and they you know, they're classic enough
to keep wearing, but like you say, a little bit
(13:28):
structur all different that every time I wear it, people
will be like, where's that from. I'm like Biancaspander and
they got to look for it. I'm like, oh no, it's
like eight years old. Thoughts on fashion Week and size,
inclusivity and diversity, you know, all encompassing. I've saw a
lot of I hate to say older, but I saw
a really nice representation of women that weren't twenty. What
(13:49):
are your thoughts because you were front stage and backstage, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Know, I feel like they were going to always have
this conversation about like diversity when it comes to you know,
size and race and age and gender and all that
kind of stuff. Obviously my answer is always the same
year after, could.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Be better, could be better, could be better.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
But at the same time, it's less token ISTI now
like we actually know the model's names. You know, those curvier.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Girls, you know, they're not just quickly finding someone on
social media as a ring in.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think I think it's like, yeah, we've seen girls
year after year on that runway, which is really nice
because it's that's what it's all about. It's about making
someone a personality, someone recognizable. It's not just about finding
you know, the yeah, feeling a brief and just recitling.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Because then everyone else is yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So it's it's I feel like, I feel like it
could be better in terms of everything, but the age,
the age I love, and I just think it's just
less shocking now to see like that's personally how I feel.
And that's where I see that gap being bridged, is
where I'm not shocked to see an older woman or
(14:57):
you know, come down the runway. I'm excited and I
and I don't even notice, and you know, we're all
going to get older, and I'm frankly like pretty sick
of the lack of acknowledgment of I've reposted this thing
that Andy me Dal had like a video and someone
asked her like, oh, now that you're over forty and
you're losing your beauty, Like she talks about this question
that she got and because you know, Andy McDowell was
(15:18):
just like forever the face of was it lorial?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yes, Yes, it's one of those big beauty faces forever.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And then remember when she went into Made and she
had her hair and it was like gray, and yeah,
she looked her age like, you know, she's what is
she in her sixties? I think so she looks incredible,
but like she looks like a six aged.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Beauty is not about age, you know, it's not. I
was quick segue, but I was on mid which is
Muma MIA's podcast for women who are mid thirty, forty
fifty sixties, and I had that question on Instagram too
once and I was like, well, I'm not a banana,
I'm not ham and women aren't something that go off
after a you know, we can be a beautiful vintage
chair or building, and you know, I think that's right,
(15:56):
but it's true because you know, women wear fashion of
all different sizes, of all different ages, and I like
it to you know, a footballer, it's like, well, once
they're thirty, they're out. And it's oftentimes with models it's like, oh,
in your thirties, now, what are you going to do
for your real career after that? And it's like no,
women still work in that industry regardless of their age.
(16:17):
So it's nice to see, but I hope we continue
to see more. Yeah, and it just becomes subconscious before
I ask you just about other Aussie faves. I was
stopped last week. I wish I knew the publication. It
was a video and someone asked me about what I
thought about Australian street style. You know, you go to
Westfield and you see seeds of linen and all the
same colors. You go to fashion Week and it is
(16:39):
so varied and so individual that I'm clocking all these
amazing different things. But when I was asked to sum
up Australian street style, give me your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It depends, like you know, Melbourne is very different to Sydney, Like,
you know, Melbourne is very New York, Sydney's very la
I think the temperature does change the way people dress
a little bit. Yeah, and you know Sydney is a
bit more like cleavage and shearing, a bit more.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like statemental yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Then Melbourn's a bit more covered up and like you know,
like yeah, you know, bookish.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, it's so true what I saw last week. Because
when they asked me that, I was like, well, look,
if I'm just looking at street style images of I
know it's Copenhagen Fashion Week, you can just tell, or
you can tell it's New York. Whereas I said Australian
Fashion Week, for me last week was you probably couldn't
really tell. It felt like not so much London Fashion Week,
but just being out in London. So many different trends, looks,
(17:32):
not trends, just really creative outfits that you can't really
go Okay. Besides rad everyone was wearing red and burgundy.
There wasn't There were a lot of red, so did I.
But what I loved was that there was just such
a huge array of different looks, different trends.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, I think the thing is about like Australia, I
wouldn't say we have like a distinct signature of how
we dress. Really like we're still pretty mismatched. We're very
multicultural society in terms of like I feel like people
go away, find themselves and come back. Like I moved
to London when I was younger, so I feel like
my kind of confidence in dressing is like I don't
(18:10):
mind if I look a little bit like Loud and Larry, because.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm like, that's what I love about you, and I
ask you to come back time and time again, because
I mean, I don't know what the right phrase is,
but people would say you're a curve model, which is
absolutely ridiculous because you're smaller than the standard Australian woman.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
But I love fluctuate.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I don't really fluctually, but you wear what you want.
You look phenomenal. You use confidence from your Instagram and
knowing you in real life and I mostly see you
on Instagram. That is so inspiring and that sounds really
kind of like lip service, but it's not. You're just like,
I feel fucking great I'm wearing this. You know, it's
just very individual and you feel I feel like you
(18:48):
feel really happy and confident what you wear.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, well I felt like last week as well. I
was really dressing how I dress like it was for
the first year, and I feel like I was talking
to Liz Sunshine, who shoots a lot, and she was
wearing the same thing every day, and we talked a
bit about how this year it felt like people weren't
doing as many go home get changed five changes And
the only look that mine that was featured on you know,
(19:10):
Vogue Runway, was I was wearing a sixteen dollar vintage
Nevada Cowboys T shirt and my own jeans. I think
I was wearing some Burberry sonnies, which is nice because
I love what Burbery is doing, especially speaking about the
age thing. But like that was me that I would
wear that any day of the week.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, and that was Indivindually, it was the.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
One that got kind of featured. And I feel like
it's because it speaks to wear how you actually would dress.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
There was a lot of sheer, There was still a
lot of tailoring. What's stuck in your head that you're
excited to wear in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, I think red red, and there was a lot
of red. So good on you, but yeah, no, but
it was almost that beautiful like cherry, kind of cherry red,
loved like a light chilled wine.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
All the good things are red.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I think as well, there was a lot of
things that you could have as a maximalist style, like
but it's almost like sometimes if you go so maximalist,
it almost becomes a neutral.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Totally more street style. What do you think the everyday
person that doesn't go to fashion Week can learn from
what we saw?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, you know what I did this year was I
wore a lot of the same shoes and bag or
you know, like accessory wise like and I think the
thing is is taking away some of that decision fatigue
every morning, right, I think you don't have to style
your whole outfit head to toe and change it up
every day. You know, have the kind of like metallic
(20:33):
bag or like, you know that big statement earring.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I was going to say, you.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Know, the high high boot and wear that all week
with all different looks, Like have that be your statement?
And like, you know, it's like that. It can be
daunting trying to dress like interestingly every day, but if
you kind of commit to I'm going to have this
particular bag, which is a bit loud and out there, yes,
but I'm going to work it in with all these
different looks. I think that that's something where you can
(20:58):
play around with fashion and it's less daunty.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Agreed, And mine was belts. I noticed so many people
had a trench or a blazer or even just a
jumper and just checking on a belt and sinching it
in the waist or whatever. It looks like you were
so effortless and timeless in chic, but maybe you just
grabbed a belt at the last minute.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Damn, honey, how wonld are these percent okay? Bougie and budget.
You don't have to give me exact products, you can brands,
just Aussie themed bougie and budget.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
My budget I'll start with that is Yeah. I did.
I bought a whole bunch of vintage tees this week
and I wore them to a couple of shows and
just like throughout the week, which I loved. There's a
shop on en More Road in a newtown called Route
sixty six.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And fashion Week wasn't far from there. No, I'm gonna
have to go back this week.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and I'm not usually I used to always be
afraid to kind of thrift to be because the shops
are a bit scat, but you know what, they've elevated
so many of that. Like I don't want to sound
like a snob.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
No, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know, it's like I'm having a good shopping extent
and you have.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
To be in the right frame of mind and have
time to sift.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But then but then now I feel like they've sifted
it for you. I feel like they've gotten there together
in this Route sixty six hop love Love Love. Speaking
of belts, you know, cowboy boots, but amazing vintage ship
teas and really good price point, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And although you know you don't know the brand, you're
supporting an aussy business because that store is an Australian
business that's doing what they can for the circular economy
and the environment totally.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And I got like so many shirts for under forty
bucks and I just.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Love I'll quickly do my budget. It's not they didn't
show up fashion week, because it's important to note that
you know, one percent of Astrone in fashion label show
fashion Week. It's incredibly expensive, but a brand I love
that's quite affordable. It's staple the label. And they have
a nitch that just came out. It's called the Ember
Fluffy Nit Jumper and it's just a cream, quite deep
v neck. It's ninety nine dollars. I've been looking for
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a cream jumper that doesn't throw yellow because I love
winter whites and it's I don't want it to be
too it's kind of off white.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, you don't want to be Margarini.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, that's the thing. It just it's not right. And
it's got a lovely V. And that's because I just
love checking on a necklace and then feeling like I've
done something so that with jeans, that with white likes
that with my sequence skirt ninety nine dollars. I love
stay for the label and I would love to see
some more affordable Aussie brand showing it fashion Week, because
you know, not everyone has eight hundred dollars for a blazer,
(23:20):
but that's one of my favorite brands. Tell me your bougie.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I bet I can guess my bougie. Well, I mean
I think it's yeah, we could say it's bougie, but
I think it's an investment. Agree, Gagnana everything and the
denim is amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I need to get into some of the dnims. This
was their first year doing dinner.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Their first year and you know what I feel like.
I spoke to Laura May about it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I went to school with Laura May, is like three
or four grades below me and always that beautiful and
kind and smart. Wow, And that's why I'm so happy
to see their brand do so well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, well, she's very clever, and you know, I think
you know she and Hannah has sister have made these
genes which are bury your jeanes. The whole concept is
you cut off the metallic parts, you cut off the
waistband and they're compossible.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know? And that's that's you know. I think the
whole greenwashing in the live sustainable fashion is like people
are making things where they're going to try and tell
you that you can wear it in threeenty thirteen, you know,
and it's like, no, this stuff is going to not
last that.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You're going to want to and your kids aren't going
to want to know.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But where we put it? And so it's like you
can bury these in your garden to put seeds and
then they will compost. It's organic cotton vegetable.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Guys, they really walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think. So I think I think it's just like
in a really like honest way about Like, No, I
don't think she's ever personally said that she's sustainable, no, like,
but you.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Can just tell, I mean from their vibes that they're
not going to just say something for the sake of it.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
No. Well, and you know, you know, fashion is a business.
I guess people are out to make money. It's definitely true.
But like still to that point, like I just think, yeah,
that whole concept of like creating something that then can
get buried in your garden instead of going to land
phill is. Like, I think it's amazing. Wow, I've never
heard of anything like that.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I want to go and bury someone and see what happens.
But I think you have to wait around a long time.
And if I buy some, I'm going to wear the
quickly for me. Another brand that didn't show but has
shown before, Rebecca Velance. I love her stuff. She has
just brought out the hazel shirt. It is expensive for
a shirt, three hundred and forty nine dollars. Pure silk,
the deepest, most delicious, rich chocolate.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, she makes beautiful, luxey vibes.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, very kind of black tie. But then she's got
some sort of suiting. And I just feel like this
rich chocolate silk shirt would make me feel so fancy
and so grown up with jeans, wide legged pants anything.
I just am not good enough at washing silk yet
to let myself invest in that. And I'm not dry
cleaning something like that all the time because cost per drying.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I think choky silk is like it speaks like
I'm a grown up.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, I'm a grown up. Oh, Jess, I love chatting
to you. Let's not wait for fashion week next year.
I'm gonna have you back, but thank you for joining me.
I hope you can rest your voice after a very
busy week last.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And thank You'll be having a vitamental after this.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
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Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell.
In every week, I chat to an expert who helps
us work out how to get more out of the
clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is
and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I am
thrilled to be joined by someone who truly understands Australian
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fashion from every angle. She's a journalist, a model, a presenter,
an author and a fellow podcast host with her iconic,
soft and curious pod, I'm talking about none other than
Nothing to Wear fath Jessica Lay. She has fifteen years
experience in the fashion industries. She's worked with iconic Australian
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and international brands like R. M. Williams, Bonds, Ralph Lauren
and Calvin Klein. No big deal, but I particularly love
Jess for her unwavering commitment to positive body image, empowerment
and inclusivity, both in media and in fashion. And today
she's helping me dissect Australian Fashion Week, which happened last week,
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and we're going to break down how we can adapt
some of the off the runway styles and trends into
our everyday wardrobes and basically just talk about what fashion
week is, why it happens, how it works, and what
goes on behind the scenes. Hi, friend Jess, Hello, how
are you so good? Have you lost your voice? After
fashion Week? There's been a lot of chit chatting, I
have to say, a lot of small talk, a lot
(01:53):
of small talk. Well I got to bump into a
lot last week. But I've known you for a million years,
Cosmo days and then you're always being dragged into MoMA
Mia for many things.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Which I'm always happy about.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Actually, we love it. Last time you were on here,
you we talked dopamine dressing.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We did emotional dress sets. It still rings true for
me and I've felt it a lot this past week.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I know, right, it's like anything goes so that's quite exciting.
But before we get into fashion week, I ask returning
guests two questions. Do you have the biggest fashion splurge
or impulse purchase that comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Something that just pops in which I don't regret at all,
But it was definitely like aUI when I.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Bought it for the wallet?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, I got a Gucci Jackie bag and that
was something I bought myself. And how long ago? I
mean it's I think it was like two years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And you use her a lot, not as much as
I should.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But I am getting a little bit more liberal, and
also I am trying to be like where your stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, you know what I mean, every day it's on
an occasion, Yeah, don't.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Let it just sit in the calico at the top
of the that's the.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Spending so important and you've worked so hard and then
you're like, I don't want to use it.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But it's like and she's so pretty, she goes with everything.
She's just black and white. Do you have a style
muse currently Pamela Anderson, Yes, obsessed.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh my god, I love that so much. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I just think it's almost just because she's kind of
returned to herself. I always thought she was the hottest,
like from back in the day like Baywatch days incredible,
like her and calm and like I love sexy girls
me so like that was just so beautiful. But then
now she's just stepped into this phase where she is
being herself with her own human skin.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, And I feel like it's great because what we
expected of her was to be a sexy girl with
the eye makeup and the you know, the whole beauty look.
But she's still just radiating you know, sexuality and just confidence,
but she doesn't have to do the whole hair and makeup.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's just what we're coming to in this day and age,
like we're getting into that little pointy place where I
think things are getting a little bit hunger games like irl, Yes,
and it's just nice to see someone just pulling back
from that and just being like, I'm actually me do
what I want, and I'm going to kind of look
how I want to look and actually look like myself anyway.
It's so beautiful to see someone just like, yeah, kind
(04:11):
of embracing what they actually look like. I love that,
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I want to talk Fashion Week. Most people don't know
exactly when I say most people, you know, it's an
industry event. So the lay person who doesn't work in
fashion doesn't really understand what it's about. So can you
give us a quick rundown? You know, what are we
seeing and why and when are the normal people going
to see it?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well? I think what we're seeing is we're seeing what
the designers are bringing out, obviously for their next collections.
And usually it's always about you know, the buyers getting
to have a look and then they can purchase, you know,
in order whatever is because not everything on the runway
gets made, right, So that's why some things look kind
of crazy in outlandish and people like as if anyone's
ever going to wear that, And some of those pieces
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are only just to show off like the aesthetic of
the brand, yes, and then other pieces are obviously ready
to wear and like you know, if someone comes in
there like we want that top, that's skirt, blah blah blah.
But that's what gets made. Yeah, So that's what fashion
week is about. It's about showcasing what they're acting they
want to create for the next season.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yes, so it's a bit of a crystal ball for
I guess you and I I mean you model and
to ten, I saw your running around last week going backstage,
front stage, all over the place and for us, you know,
as media, it's for us to know what's coming up,
and like you say, buyers in Australia but also internationally
going okay, that brand's great, and yeah, let's okay. I've
seen you know, a lot more a lot of Sheer again,
(05:35):
so you know, she is coming as a trend overall,
so kind of everyone kind of getting across what's coming up.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And I think a lot of people don't realize there
are some Australian brands that do really well overseas, yes,
more than you know in Australia, like you know, even
in like Arab markets and things like that, because it's
that modesty dressing. And I think we've got some beautiful brands,
Like I know that Zimmerman did really well overseas before
they kind of did well in Australia. Yes, yeah, yeah,
they did do well, but it was just like you know,
(06:02):
that kind of modesty dressing even when.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You travel to if I ever walked past to Zimmerman
or I saw Alimes when I was overseas, and I'm like,
I'm so proud, and you forget that, you know, our
beautiful brands that you know, are big names.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But they're global totally. I mean, Nagnat are huge globally.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So cool. I love that we're going to talk about
that in a little bit. How many years or how
long have you been attending or been involved in Fashion Week?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I feel like I've been involved since like my late
teen since I started modeling.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay, so you're not giving me a time frame like
fifteen years. Yeah, yeah, so about that.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But I feel like this year is the funnest year
for me because I feel like finally I have friends there,
Like it feels a bit familiar and I feel less.
You know, it's just like anywhere you feel like you
finally built up a bit more of a community. Yes,
so it's a lot more fun now to attend rather
than like kind of daunting. It's more like I'm going
to go see what my friends have made.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I wanted to ask you that because I think I've
had some dms on Instagram saying, oh my gosh, is
it intimidating? Is everyone wearing head to toe designer? So
do you find it intimidating or I guess not now.
But it's an interesting question to ask because personally, I
love Australian fashion. I like the fashion shows, but I
do find Fashion Week as an attendee and I'm not
(07:18):
even modeling or I don't know, I just turn up
quite overwhelming. Do you think it's clicking, like for the
outside person, do you think that that reputation or that
stereotype is true.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I think everything I would feel intimidated if I walked into, like,
you know, an accounting.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Meeting for your first time.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, and I don't know what I'm talking about, and
I don't have colleagues or peers in that room. I
think everything is intimidating if it's not you, if you're
still getting to know, yeah, the colleagues and peers that
you have. I feel like, now after all these years,
I have friends who I like genuinely are my mates. Yeah,
which is so nice, but obviously yeah, Like I think
(07:57):
people always want to poopo it as something that's a
little bit superficial, you know. It's like people do want
to make clothes feel superficial a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And the thing is is I always say to that, like,
well wear something you're uncomfortable and see how much it matters.
So you know what I mean, Like it's a choice
that you're making every day, and yeah, these are the
people that are bringing you, yeah, you know the trends
and yeah, and often they're pretty like cookie and weird
and like they were the outsiders. So it's like they
finally kind of found their people in their place. I agree.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I've just loved watching the diversity of what people are
wearing and the expression. You know, this is art. You know,
you wouldn't say an art gallery or you know, an
art exhibition is superficial, but this is people wearing art
or creating art, and it's just on people's bodies instead
of on a campus.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah. And I think once you know the history of
fashion and things like that, it's it's more interesting. You know.
You can see like when I say the Jackie bag,
you know what I'm talking? Yes, do you know what
I mean? Like it's Jackie, Oh, it's that bag? You
know what I'm saying. It's like there is history We're
woven into people's clothes.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And in Australia too. You know, I was chatting to
someone last week and we were talking about, you know,
when Sassen Bibe was Sassin Byde and the Rats leggings
and you know that looking we were looking back at
old age photos from you know, ten years ago and
that sort of sequin skirt. You know, Australian fashion does
have that heritage and it's quite nice to see that
evolve over the decades.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Totally, and I think you only get a perspective of
time when you've lived through trends.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Talk to me about what you loved last week, standout trends, looks, shows, attendees, anything, well.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I obviously the week started with Colors and Patty, which
was beautiful and I think was super fitting. And the
Carriageworks showroom, which, even though the Carla show was in
Circular Key, the Carriagework showroom has been called the Colors
and Patty Room, so I think that's a really nice
nod beautiful with that legacy. The show was very Carlor like,
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you know, it was those silhouettes, lots of beautiful like
feminine shapes, like flouncy. Rachel Rutt was wearing this beautiful
polka dot dress which was so floating and gorgeous, like
a kind of hole to neck, and then she had
elbow length leather gloves on.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I loved it. I was like, that is sick, you know,
like that that kind of contrast because I love being girly,
but I also think that I love it to kind
of like, you know, mess it up a little bit
as well. So that was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And I think also for us getting dressed at home,
it's kind of like the wrong shoe theory, but you
can apply it to anything in new ordrobe and like
technically if it doesn't go, that's kind of great. It
doesn't have to be your matchy match or just try it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I think something has to draw the eye to go.
Do I like that or not? Like it's got to
you don't want to walk in the room and have
no one have kind of an opinion on your outfit.
I feel anyway, I want.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Someone's somewhere you're going if you go into your accounting meetings.
We spoke earlier, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But yes, and then I think another standout show for
me was obviously.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Nagnata Yes amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, Laura and Hannah they is that their first show
that was their first on schedule show, yeah, which they
haven't shown on schedule before, and it was really big
for them because they launched Denim. Yes, it was super excited.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I loved it because if for listeners that don't know.
It's kind of an active way brand, but I'd more
say a lifestyle brand.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I have a bunch of their shorts and I just
kind of wear them in summer with thongs and an
oversized shirt around to do chores. And I mean, I'm
not really an exercise person, but it was all beautifully
tonal and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Makething else that you love? Oh what else should I love?
I mean, I feel like my outfit today is hands
and gradel. Yes, I loved.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I was saying to you before we started filming. I
love velvet, but I if I wear it, I look
like I'm going to be in a pantomime for school.
But you can just do velvet so well, it's such
a lux fabric.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I love. I do love like a silky piece, like
you know, silk laundry.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, I Laundry, which is another Aussie brand in the show.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think you'd have talked about that before, yea, Yeah,
I love, I love silky. I love it's great to
fly in velvet.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it is all right, first class. Actually, I do
have like wide legged, black oversized pants, elastic waists that
a velvet that's genius. I know they go for traxit pants.
They feel like shaks.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Feel like trackies, but you don't feel like, oh, I'm
just walking around in my trackies all the time. Yeah, no,
it's good.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I personally loved Negali. It was the most beautiful, like
the prints were. They're all indigenous prints and they were
just so beautifully crafted with the garments that it just
felt fresh and different but not sort of trying to
make a statement and out there there were some beautiful
browns and Beija's. As you can tell, I'm a neutral girl.
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I just thought that was so beautiful. And for me,
I always loved bian Caspenda, which is interesting that you
mentioned Krla Biancaspender is her daughter. I think she's my
favorite Australian fancy designer. It's all that sort of classic
tailoring but a bit of structure. There was some beautiful
sort of billowing like almost strapless tops, and then these
amazing satin pants that are structured at the top but
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then kind of billowing at the bottom. And she introduced
swim which I thought was quite cool. It was a
very yeah, it was very hers, so not I wouldn't
say conservative, but very sort of classic. I have so
many of her pieces that I've bought many years ago
and they still look brand new. And so while it's
expensive price point and they you know, they're classic enough
to keep wearing, but like you say, a little bit
(13:28):
structur all different that every time I wear it, people
will be like, where's that from. I'm like Biancaspander and
they got to look for it. I'm like, oh no, it's
like eight years old. Thoughts on fashion Week and size,
inclusivity and diversity, you know, all encompassing. I've saw a
lot of I hate to say older, but I saw
a really nice representation of women that weren't twenty. What
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are your thoughts because you were front stage and backstage, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Know, I feel like they were going to always have
this conversation about like diversity when it comes to you know,
size and race and age and gender and all that
kind of stuff. Obviously my answer is always the same
year after, could.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Be better, could be better, could be better.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
But at the same time, it's less token ISTI now
like we actually know the model's names. You know, those curvier.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Girls, you know, they're not just quickly finding someone on
social media as a ring in.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think I think it's like, yeah, we've seen girls
year after year on that runway, which is really nice
because it's that's what it's all about. It's about making
someone a personality, someone recognizable. It's not just about finding
you know, the yeah, feeling a brief and just recitling.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Because then everyone else is yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So it's it's I feel like, I feel like it
could be better in terms of everything, but the age,
the age I love, and I just think it's just
less shocking now to see like that's personally how I feel.
And that's where I see that gap being bridged, is
where I'm not shocked to see an older woman or
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you know, come down the runway. I'm excited and I
and I don't even notice, and you know, we're all
going to get older, and I'm frankly like pretty sick
of the lack of acknowledgment of I've reposted this thing
that Andy me Dal had like a video and someone
asked her like, oh, now that you're over forty and
you're losing your beauty, Like she talks about this question
that she got and because you know, Andy McDowell was
(15:18):
just like forever the face of was it lorial?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yes, Yes, it's one of those big beauty faces forever.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And then remember when she went into Made and she
had her hair and it was like gray, and yeah,
she looked her age like, you know, she's what is
she in her sixties? I think so she looks incredible,
but like she looks like a six aged.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Beauty is not about age, you know, it's not. I
was quick segue, but I was on mid which is
Muma MIA's podcast for women who are mid thirty, forty
fifty sixties, and I had that question on Instagram too
once and I was like, well, I'm not a banana,
I'm not ham and women aren't something that go off
after a you know, we can be a beautiful vintage
chair or building, and you know, I think that's right,
(15:56):
but it's true because you know, women wear fashion of
all different sizes, of all different ages, and I like
it to you know, a footballer, it's like, well, once
they're thirty, they're out. And it's oftentimes with models it's like, oh,
in your thirties, now, what are you going to do
for your real career after that? And it's like no,
women still work in that industry regardless of their age.
(16:17):
So it's nice to see, but I hope we continue
to see more. Yeah, and it just becomes subconscious before
I ask you just about other Aussie faves. I was
stopped last week. I wish I knew the publication. It
was a video and someone asked me about what I
thought about Australian street style. You know, you go to
Westfield and you see seeds of linen and all the
same colors. You go to fashion Week and it is
(16:39):
so varied and so individual that I'm clocking all these
amazing different things. But when I was asked to sum
up Australian street style, give me your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It depends, like you know, Melbourne is very different to Sydney, Like,
you know, Melbourne is very New York, Sydney's very la
I think the temperature does change the way people dress
a little bit. Yeah, and you know Sydney is a
bit more like cleavage and shearing, a bit more.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like statemental yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Then Melbourn's a bit more covered up and like you know,
like yeah, you know, bookish.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, it's so true what I saw last week. Because
when they asked me that, I was like, well, look,
if I'm just looking at street style images of I
know it's Copenhagen Fashion Week, you can just tell, or
you can tell it's New York. Whereas I said Australian
Fashion Week, for me last week was you probably couldn't
really tell. It felt like not so much London Fashion Week,
but just being out in London. So many different trends, looks,
(17:32):
not trends, just really creative outfits that you can't really
go Okay. Besides rad everyone was wearing red and burgundy.
There wasn't There were a lot of red, so did I.
But what I loved was that there was just such
a huge array of different looks, different trends.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, I think the thing is about like Australia, I
wouldn't say we have like a distinct signature of how
we dress. Really like we're still pretty mismatched. We're very
multicultural society in terms of like I feel like people
go away, find themselves and come back. Like I moved
to London when I was younger, so I feel like
my kind of confidence in dressing is like I don't
(18:10):
mind if I look a little bit like Loud and Larry, because.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm like, that's what I love about you, and I
ask you to come back time and time again, because
I mean, I don't know what the right phrase is,
but people would say you're a curve model, which is
absolutely ridiculous because you're smaller than the standard Australian woman.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
But I love fluctuate.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I don't really fluctually, but you wear what you want.
You look phenomenal. You use confidence from your Instagram and
knowing you in real life and I mostly see you
on Instagram. That is so inspiring and that sounds really
kind of like lip service, but it's not. You're just like,
I feel fucking great I'm wearing this. You know, it's
just very individual and you feel I feel like you
(18:48):
feel really happy and confident what you wear.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, well I felt like last week as well. I
was really dressing how I dress like it was for
the first year, and I feel like I was talking
to Liz Sunshine, who shoots a lot, and she was
wearing the same thing every day, and we talked a
bit about how this year it felt like people weren't
doing as many go home get changed five changes And
the only look that mine that was featured on you know,
(19:10):
Vogue Runway, was I was wearing a sixteen dollar vintage
Nevada Cowboys T shirt and my own jeans. I think
I was wearing some Burberry sonnies, which is nice because
I love what Burbery is doing, especially speaking about the
age thing. But like that was me that I would
wear that any day of the week.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, and that was Indivindually, it was the.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
One that got kind of featured. And I feel like
it's because it speaks to wear how you actually would dress.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
There was a lot of sheer, There was still a
lot of tailoring. What's stuck in your head that you're
excited to wear in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, I think red red, and there was a lot
of red. So good on you, but yeah, no, but
it was almost that beautiful like cherry, kind of cherry red,
loved like a light chilled wine.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
All the good things are red.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I think as well, there was a lot of
things that you could have as a maximalist style, like
but it's almost like sometimes if you go so maximalist,
it almost becomes a neutral.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Totally more street style. What do you think the everyday
person that doesn't go to fashion Week can learn from
what we saw?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, you know what I did this year was I
wore a lot of the same shoes and bag or
you know, like accessory wise like and I think the
thing is is taking away some of that decision fatigue
every morning, right, I think you don't have to style
your whole outfit head to toe and change it up
every day. You know, have the kind of like metallic
(20:33):
bag or like, you know that big statement earring.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I was going to say, you.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Know, the high high boot and wear that all week
with all different looks, Like have that be your statement?
And like, you know, it's like that. It can be
daunting trying to dress like interestingly every day, but if
you kind of commit to I'm going to have this
particular bag, which is a bit loud and out there, yes,
but I'm going to work it in with all these
different looks. I think that that's something where you can
(20:58):
play around with fashion and it's less daunty.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Agreed, And mine was belts. I noticed so many people
had a trench or a blazer or even just a
jumper and just checking on a belt and sinching it
in the waist or whatever. It looks like you were
so effortless and timeless in chic, but maybe you just
grabbed a belt at the last minute.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Damn, honey, how wonld are these percent okay? Bougie and budget.
You don't have to give me exact products, you can brands,
just Aussie themed bougie and budget.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
My budget I'll start with that is Yeah. I did.
I bought a whole bunch of vintage tees this week
and I wore them to a couple of shows and
just like throughout the week, which I loved. There's a
shop on en More Road in a newtown called Route
sixty six.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And fashion Week wasn't far from there. No, I'm gonna
have to go back this week.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and I'm not usually I used to always be
afraid to kind of thrift to be because the shops
are a bit scat, but you know what, they've elevated
so many of that. Like I don't want to sound
like a snob.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
No, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know, it's like I'm having a good shopping extent
and you have.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
To be in the right frame of mind and have
time to sift.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But then but then now I feel like they've sifted
it for you. I feel like they've gotten there together
in this Route sixty six hop love Love Love. Speaking
of belts, you know, cowboy boots, but amazing vintage ship
teas and really good price point, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And although you know you don't know the brand, you're
supporting an aussy business because that store is an Australian
business that's doing what they can for the circular economy
and the environment totally.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And I got like so many shirts for under forty
bucks and I just.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Love I'll quickly do my budget. It's not they didn't
show up fashion week, because it's important to note that
you know, one percent of Astrone in fashion label show
fashion Week. It's incredibly expensive, but a brand I love
that's quite affordable. It's staple the label. And they have
a nitch that just came out. It's called the Ember
Fluffy Nit Jumper and it's just a cream, quite deep
v neck. It's ninety nine dollars. I've been looking for
(22:51):
a cream jumper that doesn't throw yellow because I love
winter whites and it's I don't want it to be
too it's kind of off white.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, you don't want to be Margarini.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, that's the thing. It just it's not right. And
it's got a lovely V. And that's because I just
love checking on a necklace and then feeling like I've
done something so that with jeans, that with white likes
that with my sequence skirt ninety nine dollars. I love
stay for the label and I would love to see
some more affordable Aussie brand showing it fashion Week, because
you know, not everyone has eight hundred dollars for a blazer,
(23:20):
but that's one of my favorite brands. Tell me your bougie.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I bet I can guess my bougie. Well, I mean
I think it's yeah, we could say it's bougie, but
I think it's an investment. Agree, Gagnana everything and the
denim is amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I need to get into some of the dnims. This
was their first year doing dinner.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Their first year and you know what I feel like.
I spoke to Laura May about it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I went to school with Laura May, is like three
or four grades below me and always that beautiful and
kind and smart. Wow, And that's why I'm so happy
to see their brand do so well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, well, she's very clever, and you know, I think
you know she and Hannah has sister have made these
genes which are bury your jeanes. The whole concept is
you cut off the metallic parts, you cut off the
waistband and they're compossible.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know? And that's that's you know. I think the
whole greenwashing in the live sustainable fashion is like people
are making things where they're going to try and tell
you that you can wear it in threeenty thirteen, you know,
and it's like, no, this stuff is going to not
last that.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You're going to want to and your kids aren't going
to want to know.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But where we put it? And so it's like you
can bury these in your garden to put seeds and
then they will compost. It's organic cotton vegetable.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Guys, they really walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think. So I think I think it's just like
in a really like honest way about Like, No, I
don't think she's ever personally said that she's sustainable, no, like,
but you.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Can just tell, I mean from their vibes that they're
not going to just say something for the sake of it.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
No. Well, and you know, you know, fashion is a business.
I guess people are out to make money. It's definitely true.
But like still to that point, like I just think, yeah,
that whole concept of like creating something that then can
get buried in your garden instead of going to land
phill is. Like, I think it's amazing. Wow, I've never
heard of anything like that.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I want to go and bury someone and see what happens.
But I think you have to wait around a long time.
And if I buy some, I'm going to wear the
quickly for me. Another brand that didn't show but has
shown before, Rebecca Velance. I love her stuff. She has
just brought out the hazel shirt. It is expensive for
a shirt, three hundred and forty nine dollars. Pure silk,
the deepest, most delicious, rich chocolate.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, she makes beautiful, luxey vibes.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, very kind of black tie. But then she's got
some sort of suiting. And I just feel like this
rich chocolate silk shirt would make me feel so fancy
and so grown up with jeans, wide legged pants anything.
I just am not good enough at washing silk yet
to let myself invest in that. And I'm not dry
cleaning something like that all the time because cost per drying.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I think choky silk is like it speaks like
I'm a grown up.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, I'm a grown up. Oh, Jess, I love chatting
to you. Let's not wait for fashion week next year.
I'm gonna have you back, but thank you for joining me.
I hope you can rest your voice after a very
busy week last.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And thank You'll be having a vitamental after this.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear, and don't
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This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production
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