June 3, 2025 • 24 mins
On this weeks episode, Leigh Campbell quizzes Mamamia's head of content (and secret style genius) Eliza on how she nails that "did-she-just-step-off-a-Copenhagen-runway?" look. This former Vogue Scandinavia editor treats her morning wardrobe session like meditation to avoid all the chaos.
Her style secrets? Scandinavian-inspired layering, tailoring of budget finds, and those game-changing bodysuits that work with everything from weekend shorts to boardroom suits. Forget trend-chasing as we find the perfect balance between high-end items and your go to Uniqlo or Kmart shirt.
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EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Eliza's Budget: Kmart Long Sleeve Oxford Shirt in White
Leigh's Budget: Billini Hazel Handle Bag
Eliza's Boujee: Nagnata’s RYDELL SHORT 3.0 in Honeydew, Carla Denim Jean
Leigh's Boujee: Motto Navy Faux Leather Pocket Pant Motto
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Guest: Eliza Sorman Nilsson
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is
recorded on whoever said orange is a new pink with
seriously disturbed laurels for spring groundbreaking? Oh my god, you
have to do it. You live for fashion. Hello, and
(00:32):
welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that solves fashion
problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, and
every week I talk to an expert who helps us
work out how to get more out of the clothes
we already own and tells us exactly what is and
what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I'm joined
by someone who's usually behind the scenes, but I've admired
(00:53):
her career and style for years. Her name is Eliza
Soorman Nilsen. She's kind of my boss. She's currently the
head of content here at Mamma Mia, but her fashion
credentials stretch far beyond our office walls. With over fifteen
years in the industry, Eliza's CV is pretty impressive. She's
worked at influential style publications both here in Australia and Scandinavia.
(01:18):
She was the digital editor at Vogue Scandinavia, you know,
no Biggie and before that she was at Australia's Shop
You Drop magazine, which I also worked out Cleo and
Madison Magazine. Now, the reason I'm excited and I forced
her onto the podcast is is because I think she
is the definition of personal style. She always looks great,
She looks like she's thrown it together and you wouldn't
(01:41):
think it works. She's not a huge trend follower from
what I can see, but she always looks very stylish,
and to me, that's personal style. So I'm going to
pick her brain all about her unique global perspective on
everything from micro trends to sustainable fashion and where she
thinks the fashion media landscape is going next. Eliza, welcome
to the show. Thank you for having me. You're kind
(02:01):
of my boss. Yeah, and you're very behind the scenes, yes,
which is where I normally like to be. But you're
a very fashion and star. I shit. We'll get into
in a moment, but before we do, I always ask
first time guests the same two questions. So firstly, can
you describe your style in three words? And what are they?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I actually hate this question because you just sound very
up yourself. But I think I would say maybe like
non ego as one word, playing that place in that
I don't really care that much about brands. I just
like a look, and I'm happy to play with high
end loss.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's why you're on the topic that we're about to
talk about, because that's exactly what you do. Yeah, what else?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I think I would also say classic.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But not Chanelle Ballet flat classic, You're more like with
a bit of a twist. Yeah, And then my third
word would be potentially daring love it, which just feels
a bit but that'sposition married the classic and the daring
opposites attract and that's how you get your unique style. Yeah,
that's nice, thank you. Most people wear a small portion
(03:10):
of their wardrobe a lot, so ten percent of their
wardrobe ninety percent of the time is the rough step.
So what's in your ten percent that you reach four
more than the other stuff?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah? So I think this is really interesting because I
actually do think I probably wear about thirty percent of
my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You wear a lot. Well, not that I've been to
your wardrobe, but I feel like you don't just wear
things once, but I see you mixing and matching items
in different ways, So I think you must wear more
than ten percent. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I think it's also because our workplace. You can really
express yourself here, and I will have lots of client meetings.
So don't really ever want to wear the same thing
all the time as in the whole same outfit exactly exactly.
So I would say, if it's weekends, oversized tea with
little kind of rugby or boxer shorts with socks and
(03:55):
like sambos, sambos kind of socks, like slightly long. Okay,
you're cool, you can see them. Always have a chunky
gold necklace, Always have chunky gold hoops. Always wear bodysuits
like me. I'm not Beyonce like marching around in Aliatard,
but I love a bodysuit, like as a foundation. I'm
(04:18):
wearing one right now. What I love about a bodysuit,
I think everyone should own them. I find them very
comfortable to wear. But they just give you such a
good line. I think it elevates looks.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And then you don't have to really worry about the
tucking in because it's tucked in under your.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Bea and it's it's tucked in nicely. Yes, So I
often wear body suits. I'll have quite a few, so
then you can wear them with jeans, you can wear
them with like I'm wearing a suit today. I honestly
believe they really elevate you look. Skims are great because
they just also fit your body. They're so comfortable and
k might also have a really good.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Range of bodies them with David Jones if you want
to go try it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, So anyway, I love skims by suits, but also
like I will wear suits and lots of jeans and
lots of blazers.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, the reason you're here is kind of to talk
about how you do mix it up. So you've had
many past lives career wise, they're all kind of related
in a way. Editor at Vote Scandinavia, no big deal.
Before that, you're in magazines like Madison and Shopped You Drop.
We were both at Shopped You Drop their different times,
worked in the same building. And now you're head of
content and MoMA Maya like massive. So with all of that,
(05:23):
you obviously have a passion which is women and telling
stories and what content they want to know about. Why
does that interest you? And as it always interests you?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, I think I always loved telling stories like I
would sit down my sisters and my brothers and I
would tell them stories. I'd also style them. Like from
a very young age, it was always about storytelling and
dress ups. But I think I started off as a
sub editor at Madison Magazine. So my first job was
(05:51):
writing the copy for all the fashion pages. So that
you explain what a sub editor does for those that
don't know, because now I know. So the sub editor
used to whilst they still do, they still exist. But
a sub editor would read all of the stories, make
sure the grammar was all correct, make sure it was
written well, would edit copy.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We have to take out, like if there's a bird out,
it's too big and it's got to fit on a page.
I used to fight with my subs all the time,
and they're like, you're waffling on this is that red pen.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I was the red pen, and we'd come up with headlines,
we come up with captions. But what I loved about
the job was I would work really closely with the
fashion team and a lot of the stylists. They're not
necessarily trained writers, so I get to write all their pages,
so I would get to write about trends. I worked
with some of the best fashion stylists in Australia, and
(06:42):
so I would sit with them. They would say, this
is what's happening on the runway, this is a trend.
Now you go right about it to like fill the
beautiful pages. So that's where I started really learning about fashion,
because I would sit with those really good editors and
they would then teach me how to shop, how to
shop the runways, what trends to buy, what trends not
to buy, you know, ones that would stay around, and
(07:04):
so I just I loved that. But I also just
love that women are so multifaceted, Like fashion is also
such an important part of culture. It's such an important
part of history, and what you wear really really can
like send messages. I feel like at Taylor Swift, there's
Easter eggs in her clothes. You look at like Malania Trump,
what she wears like literally what she says on her
(07:26):
jacket exactly. So I think that tie with fashion and
culture has always really interested me and it's really powerful.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It is, and I think we don't judge a book
by its cover, but what you wear does present you
to the world in a certain way, and that's not
about spending a lot of money or you know, having
to have a particular style. I love that everyone's unique,
and that's why I wanted to have you here because
I think, whether you meant it or not, you've really
nailed personal style. When I think of you, you have
a personal style that's not like anyone else I know,
(07:55):
but not in a weird, wacky art teacher way or
like you could be like you know, you had just
have the most unique personal style. In your career that
we just discussed, You've witnessed the evolution of fashion and
content from print we were both at magazines, to digital
and then social media. Wow, we've been through a lot.
So how has this transformation changed what women wear? Do
(08:17):
you think and what you wear personally?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I do really think you've seen through the years fashion's
gone from really aspirational too bout personal style. I think,
you know, back in the day you just did have
the magazines, but the Internet and especially TikTok, and I
think YouTube as well now and Instagram and Instagram of course,
but I'm thinking more video, like you know, the led platforms.
(08:42):
Anyone can be a fashion editor now anyone can put
out their own style. And it's also what I think
has happened is now you can see people styling brands
that you don't necessarily associate with fashion, you know, the
high street, but even just like more budget brands, and
you can see people doing amazing things. So it's become
(09:03):
a lot more accessible. I think fashion has become a
lot more accessible. It's kind of lost that polish and
it's more about the individual rather than this is the trend,
we all must follow that now.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, it's so true, and I think also yeah, I
mean social media is a double edged sword in terms
of sort of consumerism and thinking everyone's got heaps of
stuff and you don't. But what I love about it
is you can discover new brands or underground brands or
small brands, or you can get ideas of how to
put things together. And that's how you wear more of
your wardrobe than the ten percent, which I feel like
you absolutely nail. Where does your style inspoke come from?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'm on the internet a lot, it's where I work,
but also really inspired by the people around me as well.
I love people watching. I loved street style, like street
style back in the day when it first started, like
the materialists.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oh my god, remember that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, like style Hunter, I loved Street Style life. That
was my thing. I just could scroll for hours. I
also get really inspired by newsletters. I sign up to
a lot of brand's newsletters.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
If there's a brand I like, I will sign up
to the newsletters straight away. And I just love going
through my inbo I find it's so relaxing and you're
just like, that's then you outfit. Okay, so that's kind
of the look that they're going for this season. Oh,
it's a little bit more laid back and effortless, and
so you kind of know what everyone's doing that season,
and then you can kind of start seeing it in
street style and understand the pieces. And you can see also,
(10:26):
like you know, a trend if one brand's.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Doing this skirt. Oh that skirts in every brand. Okay,
so that's the skirt of the season. You kind of
follow the story. Yeah, And I love the newsletter because
it just comes to me. I saved my adms my
newsletters for Sunday mornings, so you know, back in the day,
I used to go get the Sunday paper or read
it a cafe, and now I read my favorite newsletters
in my inbox on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It's so relaxing and fun.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Interestingly, over this career and over your life, you've lived
in Sweden. Yeah, and then you kind of recently came
back to Australia what two years ago now, yeah, nearly
two year two years? So what did you take from
Scandinavian style because I feel like I don't know. Well,
you tell me how does it differ or how is
it similar to Australian women and their style.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, so Scandinavians are a lot dressed up then yeah,
I think Australians are a lot more easy going and
laid back. It's more active wear in Australia. Yes, And
in Sweden I would wear my tights and get looks
you may have the cultures do not wear active wear
unless you're going to the gym. Unless you're going to
the gym, and even then you're wearing your jeans and
(11:30):
you're changing at the gym and you're changing back into
your jeans. I was very like too interest when I
would wear my active wear and then my friends would
come and visit and I'm like, do you not wear
your active where you're embarrassing? But it was like clean
lines tailoring. They mastered that art of that oversize, just
that like hair oversize for everything. So the shirts, the tailoring,
(11:53):
and I think when you look at I know you
talk about like Copenhagen style a lot like the street style,
and what comes out of the fashion weeks is really colorful,
but the everyday person it is more your blacks and
your mutuels, a bit more toned down, a bit more
toned down. They are so good at layering. So he's
at the weather because yeah, exactly because of the weather.
(12:14):
But like wearing a trench coat, it's so considered, like
in Australia, there's actually no need to wear a trench no.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, but all you've got undred is a tea.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But they're probably they've got a great near but they
know how to use the right fibers to layer so
that you're not bulky. What they wear, it's so intentional
and effortless. That's a lot lots of tailoring. And I
feel like you brought that home with you because you
do that very well. Yeah. I love like I definitely
would never have worn a suit before I went to Sweden,
(12:43):
and now I like, oh I love a suit.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm sure you've gathered some information and favorites from over there.
So can you tell us a bit about your favorite
scandy brands or designers.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, so obviously love Acne.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I thought Acne was American.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
No, yeah, they're Swedish, very very Swedish. So Acne is
your g jans that really cool street vibes. But one
of the creators of Acne has also started Eighties, which
is great. Look it up. It's e y t Ys.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Please hold I google everything in these shows. Yes, yt
Ys really cool. The website is actually down at the moment,
which is sad, but you can see their stuff on
you and you can get it on far fettion ss sense.
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, they do really cool jeans, really cool boots, really cool.
I love Rugby jersey. I was wearing one yesterday. They
did cool Rugby jerseys, cool bomber jackets, like just that
street style. Oh is it amazing? I didn't even know that.
Love Stand Studios, lovest Stand Stand Studio Studio, S T, A,
(13:55):
N D and studios. They do leather, really really good leather,
so like great leather skirts, great leather jackets.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So it's an investment price point.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, investment price point incredible out of web. So I
have some really good fake for coats, but it's so funny.
I wear them to the office and everyone's like, oh,
there's Miranda Priestley.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, and you're like, excuse me, I've got individual style.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I'm from Scandinavia. Yeah, so really incredible obviously, and Nina
being obviously Ganny. It's so fun. Ganny is also really
good to buy secondhand because it lasts. Look up Jade Cropper.
That's the brand that all the cool girls.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Are wearing, the celebrities.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, like the Kardashians. It's also all that kind of
draping high high here, the rounded shoulders, the asymmetrical bunching.
I mean like.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's yes, look a middriff is four hundred and sixty
nine dollars, but it's good to ye yes, safe, yeah,
and sign up to the adms and the newsletters or
just have a look. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I think it's just also seeing the different styles because
then you go and you see, oh, what's the dupe version?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And some of these brands you can get here. I
mean obviously with the internet mostly can get everything. Yeah.
I want to talk about not just those brands, but
sort of globally and in Australia, fashion trends Yep, you've
talked about how you kind of research them. What are
your thoughts on them as a topic. Do you find
they're moving too fast? Do you find we're calling everything
a trend when it's a color.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I think it's moving pretty fast. It is really
hard to keep up, and I just think sometimes it's
just not worth keeping up. But I also think we
label things that's just an item as a trend.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's great that there's a name, but it kind of
makes it feel like then it goes in and out,
when really it's just a lovely red item that didn't
need that lad.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah that's new and fresh or a different take on something. Yes,
So that's why I love knowing what everyone's wearing right now.
But I'll happily tap out.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So you work in the internet, as I say, yeah,
and you're almost always in the office when I get here.
You basically live here. So do you mostly shop online?
Do you shop iral in real life and either or
what are your go to sites or stores? I definitely
always shop online. I'll have my brands that I love
from newsletters. I love a big scroll on Dish. I
(16:14):
just I love seeing what dish is doing. Love the Iconic.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
The Iconic's great for when you have that specific piece
and you want to know different price points, so you
use the filters to be like black black jeans. Also,
I just think the algorithm on the Iconic's grade in
the sense that you find one piece and then you
can see all the different versions of it in different prices.
I always love to invest in swimwear because I just
(16:38):
feel like you show you you're often wearing it, and
I love a body suit, so I can then use it.
So like BONDI, I love their suit. It's like ONNS
of g Am I saying it probably and then Efemera
so like they're my threes e Femera you've had to
call on the show. Yeah, I love a one piece,
so I always invest there. But also I do that
online because it's like I know, I know the brands.
(17:01):
Love going to Vinice. I love it. Yeah, I love it.
I think you've said it before in the podcast. I
find it relaxing. I find it like ill. Yes, it's
such a challenge, it's so enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's generally more affordable, and also then you're saving something
from land film exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I also look out for warehouse sales. Oh, if you
want to build out a classic like quality quality wardrobe,
look out for the warehouse sales. They're actually really worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And thankfully a lot of brands now because you know
people are rural or not always in Sydney or Melbourne,
are doing them online.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Archive sales online.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I really know what I don't want to have to
go on line up or I can't, or it's in Melbourne.
Pop it online, we will buy it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
One thing that I really do with clothes is I
don't actually look that much at sizes. I actually got
a lot of my clothes altered. Do you Yes, No,
it's not so I think it's not. It depends on
if there's something you really like, it's good quality. You know,
(18:03):
if it fits better, you're going to wear it more.
So that ten dollars or that twenty dollars is actually
worth it. That's why I can shop online because I
often will go, okay, I'm going to get a bigger
size and I will get it.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Take tailored. You're quite tall. Do you have problems with pants?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Definitely, pants online is hard. I agree tailoring's worth it. Particularly,
like you say, if you go to a warehouse sale,
it's a good quality brand, and you know, maybe you've
got it seventy percent off. Yes, you might have to
pay a little bit to get it tweaked, but then
it's fits you perfectly and you'll have it forever. One
really good example of this is I bought in a
Marks and Spencer sale this beautiful tweed black dress that
(18:43):
it looks like it's a Chanel dress.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I didn't even look at this size. I got it.
I got it perfectly tailored for me, and now it does.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Look like sh yes, and it probably fits you better
than the way it would have fit if you brought
it in your size, because you've had it made like
perfectly to you. Also, I think on that point as well,
just generally forget the tailoring part, but just I mean,
you've got to look at the size. But if you're
shopping in real life, I always will take in three
different sizes. Yeah, I might want it oversized some brand
I know my size, but then if it's mid rise
(19:12):
or high rise, you know, you just if you look
at something and go, oh, that's not my size, just
think of it as a garment, an item, take a
few to try on, or if there's a good returns
policy online.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I always know the returns policy.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Always know the returns policy, but just yeah, don't let
that dictate or make you feel bad.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You know, I like literally have fifteen different types of
sizes in my wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh yeah, and all brands are so different.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So it's getting chilly now and you live somewhere that
got quite chili yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Minus twenty three degrees chili.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yes, very cold, So talk to me about winter dressing,
what you learn from over there or your vibes for now.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, it's definitely looking at the fabrics. It's getting those
natural fibers so that then they're thinner not bulky, so
that you can layer. But my trick is to stick
to the like one silhouette rule, so like either an
oversized top with a thin slimmer bottle, slimmer bottoms or
the reverse, because otherwise it can and just get quite chunky.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Because I'm not used to going to cold cold. If
I ever travel to cold cold, I look like that
marshmallow and blow up man because I'm just like, must
stay warm. Yeah, okay, so proportions.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Proportions is definitely one thing, and I just also think
everyone should invest in a knitted sleeveless vest.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh what do you mean? You know those like waistcoat style.
I don't have one.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I'm going to show you can do some good wine
because they are perfect to put over a shirt, or
you can just wear it by itself and it's still
warm because it's that knitted.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I've thought of about item. Okay, yeah, so I think
about layering smart not bulky, and really look at the fabric.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's very expensive, all right, my, and on to bougie
and budget okay, kibougie.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think I'm actually going to go with Nagnates ride
ell short. I know that we're going into winter and
they'll be extremely not appropriate, not really inappropriate, but I
love a good little mini short.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay for the gym, No, they're made of wool. Yeah,
have you seenagna I've got a pair of their active
wear shorts, which I love. Yeah, when I'm active and
when it's summer, which hasn't been ether recently.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
It's more lounge wary. Looks really really good with a shirt,
so I would team it with a shirt, a gold chain,
or it looks really good with an oversized tea and
then your socks in your sneakers so it'd be part
of my weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
How much to sixty for a pair for a pair
of woolen undies for a pair of.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Wool and undies. But you said I was allowed to
do bougie.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You are an Ossie brand, good quality, natural fibers approved approved. Okay,
so my bougie isn't that bougie. They are a pair
of pants from an Assie label called Moto Fashion.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I love these.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to recommend the Navy because
at the time of recording, the Burgundy is sold out.
They're called the Navy Faux Leather pocket pants. I have
the wine color.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yes, and I've seen you wear them and they are incredible.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I love them. They're very comfortable, high waisted, fly button
pockets at the front, but not that you put anything
in them. Straight to whiteish. Yeah, I'm not doing the
tight leather or faux leather at the moment, not that
there's anything wrong with that, but they just are so comfortable.
They're not cropped on me. They might be too short
on you, they might be a bit.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I am a bit worried about that for me, but.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
They look so good on honestly, I mean they're one
fifty nine ninety five, so not crazy, but you can
get cheaper. But they're an Aussie brand. The Navy's beautiful,
like imagine the Navy with the gray mark. But I
just love the Burgundy. And they have a really good
size range of eight to twenty. Yeah, that's incredible, so good.
So check them out on line and see if they
do restock the Burgundy. I have message them so fingers crossed.
(23:05):
All right, budget, my friend. So for my budget, I'm
going with a kmart piece. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It is their long sleeve Oxford shirt. It is incredible.
It comes in a few different colors.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
How many people do you think in the office has that?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think it's mandatory, but the quality of it is
so good. It comes in a pink, it comes in
a white.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I wore that and someone said to me it's that
Luova and I was like, no, but it's very similar.
Lo twenty five thirty five.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think it's twenty five, Yeah, twenty five dollars. It
would be go perfectly over the Nagnaita shorts, the wool aunties. Yeah,
perfect over wool ants.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And even though it's cad of a medium weight and
got that kind of Oxford shirt vibe. You could wear
that over swimmers in summer. Yeah, yeah, shorts, leather pants.
I'm obsessed. I love how I'm selling you on your own.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
My budget is a bag from Bellini. It's called the
Hazel Handlebag. Full price at seventy nine ninety five. At
the time of recording, it's forty seven bucks. Wow, that
worst casey is spending eighty dollars. So it's a Mulberry
kind of ready BURGUNDYEP patent.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh that's incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Now can I tell you why I brought that? Because
you have unique cool bags that I always ask you about,
and this felt very ali.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah. I have a Gunny bag that looks very similar.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Okay that Yeah, we had Osmosis. It's just like shiny Patent,
which I find where it's quite well. If it's an
affordable brand, sometimes better than those cheap fake leathers. Bucket bag,
cool buckle like that looks designer.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I love the gold accent and I love how it's
cinched in and it's got little gold feet.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, with gold feats. Maybe that will become the k
maut shirt bag of the office. Yeah, Eliza, I love you.
Thanks for being the best boss. Thanks for always inspiring
me with your style and I hope you come back
and join us again.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Sim Oh, thank you. This was so fun.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Thank you Lee, Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear.
And if you want the newsletter that goes with his
show to land in your inbox, head to the show
notes and click the link. It's free. See you next week.
This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production
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have to do it. You live for fashion. Hello, and
(00:32):
welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that solves fashion
problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, and
every week I talk to an expert who helps us
work out how to get more out of the clothes
we already own and tells us exactly what is and
what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I'm joined
by someone who's usually behind the scenes, but I've admired
(00:53):
her career and style for years. Her name is Eliza
Soorman Nilsen. She's kind of my boss. She's currently the
head of content here at Mamma Mia, but her fashion
credentials stretch far beyond our office walls. With over fifteen
years in the industry, Eliza's CV is pretty impressive. She's
worked at influential style publications both here in Australia and Scandinavia.
(01:18):
She was the digital editor at Vogue Scandinavia, you know,
no Biggie and before that she was at Australia's Shop
You Drop magazine, which I also worked out Cleo and
Madison Magazine. Now, the reason I'm excited and I forced
her onto the podcast is is because I think she
is the definition of personal style. She always looks great,
She looks like she's thrown it together and you wouldn't
(01:41):
think it works. She's not a huge trend follower from
what I can see, but she always looks very stylish,
and to me, that's personal style. So I'm going to
pick her brain all about her unique global perspective on
everything from micro trends to sustainable fashion and where she
thinks the fashion media landscape is going next. Eliza, welcome
to the show. Thank you for having me. You're kind
(02:01):
of my boss. Yeah, and you're very behind the scenes, yes,
which is where I normally like to be. But you're
a very fashion and star. I shit. We'll get into
in a moment, but before we do, I always ask
first time guests the same two questions. So firstly, can
you describe your style in three words? And what are they?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I actually hate this question because you just sound very
up yourself. But I think I would say maybe like
non ego as one word, playing that place in that
I don't really care that much about brands. I just
like a look, and I'm happy to play with high
end loss.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's why you're on the topic that we're about to
talk about, because that's exactly what you do. Yeah, what else?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I think I would also say classic.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But not Chanelle Ballet flat classic, You're more like with
a bit of a twist. Yeah, And then my third
word would be potentially daring love it, which just feels
a bit but that'sposition married the classic and the daring
opposites attract and that's how you get your unique style. Yeah,
that's nice, thank you. Most people wear a small portion
(03:10):
of their wardrobe a lot, so ten percent of their
wardrobe ninety percent of the time is the rough step.
So what's in your ten percent that you reach four
more than the other stuff?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah? So I think this is really interesting because I
actually do think I probably wear about thirty percent of
my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You wear a lot. Well, not that I've been to
your wardrobe, but I feel like you don't just wear
things once, but I see you mixing and matching items
in different ways, So I think you must wear more
than ten percent. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I think it's also because our workplace. You can really
express yourself here, and I will have lots of client meetings.
So don't really ever want to wear the same thing
all the time as in the whole same outfit exactly exactly.
So I would say, if it's weekends, oversized tea with
little kind of rugby or boxer shorts with socks and
(03:55):
like sambos, sambos kind of socks, like slightly long. Okay,
you're cool, you can see them. Always have a chunky
gold necklace, Always have chunky gold hoops. Always wear bodysuits
like me. I'm not Beyonce like marching around in Aliatard,
but I love a bodysuit, like as a foundation. I'm
(04:18):
wearing one right now. What I love about a bodysuit,
I think everyone should own them. I find them very
comfortable to wear. But they just give you such a
good line. I think it elevates looks.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And then you don't have to really worry about the
tucking in because it's tucked in under your.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Bea and it's it's tucked in nicely. Yes, So I
often wear body suits. I'll have quite a few, so
then you can wear them with jeans, you can wear
them with like I'm wearing a suit today. I honestly
believe they really elevate you look. Skims are great because
they just also fit your body. They're so comfortable and
k might also have a really good.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Range of bodies them with David Jones if you want
to go try it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, So anyway, I love skims by suits, but also
like I will wear suits and lots of jeans and
lots of blazers.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, the reason you're here is kind of to talk
about how you do mix it up. So you've had
many past lives career wise, they're all kind of related
in a way. Editor at Vote Scandinavia, no big deal.
Before that, you're in magazines like Madison and Shopped You Drop.
We were both at Shopped You Drop their different times,
worked in the same building. And now you're head of
content and MoMA Maya like massive. So with all of that,
(05:23):
you obviously have a passion which is women and telling
stories and what content they want to know about. Why
does that interest you? And as it always interests you?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, I think I always loved telling stories like I
would sit down my sisters and my brothers and I
would tell them stories. I'd also style them. Like from
a very young age, it was always about storytelling and
dress ups. But I think I started off as a
sub editor at Madison Magazine. So my first job was
(05:51):
writing the copy for all the fashion pages. So that
you explain what a sub editor does for those that
don't know, because now I know. So the sub editor
used to whilst they still do, they still exist. But
a sub editor would read all of the stories, make
sure the grammar was all correct, make sure it was
written well, would edit copy.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We have to take out, like if there's a bird out,
it's too big and it's got to fit on a page.
I used to fight with my subs all the time,
and they're like, you're waffling on this is that red pen.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I was the red pen, and we'd come up with headlines,
we come up with captions. But what I loved about
the job was I would work really closely with the
fashion team and a lot of the stylists. They're not
necessarily trained writers, so I get to write all their pages,
so I would get to write about trends. I worked
with some of the best fashion stylists in Australia, and
(06:42):
so I would sit with them. They would say, this
is what's happening on the runway, this is a trend.
Now you go right about it to like fill the
beautiful pages. So that's where I started really learning about fashion,
because I would sit with those really good editors and
they would then teach me how to shop, how to
shop the runways, what trends to buy, what trends not
to buy, you know, ones that would stay around, and
(07:04):
so I just I loved that. But I also just
love that women are so multifaceted, Like fashion is also
such an important part of culture. It's such an important
part of history, and what you wear really really can
like send messages. I feel like at Taylor Swift, there's
Easter eggs in her clothes. You look at like Malania Trump,
what she wears like literally what she says on her
(07:26):
jacket exactly. So I think that tie with fashion and
culture has always really interested me and it's really powerful.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It is, and I think we don't judge a book
by its cover, but what you wear does present you
to the world in a certain way, and that's not
about spending a lot of money or you know, having
to have a particular style. I love that everyone's unique,
and that's why I wanted to have you here because
I think, whether you meant it or not, you've really
nailed personal style. When I think of you, you have
a personal style that's not like anyone else I know,
(07:55):
but not in a weird, wacky art teacher way or
like you could be like you know, you had just
have the most unique personal style. In your career that
we just discussed, You've witnessed the evolution of fashion and
content from print we were both at magazines, to digital
and then social media. Wow, we've been through a lot.
So how has this transformation changed what women wear? Do
(08:17):
you think and what you wear personally?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I do really think you've seen through the years fashion's
gone from really aspirational too bout personal style. I think,
you know, back in the day you just did have
the magazines, but the Internet and especially TikTok, and I
think YouTube as well now and Instagram and Instagram of course,
but I'm thinking more video, like you know, the led platforms.
(08:42):
Anyone can be a fashion editor now anyone can put
out their own style. And it's also what I think
has happened is now you can see people styling brands
that you don't necessarily associate with fashion, you know, the
high street, but even just like more budget brands, and
you can see people doing amazing things. So it's become
(09:03):
a lot more accessible. I think fashion has become a
lot more accessible. It's kind of lost that polish and
it's more about the individual rather than this is the trend,
we all must follow that now.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, it's so true, and I think also yeah, I
mean social media is a double edged sword in terms
of sort of consumerism and thinking everyone's got heaps of
stuff and you don't. But what I love about it
is you can discover new brands or underground brands or
small brands, or you can get ideas of how to
put things together. And that's how you wear more of
your wardrobe than the ten percent, which I feel like
you absolutely nail. Where does your style inspoke come from?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'm on the internet a lot, it's where I work,
but also really inspired by the people around me as well.
I love people watching. I loved street style, like street
style back in the day when it first started, like
the materialists.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oh my god, remember that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, like style Hunter, I loved Street Style life. That
was my thing. I just could scroll for hours. I
also get really inspired by newsletters. I sign up to
a lot of brand's newsletters.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
If there's a brand I like, I will sign up
to the newsletters straight away. And I just love going
through my inbo I find it's so relaxing and you're
just like, that's then you outfit. Okay, so that's kind
of the look that they're going for this season. Oh,
it's a little bit more laid back and effortless, and
so you kind of know what everyone's doing that season,
and then you can kind of start seeing it in
street style and understand the pieces. And you can see also,
(10:26):
like you know, a trend if one brand's.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Doing this skirt. Oh that skirts in every brand. Okay,
so that's the skirt of the season. You kind of
follow the story. Yeah, And I love the newsletter because
it just comes to me. I saved my adms my
newsletters for Sunday mornings, so you know, back in the day,
I used to go get the Sunday paper or read
it a cafe, and now I read my favorite newsletters
in my inbox on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It's so relaxing and fun.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Interestingly, over this career and over your life, you've lived
in Sweden. Yeah, and then you kind of recently came
back to Australia what two years ago now, yeah, nearly
two year two years? So what did you take from
Scandinavian style because I feel like I don't know. Well,
you tell me how does it differ or how is
it similar to Australian women and their style.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, so Scandinavians are a lot dressed up then yeah,
I think Australians are a lot more easy going and
laid back. It's more active wear in Australia. Yes, And
in Sweden I would wear my tights and get looks
you may have the cultures do not wear active wear
unless you're going to the gym. Unless you're going to
the gym, and even then you're wearing your jeans and
(11:30):
you're changing at the gym and you're changing back into
your jeans. I was very like too interest when I
would wear my active wear and then my friends would
come and visit and I'm like, do you not wear
your active where you're embarrassing? But it was like clean
lines tailoring. They mastered that art of that oversize, just
that like hair oversize for everything. So the shirts, the tailoring,
(11:53):
and I think when you look at I know you
talk about like Copenhagen style a lot like the street style,
and what comes out of the fashion weeks is really colorful,
but the everyday person it is more your blacks and
your mutuels, a bit more toned down, a bit more
toned down. They are so good at layering. So he's
at the weather because yeah, exactly because of the weather.
(12:14):
But like wearing a trench coat, it's so considered, like
in Australia, there's actually no need to wear a trench no.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, but all you've got undred is a tea.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But they're probably they've got a great near but they
know how to use the right fibers to layer so
that you're not bulky. What they wear, it's so intentional
and effortless. That's a lot lots of tailoring. And I
feel like you brought that home with you because you
do that very well. Yeah. I love like I definitely
would never have worn a suit before I went to Sweden,
(12:43):
and now I like, oh I love a suit.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm sure you've gathered some information and favorites from over there.
So can you tell us a bit about your favorite
scandy brands or designers.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, so obviously love Acne.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I thought Acne was American.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
No, yeah, they're Swedish, very very Swedish. So Acne is
your g jans that really cool street vibes. But one
of the creators of Acne has also started Eighties, which
is great. Look it up. It's e y t Ys.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Please hold I google everything in these shows. Yes, yt
Ys really cool. The website is actually down at the moment,
which is sad, but you can see their stuff on
you and you can get it on far fettion ss sense.
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, they do really cool jeans, really cool boots, really cool.
I love Rugby jersey. I was wearing one yesterday. They
did cool Rugby jerseys, cool bomber jackets, like just that
street style. Oh is it amazing? I didn't even know that.
Love Stand Studios, lovest Stand Stand Studio Studio, S T, A,
(13:55):
N D and studios. They do leather, really really good leather,
so like great leather skirts, great leather jackets.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So it's an investment price point.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, investment price point incredible out of web. So I
have some really good fake for coats, but it's so funny.
I wear them to the office and everyone's like, oh,
there's Miranda Priestley.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, and you're like, excuse me, I've got individual style.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I'm from Scandinavia. Yeah, so really incredible obviously, and Nina
being obviously Ganny. It's so fun. Ganny is also really
good to buy secondhand because it lasts. Look up Jade Cropper.
That's the brand that all the cool girls.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Are wearing, the celebrities.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, like the Kardashians. It's also all that kind of
draping high high here, the rounded shoulders, the asymmetrical bunching.
I mean like.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's yes, look a middriff is four hundred and sixty
nine dollars, but it's good to ye yes, safe, yeah,
and sign up to the adms and the newsletters or
just have a look. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I think it's just also seeing the different styles because
then you go and you see, oh, what's the dupe version?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And some of these brands you can get here. I
mean obviously with the internet mostly can get everything. Yeah.
I want to talk about not just those brands, but
sort of globally and in Australia, fashion trends Yep, you've
talked about how you kind of research them. What are
your thoughts on them as a topic. Do you find
they're moving too fast? Do you find we're calling everything
a trend when it's a color.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I think it's moving pretty fast. It is really
hard to keep up, and I just think sometimes it's
just not worth keeping up. But I also think we
label things that's just an item as a trend.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's great that there's a name, but it kind of
makes it feel like then it goes in and out,
when really it's just a lovely red item that didn't
need that lad.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah that's new and fresh or a different take on something. Yes,
So that's why I love knowing what everyone's wearing right now.
But I'll happily tap out.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So you work in the internet, as I say, yeah,
and you're almost always in the office when I get here.
You basically live here. So do you mostly shop online?
Do you shop iral in real life and either or
what are your go to sites or stores? I definitely
always shop online. I'll have my brands that I love
from newsletters. I love a big scroll on Dish. I
(16:14):
just I love seeing what dish is doing. Love the Iconic.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
The Iconic's great for when you have that specific piece
and you want to know different price points, so you
use the filters to be like black black jeans. Also,
I just think the algorithm on the Iconic's grade in
the sense that you find one piece and then you
can see all the different versions of it in different prices.
I always love to invest in swimwear because I just
(16:38):
feel like you show you you're often wearing it, and
I love a body suit, so I can then use it.
So like BONDI, I love their suit. It's like ONNS
of g Am I saying it probably and then Efemera
so like they're my threes e Femera you've had to
call on the show. Yeah, I love a one piece,
so I always invest there. But also I do that
online because it's like I know, I know the brands.
(17:01):
Love going to Vinice. I love it. Yeah, I love it.
I think you've said it before in the podcast. I
find it relaxing. I find it like ill. Yes, it's
such a challenge, it's so enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's generally more affordable, and also then you're saving something
from land film exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I also look out for warehouse sales. Oh, if you
want to build out a classic like quality quality wardrobe,
look out for the warehouse sales. They're actually really worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And thankfully a lot of brands now because you know
people are rural or not always in Sydney or Melbourne,
are doing them online.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Archive sales online.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I really know what I don't want to have to
go on line up or I can't, or it's in Melbourne.
Pop it online, we will buy it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
One thing that I really do with clothes is I
don't actually look that much at sizes. I actually got
a lot of my clothes altered. Do you Yes, No,
it's not so I think it's not. It depends on
if there's something you really like, it's good quality. You know,
(18:03):
if it fits better, you're going to wear it more.
So that ten dollars or that twenty dollars is actually
worth it. That's why I can shop online because I
often will go, okay, I'm going to get a bigger
size and I will get it.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Take tailored. You're quite tall. Do you have problems with pants?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Definitely, pants online is hard. I agree tailoring's worth it. Particularly,
like you say, if you go to a warehouse sale,
it's a good quality brand, and you know, maybe you've
got it seventy percent off. Yes, you might have to
pay a little bit to get it tweaked, but then
it's fits you perfectly and you'll have it forever. One
really good example of this is I bought in a
Marks and Spencer sale this beautiful tweed black dress that
(18:43):
it looks like it's a Chanel dress.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I didn't even look at this size. I got it.
I got it perfectly tailored for me, and now it does.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Look like sh yes, and it probably fits you better
than the way it would have fit if you brought
it in your size, because you've had it made like
perfectly to you. Also, I think on that point as well,
just generally forget the tailoring part, but just I mean,
you've got to look at the size. But if you're
shopping in real life, I always will take in three
different sizes. Yeah, I might want it oversized some brand
I know my size, but then if it's mid rise
(19:12):
or high rise, you know, you just if you look
at something and go, oh, that's not my size, just
think of it as a garment, an item, take a
few to try on, or if there's a good returns
policy online.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I always know the returns policy.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Always know the returns policy, but just yeah, don't let
that dictate or make you feel bad.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You know, I like literally have fifteen different types of
sizes in my wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh yeah, and all brands are so different.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So it's getting chilly now and you live somewhere that
got quite chili yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Minus twenty three degrees chili.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yes, very cold, So talk to me about winter dressing,
what you learn from over there or your vibes for now.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, it's definitely looking at the fabrics. It's getting those
natural fibers so that then they're thinner not bulky, so
that you can layer. But my trick is to stick
to the like one silhouette rule, so like either an
oversized top with a thin slimmer bottle, slimmer bottoms or
the reverse, because otherwise it can and just get quite chunky.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Because I'm not used to going to cold cold. If
I ever travel to cold cold, I look like that
marshmallow and blow up man because I'm just like, must
stay warm. Yeah, okay, so proportions.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Proportions is definitely one thing, and I just also think
everyone should invest in a knitted sleeveless vest.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh what do you mean? You know those like waistcoat style.
I don't have one.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I'm going to show you can do some good wine
because they are perfect to put over a shirt, or
you can just wear it by itself and it's still
warm because it's that knitted.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I've thought of about item. Okay, yeah, so I think
about layering smart not bulky, and really look at the fabric.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's very expensive, all right, my, and on to bougie
and budget okay, kibougie.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think I'm actually going to go with Nagnates ride
ell short. I know that we're going into winter and
they'll be extremely not appropriate, not really inappropriate, but I
love a good little mini short.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay for the gym, No, they're made of wool. Yeah,
have you seenagna I've got a pair of their active
wear shorts, which I love. Yeah, when I'm active and
when it's summer, which hasn't been ether recently.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
It's more lounge wary. Looks really really good with a shirt,
so I would team it with a shirt, a gold chain,
or it looks really good with an oversized tea and
then your socks in your sneakers so it'd be part
of my weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
How much to sixty for a pair for a pair
of woolen undies for a pair of.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Wool and undies. But you said I was allowed to
do bougie.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You are an Ossie brand, good quality, natural fibers approved approved. Okay,
so my bougie isn't that bougie. They are a pair
of pants from an Assie label called Moto Fashion.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I love these.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to recommend the Navy because
at the time of recording, the Burgundy is sold out.
They're called the Navy Faux Leather pocket pants. I have
the wine color.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yes, and I've seen you wear them and they are incredible.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I love them. They're very comfortable, high waisted, fly button
pockets at the front, but not that you put anything
in them. Straight to whiteish. Yeah, I'm not doing the
tight leather or faux leather at the moment, not that
there's anything wrong with that, but they just are so comfortable.
They're not cropped on me. They might be too short
on you, they might be a bit.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I am a bit worried about that for me, but.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
They look so good on honestly, I mean they're one
fifty nine ninety five, so not crazy, but you can
get cheaper. But they're an Aussie brand. The Navy's beautiful,
like imagine the Navy with the gray mark. But I
just love the Burgundy. And they have a really good
size range of eight to twenty. Yeah, that's incredible, so good.
So check them out on line and see if they
do restock the Burgundy. I have message them so fingers crossed.
(23:05):
All right, budget, my friend. So for my budget, I'm
going with a kmart piece. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It is their long sleeve Oxford shirt. It is incredible.
It comes in a few different colors.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
How many people do you think in the office has that?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think it's mandatory, but the quality of it is
so good. It comes in a pink, it comes in
a white.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I wore that and someone said to me it's that
Luova and I was like, no, but it's very similar.
Lo twenty five thirty five.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think it's twenty five, Yeah, twenty five dollars. It
would be go perfectly over the Nagnaita shorts, the wool aunties. Yeah,
perfect over wool ants.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And even though it's cad of a medium weight and
got that kind of Oxford shirt vibe. You could wear
that over swimmers in summer. Yeah, yeah, shorts, leather pants.
I'm obsessed. I love how I'm selling you on your own.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
My budget is a bag from Bellini. It's called the
Hazel Handlebag. Full price at seventy nine ninety five. At
the time of recording, it's forty seven bucks. Wow, that
worst casey is spending eighty dollars. So it's a Mulberry
kind of ready BURGUNDYEP patent.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh that's incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Now can I tell you why I brought that? Because
you have unique cool bags that I always ask you about,
and this felt very ali.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah. I have a Gunny bag that looks very similar.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Okay that Yeah, we had Osmosis. It's just like shiny Patent,
which I find where it's quite well. If it's an
affordable brand, sometimes better than those cheap fake leathers. Bucket bag,
cool buckle like that looks designer.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I love the gold accent and I love how it's
cinched in and it's got little gold feet.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, with gold feats. Maybe that will become the k
maut shirt bag of the office. Yeah, Eliza, I love you.
Thanks for being the best boss. Thanks for always inspiring
me with your style and I hope you come back
and join us again.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Sim Oh, thank you. This was so fun.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Thank you Lee, Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear.
And if you want the newsletter that goes with his
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This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production
by Lou Hill
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