May 6, 2025 • 16 mins
In this special episode courtesy of The Spill, the 2025 Met Gala gifted us all a surprise celebrity pregnancy reveal and its time to discuss the backstory. Plus, legendary stylist Glynis Traill-Nash breaks down the best, most surprising and most underwhelming looks from this year's Met Gala. From the significance of the theme, to the hidden meanings behind the most iconic looks and so much more, our most important fashion recap of the year is here.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So much you're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
My name is Laura Brodnick, and I'm the host of
Mamma MIA's daily entertainment podcast, The Spill, dropping into the
Nothing to Wear Feed because today is a very special
event where the world's of fashion and celebrity come together.
It is the twenty twenty five met Gala. So in
celebration of this, we are dropping this episode into your
feed where I am joined by Mamma Mia podcast host
(00:42):
Emily Vernon and fashion writer, commentator and consultant Glynnis Trail
Nash to talk about the most memorable exciting looks from
this year's Met Gala red carpet, along with secret meanings
behind some of the looks, the designers who were used,
the significance of this year's theme, and a few celebrities
who might have missed the mark. So please enjoy this
(01:02):
very special episode.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So today, it's very very exciting because we always hop
on how we're not a fashion podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Except today, speak for yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We are a fashion podcast because we are joined by
fashion writer, commentator and consultant Glennis trail Nash. Glennis was
a fashion editor at The Australian for nine years and
as a regular contributor to Business of Fashion, Marie Claire
Harper's Bizarre in Style and many many more. So we
are very very lucky to have her here today.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And just a quick note before we jump into this segment,
we have posted a carousel on our Instagram page, which
is the Spill Podcast on Instagram, with every look we're
about to discuss in this segment in order, So if
you want the visual effect of what we're talking about,
open Instagram head over to the Spill it'll be clearly
marked the images for this segment and you can follow
along as we chat. Well, thank you so much for
(01:57):
joining us today.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Thanks for having me. It's always nice to visit.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
So first off, i'd love you to explain the theme
and sort of how different people interpreted that, because obviously
that's such a huge part of the Met Gala. In
this year's theme I think was particularlyant to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Absolutely, and it's also worth noting that this is the
first men's war exhibitions and theme that we've had since
two thousand and three. I think and of course this
is a celebration of black men's style and dandyism. So
the actual theme is, well, the exhibition is super fine
tailoring black style, and then the theme for the met
(02:32):
gala itself is tailored for you. So that allows people
then to I guess especially women, you know, to kind
of cater to this theme in whatever way they see appropriate.
But obviously this idea of black dandyism is really interesting culturally,
and it kind of came sort of in the post
emancipation era in the US. It plays into the European
(02:54):
idea of the dandy though, so you know, the beau Brummel,
that kind of thing in the UK. So we're talking
like eighteenth century into nineteenth century, very polished, very fancy.
And so then you've got for Black men minutes. And
it's an interesting thing because you've got a minority group
effective or a disenfranchised group wanting to kind of empower
(03:16):
themselves and it's kind of almost an act of rebellion
and when other people are pushing them down, they're raising
themselves up in an act of defiance.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, that's so interesting because we did feel even just
watching the live streams and the interviews and the photos.
It did feel like I had a bit of a
different energy this year, just because I guess of the
designers that were there and the way people were dressed,
and the way that black fashion and black history was
having its moment, almost fel like it had more of
a joyful kind of presence than previous Matt Galas or
maybe that's just me looking at it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think that's absolutely legitimate. And I also think it's
interesting that when you look at all the guests who
were there, and obviously there was a huge focus on
men's where okay, so that we were expecting the men
to really kind of lift the game. And let's be honest,
in the last five years or so, men's red carpet
fashion has really been on the rise, and I think
it's almost been more interesting than the women's in a
(04:06):
sense because men have moved away from that. You know,
we're on a red cart, but we just have to
be the kind of prop to the women and just
get on, get a tuxedo or on. You know that
they've really kind of leant into it. So I think
there was an expectation also that this is really the
moment to let go. But what I found really interesting
was that a lot of the white men. I think
they decided to step back.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yes, yes, you know, and it wasn't the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It wasn't their moment, and I kind of appreciated that.
I mean, and you know, there were some great looks
from some white guys, but I think this was the
black men's moment to shine.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What I really liked about this year's theme, the whole
tailored for you, is that we saw so many like
interpretations of the classic suit, and I think that was
also a callback to I think there's been so many
memes in the past, especially at the met Gala, of
exactly what you said, like white men coming in just
a normal suit and people going why, like why did
you even And this theme just proved that you can
(04:58):
do it and make it look good exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I love there a like actually, I loved Walter
Goggan's kind of whole yeah, that whole deconstructed skirt situation,
jacket out. Yeah, it was very wild. Oh yeah. But
I mean for me, I've I think Common Domingo has
been one of those men every time, every time, and
so he started in this kind of cape situation and
that wasn't my favorite part of his look, but that
(05:22):
was his homage apparently dondrely On Tally, you know, the
late Vogue fashion editor. And then he revealed this fabulous
kind of black and white, very loud check jacket situation,
which I just thought was amazing. So he was one
of my top picks. But then the women, Yeah, there
was a lot of tailoring, and I loved a lot
of takes on the classic tucks and the black and white,
(05:45):
very crisp kind of look. I thought that was fabulous.
There were quite a few women doing the kind of
tuxedo take over over the trousers with the skirt open
skirt over the trousers, which was nice look. Honestly, my
top pick of the women was I mean, it was Zanaiah.
My god, can she do.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
With the white? I'm sorry, it's more intricate than that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Well it's I mean, that was kind of an homage
to be Anka jag Yes and her wedding outfit when
she married Mick Jagger in the seventies. I mean, with
that hat and the jacket. The younker wore a skirt,
but Zendia just looked so sharp. Oh my god, that
was just pin perfect to me.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Oh, I love that, which is interesting because it's been
like unconfirmed, but everyone kind of knows that she is engaged.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, confirmed, they've confirmed, confirm.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So it's like a bridal look.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I wonder if you're just doing all bridal looks in
the leader.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh my god, that was just and it was one
of the simpler looks, let's be honest, I mean, of
the day. But it was just so sharp.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Oh and An stuck the position from last year where
she was a chair and she did those two very
over the top looks and walked the red carpet twice
the night this year. Just watching her bounce up the
stairs and a tailored white suit, being able to sit
down and move without the constriction of that must have
been lovely for her.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh yeah, So who are your other favorite looks? Is
all I want to hear. I want you go through
the whole lion. Who got it right? For the women?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
For the women, I mean, apart from Zendia, I mean,
I love Gigi hadid actually, And at first glance, I
wasn't quite sure how this kind of played into the theme,
but on further discovery, it was in fact an homage
to an American nineteen forties designer called Zeldawyn Valdez and
a recreation of address worn by Josephine Baker, who was
(07:24):
of course the famous performer, cabaret performer, singer, African American
icon style icon and then she had the forties French
role hair and everything. So I really thought that was
actually quite a well considered look. I mean beautiful anyway,
but I thought, oh, there's a good backstory there, so.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
That to hear the backstory, and as much as all
the beautiful suiting looked lovely on the women just kind
of also nice for like maybe basically it's like me
to have like a little glittery gown in the mix
that you could look at and sort of have that
little extra glitz on the carpet.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What was great also with this is
a lot of women just in kind of tailoring and
do you know what I really what really struck me
is I thought, wow, a lot of women are looking
really comfortable tonight, really comfortable.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
What we said about Zenella, like she just ran and
usually just hear people saying I can't slip sit down.
They all arrive in those sprinter vans. They have to
have a whole group of men carry them up the stairs.
I saw noticle kimmen getting a bit of help up
the stairs only because she had high heels on. But
everyone else is just fun and easy man.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Totally Joey King's green suit with all the kind of
decorative details. I loved that with the check shirt as well,
and there was a lot of pattern, a lot of
texture there. It was fantastic. The one I haven't seen
photographs of, but I saw video of one of my
all time Red Carpet favorites is Jenelle Maney. Likes her
Tom Brown but it was kind of a Trump Lawyer
effect cape suit, so you kind of had this hourglass
(08:48):
silhouette sort of she loves a cape, oh she does.
But it was quite I mean she actually she did
not look like she was very comfortable getting into that car.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I won't lie, no, but she would have been a
cave that the performance totally.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I just think she's extraordinary. I really do her her
idea of performance that she brings to the Red Carpet exactly,
like it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Was there anyone that like completely surprised you with what they.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Brought in a good way or a bad actually you
know what on the men's side of things, Andrew Scott
I loved. I loved. He also looked like he was
just ready for a really good night. I mean, and
that was just like, It's a really relaxed looking kind
of linen suit, pale blue with like an orange kind
of vest and then a mustard shirt and slightly undone tie.
(09:34):
I just thought, Yeah, cool, hot priests too, doesn't yeh oh?
Do you know what I thought was really dull was
Lana del Rey.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I just thought was oh interesting, because I've seen a
lot of people say that she's among their best dress.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, actually think it's more just a vibe of her.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think we just love her a moment and like
in her face obviously, but did you think her look
was a little bit underwhelming?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I thought it was quite underwhelming interesting And also like
Georgina Chapman of course, Harvey Weinstein's ex wife with Adrian Brodie,
she looked so uncomfortable when you saw her walking on
the red carpet with him. It was just like kind
of alarming. And you know, a dress obviously one of
her own dresses, fishtail gown, not exciting, Mindy Kaling, great fun.
(10:16):
I just think I think it was the men's night,
you know, I really doing like that. Yeah. Jeff Goldblum,
Oh my god, he was there to perform, And why
wouldn't you flirt with you? I mean, he's just so
much fun.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Lewis Hamilton actually I thought was great.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, sir, Lewis my favorite.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
That's M's favorite person in the whole world, not just
her favorite celebrity.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Like he's Yeah, the Formula one thing with women has
really turned a corner.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Leaning in every single race, all cameras, like we're not
talking about sport, but before every single race you just
see the like hordes of photographers rush to Lewis because
he always dresses up like it's a runway or the sport. Well,
the rest of them I just wearing their uniform and
he just like, I feel like this night is.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Perfect for him.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, And I said another one of the suiting looks,
I love you, I mum hermum.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh yes, that white and it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Looks like a jumpsuit suit and it's got such a
strong silhouette. She looks fierce and a walking cane of course.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Very dapper, very dapper few canes.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, very much. Leaning into that.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I'll forgetting up those stairs because very defamously, they don't
have rails because it ruins the aesthetic of the look
and the flowers. So you either get a gentleman to
carry you up or you fall down.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We have last year he literally lifted in.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So the cane just a safety thing.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I feel, yeah, And look, I think it's kind of
worth noting for future. There's a lot of people. And
also this Hunter Shaeffer I thought was great. There were
a couple of berets on the on the red carpet
this time. I thought her white beret in the very
stark black and white tailoring was fantastic. Pamela Anderson, look,
I love Pamela Anderson. That look didn't move me. The
(12:00):
very you know, very strict silhouette, very encrusted with beating.
Not my favorite, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
She was getting a lot of clap back for her hair,
which I because I'm like, I feel like the hair
was meant because it was crop was like a very
well used to seeing these kind of very loose, luscious
beachy blonde locks on her and that's been her signature,
and she had it cropped in quite short, and I
really you know how like Lump when you cut your
own fringe to accidentally cut it way too short.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
She had that.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Still it's great, but I just I don't know if
it's all meshing together.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
She's an icon, but that wasn't my favorite look. I mean, look,
Doci was kind of fun with the kind of short suit.
I do like like all the wet people this year,
they've really kind of they really leant into the logo
this year. Like, I mean, Doci has the little rounded
on her face, which was a little bit like, yeah, branding,
(12:50):
is that is that a good look? I don't know
that's a good look.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's a choice, it's a choice.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And then one of the other I can't remember off
the top of my head who it was with the
logo tights. You know, they're really leaning into logo this time.
But yeah, branding people, I'm not I'm not one hundred
percent with personally, and I wasn't mad about Doja Cat.
It was one of them more afformative outfits of this
It was very performative.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm not sure if it was exactly on.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Theme, but I mean there's always like quite a few
people every year who don't completely do their theme. Or
there's just an interpretation that we don't see when we
first look at it. Sometimes I know people get really
angry about that, but sometimes I also think it's just
like a nice little surprise, even though they might get
kicked out of the Metgala. But do you think she
just thought, I'm not doing that, I'm doing my own thing.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, she did, like a little photo shoot before the
met Gala in like this beautiful, like big oversized suit
that I thought would have been a better look on
the carpet.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Actually she changed to go.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
But a lot of slibs doing their own photo shoots
and posting them first because they say, like Kim Kardashian
will say, like they just couldn't control the lighting and
the angles on the red carpets. They do their own first,
like that's how high the snakes are.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Fashions Night of Night. But the Tom Brown effect was
very much apparent this year. I love Tom Brown, and
of course he's got he's got form with the Met
Gala because his partner is Andrew Bolton, who's the head
of the Costume Institute, so that's always a nice tie
and so they have great people. But I loved Alicia
Keys and she does love a kind of beaded wig situation.
(14:21):
So she finished off her that that really solid sort
of red stripe suit off the shoulder with busti a
you know, and then this kind of padded cape like yeah,
I thought it was very bold, and again tapping into
that just kind of unashamed bold tailoring, which is what
this kind of dandy thing is all about, and just
(14:43):
self expression. It's all about that. One of the other
men I loved was edvon Thompson, who's a designer who
really lean into this idea of self expression as well.
I mean, the suit it almost looks like it's not
a velvet. It almost looks like it's like pony skin
or something, just not technically ponies. That's the most But
so it's a red suit, and then he's got this
kind of let's hope it's a faux fur kind of
(15:05):
coat over the top, and then this black leather, very
slouchy bear and a huge, huge, like red high biscuits,
probably like a leather high biscuits. So and a lot
of the dandy stuff. It is that self expression, but
it's also like the use of accessories as well as
the bold colors and checks and that kind of thing,
just basically standing out from the crowd. And I really
thought that his look kind of tapped into so many
(15:27):
elements of that. He was great, great Gretz.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
How does this met gala compare to the rest, Like,
where would you rank it?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I think for interest factor, quite high, Yes, quite high
on the interest factor because of all those reasons we
sort of said earlier, it's and men's wear thing, it's
black men's wear focus and self expression and that kind
of thing. So I think, you know, for once the
women and the white men felt they were kind of
taking slightly a backseat to proceedings, so there was there
(15:57):
were good themes to talk about. I think, so that
I found really interesting. I have enjoyed this one same.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I feel like this is my favorite one.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, it's a favorine a long time, just I guess
for the history and what we've seen the clothes, it's
been so incredible. Well, thank you so much for joining
us today and for giving us all that insights so good.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Thanks for having me
So much you're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
My name is Laura Brodnick, and I'm the host of
Mamma MIA's daily entertainment podcast, The Spill, dropping into the
Nothing to Wear Feed because today is a very special
event where the world's of fashion and celebrity come together.
It is the twenty twenty five met Gala. So in
celebration of this, we are dropping this episode into your
feed where I am joined by Mamma Mia podcast host
(00:42):
Emily Vernon and fashion writer, commentator and consultant Glynnis Trail
Nash to talk about the most memorable exciting looks from
this year's Met Gala red carpet, along with secret meanings
behind some of the looks, the designers who were used,
the significance of this year's theme, and a few celebrities
who might have missed the mark. So please enjoy this
(01:02):
very special episode.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So today, it's very very exciting because we always hop
on how we're not a fashion podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Except today, speak for yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We are a fashion podcast because we are joined by
fashion writer, commentator and consultant Glennis trail Nash. Glennis was
a fashion editor at The Australian for nine years and
as a regular contributor to Business of Fashion, Marie Claire
Harper's Bizarre in Style and many many more. So we
are very very lucky to have her here today.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And just a quick note before we jump into this segment,
we have posted a carousel on our Instagram page, which
is the Spill Podcast on Instagram, with every look we're
about to discuss in this segment in order, So if
you want the visual effect of what we're talking about,
open Instagram head over to the Spill it'll be clearly
marked the images for this segment and you can follow
along as we chat. Well, thank you so much for
(01:57):
joining us today.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Thanks for having me. It's always nice to visit.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
So first off, i'd love you to explain the theme
and sort of how different people interpreted that, because obviously
that's such a huge part of the Met Gala. In
this year's theme I think was particularlyant to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Absolutely, and it's also worth noting that this is the
first men's war exhibitions and theme that we've had since
two thousand and three. I think and of course this
is a celebration of black men's style and dandyism. So
the actual theme is, well, the exhibition is super fine
tailoring black style, and then the theme for the met
(02:32):
gala itself is tailored for you. So that allows people
then to I guess especially women, you know, to kind
of cater to this theme in whatever way they see appropriate.
But obviously this idea of black dandyism is really interesting culturally,
and it kind of came sort of in the post
emancipation era in the US. It plays into the European
(02:54):
idea of the dandy though, so you know, the beau Brummel,
that kind of thing in the UK. So we're talking
like eighteenth century into nineteenth century, very polished, very fancy.
And so then you've got for Black men minutes. And
it's an interesting thing because you've got a minority group
effective or a disenfranchised group wanting to kind of empower
(03:16):
themselves and it's kind of almost an act of rebellion
and when other people are pushing them down, they're raising
themselves up in an act of defiance.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, that's so interesting because we did feel even just
watching the live streams and the interviews and the photos.
It did feel like I had a bit of a
different energy this year, just because I guess of the
designers that were there and the way people were dressed,
and the way that black fashion and black history was
having its moment, almost fel like it had more of
a joyful kind of presence than previous Matt Galas or
maybe that's just me looking at it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think that's absolutely legitimate. And I also think it's
interesting that when you look at all the guests who
were there, and obviously there was a huge focus on
men's where okay, so that we were expecting the men
to really kind of lift the game. And let's be honest,
in the last five years or so, men's red carpet
fashion has really been on the rise, and I think
it's almost been more interesting than the women's in a
(04:06):
sense because men have moved away from that. You know,
we're on a red cart, but we just have to
be the kind of prop to the women and just
get on, get a tuxedo or on. You know that
they've really kind of leant into it. So I think
there was an expectation also that this is really the
moment to let go. But what I found really interesting
was that a lot of the white men. I think
they decided to step back.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yes, yes, you know, and it wasn't the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It wasn't their moment, and I kind of appreciated that.
I mean, and you know, there were some great looks
from some white guys, but I think this was the
black men's moment to shine.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What I really liked about this year's theme, the whole
tailored for you, is that we saw so many like
interpretations of the classic suit, and I think that was
also a callback to I think there's been so many
memes in the past, especially at the met Gala, of
exactly what you said, like white men coming in just
a normal suit and people going why, like why did
you even And this theme just proved that you can
(04:58):
do it and make it look good exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I love there a like actually, I loved Walter
Goggan's kind of whole yeah, that whole deconstructed skirt situation,
jacket out. Yeah, it was very wild. Oh yeah. But
I mean for me, I've I think Common Domingo has
been one of those men every time, every time, and
so he started in this kind of cape situation and
that wasn't my favorite part of his look, but that
(05:22):
was his homage apparently dondrely On Tally, you know, the
late Vogue fashion editor. And then he revealed this fabulous
kind of black and white, very loud check jacket situation,
which I just thought was amazing. So he was one
of my top picks. But then the women, Yeah, there
was a lot of tailoring, and I loved a lot
of takes on the classic tucks and the black and white,
(05:45):
very crisp kind of look. I thought that was fabulous.
There were quite a few women doing the kind of
tuxedo take over over the trousers with the skirt open
skirt over the trousers, which was nice look. Honestly, my
top pick of the women was I mean, it was Zanaiah.
My god, can she do.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
With the white? I'm sorry, it's more intricate than that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Well it's I mean, that was kind of an homage
to be Anka jag Yes and her wedding outfit when
she married Mick Jagger in the seventies. I mean, with
that hat and the jacket. The younker wore a skirt,
but Zendia just looked so sharp. Oh my god, that
was just pin perfect to me.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Oh, I love that, which is interesting because it's been
like unconfirmed, but everyone kind of knows that she is engaged.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, confirmed, they've confirmed, confirm.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So it's like a bridal look.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I wonder if you're just doing all bridal looks in
the leader.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh my god, that was just and it was one
of the simpler looks, let's be honest, I mean, of
the day. But it was just so sharp.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Oh and An stuck the position from last year where
she was a chair and she did those two very
over the top looks and walked the red carpet twice
the night this year. Just watching her bounce up the
stairs and a tailored white suit, being able to sit
down and move without the constriction of that must have
been lovely for her.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh yeah, So who are your other favorite looks? Is
all I want to hear. I want you go through
the whole lion. Who got it right? For the women?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
For the women, I mean, apart from Zendia, I mean,
I love Gigi hadid actually, And at first glance, I
wasn't quite sure how this kind of played into the theme,
but on further discovery, it was in fact an homage
to an American nineteen forties designer called Zeldawyn Valdez and
a recreation of address worn by Josephine Baker, who was
(07:24):
of course the famous performer, cabaret performer, singer, African American
icon style icon and then she had the forties French
role hair and everything. So I really thought that was
actually quite a well considered look. I mean beautiful anyway,
but I thought, oh, there's a good backstory there, so.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
That to hear the backstory, and as much as all
the beautiful suiting looked lovely on the women just kind
of also nice for like maybe basically it's like me
to have like a little glittery gown in the mix
that you could look at and sort of have that
little extra glitz on the carpet.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What was great also with this is
a lot of women just in kind of tailoring and
do you know what I really what really struck me
is I thought, wow, a lot of women are looking
really comfortable tonight, really comfortable.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
What we said about Zenella, like she just ran and
usually just hear people saying I can't slip sit down.
They all arrive in those sprinter vans. They have to
have a whole group of men carry them up the stairs.
I saw noticle kimmen getting a bit of help up
the stairs only because she had high heels on. But
everyone else is just fun and easy man.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Totally Joey King's green suit with all the kind of
decorative details. I loved that with the check shirt as well,
and there was a lot of pattern, a lot of
texture there. It was fantastic. The one I haven't seen
photographs of, but I saw video of one of my
all time Red Carpet favorites is Jenelle Maney. Likes her
Tom Brown but it was kind of a Trump Lawyer
effect cape suit, so you kind of had this hourglass
(08:48):
silhouette sort of she loves a cape, oh she does.
But it was quite I mean she actually she did
not look like she was very comfortable getting into that car.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I won't lie, no, but she would have been a
cave that the performance totally.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I just think she's extraordinary. I really do her her
idea of performance that she brings to the Red Carpet exactly,
like it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Was there anyone that like completely surprised you with what they.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Brought in a good way or a bad actually you
know what on the men's side of things, Andrew Scott
I loved. I loved. He also looked like he was
just ready for a really good night. I mean, and
that was just like, It's a really relaxed looking kind
of linen suit, pale blue with like an orange kind
of vest and then a mustard shirt and slightly undone tie.
(09:34):
I just thought, Yeah, cool, hot priests too, doesn't yeh oh?
Do you know what I thought was really dull was
Lana del Rey.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I just thought was oh interesting, because I've seen a
lot of people say that she's among their best dress.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, actually think it's more just a vibe of her.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think we just love her a moment and like
in her face obviously, but did you think her look
was a little bit underwhelming?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I thought it was quite underwhelming interesting And also like
Georgina Chapman of course, Harvey Weinstein's ex wife with Adrian Brodie,
she looked so uncomfortable when you saw her walking on
the red carpet with him. It was just like kind
of alarming. And you know, a dress obviously one of
her own dresses, fishtail gown, not exciting, Mindy Kaling, great fun.
(10:16):
I just think I think it was the men's night,
you know, I really doing like that. Yeah. Jeff Goldblum,
Oh my god, he was there to perform, And why
wouldn't you flirt with you? I mean, he's just so
much fun.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Lewis Hamilton actually I thought was great.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, sir, Lewis my favorite.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
That's M's favorite person in the whole world, not just
her favorite celebrity.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Like he's Yeah, the Formula one thing with women has
really turned a corner.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Leaning in every single race, all cameras, like we're not
talking about sport, but before every single race you just
see the like hordes of photographers rush to Lewis because
he always dresses up like it's a runway or the sport. Well,
the rest of them I just wearing their uniform and
he just like, I feel like this night is.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Perfect for him.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, And I said another one of the suiting looks,
I love you, I mum hermum.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh yes, that white and it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Looks like a jumpsuit suit and it's got such a
strong silhouette. She looks fierce and a walking cane of course.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Very dapper, very dapper few canes.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, very much. Leaning into that.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I'll forgetting up those stairs because very defamously, they don't
have rails because it ruins the aesthetic of the look
and the flowers. So you either get a gentleman to
carry you up or you fall down.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We have last year he literally lifted in.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So the cane just a safety thing.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I feel, yeah, And look, I think it's kind of
worth noting for future. There's a lot of people. And
also this Hunter Shaeffer I thought was great. There were
a couple of berets on the on the red carpet
this time. I thought her white beret in the very
stark black and white tailoring was fantastic. Pamela Anderson, look,
I love Pamela Anderson. That look didn't move me. The
(12:00):
very you know, very strict silhouette, very encrusted with beating.
Not my favorite, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
She was getting a lot of clap back for her hair,
which I because I'm like, I feel like the hair
was meant because it was crop was like a very
well used to seeing these kind of very loose, luscious
beachy blonde locks on her and that's been her signature,
and she had it cropped in quite short, and I
really you know how like Lump when you cut your
own fringe to accidentally cut it way too short.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
She had that.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Still it's great, but I just I don't know if
it's all meshing together.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
She's an icon, but that wasn't my favorite look. I mean, look,
Doci was kind of fun with the kind of short suit.
I do like like all the wet people this year,
they've really kind of they really leant into the logo
this year. Like, I mean, Doci has the little rounded
on her face, which was a little bit like, yeah, branding,
(12:50):
is that is that a good look? I don't know
that's a good look.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's a choice, it's a choice.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And then one of the other I can't remember off
the top of my head who it was with the
logo tights. You know, they're really leaning into logo this time.
But yeah, branding people, I'm not I'm not one hundred
percent with personally, and I wasn't mad about Doja Cat.
It was one of them more afformative outfits of this
It was very performative.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm not sure if it was exactly on.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Theme, but I mean there's always like quite a few
people every year who don't completely do their theme. Or
there's just an interpretation that we don't see when we
first look at it. Sometimes I know people get really
angry about that, but sometimes I also think it's just
like a nice little surprise, even though they might get
kicked out of the Metgala. But do you think she
just thought, I'm not doing that, I'm doing my own thing.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, she did, like a little photo shoot before the
met Gala in like this beautiful, like big oversized suit
that I thought would have been a better look on
the carpet.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Actually she changed to go.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
But a lot of slibs doing their own photo shoots
and posting them first because they say, like Kim Kardashian
will say, like they just couldn't control the lighting and
the angles on the red carpets. They do their own first,
like that's how high the snakes are.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Fashions Night of Night. But the Tom Brown effect was
very much apparent this year. I love Tom Brown, and
of course he's got he's got form with the Met
Gala because his partner is Andrew Bolton, who's the head
of the Costume Institute, so that's always a nice tie
and so they have great people. But I loved Alicia
Keys and she does love a kind of beaded wig situation.
(14:21):
So she finished off her that that really solid sort
of red stripe suit off the shoulder with busti a
you know, and then this kind of padded cape like yeah,
I thought it was very bold, and again tapping into
that just kind of unashamed bold tailoring, which is what
this kind of dandy thing is all about, and just
(14:43):
self expression. It's all about that. One of the other
men I loved was edvon Thompson, who's a designer who
really lean into this idea of self expression as well.
I mean, the suit it almost looks like it's not
a velvet. It almost looks like it's like pony skin
or something, just not technically ponies. That's the most But
so it's a red suit, and then he's got this
kind of let's hope it's a faux fur kind of
(15:05):
coat over the top, and then this black leather, very
slouchy bear and a huge, huge, like red high biscuits,
probably like a leather high biscuits. So and a lot
of the dandy stuff. It is that self expression, but
it's also like the use of accessories as well as
the bold colors and checks and that kind of thing,
just basically standing out from the crowd. And I really
thought that his look kind of tapped into so many
(15:27):
elements of that. He was great, great Gretz.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
How does this met gala compare to the rest, Like,
where would you rank it?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I think for interest factor, quite high, Yes, quite high
on the interest factor because of all those reasons we
sort of said earlier, it's and men's wear thing, it's
black men's wear focus and self expression and that kind
of thing. So I think, you know, for once the
women and the white men felt they were kind of
taking slightly a backseat to proceedings, so there was there
(15:57):
were good themes to talk about. I think, so that
I found really interesting. I have enjoyed this one same.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I feel like this is my favorite one.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, it's a favorine a long time, just I guess
for the history and what we've seen the clothes, it's
been so incredible. Well, thank you so much for joining
us today and for giving us all that insights so good.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Thanks for having me
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