September 9, 2025 • 30 mins
Spring has officially sprung, but your wardrobe is still stuck in winter mode! This week, Leigh's joined by returning favourite Nicole Bonython-Hines (her fifth appearance - clearly we play favourites!) to tackle the art of seasonal wardrobe rotation. Think it's just for people in movies? Think again!
Nicole's telling us why rotating your wardrobe isn't just about space - it's about actually seeing and wearing what you own. She's sharing her foolproof system for storing everything from delicate knits to structured blazers without the dreaded moth casualties or mould disasters.
EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Leigh's Budget: Warmi 16 Pack Vacuum Storage Bags with Electric Air Pump $39.99
Nicole's Budget: Moth Repellent Lavender Tablets
Leigh's Boujie: Sagitine Florence 8 Box Stand $1040.00
Nicole's Boujie: Max Mara Coats
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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You live for fashion. Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear,
the podcast that solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe.
I'm Lee Campbell, and every week I sit down with
an expert who helps us work out how to get
more out of the clothes we already own and tells
us what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes.
So we're at that kind of weird in between time
of the year where we're done with wearing well I
(00:50):
winter clothes. We want to get excited for summers springs here,
but is it here? And then it's cold and then
it's warm. But generally we don't always have enough wardrobe
space to really see and wear all our clothes. So
do we do a seasonal rotation? I kind of thought
that was what people did in the movies. I sometimes
put a futures and fancy dresses away, but there are
(01:12):
so many benefits to doing a seasonal wardrobe rotation, more
storage for the season you're actually wearing, more space in
your wardrobe to see and store the things you're gonna
wear that season, and also the opportunity to have a
look at what you've got and what you might want
to pass on or resell. So joining me today is
nicoleberneithen Hines. She is one of my favorite guests. She
(01:32):
has been on the show five times, including this, and
she's going to tell us how to rotate our wardrobe,
what to store, and how to stop mold and little
moss eating our things. Nicole master of Everything, my favorite guest.
Welcome back. This is your fifth time on Nothing to Wear,
So that shows that maybe I do play favorites. So
I don't have any more intro questions for people that
(01:54):
have been on five times. But last time you're on,
you're about to finish your reno. You close with somewhere Else.
Your wardrobe wasn't ready. Yeah, where did we land?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Look, we've moved in. We thought we had a lot
more space than we did.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, and what does that mean for your wardrobe?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Half's in storage? Okay, like in a completely different location story.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh not somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
In the house. No. Well, actually there's a rack up
in the roof that has like, you know what we
can talk about later seasonal crossover. Yeah, but I've also got,
you know, the things that I just can't possibly part with. Yeah,
like the archiveal gowns. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, Well you're perfect for this. And I'm so sorry
to hear that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's really annoying. I go, oh, that tweet coat, where
is that? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, right, and just as life goes on, kind of
get more storage. But anyway, you're the perfect person to
talk to. So today we're talking seasonal wardrobe rotation. Do
people really do this? Do you think in your opinion?
I wonder how many people do this and what's the
purpose of doing it? And now I know you do
it because you have to, but to talk to me about.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That, I think most people, I mean, some people are
lucky and they've got enormous cupboards and they can have
everything hanging all the time. But most of us, I think,
are a little limited. And plus we all probably over purchase.
So it really does make sense to have like a
winter and a summer and rotate them. Yes, and then
(03:18):
there's ways around that. I've always done that, even when
I had a much bigger house and much more storage. Yeah,
I've always done it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Wow, So that you can then, you know, less clutter
less mental, and you can focus because you're not going
to really need that tiny summer dress when correct?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Correct? I mean obviously we go on holidays mid season
and that is a bit of a spanner in the works.
But yes, you can work your way around that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah. Okay, So when I think of doing this and
I kind of sem me do it, but as you know,
I'm very unorganized. So whether or not I'm doing it right,
I think jackets away maybe heaving its tine, it'll summer
things out and vice versa. But are we assessing our
whole wardrobe in your opinion? Do we assess our whole
wardrobe twice yearly?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I think we kind of do. There are, obviously in
between things that you'll always come to, like shirts which
are all year round and really skimpy things you won't
the things that you probably they're there in the high
summer but not there in the winter.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I guess it's also based on where you live and
if it gets super.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Cold and they're hot or that's true. Yeah, true, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But do you kind of do most most things. Yeah,
I guess I at least assess them and go sort of.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, you know, for example, in the winter, I
don't need a summer strappy shoe. Yes, shoes is a
good idea because I don't have good shoes. I mean
everything I've just I've got too many things for the
amount of space that I have, So I definitely want.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
To do do it for shoes, that's the most obvious one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Not really, I mean the things that are really obviously like,
you know, winter you're not going to need your serongs
and your bench cover ups and your bikinis and your
tanks and mini shorts or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But I'm very light on shoe storage. So that's just
blowing my mind. Do you or do you suggest that
our listeners use this time to do a whole wardrobe
clean out or is that a different mindset?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's I mean, you could kill two birds with one stone,
but it could be a bit of a different mindset.
I mean, it wouldn't be harmful to when you're packing
away one season and entering into the new one to
kind of assess what you're packing away and so did
I wear that? Actually? Is it worth hanging on to
you know, there are some things that you probably just
didn't even touch this winter. Yeah, it comes to that
(05:26):
period of time you just think, is this really something
I'm going to wear moving forward? If I didn't wear
it this season, is it something I really want to
hang on to next season?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So being a bit more mindful rather than just going coat.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's kind of good
to color a little bit, but it is you know,
the whole cleaning out your wardrobe thing is a different
mindset in theory, but why not tackle it a little
bit at a time.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, not for me. I've got too much stuff, as
you know. But the episode we did together then covered
all things care for your clothes. I still use every
single product you recommended, the washing powder, they're so oh
my gosh. Yes, I got subscriptions on Amazon, so kind
of related to that. Before we choose, you know, I've
(06:08):
chose someone we're putting into storage. Do we laun to things,
do we air things out? Are we getting things dry?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Clean?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Well?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
How do we get them ready for being put away?
So putting knits away, it's imperative. We did discuss this length,
I think last time. Sue's my favorite subject.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You make laundry sexy.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So what do we do with a well knits? You've
absolutely one percent if you've worn it this season, you
absolutely have to wash it. Even if you wore it once,
you still got to wash it. And then you've really
got to concentrate like it might look not dirty, like
you might look at it and go, oh, there's no
you know, spil coffee on.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It or whatever. Yes, I had a T shirt on
underneath you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, the moss will eat the so where it sits
on your skin, like the body oils and sweat and
things like that that you don't even see they're invisible,
the muss will go for that. I learned that, and
especially around the cuffs where it collects a bit of dirt.
I just pulled out one of my really favorite knits
the other day that it's all like eaten around the
edge of the cuff. That explains so much.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Okay, we're going to get into how to actually store
like I mean storage solutions. Silk is that the same
because it's natural like it? Do we have to be
really careful of natural fibers because the little pritters like do.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know what, I've never had a moth eat a
silk thing.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Is that a thing? Has that happened to you?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Who knows? With me? I think it's because I put
it in the wash and just said go with God,
and I hope it comes.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Out, but I don't. I mean, in theory, you should
really wash everything before you store it. Yeah, okay, and
then when you pull things in that's another story we can.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, okay, good. So say we've got some beautiful structured blazers,
which you've told me before you really can't do away.
You've got a dry clean so we've dry cleaned it
and it's ready for storage. We're not allowed to leave
it in that plastic bag, are we?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, so, they say, because it keeps some moisture in.
But I guess it depends what climate you're in.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
If you're in a dry climate, I don't see there's
a problem with that. But if you're in a Queensland
humid then yeah, that could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Get a lot of mold.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, and its global warming. It's hotter everywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I don't like them anyway, they feel funny, and I
don't like the little hangar. I take our own hangers now.
So we also did a fabric deep Dive, which was fascinating.
You had love to down your brain into mine. So
when it comes to our clothes, do we consider what
fabric they're made of when we work out how to
store them? For example, I think I would get in
trouble if I hung a knit.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh you definitely can't hang a knit. They have to
be folded, okay, and they need to be obviously washed,
dried and stored with. You know, the lavender bags. I
prefer the lavender smell to them.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Like the little you know you get them when you
get a new handbag, like there's a moist dribs or
berry type.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Thing or just something you can get. Well, you can
get these little lavender things. I get a friend bring
them back from the UK.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And they're like actual lavender, like almost like what potpauri
used to be in a little bag.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, they're like a tablet that are lavender flavored. But anyway,
they keep the bugs away. Oh wow, that's so clever.
I thought it was just so it smelled nice when
you got there. No, well, they just smell better than
camphor and cedar. I think when you pull them out,
I mean, I just don't want to take any risks
because I can't tell you how many Cashmere casualtieth I've had.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, when you say camper and all that, that's that
kind of I don't want to be ages. But like
old person, you know, thrift store smell? Why does it happen?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Have you ever smelled a camphor tree? No?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But what what is that? Like?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I don't even know what? Okay, so cam for is
a tree. It's actually a noxious weed in Australia. You
see when you meant to pull them out. Oh, I
had one in my garden, so I know a whole
lot about them because it was too big to pull out.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But anyway, so people put in camp for products with
their clothes.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, they camp for balls. So that's mothballs are actually
camphor balls.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh my gosh, you've blown my mind. And that's probably
why we don't see it so much. So it's like
we're like old people's clothes, not like that because it
is a thing done in the past.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well yeah, I mean you still can buy them readily.
They're pretty The standard mothballs are camp for balls.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And obviously camp for is like moss.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Don't like camper No, allegedly, but I've done I've done mothballs.
You tried it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Those moths are really yeah, and those fishy things. Is
that the same?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I think that's the same. But you know, I've never
and I have had so many nits eaten. I've never
seen a discarded like the shell, or I've seen anyone
or a pooh or anything looks like teeny tiny little
silver robots. Right, okay, never seen one, and yet so
many of my things have been eaten. You'd learn the
hard way about the washings.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Because I know you're such a big advocate and a
big lover of mostly natural fabrics. But say we're storing
some polyester rayon, don't get mad at me. More synthetic.
They tend to be more durable. Yes, I don't think
bugs like.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, no, But though, if you store a polyester or
something long term and you haven't cleaned it, that stain
will become something that you can never get rid of.
It kind of goes deeper and darker and yellower.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And I've made that mistake buying thrifted things thinking I
can get that out. But no, no, Okay, So make
sure everything's super.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Clean, yes, I think so.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, talk to me about mold and how much you
know about mold, mold, loved leather and sweet.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, it does. It does. Like the more natural things.
It's really it's tricky to get rid of as well.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Totally. I've gone to the point of just throwing out
one of my most favorite hand bags because it was
literally like it looked like there was a tree. I
stored it up in my wardrobe in its canvas bag,
but there was just no air circulating. Cramped too much.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I think if you've got too much stuff around it around,
you're kind of screwed. Okay, but you know, people say,
keep those little sachets you know of your vitamin bottles. Yeah,
I buy them in bulk off Amazon. Oh you can
buy them in Bold, Yes, because I just recycle mine
out of my well, I do that whatever our house thankfully.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
My wardrobe upstairs, but downstairs the spare room and the
home office are a heritage original, even though I've done
you know, little things, but those if it's raining a
lot like it has been recently in Sydney, those two
wardrobes are really prone to mold.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And not that I.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Really care that much, but I feel a bit sorry
for my husband, but he's had a lot of issues
this winter. So I've bought the big things that you
refeel hanging things, and then I've got lots of little
things for his draws, so they helped. I don't know,
I haven't checked. It's not my clothes, but I guess
you want to check where you're storing things which will
get too soon, because you know, if that's a damp
area and it's a longer period of time. So we
(12:25):
want to be sustainable and we want to minimize landfill.
So we're obviously storing stuff we love and well where later,
So how do we make sure we're doing that? Is
it those vacuum bags? Like is it tubs? How would
you recommend or how do you personally do it?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So personally I sought through. So maybe mid spring, I'll
you know, because there's always that period in the early
spring or early well earlier actually hot, isn't it, yes,
where you sort of you get those throwbacks to winter
and suddenly, all of a sudden, it's ten degrees and
it's a false start. You don't want to put everything.
(13:03):
You don't want to put everything away, but you could
probably start transitioning if you wanted to. If you don't
want to you know you just want to do in
one go, then just wait until mid spring.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I like the idea of doing in stages, like your
big puff.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Really you could do your big things. It's just annoying though.
You might have to reaccess the things, you know, like,
for example, you've got your tubs if that's what you're
going to use, and you keep them in a really
hard to access so do you really want to pull
them down out of the cup it gain? I would
just yeah, maybe not, maybe just do it all in
one go.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But and are you a tub? Are you a vacuum bag?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Everything? So the bulky things, I'll do the vacuum bags,
So puffer jackets, knits, I'll vacuum those. But the one
thing that I've always used, and I really like them
because you can see everything of those you know those
bags that you get more recycling. You those bags you
get pillows and blankets and things when you buy them,
and they're zipper all the way around. Oh my god,
(13:58):
you can see everything in them and they're zippers, so
they're really easy to open and close. Like those vacuum
bags are kind of harder to access.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, I agree, And then you're like, is it worth
it and I've.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Got to pull the vacuum out and over again. I
actually quite like those bags, and I always keep them
whenever I get one, or you know that's big borrow
and steal them off. Friends say, if you don't want
that bag, I haven't throw it out.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Goes. You've've got a zipper on it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I know. They're really good, those bags, and they're thick
clear plastics so you can really see in. Yeah, properly.
I really like those, and I just label them on
the inside.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's what I was going to ask. So do you
write like a little list and put it on the
inside of it?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Pretty much? So it might be you know, tanks, shorts,
swimsuits or whatever. Like I obviously keep all the high
summer things together, all the high winter things. It will
just be knits or you know, lingerie that I'm probably
never gonna wear it, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's just for memories. Is there anything we can't fold? Like,
do we have to hang anything? I guess like gowns, gowns. Yeah,
you probably need to all have that many downs. I
mean it's really hard because you've got to have the
hanging space.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, and that's usually what you're freeing you need to
free up. Yeah, that's exactly right. So you just have
to make a call. Really, I mean if it's a gown,
well maybe you have to put it in a bag
and steem it. Hope when the time comes.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I had an idea when I knew I was going
to talk to you, because we have quite a lot
of luggage, like suitcases and which we kind of layer
them in, but there's some random ones. Do you think
you could use a suitcase as storage? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I actually have well, in my other storage facility, I
hon suitcases, but I've also labeled yes.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Because you know, luggage and suitcases are so annoying to
store anyway, so you may as.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well come two.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Well, actually I tend to use the suitcases I'm never
going to use again because they're just they're easy to stack.
You can put them on top of each other, yeah, clever,
and they're bigger than tubs generally, and easier to haul around. Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You know, if you've got a garage that's you know,
down the back of the yard, or like you say,
you're in another spot, you can get the whole suitcase
and yeah it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
With it's on wheels or whatever. Yeah, I find them
a bit easier. But if it's if it's going to
the top of your cupbage and you're only gonna you know,
you need a ladder to get it down or whatever,
then those tubs are good. But I put those vacuum
bags in those tubs, and I label the tubs so
then you know one tub is high summer and it's
(16:15):
you know, tanks, shorts, yeah, swim whatever, that's clever.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I've got a few of those vacuums. I've got a
lot of them, but I use them sometimes for linen.
I've got them for some hand me downs that my
son hasn't grown into yet. But then they get all
slippery and don't stack nicely, or they pop open, and
then it's do.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
They pop over? Those things when you kind of go
to it and all the ears come into them and
you're like, yeah, what happened. That's why those other.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Zippy bags are kind of Okay, I'm going to put
my vacuum bags into tubs. That feels nice and neater.
It can be a bit more of a jig saw
gener Yeah, it's a bit easier, says me. He's probably
never going to do this. So you mentioned unpredictability of weather.
I always get false start, even though I start wearing
sandals about Now, what are the items that you suggest
that probably most people have. All you have that you
(16:57):
can really kind of keep out forever, like a trench.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, so lightweight, so midweight things are probably all year round.
Get like a trench. I mean T shirts. I don't
ever pack them away. Oh no, I would cry, But
I do pack away long sleeve T shirts when it's someone. Yeah,
I'll never wear those, Yeah, but I'll wear a short
sleeve T shirt all year around. So if people you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Think doing this all in one is overwhelming, there are
benefits to maybe doing it in stages.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, you could do it in stages, but again, it
just depends on where you're going to put those boxes.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, okay, so some of yours are in the roof.
We've all got limited space. What are some commonplaces you've
heard of people putting their off season No, look.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Mostly it's just sort of tops of cupboards. Yeah, you know, parents' cupboards.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yes, we've got one of those lift up bed thingies
like that. Good, but my husband won't let me use
it for clothes because he's got his silly vintage squash
racket collection. But he wants to put on the wall,
but I'll never let him. So I'm like, we're never
using that, not that I'll never let.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Him, but those that sounds like a really bad idea.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, But if you're ever moving and or setting up
home or getting new furniture, I think even from ten
years ago is so much amazing furniture with storage because
obviously living spaces are getting smaller, so try and get
it to for one, if you can even like I
just got a little ottoman it's roughly that size to
sit at my little makeup thing, and that's storage.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Oh wow, I know put my.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Clothes in there. But there's storage in places you don't
know there's storage. Yeah, they're definitely, but think about bacticlative
if you need to access or yeah, if you're up
high in a it's a suitcase. If it falls on you, yeah, yeah,
you can't be guaranteed someone's gonna be around to help
you drag that thing down. Yes, because it's for you
to have that dress for them.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And also I would say because I did, I did
do that once made that mistake of getting a tub
that was too big. Yes, and yeah, once you stack
in those, especially if you use the vacuum bags, those
boxes can become quite heavy.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, I agree. I think like a thirty leader is good.
Can you tell that I've sort of pressure.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
To side.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I learned the hard way because I'm an online orderer
and I was like, those tubs are pretty, and then
they came and they were like big lunch boxes. Oh
oh my god. And then when it looked at other
tubs that I have at home, and they're kind of
they're about that. So because I also do it for
beauty products and things, you know, with my work, but
anything sort of bigger than that, if you're filling it
with heavy things.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You just can't get them DOWNE. Then you kind of
look at it go, yeah, I'm not going to get
that DOWNE agreed.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Or some of them have wheels. Also a good tip
is there are a lot are on marketplace from you know,
businesses that have shut down, you know, because if you
are just for moving or anything, they can be you know,
ten bucks a tub.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, So there's a lot of almost never used ones
on Facebook because I'm buying all the gear and now
I'm asking you, so I have an idea of how
to do this, okay, And if anyone needs some lunchboxes,
I've got heaps. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So we're doing the actual SWITCHERU.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So do you get out the season we're about to
go into dump that all somewhere and then use those
tubs like yes, swap like that. Okay, okay, Aye, that's
overwhelming to me. And I mean, if you've got enough
space that you can tub, right, but generally it has
to be a direct switch because that' you've got limited.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Space sort of. But then, and this is probably something
that I should be doing. I know, sometimes I go, yeah,
I'm going to pull out those long sleeves, but maybe
not those long seas and then I've got some in
some out. Yes, but that's probably a message to me
to go, you're probably never going to wear them. Yeah,
that would be the time to say that's wardrobe clean
out time you go.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Actually, because you could do a bit of a stock
take as you go, Yes, you could.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, it's probably a good idea and I should probably
do that coming to the next season.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yes, because you haven't done your spring yet.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No, oh god, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
In here. It's hard though, because the spring summer, the
first spring drops hit stores in August, and you get
so excited for a new season, and then you don't
want to wear what you've been wearing all winter, but
the weather's like, I'm sorry, I'm not ready yet.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, okay, so ignore what's on in the stores and
just listen to the weather.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
This sounds like a boring and overwhelming process to a
lot of people, me included, But so helpful? Is there
anywhere to make it fun?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You could play some fun music.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know what I've started to do, and I'm doing
any sort of tarting up or whatever. In my wardrobe.
I reach for and look at the things that bring
me joy first, not the stuff that I think, oh,
I don't know if I like you, or I feel
guilty for buying you, or because then you're in a
mindset of like, oh, I don't know what to do
with that. But if you kind of pull out stuff
that brings you joy, so that could maybe for this
be the things you might wear all year round, or
(21:31):
you just want to look out or whatever. I feel
like that starts me in a happier mindset. Then this
is hard and overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Ah no, I think, well, maybe to prevent hard and
overwhelming is just to kind of do one to say
I'm going to tackle yesops, or I'm going to tackle denim.
So I know you wear denim all year round, but
I will never wear denim in high summer. Why because
it's hot. I don't understand how people do denim in
like January.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh my gosh, I I it sounds like you don't
brush your teeth to me. I know you know how
much I love my jeans. I know you how well
I know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So they're the things that denim is one of the
things I put away.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, and I could I probably obviously reach for it less.
And there's certain and cuts and weights of denim that
I definitely would wear winter, but not definitely not summer.
So I couldn't You could even partially do an area.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah you could. I mean it depends on I know,
you've got a lot of denims, so you could clear
a lot of space. It's clean out. Oh, very good.
So what you got forty instead of eighty instead.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Of no, no, no, no, closer to that first one. So
we're doing the switcheroo and we've realized, actually, I'm not
going to wear that. There's some of your long sleeve
tops you know, I often find this with like sometimes
shoes that have hardly been worn. Although that's why I
don't rotate them, and that's why I don't have space
because I'm keeping shoes because they were you know, a
(22:48):
couple of hundred banks.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So say throughout this process, you go, Okay, these things
aren't getting rotated anymore. They're getting rotated out of my life.
What would you do with them?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So selling them is going to be tricky because I'm
let's just say we're mid spring and we're putting away
our winter things. You're not going to sell a high
winter thing in.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, maybe when you're doing the switcheroo you make it
sell maybe and then going into that season. Yes, you
couldn't a diary, you could do that, you know. That's
that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
See I would sort of go, oh, I put it
on eBay and then I just you'll just sit there
and sit there and sit there, and then I'll just
go I'm just going to put it in there.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
You're very realistic, that's Yeah. Maybe if it was in
a separate place or yeah, I think that's a good idea.
If you've got the space and you had a tub
and you could sell it. Yeah, it is a beautiful
quality in it that you haven't worn much or a coat.
It's worth Yeah, it is, and you want to go
back out into the world. But you're right, people aren't
sitting on Facebook, Marketplace or anything right now looking for really,
(23:52):
I mean, not buy someone's old bikini, you.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Know what I mean. Yeah, ya, You've got to think
of other people's mindset.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I don't need any
more tablets. But that's true because oftentimes that's when I
stop the process because I'm like, well, I won't wear it,
but I don't know what to do with it, and
then I just leave. Yeah, okay, so sections put notes
in your diary. That's what my point is. Otherwise, something
notes in diaries is a good idea. Yeah, especially when
a new season comes and hit stores and you get
so excited, but you haven't got out that stuff yet,
(24:20):
and then you can buy things and you get that
out and you're like, oh, yeah, got similar.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, and then when you pull out the old things
that you're rotating in, maybe you can relook at those
and think, can I give these new life?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yes? Yes, I love that. I think I need a
buddy for this, and a lot of people I know
to a buddy system.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It does help because that would be good.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, you and oftentimes even afterwards we do it at mammy.
You're a slopping party, you know, so maybe after everyone's
on their spring clean you could then get your friends
or whatever. I've got really great WhatsApp group with school mum,
so there's ways to make it fun.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, it's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
How old are these twenty five sounds? Okay, boogie and budget,
So we can either do something that we've got out
of rotation a million times, so it's obviously been worth it.
You know, each spring or autumn we go, oh I
love you, I missed you. I can't wait to hear
you again. Or it could be something storage related. So
let's start with your budget. What would your budget be.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, I think it's great to have things that will
protect your things in storage. So the little lavender moth
repellent thing is okay.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And we can't get your exact ones because they're fancy. Well,
she should start a little side hustle. There's lots of
similar ones online.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, there should be someone.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Okay, we'll link some of the show notes I order
some of those. Mine are the backbags because I first
started using them actually for travel, because I like to
shop a lot. But then I realized when I'm away,
depending on where I'm going. But then I realized the
suitcase still weighs a lot, even if you can fit
a lot in it, So now I use them mostly
at home. I get ones from Amazon. The brand's called Warmy,
and you get a sixteen pack vacuum bags, like sixteen bags,
(26:06):
and then you get a little travel yes vacuum because
who has I know on my Instagram, And you can
charge the little well yes on your phone charger or
it's got an international thing whichever country. How good, because
I mean everyone has a vacuum, but what I meant
was mine's like a stick or a robot. Yes, So
that's really good. And then you can buy from warm
(26:27):
because you don't need a lot of those vacuums. You
can then just buy a set of like ten small
bags or it's that's the brand W A R. M. I.
So the pack of sixteen bags and the little electric
vacuum which looks like a little water filter or something.
Thirty three bucks. They're so good?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And is that from Amazon. Yes, I love that. I
know could be doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh all right, bougie, you're the queen of sustainability and
you know quality and wearing things timelesslie, So what's something
you've pulled in and out, you know, once a year
and gone, oh I love you, I'm decided.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
To eat You actually have two really beautiful Max Mara
coats that there's just no way I could ever get
rid of them. My people who've got loads of money
and buy lots of Max Mara coats, I don't know
what they do with the world because they're quite bulky,
Yes they are, but they're just beautiful, beautiful pamelor.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I've actually got a tweed one that's really like it's
got and it's got like a button off quilted lining
so it's super warm. I we used to wear it
when I like shot in New York and Paris and
stuff in January when it was like, wow, Rez, oh my.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
God, I would wear a uniclor so stylish.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And I've got another one that's like a beautiful musty
pink that you can sort of stroke. It's got like
this almost got long hair, oh wow, And it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Does go to show, you know, when we do do
a boogie or you invest in something if you care
for it, Well, well have you had those for ten years?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh? Fifteen?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Amazing? See that's it. It's like stare it, well, love it,
look after it. And it was so worth the money
in the first place.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah. Yeah, they're pretty beautiful, really lucks. I always get
complimented when I wear them.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So my bougie is expensive storage. I don't know if
I've spoken about it on the show before. I've definitely
mentioned the brand. It's an aussy Sydney based business, Sago Tea.
Have you seen their stuff? Okay, well maybe I have
beware of the price. I got it at twenty percent off,
but it was still very expensive. But I'm going to
explain why it's worth it. So they sell individual sort
(28:20):
of shoe boxes, but they're these beautiful curved with a
little leather flappy handle thing, so you can stack them
places I have seen. You can buy the frame, which
is like this beautiful timber frame and you can fit
eight or ten. So the one that I've got the
eight and it probably is about that tall. So it
could be a bedside depending how tally bed is, or
just a little side table that's one thousand and forty
(28:43):
dollars for the side table and the boxes. However, I
got it at twenty percent off. And what I love
about it is because it's literally mostly storage for them
beautiful like I've got a lamp and a candle and
a book and all that jazz on it. But then
each box you don't have to just put I don't
put shoes in them. You can get little inserts that
are fee sunglasses or your wallets or jewelry or for me,
(29:04):
I've got like a lot of those little like wrap
up tote bags that scrunched down to nothing for travel.
I've just got all those bits and bobs that you
don't know what to do with, but a wardrobe essentials. Yeah,
you can put anything in them. But you can buy
the boxes individually if you don't want the whole thing.
I nearly died when I bought it, and now and
everyone that sees it because it's you know, you can
get lie like I can get red boxes. You can
mix and match the colored boxes.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So love that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know, a statement piece and expensive piece, but the
quality is phenomenal. And if you happen to accidentally trash
one of the boxes, like I did like I let
something leak in it. You're not ruining a whole piece
of fenit. Do you just replace the box?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
How good?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I love it? Oh my gosh, I'm just looking at
it now. Yeah, there's lots of different colors. That is
very They're beautiful. They're beautiful. My husband wanted to steal it,
but no. But if you're in the market for very
expensive storage, I oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, it's probably there's probably more expensive stories. Oh trust me,
there absolutely so. That could be a bug.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's it too for one. Nicole, I love you. I
want you to come on over aul my life. You're
so phenomenal. Thank you for joining us, and now we're
all going to golf and sort out our spring cleaning.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah me too.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Thank you so much for joining me for Nothing to Wear.
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You live for fashion. Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear,
the podcast that solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe.
I'm Lee Campbell, and every week I sit down with
an expert who helps us work out how to get
more out of the clothes we already own and tells
us what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes.
So we're at that kind of weird in between time
of the year where we're done with wearing well I
(00:50):
winter clothes. We want to get excited for summers springs here,
but is it here? And then it's cold and then
it's warm. But generally we don't always have enough wardrobe
space to really see and wear all our clothes. So
do we do a seasonal rotation? I kind of thought
that was what people did in the movies. I sometimes
put a futures and fancy dresses away, but there are
(01:12):
so many benefits to doing a seasonal wardrobe rotation, more
storage for the season you're actually wearing, more space in
your wardrobe to see and store the things you're gonna
wear that season, and also the opportunity to have a
look at what you've got and what you might want
to pass on or resell. So joining me today is
nicoleberneithen Hines. She is one of my favorite guests. She
(01:32):
has been on the show five times, including this, and
she's going to tell us how to rotate our wardrobe,
what to store, and how to stop mold and little
moss eating our things. Nicole master of Everything, my favorite guest.
Welcome back. This is your fifth time on Nothing to Wear,
So that shows that maybe I do play favorites. So
I don't have any more intro questions for people that
(01:54):
have been on five times. But last time you're on,
you're about to finish your reno. You close with somewhere Else.
Your wardrobe wasn't ready. Yeah, where did we land?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Look, we've moved in. We thought we had a lot
more space than we did.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, and what does that mean for your wardrobe?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Half's in storage? Okay, like in a completely different location story.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh not somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
In the house. No. Well, actually there's a rack up
in the roof that has like, you know what we
can talk about later seasonal crossover. Yeah, but I've also got,
you know, the things that I just can't possibly part with. Yeah,
like the archiveal gowns. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, Well you're perfect for this. And I'm so sorry
to hear that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's really annoying. I go, oh, that tweet coat, where
is that? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, right, and just as life goes on, kind of
get more storage. But anyway, you're the perfect person to
talk to. So today we're talking seasonal wardrobe rotation. Do
people really do this? Do you think in your opinion?
I wonder how many people do this and what's the
purpose of doing it? And now I know you do
it because you have to, but to talk to me about.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That, I think most people, I mean, some people are
lucky and they've got enormous cupboards and they can have
everything hanging all the time. But most of us, I think,
are a little limited. And plus we all probably over purchase.
So it really does make sense to have like a
winter and a summer and rotate them. Yes, and then
(03:18):
there's ways around that. I've always done that, even when
I had a much bigger house and much more storage. Yeah,
I've always done it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Wow, So that you can then, you know, less clutter
less mental, and you can focus because you're not going
to really need that tiny summer dress when correct?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Correct? I mean obviously we go on holidays mid season
and that is a bit of a spanner in the works.
But yes, you can work your way around that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah. Okay, So when I think of doing this and
I kind of sem me do it, but as you know,
I'm very unorganized. So whether or not I'm doing it right,
I think jackets away maybe heaving its tine, it'll summer
things out and vice versa. But are we assessing our
whole wardrobe in your opinion? Do we assess our whole
wardrobe twice yearly?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I think we kind of do. There are, obviously in
between things that you'll always come to, like shirts which
are all year round and really skimpy things you won't
the things that you probably they're there in the high
summer but not there in the winter.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I guess it's also based on where you live and
if it gets super.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Cold and they're hot or that's true. Yeah, true, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But do you kind of do most most things. Yeah,
I guess I at least assess them and go sort of.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, you know, for example, in the winter, I
don't need a summer strappy shoe. Yes, shoes is a
good idea because I don't have good shoes. I mean
everything I've just I've got too many things for the
amount of space that I have, So I definitely want.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
To do do it for shoes, that's the most obvious one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Not really, I mean the things that are really obviously like,
you know, winter you're not going to need your serongs
and your bench cover ups and your bikinis and your
tanks and mini shorts or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But I'm very light on shoe storage. So that's just
blowing my mind. Do you or do you suggest that
our listeners use this time to do a whole wardrobe
clean out or is that a different mindset?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's I mean, you could kill two birds with one stone,
but it could be a bit of a different mindset.
I mean, it wouldn't be harmful to when you're packing
away one season and entering into the new one to
kind of assess what you're packing away and so did
I wear that? Actually? Is it worth hanging on to
you know, there are some things that you probably just
didn't even touch this winter. Yeah, it comes to that
(05:26):
period of time you just think, is this really something
I'm going to wear moving forward? If I didn't wear
it this season, is it something I really want to
hang on to next season?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So being a bit more mindful rather than just going coat.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's kind of good
to color a little bit, but it is you know,
the whole cleaning out your wardrobe thing is a different
mindset in theory, but why not tackle it a little
bit at a time.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, not for me. I've got too much stuff, as
you know. But the episode we did together then covered
all things care for your clothes. I still use every
single product you recommended, the washing powder, they're so oh
my gosh. Yes, I got subscriptions on Amazon, so kind
of related to that. Before we choose, you know, I've
(06:08):
chose someone we're putting into storage. Do we laun to things,
do we air things out? Are we getting things dry?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Clean?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Well?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
How do we get them ready for being put away?
So putting knits away, it's imperative. We did discuss this length,
I think last time. Sue's my favorite subject.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You make laundry sexy.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So what do we do with a well knits? You've
absolutely one percent if you've worn it this season, you
absolutely have to wash it. Even if you wore it once,
you still got to wash it. And then you've really
got to concentrate like it might look not dirty, like
you might look at it and go, oh, there's no
you know, spil coffee on.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It or whatever. Yes, I had a T shirt on
underneath you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, the moss will eat the so where it sits
on your skin, like the body oils and sweat and
things like that that you don't even see they're invisible,
the muss will go for that. I learned that, and
especially around the cuffs where it collects a bit of dirt.
I just pulled out one of my really favorite knits
the other day that it's all like eaten around the
edge of the cuff. That explains so much.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Okay, we're going to get into how to actually store
like I mean storage solutions. Silk is that the same
because it's natural like it? Do we have to be
really careful of natural fibers because the little pritters like do.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know what, I've never had a moth eat a
silk thing.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Is that a thing? Has that happened to you?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Who knows? With me? I think it's because I put
it in the wash and just said go with God,
and I hope it comes.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Out, but I don't. I mean, in theory, you should
really wash everything before you store it. Yeah, okay, and
then when you pull things in that's another story we can.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, okay, good. So say we've got some beautiful structured blazers,
which you've told me before you really can't do away.
You've got a dry clean so we've dry cleaned it
and it's ready for storage. We're not allowed to leave
it in that plastic bag, are we?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, so, they say, because it keeps some moisture in.
But I guess it depends what climate you're in.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
If you're in a dry climate, I don't see there's
a problem with that. But if you're in a Queensland
humid then yeah, that could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Get a lot of mold.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, and its global warming. It's hotter everywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I don't like them anyway, they feel funny, and I
don't like the little hangar. I take our own hangers now.
So we also did a fabric deep Dive, which was fascinating.
You had love to down your brain into mine. So
when it comes to our clothes, do we consider what
fabric they're made of when we work out how to
store them? For example, I think I would get in
trouble if I hung a knit.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh you definitely can't hang a knit. They have to
be folded, okay, and they need to be obviously washed,
dried and stored with. You know, the lavender bags. I
prefer the lavender smell to them.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Like the little you know you get them when you
get a new handbag, like there's a moist dribs or
berry type.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Thing or just something you can get. Well, you can
get these little lavender things. I get a friend bring
them back from the UK.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And they're like actual lavender, like almost like what potpauri
used to be in a little bag.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, they're like a tablet that are lavender flavored. But anyway,
they keep the bugs away. Oh wow, that's so clever.
I thought it was just so it smelled nice when
you got there. No, well, they just smell better than
camphor and cedar. I think when you pull them out,
I mean, I just don't want to take any risks
because I can't tell you how many Cashmere casualtieth I've had.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, when you say camper and all that, that's that
kind of I don't want to be ages. But like
old person, you know, thrift store smell? Why does it happen?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Have you ever smelled a camphor tree? No?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But what what is that? Like?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I don't even know what? Okay, so cam for is
a tree. It's actually a noxious weed in Australia. You
see when you meant to pull them out. Oh, I
had one in my garden, so I know a whole
lot about them because it was too big to pull out.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But anyway, so people put in camp for products with
their clothes.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, they camp for balls. So that's mothballs are actually
camphor balls.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh my gosh, you've blown my mind. And that's probably
why we don't see it so much. So it's like
we're like old people's clothes, not like that because it
is a thing done in the past.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well yeah, I mean you still can buy them readily.
They're pretty The standard mothballs are camp for balls.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And obviously camp for is like moss.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Don't like camper No, allegedly, but I've done I've done mothballs.
You tried it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Those moths are really yeah, and those fishy things. Is
that the same?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I think that's the same. But you know, I've never
and I have had so many nits eaten. I've never
seen a discarded like the shell, or I've seen anyone
or a pooh or anything looks like teeny tiny little
silver robots. Right, okay, never seen one, and yet so
many of my things have been eaten. You'd learn the
hard way about the washings.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Because I know you're such a big advocate and a
big lover of mostly natural fabrics. But say we're storing
some polyester rayon, don't get mad at me. More synthetic.
They tend to be more durable. Yes, I don't think
bugs like.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, no, But though, if you store a polyester or
something long term and you haven't cleaned it, that stain
will become something that you can never get rid of.
It kind of goes deeper and darker and yellower.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And I've made that mistake buying thrifted things thinking I
can get that out. But no, no, Okay, So make
sure everything's super.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Clean, yes, I think so.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, talk to me about mold and how much you
know about mold, mold, loved leather and sweet.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, it does. It does. Like the more natural things.
It's really it's tricky to get rid of as well.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Totally. I've gone to the point of just throwing out
one of my most favorite hand bags because it was
literally like it looked like there was a tree. I
stored it up in my wardrobe in its canvas bag,
but there was just no air circulating. Cramped too much.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I think if you've got too much stuff around it around,
you're kind of screwed. Okay, but you know, people say,
keep those little sachets you know of your vitamin bottles. Yeah,
I buy them in bulk off Amazon. Oh you can
buy them in Bold, Yes, because I just recycle mine
out of my well, I do that whatever our house thankfully.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
My wardrobe upstairs, but downstairs the spare room and the
home office are a heritage original, even though I've done
you know, little things, but those if it's raining a
lot like it has been recently in Sydney, those two
wardrobes are really prone to mold.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And not that I.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Really care that much, but I feel a bit sorry
for my husband, but he's had a lot of issues
this winter. So I've bought the big things that you
refeel hanging things, and then I've got lots of little
things for his draws, so they helped. I don't know,
I haven't checked. It's not my clothes, but I guess
you want to check where you're storing things which will
get too soon, because you know, if that's a damp
area and it's a longer period of time. So we
(12:25):
want to be sustainable and we want to minimize landfill.
So we're obviously storing stuff we love and well where later,
So how do we make sure we're doing that? Is
it those vacuum bags? Like is it tubs? How would
you recommend or how do you personally do it?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So personally I sought through. So maybe mid spring, I'll
you know, because there's always that period in the early
spring or early well earlier actually hot, isn't it, yes,
where you sort of you get those throwbacks to winter
and suddenly, all of a sudden, it's ten degrees and
it's a false start. You don't want to put everything.
(13:03):
You don't want to put everything away, but you could
probably start transitioning if you wanted to. If you don't
want to you know you just want to do in
one go, then just wait until mid spring.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I like the idea of doing in stages, like your
big puff.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Really you could do your big things. It's just annoying though.
You might have to reaccess the things, you know, like,
for example, you've got your tubs if that's what you're
going to use, and you keep them in a really
hard to access so do you really want to pull
them down out of the cup it gain? I would
just yeah, maybe not, maybe just do it all in
one go.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But and are you a tub? Are you a vacuum bag?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Everything? So the bulky things, I'll do the vacuum bags,
So puffer jackets, knits, I'll vacuum those. But the one
thing that I've always used, and I really like them
because you can see everything of those you know those
bags that you get more recycling. You those bags you
get pillows and blankets and things when you buy them,
and they're zipper all the way around. Oh my god,
(13:58):
you can see everything in them and they're zippers, so
they're really easy to open and close. Like those vacuum
bags are kind of harder to access.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, I agree, And then you're like, is it worth
it and I've.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Got to pull the vacuum out and over again. I
actually quite like those bags, and I always keep them
whenever I get one, or you know that's big borrow
and steal them off. Friends say, if you don't want
that bag, I haven't throw it out.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Goes. You've've got a zipper on it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I know. They're really good, those bags, and they're thick
clear plastics so you can really see in. Yeah, properly.
I really like those, and I just label them on
the inside.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's what I was going to ask. So do you
write like a little list and put it on the
inside of it?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Pretty much? So it might be you know, tanks, shorts,
swimsuits or whatever. Like I obviously keep all the high
summer things together, all the high winter things. It will
just be knits or you know, lingerie that I'm probably
never gonna wear it, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's just for memories. Is there anything we can't fold? Like,
do we have to hang anything? I guess like gowns, gowns. Yeah,
you probably need to all have that many downs. I
mean it's really hard because you've got to have the
hanging space.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, and that's usually what you're freeing you need to
free up. Yeah, that's exactly right. So you just have
to make a call. Really, I mean if it's a gown,
well maybe you have to put it in a bag
and steem it. Hope when the time comes.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I had an idea when I knew I was going
to talk to you, because we have quite a lot
of luggage, like suitcases and which we kind of layer
them in, but there's some random ones. Do you think
you could use a suitcase as storage? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I actually have well, in my other storage facility, I
hon suitcases, but I've also labeled yes.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Because you know, luggage and suitcases are so annoying to
store anyway, so you may as.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well come two.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Well, actually I tend to use the suitcases I'm never
going to use again because they're just they're easy to stack.
You can put them on top of each other, yeah, clever,
and they're bigger than tubs generally, and easier to haul around. Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You know, if you've got a garage that's you know,
down the back of the yard, or like you say,
you're in another spot, you can get the whole suitcase
and yeah it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
With it's on wheels or whatever. Yeah, I find them
a bit easier. But if it's if it's going to
the top of your cupbage and you're only gonna you know,
you need a ladder to get it down or whatever,
then those tubs are good. But I put those vacuum
bags in those tubs, and I label the tubs so
then you know one tub is high summer and it's
(16:15):
you know, tanks, shorts, yeah, swim whatever, that's clever.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I've got a few of those vacuums. I've got a
lot of them, but I use them sometimes for linen.
I've got them for some hand me downs that my
son hasn't grown into yet. But then they get all
slippery and don't stack nicely, or they pop open, and
then it's do.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
They pop over? Those things when you kind of go
to it and all the ears come into them and
you're like, yeah, what happened. That's why those other.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Zippy bags are kind of Okay, I'm going to put
my vacuum bags into tubs. That feels nice and neater.
It can be a bit more of a jig saw
gener Yeah, it's a bit easier, says me. He's probably
never going to do this. So you mentioned unpredictability of weather.
I always get false start, even though I start wearing
sandals about Now, what are the items that you suggest
that probably most people have. All you have that you
(16:57):
can really kind of keep out forever, like a trench.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, so lightweight, so midweight things are probably all year round.
Get like a trench. I mean T shirts. I don't
ever pack them away. Oh no, I would cry, But
I do pack away long sleeve T shirts when it's someone. Yeah,
I'll never wear those, Yeah, but I'll wear a short
sleeve T shirt all year around. So if people you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Think doing this all in one is overwhelming, there are
benefits to maybe doing it in stages.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, you could do it in stages, but again, it
just depends on where you're going to put those boxes.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, okay, so some of yours are in the roof.
We've all got limited space. What are some commonplaces you've
heard of people putting their off season No, look.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Mostly it's just sort of tops of cupboards. Yeah, you know, parents' cupboards.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yes, we've got one of those lift up bed thingies
like that. Good, but my husband won't let me use
it for clothes because he's got his silly vintage squash
racket collection. But he wants to put on the wall,
but I'll never let him. So I'm like, we're never
using that, not that I'll never let.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Him, but those that sounds like a really bad idea.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, But if you're ever moving and or setting up
home or getting new furniture, I think even from ten
years ago is so much amazing furniture with storage because
obviously living spaces are getting smaller, so try and get
it to for one, if you can even like I
just got a little ottoman it's roughly that size to
sit at my little makeup thing, and that's storage.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Oh wow, I know put my.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Clothes in there. But there's storage in places you don't
know there's storage. Yeah, they're definitely, but think about bacticlative
if you need to access or yeah, if you're up
high in a it's a suitcase. If it falls on you, yeah, yeah,
you can't be guaranteed someone's gonna be around to help
you drag that thing down. Yes, because it's for you
to have that dress for them.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And also I would say because I did, I did
do that once made that mistake of getting a tub
that was too big. Yes, and yeah, once you stack
in those, especially if you use the vacuum bags, those
boxes can become quite heavy.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, I agree. I think like a thirty leader is good.
Can you tell that I've sort of pressure.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
To side.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I learned the hard way because I'm an online orderer
and I was like, those tubs are pretty, and then
they came and they were like big lunch boxes. Oh
oh my god. And then when it looked at other
tubs that I have at home, and they're kind of
they're about that. So because I also do it for
beauty products and things, you know, with my work, but
anything sort of bigger than that, if you're filling it
with heavy things.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You just can't get them DOWNE. Then you kind of
look at it go, yeah, I'm not going to get
that DOWNE agreed.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Or some of them have wheels. Also a good tip
is there are a lot are on marketplace from you know,
businesses that have shut down, you know, because if you
are just for moving or anything, they can be you know,
ten bucks a tub.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, So there's a lot of almost never used ones
on Facebook because I'm buying all the gear and now
I'm asking you, so I have an idea of how
to do this, okay, And if anyone needs some lunchboxes,
I've got heaps. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So we're doing the actual SWITCHERU.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So do you get out the season we're about to
go into dump that all somewhere and then use those
tubs like yes, swap like that. Okay, okay, Aye, that's
overwhelming to me. And I mean, if you've got enough
space that you can tub, right, but generally it has
to be a direct switch because that' you've got limited.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Space sort of. But then, and this is probably something
that I should be doing. I know, sometimes I go, yeah,
I'm going to pull out those long sleeves, but maybe
not those long seas and then I've got some in
some out. Yes, but that's probably a message to me
to go, you're probably never going to wear them. Yeah,
that would be the time to say that's wardrobe clean
out time you go.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Actually, because you could do a bit of a stock
take as you go, Yes, you could.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, it's probably a good idea and I should probably
do that coming to the next season.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yes, because you haven't done your spring yet.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No, oh god, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
In here. It's hard though, because the spring summer, the
first spring drops hit stores in August, and you get
so excited for a new season, and then you don't
want to wear what you've been wearing all winter, but
the weather's like, I'm sorry, I'm not ready yet.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, okay, so ignore what's on in the stores and
just listen to the weather.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
This sounds like a boring and overwhelming process to a
lot of people, me included, But so helpful? Is there
anywhere to make it fun?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You could play some fun music.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know what I've started to do, and I'm doing
any sort of tarting up or whatever. In my wardrobe.
I reach for and look at the things that bring
me joy first, not the stuff that I think, oh,
I don't know if I like you, or I feel
guilty for buying you, or because then you're in a
mindset of like, oh, I don't know what to do
with that. But if you kind of pull out stuff
that brings you joy, so that could maybe for this
be the things you might wear all year round, or
(21:31):
you just want to look out or whatever. I feel
like that starts me in a happier mindset. Then this
is hard and overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Ah no, I think, well, maybe to prevent hard and
overwhelming is just to kind of do one to say
I'm going to tackle yesops, or I'm going to tackle denim.
So I know you wear denim all year round, but
I will never wear denim in high summer. Why because
it's hot. I don't understand how people do denim in
like January.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh my gosh, I I it sounds like you don't
brush your teeth to me. I know you know how
much I love my jeans. I know you how well
I know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So they're the things that denim is one of the
things I put away.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, and I could I probably obviously reach for it less.
And there's certain and cuts and weights of denim that
I definitely would wear winter, but not definitely not summer.
So I couldn't You could even partially do an area.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah you could. I mean it depends on I know,
you've got a lot of denims, so you could clear
a lot of space. It's clean out. Oh, very good.
So what you got forty instead of eighty instead.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Of no, no, no, no, closer to that first one. So
we're doing the switcheroo and we've realized, actually, I'm not
going to wear that. There's some of your long sleeve
tops you know, I often find this with like sometimes
shoes that have hardly been worn. Although that's why I
don't rotate them, and that's why I don't have space
because I'm keeping shoes because they were you know, a
(22:48):
couple of hundred banks.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So say throughout this process, you go, Okay, these things
aren't getting rotated anymore. They're getting rotated out of my life.
What would you do with them?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So selling them is going to be tricky because I'm
let's just say we're mid spring and we're putting away
our winter things. You're not going to sell a high
winter thing in.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, maybe when you're doing the switcheroo you make it
sell maybe and then going into that season. Yes, you
couldn't a diary, you could do that, you know. That's
that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
See I would sort of go, oh, I put it
on eBay and then I just you'll just sit there
and sit there and sit there, and then I'll just
go I'm just going to put it in there.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
You're very realistic, that's Yeah. Maybe if it was in
a separate place or yeah, I think that's a good idea.
If you've got the space and you had a tub
and you could sell it. Yeah, it is a beautiful
quality in it that you haven't worn much or a coat.
It's worth Yeah, it is, and you want to go
back out into the world. But you're right, people aren't
sitting on Facebook, Marketplace or anything right now looking for really,
(23:52):
I mean, not buy someone's old bikini, you.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Know what I mean. Yeah, ya, You've got to think
of other people's mindset.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I don't need any
more tablets. But that's true because oftentimes that's when I
stop the process because I'm like, well, I won't wear it,
but I don't know what to do with it, and
then I just leave. Yeah, okay, so sections put notes
in your diary. That's what my point is. Otherwise, something
notes in diaries is a good idea. Yeah, especially when
a new season comes and hit stores and you get
so excited, but you haven't got out that stuff yet,
(24:20):
and then you can buy things and you get that
out and you're like, oh, yeah, got similar.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, and then when you pull out the old things
that you're rotating in, maybe you can relook at those
and think, can I give these new life?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yes? Yes, I love that. I think I need a
buddy for this, and a lot of people I know
to a buddy system.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It does help because that would be good.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, you and oftentimes even afterwards we do it at mammy.
You're a slopping party, you know, so maybe after everyone's
on their spring clean you could then get your friends
or whatever. I've got really great WhatsApp group with school mum,
so there's ways to make it fun.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, it's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
How old are these twenty five sounds? Okay, boogie and budget,
So we can either do something that we've got out
of rotation a million times, so it's obviously been worth it.
You know, each spring or autumn we go, oh I
love you, I missed you. I can't wait to hear
you again. Or it could be something storage related. So
let's start with your budget. What would your budget be.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, I think it's great to have things that will
protect your things in storage. So the little lavender moth
repellent thing is okay.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And we can't get your exact ones because they're fancy. Well,
she should start a little side hustle. There's lots of
similar ones online.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, there should be someone.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Okay, we'll link some of the show notes I order
some of those. Mine are the backbags because I first
started using them actually for travel, because I like to
shop a lot. But then I realized when I'm away,
depending on where I'm going. But then I realized the
suitcase still weighs a lot, even if you can fit
a lot in it, So now I use them mostly
at home. I get ones from Amazon. The brand's called Warmy,
and you get a sixteen pack vacuum bags, like sixteen bags,
(26:06):
and then you get a little travel yes vacuum because
who has I know on my Instagram, And you can
charge the little well yes on your phone charger or
it's got an international thing whichever country. How good, because
I mean everyone has a vacuum, but what I meant
was mine's like a stick or a robot. Yes, So
that's really good. And then you can buy from warm
(26:27):
because you don't need a lot of those vacuums. You
can then just buy a set of like ten small
bags or it's that's the brand W A R. M. I.
So the pack of sixteen bags and the little electric
vacuum which looks like a little water filter or something.
Thirty three bucks. They're so good?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And is that from Amazon. Yes, I love that. I
know could be doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh all right, bougie, you're the queen of sustainability and
you know quality and wearing things timelesslie, So what's something
you've pulled in and out, you know, once a year
and gone, oh I love you, I'm decided.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
To eat You actually have two really beautiful Max Mara
coats that there's just no way I could ever get
rid of them. My people who've got loads of money
and buy lots of Max Mara coats, I don't know
what they do with the world because they're quite bulky,
Yes they are, but they're just beautiful, beautiful pamelor.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I've actually got a tweed one that's really like it's
got and it's got like a button off quilted lining
so it's super warm. I we used to wear it
when I like shot in New York and Paris and
stuff in January when it was like, wow, Rez, oh my.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
God, I would wear a uniclor so stylish.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And I've got another one that's like a beautiful musty
pink that you can sort of stroke. It's got like
this almost got long hair, oh wow, And it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Does go to show, you know, when we do do
a boogie or you invest in something if you care
for it, Well, well have you had those for ten years?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh? Fifteen?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Amazing? See that's it. It's like stare it, well, love it,
look after it. And it was so worth the money
in the first place.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah. Yeah, they're pretty beautiful, really lucks. I always get
complimented when I wear them.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So my bougie is expensive storage. I don't know if
I've spoken about it on the show before. I've definitely
mentioned the brand. It's an aussy Sydney based business, Sago Tea.
Have you seen their stuff? Okay, well maybe I have
beware of the price. I got it at twenty percent off,
but it was still very expensive. But I'm going to
explain why it's worth it. So they sell individual sort
(28:20):
of shoe boxes, but they're these beautiful curved with a
little leather flappy handle thing, so you can stack them
places I have seen. You can buy the frame, which
is like this beautiful timber frame and you can fit
eight or ten. So the one that I've got the
eight and it probably is about that tall. So it
could be a bedside depending how tally bed is, or
just a little side table that's one thousand and forty
(28:43):
dollars for the side table and the boxes. However, I
got it at twenty percent off. And what I love
about it is because it's literally mostly storage for them
beautiful like I've got a lamp and a candle and
a book and all that jazz on it. But then
each box you don't have to just put I don't
put shoes in them. You can get little inserts that
are fee sunglasses or your wallets or jewelry or for me,
(29:04):
I've got like a lot of those little like wrap
up tote bags that scrunched down to nothing for travel.
I've just got all those bits and bobs that you
don't know what to do with, but a wardrobe essentials. Yeah,
you can put anything in them. But you can buy
the boxes individually if you don't want the whole thing.
I nearly died when I bought it, and now and
everyone that sees it because it's you know, you can
get lie like I can get red boxes. You can
mix and match the colored boxes.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So love that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know, a statement piece and expensive piece, but the
quality is phenomenal. And if you happen to accidentally trash
one of the boxes, like I did like I let
something leak in it. You're not ruining a whole piece
of fenit. Do you just replace the box?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
How good?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I love it? Oh my gosh, I'm just looking at
it now. Yeah, there's lots of different colors. That is
very They're beautiful. They're beautiful. My husband wanted to steal it,
but no. But if you're in the market for very
expensive storage, I oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, it's probably there's probably more expensive stories. Oh trust me,
there absolutely so. That could be a bug.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's it too for one. Nicole, I love you. I
want you to come on over aul my life. You're
so phenomenal. Thank you for joining us, and now we're
all going to golf and sort out our spring cleaning.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah me too.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Thank you so much for joining me for Nothing to Wear.
Don't forget on Instagram and YouTube. You can find us
at Nothing to Wear Pod. See you next week.
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