Monday August 18th

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is VOCM Open Line Call seven oh nine two
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, all right and good morning to you. Thank you
so much for tuning in to the program. It's Monday,
August the eighteenth. This is Open Line. I'm your host
Patty Daily, David Williams. He's produced the program. Let's get
the week off to a flying start. That can only
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which is eighty six twenty six. So there we go.
A week one on the kind of games in the books.
We come away with three medals in week one. Cap'n
Bags of course started us off with the silver metal,
follows by Thomas Pelly with the silver round of bronze,
and we'll see what Week two brings. Yesterday's turnaround day

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a couple of hundred volunteers on site of the accommodation site,
and so twenty six hundred athletes leave yesterday twenty five
hundred welcome to yesterday as well. So pretty busy times
of course. Week two some notable sports happening, including baseball,
women's baseball for the first time in Canada Game's history,
and they have got quite the schedule. They kick off
the first game against British Columbia, that's the night of

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the seven thirty. Then they get Quebec, then Ontario, then Alberta.
So no cakewalk for our girls in the baseball competition. Well,
good luck, go get them. Some of the things happening
this week on the sporting side soccer, women's diving, golf, volleyball,
and maybe, just maybe we might be in for a
look at a podium spot in men's softball which begins
this week as well. You want to take it on,

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we can do it. This is a nice little story
and an acknowledgment by one of the Canada Games teams,
in this case New Brunswicks lacrosse team. So you prep
all that time, and you come to the games and
your friends and your family and supporters travel with you,
and long and behul given some of the restrictions with
the wildfires, unable to attend and watch them in the
final throws of the competition. So what did they do

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in recognizing that there's a lot of need out there,
A lot of people are pretty frazzled. They started a
fund raiser for the Lions Club out in Krabnir, who
are of course providing food and first responders. Pardoner me
food and aid to the first responders out in that community.
So that's a nice little touch by the folks who
are the parents of the new Brunswick lacrosse team. Good
for them all right, Also just another couple of fundraising

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opportunities if you're so inclined. We know there's lots of
people out there trying to do their level best. And
when I see the pictures circulating on social media of
the firefighters absolutely black in the face and one hundred
percent exhausted doing everything possible to try to keep us
all safe, it is truly amazing stuff. Even though for
some reason some people are chiming in with some negativity

(02:56):
on that front. Which I don't understand, but this is
an important un raised ignitionive two spearheaded by the Community
Foundation of New Flannel, Labrador, a very real organization. They
were a registered charity. They're doing this in conjunction with
the Community Sector Council of Newfilanta Labrador, MNL Municipalities, Newfland,
Labrador in the United Way and the provincial government. So
they're established two different recovery fronts. One for the North

(03:19):
Shore Fires Recovery Fund of course north Shore CBS dealing
with partner CBN, dealing with the eleventh fire this year.
Folks have been displaced for a long time, coming up
on a couple of weeks. And also the second one
is a twenty twenty five New Flan Labrador Forest Fires
Recovery Front, more intended for long term recovery efforts. If
you're so inclined, you can contribute to it. But if

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you'd like to make immediate relief efforts, of course Canadian
Red Cross and the Salvation Army for your consideration if
you're so inclined. Okay, So there will indeed be another
wildfire update this morning at ten fifteen. I won't get
into too much detail about specific fires because I only
go by what I've been told or what I read
or heard this morning, and in about an hour fifteen

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minutes we'll get an official update from the provincial government,
which of course we will cover live here. A couple
of things we can mention. No, the Beta Spare Highway
thankfully has been reopened for on normal traffic today. Very
good news. Were some escorted one lay traffic over the weekend,
but that's really old. Imagine it comes out of relief.
The fire still rages on, but you can get in

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and out on the Beta Spare Highway, a very good one. Then.
I'm getting a ton of questions about atv US and
hopefully we'll get some clarification again here this morning, because
initially we were told it's a province wide band. I'm
using a ATV enforested areas and people wonder what that
actually includes. But we were also told at that time
that the restriction was only in place for areas that

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were deemed to be at high risk or higher. Then
if you look at the fire risk website here this morning,
this part of the province is low to moderate risk.
So the questions that are coming to me as to
whether or not the ATV ban is in place, say
for instance, in and round of the Northeast Avalon, where
the fire risk has been reduced in certain areas. So

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I don't know is the basic answer there, And hopefully
we get some very specific clarification for folks who are
so inclined. And let's just say this. You know, all
of the risks that we understand can't contribute to a fire,
a wildfire, let's just not do them until we are
out of the woods, so to speak, poor choice awards. Also,
we know that there's been at least three fines levied

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for people breaking the rules, you know, for purposefully starting fires,
whether it be out of Gander Bay, and the young
fellow charged with four counts of arsen here in the
city Saint John's. You know, the threat is not only
of the fifty thousand dollars fine, and if when you
can pay that fine is going to jail, we'll see
what the repercussions actually become here. So obviously the fifty

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thousand dollars is for the vast majority people listening to
this program this morning, is way beyond their means. And
so will we indeed see people who have been given
these fines actually sent to jail. We'll find out, And
of course the promiss has asked the federal government to
expand or to exploit a part of me EI benefits
and to allow for those flexibilities. There's no good reason

(06:08):
for the federal government to not grant that to people
who've been impacted or affected by the wildfires. So if
you have any questions that you'd like to post to me,
then we can try to get them to our reporters.
See if we can't get you some very specific clarifications here.
This morning. Also very good news in that the healthcare
services that were paused in Saint John's, whether it be

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at the Sainclair's or the Jane We're the health sciences,
they have all been the resuming and people will be
contacted for our rescheduled appointment. When they said it was
due to evacuation alerts, what have you, I'm not entirely
sure what that actually meant in so far as staff
being able to get to work to continue to provide
those services that were interrupted. So that's the good news

(06:51):
that they have resumed. It's just one more friendly reminder
because sometimes we wait so long to get an appointment
that when the appointment date and time comes slipped your
mind because it's a busy world, busy life. So if
you have a calendar in your phone or in your home,
and you jot it down as to when you're supposed
to go, and if you can't make it all of
a sudden, whether or not your symptoms have waned and

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or you can't make it because of other commitments, please
cancel so the next person in the queue can get
their appointment. Okay, a little bit of travel. So amazingly
so when work stoppage took place, because the ten thousand
members of KEPI who are flight attendants, the cab and crew,
so people will say, well, we're going on striker. You

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got locked out. It's a work stoppage. But some short
twelve hours later they were ordered back to work via
in executive order. No one should be surprised. The government
did the same thing, not necessarily the same timeframe, but
very close too when it came to people working at
the ports and on the rails. So they were told
go back to work and their Canada then at that

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point plan to resume normal course of business QP and
the ten thousand plus members said nope, not do it.
They're defying the order. They're getting a lot of praise
and applause in certain corners now, probably not coming for
the one hundred thousand plus people who are now stranded.
But the flights will not resume today. So does that

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mean that the arbitration process is also now sidelined because
of defying this particular order. You know, the questions will
be asked as to whether or not there's even legislative
opportunity here, which seems unlikely given the fact that they
need an as partner. It's a minority parliament, so they
can't go it alone. The concert US have kind of
spoken out in favor of the flight attendants, even though

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there's questions about support of that from that party for
organized labor, but they said they're onside with the Air
Canada employees, the cabin crew, the NDP. Of course, there's
no chance that they're going to vote in favor. It's
unlikely the block is going to vote in favor. So
where are we and is this a troubling trend for
you that the federal government so quickly as opposed to

(08:57):
collective bargaining process to take place with the b through
mediation and or arbitration because it seems to be a
very quick go to maneuver by the federal government. Now
you can talk about your opinion on this program, as
you know, but it does feel like all an employer
has to do is to wait out their rank and

(09:18):
file members, their employees because they think the federal government
will just jump to the raid. Whether or not that's
an actual sentiment held inside the liberal caucus, that's what
people are thinking in saying, certainly a lot of what
comes into my whether it be social media feed and
or my email inbox. And it's worth noting the Prime Minister,
of course, PE's former relations with Brookfield Asset Management have

(09:39):
a significant stake in their Canada operations as well, so
you want to take that on in any form, let's go. Also,
good news for the folks in Mary'stown, thankfully, finally the
Bailey Bridge is in place at open and operational. That
of course is the temporary replacement of the Canning Bridge
as they wait for a permanent replacement to be brought
into play. So that's good news. It's been a long

(10:01):
time coming. Folks in the area are absolutely relieved to
finally not have a forty minute round trip as one
lady wrote, I think he wrote it to jerrylan MACKI
thankfully today I don't have a forty minute round trip
to buy a turn up so that particular bridge is open.
Just via email as I get prompted to bring up
certain topics throughout the course of the week, A ton

(10:22):
of them this weekend about brush clearing. People of course,
extremely mindful of the wildfires and those fighting them, and
organizations that are opening the ramps to health the evacuees,
and everything else involved in this particular tumultuous time is
brush clearing. So I think I understand the relations some
of the emailers are making, but yes, I get it.

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The brush clearing efforts that have been undertaken in certain
areas really do give you a little bit more sense
of safety and security on the highway in particular, so
we all feel the same way. If the alders are
up against the shoulder of the road. It does bring
that eerie feeling of who knows what's going to pop
out of the woods before you get even the slightest
opportunity to somehow avoid, whether it be a moose or otherwise.

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So people wantn't really bring brush clearing back up considered
up the second most popular thought. Well, I guess third
outside the fires and brush clearing is cell phone coverage. Again,
every now and then it pops up, but more and
more it has gone from concern regarding my bill for
a service that is unreliable or non existing in certain

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parts of the province. The vast majority of emails now
are leaning in on safety for a bunch of reasons.
Whether it be you have an issue with your automobile,
and whether or not you're going to get an alert
regarding what might be happening in your area, whether it
be an evacuation alert or in evacuation order. And still
plenty people talking about the timing of getting any of
these alerts on their phone, you know, people who live

(11:48):
in the exact same neighborhoods and getting the alerts at
different times. Why that might be. I have no idea,
but maybe we can hear some information on that front
from the presser again later today. Your thoughts all right?
What's this all right? I guess today is the day
that mister Poliev, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada,
will find out whether or not he's headed back to

(12:10):
the House of Commons. Then likely he will. Of course.
The by election today happening in Battle River Crowford, Damian
Kurk gave up the seat after he had won about
eighty three percent of the vote, so the second most
safe Conservative seat in the country. I think there was
one other rioting in Saskatchewan that went something like eighty
five percent, So there's no reason to believe mister Poliev
isn't going back to Parliament. The whole thought about these

(12:33):
protest long ballots, so I think there's somewhere in the
neighbor to two hundred and forty candidates, many of which
are simply placeholders. The argument that they shouldn't be allowed
to run is a troubling one because now it's a
rite in You're not going to go into the voting
booth with the ballot that has two hundred and forty
names on it. It's going to be very much like
one of the special ballots where you simply write in
mister Polyev's name. There is going to be a chart

(12:55):
in there so that you can properly spell and write
his name on the about it if he's your preferred candidate.
So we'll see what the results might be. Will there
be any concerns offered if he doesn't get the similar
type of support percentage of the vote wise that mister
Kirk got. I don't know, a win is a win
for the most part, but when you're the leader, I

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guess it's a different calculation that's used and you want
to take it on. We can do it all, right.
This is a Canadian related matter, even though it very
much feels like American politics. There's plenty people in the
country thinking about and talking about the three and a
half year Ish war in Ukraine, whether it be the

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amount of money and support that the country has offered
Ukraine throughout the conflict. We were also involved in convincing
the Ukraine to give up their nuclear arms back in
the early nineties, so this does have direct Canadian implications.
The spectacle on Friday in Alaska is really something. And
before your insult is going to be TDS, which is

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kind of the lamest insult that there is out there
in political discourse. But just think about what we all saw.
You can dissect it as you see fit and bring
your opinion via emailer on the phone this morning. But
if you just compare and contrast the reception that American
ally Ukrainian President Zelensky got in the Oval office, where

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he was browbeat, berated, belittled, compared to the literal rolling
out of the red carpet on an American military base
in Alaska to welcome Vladimir Putin, Russian president, despite it
doesn't matter what you think about the conflict, but we
all know he's a murderous thug and the actual epitome

(14:43):
of a dictator. And yet the president stood there and
giddily welcomed. We've gone from Reagan and Gorbachev. Mister Gorbachev,
tear down this wall to mister Putin, may I have
this dance and leading into it like I would imagine
the entire world would like to see an end to
the conflict. Of course, this is not about whether or
not you're pro peace or pro war. But even told

(15:04):
leading into this what was called peace talks, but of
course it's not. You have to have both parties at
the table for peace. Talk is more of a strategy session.
The presidents himself, his own word, said there will be
serious consequences if there is not a ceasefire arrived. Then
he is meeting with Putin. No ceasefire, no consequences now
American security is on the agenda, similar to Article five

(15:25):
in the NATO Treaty, So that's important obviously. And now
today Ukrainian President Zelensky will be in the Oval Office,
but this time accompanied by a bunch of key European
Union leaders, I guess, in an effort to not go
down that performed of theatrical nonsensical hole that happened back
in February. So again, regardless of who you support on

(15:45):
the political spectrum in North America, just think about it.
The American ally, that is Ukraine, how their president was
treated versus what we saw on Friday on an American
military base in a Latin between the President of the
United States and the president of Russia. Amazing, absolutely amazing stuff.

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So you know, people get into the complexities of it
when we talk about, you know, the Russian want to
weaken the military alliances in the Western alliances and or
big picture stuff, but the immediacy of trying to broke
or peace here. Of course, the war was going to
be stopped on the first day of his presidency, which
was always foolishness, similar to Mexico's going to build a
wall pay for it, or the American's build all and

(16:30):
the Mexicans will pay for it. But this has Canadian implications.
It just does, even if you're concerned, is about the
amount of money and support that has gone from Canada
to Ukraine. An end to the conflict brings it into
that kind of support for the most part. So yes,
I'll get some emails now, tell me I have teds,
which again is so lame it's not even worth responding to.
But just think about what you saw. Doesn't matter what

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you read in analysis after the words or opinion pieces
that have been penned with your own eyes. What did
you see and what did you think? We're on Twitter
where we have sim open line. You can follow us
there email addresses open lineafeelsim dot com. Well me come back,
let's have a great show. We're going to kick it
off talking atv bands and then whatever you want to
talk about right after this. Don't go away, welcome back
to the program. Let's begin this morning. On the top

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of the board, line number one to say more to
the president of the new pland trailways that's recognized really
Rick around the.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Air h good morning, Patty, how are you?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's kin? Thank you? How about you?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Good Bye? Good.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Good.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I know that there's a lot of people trying to
figure out how this ATV band and the fire index
is working and all that, and we fielded a lot
of calls over this weekend, so I appreciate the opportunity
to at least give my opinion how I think this is.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Please do okay.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
The ATV bank is tied to the fire index. This
fire index changes every day, I believe at two o'clock,
so it is pretty volatile. And like, I have no
idea how to do this, and people much much smarter
than me figured it out, and we respect exactly what
they do. But when it changes, you need to be

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careful because like if you leave to go somewhere two o'clock,
but you better make sure that the next day you know,
it's none of this overnight stuff because things change pretty quick.
So you know, right now, when I look at the map,
it's completely different than what it was a few days ago,
where it shows that the avalon is moderate to low,
and then you have a gap go and say, you

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know across the Isthmus to the center where it's yellow
where you can't operate. Then you got a spot of
green in the center where you can and then there's orange, right,
you know, pretty much your western New Faland so you
know you need to stay in your own area and
for the sake for another few days. I know some
people want to get out, but like we just got

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through a busy weekend, or a weekend that would have
been busy. It is the week, you know, middle of
the week sort of thing. Maybe stay put for a
few days or getting a bit of rain and this
will find its own level, I guess, you know, hopefully
soon or rather than later.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
The fire index page is really easy to use, but
you're right, there are some very specific areas inside that
may indeed be characterized as moderate surrounded by high. So
just nowhere you're going understand the applications of traveling outside
your own zone. About the change in the risk, and
I actould say it does change every day at two o'clock.

(19:28):
It's very easy to find too, if you simply just
go to the Department of Fisheries Force rough in Agriculture.
It's right there. Or if you google up New Fland,
LABAD or fire or index Matt there you go, Bob's drunk.
It will be the first thing that comes up.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Great, so you know it is simple. You know, we're
getting a lot of questions, but it is tied to
the fire index, and like I said, that fire index
is changing, and like you said, let's give it a
few days with some rain in the forecast. You know,
this time next week it'll probably be all over and
you can go wherever you want comfortably. But once again,
that's not mil but let's hope that's the way it's

(20:01):
going to be.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's up. So there's also some different definitions inside the categories.
For instance, if you're an extreme risk zone, then outdoor
fire outdoor burning bank period. Even if we're not talking
about a provincial wide firebank. At this moment of time,
all the permits to burn are canceled. Access to forested
lands may indeed be closed. If you're in the extreme
risk then there's all the definitions inside very high, high,

(20:24):
moderate law and if there's also parts of the map
that say not available, there are very.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Few though, right and even the forested lance definition is
a bit tangly because you know that's the word that
they use in the act and in the legislation. But
that includes what we love, you know, the trailway force,
resource roads and stuff like that, and I know, earlier
last week or later last week, there were some I

(20:49):
guess questions about well, you know, a rail bate or
a force resource is not a forested land, but down
in the definition it is, because you know, there's woods
in very close proximity. And for the most prayer, from
what I've been hearing from everybody, the ATV community did listen,
ATV activity was pretty much nil, and I you know,

(21:13):
thank the responsible writers for that, because they did do
their pairs.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, and I'm sure they did. And it is an
inconvenience and as it might be frustrating, especially if it's,
for instance, your primary mode of transportation. But the risks
are real, and so let's try to avoid all the risks.
And you know, even as the premium said, there's no
evidence that an ATV has started any of these fires.
But the fact of the matter, with the resources that
are stretched so thin, and with all the resources from

(21:40):
other promises and thanks thankfully they are here doing what
they can to help us out here, that there's just
no opportunity to fight another fire. You know, we just
would be really creating a massive problem for the fires
that are already existing and being fought. And like I've said,
I don't know the criteria for shifting resources around, whether
it be on the ground or in the and it

(22:01):
is not premium making those decisions. It's fire management officials
on the ground, which is important to point top because
I think that gets misconstrued for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Like I said, Patty, give this another few days a
week or so with some rain and cooler temperatures, you know,
this can be all over, you know, within a.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Week, that's the hope. And hopefully that becomes the case
like Saturday, a bit more fall temperatures. I'm sure relief
for those who are close to these hot spots, these wildfires.
But the rain was welcomed over the weekend. Maybe didn't
get enough fit in parts that needed more than even say,
for instance, Saint John's because I'm not in any pairl
of wildfires at this moment in time. But yeah, and

(22:41):
if there's any further clarification, one more question, where you
can write ATV? So people ask me all the time
cabin country, So can they, to your knowledge, use their
ATV for instance, whether it be ocean pod or deer
parakrout mackinsons, whatever the case would be up and down
the cabin roads.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
No right, definitely not depending and the fire index. It
doesn't matter if the fire index is shown red, orange
or yellow.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
No Rick, anything else this morning while we have.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
You, No, Patty, just let's hope this ends. And thanks
to all the first responders and the firefighters. There's a
lot of people making sacrifices to keep us safe.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Absolutely, and some of the I'll kind of stop saying
volunteer or paid firefighter. They're firefighters. And it's terrific that
the problem is going to compensate some who are classified
as volunteers because they know what they're getting themselves into.
But these are extraordinary circumstances and I think that's a
great decision. Ric good to have you on the show.
Appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Anytime, Patty. Thanks for the opportunity, my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Bye bye. That's Bricks with the President at New Flant Trailways.
Let's go to line number two. Howard you around the air.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yes, good day sir.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Good day to you. I'm okay, thank you. How about you?

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Well surviving. I just went through the death of my
wife two weeks ago and it's difficult. But the reason
I want to get on your talk back is because
of the experience I had with the hospitals and the ambulances.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
Well over the.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Last prior to the last two weeks. Six weeks before that,
each weekend I was taking my wife to the hospital
in emergency situations, and the second last week I went
in there, the ambulance driver came up to Port of
ass and took him a while to get heir to
Cadre Valley, only forty five minutes away. But anyway, he

(24:41):
was telling me that there was only one ambulance on
for all the southwest coasts that weekend and that they
had lost to man because they never had an ambulance
to hit to.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Him in time.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Now the second weekend. The next weekend, I had to
wait for an ambulance to come from Stephenville to the
Cadroi Valley two and a half hours away to take
my wife to emergency in Port of ass because there
were no ambuluss on the south west coast. From what
I can find out, the administration allowed the ambulance drivers

(25:20):
to take their holidays pretty well at the same time.
And there's anyway I didn't like what was going on.
And plus the last weekend I was in the asphal
with my wife. There was no bids available in Port
of ass or Stephenville or Corner Rope, and they wanted

(25:44):
to send her to Burgoe, which is about three and
a half hours away. She would not be able to
stand it, and they were going to put her in
a closet for the night and next morning take her virgaw.
So I had to take my wife out of it
and get her in a wheelchair myself and bring her
home with no help at all and somebody to lack

(26:07):
an in judgment or administration. Now, I call the Western
Health Clients relations man and explain the situation to him
I had. That's going on four weeks ago. I haven't
heard a soundback, not a sound. I left the message
for the PC leader of Newfoundland.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
He's never ever got back to me.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
The only one that got back to who was the
telegram of Saint John's and they did a story onto it.
To me, the healthcare system is gone in Newfoudland and
nobody gives a damn and there's time for some people
to unite, stand in front of the hospitals with signs
and start demonstrating and get something done.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
It's for stats. I'm really sorry for your lost Howard
markendolences to you and your family. The fact of the
matter is like, even when we talk about staffing in
this company, there's reasons why we stagger our holidays so
that we have enough coverage, enough people to cover the news,
enough people to do these shows. So there's no way
that shouldn't be. How vacation time is applied in healthcare,

(27:17):
I'm pretty sure it is when we talk about services
on the floor between say, for instance, nurses, but it
should absolutely apply to the paramedics who were operating the ambulances.
How can there only be one ambulance on the Southwest
coast for whatever period of time. And this is not
to take away from your concern, because I understand it.
There's friend of mine there was a need to call
an ambulance and the person was in Mount Pearl and

(27:40):
it took sixty five minutes to get an ambulance to
Mount Pearl. I mean, you can throw a stone from
Mount Pearl to the Closes health care facility. So it's
remarkable what's going on there. And we were told by
the government it was such a great thing to amalgamate
all the ambulance services under one umbrella. But that doesn't
mean it's going to work any better. So I'm really
sorry to hear how affected you and your family. How

(28:02):
long were you married to your wife, Howard fifty seven years?
Fifty seven years? What was her name? Caroline? Carol? Carol.
I'm really sorry to hear about Carol's passing. Yeah, and
we'll we'll follow up with the whether be the Paramedics
Association and or Newfland Laborator Health Services, because he can't
tell us that things are going to improve simply because

(28:22):
you amalgamated service. The proof is in the pudding. It's
either better or it's not.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Exactly, and it definitely needs to be improved. Someone's knuckles
need to be wrapped for all this happening. And now
I see now on for of ass hospitals having a
radio son. I think this week to raise money for
more equipment would be a lot better. They raise money
for more bids.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, and the staffs keep the beds open, yes and yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
And the other thing like now the student the hospital,
I must say this, the staff there was very compassionate
people and most of them are immigrants, and we complain
sometimes because too many immigrants coming into the contrary, I'm
going to tell you about these immigrants, we'd be in
bad shape in this province. And I must say they

(29:15):
are very compassionate, way more compassionate than they were in
portabass Hospital that I can tell you, because the treatment
there was less than satisfactory.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I'm sorry to hear that. You know, I understand
how some healthcare professionals, regardless of the discipline, that they
have a hard job and work under difficult circumstances, maybe
work extraordinarily long hours. But the fact of the matter
is every patient you see, and every patient's loved one's
going through something very difficult that requires your empathy and
your compassion or the appropriate level of bedside manner. So

(29:45):
they have to remind themselves of that regardless of how
tired you are. That's got to be how you treat
everybody who comes through the door.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Well, they weren't too tired the last night I ed
her in the hospital because no second last night we
went to an emergency with the ambulance stretcher. There was
nobody in emergency at oh I'm part of as hospital,
not a soul. We went out on the acute ward
and not a soul to be seen, and I said

(30:13):
to the ambulance driver, a former student of mine. I said,
to nobody's working here. And that's when one the nurses
rushed out of the room. It came aboard to me
like something gone crazy. Now she did apologize after, but
in the room all the nurses were asleep, not one awake.

(30:33):
Now you tell me administration that hospital is good, it's not.
And I'll tell you another complaint I've made with that hospital.
You go into the and I've had this on the
go for two or three years, go into the entrance.
Nine chances out of ten there's no wheelchairs there. And
if there is one or two there, the foot wrests

(30:54):
are gone after them, or there's something else wrong with them.
And I've complained to the administration about that, and nothing
has been done. Still in the same state as always
as a discrimination against the disabled people.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
To not have appropriate and working equipment operational wheelchairs are
whatever available really does speak volumes to the state of
the system, doesn't it. And let's not talk about the
allocation human resources and bedside manner. Something as fundamental as
foot rests on a wheelchair doesn't sound like a lot
to ask.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
No, And I suggested to them they put a sign
there on the wall, please bring back wheelchairs to the
original position in the original state.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
They didn't even put that up.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Afford it. Yeah, for all of the issues that you
brought up this morning, I'm sorry to hear of your
experience other than the one compassionate experience in the other
hospital outside of Port of Basque. And my condolence is
on your laws. Sir. Well, thank you, sure take care, Howard.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
The mino you find out the minnow you find out anything.
Because no one has answered any complaint. I bed not
one soul. Their attitude is we'll stay quiet and hope
it goes away.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
And it doesn't go away. Nothing works like that. It
requires attention if you're if you're asked the question. I've
said this a thousand times is even if Howard or
anyone else doesn't let the answer they get, it's better
than silence.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yes, a lot better. We thank you for listening, and
have a good day.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
You take good care of yourself, sir, Thank you. Welcome
bye bye, let's see, Oh it's break time, don't away.
Welcome back to the show. Let's go to line number four.
Ramona you around the air.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
Good morning, Good morning, First of all. I just want
to offer my condolences to a man who just lost
his wife. Me too, Okay, Oh my gosh, I don't
know where to start. I just want to I just
wanted to throw up when I saw Putin walking off

(33:08):
that red carapace in America, the way animal of a bully.
I don't know. I'm just stuck for words. A man
who has caused so much upset in the old globe, really,

(33:31):
and now he's looking for the peace Prize.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah. Well, you know, even if someone listening this morning
is a ardent Donald Trump supporter, it really was a
lot to take in to see that. I mean, that
type of welcome for someone who is not an ally
of the United States has caused great harm. I mean,
he's killed political opponents. He's a murderer's dog, dictator. It

(33:56):
is just remarkable. So even if you do support Donald Trump,
did had that not come across as extremely dangerous way
to behave? You know, even when I don't even know
why he's involved at this level, if he's unable to
achieve anything he said before the meeting, if there was
no ceasefire, to be serious consequences, no, there isn't there
and there aren't so again, like I said off the top,

(34:17):
compare how Zelenski was treated versus how Putin is treated.
And doesn't matter if your support him or not. Just
answer me this or riddle me. This is that the
way we want the president of the United States to
behave on the world stage. It wouldn't be if if.

Speaker 8 (34:29):
It was me being a to be a president or anything,
any leader in anything. I don't I just can't get
it through my head. What's going on?

Speaker 9 (34:44):
Is I just.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
I mean, the name has cast so much chaos ever
since he's been in the government and looking for a
peace prize.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Well, it seems from the outside looking in, all you
have to do is to be flattering of the president
and that's all you really need in an effort to get,
you know, what you want from him. It just kind
of feels that way, and if you dare stand up
to him, then all hell breaks loose.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
Exactly you ready, I won't say it, but anyway, I
am so livid. What an insult to the Ukrainians.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Unbelievable and it's worth mentioning one more time. Ukraine is
an ally of the United States. The United States were
one of the driving forces in the time period where
Ukraine gave up all their nuclear weapons, So that was
all about safety and security that would be guaranteed by others,
which is why the Western nations have indeed come to
the country's aid in some form or fashion. Not everyone's

(35:55):
contributing the same. But hey, your allies traded one way
and you're are so called enemy even though there's no
need for them to be enemies like during the Cold War.
But they still are no friend to the United States.
And yet there you go. It was a lot to see.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
I couldn't I could be disturbing. Yeah, I just wanted
through a sway on that guy. Oh my gosh, I
just can't believe what's going on and all the chaos
that Trump is caused and now looking for a peace prize.

(36:30):
Come on, why don't someone say goodbye to that guy?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Don't? I suppose it's because the way that the system
works in the United States, he secured the most folks
in the electoral College. Consequently, he's the president and was
born in dually so but still doesn't make anybody a
good leader.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
They need your system changed, there's something about that system
needs to be changed.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, and how do you do it right? Because if
you just think think about like popular vote, and I
mean the coasts would decide the president every single time
because the population in the United States. If you look
at you know, if I'm from California, i have two senators,
same as if I'm from South Dakota. It's a strange
old system the and I understand why it is the
way it is because everyone in the middle of the

(37:20):
country would have literally zero s A and who's the
leader and not so short. Now they have different weighted
saying who's the leader because there's a different number of
Electoral College votes attributed to each state. But it's a
strange old system.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
It should be an independent system whereby someone can get
rid of someone who is a dictator. And that was
the first that was the sign right in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Well they can, it's called an impeachment process, but of
course that requires being quote unquote convicted in the Senate,
and that's not happening.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
It should be another independent bodybody, not the members.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah. Anyway, American politics is fascinating to watch. For the
most part, I try to tune it out, but it
is so important as to how life goes in this country.
Whether we like it or not. I mean the intertwined
economy and political discourse and the left and right and
all the rest of it. America politics does impact Canada,
it just simply does.

Speaker 8 (38:21):
It impacts the whole world. And we're all so intertwined, and.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Well we were anyway we were. Yeah, Ramona, I appreciate
the time.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Take good care, Okay, you too, all right, boye bye.
I'm already got blasted in the emails about it. And look,
your opinion is welcome on the show, whether it be
in the email inbox and or alive on the air.
But again, we all saw what we saw. It doesn't
matter what analysis you read or opinion piece you read,
or how one news channel or another covered it. Just
with your own two eyes, it was pretty wild. Let's

(38:57):
take your break when we come back. Water Bombers, Welcome
back to the show. Let's go to line number three. Darrel.
You're on the air.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Well, Hi, Patty, how are you doing today? You all
doing good? Thanks and thank you for having me on
your show. As usual, Patty, we want to talk about today,
talking about fire foot wildfires and everything else happening and
the devastation of all what we've got to look at

(39:23):
for the future. I know down in the States to
use bigger aircraft for fighting fires like MD elevens, which
is a newer version of a DC ten or DC
ten thirty series, and they carry carry thousands of gallons
more water and given more effective like you had to
use them when they had big fires like Stay down

(39:43):
California places like that. So I think what we got
to look at and add to our fleet, probably big
airplanes like this because these wildfires, I know they were
started in all different forms of formats whatever. But maybe
we're going to start looking at that added to the
fleet that we already got because with these big airplanes

(40:05):
to get put the farst a lot quicker to start with.
And so maybe we're gonna have a look at that now.
He might look out, Okay, costs up MD eleven the costs,
you know whatever, but in the long run, you're better
off paying more and you save like you know, devastation,
people losing their homes, cottages, and you know, list goes on.

(40:30):
So I think we might have started looking at that
avenue and that's what they use down in the States
and it's working. And I think down in the States
as well, I stand to be corrected. He might be
using seven four seven, so now that's a big bird.
But the MD eleven's are known to be very effective.
So I think there's something that should be explored now
for the future. And not only that, we got to

(40:52):
look at other things too. Listen to follow out there.
Recently Joe Russell with our Smart Canada and he was
dressed in the city of Cornerbrook and I'll listen to
him and he'd be worth getting on your shoul man.
He has some good tips as to fire prevention, like
stuff that the municipalities a New Fland Labrador take a
look at and people in general. So I encourage all

(41:13):
the municipalities get in contact with this individual because I
listened to him and man, it's some wonderful good information there.
And on top of it all the devastation. You know,
life could be lost and you know people losing their
homes and whatever and all that stuff. But another thing

(41:33):
people got to stop and think before the fire is starting,
by whatever way, is that you're affecting the food chain,
because these fires affect the fish, the wildlife in general,
and even like you look at the bee population now
in Canada's down eighteen percent. So if you start destroying
all that that's being destroyed by fires as well, then

(41:54):
that's affecting our food chain. And this is so people
got to start taking all this stuff there very seriously.
If not, we're heading for total devastation.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Well certainly, if there's no reason to believe that wildfire
seasons aren't going to get worse into the future. And
you mentioned seven forty seven, that's absolutely thinking the seven
forty seven supertanker, and I've seen them in action. I
mean it's pretty wild when you're compared to the size
and the capacity of a CL four fifteen say, for instance.
But the water bomber cannot be the be all and

(42:25):
end all for fighting the fires, because we had a
good chap. I can't even remember who called last week
about things like they're testing these thunder Wasp drones now
out in BC.

Speaker 10 (42:34):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Of course they have reduced capacity when compared to water bomber,
but that could be part of the toolbox. And then
things like the fire raptor helicopter. I know there's two
black Hawks that have arrived he in the province to
help assist in fighting the fires. So you know, leaning
in on just ordering more water bombers as being the
only go too, I think kind of misses some of
the new technologies that are out there that can absolutely

(42:55):
and should be cost effective and part of our strategy
into the future. I'm trying to get some results from
the drone testing that's going on in British Columbia now
because that I find that to be fascinating. I mean,
just think about the costs and the precision work that
a drone can also contribute. Here. So there are three
and a half meters by three and a half meters,
they can carry four hundred kilograms of water, which is

(43:17):
not a huge amount, but certainly when we identify hotspots
for these bird dog airplanes and whatnot, maybe just maybe
we can put them into the fleet as well.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
Yeah, you know, you're exactly right, Patty, I totally agree.
Like like you said, even if you can't carry much
water whatever, at least if you get the hotspots, that's
the key to a lot of it, because hotspots could
lead to a wall, big wallforce like what's happening now.
So technology is a big part of it. And as
a matter of fact, I watched one time I was
on an innovation Nation and it didn't. The programs are

(43:50):
no more.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
But I've seen.

Speaker 7 (43:50):
Technology they come up with, like how putting out fires,
and there's amazing stuff. So with our tech sector and
all that, maybe this is something the government's got to
invest in for the future. Stuff like that. Say, oh, man,
is there a good way we come up with, like
to curtail fires and put them out more efficient and
like to how we're doing it now, So we get

(44:12):
to open up our minds and don't have tunnel vision,
just look at the whole perspective in general. Hey, get
our heads togeters. What can we do for the better
to enhance things for the better?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, I mean, you know, everyone leans in it because
it's just the obvious. We've seen the pictures for decades
about water bombers scooping up water, and they're obviously critical
components here to fighting these fires. But even if you
look at the drawne which is just a small compliment,
it still does take humans out of the danger zone
as well, which is I think another consideration.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
Well, yes, and exactly right, and puts makes people more safer,
like the firefighters or first responders. And I'm totally with
you on that as well, because I've been thinking that
all along as well as the stuff's happening, and I
always think outside the box. So between like you know,
the water bombers are crucial four fifteens, but lets add

(45:07):
to it, like you said, the drones. Maybe we'll get
the bigger birds like the MD elevens. Yes, it might
be a cost to operate, but in the long run
is a saving because look at the devastation you are,
you're curtailing. And like you said, we got to think
in general, like think outside the box, and let's see
what we can do for the future. And the key

(45:29):
thing is rather than be reactive, we got to be proactive.
And another thing as well, education would be the key.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
I hope it would be.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Maybe maybe it should be stuff sent to people's cell phones,
like we get the alerts and whatever all the time,
like this is what happened if you throw it a
cigarette butt or you do this and do that, just
what could cause fires? Maybe should have this stuff going
to people's cell phones because everybody got a cell phone
and say, look, this is what happens if you do
these things.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, I appreciate the time. Anyway, Jarl, I'm going to
get to the news hurt in a second.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
Oh yeah, no, no, not a problem.

Speaker 11 (46:07):
Again.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
Thank you for your time, Patty, and all the best
to you and yourself at the OCM and your listening noddies. Again,
thank you for your time, my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Take care. All right, there you go. I knew it
was coming, and I kind of set myself up for it,
but anything I set off the top about, you know,
the need to find some off ramp here to bring
a conclusion to the war in Ukraine. Of course, everybody
in the right mind would hope that peace can be found.
But what we're seeing is not peace being broken, but

(46:36):
appeasement being broken. Appeasement has never worked. I mean, history
is pretty clear on that stuff. So I get it.
And there's a lot of people really really quite frustrated
with me that I'm not on bended knee with nothing
but praise for one elected official or another. It's wild stuff.
We're on Twitter where VOSM open line. Follow us there,
email addresses open line at FIOCM dot com. When we

(46:58):
come back, let's continue on with the sh Just a
programmed reminder. We will indeed be taking the press conference
from the provincial government so we can get the most
updated information regarding the wildfires at ten fifteen. But other
than that, plenty of time to speak with you. Don't
go away, welcome back to the show. Let's go to
line number five. Alex here on the air.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
How are you doing, Bettie?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Do great today? Thanks? How about you?

Speaker 12 (47:21):
I'm doing fairly well. I just wanted to talk to
you about a fundraiser I've coming up for the new
Funine Wildfires.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yes, sir, let's hear it.

Speaker 12 (47:29):
Well, I'm putting off another one. I have a big
old list of performers and I'll tell you a little
bit about where it is and how much your tickets
and everything, and then i'll get into who's going to
be playing. So the location is the Parish of the
Ascension fifty eight small Wood Drive that's down in Mount
Pearl and it's going to be this Wednesday, August twentieth,

(47:53):
seven pm and tickets are twenty dollars each to non refundable,
and if you'd like to get at the door you
can or you can call early uh seven h nine
six nine one four zero two zero to get tickets
as well. There's a fifty to fifty ticket draw that's
going to be going on two dollars each or three
for five and all money raised will be going to

(48:16):
the Raid Cross to aid in the Newfoudland wildfire is
going around.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Good for you, and of course we've saw with Alex
Taylor many times in the past he and some of
these music musician colleagues have joined forced to raise money
for a variety of things. So there's good people out there.
You're one of Malex.

Speaker 10 (48:32):
Thank you very much, Gatty.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
So who's playing before we have to get to the
news and the press conference?

Speaker 12 (48:36):
Yes, well we got not fit playing Daughters of the Rock.
I mean, I'm myself, I'm playing, and of course some
of my classic people that I have always playing, Chris
and Jesse Connolly, you know some of the people that
you might know if you've seen some of my own
and a lot of new people. I got ten x
this time, so it's going to be a jam packed
of music.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Good on you're doing. For doing it, Alex, want to
tell us before we have to get going.

Speaker 12 (49:02):
I think that just about those that take you very much, Betty.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Good luck with the Alex ex for doing it.

Speaker 12 (49:07):
Yes, thanks for having me on top.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Care happy to do, take care of yourself. Bye bye,
all right, So the programming line up here is we'll
get to the break here now at about ten past ten,
we'll come back and we won't talk it all to day.
We're just going to play a bumper leading into while
we wait for the premiere. Because last week at one
time they started right down time. Then the day before
there was a significant delay. So when we come back

(49:29):
from this break, you'll hear that bumper leading into the
press conference. And again if there's something that is mentioned
or not mentioned and you like to put it into
my ear, I'll make sure we get to the reporters
who are taking the media availabilities so that we get
all the answers we can. Hopefully today there won't be
the technical issues that were experienced last week, and there was,
you know, a couple of concerns coming in where we

(49:50):
left the press conference early. The problem there was simply
technical on their end. I mean it was unreliable and
it was buffering time and time again when we got
into a time where it was buffering an extended amount
of time without the best thing to do is simply
to come back and will allow the Voceum news room
to as Dave william says, to stitch it together so
that we know exactly what we did not hear. And

(50:12):
so let's take that break and when we come back,
you're here from the Premier and other representatives, and then
we're speaking with you on a topic of your choosing,
needn be wildfire, could be whatever you want to talk about.

Speaker 13 (50:19):
Don't awaydoor water bombers and three Ontario water bombers working
throughout the day. They'll be staggered on the south edge
towards Piri's Cove. The four heavy helicopters will work the
north flank. The ground crews on the northern edge and
communities include one hundred and twenty seven volunteer firefighters forty
from Newfoundland and Labrador and Ontario. The ground crew in

(50:41):
and around Adam's Cove area is twenty military. There's no
growth on the Patties Pond fire and fire activity remains low.
The fire is about three hundred.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
And eighteen hectores.

Speaker 13 (50:51):
Fuel breake construction and ground suppression efforts over the weekend
help to contain this wildfire with boundaries continuing to hold.
The ground crews continue to work along with the helicopter
bucketing as needed, and this includes Saint John's Regional Fire Department,
twenty military and twenty fighters from BC. The fire is
almost completely surrounded by hoses now and all fire breakwork

(51:12):
has been completed. There's limited fire activity at Martin Lake
right now and no growth. It is about seventeen and
seventy hectors. The weather conditions in the area yesterday allowed
four water bombers, a bird dog and bucketing helicopters to
continue suppression. Ground crews continued their work on structure protection
and suppression along the southwest boundary. Route three sixty is

(51:35):
open today. However, access to cabin areas in Rushy Pond Road,
Martin Lake Road, and Miguel's Lake remain road remain closed.
I think the good news is we can anticipate that
Route three sixty now is opened and we don't anticipate
any closures as a result of Martin Lake, but of
course we will continue to keep an eye on it
because Martin Waite Lake Wildfire does still remain active. Of course,

(51:58):
anyone traveling in the area is reminded to be aware
of cruise and that smoky conditions can still be expected,
and they're also reminded that there can be an increase
in fire behavior. This morning, tankers were unable to be
deployed because of fog and low ceiling. But as I've said,
it looks like that weather is starting to turn in
our favor, so hopefully the assets can get to Martin
Lake soon once the ceiling allows, the ground and the

(52:21):
ground cruis are safely in position. The plan assets for
today would be our four Quebec water bombers and a
bird dog and ground clue includes twenty from BC and
thirty from our province. So I want to just take
a couple of minutes to thank again the incredible crews
who spent this weekend fighting these fires and keeping us
in our community safe. I think the province had a

(52:42):
collective sigh of relief on Friday when the skies opened up.
I certainly got a lot of texts from friends pictures
people literally were dancing in the rain. One of my
friends texted me he was at a restaurant and said
that everybody in the restaurant cheered when they saw the
rain outside. So my two kids came home soaking wet.
They were out dancing in the rain and gave me

(53:03):
big hugs, and even they knew how important it was
to get that little bit of rain over the weekend,
and I just as a province, we all just sort
of felt that happiness, in that sense of relief. It
was a pretty special moment in over the last two
weeks of a lot of difficult moments. Surprising of course
that newf Landers and laboratories are cheering for cold and

(53:23):
wet conditions, but that's certainly where we are right now,
and it was a nice little moment in the grand
scheme of things over the past two weeks. Of course,
it's good to hear that growth has slowed and that
the teams continue to be cautiously optimistic about this week ahead.
But as I said, we aren't in the clear yet.
We have extended the off road vehicle restrictions until eleven

(53:45):
to fifty nine pm on Wednesday. So this means you
can't ride your off road vehicles in areas where the
fire index is high, very high or extreme, but of
course it does mean you can ride your off road
vehicles in other parts of the province where the index
is not in that condition. The new Hire finds remain
in place for anyone breaching the regulations and starting fires.

(54:07):
I was in Carbon area yesterday where I personally experienced
the incredible resilience of people on Inconception Bay North and
most importantly, of course, the dedication of the first responders,
the volunteers and all the government officials on the ground.
I met with Roger Gillingham, who's the chief of the
North Shore Fire Department, and we went through what the

(54:30):
work that the volunteer firefighters are doing.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
We were in a room, We're on a whiteboard.

Speaker 13 (54:34):
They listed all the volunteer firefighters who were in that
part of the province, from across the province and you
name it. It was literally from coast to coast to coast.
People have come to that part of the province to
help fight these fires. One guy came back into the
building with just his face covered in soot or ash
in his hands, but you could just see he'd been

(54:55):
there since seven in the morning and that was close
to the end of the day. So he was just
such an example of all the work that these individuals
are putting through, putting themselves through and again, as I said,
for two weeks, we can't thank them enough. As for
the individuals that I spoke with at Carbon Air Academy,
you know, there's certainly a sense of fatigue and a

(55:15):
tremendous sense of sadness. Some family members that I talked to,
of course through upset. They've lost their homes. One lady
I talked to lost their home and her three sons
lost their homes. This was in Kingston, you know, I
remember what she said to me. That Kingston is not
just a place to live like Kingston is a way
of life, is how she communicated to me. There's no

(55:35):
words for me to comfort her, just to tell her
that the province will be there to rebuild and work
with them on what these communities look like in the future.
You know, Minister Cora, I will have more to say
on that, but we're not even there yet. We do
need to make sure that everyone can return to their
communities when it's safe, and we're not quite there yet.
One thing I did here yesterday was individuals having been

(55:57):
gone for two weeks, are getting more anxious as the
days go by to hear whether their structures, whether their
homes are still standing or not. So I want to
assure everybody that there is a process underway in order
to share the most update information that we can gather
regarding structure loss and damage in these communities, but of
course it does take some time. The fire is still

(56:17):
active and burning out of control, and firefighters are doing
everything they can to control the firefighter but it does
remain a very serious situation which as we know, can
change day by day and hour by hour, and safety
has to remain paramount for everybody on the front lines.
So some residents of the town of Small Point, Broad Cove, Blackhead,
Adam's Cove and the community of Kingston have been notified

(56:39):
that they've lost their homes, and these notifications will continue
for neighboring communities over the next couple of days, with
Western Bay and Ochre Pit Cove notifications starting today. Many
of the communities affected are unincorporated, which means they have
no town councils, and it does make the process a
little bit more time consuming and difficult. We've started conductingminary

(57:00):
assessment planning and the collection of resident information in these areas,
all of which we have to verify before we communicate
any low structures to these individuals. We will be in
direct contact with those who have unfortunately lost their homes,
and we are moving as fast as we can. It
will take some time to understand the scope of what
is needed given that it is still a very active

(57:20):
emergency situation.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
But as I have said, these.

Speaker 13 (57:23):
Fires will come to an end and we will be
there for you for the recovery and response process. We've
established a cabinet committee of ministers to lead the response
and recovery of Conception Bay North. They will meet with
local leaders and community members, with the federal government, with
the provincial government, and we will identify ways to assist
people during this difficult time. This multi pronged approach will

(57:47):
be chaired by Minister Korab, who is responsible for Housing
and has very close ties to this region. The committee
will consist of the ministers from Education, Health, Industry, Energy
and Technology, municipal Affairs and Community, the Engagement, Justice, in
public Safety, transportation and infrastructure, and they will begin working
on these issues immediately. We will face a serious challenge

(58:10):
in this part of the province and as a community
and as a region, we must remain focused on the
present emergency situation and fires that are still burning. But
we will have to and we will immediately turn our
attention to medium and longer term impacts of these fires.
And just like the firefighters in the air and on
the ground, Newfoundland and Labrador will meet this challenge head on.

(58:32):
I did hear the struggles and the pain in people's
voices yesterday, and as I said, it's difficult to have
those conversations when you can't even tell people what they've
lost yet. So we do have to get to that
part of the process where those assessments are done, where
individuals' homes can be determined if they've been lost, if
they've been damaged, and if they're damaged, are they even

(58:54):
safe to return to and other things like working with
Newfland Power and Audro to return any damaged hydro assets
to that region. Things like schools have been lost, potentially
community centers, town council halls, all these sorts of things
we need to do an assessment of before we determine

(59:15):
exactly what it's going to look like in terms of
rebuilding these damaged communities. But the purpose of this community
and a Letminister Corp provide some more details, is to
listen to individuals in as part of the province to
hear what they need and what they want these communities
to look like when we rebuild, because their input is important.
As I heard from so many of them yesterday. These

(59:36):
people have been here for generations, people talking about their
great grandfathers having built their homes and been passed down
from family to family over the course of a long
long time. So it is important for us to take
that time and take those steps to work with them.
But I just would ask for them to remain a
little bit more patient as we get these fires out

(59:57):
before we can return and assess determine what the damage
aure of these communities. So with that, I'll hand it
over to mister.

Speaker 14 (01:00:03):
Kros Thank you Premier. Like everyone else in the province,
I watched daily briefings to hear the latest on the
wildfire response. I cannot be more impressed with the hard
work of our many agencies, departments, firefighters and volunteers were
collectively to support the residents and communities in Conception Bay
North Well. I live and represent constituents in Saint John's.

(01:00:26):
I was born and raised in Harbor Grace and I
lived in Carbonair as a child. I have family from
Carbonair to South River and just about every community in
CBN in between. I went to school in the region,
I rode in the Lower Island over Ghetta, and I
worked summers at a farm in Redhead Cove. As a teenager,
I spent more days than I can count on the
beaches of Northern Bay Sands and Salmonkov Sands. Conceptions Bay

(01:00:49):
North will always be my home, and it's a tragedy
for me that hits really close to home, as it
does the families that are impacted. I visited the evacuation
center in Victoria and in carbon and spoke with residents
who are full of fear and uncertainty. I will be
heading out to Carbonair again today to chat with residents.
As the Premier said, we want to hear directly from
you what your communities will look like. People all over

(01:01:13):
the province have pledged their support, as we always do,
and I'm pleased that Premier Hogan has called on me
to head up this committee as I feel it's a
way for me to help the community that I'm from.
As the Premiers alluded to, this will be a multi
pronged approach throughout our government, from water treatment, to schools,
to roads and infrastructure and much more. The fires are

(01:01:36):
still burning, but we're ready to turn our heads towards
what comes next once these fires are out, and how
these communities will look, we will work together as a
cabinet and as a government in these recovery efforts. This
committee will be supported by dedicated teams of public service
and polite to my friends in Conception Bay North, you

(01:01:58):
have a commitment from our government and our cabinet to
do what is needed to get this region up and running.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
We will recover.

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
We will rebound, just like Newfoundlanders and Labradorians always do.

Speaker 13 (01:02:10):
Thank you, Thank you, Minister Cora, Minister Hagy, thank you
very much.

Speaker 15 (01:02:16):
Premier. I just want to take a moment to share
some of the numbers coming out of the reception centers,
and I'd like again to say thank you to the
Salvation Army and the Red Cross. Currently we have two
nine hundred and forty three households registered with the Red
Cross having been evacuated, and that accounts for a total

(01:02:37):
of six ninety four individuals. We announced some financial support
and currently one one hundred and eighteen payments have been
made since that announcement on August the eleventh, and none
of this would have been possible without the help of
the people locally and the people from away, and the

(01:02:59):
Premius referenced volunteer firefighters. I have at least two crews
from my own district who've gone out there, just like
other districts have as well, So again, thank you very
much to them. We are still on alert however, and
we're not quite out of the woods yet. That things
are optimistic, and the Premier has explained that we had

(01:03:20):
two more evacuation alerts issued over the weekend, Job's cob
and Freshwater. You need to take steps to look after
your own safety.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
That's why we're.

Speaker 15 (01:03:30):
Doing these things, these alerts and these orders. That preparation
is basically seventy two hours of what you consider essential.
And I would remind people that not to forget medication,
particularly it's a warning and evacuation alert to be ready
on a moment's notice. Please listen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
You may not have a lot of time.

Speaker 15 (01:03:52):
Some people had an hour to get out of their
communities when the alert was changed to an order, but
that's not always a given. On the financial support issue,
going back to Badger and Musgrave Harbor, we want them
to register too. There was a Red Cross office in
Musgrave Harbor. They extended their operation for a day. But

(01:04:15):
now for those residents the options really are either phone
line one eight hundred eight six three six' five eighty
two or the internet www Dot redcross Dot ca slash
twenty twenty Five Newfoundland Wildfires badger residents still have an
opportunity to register in person again, today and there's a

(01:04:38):
reception area In carbonear that everybody knows about as. Well
there are volunteers there who can help you with that. Process,
again please stick with government channels the yellow bar on
the top of The government OF nl. Website there's still
a lot of rubbish out on the internet and there
seems to be a little factory producing. IT i would

(01:04:59):
urge you to pay attention to the verified information that we,
provide AND i acknowledge what THE premiu says that you,
know there's a lot of unofficial information out there which
may turn out to be accurate and may. Not all
we can do is government responsibly is to provide you
with information we know and, trust and in TURN i

(01:05:21):
would recommend that you know that our information is known and.
Trusted with that Premiere, again be kind and stay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Safe thank, You thank, you.

Speaker 13 (01:05:31):
MINISTER i just want to make two quick points when
we talk about the length of these fires and how
long it will be until it's. Out today is a
good chance we can declare that The Musgrave herbor fire is.
Out so think about that wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
YESTERDAY i mean this Was we're.

Speaker 13 (01:05:45):
Talking weeks ago that this fire had started and it's
only we're getting to the point today where we can
declare that one. Out so it is that just gives
you a little bit of idea about how long these
things can continue to. Burn you, know people had returned
to the, community but this is how long it takes
for a fire of that, size which is smaller than
The kingston fire of, course to get to that point
where we can declare it. Out and again we continue

(01:06:08):
to talk about the volunteers and the good people Of
newfland And. LABRADOR i just wanted to give a shout
out to the four young KIDS i met On friday
who would sol lemonade and donated one hundred and seventy
four dollars to The Salvation. Army and they couldn't be
more humble about if they didn't even ask any. Questions
they showed up with their with their tunies and loonies
and their five dollar bills and gave it to The Salvation.

(01:06:30):
Army i'm sure their parents and grandparents who were there
were incredibly proud and that was a nice special moment as.
Well so despite all the difficult, times still lots of
reasons in this province to. Smile so thanks to those
for little. Kids any questions we lost any year round
assets to other fires across the, country.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
None of our.

Speaker 13 (01:06:50):
Assets all of our assets are still here The New
fland Of labrador assets. Yep SO i think there have
been a couple From New brunswick that had been.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Returned all, Right, well there you have, it some updated
information coming especially from A Minister corrab regarding a committee
for long term recovery efforts in The Conception Bay north.
Region anything you want to pick up there please do
indeed put in the form of an email or you
can join us live on the, program just like nine
number two and. Rifing good, Morning, rody are on the.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Air good day.

Speaker 11 (01:07:20):
Sir how are?

Speaker 7 (01:07:20):
YOU?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
X couldn't be? Better how about?

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
You i'm not too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
BAD i got an.

Speaker 16 (01:07:25):
Issue I'm i'm In. HALIFAX i bought a vehicle And
i'm From. Newfland i'm From placentia, actually And i'm trying
to get to vehicle in short AND i call my
insurance company. Today broker link and they won't be short
a vehicle because of the. Fires Now i'm In, Placentia
i'm probably approximate a hundred plumber for more away from those.

(01:07:47):
Fires i'm existing Like i've Been witness insurance company for
the last twelve years plus and never had an. Issue But,
Jessica i'm here In. Halifax Now i'm stuck In halifax
BECAUSE i can't insure my vehicle bring it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Home have you tried another insurance company just simply for transportation,
insurance just for one, off Like i've done it in
the past.

Speaker 17 (01:08:11):
Myself, Yeah i'm actually dealing with another broker of Bell
Bell direct right now and before the day is THAT
i will have insurance on my home and on my
vehicles and it won't be from Boke link or In.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Tech, yeah it's. Ridiculous it's really quite the business position
to be in where you can pick and choose who
you will or will not. ENSURE i, mean you're simply
talking about transporting a. Vehicle so like when people buy a,
vehicle say for, instance In, halifax will to bring it?
Home you simply just you, know get insurance for seven
days or just pick a. Number and generally, speaking that's
not a complicated thing to. Achieve, no but.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
They will not insure that vehicle because of the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Fires, yeah so it's.

Speaker 16 (01:08:53):
Amazing i'm with just this insurance company for the last
twelve years plus and this is the TREATMENT i get for.
Today So i'm stuck In halifax right now until i
get insurance sometime.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Today it's it's not.

Speaker 16 (01:09:07):
Right these insurance companies are doing what they. Please they're
they're making the wrong rules as they, go and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
It should be a stop to.

Speaker 16 (01:09:16):
Us the government should intervene and put a stop to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
IT i, mean they are regulated by the federal, government
and it's a tough argument for a company to make
for this. Reason if the exact route that you need
to take to get To Cape, breton to get on the,
ferry to get off of the ferry In, portabats to
make your way To, percentia or get off in our,
junction whichever your plan, was if those highways have been
deemed safe and they're open for normal, traffic it's hard

(01:09:40):
to say that you're going to encounter some sort of
wildfire related issue if everyone else there on the island
is allowed to drive that. Highway, yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:09:47):
Exactly my point is exactly. Right so they make their
wrong rules as they, go, Right it's it's it's unfair
to the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Customer, yeah there's also you, know even home insurance regarding
why fires not everybody may indeed have smoke or fire damage.
Coverage so you really need to check your policy and
the other. Helpful WHAT i, know we're just we're talking
about automobiles, now is you, know have a pretty comprehensive
suite of photographs and videos from your property inside and

(01:10:16):
out so that you can document it if from when
you have to file a, claim then there's like you,
were it's impossible to get home and auto insurance policy
changes if you live within a specified distance of a.
Wildfire so did they walk you through how close any
of the fires might be to the highway that would
Compromise she.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
She, SAID i got to check some.

Speaker 16 (01:10:37):
Things she checked it come, back she told, Me, no
we can't assure you today because of the, fires BECAUSE
i Guess i'm in a certain distance from these, fires,
right so you, know But i'm, Like i'm Figuring i'm
over one hundred kilometers away for those from those.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Fires.

Speaker 16 (01:10:56):
Right so, ANYWAY i Called Bell direct And direct seems
like they're going to accommodate me, Today so they just.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Lost another customer broker linked and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Intact, WELL i guess that's The that's what they stand
to do is if and when you can't get satisfied
by one company and you do buy, another then obviously
you're going to do all your business with the company
that gave you this particular.

Speaker 16 (01:11:18):
Coverage, EXACTLY i, GOT i got three, VEHICLES i got a,
house insurance properties Like i'm Gonna i'm gonna go which
who's going to provide service for? Me not to have
to be stuck somewhere because they do because of? FIRE
i in one problems and NOW i got to travel
to another.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Problem they want to insure me because of the. Fires,
no it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
RIGHT i understand your. Concern so you figure you're going
to be able to get out OF Kpe Breton hare.
TODAY i won't get.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Out, today BUT i will definitely be on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
TOMORROW i wish to Save. Travels what kind of vehicle
did you pick? Up if you don't mind me asking
about a ball? Bus fair, enough traditionally very safe and
her live a long lasting. Vehicle Good, Man Rod stay
In Talk Stay travels. YouTube, well you're, welcome bye. Bye
let's see, here let's get another one before the break
line number, Three, elaine you're on the.

Speaker 11 (01:12:10):
Air, Yes i'm just.

Speaker 18 (01:12:12):
ROLLING i have some clothes and stuff for the people
that have lost their homes and everything and needed.

Speaker 11 (01:12:16):
Closed do you know anyone that could drop it off
to a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Couple of things? Quickly, is for, instance say if you
want to donate them to The Canadian Red cross and
or The Salvation. Army there's apparently some policy issues that
people need to be aware of about what they will
or will not. Accept so like some people are taking
only new clothes for donations versus gently used. Clothes So
i'd call The Canadian Red cross first and as the you,

(01:12:40):
know tell them what you, have and then they'll give
you the closest place that you could drop off your
donation if they can accept.

Speaker 11 (01:12:45):
It, right, okay but thank you very.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Much you're welcoming and good luck and thank you for doing.
It bye. Bye, yeah there's it's worth calling. HEAD i
mean good for people who have looked around in the
back of their closet and, say, well you, KNOW i
no longer wear this or this is very gently. Used
i'd like to donate to someone but it's probably a
good idea to make a call to just describe what
you have. To just make sure before you go out

(01:13:08):
of your way to drive to one location or another
that they're actually going to accept. It let's take a
break when we come, Back shane stating to talk about
THE atv band o'k. Away welcome. Back let's go to
line number. One, shane you're on the.

Speaker 10 (01:13:18):
Air, Hi, Patty Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Shane how you? Doing couldn't be? Better? Sir how about?

Speaker 10 (01:13:24):
You it's GOOD i called talk about THE ATV. BAN
i just wanted one sentence quickly to update you because
we spoke about a month ago about my child needing
surgery and we couldn't get it. Done Here we've we've
gone and got referred To Nova scotia and we're good to.
Go now we're already booked for his. Surgery there great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
News i'm really glad to hear that if we update
you that good, man glad to hear.

Speaker 10 (01:13:45):
It but So i'm coming about THE atv. Ban i'm
Certain i'm not the only person with this on my.
Mind i'm seeing it online and discussions as. Well the
wording of THE atv bank seems a little, Obscure i'll. Say.
So it stopped by saying it's a province wide. Ban
and when you hear province wide, ban most people assume

(01:14:06):
that means the entirety of the, province because that's what
the wording. Means but then two paragraphs down from, that
it says that these restrictions only apply to areas of
the index map where it's, high extreme or something like.
That so if your fire index is moderate or, low
it apparently does not THE atv ban doesn't apply to that.

(01:14:27):
Area i'm wondering if there's anyone from government that's able
to clarify or maybe just reword it so that it's
not so, obscure because if you look at the fire
index map right, now the whole avalon is, low which
MEANS i should be able to ride MY atv according to.
That but there's a fire In patty's, band you know

(01:14:48):
WHAT i, Mean, like it doesn't seem like it's matching
up with What i'm seeing with the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Fires it is, Confusing i'll grant you, That but that
is the rule as per the government is the province
wide ban is in place on less the area that
you're going to take YOUR atv is either low or
moderate in so far as the fire risk index on
their own. Website but it's a good point here we

(01:15:13):
are with the lower moderate on The Northeast, avalon and
yet there's a fire on The Northeast, avalon so it's
hard for me to break it down. Too same reason
WHY i brought it up off the top of the.

Speaker 10 (01:15:22):
Show, yeah AND i missed the top of your. Show
i'm sorry about. That from like Even, kingston, RIGHT i,
Mean kingston is highlighted in green on their fire index.
Map so the Massive kingston fire that's displacing communities and,
hundreds if not thousands of people and is still burning

(01:15:43):
technically has a low or moderate fire index in the.
Region but The West coast is, red so you're not
allowed to ride YOUR atv over. There Grand falls just
out The Grand falls with green on their fire Inst
so does that mean that people next to The Martin

(01:16:03):
lake fire don't have a high fire? Index, actually it
seems like it's really, confusing that's. ALL i wonder if
it's worth the government making some sort of clarification to
make sure that we're all on, board because we're hearing about,
people you, know freaking out seeing AN atv going up
the road and they're trying to go and detain people

(01:16:25):
and call the cops on them and. Stuff it's, like
if the rule was, clear we wouldn't have a there
wouldn't be any need for any of this. Behavior, basically
it's All i'm, Saying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Yeah, NO i think you're, right which is WHY i
brought up the ambiguity. Earlier and, look every forest fire
region has a, number so if people can it's easy
to figure out what number region you live in or
what region you're thinking about taking YOUR atv. Out even
if they didn't just make it fully relied relying on the,
website you could easy put out a news release that
says that forest fire region, one these are the, rules

(01:16:58):
this is the fire risk, index and then right through
the entire. GAMUT i don't know how many there. Is
let's see. Here if you get To Saint john's in
area is number. Fourteen SO i think there's fourteen different
fire forest fire regions in the. Province so it's a
good suggestion from, You, shane is it just put out
a news release that we can incorporate into news stories
and commentary on shows like this that says exactly what

(01:17:20):
the rule is in every specific forest fire. Region why?

Speaker 10 (01:17:22):
Not, Yeah AND i mean if you start off by
saying it's a province wide, vane THEN i understand why
the majority of people just assume from there that province
wide there's a, band you know WHAT i. Mean and
then it's three paragraphs later that they're going to clarify about.
Regions it's like if they were just right next to each.
Other the province has a band depending on your area

(01:17:43):
here or the areas or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
That, Right, YEAH i think you're. Right it's a request
that we will put. In i'll also put this in
the minds of the newsroom so that they can ask
those questions at The media, availabilities just to see if
there's an, opportunity because look for people who want to
follow the. Rules for people who, don't then there's no
talking To for people who do want to abide by
the rules and understand the, risk you shouldn't have to
be hunting and pecking to find the. Details they should,

(01:18:07):
be you, know quite easily and readily given to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
You.

Speaker 10 (01:18:10):
YEAH i, Mean i'm here staring at my bike and
my kids want to go and. RIDE i don't want
to be breaking any. RULES i want to be able
to ride MY tv if on the, left If i'm
banned in my, AREA i want to know it so
THAT i don't use, it you know WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Mean, YEAH i totally understand where you're coming. From we'll
see if we can't get this into the ears and
the minds of the folks making decisions and providing. Information it's.
HELPFUL i guess the press. Conferences, absolutely people need to
know what's going on and updated, information but we need
specifics addressed because, absolutely you, KNOW i think your ultimate,
point your summary point share is spot on to be

(01:18:44):
told that there's a province wide, band but that body
is doing a lot of heavy.

Speaker 10 (01:18:49):
Lifting yeah it. Is it's doing a lot of heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Lifting yet no, Question, SHANE i appreciate the. Time we'll
see if we can't help you figure it. Out appreciate, It, Patty, thanks,
thanks mouth bye. Bye, well he's, right you, know look
for folks who really do want, to AS i, said
understand the risk and try to do whatever they can
about mitigating said. Risk even at the same, time the
premier itself said that there's no evidence that AN atv

(01:19:15):
started any of these. Fires but when the crews are
doing what the crews are. Doing we've had to rely
on so many support services from other. Provinces it's just
the hope that there will be no other fire that
starts through some innocent exercise like getting out on the.
Bike so some detail about what the actual risk is,
everywhere and even a better understanding of how they come

(01:19:36):
up with, that because if we do indeed have areas
that are deemed to be low or, moderate but inside
that region is fires Like kingston Or mainland and Or
patty's pond or whatever the, case we'd be be helpful
to have a bit more of a clarification. There what
do you, Think let's go to line number. Two good,
Morning Patrick collins around the.

Speaker 19 (01:19:55):
Air how are you this, Morning?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Patty i'm, well thank? You how about? You?

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Oh good.

Speaker 20 (01:20:01):
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yesterday and it's Entitled murder At, godenville AND i thought
that maybe the listening audience will be interested to know
a little bit about what it's, like and lyric's.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Available sure tell us about the. Book what the?

Speaker 20 (01:20:24):
Whistle, well it's about a resettled community that was once
Near Spaniards. Bay that the setting is nineteen eighteen ninety
eight rather and it's about the true story of a.
Woman is based on true story of a woman by
the name Of Rosamond shepherd who Left gardenville to walks

(01:20:45):
and have ad grace to buy material for a wedding.
Dress and she did that and she started coming back
towards her hometown again In gardenville and had to walk
through A catholic area Of riverhead and what we call
The gullies back, then and she hadn't Been she was
never seen for about six, months and the huge search

(01:21:07):
party went out for, her was much consternation in the,
community of, course and eventually after six, months that was
In november when she.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
Left after six.

Speaker 20 (01:21:17):
Months of, course her wedding never happened In christmas that
was supposed to, happen and after six months she was
found by a gentleman from The gallies who reported it
to the, police and for some reason or other he
became under suspicion and was pretty well labeled for you,
know alleged that he was, involved and he spent. Years of,

(01:21:38):
course he was totally exonerated and he spent years getting
out from underneath. That SO i researched the story AND
i based the fixtion month story on, that and so you,
know it's a historical fiction and that's what it was.
About so it took place in ninety, eight eighteen ninety.
Eight her body was discovered in eighteen ninety, nine and

(01:21:59):
for years AFTER i interviewed children from not, children but
say have great grandchildren from the from the first that
was alleged to be. Involved AND i also have met
with children of the Of, rosamond great grand great great
nieces and nephews Of. Rosamond SO i used that story

(01:22:20):
to compile another story and linked it up with the
Famous donelly, family The William donelly family that Left Spaniards
bay about the same time and came To Harvard grace
AND i connected those two. Stories so once again it's
you know it WAS i really enjoyed doing the research
on number. ONE i loved learning that, history AND i

(01:22:42):
really enjoyed put the human face on the story. Itself
so it was quite an interesting process for. ME i
hope people enjoy the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Book i'm sure they. Will, Patrick so you're going to
tell us where people can Get so let's do that
BEFORE i get to the. News, yes that's.

Speaker 20 (01:22:58):
Available anywhere where flank books are. Sold anywhere renewed from
land books are. Sold howells In harberbury And Caravan air
And Dave Roberts riverhead being Chapters Coles. Costco those are
places where the book Is AND i thank You patty
for it giving me time to speak about.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
This happy to, Do, Patrick you're always.

Speaker 20 (01:23:19):
Welcome thank you, sir having good day you, too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Byebye all, right there you, Go Patrick. Collins what did he?
Says fourteenth? Book there you, go churn them up pretty?
Good all, right just check in on The twitter box
before we get to the. News reveosim open. Line follow us.
There let's see. Here, so As aaron points, out the
forest fire index is the potential of a new fire.
Starting it's not taking or it's not talking about the

(01:23:42):
president's absence of his existing forest. Fires, sure but have
the change has been so dramatic in certain areas that
there's still fires burning out of, control where all of a,
sudden the risk is now. Low that's the QUESTION i
think many people would understandably. Have let's see, here le
us take a. Break when we come. Back we're talking Here.
Canada ralph wants to talk about his neighbors and then

(01:24:03):
whatever you want to talk, about Tunk.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Am welcome, Back let's go to line number. One, ralph
you're on the.

Speaker 11 (01:24:25):
Air, gooday thank, You.

Speaker 18 (01:24:27):
Patty we're having good results with the water thing. Here
they already drill the wells WHEN i talked.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
To you last, right, okay so that's good. News remind
the folks where you're calling from so they know what
we're talking.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
About, hey, bright.

Speaker 11 (01:24:43):
But that's not the.

Speaker 18 (01:24:44):
Issue what it is we have a neighbor that's playing
music two huge speakers out on the front lawn all
day and even during the. Night someone said WHEN i
was away for a few, weeks and they, said it
was awaited here and we're we're in the to making
up getting a buy. Aow we just talked to the
council and they're working at. It but in the daytime

(01:25:07):
they said there's no they can't do anything about. It you,
know BUT i think can there be a harassment charge
against the? Individual?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
NO i mean generally, Speaking munit's withal bylaws are pretty.
Clear from seven am to eleven, pm people can for
the most part do what they like in so far
as playing music on their own. Property you, know this
basically boils down to whether or not they have any
consideration for their, neighbors you, know and if there's no
bylock and address. That but basically seven am to eleven,
pm people can do as they see fit for the most.

(01:25:38):
Part that's what we're talking. About playing.

Speaker 11 (01:25:39):
Music, YEAH i.

Speaker 18 (01:25:40):
Don't care if he pays it in the. Backyard he
was doing pretty good well before we went, away and
since we come, home he's got two a huge speakers
someone gave him and around the front step facing my.
House and we can't even open the. Windows we're a
prisoner in our own. Home we have to keep our
windows closed so we can't hear each other talking at the.
Table that's how bad it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Is and so when you speak to your, neighbor what
does that person say they?

Speaker 11 (01:26:05):
Have they?

Speaker 18 (01:26:06):
Have and there's a friend of ours is already this
decided to go around and take up a petition and
we don't know if we can help anything to have
them kicked out of the same. Brides that's what they're working.

Speaker 21 (01:26:18):
On.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Yeah, sometimes as they, say and sometimes it's pretty. Accurate
the best neighbor is off on a tall. Fence.

Speaker 18 (01:26:26):
Yeah, Yeah and BUT i don't mind if he. Plays
and like in the def he just turned it down
to his. Own but they they had a mass in
our graveyard they're a while, back and they had to
phone him to turn his music down because the priests.
Couldn't they couldn't hear the. Priest that's how bad it
Wasn't that's about a couple of thousand feet away from. Me,

(01:26:47):
YEAH i, mean imagine what WHAT i. Hear i'm right
across from.

Speaker 11 (01:26:53):
WHAT i like the.

Speaker 18 (01:26:53):
Guy i'm after helping, him after trying EVERYTHING i went,
Over i'm after working with. HIM i fixed the water
firm and, everything and he's STILL i don't know why
he's still doing, this BECAUSE i have my own. MUSIC
i don't need to hear someone. Else's but it's if
he turned it down to a half decent. VOLUME i don't.
Mind i'm outside working, anyway don't bother. Me but it's

(01:27:15):
so bad it vibrates our.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Windows, yeah so just simple inconsiderate. Neighbor it's a really
unfortunate especially you just said that you've helped him out
in the. PAST i.

Speaker 18 (01:27:27):
HAVE i have went over he's he had no water
and they sink and, that AND i went over AND
i brought over the, stuff cut the, pipes fixed, them
brought the arrow compressor over and blew all the mud
out of them and clean them up so he could
have water in the sink.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Upstairs, yeah you think that would be enough to get some.
CONSIDERATION i use that word, again would be. Neighborly he
sounds like he's not reciprocating and anything.

Speaker 18 (01:27:52):
They, need like his son comes over a metro fix
and he's buggy a metro fixing his bike with him
and all this, stuff you, know.

Speaker 11 (01:27:59):
The anything they.

Speaker 18 (01:28:00):
NEED i helped him. With LIKE i don't know what
else to, Do, like LIKE i figure he you, know
we were raised, together we grew up, together we hung around. Together,
like BUT i don't know why he's a torture me
with that freaking.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Music SO i suppose that's probably the last bit of
help you might be giving this. Neighbor, yeah and why
the front. Yard it's a strange place to want to
blast you music, anyway most people retreat to the backyard
or when they want to do something like, that they hear.

Speaker 18 (01:28:26):
It when we're in Church saturday, evenings we are in.
Church we can hear the music in church while the priest's.
Preacher and that's about, OH i, say in the middle
of the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Community, yeah so obviously he's listening to, music not listening
to this. Show but if he, was or if he
is just, me you, know just try to either turn
it down or put the speakers in the backyard where
for the vast majority of, people that's where they like
to enjoy a bit of music out sitting in the.
Yard they're not putting the whole street. Toddler, No and

(01:28:59):
like people.

Speaker 18 (01:29:00):
We've, had we're away and a friend of ours send
us a video to music is driving off the road
and it was just the same if if you were
sitting in the room with. Us it was so loud
from his car and he was driving up up the,
road and that's how loud of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Us, like, YEAH i. Understand SOMETIMES i listen to music
a bit loud in my, car but.

Speaker 18 (01:29:20):
Man like it's GETTING i don't mind the. Music it's nice.
Music but it's just too.

Speaker 11 (01:29:25):
Loud It, well you have a good day and hopefully
we can solve this.

Speaker 18 (01:29:31):
Problem so if, Not i'm thinking on selling and moving over.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
There imagine it's being so loud you consider selling your.
House that's.

Speaker 11 (01:29:37):
Terrible, YEAH i don't have much of a.

Speaker 18 (01:29:41):
Choice i'm not going to put up BECAUSE i know
if it gets too, BAD i have a bad temper
and so then SO i don't want to, go you,
know to an next two. Extreme But i'm telling, you
like when you're laying in bed at seven o'clock in
the morning and two big speakers. Blasting we have a
like a friend of mine using my driveway to put

(01:30:02):
their trailer there while they're working on their, house and
she had to go over seven o'clock in the morning
and ask this person to turn his music. Off half
at night there they couldn't sleep all up in the
in the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Trailer, said he's playing nice? Music what is nice? Music
what's he?

Speaker 11 (01:30:17):
Playing it's, well It's.

Speaker 18 (01:30:20):
Hank williams And Kiddy wells and about The owns and
all that. Stuff you, know it's not it's it's pretty good.
Music it's just it's too. Loud like you, know you
get sick of it after a, while like every day
the same, Thing and he has two weeks and he
has A cd player that probably holds five, CDs and
he goes to sleep and lets it, go and it

(01:30:41):
repeats and repeats and repeats like for.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Hours, yeah there's only so many times you can hear
the walle bast. Cannonball that's, It Like, Jesus, YES i
appreciate the, time, bro thank you very.

Speaker 18 (01:30:53):
Much i'd let you. Know AND i know a lot
of people here listening to your programming AND i, LIKE
i like listen to. It so it's you get a
lot of stuff on there that helps. People SO i
was hoping something could come out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Of, it so hopefully it. Does ralph appreciate the. Time
keep me, Upstated, okay thank you very. Much you're. Welcome bye. Bye,
YEAH i, mean it's just one of those. Things it's
pretty easy to tell when you have someone who's behaving. Neighborly,
now not every neighbor is going to be. Perfect and,
yes you listen to a few tunes out in the
backyard at a reasonable decibel, level nothing wrong with, it

(01:31:28):
especially in the allowable, hours Because i'm pretty sure in
the city Sat john's seven am to eleven. Pm i'm
pretty sure that's what the noise by law. Says, anyway
let's see if we can't get to the break reasonably on. Time,
danny you say right there to talk about The Air
canada work, stoppage it looks LIKE qp is not going
to relent. Here they have told their members and representing
their members in saying they're defying the back to work

(01:31:50):
order From Canada's Industrial RELATIONS. Bort look and someone, said,
well what happens if when they get the pay raise
that they are. Demanding but they're demanding it doesn't sound
that outrageous to me to actually get paid for working
while you're at, work because we know full well they
have duties before we get on the, plane they have
duties after we get off the. Plane so that doesn't

(01:32:11):
sound too bad to. Me and the concept is Well Air,
canada if they have to absorb those additional costs that
they'll simply apply to the price of a. Ticket, maybe
but we're talking about people what they do at, work
and what constitute is fair versus on, fair which is
a pretty interesting slogan they're using in their advertising. Campaigns
they look pretty effective to me on Fair canada as

(01:32:33):
opposed to Just Canada Air. Canada let's take a, breakaway go.
Back we're talking about, that And harry wants to talk
about the price of, drugs and we're speaking with. You
don't go, away welcome back to the. Show so someone
to send me along the actual noise by law here
in the city Of Saint john's and in, essence it's
twenty four to. Seven now it makes very specific references
to engine breaks and those types of. Things but, yeah

(01:32:54):
if you are playing music in this case that interrupts
your neighbors peaceful and, enjoyment you can indeed be told
to turn it off by bilo. Officer now what desciple
level constitutes interrupting my peaceful environment on my. Property i'm
really SURE i didn't have a chance to look at
it in. Full that's sort of line, three collar around the.

Speaker 21 (01:33:12):
Air, yeah, Yeah, Pat i'm telling you about The this
is bill con From Mary's. John we're talking about the band.

Speaker 11 (01:33:21):
Now on.

Speaker 21 (01:33:22):
Barbecuing that's pro paine and carb and carbon also car
and also the other one too is you had to
have you had to have a non flammable surface to.
Barbecue one about around nine career nine feet all around
or whatever that. Is now that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Revelations, yeah straight from the government. Itself the use of, gas, kerosene,
alcohol propane or charcoal burning units is permitted only if
the units are not used within three point five meters
of any, trees, brush or other flammable material.

Speaker 21 (01:33:52):
Exactly so if you're on your, barbecue you're out on your,
patiole you're want to find out that you are in
viol agd cosmosis surfaces are, wooden which will forbid you
to use.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Them, yeah so let me just open it. Up someone
sent that launch. Me uh so fires a band within three.
Hundimeters what does feed for us there is that da
let's get down to The. Yeah, NOW i don't see
in the government's own restrictions because it simply reads AS
i just. Said it. Didn't it didn't mention what the
surfaces that you're barbecuing on that The, yeah it doesn't

(01:34:26):
even make a specific.

Speaker 21 (01:34:27):
Mention while it, Does i'll tell you it does do
that because you talked to any far department now In Mary's,
town for, example, anywhere and they will tell you the.
Regulations and one of the biggest stipulations is about having
having the non flammable surface which are with the. Barbecue
want that's the big.

Speaker 10 (01:34:44):
One, Also, Yeah i'm just a fact.

Speaker 21 (01:34:47):
Too that's this is why this, is this is coming
from the from the from the from the far departments. Act,
okay they're not stimulating, that not in the in their.
Ruh the government's not putting enough out around. It, okay
let people. Know let's why people are thinking they're gonna do,
it but they can't unless they have those.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Stipulations, YEAH i mean you would think that if that
was going to be part of a newly implemented restriction or,
band that they would actually make specific mention of. It
But i'm looking right at, it and it talks about open,
fires and it talks about, gas, kerosene, alcohol propane and
charcolal be earning units permitted only if the units are
used within three point five meters of any trees brushure

(01:35:25):
their flammable. Materials it goes on to say calls used
why bui pecuing or as part of any burning unit
like smoker must be extinguished before being safely, Discarded and
no mention of surface THAT i can. See but if
you're telling you what came from the.

Speaker 21 (01:35:38):
Fire hall the flamneing materials are your decks you're standing.
On that's the flamm of. Material, okay you're standing on the,
deck which means it is. Flammable it's it's not. Concrete it's.
Flammable therefore it's. Forbidden.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Okay AND i want people to know. That now they've
heard your, call and you have a good day now
YouTube line take care bye, bye ski roll on line
um before. DAY i know you're on the. Air good, Morning,
patty morning to.

Speaker 11 (01:36:07):
You, Uh weather's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Favorable it's very nice temperature out there today after all
those mid thirties we had last. Week, YEAH i don't mind.

Speaker 11 (01:36:17):
It i'm in Deer lake right. Now i'm staying in
Deer lake. Temporarily and, COINCIDENTALLY i was In ontario AND
i didn't know there was a town In ontario called Deer, lake, Right,
Okay so, anyway we were driving, through, Right we're just bat,
passing passing through sort of thing round the, way AND
i looked at there was a there was a you,

(01:36:38):
know businesses and, everything, right and there was a there
was a restaurant that had a sign in the. WINDOW
i guess it must have Been Algonquin pickerel, right that's
what they did In Algonquin's pickeroll, right pale, pike pike fish.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Pike So i'm familiar with The northern.

Speaker 11 (01:36:55):
Pike, yeah The, Algonquin Northern, ontario the same place The
Rainbow country program came from back in the. Sixties Rainbow.
Country that was The, algonquin. Right, anyway the pike roll
over the pike. Fish so, anyway they had a sign
in the, window, right it, says once we've, cooked then you're, hooked,

(01:37:15):
Right SO i, SAID i, said, well we've got to
go and try, it. Right so we went in and try,
it and Like i've heard that pike is you, know
it's not the it's not codfish or. Anything but it was, good.
Right but the unfortunate thing was it was really. Good
and THEN i moved on and Now i'm, LIKE i
WISH i could go To Deer lake In ontario get

(01:37:36):
some more of, that, right BECAUSE i am. HOOKED i.
WAS i was hooked right. Away it's like it was really.
Good but, yeah, yeah it's kind of. Coincidentally that was
the sign they had in the window there In, Ontario Deer, Lake,
ontario once we've, cooked you, hooked, Right it was it was.
Good it's a little bit of a different word, picture
but it was.

Speaker 18 (01:37:56):
Good.

Speaker 11 (01:37:58):
Uh, ANYWAY i was. ONEER i was thinking also About
Air canada and The Air. CANADA i, mean they're you,
know they're they're defying the law of the government now
to resist What Air canada is trying to deprive them.
UP i, mean if they're if they're on the, JOB i,

(01:38:19):
mean if you go to work in a place and
you check in and you check, out you're you're getting
paid from the time you check in and tell you check,
out and that's when you get in your vehicle and go. Home.
Right So Air canada Is Air canada even owned By
canadian people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Anymore, no it was used to be a nationalized. Airline
it's not any.

Speaker 11 (01:38:39):
Longer, yeah the WAY i, Mean I've i'm sixty five years,
old And i've heard i haven't heard a hell of a,
lot But i've heard a lot of complaints About Air.
Canada and that's All i've ever heard is ORed is
people complaining about. IT i, mean these people are making
huge deficits to stakeholders or the board whatever they are.

(01:39:01):
STATE i, mean they're making huge profits and these people
are struggling to. Survive so they're living what we should
we say hi on the hog and they're just giving
people enough to barely. Survive and what would the, climate
the economic climate and the way things are going the.
Increases it's like they have no heart For. Canada they
go around the world With canada on their planes and

(01:39:22):
they don't have a heart For. Canada they got no
heart For. Canada that's my opinion on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
That fair, Enough Air canada is publicly traded is somewhere
close to twenty, bucks maybe because they're in nineteen. Today
as a matter of, fact when the federal government injected
some cash Into Air, canada part of the return was
in stock and we actually did very very well as
the government on the returns from that particular piece of. Stockholdings,
dana anything else quickly BEFORE i have to get.

Speaker 11 (01:39:48):
Home, yeah there's a there's a there's a small group
of people here In, newfoundland all Over. Newfoundland it's like
a network or connected, network and they have an initial
and they would like to see realize a liner board
plant probably you, know one on the east and one
on the west and one In. Labrador liner board because

(01:40:10):
back in the, day back in the early, seventies there
was a linerboard milling Corner brook on the. Waterfront. Disaster
they just used to ship jip rock out all over the.
World and so this initiative that these young men, have
they're just looking for, support, right a place to, live
a place to put their roots down and start their.
Business so they're going to there's a huge, potential but

(01:40:32):
there's a lot required because you're going to have to
build a. Mill you're going to have to build a linerboard.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Mill and it was a total.

Speaker 11 (01:40:39):
Disaster it was discontinued back in the, day right the
liner board was shut. Down so we're going to get
a global patent and collect all the liner board or jip,
rock and we're just going to break it down and
put it back together and cover it and recycle the whole.
Everything we're going to recycle it. All it's going to
be done here In New. Atlantic that initiative is realized another.

(01:41:02):
Patent that's what they were, saying, Right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
JANA i got to get going to the. News appreciate
the time you're dear lak, Right, yes because there's a
town in An ontario Named dere called Dear lake as.

Speaker 11 (01:41:13):
Well Ye, Land i'm A new FLANDERROM i just Say
i'm From New.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
Ptland good enough for me, Too Thanks, dana all the,
Best all, right bye. Bye, uh don't want to short.
Shrift anybody who's in the queue might could like to
pick up Our ralph was putting down about bad. Neighbors
harry's still there to talk about drug. Costs and then
we'll get some political perspective on some of the information
coming from the provincial government regarding wildfires and some of
the moving parts like compensation for. Evacuees at one, point

(01:41:44):
initially we were told five hundred dollars per. Evacuee that's
got changed to five hundred dollars per, household which is dramatically.
Different you, know people have four people in the. House
two thousand compared to five hundred is a big difference
in coverage coming from the reventual. Government so a couple
of those things are in the. Queue that's see what's
happening On. Twitter oh when in so fire as the,
NOISE i guess people are saying that if you have

(01:42:04):
a problem that could constitute not just going to the
town or the, municipality is the noises laws that can
be dealt with by law enforcement r and see in
this case in and around here THE rcnp in their.
Jurisdiction all, right we're On, twitter WE'RE vosm. Openline you
know what to. Do email addresses open on a vosem dot.
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(01:42:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Tim Powers show during the conversation weekday afternoons at four
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Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
Vocm welcome back to the. Show let's go TO lne number.
Two good, Morning, harry are on the, Air?

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Petty, Yes i'm calling about the pharmacies.

Speaker 6 (01:42:54):
There AND i went the other day the wife's subscription
and they were short on, pills, right so they only
give ME. Fm and they, said well we owe you
like they always.

Speaker 10 (01:43:06):
Did right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
Yep SO i paid his page six. Dollars we're saying, yours,
Right and when he got the other After saturday AND
i had to pay another, six SO i, said you're
charging me twelve dollars now for the same. Prescription, nice
what's going on? Here so instead of, six now we
got to pay twelve for because they'd shortage rugs and

(01:43:27):
were they always, said wall owe you something and you
win't pick them up and you wouldn't have to pay no,
more you, Know so just.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Twelve so let's just use round numbers. There so if
you had a two month supply prescription and got it
all the two months supply in one, dose it would
part me in one. Trip it would have been just
six dollars dispensing. Fee but now you got to pay
twice because they only had could give you. Hat is
that what we're? Saying, yeah, okay said.

Speaker 6 (01:43:54):
So i'd like to know if anyone can find out
what's going on, here you?

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Know, YEAH i, MEAN i guess all these pharmacies will operate,
differently BECAUSE i do know a specific example of when
they were short of one particular, drug and this is
involving someone in my, family is they only charged one dispensing,
fee even though they had to go back a month
later to get the other half of the. Prescription they
were only charged the one dispensing fee. Upfront, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
Exactly so WHEN i was twelve or, six same.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Prescription, YEAH i get, It.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
Harry SO i don't know if you can find out
there someone Can Tommy west going on.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Or, YEAH i can go straight to the. Association there
is an umbrella association representing all the, pharmacists well most
of the pharmacists in the. Province i'll get their take
on the rules governing dispensing. Fees no problem at, ALL
i can make that invitation. Today all, right, THANKS i
appreciate the, Time, Harry thank, you good you. Too bye. Bye,
look it's a fair concern because it's through no fault

(01:44:50):
of the customer or the client that they couldn't satisfy
the entire. Prescription you, know AND i do no different.
PHARMACIES i think probably handled it. DIFFERENTLY i don't know
if there's one stated set of, rules but we can
get the association on or someone representing them to talk about.
It let's got a lot Of number. Five take it
more to THE ndp member For Saint John center's leader
of the. Party That's Jim Din jim around the.

Speaker 9 (01:45:10):
Air good, Morning, patty thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
On no problem at. All SO i know you made
yourself available to the media with some questions or concerns
you have regarding how some of the wildfire issues are
being Handl where do you want to, Start, Well.

Speaker 9 (01:45:22):
I'll start WITH i have been out that way a few,
times AND i do want to, say first of, all
thank you to the many volunteers and the first, responders
and the donors too who've been dropping off clothing items
and you name. It and also to those who are evacuated,
HERE i think showing a lot of courage under under
very stressful. Times so that's the first THING i would.

(01:45:46):
Say i'm listening to the announcements and this is not
as much as a finding, fault but maybe with suggestions
as to how we can we can certainly do things
or improve, things especially with people who are under. STRESS
i would start, with certainly the five hundred dollars and

(01:46:06):
a five hundred dollars the payment for The Red, cross
IF i remember correctly with them with The Labrador west
it was one thousand dollars at that, time And i'm
thinking here talking to a few people friends who are out,
there five hundred. Dollars that's for. Incidentals that's gone partly
in the first, week but we'ren't entering into into week.

(01:46:27):
Three So i'm thinking that one thousand dollars would be
a starting, point especially when people are still not still
not certain as to where and when they're going to
beginning back, home and they're under tremendous. Stress so that
was that was just a suggestion why we wrote that
to the, premiere that maybe the starting point should always
be be around one thousand dollars what we have, done

(01:46:48):
what the province has, done certainly with the evacuees last
year with them In Labrador. West so that's THAT'S i
think it's a fair. Amount the other part we've heard
from with regards to, firefighters they're especially, volunteers is to
make sure that AND i AND i think i'm hearing
that from The, premier that that you know that they

(01:47:10):
will not have to worry about losing, pay that and
though and maybe that those who are, volunteering those who
have other jobs to go to and they're they're they're
going to continue fighting the fire because that's where their hearts.
Are their hearts are and there and they're want to
protect their, community but they also want to make sure
that they're not going to be basically well without an

(01:47:31):
income to support themselves and their family so one of
the suggestions that we did write The premier is to
make sure that that what whoever the employer, is if
they're unable to to to to pay the firefight their
volunteers or the, firefighters to make sure that that's backstop
so the firefighters don't have that to worry. About their

(01:47:52):
under enough stress as it. Is and then there are
those who had to take a lot OF i, guess
uh leave and you leave just to up uh this
is not their regular. Job there there's going to be
some way to make sure that they're they're looked after as,
well because this is beyond the SCOPE i would say
of just about every volunteer firefighter what's happening here in

(01:48:14):
the last well going on three weeks. Now so those
are just some of the suggestions that would ease some
of the. Uncertainty the other one AND i heard The
premier address of the, day certainly with regards to a
lot of people That i've spoken to, me they they
are really, uh there's you can hear the, anxiety the
concern and the worry about you know what if they're
if their houses are are, standing AND i guess they're

(01:48:37):
trying to figure out if they need to start the
insurance process if if they need, TO i guess what
the future will, be bring will. Bring that's that's the other.
Aspect and uh so maybe maybe in future there needs
be we need to CONSIDER i guess the information sharing
process because this is on precedent let's let's call a.

(01:48:59):
Spay but for us here in The Northeast avalon, Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Sure you, know in so far as compensation for the vult,
firefighters is it manageable or reasonable to have an assessed
case by case you, know with how much annually someone,
took or how many days off they, took or whatever
the case may, be versus a one size fits all
even though everybody's circumstances are. DIFFERENT i don't even know
how you create a formula necessarily for that sort of

(01:49:25):
different rate of compensation propose.

Speaker 9 (01:49:28):
That, no that's a good, QUESTION i. GET i think
WHAT i was looking at because in the DISCUSSIONS i,
had you, know, like so if it's one, THING i,
guess if you're if it's a, weekend but if you've
got to go back to, work if you had to
take whatever your annual leave, Was let's say it's a
week or two, weeks the loss of, that and as
one person put it to, me can you imagine the

(01:49:48):
stress that if that person's got to go back to
work just after that or they've got to take more
leave for. That so it's a starting point for me
as how how this looks, forward how we move forward with,
this but is certainly it's a, concern especially if we're
going to have more of these events where if you
listen to, meteorologists this is as one, point this is

(01:50:10):
a dress rehearsal for twenty fifty and others have, said
our summers are getting hotter and, drier fires start more
quickly and burn longer and. Hotter so this is something
we're going to have to deal. With the other part of,
IT i guess related to, that AND i know The
premier talked about an emergency cabinet. TEAM i think right
now we need to go beyond that as well as

(01:50:31):
for a maybe a team OF i was going to
say an all party, committee BUT i would say a
team of experts that answers to The house as to what.

Speaker 11 (01:50:38):
We need to.

Speaker 9 (01:50:39):
Do what are the issues we need to address in
the future in dealing with not only the in preparedness
but also in the, aftermath and maybe that's where the,
question like the one we're talking about when it comes
dani'l leave and compensation would be. Discussed BUT i think
the fact, IS i don't, THINK i really do not

(01:51:00):
believe that people who are volunteering their time should be
put at a financial disadvantage because of. That they're volunteering
their time and this is beyond the SCOPE i would,
say what happened, here this at this, fire and is
beyond the scope of many of the people who signed
them to be. Volunteers and they're and they're dedicated to

(01:51:20):
protecting their. Communities but that's WHERE i was going with.
That but it's a fair.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
Point, Yeah And i'm not trying to take away from
a suggestion of just wondering out loud how that could
actually work in any reasonable. Matter but, anyway any couple
more quick ones BEFORE i have to get, Going Jim.

Speaker 9 (01:51:36):
No I'm i'm heading out their. Day Apparently I'm i'm
my duties with the in the pet. Room SO i
guess you might SAY I i will be officially going
to the dogs, today but it's it's an. Opportunity it's
My my dad was From carabnair and my mother is
from May arbostou trips around the bay for us that

(01:51:57):
was going out that. Area BUT i will tell you
talking to people have been long, term they're. DEVASTATED i,
think as one person put, it, destroyed the north shore
is destroyed. There you can hear the despair in their.
Voices SO i think we've got to be cognizant about.
That and ALSO i think there's going to be a
quick plan to make sure that by this time next
year people are leased back in their homes or have

(01:52:19):
some sense of certainty as to where they're going to
be before.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Then, ABSOLUTELY i, MEAN i KNOW i have to think about,
it but it's really difficult to think about just how
devastated so many people's lives are now turned upside, down
losing everything except what they brought in the goll. Bag
it's just unbelievable to.

Speaker 9 (01:52:36):
Me and if they don't have, families that's another. Strain
BUT i would hope that we have. Something whatever is responses,
decided is done sooner rather than, quicker and people are
still not dealing with this next.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Year absolutely appreciate the, Time, jim take, Care thank, You, okay,
Bye boss Jymmed, in leader of THE ndp member Of
Saint John center very. Quickly the good folks in the
town Of, riverhead they're organizing a school a school supply
drive and this supports the students in the staff At
Cabot academy of, course who lost their school the wildfires
out In Western. Bay so if you can't, contribute please

(01:53:13):
do exactly. That so these are children kids kindergarten to grade.
Six the drop off begins. Today it's ongoing eight am
to eight pm at The Father Valve Power center In.
Riverhead or if he need some more, information you can
call them see what they. May indeed have a priority
list for what they. Need seven oh nine two eight
two eight two three. Six so once again today the

(01:53:34):
drop off location In riverhead at The Father Valve Power
center for school supply drive in effort to help the
folks At Cabot academy out In Western. Bay let's take
our final break in the. Morning don't go, away welcome
back to the. Program what AM i doing here at
Lin umer? Three, yeah take you more to THE pc
member For grandfather's windsor buckets As Chris Tibbs chris around the.

Speaker 22 (01:53:52):
Air thank you very, Much Patty daily for taking my
call this. Morning i'm calling this morning and not just
ON pasf, myself But i'll behalf constituents the, district your
grandfathers ands or bucans. BY i just want to say
a heartfelt thank, you AND i know everybody's been doing,
it but it can't be said enough to all the,
firefighters pilots and support, crew ground, crews volunteers and just you,

(01:54:12):
know the general public as a whole that have stepped
up and helped out as whatever they can. DO i,
MEAN i was on the ground for The badger fires
last month AND i got the amount of food and
supplies that showed up every single couple hours was unreal
and it's. Welcome and you know, What Patty, Newfland. Labrador you,
know we've been through a lot over the past couple of,
years over the past couple of, months but one thing

(01:54:34):
that we've never lost the ability to do was to
step up and help each other and help our. Communities
and we've got that finely tuned in this, PROVINCE i
got to tell, you and that's something That i'm very
proud of as. Well so you, know one of the
things that we're working on right, now AND i just
want my constituents to know is that we're working very,
diligently day and light to find out what structures may
have been damaged with The Martin lake fire here just

(01:54:58):
in Central so we're going to be work with government
or forestry and to find out if their structures have been,
damaged their cabins or, cottages.

Speaker 4 (01:55:05):
Because some people do live in these cabins of.

Speaker 22 (01:55:07):
Cottages so there has been much of an update in
regards to that for good. Reason i'm sure the, Conditions
but make no, mistake the people that are out there
wondering about what structures have been, damaged we're going to
have answers for them very very.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Shortly, YEAH i mean it's probably not all that simple
or fundamental to get an accurate number of how many
structures have been lost and that type of. STUFF i,
mean for, starters you need to get eyeballs on. It
that's easier said than. Done when you're trying to fight a,
wildfire whether it be from the air and or boots
on the, ground have a real close look at what
we're dealing. With the guestimate is out, there AND i

(01:55:41):
don't know when we're going to have a firm timeline
when people will find out exactly what was, lost but
it's probably not, today, No.

Speaker 22 (01:55:48):
AND i get, It, Paty like there's a lot of
people concerned here In central about their area down there
that they've made a life in for, shore there's no
doubt about. It but you, know LIKE i tell, people, buys,
listen we got the best of the, best people who
have been doing this a lifetime on the, ground in the,
air the logistics of it, all it will come out
when it comes out where we're you, KNOW i get
a lot of people are really concerned out. There i'd

(01:56:10):
be concerned as, well but make no, mistake as soon
as that information becomes, available we will make sure that
it gets to my constituents or whoever may be across the.
Province and the only other THING i wanted to talk, About,
patty was people's mental health during this. Time you, KNOW
i know a lot of people out there that they
are suffering with mental health issues and this definitely doesn't help.
Things people are, scared people are. Worried but, again make no,

(01:56:33):
mistake we have the best of the best here in
this problems that are trying to take care of. People
so we have no life. Loss and at the end
of the. Day as heartbreaking as it, is things can be.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Replaced people.

Speaker 22 (01:56:44):
Cannot so the fact that we haven't had any serious,
injuries we haven't had any life, loss that's a big
win for this. Province AND i want to reiterate that.
Again we're going to make sure that whatever cabins are
lost out, there we're going to get it out to
the people if Any AND i just want to tell,
people you know a, Lot we're a. Lot if you
know a, neighbor if you know a friend that could
use a little a talk or a chat or a phone,
call BUT i don't be afraid to give them a,

(01:57:05):
call join them for, supper join them for a cuple
to year. Coffee and again let's just keep up that
moment and must taken care of ourselves within the community.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Here, here it's a strain on people's mental well, Being
there's no doubt about. IT i can feel it. Now
i'm not even involved directly or directly impacted by the
wildfires WHERE i, live of, course anything else BEFORE i
squeak on another.

Speaker 22 (01:57:25):
Call not just as humble as you, are A, Patty
i'm going to say thank you to, Yourself patty daily
in THE ucm for everything you've done and given people
a voice to do this day in and day, out
and to get that information out. There it's extremely important and, That,
patty you're doing one hell of a.

Speaker 11 (01:57:38):
Job.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
MAN i appreciate the. Time Thanks, chris enjoy your days well.
Too bye Bus Chris, TIPS, pc member Of grandfather's Windsor.
Buckings let's. Go maybe the last word is to line
number one mic you're on the. Air good, Morning, patty good.

Speaker 19 (01:57:50):
MORNING i found it interesting understing there the people in the.
COMMUNITY i own a peach of property in the community
and the general public use it for launching boats as
the wharf and, whatever and everybody is. Welcome like, yesterday
there must have BEEN i don't know a dozen't or

(01:58:11):
know well over a DOESN'T i? Know probably clubs of
twenty people used the. Work there were three people sometimes
the one, time moving or putting their boats in and.
Out but we got a neighbor there that came From.
Ontario he came there about four years. Ago he's caused,
nothing only trouble ever since he moved into the.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
Community he Has.

Speaker 19 (01:58:31):
Barbara some patrons used the wharf and everything there and
owners that they had to get out of. It he's
got a hundred over one hundred phone calls into THE
rgmp reporting. People he's got three piece bands out now against.
People he's had about ten piece bands and against numerous
people in the. Community he's doing everything to antagonize. Anybody

(01:58:57):
he is confronting people on public. Property he's got a
wharf out that he does not have a license to occupy.
Illegally mine is done. IMMEDIALLY i have a license to
occupy the beachfront. PROPERTY i own the adjacent. Properties and
he's into it with whoever he, can however he can

(01:59:19):
and go to the. POLICE i got a phone call
last week from sergeant In detachment the stating that IF
i says anything to, him they're going to charge me
With Harrisman and here he is after putting in. COMPLAINTS
i was walking in my wharf one day AND i

(01:59:39):
saw him up in his window taking pictures of. Me
he's filming everything that it, does is taking pictures of
everything and everybody done around. THERE i PRETENDED i was
taking a picture of him with my, phone and he
reported The mountais THAT i was taking pictures of him
taking pictures of, me and The mountains are forced fools
enough to call the maladis also came to my door
at twelve o'clock in the night telling me THAT i was,

(02:00:01):
underbound THAT i had to stay away from, him not
to go out of my, property not going to underfeet
of his. Property all of this, stuff the, harassment the
woman next. Door he's got our barbarized patrons that used
the wars for thirty or forty. Years he's has to owned.
Him he was down there last. Week here's an elderly
fellow going out to his cabin to the. Islands his

(02:00:24):
wife now got. Cancer she frightened day to go down
there on the wharf to go. Out she don't want
to go, anymore put up harassment from this, man and
THE rcmp are basically helping him. Out they're the worst
there causing. This they're more of an what called instigator
in this because he's run the dim going to him

(02:00:48):
telling him What i'm, saying what the other people saying
that he's going.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
To those.

Speaker 19 (02:00:53):
Balties are going to those people telling him what he's.
Saying and he's illegally occupying The Crown. Lands he don't
have any rights to the waterfront. Property and it's just
totally and utterly. RIDICULOUS i got reported for out on
the water drinking, loys false.

Speaker 4 (02:01:11):
REPORTS i got reported.

Speaker 19 (02:01:13):
For drinking again THE mandi stayed down there on the
road for over two two or three, hours when people
in the community wonder what they were doing there WHEN
i haul, off came in from out boat late at
nineteen up fishing and there he left my property eleven thackond.
Night WHEN i hauled it on the, road the manadies
came after, me and THEN i got reported the next

(02:01:34):
week FOR i don't, know fish revisations that were. True
he's doing all of this stuff and there's basically nothing
we can. Do And i've been down here on my
property smelled dope in the summertime coming out through his,
windows and also next door the smell of dope coming
out from his. Windows he plays music loud sometimes not

(02:01:56):
to degree the other world for, saying but it's just.
Ridiculous and the AIR cnp are they're the. Worst they
should have stopped this four years.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
Ago OKAY i. DIDN'T i kind of lost track of, Time,
Mike but we're right up at in twelve o'clock, now
SO i apologize for. That but we can pick this
up another time AND i appreciate yours this. Morning here you.
GO i took my eye off the prize. There all,
right good show, today big thanks to twelve, hands and we
will indeed pick up this conversation again tomorrow. Morning right,
Here I'm vocim And Big land of FM's Open line
on behalf of the Producer David. Williams i'm your, Host Patty.

(02:02:26):
Daily have yourself a, safe fun happy. Day we'll talk
in the. Morning by.

Speaker 10 (02:02:28):
Bye

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