Thursday August 14th

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is VOCM Open Line call seven oh nine two
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Paddy Daily.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, all right and good morning to you. Thank you
so much for tuning into the program. It's Thursday, August
the fourteenth. This is open Line. I'm your host, Patty Daily,
David Williams, he's the producer. You'll be speaking with David.
When you pick up the phone. It gives a shout
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eight eight eight five ninety VOCM, which is eighty six
twenty six. So as we ease into a quick Canada
Games update for the bicycle rises. The road race is
the ten kilometer loop of which was you know, making
travel difficult in round Loggi Bay, Middle coavad Coo, but
team Quebec just killing it. They won three out of
the four gold medals. In the road race, they swept

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the men's division. The guy who won the men's division
kid named Joseph Vaschan. He finished the across the finish
line ten minutes ahead of the silver medalists on a
ten k loops, so that's pretty impressive. There was a
couple of areas where we were on the verge of
the medal rounds and getting into the semis and to
the finals. One such area is rugby, so rugby seven
is particularly exciting, quick brand of rugby. So both Ontario

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British Columby made it into the men's and women's gold medals,
each coming away with a victory. So on the women's side,
team BC one over Team Ontario and on the men's
side the other way around. So there you go. So hopefully,
and a couple of the sports where we were close.
I'm hearing some pretty good reports about the performances we're
putting in there, and we got a couple of medals
and the games for Seed today, So beach volleyball is

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going to be back in Paradise Park this afternoon. Sailing
resumes with their competition canoe and kayak, which is being
dominated by Novasco. They're back on Katie Viddi Lake with
ten gold on offer. Today. Basketball we were right there
on the verge but came up sure to get into
the middle rounds. Swimming back on the go. It's the
penultimate day of swimming. Soccer back at King George the

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Fifth Stadium or soccer pitch tonight, So there you go,
or today and tonight. I'm getting some emails people saying,
you know, what's so much going on? And look, the
wildfires are top of mind and a major worry and
dominating the news. But people are saying that the games
should be paused or canceled as a result. I'm not
entirely sure the rationale behind that thought, but if you

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want to talk to the games or any of the
complications or implications of them, we're happy to do it.
And a couple of random sports notes, Happy Reggie Jackson
Day to you. On this date nineteen ninety three, mister October,
Reggie Jackson had his uniform number retired by the New
York Yankees, and of course track and field big part
of the Canada Summer Games. On this date in twenty sixteen,
Jamaican Superstar Legends sprinter use. Saint Bolt won one hundred

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meter Olympic gold medal at the Rio de jan Ai Olympics,
becoming the first man win it in three separate Olympics.
There you go, all right, let's see here, wildfire around up.
So the premiere will be given an update again this
morning at ten am, which we will cover live here
on VOCEM. There's a lot to talk about on this

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front now. Lots of consternation pouring into my email inbox
regarding an announcement made yesterday about off road vehicle usage,
so ATVs, side by sides, mini bikes, dart bikes, trail
bikes and so many vehicles like dune or sports buggies,
off road main machines and amphibious vehicles can no longer

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be used in the forested areas now, all right, So
the premieer opened up and prefaced it by saying there's
no evidence that an ATV or any of these machines
has actually caused the fire, but he makes distinct reference
to resources being stretched thin as we can all see.
So plenty of people are disappointed with it, and if

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you're one of them, you're welcome to come on the show.
But if there's ways to mitigate risk without going too
far like I do think like in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick,
simply being not allowed to go for a walk in
the woods seems a bit much to me. You know,
if someone's not going into the Serti fire, then I
don't know exactly the justification behind it. But the ATV,
I think, is a different conversation. What do you think?

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But here's the confusion. So it has been laid bare
in some part by the government, but I'm feeling tons
of very specific scenario questions about can I or can
I not use my ATV, my quad, my trick or
my Dirk bike or whatever. So for instance, in cabin roads,
just pick a cabin or ocean pond, deer park, whatever
the case may be. My understanding is no, you're not allowed.

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Then there's questions come from people who say, well, the ATV.
I live in a fairly remote cabin. My only mode
of transportation in and out is my quad? Am I
allowed to use it? My understanding is not at this time. Now,
it feels and hopefully will be a short term issue.
Is going to be reviewed on the seventeenth of the
month to see whether or not it needs to proceed.
I guess all based on the fire risk in various areas.

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So we're still trying to clarify some very specific scenarios
for you, and people are saying, well, are there exemptions
for tourist who are on a province wide track on
their air quads. My understanding is no, there's no exemption.
But I've gone to the newsroom and it's not my
business to tell the reporters at Viocum News what to do.
They're professionals. They'll do as they see fit. I wondered

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whether or not we could post some of these scenario
questions to the Premier and or the Ministry responsible today
so that we can get accurate information for you, because
that's all that's really important. Well, that's what's important to me,
acquard information so we can get into it if you're
so inclined on any of those fronts today. But I'm trying,
and a quick reminder understandably, the wildfire situation dominates the news.

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It's top of mind from any listening to the program
this morning. I'm also getting emails and they say, Patty,
I have this or that concern and I know it
doesn't add up to the importance of wildfire conversations. I'll
leave it alone. No, you don't have to. We can
talk about anything. We'll have plenty of time to talk
about the wildfires and the approach we're taking. Then any
angle you see fit, but absolutely feel free please to

(06:11):
call the show with whatever's in your mind. Plenty of
time to do both. All right. Couple of things, So
the R and C we're looking for information regarding a
woman seen leaving the or point of origin for the
Pattiston fire. They wanted to identify the woman, you know,
driving a black suv up and down the line. So
apparently the woman has been located and identified. The investigation

(06:33):
is ongoing. But once again, I mean I've probably got
three or four email, three or four hundred emails overnight.
There's no arrest been made. Look, we have no earthly
idea what this woman may or may not know, or
whether or not she's involved in any form of fashion
with that particular fire. Apparently she was seen by the
scene and maybe has some information that would be helpful
to the R and C. So no, she hasn't been arrested,

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hasn't been charged with anything. They're simply investigating, and they
wanted to speak with her, and now they've identified her,
so that's a good thing. Apparently there's a suspect that identified.
The allegation is that one person is responsible for starting
those four brush fires in the city Saint John's the
other night. Apparently there's been on three occasion fines have
been handed out to what extent I don't know. Hasn't

(07:16):
been clear in the release, but for the first time
offenders it was fifty thousand dollars, which is extraordinary. So
you want to take it on, we can do it.
It looks like there's a drop of rain in the
forecast for tomorrow. Hopefully that comes to pass. And yes,
for the resources that are absolutely being taxed for everyone
working on these fires. Everyone will trying to help the evacuees.

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Thank you very much for what you're doing now inso fires.
Offers of help or assistants that have been made to
government that's been reported in social media circles. Apparently that's
not true. But if you would like to and whether
you have equipment or some expertise that can aid in
fighting these wildfires, there's a now dedicated email address that
you can use to bring forward your offer to the
provincial government, and it's an easy one. Horst Fires twenty

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twenty five at GOVTL dot Ca. Let's talk about it,
and again, let's talk about whatever you want to talk
about today, all right. So, whether you're here for a
visit to the province as a tourist this year, whether
you're someone living here who has plans to get out
of here for whatever reason under the sun, whether it's

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going to complicate the change over time for the Candid
Games athletes and their supporters and staff. The Air candid
potential for strike at this weekend is a big concern.
There's a lot to this, okay. So the company saidy'll
lock them out and QP says to poise the strike
on Saturday. There's already been some flight suspended or canceled
beginning today. The standoff is huge. So apparently the way

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it works for flight attendants, they only get paid when
the aircraft is in motion, so not getting paid for
the pre boarding or the d planning procedures that they're
responsible for. Air Canada has offered them a fifty percent
of their wage for that time, and the representative union
QP says no, we won one hundred percent. So getting
paid for work seems and sounds pretty fundamental. But here's

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the complicating factor when it refers to the legislation. This
is one of the victims of prorogation. We know that
when government was prorogued, that every piece of legislation that
had not made its way through Parliament and all the
readings and the debate and the amendments and the vote
and after the Senate to be ratified and then to
receive royal a cent if it didn't make it to

(09:30):
royal assent. Right back to the drawing board. There was
a motion that had been tabled, a piece of legislation
tabled by the Conservatives and the NDP that pretty much
said amending the Labor Standards Act to include one hundred
percent pay for work you do. It didn't make its
way through Parliament, so consequently here we are, and it
should be amended. If you're working, you're on the clock,

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on the clock, should result in getting paid for exactly
all the time you are actually at work doing your work.
The question that would become the federal governments and intervening
in a potential strike. Here things have changed dramatically. I mean,
you think about it. The port workers legislative back to work.
Rail workers are legislative back to work. Now we have

(10:12):
the potential and requests coming from many sectors, including the
governments and hospitality associations right across the country talk about
they cannot afford to see Air Canada flights disrupted because
not everyone's going to get rebooked on another carrier. So
what are your thoughts on the FEDS potentially being involved
in some form here. Also, Canada Post they met with
a mediator Tuesday, and there's going to be more meetings

(10:35):
between the union and Canada Post the corporation on Friday
and on Monday. They are a long long way apart.
The union voted down in dramatic fashion the most recent
offer from Canada Post, and people say, well, let's just
blow it up. You know, times have change. We don't
need Canada Posts anymore. We can use all the courier services.
The only problem there is all the courier services do

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not service what they call the last mile. So you
want to talk about that, let's go Also, so thankfully
the public hearings have begun regarding travel agency nurses all right,
So the contracts will be provided by the end of
this week and the expectation of a full forensic audit
will be completed by the end of September, so says

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the CEO of NL Health Services, Pat Priory. So a
few things. So, there was fifteen recommendations in the Audit
of General's report, twelve of them have been implemented and
that leaves three outstanding. One of those three outstanding is
for their forensic audit. Just look at some of the
numbers here according to the Auditor of General, as she says,
strong indication is a potential billing fraud by agency A

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for electric vehicle rentals. Here's the numbers. The company submitted
invoices and was paid five hundred and forty six thousand
dollars plus worth of ev rentals. However, sixty percent of
that amount went to rentals to nurses who did not
appear to have the vehicle or where usage by a
nurse could not be bare. So I'm not going to
get into all the different areas necessarily in the AG's report.

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But there was mention in the public hearings that if
there needs to be investigations by law enforcement, that will happen.
So I don't know what that means for public sector
employees and the lack of oversighted monitoring to authenticate the
veracity and the accuracy of invoices. But the companies there's
no longer a contract with said agency a as a

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report calls it. That's where an investigation also has to
take place. I mean, if they were fraudulently billing the province.
And we know we're talking about over two and forty
million dollars over the span for just a few years,
so there's a lot here not to be fully understood.
So at every turn where there's the potential for fraud,
whether it be by the companies, whether it be by

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members working for the public sector, then let's hope that happens,
because it's time to clamp down on this kind of
stuff which just happens far, far too often. All right,
And here's an example where listeners are a huge benefit
to me. In the show, made mention of a news
story that I read from up along about the use
of artificial intelligence for doctors to help transcribe consultations and

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produce doctor's notes as opposed to them doing the paperwork
themselves some two three hours a day. What's the result?
They get to see more patients now we can talk
about cybersecurity and how that data is stored, and that's
important stuff. But when I made mention of it, thankfully
people who are listening send me emails saying, Oh, my
doctor's office clinic is actually doing exactly that. That's a
good thing. I didn't know because I haven't been to

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the doctor in a while. But that's good to know.
So when you hear me talk about something, you can
provide some context or additional information or confirmation. Please do
exactly that. I find it extremely beneficial. So apparently it
is happening here. Good News spoke with to Want Street,
the President of the FFAW, yesterday, on a variety of issues.

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One was the proposed marine the National Marine Conservation Area
to cover if it becomes a thing, some sixty five
hundred and thirty eight klounters of ocean to be protected. Okay,
so there are some people pushing back against it, whether
it be the agriculture industry, and at this point the FAW,

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based on some of the confusing or lack of information
or clarification in it, a couple of things of interest.
So this proposal of a national Marine Conservation Area would
fall under Parks Canada, which is different than marine protected areas,
and they have different parameters as well. Marine protected areas
fall under federal legislation, the Canada's Oceans Act. There's three

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already in the province of the Derentia Channel, Gilbert Bay
and Eastport. So they're still just in the feasibility stage here.
So what I don't quite understand is the confusion that
still seems to be reigning supreme here. For starters, the
feasibility would have to conclude with real, carefully defined, black

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and white what you can and cannot do in a
national marine conservation are So they say a lot of
things will be grandfathered in, but the concern there would be,
of course, the aquaculture industry would not be able to
expand into that area. For the wild fisheries lobster, Hollywood redfish, scollop.
When they say no bottom contact, that absolutely feels like
that means the scot of fishery would no longer be

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able to be executed or prosecuted in those areas, if
that ever becomes a thing. So when we talk about confusion,
is there not an opportunity for everything to be carefully
spelled out. Now here's one of the quotes coming from
a gentleman with Parks Canada. In June of this year,
we had included four full protection zones which would be

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closed within the NMCA to all activities, and those zones
will be less than five percent of the entire MCA.
So if you're out one side of that conversation or
another on the West coast, let's go in and talk
about it. Another implication of the bands for commercial operations

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in the woods is having a distinct impact on Cornerbrook
Pulp and Paper, owned of course by Kruger. So they
don't They say they just don't have enough fiber to
proceed with operations, so they are ceasing or temporary suspending
operations due to the limited fiber availability. We know there's
nine fires five er out of control. This is not

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the first time they pause operations, as we know. Last
year around this time temporarily closed repairs on their steam
distribution system in twenty twenty three. There was obviously difficult
business environment for that industry, so there was a shutdown.
Then we heard this year they came forward on their
one hundredth anniversary or thereabouts with seven hundred million dollar
investment to help what they call stabilize the facility and

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shift priorities to lumber production. We do know that they're
still paying back the one hundred and ten million dollar loan
that they signed with the government in twenty fourteen. They
figured that with the new financing plan, they're going to
have an actual three year strategy for repayment of that loan.
As a post is simply servicing the interest on the loan.
How were doing on the telephone there, Dave? All right,

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and once again just friendly reminder, Yes, we absolutely can.
We'll be talking about the wildfires, but that needn't be
the only conversation we have here today. Don't tell yourself
that your issue is too small or pales in comparison
to the wildfires. Still, during the course of three hours,
we have plenty of time for you. We're on Twitter
where VOSM open line follows there email addresses open onnafosim

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dot com. When we come back, let's have a great
segment to kick us off. Nick Sion the you to
talk about long hair and wildfires, and Eleanor wants to
talk about the betas Bear Highway that remains closed. Don't
go away. Clock back to the show. Let's go to
LNE number one, nick, you're on the air.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Hey Fatty, Hey there, Hey doing today?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Doing okay? How about you?

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Not too bad, listen. I'm just calling in today with
kind of a curious quandary or a question for some
of your listeners and maybe yourself as well. Just start
doing a bit of long care under front lawn. I
don't got a very big lawn, just a couple of
weeds popped up, So I ran the mower, and as
I was cluing up, neighbor from down the street comes

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over and starts yelling at me, telling me I need
to smart no, telling me that there's a fireban on
and if that blade hit a rock and it's sparked
and there, you know, it's a whole other shot. So
my full intention was to water my lawn today, which
is what I'm currently doing. I just wanted to give
it a little touch up before that. So I was
just curious. I hadn't heard anything about not using a lawnmower,

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But what are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I haven't been told I can't use my lawn mower either,
And someone asked me about using gas power. It doesn't
matter how it's powered. The potential for a spark because
of a blade hitting a rock. Doesn't matter if it's battery,
electric or gas. So I'll get that out of the way.
I mean, I haven't been told them not a loud Now.
The use of water is a different conversation. Are do
you live in the city, Nick by Chance?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, I'm just in the west end, over by Barron Park.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
So there's a water conservational order in place here in
the city. So they're talking about very specific times of
day based on street numbers, even numbers Tuesdays and I
want to get this right, Tuesdays and Saturdays, odd number,
Thursday Sundays. You can only water between six and eight
am and eight and ten pm. And there's different rules
and different parts of the problem, different parts of the province.

(19:17):
Babe Roberts has different rules exception based South Torbay, Mount Pearl.
So yeah, that's the basics for Saint John. So there's
times when you're supposed to be allowed in other times
when we are not allowed. And the potential risk associated
with the lawnmar I haven't been told I'm not allowed
to do it now. My grass does seem to be
growing at all given the weather, you know, Yeah, neither.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Has mine there's just a couple of weeds on the lawn, right,
And you know, I haven't been told I can't do it.
I'm not a malicious person by nature, so literally thought
I was just trying to do the right thing for
the wife. But yeah, just curious, that's all.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Then, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Recall, just you know, ignites an interesting conversation again, you know, again,
don't take over the show with wildfire talk. But I
guess you know, it is a point for concern for
a lot of people. But I mean, you know, a
spark from a rock, that's something you see in a movie.
I think, so we kind of got to get a
bit more realistic and you know, maybe maybe not lose

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faith in a responsible neighbor either.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
You know, no, I'm with you. I completely understand where
you're coming from. I don't know how mighty that risk
might be, you know, when compared to other things like
flicking around lit cigarette butts and or the possibility for
glass to magnify on these smoldering brown patches of grass.
For that start, I understand some of these things, and
some of them are very real. But the lawnmower, I

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have been told that I'm not allowed to use mine. No,
you haven't told you not allowed to use yours, So
I get it. You know, there's that tricky, elusive balancing
act of doing reasonable things to reduce risk versus things
that may, indeed, as you say, be from the silver
screen not necessary early an actual risk that we need
to be hyper worried about. I know exactly where you're

(21:04):
coming from, but I'm glad you brought up the walk again.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
It's all personal responsibility at the end of the day.
And you know, I like to think I'm on the
side of the good guys at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, it sounds like it's me cool. I appreciate the
time again, No problem, buddy, Bet you too, Bye bye. Yeah.
I mean that's where things like managing these situations or
these crisis becomes. I use the word elusive because it
striking a balancing act. Look, number one, you're not going

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to be able to please everybody. It's not a thing.
It never will be a thing. So with people taking
their own personal strategy to ensure that things they do
are not the route cause or the spark that ignites
the fire, you know, things like using your law more
I don't I don't know if that's a big deal
or not. To be honest with you, like, what's the

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potential for that to actually cause the fire? It seems
low to me. How about you let's talk about it.
Let's go to line number two, eleanor you around the air,
Hello eleanor.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Good morning Patty, morning to you. Yes, yeah, the Wi
Fi seems like it's it's really stressful for everyone. And
Buddy probably do have a certain there with the grass.
But I want to talk about I got family that

(22:32):
is in a lift us afficted but the road closure
and on Batisbel Highway. They lift for an appointment in Vanya.
Well well two days ago, I guess, and to attend

(22:57):
to a medical appointment my sister had in Janua, a
specialist appointment. Be left to return home and made it
as far as Grandfalls and the road was closed. They're
and a lot more like them, because I've asked a

(23:17):
questioned her about this, are staying in hotels at their
own expense, buying their own meals at their own expense,
you know, And Ja've called the Red Cross. They can't
help them. See if we stay to their mha Elvis loveless.

(23:43):
They haven't gone back to them I mean, this is
two nights now in a hotel and someone say, well,
as big deal, this has to be paid for at
the end of the day when it comes to a
credit card or anything you had a pocket for whatever,
and any other locations. And I know they're not evacuated

(24:05):
to just caught in the cash twenty two. My question
is they've known for a better and I don't mean
my family, the people that's been running this for better
week now, even planning on after on this possibility the

(24:25):
world is going to close. People has been hearing that
for days, but at no time wor Steer a contingency
planned put in place for anybody that was using that
highway and couldn't access the Beata Speer Highway and got caught,
whether it's in Gann or band Falls or anywhere that

(24:48):
had anyone that had to go down that Beata Speer
Highway to their homes and their place of employment, et cetera.
There was nothing put in place to help those people
that is now stranding it. Well, my niece, my niece,

(25:09):
my sister, my brother in law, my nephew that's artistic
and they have a My niece has a two year
old toddler, just five of them staying in a hotel room.
She said, right now. I was talking to her while
I was waiting for you, like for my turn to gum.

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She said, it's like kind of rainy dampy shouted this morning.
And I said, yeah, but I said, even if we
have rain tomorrow, they're still not going to hope in
the highway the weekend. So you're looking at six number
of days being stuck in a hotel room. At your
own cast.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
You mentioned just one second, elder, you mentioned a contingency plan.
What would that look like? What does that actually mean?

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Well, I live here in to sit to myself. I
suggested coming back here, but then I thinking after well,
they don't want to come in here because of all
the smoke and everything else. But I mean, if they
came back to me and the hallway opened and we

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end up in evacuation alert, they can't leave for one
but when everywhere else is evacuated, and I know again
they're not evacuated the places that have been evacuated. Men,
they're asked not to go to their community and to

(26:44):
leave their community for safe reasons, just places provided for them,
whether it's a school or whatever. And I mean they
knew that there's people, whether it was Wednesday or Tuesday,
or Friday of last week or even today, do you
knew eventually the possibility to do that road was going
to close? I mean, how much Okay, even if the

(27:07):
packed an overnight day in case you got stuck, how
much are you supposed to take in the back of
your vehicle to keep you going? I mean, why was
you supposed to do pack a week's luggage?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Basically, yes, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
I mean they didn't know for sure it was going
to close, it was going for days. I'm just wondering
why isn't like a school or something like that open
up that the people could have somewhere to stay or
help them with like a meal or whatever. I mean,

(27:52):
I'm just wondering why there's nothing like this out there
for people like that.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I guess when as it pertains to the Canadian Red Cross,
I can't speak for them, but I will opine that
with so many people that are already displaced, with the
height of the tourism season, with the presidence of the
Canada Summer Games, there's very few places to put anybody.
So if they say because you are not an evacuee
that you can't get any help. It feels like a

(28:17):
hair split, but I guess it's just based on actual
supply of accommodations, rentals, airbnbs, or whatever the case we be.
There are a couple of shelters that have been set up.
I think I heard Mayor Darren Bent on the morning
show here on VFCM this morning talk about the so
called Mercy shelter they have set up, and very few
people have had to use it so far. So I'm

(28:37):
not sure what to tell you, eleanor they're stuck in
a bad situation. Even if someone says, well, you know
that's where I live. I got to get back in.
I can't afford to be in the hotel, what have you.
The unfortunate reality is for these roads that have been closed,
it would require someone, for say, for instance, in law
enforcement to accompany them back down the highway, which is
not really something that we have resources kicking around to

(28:59):
do this moment in time. So I feel bad for them,
but I don't know what the answer might be.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Same here, Like I mean, I'm not I'm not man,
I'm not blaming no one. I understand the situation, but
I'm just wondering why, at some point did someone say, well, okay,
we do know the world was going to close. Why
don't we have something like I stand by in case

(29:26):
to sit up for people that is stuck because of this.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's a fair question. I wouldn't know what the answer
might be or who should be responsible for. But I
understand their worry and your concerns.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
I am. I mean, like I gotta under they're I
do right now, Like, I mean, just five of them,
one of us a two year old, and my nephew
is artistic. In our hotel room, she says, there is
other people besides them in hotel rooms out there. Yeah,

(30:01):
and yeah, I understand. I mean, like I said, I
understand the situation, and I understand, well, all this is
going on, it's so too damned. But at the end
of the day, I mean, why can't someone step up
and say, well, bye, you know, okay, if you got
to pay your hotel room, or we can sit up
a few cots somewhere, or we could you know, here's

(30:23):
a place that you could come and get a cup
of tea or something other you know, or or.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Anything understood, And I appreciate your concern and your time,
and I feel bad for them, but I don't know
where who would be the person responsible for setting up
the things that you mentioned.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
I don't know, like I mean. And let's sit right
there right now, Grandfather's and.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I understand, my heart, it's a tough circumstance to deal
with because of extremely difficult circumstances that we're all facing.
Given the wildlife and give them the risk, and.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
We are in I'm not in an evacuation alert, but
I you know, I know that the possibility is coming
pot Okay, Eddy's fire keeps going. But at the same time,
like just a lot of inns that people like their stock,
I can't get back home because of it.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
There is yes, I understand, I do have to get going.
And as I'll say, with more time, I understand your concerned,
I understand their frustration. These are difficult times and people
are having to navigate difficult situations and where these solutions lie,
hopefully is with a drop of rain. But I appreciate
your time, elinor taking care of yourself. Thank you, You're welcome,
Bye bye all. I just got to break take away.

(31:50):
Welcome back. Let's go to line number three. Edgar you're
on the air. Hey, oh you're just morning doing okay,
how about you good?

Speaker 6 (32:00):
I just want to touch on cigarette butts. I'm after
seeing so many incidents in the last month or so
on people flicking cigarette butts, so driving behind him and
you could actually smell that they're smoking. Then you're expecting
at any time at all, but even come back and
hit the wind show. I'm after experiencing that and people

(32:23):
just giving it a flick, right.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
You know, it's interesting in that. I mean, people have
been doing that forever in a day. It is littering
and what is this dry as this? It is dangerous.
But I don't know if I ever really paid much
attention to it, or paid or gave it a whole
lot of notice. But since we've been talking about it,
just yesterday, coming out of the grocery store, Buddy coming
in and this was on the side of the parking

(32:47):
lot closer to where the residences are, so consequently close
to the lawn. He gets out of the car and
flick goes the smoke. And if that had to be
this time last year, I might not have even noticed.
But I was like, what are you doing? You know,
what do you doing?

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Noticed that I noticed it all the time. I do know,
even even this morning. I was in the A and
W this morning, got breakfast and a couple of guys
got out of a pickup. One guy took his cigarette
and flicked it in the flower bed before he came in.
You know, in that flower bed there's a dry back
and everything he puts there to keep keep the flowers. Yeah,

(33:23):
I mean you know, like, are they sinking or what?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
No, short answers. No, they're not thinking. I mean even
like we hear that the golf courses around the area,
they're telling their members and they're paying patrons. Not a
lot of smoke on the course. What because you might
start a fire. It's as simple as that. I mean,
it's not ready. Sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
Yeah, and Patty, I just want to touch on water bombers.
How many water bombers New Flammer, New Flann Labrador got four?
You sure?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Isn't there one down broke down or had crashed or something.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, it got damage back in twenty eighteen. That was
our fifth water bomber. So we're now down to far So.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Do we actually own them or yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And were you actually I.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Mean the square acreage or the square. The perimeter of
the Newfoundland is a big is pretty big place, and
there's a lot of trees New flands all trees and
water right pretty much. So, so I mean, didn't didn't

(34:34):
anybody in the federal government or in the government look
at buying a few water bombers because they knew this
was going to happen. I mean, everybody's talking about change
in the world, and I know the federal government, the
PM and federal government give all the money away for
the last few years getting people in here to go

(34:56):
to work and everything else. You think you would have
crossed mind to buy some water bombers. Yeah, we're very
endangered places right.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Fire services are provincial responsibility and there is lots of
talk out there now about role the federal government might
play on this kind of stuff, and justifiably and understandably so.
Now that fifth water bomber, the government has led a
contract Tod havelin Canada to repair it. Seventeen million dollars
worth of repairs that thing needs. Even if you wanted
to buy a new water bomber today, you're going to

(35:26):
have to wait until twenty thirty two, twenty thirty three.
I've been trying to find if there are other water
bomber manufacturers that elsewhere in the world and what their
way times look like. I'm having a hard time coming
up with that, but I've been saying since twenty eighteen,
if we ever thought we needed five and the fifth
got damaged, we should either replace it or repair it
right away, because it was inevitable that these things were

(35:47):
going to happen. And just think about the size of
the province new Flannel laborator is something like four hundred
and five thousand square kilometers. The boreal force of Canada
is about three hundred and seven the million hectors, So
we've got an awful lot of area to protect and
to manage, which I guess, realistically speaking, is not one

(36:08):
hundred percent even possible. But you know, plenty of questions
to be asked about fire suppression services. Even yesterday on
the show, I was talking about these Raptor helicopters and
what they might mean into the future, cheaper than the
water bomber and effective, what it might be for these
heavy lift drones that they're testing out in British Columbia
today that have, you know, a four hundred kilogram lift capacity,
so everything doesn't have to be water bomber, but we

(36:30):
should fill up the fire suppression infrastructure as best possible.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Yeah, well, I know, I know a couple of friends
of mine got drones and they put a fish hook
on the end of the drone and the drone locates
the cod face close to shore, drops the hook, the
fish gets on it, and the drags it in the shore.
They don't even grooten boat. That's how the technology has

(36:58):
gone now. I mean, the technology has gone way up
there now it is.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
And you know, just a friendly reminder for recreational drone
or drone hobbyists, just resist using your drone to get
video or pictures of the wildfires because you're not allowed
to do it. It's restricted airspace for water bombers. Another
registered aircraft edgar appreciate the time to concern.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Just one more reminder, one more little thing before you
can close off.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
Then.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
I like for people who twice I mentioned to a
guy history a better power saw. Yep, power saw don't
don't cause stars, he said. I said, I'll tell you what,
Let me give you something to try later on the night.
Tighten up your chain a little bit. That where he's
supposed to be tight and starting up your chainsaw grouped

(37:46):
my door because the fumes and open up your chainsaw
in the dark and you look at the sparks coming
at that chain.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Oh chainsaws run hot. Oh you absolutely, but.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
The spaks just the chain going around years and everything else.
The spect's actually coming out of it that you can't
see because you're using in the daytime, you're not using
in nighttime.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, I can say that you're one hundred percent right
as someone who ran a chainsaw for a job for
a couple of summers. The reason why our chaps were
black at the end of the summer was because of
exactly that. Exactly, Yeah, for sure, Edgar, appreciate the time.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Thank you, Okay, Patty, thank you, all right.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Bye bye, all right, let's get a break in when
we come back from Metro water conservation. Then you welcome
back to the program. Let's go in line five. Jeff,
you're on the air.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
Good morning, Patty, good morning.

Speaker 9 (38:39):
Before I get into my subject regarding water conservation in
the Metro area, I just wanted to send out gratitude,
respect and thanks to all firefighters volunteer full time and
their families and Red Cross volunteers and business owners who
are feeding people for free, and the list goes on

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on and on. I mean, the way people have stepped
up and mitigated this terrible situation. I just can't express
my deep gratitude.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I'm with you.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
I wanted to call in this morning. Well it was
Nick that really peaked my interest to call in. Nick
was talking about his molanie's lawn and his neighbor got
a bit irate with him for using the whipper snipper
and sparks and stuff. I think at this time everybody's
on high alert and so probably a neighborer's overreaction is

(39:40):
we got to have a little soft spot for it,
I think, and just take it and strive. But one
thing he did say was about he was about the
water is long. And then you spoke up about the
Metro water conservation policy, which he seemed to be unaware of.
And no disrespect Nick, but it hasn't been I would say,

(40:01):
widely promoted. So I thought we could get into it
a little.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Bit sure, I mean, just for starters. There's been a
year round water conservation order in the city of Saint
Johns's twenty twenty two.

Speaker 9 (40:14):
Yes, and before that time they had taken one of
the main water reservoirs, Patty Harbor Long Pond, out of operation,
and we ran into a couple of shortages for several
years in a row, and they stepped up and put
a treatment facility up around there, and now that water

(40:34):
reservoir is now online with our other two main water
reservoirs that stables Big Pond and Windsor Lake. So, like
you said, we have a generic water conservation policy year
round from year to year with no change for the
last several years. And really there's been no i would say,

(40:58):
big promotion of it and no enforcement of it up
to now.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Because the restrictions really aren't that tight anyway. You can
still water your lawn and water your garden, water your
flowers the only thing, and water and wash your car
all they say. And it's again kind of generic stuff
here is as long as the hose has a nozzle
at the end that can stop the water when you're
not using the water, it can go ahead. You know,
they recommend that you have a lawn watering at the

(41:26):
times and of the days that I mentioned. If you
have a brand newly installed lawn, you can water it
every single day for sixty days straight. So it's not
exactly over restrictive. It's just sort of a reminder that
water levels during these hot months, especially hot months like
the most recent stretch air is It's just a conservation order.

(41:46):
It's not a ban.

Speaker 9 (41:50):
Exactly, however, I will say, and you must have observed
this too. While people can use handheld nozzles at anytime,
sprinkler are restricted to very specific times early in the morning,
later in the evening opposite days, and then if you
have a new line you still have to observe those
specific times. But we can do it every day. However,

(42:14):
really nobody's observing that, Patty, and I would be surprised
if even half of anybody is aware of.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
It, which is interesting because it's been a year round
for quite a long time. Jeff, if you have a
bit more to say, can I put you on Holts.
I can get to the newscast on time of course. Okay,
let's do exactly that time for the news. Don't away,
welcome back to the show. So as per a variety
of emails and phone calls to Dave, absolutely the technical

(42:42):
connection of that live stream from the government's news conference
was dismal. So as much as many of you missed
a lot of their pertinent points being made, so did I.
So for those in the newsroom who were covering it live,
we'll see if they can stitch it together fill in
some of those blanks where the stream simply cut off
and the audio is gone. So I missed a lot
of it as well, So hopefully we'll get those blanks,

(43:02):
as I mentioned, filled in by the reps from the
news room. Let's keep going. Let's kind of lighting the
number one second more to the mayor of tor Bay.
That's Craig Scott. Mayor Scott, you're on the air.

Speaker 10 (43:13):
Hey Patty, good morning.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
How are you best? Kind? How about you?

Speaker 10 (43:16):
Too bad? I mean, I'm doing better in some it's
a hard old situation that many people have find themselves in.
So you know, let's uh, we got to just keep
I guess, keep fidgeling, make sure that we're following the
direction from the government, and everybody needs to watch what
they're doing. We don't want to know more of these
fires around our area. That's sure.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Some of the directions are pretty fundamental bits of common sense.
So too, thankfully is raining out. Mackinson's thankfully it is
raining and Bay Roberts. Someone else sent me a video
from another part of the province. So it's good news
that we're seeing a little bit of rain because we could.

Speaker 11 (43:50):
All use a drop absolutely.

Speaker 10 (43:53):
I mean, the more rain that we get, the better.
And I guess I wanted to talk a little bit
about our water band that we've been permitted into our
bay and our water supply nor pond is pretty low.
We implement we want to make sure that people are
following that and they realize that it's in place, because

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we do not want to get in a situation where
our water source gets too low and we lose water
to a town, or if we happen to, you know,
God forbid, we have to fight a fire in our
town that our fire department starts to draw down on
the pond, and that would be I think catastrophic for us.

(44:35):
So we've been talking with a fire apartment of the
plans to draw down and some additional ponds in the
area so that we don't put any additional strain on
our water supply. It's been a really dry summer, you know,
as everybody knows, and it's a horrible situation that we
find ourselves in.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, and I mean we didn't get very much now,
so consequently the spring runoff was minimal. I mean I
hear reports, you know, for instance, so much salmon angling bodies.
They talk about the fact that some of the rivers
that there were circumstances in the past where the water
was running too heavy and high and so consequently not
good for fishing. Now they say, thank your ankles wet.

Speaker 10 (45:12):
Absolutely. And I mean a good example of that is
in Torbay is to go out northside. We have these
two terfalls on the left hand side of the road
that people come by and take pictures of all the time,
and there's not even the drop of water running down
there now. So that's just a sign of the circumstance
we joined ourselves in.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
And I'm going to break it down to some of
the other communities that have water conservation orders and or
bands in place, just for the listening public. They might
be living in one of these communities and possibly not aware. Also,
is there other water related good news down to Torbay?
Let's you talk about storing mare Well.

Speaker 10 (45:46):
I guess there is.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
And since I guess the prefoss issue that's come to light,
we have secured some money from the fill of under
twenty six point eight million to help towards developing a
new water supply. Our hopes were always to connect to
the regional water sply that Portugal and Paradise and those

(46:12):
punicipalities are on, but that seems like to be a
long ways out. So we're going to develop our own
and we're in the process now of getting that agreement
settled and figured out, and hopefully we will be able
to increase SAR capacity in the town. For a bunch
of reasons. You know, we got a lot of development
that's held up.

Speaker 10 (46:32):
We have issues with people with contaminants in their wells
that you know, try support Canada has been working on
and if we have capacity, there will be an opportunity
to bring some municipal water to those people.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Excellent news. And the mayor mentioned p Fast. So while
we're talking about there are some of the wells that
have been contaminated based on some firefighting exercises at the
airport that that fall that was not cleaned up properly
made it into people's wells of course, has contaminated them.
Simply cannot drinking and those are forever chemicals as well.
I just want to fill in that blank for the
listener anything else while we got you this morning, bere Scott.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
Yeah, I think that now that why while we brought
that up. I think that this kind of caught us
off guard.

Speaker 10 (47:17):
With the PIFAs in the welds. We always knew that
there was it was in the area, but I guess
the big catalyst that that.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
Was when Held Canada over the guideline from six hundred
nineograms per lead down to thirty and that was a
huge drop and this is what precipitated all testing that's
been going on. So I want to tell people in
our count and we know.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
That it's expanded beyond the Pine Ridge subdivision right now
and it's down into last report I found out about
a week and a half ago, maybe that were down
as far as Man's Lane in Torbay. We have some
tests that were done by a private and we've asked

(48:02):
reached out to Transport Canada asked them to expand their
testing area. So if anybody is worried about that, they
need to they can reach out to the town and
we will give them resources to reach out to Transport
Canada to get that testing done. It's so important that
we can try and figure out and get our minds
around exactly where that area is. And you know, it's

(48:25):
scary for people to have contaminants in their wells, and
and of course the people know that private wells are
not under the jurisdiction of the town. This contaminant was
done by the federal government and they are working towards
a remedy. And you know, we as the town, we're
here to advocate on behalf of those residents and we

(48:46):
make sure we do that and if they have any questions,
they can reach out to the town. We will provide
them with the information to the federal government departments that
they need to talk to, and hopefully we'll see an
end to that situation sooner than later. You know, it's
probably going to take a while, but you know, we
just got to keep pushing and working on that.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Appreciate the updates. Morning Mare Scott, thanks a lot.

Speaker 10 (49:11):
Okay, thanks Patty.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Welcome by Bie there. You got some good and some
troubling news coming from Torbay on that front. I just
got you break take away. Welcome back to the show.
Let's go to light number two. Steve, you're on the air,
morning Betty, Good morning.

Speaker 12 (49:26):
Yeah, I just wanted to call in forre get too
my topic. They're glad to hear that the volunteer firefighters
are going to be getting compensated. I think, you know,
twenty twenty five, I hope that the day of the
word volunteer Florida Department is no longer soon in any
regardless of in your small community or medium community. You know,

(49:48):
everybody who's out there, you know, putting their laws on
the line. There should be nobody doing hev to do
that on a volunteer basis as far as I'm concerning.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, I don't know how we're going to arrive at
a place where small town fire halls can you have
the money on hand for paying the firefighters, even though
I believe they should, and I think it's an excellent
decision to compensate the quote unquote volunteer firefighters. It also
includes folks doing after burn clean up and stuff too,
so that's also great.

Speaker 12 (50:14):
Absolutely absolutely, I mean, listen, this is a priority. We'll
find money.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, no, r Some communities are having a hard time
even recruiting new volunteer firefighters, and we know that they
take it upon themselves to even raise money to buy
things like pupper trucks. So there's a lot left to
be decided here or discussed.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
Absolutely.

Speaker 12 (50:35):
In any case, I want to talk about a little
bit of big technology because you know I'm no color
folder myself, but you know, looking at technology and investment,
you know, from an investment perspective, you know, water bombers
are old technology, shorter, they can't be useful, but largely ineffective,

(50:55):
quite costly and as you can say, you know you
were mentioned earlier at the time author, these things can
take a decade or more, you know, I know, you
know right now there are a few companies that are
developing drone technology and using AI. And you know you
talked about AI on your show the other day about
application and you know, whether you're looking at companies like
Planet Labs or oor Tech or NASA firms which a

(51:18):
lot of people in their plan become familiar with over
the last week or so. You know, these are all
satellite you know, constellations that are powered by AI, and
you know they're tracking these these fires. You know, this
is software and AI and algorithms that are doing this thing.
And I think, you know, the next iteration or the
next phase of technology, and I think this is what

(51:40):
my point is is, you know, instead of taking you know,
billions of dollars for water bounders, let's look at you know, uh,
fire fighting drone technology, whether it's the fixed wing fixed
wing drones or the rot or drones. Uh. I know
there's a few companies out there now that are you know,
really doing well in the area. You know, they use
these bill phone based suppressions far a return and jails.

(52:02):
The barricade to far was claims to the vegetation for
days on liaked the water which just like evacorates quickly,
especially in hot water. So uh, you know, like this
is you know, winner's doing for prescribed burns and uh
stuff like that, or they're actually you know spraying Uh
all all of this could be done autonomously and if

(52:23):
you know, unfortunately to use a for use case. If
you look at the war and Russia Ukraine and just
in terms of the impact that drone technology has sort
of changed that landscape and and away from battle tanks
to you know, very inexpensive drone technology. I think there
should be something for the government to consider if they're

(52:43):
looking at, you know, what's the next phase of technology
to battle this because no doubt. You know, Joe high
weather is going to be around. And this is if
this is an issue this year, of probably you know
the issue last year, and you know, probably be an
issue next year.

Speaker 13 (52:59):
So absolutely just want to toss that utter for consideration
because you know, I know, we all go to water
bombers because that's the thing you know, you grow up,
you see in the sky. But if you know there
are other solutions outer that you can.

Speaker 10 (53:11):
Buy at scale.

Speaker 12 (53:14):
That are much more effective and efficient costwys and quality wars, no.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Doubt about it. That's specifically why I've been talking about
things like the fire wraptor helicopter, the heavy lift drones
that have been tested in BC this very minute, the
thunder wasps. Apparently they can lift some four hundred kilograms.
So three of these drones can replace pretty much a
medium sized water bomber. So and of course the expense
and of course the computer controlled artificial intelligence otherwise, So

(53:43):
we need to be bogged down with Havevlin's backlog, because
there's other supression tools that we can add to our toolbox.

Speaker 12 (53:49):
Exactly. And if you're think about a helicopter Parilt, I
mean a helicopter Polow can't over over smoke and for
for so long drone technology can be embedded within It
knows where hotspot is, It knowns how a fire can
get to and it can operate in smoke. It doesn't
have loans, it doesn't you know, you got we got
to take the human element out of this and look
at this from a technology in many case something to

(54:12):
two on yeah, and just.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
One more point on the fire raptor or helicopter. It
can actually operate at night, which is you know, vast
difference and other technologies that we've been using. But you're right,
the more human beings that we can get out of
harm's way, whether it be smoke and or fire and
or just the risk that comes with being in the
air over a fire, regardless if it's a water bomber helicopter. Otherwise,

(54:34):
adding those two their infrastructure or fire suppression has absolutely
got to be part of the conversation, no doubt. Yep,
love it, good man, Steve, Appreciate your time. You two
by I think he's something for that, right, which is
absolutely why we've said things like you know, let again
not going to be in the mood or don't have

(54:55):
the brain space to criticize what we have and who
we have currently fighting the fires, because they're doing everything
they humanly possibly can. It's just the you know, the
conversation when at some point, hopefully sooner than later, that
this dangerous prior to the wildfire season is behind us,
is how does that conversation sound into the future, Because

(55:18):
that's all I think Steve was trying to do, and
that's all I've been trying to do as well. Is
you know, we can talk about Manitoba and an eighty
million dollars down payment down three water bombers that they're
not going to get until the twenty thirty two or
twenty thirty three fire season. We can talk about priority
lists that to happening, all those types of things, but
there are other things out there, and I think Steve
makes a good point for most of us, including me,
If you think about firefighter how they fight wildfires, most

(55:43):
of us go to. Of course, there's ground crew and
the creation of fire breaks and all those things, but
by and large, we picture in our mind's eye a
water bomber scooping water out of the pond or the
lake or the ocean and then dump it on a fire.
And there's other ways to compliment that type of fire suppression.
Let's take a break. I want to come back, plenty
of time for you. The topic entirely up to you.

(56:03):
Don't go arect Welcome back to the program. Let's go
line number one. Good morning, Mazie, you're on the air. Yes, Atdie.

Speaker 14 (56:18):
This is my first time open line and the reason
I'm calling that I was really upset when I heard
John Agy talked about don't one that card in with
nasty comments about how far fares they're not doing a lot.
I think I agree with John Agaty. Their airsholts. They

(56:40):
don't appreciate anything. And as far as I'm concerned, people
like that should be living in pits. They don't deserve
to be in Luperland. The beanos with you, because Lupermanders
are not about that. Lu Fermanders look after each other
and they care for each other. And I'm just wondering

(57:00):
if those people are from Newfoundland or from other countries,
but they should be a shame of themselves. They probably
got no respect for themselves because the parian about what
those people are doing to save their lives and their
homes is unreal.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Look a couple of things, so I don't think it's
necessarily the proper way for the Minister of the Crown
to speak. I get his point, and I can tell
you from personal experience that some many or not if
not most, of the people that he's talking about have
come after me, guns blazing, many many, many times. They

(57:45):
are absolute menaces, some of them now people who want
to voice their concerns on public policy or government decisions.
Fair enough, but the way some of these people talk
is really is outrageous. And look, I try not to
complain about that kind of stuff on the air because
I'm not a silk. They can't hurt me. They can
do it and say whatever they like. But man or man,

(58:05):
some of the stuff I hear, it'll blow your mind
if it put the hair on the back of your
next standing up, just thinking, Really, that's how people talk,
and I'm telling you, yeah, it is.

Speaker 14 (58:15):
It's ridiculous. Obviously they forgot about the nine eleven o
everybody got together and alp and looked after all those
people that again at that time, they forget about the
good desk. But the minute something don't go their way,
they can get very very nasty and they should be

(58:38):
put in their place, you know. First, I'm concerned it
should be living intense that they got no more respect
than that.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I'm not going to argue that point because again and
not to reicherate unnecessarily, but some of the things that
I've heard some of those people say to others and
to me, it would absolutely blow your mind, Like my
email in is toxic, It's unbelievable. But say, I guess
that's part of what I signed up for, better, for

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better or worse.

Speaker 14 (59:08):
Yes, I know, I know, like my heart goes out
to autos Farman and all those people that's out there
trying to save their homes and trying to save us
and putting their life on the line. I mean, that's you.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Know, they certainly deserve a lot more respect and gratitude
than that, No doubt about it.

Speaker 14 (59:32):
They most certainly do. But I was upset for that
this morning when I heard it. I did agree with
John Agy. I said, you know, they are ourselves that
they don't you knows found out about that upon landers
trying to help each other no matter what.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Look, I know there's plenty of absolutely top quality, compassionate,
empathetic people out there, of course there is. But I
think you know, if we stand back. We want to
be completely honest with ourselves. Is it seems to me
that if you're a visitor or someone who's grounded here
during nine to eleven, we're kind of nicer and more

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open armed to people in those circumstances, then we might
be to ourselves sometimes. You know, there's a plenty of
nasty that goes on in and amongst the population of
the province. But you know, it's remarkable how we can
be so bright and cheery and accommodating and respectful and
compassion when we talk about someone who we might run
into on Water Street who's a visitor, you know, with

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the renowned hospitality of the people of the province. But
sometimes I think we'd be it'd be a good idea
to stand back, take a deep breath, and realize that maybe,
just maybe, given the fact that being kind doesn't cost
a bloody red scent, maybe a bit more of that
to our own sometimes.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
Exactly. I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
I appreciate the call. Anything else you want to say
this morning, No, I just.

Speaker 14 (01:00:54):
Want to say, you know, the all the farm I member,
those speaker they're working so hard. Hearts out to them,
and I think they're doing a good job. And like
I'm not directly involved with myself, my son lives in
that area, and I think they're doing the best again,

(01:01:17):
and so I just want my heart just protected them
and I just hope that the rain comes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
So me too. Thanks for your time this morning, Maze,
appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (01:01:29):
Okay, thank you, take.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Good care, bye bye, I just get you break tak away.
Welcome back to the show. All right, let's continue with
line number five. Good morning, Len Martin, you're on the air.

Speaker 11 (01:01:41):
Here's good morning, Patty.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
That's Kine. Thank you for asking. How about you?

Speaker 15 (01:01:45):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:01:45):
Pretty good. I just want to start off saying that
I'm a volunteer firefighter myself of the last thirty five years,
and I'm with the Sunny Side Fire Department and on
behalf of the town on Sunnyside and the fire department
are thoughts and prayers are going with our fellow firefighters
out there now. Unfortunately, I will say, is that only

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appears that in the time of need are we appreciated.
Otherwise we're not. And the reason I'm bringing this up
is I want especially mister Hogan, Premier Hogan Salary and
other premiers to understand one niches I'm bringing up currently.
I believe about five six years ago, Revenue Canada brought

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in a federal tax credit for volunteer search and rescue
and firefighters. Subsequent to that, Revenue Canada has put a
condition on it that certain number of hours had to
be training and meetings and all that, which is totally
at a whack because most of the volunteer firefighters are

(01:02:57):
what to call on call hours. Revenue candon game and said, no,
we don't accept on the on call hours being the
majority of the hours, which is totally hilarious when you
look at the fact that most lundtarire firefighters are on
call twenty four to seven. When they're home. A lot
of members are going away working. They got jobs in

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that opposite, they're not available, they're not available for regular
meetings and blah blah blah. So what I'd like, mister
Hogan and the other premiers, and this is right across Canada,
is to go to Revenue Canada and say, and by
the way, this is not legislation in law. This is
the rule of thumb. Revenue Canada is using and they're

(01:03:39):
disallowing that federal tax credits that people are putting in
along with the provincials. So I challenged him, not challenged them.
I'll show you that's the wrong word. I asked him
if they are sincere and I believe they are in
their appreciation of the volunteer firefighters and search and rescue

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that right across Canada. They go to Revenue Canada say,
eliminate this stupid rule. The only rule that should apply
is if you're a member in good standing with your department,
then you qualify for that tax credit, because it doesn't
make sense, especially if you're a paid firefighter then you're
on call certain hours, you can justify the call hours.

(01:04:24):
Unpaid volunteer, you're on call the whole time you're home,
you're attending your community. And in the case of our department,
we also have the jobs of life, so we also
respond to vehicle and medical emergencies. So and you have
members that are I will debate right now. Then on

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the front lines of these departments that are fighting these fires,
you have members that have had Revenue Canada disallowed federal
tax credit and privnter tax credit based on that stupid rule.
And it's an intern reputation. It's not a rule like
I said, it's not in the legislation. You can't find
it in the Income Tax Act. It's a guideline they're using.

(01:05:06):
So I'm asked some Premier Hogan and the rest of the
premiers because they did it a few years ago. Similar
for the fishermen when they were selling their assets and
we're being hit with these capital gains, and they all
went together and said, nope, we were on allow of
the fisherman and exemption. Well, I'm asking the premiers Newfland
and read across candidate, because this applies to all volunteer

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firefighters to get this off the books, and not only that,
make it retroactives, so that these volunteer firefighters can go
back and get the tax credits that they are entitled to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
No Argumentaire. Just briefly you mentioned capital gains. There was
a court rolling just yesterday where I think this. The
Canadian Taxpayers Federation took CRA to court because when we
saw the capital gains inclusion rate change proposal from the
federal government, it has never been legislated into law, but
CIRA was still trying to apply it. So the Taxpayers

(01:05:59):
Federation up incurdon one absolutely and.

Speaker 11 (01:06:02):
In case of this River Canada. They're assessing and this
allowed these credits. I'm a CPA by profession, so I went,
I can't find it in the act. There's no legislation
saying that you have to have so many hours in
meetings and blah blah blah. So I'm saying, look, how
about mister Hogan and the rest of premiers put the

(01:06:25):
money with them out is and go to the federal
government say get this off the books and allow these
people to go back and reclaim these credits. Now there's
a step part two to this. In twenty twenty four,
the federal government increased the federal tax exemption from three
thousand and six thousand by myself as owner Revenue Canada,

(01:06:48):
and they indicated that the provincial legislation followed the same.
It didn't because they came back to me and this
allowed my increase from three to six on the provincial
saying it's still three. So I'm asking Premier Hogan which
he can do to ensure that that legislation has passed
so that the volunteer of firefighters can go back and

(01:07:11):
get that additional three thousand exemption. Now you know there
are simple requests, but at least they'll show that these
people care and they really mean what they say when
they appreciate the services of volunteer firefighters, and not only
that all volunteers, because there's no point in my view

(01:07:34):
to come and say you're appreciated when you need it,
and otherwise to shut up and sit back there when
you're not. People have to understand that. Besides, was the
volunteer firefighters that are on the front lines and they
are doing the vulcal work, and God bless them that
outher fire departments are now on high alerts due to
the fact of the dangers in your area. There are

(01:07:55):
people who are canceling their holidays. There are people who
are not going away because want to make sure they're
home with their own departments, they have the staff on
hand for the situation that may occur. So sorry, no,
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
I didn't mean to interrupt. You know, right off the bat,
we appreciate at least I appreciate your commitment and dedication
for thirty five years as a volunteer firefighter. And when
we talk about even just so many fire departments around
the country who are so called volunteer, I mean it's
becoming a little bit more difficult to staff up the ranks.
So if there was incentives like these tax credits, which

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should absolutely be partner person with being a volunteer firefighter,
I couldn't agree with you more. Joe our pardon me,
Len anything else you'd like to say so before I
have to get to the news.

Speaker 11 (01:08:40):
No, just bottom line, thank you to everyone, and for
the older volunteers around the front lines. Understand that the
rest of the departments across news Land are behind you
regards to whenever supply equipment they need or whatever or
supplies because a lot of these guys are doing what
they call chap and run dur in the area that

(01:09:01):
becomes extreme, they have to chop their hoses and run.
So you know there are departments I know going around
clicking the equipment and all that work. Look, we're one
hundred percent behind you, and I appreciate it, mister Holgan
and anyone else. Here's what I had to say today.
We'll take this to heart and they can call me
if they want.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Absolutely, Lenn, I appreciate the time, Thanks for doing it.
Thank you, You're welcome. Bye bye. All right, let's get
to the news. When we go back plenty show left
for you. Don't away.

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Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Welcome back to the show. Let's go to Lene number
three and take them on to the general manager at
the Glenden And Golf Club. That's Steve Power. Good morning, Steve,
you're on.

Speaker 16 (01:09:50):
The air morning, Patty.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Thanks for taking with cal No problem to calling.

Speaker 16 (01:09:55):
In response to a caller yesterday, apparently the lady made
reference to a wedding being canceled at a Mount Pearl
golf course and tell me absolutely there's no other golf
courses around. She made reference to the course being closed
for the wildfire. I had to call in because, yeah,
we were closed yesterday because of smoke in the area.

(01:10:18):
Things like that. We're actually open for full business today.
We got a shotgun golf torn on the time site.
We've got two weddings this weekend, and I know my
food and beverage manager has been in contact with both
of those brides about the weddings and logistics and details
and neither one at any point requested to cancel or

(01:10:38):
ask for a refund. So I was a little taken
aback by the comments of the lady saying how they
were refused unless the lady was confused about where the
wedding actually is or something. I was a little taken aback.
And it's pretty important too.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
I know.

Speaker 16 (01:10:58):
At the end of the call, Patty, you made so
true of a statement like word of mouth is really
really big in Newfoundland Labrador, and after hearing those comments,
we just couldn't let that slide. Like we at no
point refused refunds or had discussions about cancelations. Communication has

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been good with the brides. The only way we are
closed is if an evacuation order is given. We're open
for business. There's lots of people playing golf, everybody's joined
the place, and yes it's stressful times for everyone, but
it's also stressful for businesses too. When a call like
that comes out and we have no way of defending ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Well do you do? And I'm glad you called today
to do exactly that. I mean. The reference she made
was that she was told that the wedding was being
canceled by Glenn Denning as opposed to them requesting a
cancelation or a postponement or whatever based on wildfires, are
smoke or anything else under the sun. So I'm glad
you're said in the record straight. So just to be clear,
there are no cancels and or refunds that have been

(01:12:01):
requested and refused. Absolutely good dear, good to know.

Speaker 16 (01:12:06):
And I know a few of like she kept referencing
in supporting the community, My goodness, we support our community
very well here the amount of donations that are given
to various groups looking for fundraisers, things like that free
space given it. We've got to put our track record
above anybody, and I know most businesses do their best

(01:12:27):
to help the community out at all time as well.
So I just had to address those comments. They were
very unfair. Perhaps the lady was confused, I don't know,
but I just want to set the record straight on that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
I'm glad you did so when it comes to and look,
I can attest to Glenn Denning and their generosity in
so far as you know free golf rounds for fundraisers
and those types of things, because I've been involved in
those fundraisers. So I can absolutely test to it when
it comes to things like refunds or booking space and
who knows what happens. I mean the broader, the groom

(01:12:59):
or the oh there are the broduct and fall sick.
I mean, there's so many things, wildfires, whatever it is.
How does the conversation sound when you or your food
and beverage manager are sitting down with a perspective client,
you know, and the booking is made and the discussion
reguiding refunds and the policy in place. Just walk us
through how you conduct those initial consultations and appointments.

Speaker 16 (01:13:19):
Sure, so for any big events such as the wedding,
there is a contract, and the contract is pretty detail
and there are clauses about cancelations, and I know our
food and beverage manager goes through that clause with each
and every bride and groom before contract is signed. I
know the number reference was a fourteen thousand dollars deposit.
My goodness, not a chance to I don't think you

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ever pay a fourteen thousand dollars deposits. Maybe if you're
buying a spaceship or something like that, but not for
the wedding business is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Not that good.

Speaker 16 (01:13:50):
It's a compared toive business. We do our best to
make sure people are happy. And for the most part,
I think ninety nine point nine percent of our brides
and grooms that get married here are very happy, and
as I'm sure they are everywhere else too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
And fair ball anything else on that front. Twelve we
have you is this.

Speaker 16 (01:14:08):
Morning, Steve No it's great, Patty, thank you for letting
me set the regards straight. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
In the world of golf, though with one less or
one fewer golf course in the area now with the
all bally Hailey closed, business wants to be pretty good
on the greens, are.

Speaker 16 (01:14:21):
They this year? Business has been incredible. People keep saying
that all the time, asking with the old course closing
it Really we didn't see that big of an uptake.
I think golf in general took a big uptake after COVID,
But the golf courses, I know, I can speak, I
can't speak for the other courses, but everybody, yes, indeed,
is very very busy and golf's a great game to

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come out and justin Dorty outdoors.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, well you couldn't get a tea time on the
South course at Valley yesterday, so I think all the
courses are experiencing the same brisk business. Good to have
you on the show, Steve, and hopefully those who heard
the call yesterday that might have had a ounce of
skepticism about doing business or do anything with Glenn Denning,
hopefully that has been dispelled and the record is now
set straight.

Speaker 16 (01:15:05):
Thank you very much, appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Welcome Steve, all the best. Okay, good bye, Steve Power,
the general manager at Bendenning. Let's take a break. John's
in the cutter. Talk about the most recent federal election.
What about it? We'll find out. Don't go away, welcome back.
Let's go to line number six. John here on the air.

Speaker 17 (01:15:21):
Hey, Patty, I just can't I want to know if
it's all right if I could change.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
My topic there you can talk about whatever you like.
You can talk about whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:15:30):
You like, all right, Patty, I'd like to talk about
the drug pom new Flann Labrador.

Speaker 18 (01:15:35):
All right, ye, all right, Well it all starts out
a couple of months ago there when uh my buddy
Jackson Winder, he uh I get you bought some counterpit
pills and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Like, hello, what's going on here?

Speaker 8 (01:15:55):
Dave?

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
With that that connection? Okay, let's go back out and
see your John on six John, you're back on the air.

Speaker 17 (01:16:03):
Oh okay, well, my buddy, they're all If I can't
use names on the air, I'll use initials.

Speaker 8 (01:16:10):
That's all right, just.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Say your buddies, okay, your buddy.

Speaker 17 (01:16:13):
Well, my buddy, I guess you bought like baker counterfeit
pills and uh like it's been really bad for him lately,
like his uh, I guess his uh genitalia has been
uh acting up.

Speaker 8 (01:16:29):
I'm sorry, it's a big graphic there, Paddy, But so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Are these the pills that are being sold on the
streets saying that there's nanex but they're not those those
fake pills.

Speaker 17 (01:16:39):
I'm not sure you left as can, Paddy. Okay, genitalia
has been acting up quite a bit, and like he said,
it's gotten really really big and it's really gruel.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Okay, So do you want to talk about the drug
problem generically or your buddy's genitalia.

Speaker 17 (01:16:58):
No, Like, it's it's pretty bad at Patty, like.

Speaker 8 (01:17:01):
Like the petanyl and stuff like. Yeah, it's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
It's no question, and we've got to do some I
was gonna say something, we have to do more about it.
There's obviously, you know, whether it be awareness and policing
and expanding the opportunities for detox and rehab. I think,
you know, we have to do all at the same time.
It's not you know, tick one box, move onto the
next box. We've got to tick a bunch of boxes

(01:17:25):
at the exact same time. So it's bad, and so
is your buddy. I'm not trying to be mean spirited here.
So your buddy has an addiction that he's fueling with.

Speaker 17 (01:17:37):
I'd more say he was like curious and honestly probably.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So I mean it happens to so
many different people, men and women, different socioeconomic reality. So
it's a big problem right across the country. I would
suggest John, I am really curious though, and you can
say whatever you want about the drug epidemic in the country,
but I was also really curious why you had to
say about the federal election. It peaked my interest.

Speaker 19 (01:18:03):
Oh you know, like Peter pal yeah, back attacks all that, okay,
and anything in particular about that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:17):
I just wanted to say, go blue, fair enough, We'll
see what I So, I guess it's Monday, is the
by election out in Battle River Crowfoot where Damien Couric,
the Tory who won that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
The CPC member who won that won applied with like
eighty two percent of the vote. So there's no reason
to think, mister body, I won't win it this time around.
So we'll find out Monday night. I suppose, Yeah, I
suppose so, Patty, Yeah, appreciate the times, Fornie John, anything
else before we say goodbye? H love you, love you
two pal take care all right by bye? There we go. Uh,

(01:18:54):
just go to line number one. Leo, you're on the
air today doing okay, pretty good?

Speaker 20 (01:19:02):
Teddy listen. I just thought I had to give you
a call. I just came from Torbay Road area on
the Outer Ring Road, and I was traveling behind this vehicle.
I could see the person in the vehicle was smoking
because it could see smoke to me at the driver's window,
and I had a suspicion that he was going to
throw his cigarette butt out. Sure enough, we get on

(01:19:23):
the Outer Ring Road. They're at Torbay at the ramp
from Torbay Road. We're coming west and between between Torbay
Road and Portrayal of Cold Road. Lo, and behold, how
comes the cigarette butt? Now, Paddy, we all know in
this province. What kind of state we're in right now?
Everything is so dry. But and here's it was a

(01:19:43):
gentleman driving. I got a good description of the vehicle.
I got his plate number as well. It was a small,
fairly new, probably twenty twenty five Toyota CHR. It's a
kind of red in color. And like I say, I
do have his plate number, and I'm going to be
reporting it to the police. Hopefully they will follow up
on it, because you know, we all know the dangers

(01:20:04):
and some people just don't seem to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
No, they either don't get it, don't care, or accombination
of the two.

Speaker 20 (01:20:13):
Yeah, that segreate butt. He was in the right lane,
so not that far from the age of the road.
It's only a matter now that segregate butt blows out
into the grass by the age of the road, and
we could have another fire on our range.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Absolutely, there's a distinct risk. And again, you know, people
have always known better. And but's and like I mentioned
to Coler earlier, I've been seeing people throw cigarette butts
out car windows and on the ground forever in a
day because so many people do it. But I don't
think I really noticed all that much or didn't pay
much attention to it. But now, like everyone else, you know,

(01:20:50):
we're just kind of hyper focused on things that can
indeed be risky. So now I notice it all the time.

Speaker 20 (01:20:57):
Well, I mean, it's not the right thing to do, period,
you know. I mean, if you're going to smoke in
your vehicle, I don't think any of the newer vehicles
have ash trays these days. But if you're going to
smoke in your vehicle, then have something in your vehicle
to put your sigarette butt into, you know, a bottle
with some water in it or something something as simple
as that. Right, But you know, you know what I
mean it's not the right thing to do is littering anyway.

Speaker 10 (01:21:20):
But I mean, you.

Speaker 20 (01:21:21):
Know, with the fire as the way it is now,
everything's so dry, tender dry, like you say, I mean,
the grass is like straw. It doesn't take much to
start a fire. So I mean, yeah, it's not the
right thing to do at any time, no matter what.
But if you've got a rainstorm on and you throw
your segarette but out there's you know, the chances there
are not much is going to happen. But on a

(01:21:42):
day like today. YouTube very well start a fire, and people,
I mean, come on, you know, let's get with it.
We all got to do our part. And showing your
cigarette but out the window is not doing your part.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
No, it's not doing your part. You could be part
of the problem.

Speaker 20 (01:21:59):
More like it, Well, exactly, you are part of the problem,
no question about it. Like, let's hope that that cigarette
but it doesn't start a fire. But you know, if
we get a fire down there by the Old Ring
Road between Torbay Road and Portugal Road, we got a likely,
we got a likely, good idea what the source may be,

(01:22:19):
and I got a plate number.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
I don't know what's going to happen as a result
about making that report, but fair enough if you're going
to file it. And I kind of feel like I'm
a bit worn out reminding people not to throw their
cigarette butts around. But unfortunately that's where we are. It
doesn't seem to matter what anybody says, because people keep
doing it.

Speaker 20 (01:22:38):
I know, Paddy, It's it's just unreal. It just makes
no sense. And you know, everyone where where all everyone
is stressed about the fire conditions. You know, I live here,
not far from paradise. You know, I'm not that far
from the far during Patty's pond and a matter of fact,
I'm that close. I can open my windows, you know,

(01:22:59):
in the evening time because of the smell of smoke
or on certain occasions depending on the wind. But you know,
I mean, I'm sure everyone is stressed. I mean, look
look at the damage that's done out in Conception Bay, Nord.
I mean we're looking at you know, according to the premiere,
one hundred and more structures gone. And you know we
and mean we don't know. The resources are tapped out now,
we don't have the resources to fight another far. So

(01:23:21):
everyone's got to do your part, you know, I mean,
and showing your segarette but at the window. I'll say
it again, it's not it's being innately, it's been it's
being irresponsible, you know. And you know, so if you're
a smoker and you're driving and you're smoking, please have
something in your vehicle to put your cigarette butt in.
Don't go your sigarette but out the window.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Pragmatic advice. I appreciate the time. Thanks for doing the leo.

Speaker 20 (01:23:45):
Okay, Patty, thank you, take care and have a great
day you too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Bye bye. All about But yeah, I mean there's anyway,
let's go to the news. I want to come back still.
Plenty of time for you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Tim Power Show showing the conversation weekday afternoon at four
pm on your VOCM.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Welcome back to the show. Let's go to line number three. Noreen,
you're on the air.

Speaker 21 (01:24:08):
Good morning, Patty. I called a few days ago after
hearing a gentleman speak of the cadet, the cadets, how
it's not been found and the same anymore, And immediately
I thought about the Signal Hill tattoo. We haven't had
it since since COVID, right, it's been not started up again,

(01:24:28):
and I think it's great loss to the province and
to the kids. Unemployment for the kids, employment for the kids,
you know, and for tourist attraction.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
In the proference.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
It was super popular, yes, exactly.

Speaker 21 (01:24:43):
Yeah, And I had my son, my oldest son, he
worked with the Signal Hill Tattoo for a few years
and you know, it was a great opportunity for him
and all the other kids. Was the cadets and everything
they went, you know, they could just go on into yes,
had their interviews and everything anyone on into the tattoo.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
So yeah, and Tom just imagine being in those tattoo
uniforms yesterday.

Speaker 21 (01:25:10):
Yes, it would be very warm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Now you'll know more about it than I do. So
I know it's been disbanded for the stage performance since
since twenty nineteen. But are they still available for special
events or special performances or are they simply gone by
the wayside in full?

Speaker 21 (01:25:28):
Well, I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I inquired
last summer and that's what I have been told that
it hasn't started up since the tattoo or since the COVID,
So I'm not one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Yeah, who would have been in charge of the tattoo?
Would that have fallen under the purview of the Royal
Flan Regiment or do you happen to.

Speaker 21 (01:25:47):
Know yes, the regiment Joe, Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Know people involved with the Royal New Flan Regiment. I'm
just going to drop a note and ask them about
status of the tattoo and is there any thoughts to
bringing it back or are they still do events or what?
Because now you've got me curious.

Speaker 21 (01:26:02):
Yes, and I think it should come back. You know,
it was a great opportunity for the kids, as I said, also,
it was you know discipline, and it was it was
same place for them to be in the summertime to
work and great experience for them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
So now that you've mentioned it, I mean just about
every time we had friends visiting, we take them to
see the tattoo. And it also reminds me of that
foolish fence that they put up at that time alongside
the interpretation center up on Signal Hill.

Speaker 21 (01:26:29):
Yes, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Anyway, I will chase this a little bit see what
I can find out.

Speaker 21 (01:26:34):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Thank you, You're welcome to reen. Thanks for calling.

Speaker 21 (01:26:37):
Okay, bye right, bodbye.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Fair question, what did happen to the tattoo? Because me
and I know there's all sorts of disruptions at the
beginning and during the throes of the pandemic. But now
that we are where we are, is the conversation surrounding
reinstating the Signal Hill tattoo on? Because I think she
makes excellent points. It was a good opportunity for young
people to be involved in the tattoo. It was absolutely

(01:27:02):
a tourist attraction, no question about it. Every time that
I had seen in action, and it was a bit
fun to watch. Even if you've seen it several times.
It was generally big crowd on hand, and I'm sure
just about every concierge at every hotel or Airbnb host,
you know, when asked things you could do, Signal Hill
is always on the list, and I would imagine many
say you can also take in the tattoo performances, and

(01:27:24):
then of course the firing of the new gun, which
I think still happens pretty sure. Anyway, let's go line
number one. Walter, You're on the air. Walter, Hi, Walter
one number one, You're on the air. Hello, Hello, Hello, Dave,

(01:27:47):
can you click it? I've got to click his best
I can out here. Hello, Yeah, I'm gonna put him
on hold, Dave, can you try to figure that out?
Walter's talking about that too, maybe has some answers I know,
Like I mentioned too, Noreen, I do know some people
that are involved with the Royal New Flannel Regiment, both
as current members and past members, and I can probably

(01:28:09):
think of the right person to go to to see
if there's any sort of information we could find out
about that. You know, again, we'll bring up certain topics
off the top of the show that may be of
interest to some or maybe not too many, but little
things like that that are you know, maybe niche concerns
or niche questions. We're happy to feel those. So that's interesting.
Let's see if we can get something on and go

(01:28:31):
on one Sean you're on.

Speaker 15 (01:28:32):
The air, yes, Fie, just to agree with the tattoo.
It was fabulous. I was up there last week, but
two you're a good friends came.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
In a group of chests.

Speaker 15 (01:28:43):
I picked them up and.

Speaker 20 (01:28:44):
Went up to say go hell.

Speaker 15 (01:28:45):
We went into a new plant chocolate company, had a
nice coffee and a couple of very interesting new lights
that they did, and we set out, as did many
other tourist I mean watched the tattoo or form for
at least an hour and a half or an hour
minutes and very entertaining.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
So I don't know what happened.

Speaker 15 (01:29:04):
I don't think the lady is aware of that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
So wait, now the tattoo is performing.

Speaker 15 (01:29:11):
Absolutely, it was fabulous.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
When did they get back in action? I wonder, because
I do know that a few years ago when we
were up on Settle Hill doing the tourist thing with
our friends, they weren't performing at that time, So I
just wondered when they came back because that's good news.

Speaker 15 (01:29:26):
Though I don't know, but it was great performance as always,
and I was so sickle to be able to bring
my friends up and then give them a history lesson that.
You know, we have the English there now, the French
were there, the Stelish are there for after that, showing
them a few of the old houses going back to
the seventeen or eighteen hundreds, and they really enjoyed their
time up there. They were thrilled to get up to

(01:29:48):
the very top of Kaba Tower too. In that little
tiny they get to siege very top of it, be
going on on a balcony and looking out over the
whole city. It's the best you in the whole city,
which which.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Is exactly why that fence was such a bad idea.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
But fair enough, Sean. I appreciate the updated information. Thanks
a lot.

Speaker 15 (01:30:20):
Oh, I got one more thing to say all. I
had occasion to visit the emergency room with the health
science Probabier in the week kind about two in the morning,
and the smoke was unbelievable inside. It was really bad outside.
But I was surprised that the entire building and staff

(01:30:40):
were complaining for like the whole day. They were really
having trouble sparely. But you know, if you're in there
for for a visit for long issues, or you're not
in there for long issues you have other issues, you
will have coughing going on by the time you leave.
Because it was soul thick in the building everywhere in
the building, didn't matter where you went.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
There was a.

Speaker 15 (01:30:59):
Small down the cafeteria, in the main arteries of the hospital.
So I'm going to suggest that maybe you want to
give a call to the hierarchy of the cell science
and see what went wrong with their ventilation system. And
there is a thing called the area is very very
high excellent system.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
The connection is that more strong? Yeah, shout it. Unfortunately
the connection is terrible. They're cutting in and out. But
I think I got the gist of all the concerns.
What I will say is is that we learned a
bunch of stuff about air quality during the pandemic, and
you know, the government, whether it be in hospitals or
schools or any other public buildings, really do need to

(01:31:46):
think a little bit harder about air ventilation because it's
not just about COVID, it's just about air quality. We
know that air quality can compromise people's self report. Air
quality can compromise people's health. So just doing a better
job on ventilation period is a really good idea into
the future. And even in the private sector, proper ventilation
goes along with your staff not calling in, with the
respiratory illness of the day and missing work. So there's

(01:32:09):
a lot of the conversation can happen around that topic
anything else while we have you set.

Speaker 15 (01:32:14):
Yeah, like, I hope you can hear me now. So
so the triage nurse she was coughing. The people in
the waiting room were all coughing, and they were there
with other issues, and it was awful to watch. And
I tried to the first of the hostel, like I said,
the cafeteria in other places, and you couldn't get away
from it. And staff at the cafeteria was saying, I
don't know how long we're going to exists here today

(01:32:34):
because it's just a whole thick it was. It was amazing.
So there is an airyot system that the province put
in all the schools and all the plassrooms across the
province several years ago. You're right with with cold happened
to very rough to take that smoke out of the air.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
It was awful, absolutely. I spent about three and a
half hours outside yesterday afternoon, roasting but having a good time.
And my eyes were were stinging and blood red when
I got out of there. And it wasn't because of
weed or anything else. It was because of the smoke.

Speaker 15 (01:33:06):
Yeah, but imagine inside the hospital with staff and patients
suffering from other issues. It was really terrible. So I
hope you can get someone on to explain it and
they and are they doing anything about it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
I will give it a shot and I appreciate the time. Sean,
thank you you too, man, Bye bye. All right, before
we get to the break, we're going to take doug
on three doug around the air.

Speaker 15 (01:33:31):
How are you doing?

Speaker 20 (01:33:32):
Patty?

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Fine? Thank you? How about you?

Speaker 8 (01:33:35):
Not too bad?

Speaker 15 (01:33:36):
I was just wondering if you could tell me if
the highway is opened by Patty's time to go out
over the highway.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
You can go out to the Ottering road. I think the
diversion is from the clover leaf at Galway to the
Fox Trot access road. That's the only clothes you're on'n
familiar with, right Dave. Yeah, So I'll put it this way.
I'm going to put you on hold. I'll confirmed in
the newsroom because things are changing very quickly, and before

(01:34:04):
the break is over, I'll come back and meet or
Dave will give you the info. How's that? I appreciate it,
No problem, dogs on hold, will take a break, don't
go away. Welcome back to the show. Let's go to
line number two. Chris, you're on the air. Hello Chris
online number two.

Speaker 8 (01:34:25):
You are on the air, Patty, how are they say
it couldn't be better?

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
How about you?

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
So many topics to talk about, Patty looks so little time,
and like col days, ask him a why your show
is we being on in the nighttime? Which is kind
of size. We had three shows at one time, now
we're down to one. So can you give me an
explanation as to why they're not having your show on
in the nighttime?

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
I can. I asked that question of the management this
morning myself, because to be honest with you, I didn't
even know that it had not been on this week
in the evenings. But here's what I was told. Because
of information that might have been shared that was accuate
in the morning, it might not longer be accuate in
the evening, so that's updates on wildfires and traffic advisors next.

(01:35:10):
That's what I was told, but I only heard about
it myself this morning via email.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Okay, will you tell them that we had internet now?
So it's just a lot of cups of the button
and most people can find out what's going to go
hourly by hourly. But Paddy Dave said to me with
sending outs, I had to discuss and now that there
putting the memorial drives. You know those dividers, So it's

(01:35:38):
concrete dividers that go between the bridges.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
I think they need to be paid over. Some of
them are paid over, but a lot of them not
in them. When your vehicle hits Dombudy, it shakes the funting.
I'm after getting a couple of front wheel alignments in
the last few years, and I think that's probably the reason.
And people should just slow down down when they're going
over those bridges and let their vehicles feel the impact

(01:36:04):
of that concrete divider. I really think it needs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
To be a dress penny, but I'm not one hundred
percent sure what you mean. So someone should purposely run
into the concrete parator to see what it feels like.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
No, no, no, no. You know when you're going over
the over the highway, like there's a concrete divider, you know,
and a bit of steel going between the bridges so
far you'll notice when you go out save the pitslum
oil driver, or if you're coming into go to the
university on that bridge, you'll see the concrete the next

(01:36:39):
time you drive over it. Okay, if some people do
slow down to over these concrete dividers because they're really
rough on the vehicles. So that you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
You're talking about the joints on the road under your tires.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Well, you know, you know those those things said that
I don't know what you could call him, only the farther.
So there's just so many of them goes across every
bridge to support the bridge.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
They're called expansion joints. Yeah, and they can rattled the vehicle.
Like when I used to drive a pickup truck, you
actually had to hold on tight because by the time
the back tars went over with a bit of a
wiggle in the truck.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Yeah, I think it really needs to address. But do
I have a couple of minutes to tell you this
fast story. When I was driving a taxi. Sure, okay,
this guy said to me one time, he said, do
you know Tabby you're driving now? And I said no,
so it could be. So you just called himself. I
said I would know, and he said, would you believe
is Bill Gates? In two thy fourteen, I drove Bill

(01:37:39):
Gates down to the Dot the hotel. He came here
to play an eighteen year old kid who loved playing chess,
and the eighteen year old kid ben him. He used
to play on online and he couldn't beat him on mind,
so he made a special strip here. So I told him,

(01:38:00):
I said, if there was anybody going to drive someone
like you said it beneath you asked me why and
I said, you got to that MORI got. I said,
you guys share it up in the world, I said,
before you leave this world, I said, because there's a
purpose behind everything. And he asked me how and I said, well,
my friend, I said, go to Africa, I said, and
actually some of those people around there, I said, from

(01:38:23):
some of the germs center are a team laden over
over the time, and that's what he'd done. And I
remember shortly asked that he donated so many billions and
then there was a king in Egypt donated so many
billions at the same time. Well, that's pretty incredible story,
isn't it, Bunny.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Yeah, and that Rick Mercer and the malaria nets. I'll
give him two. So Chris very quickly. I actually saw
Bill Gates up close and personal. Didn't meet him. He
was a guest at the hotel that I was working
out at the time. Uh So with for starters, it's
kind of a rising that Bill Gates didn't have a
car service versus just went out front of the airport

(01:39:03):
hopped in the hack.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Yeah, the insurprise, but we just wanted to show up
like and weren't very god and that one done with
him quite well. And you know, uh, Belle, it was
a real gentleman, Teddy. Uh uh. You know, it's just
like talking to me, you my friend, and I think,
you know, if somebody reached out to Bill for an

(01:39:26):
investment in a tone going across the Bell Island straight
and probably years later probably come under niche send any
and go right down through the Iron Peninsula, right down
to Saint John's. You know, That's that's my belief that
can be done. But I really think we need people

(01:39:47):
like Bill, and I hope you this and because uh,
you know, I did tell him that I was going
to call the open line about this one time, and
and I told him that I was out to have
been around from politics. And he's answer, got elected and
that's time to happen. Never did get home after Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Got a question. I got a question for you. How
much did he tip you for the ride?

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
He tipped me twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Bucks at the bad All right, appreciate the call, Chris,
thanks a lot, Bye bye, uh Bill Gates in the
back of the cab. All right. I was in a
cab in Bermuda one time, and this cab he had
people who I guess he considered famous to autograph the uh,

(01:40:39):
the ceiling inside his cab driving the autograph right above me,
Michael Jordan and right alongside Dennis Robin. That's kind of
a weird combo, although they both played for the Bulls
won those world championships together. All right, pretty good show today,
Big thanks to all has to support the program, all
of the callers, listeners, emailers, tweeters. You're all right, we
will indeed pick up this conversation again. Tomorrow morning, right

(01:41:01):
here on VOCM and Big Land of FM's Open Line
on behalf of the producer David Williams. I'm your host,
Patty Daily. Have yourself a safe, fun happy day. We'll
talk in the morning. Bye bye

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