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December 12, 2024 36 mins

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Daniel J Lewis discusses his platform Podgagement, which helps podcasters track audience engagement through ratings, reviews, and voice messages. He explains how the platform allows listeners to record audio feedback that podcasters can use in their shows, creating a deeper connection with their audience. The system also tracks podcast rankings across 34,000 charts from different regions and genres, updating in real-time.

The conversation delves into Spotify's strategy with podcast analytics companies, with Lewis suggesting that Spotify acquired these companies primarily for user tracking and data collection, but later shut them down due to profitability concerns. He argues that Spotify prioritizes its closed ecosystem over supporting open podcasting standards, contrasting this with Apple's occasional engagement with the Podcasting 2.0 community.

Lewis shares his vision for Podgagement's future, including plans for SEO features and AI-powered analytics. As a podcaster-turned-developer, he emphasizes building features that serve real podcaster needs rather than tracking audience behavior across the internet. He also reveals a unique feature that allows users to watch podcast charts change in real-time, which he describes as "podcasting cocaine."

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