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May 19, 2025 68 mins
Sarah talks with Gage and Olivia as they share their journey into the world of non-monogamy and swinging, discussing how they became pioneers in promoting this lifestyle on social media. They delve into their personal experiences, from the initial conversations that sparked their interest in swinging to the launch of their app, Swing Up, which has quickly become the UK's largest social media and dating platform for couples and singles. The couple emphasizes the importance of communication, boundaries, and safety in the swinging lifestyle, while also addressing the misconceptions and taboos surrounding it. They reflect on their own relationship dynamics, the challenges they've faced, and the positive impact they've had on others by normalizing open discussions about sex and relationships. With insights into parenting in a sex-positive household and the significance of emotional connections, this episode offers a candid look at the complexities and joys of non-monogamous living. KEY TAKEAWAYS Journey into Non-Monogamy: Gage and Olivia began promoting non-monogamy on social media four years ago, leading to the creation of their app, Swing Up, which has become the UK's largest social media and dating app for couples and singles. Communication is Key: They emphasize the importance of open communication in their relationship and within the swinging lifestyle. Discussing boundaries and desires is crucial to ensure a positive experience and to avoid misunderstandings. Sexual Education and Positivity: They raise their children in a sex-positive household, focusing on educating them about consent, respect, and healthy relationships. They believe in normalizing conversations about sex and relationships to foster a better understanding. Safety in the Lifestyle: The couple has implemented safety features in their app, including user verification and partnerships with organizations to ensure a secure environment for users. They prioritize safety and aim to create a trustworthy platform for those exploring the swinging lifestyle. Misconceptions about Swinging: Gage and Olivia address the common misconceptions surrounding swinging, highlighting that it is not a solution for troubled relationships. They stress that a strong foundation and good communication are essential for swinging to be a positive experience. BEST MOMENTS "We decided to post that first post and we were like, nobody will watch these. We just want to educate people and make this taboo subject more normalized." - Gage "It all came from desperation really, didn't it? Being made redundant, losing your job, brand new house." - Olivia "If you think about talking about sex, it's one of the hardest things you can talk about. It's so private to you." - Gage "Swinging will work if your relationship is super strong and concrete and you've got the communication right." - Olivia "We always say sex isn't a shameful thing, it's a celebrated thing; it should be." - Gage SOCIAL LINKS https://www.tiktok.com/@provocateurspodcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPmCQvMWLaLTayKshPyGOEg ABOUT THE HOST Sarah Moxom is the ultimate powerhouse—an accomplished serial entrepreneur, seasoned investor, and master of navigating the human connection. At just nineteen, she founded her first company, a thriving temporary staffing agency, which she has successfully led for over two decades. With a remarkable ability to blend business acumen with emotional intelligence, Sarah is passionate about exploring the intricate interplay of entrepreneurship, relationship dynamics, people skills, and leadership. Her wealth of experience and sharp insights into human behaviour make her a compelling guide through the challenges of life and business. Whether you’re looking to sharpen your communication skills, build stronger relationships, or take your ventures to the next level, Sarah is here to inspire and empower you every step of the way. https://sarahmoxom.co.uk/
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