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Special Teams Coordinator Chris Horton, Defensive Coordinator Zach Orr, and Offensive Coordinator Todd Monken speak with the media after training camp practice on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Press Past podcast. It's Tuesday, August twelfth,
and today the Ravens coordinators addressed the media after morning practice.
First up, you'll hear from special teams coordinator Chris Horton
as he talks about the special teams play from the
first preseason game.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good to see everyone today. I hope everyone's doing well,
staying cool. It was a nice, nice, warm day to day.
Just looking back the quick recap of the game. You know,
I thought our guys came out, played hard, they played physical.
The effort was good, and the execution was Some spots
were really good. Some spots we want to continue to
chase that perfection and the details of our work, but

(00:39):
we're just looking forward to Dallas. A lot of guys played,
and a lot of guys came out this week to
get better at the things that we might not have
done so well in the game.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Questions, good questions, very impressive.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
How he was feel is that having a young guy
be that aggressed? Sure, you know, Jase, I don't think
it's it's him being it's him being aggressive. I think
it's him making decisions on the fly. Right that first one,
it was a short ball. He obviously checked outside and
realized that the gunners were nowhere close to him and
he had an opportunity to fill that ball and get vertical.

(01:16):
You know, those are the things that we saw on
his college tape. A young guy that can cleanly fill
the ball and that is not afraid to catch the
ball in traffic. I do believe if someone was in
his face and he needed to use the fair catch,
he would have done that. But I love everything he
did in the game, and obviously the next play was
even it was even better right the touchdown, Here's a
here's a kid. We talk about just being able to

(01:38):
fill the ball first and then everything after that is
a plus. He has all the after the catchability and
he showed that on that second rep.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Chris, you know, must be gratifying to see some of
that college stuff that you've seen on tape.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Come the opening round the.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Ball game, and he feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Dante could be just a dynamic difference maker. View you
guys in the DAD this year.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You know, I just think Tay's got to come out
and continue to do what he's what he's done in college,
what he's done his entire career, and as a part returner,
the thing we you know, I stress a lot, man.
It's about filling the ball. It's about you know, making
the right decisions. And here's a guy that in college
he did that. He made the right decisions and uh
and those things will those players will pay off because
the other the other ten guys that are on the

(02:22):
field are going to do their job and block form
and make sure that we get those yards.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
John said that.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Tyler is fortius off the yard. Want to miss that
he might have stubbed his toe. Just curious what you
saw on film.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Going back and look at that.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Game, I saw the exact same thing. You know, I
just tried to reach forward and is uh the kick
foot hit the ground before the ball. He just kind
of missed it. But uh, you know you saw on
the next one on the on the fifty two yard
or the kids got all the confidence in the world
to come out and you know, just bang balls out
there and make field goals for colds.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
There were a couple of jokers downs coverages that look
like a joint practice. The thinking the game that looked
like a lot of that if between you know, things
about what the process was for the a t and
making you better than the.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Game broken down coverage sorry, and the.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
The George practice seemed to have some broken down coverages
or kick returns and forwards, but.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
The game didn't talk about the.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Process of getting up you know, the practices. It just
gives us a better idea. We come out, we see
we're going against someone else, and this allows us Are
we in the right spots? Are we are we making
the block? Are we doing the things with the pads
on that's gonna spring blocks?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Kickoff return is about being on the right angles, being
on the right spot and blocking guys. And I thought
in the game we did that for the for the
most part. Right you look at Keaton, I thought Keaton
had some good returns, and you know, we're just gonna
run that. We're gonna run that play vertical. I thought
when Ali came in and called the exact same it
was the exact same play and the plages hitting downhill.
So it just gives us an opportunity to look at ourselves,

(03:49):
all right, make the corrections from the practice, and bring
it to the game.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Keaton said in college, you know he didn't return case
he was too valuable to use in that regarding said,
you know, he's learning position with progress.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
You see him learning that spot.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think for a guy like Keaton and a guy
any returner for that matter, right that did not return
in college. Uh, you know those guys were too valuable
for their for their offense.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But here man, it's like he's willing to do whatever
it takes and he has developed and this play is
a little bit different now, right. Uh, A lot of
things happen a lot, a lot quicker. If a guy
misses a block, now it's that cover guy right on
the returner. So these plays they hit downhill a lot quicker.
But his development, he's fine. He's done a great job. Look,
we saw him back there last year. He has success

(04:36):
for us. We'll continue to have success.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
The better we get at blocking, the better we'll get
a return to football.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, we shouldn't make a couple of the out
of faeems like.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
The shorter range.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Sure, that's the playout with kind of what goes into
that or that's the soft office.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
The thought processes for us to just be consistent, right,
I talk about this last week. In the last two years,
eighty percent of our kicks, pats and kicks included came
from under forty yards, So we want to be good
at the eighty percent and then and we're working on
that process for those longer kicks. Again, he has the
leg strength to do that. But let's be good at
where we need to be good at first, Chris, last

(05:18):
year marked the.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
First year the dynamic kickoff.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Of this year, they moved to touchbacks.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
At thirty five.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Given that, how many more kickoffs do we expect this
year when.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
You return for you know, I don't know the exact number.
I do believe a lot of teams will put the
ball in play a lot more. Just watching some of
the cross the preseason, seeing a lot of teams want
to cover kicks and it's a great opportunity for us
to get to work right. It's an opportunity for us
to go live. But whatever that number is, we still
got to be doing a really good job of covering
those kicks. I can't give you an exact number. I

(05:49):
do believe it's going to go up.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Chris Tyler wept to us to just to to kick off.
Like you're talking about the one of you plan.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
If you have him kick off the regular season too,
it's what extent are you hoping for him?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
To just consistency hitting the.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Lady so versus driving some of those more directional, trickier
picks that are hard.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's gonna be a that's gonna be a process of
what we think is good for us as a team.
I know right now in the preseason, we're gonna put
that ball in play because we want our we want
our cover guys to go out and cover. We'll do
a lot of different things. We'll play the ball in
a lot of different spots, but as we move forward
to the regular season, we'll do a couple of different things.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Next up, defensive coordinator talks about Michael Phelps and Bray
Lewis visiting today's training camp practice.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
What's going on? How y'all doing already? So who's Lewis
bat there? It was great, man, I mean obviously, right, Louis.
He's an iconic figure man, iconic sports figure. And then
to have a guy of that magnitude as a as
a person and as a player to be part of
our organization to come back, I mean, I enjoyed it.

(06:54):
It's a surreal moment for me. I grew up watching
him as a kid, so he has plenty of pictures
there's plenty of honors around the building, so I think
it's great for guys who haven't had a chance to
meet him or see him up close to fill his
presence man, And his message was good. It was about,
you know, don't skip any steps. The preparation is what's
gonna lead you to success. So it was a great

(07:15):
message from him. It was fired up. I didn't know
he was coming in.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Zach, so much talk about Mike bring this offseason.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Finally get to see him in a game.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
What did you have?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Man? He played, He played his butt off. Man. He
did a great job. And I think I think he'll
tell you is that he's just scratching the surface, like
he could have played a lot better. But he played
real good, which is which is a testament to his
mindset and how he approaches things. But I think he
displayed everything that you needed to see from a premiered
edge player in this league. He was physical against the run.

(07:47):
He showed the ability to get off the ball and
affect the quarterback. He showed he can beat you with speed,
can beat you with power, and he can counter at
the level. So it was a great start for him.
Look forward to seeing him out there again Saturday. One
more question.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
You know, obviously you played the linebacker position. Dad, You
see some guys out there right now. Do you remember
what it was like playing the position and getting sort
of the directors?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was great. Like when
I first got here, he was still on the cutups.
And why wouldn't you listen to people who've done it
before you?

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
And then not only that, has he done it before you?
He did at the highest level for so long. I mean,
to play linebacker forever, sixteen seventeen years, to be a
Hall of Famer, to win Defensive Player of the Year
as an inside linebacker is a tough thing to do,
and he did it. Man. But I mean I remember
my first time get a chance to meet him. I
was just like in shock, man, like the guy who
I looked up to, who definitely the best linebacker ever

(08:43):
played the game. Now now I'm at where he was at,
So it was just a real moment. On a similar noment,
Michael Thumbs, it was great having another legend, man, Michael Phelps.
He think he said he won twenty three gold medals, man,
which is amazing. I mean, obviously one of the best.

(09:06):
Probably he is the best swimmer of all times all
I know of I'm not gonna say I'm a big
swimming fan, but I know I know Michael Phelps. I've
been knowing him, but definitely as a as an Olympic
gold medalist, regardless of sport, Michael Phelps is you have
to talk about him, have to speak his name. And
I think it was it was neat having him and
Ray come talk to us because the message was the same.
And that's one thing you notice when you when you

(09:28):
listen to the greats, when you study the greats, you wonder, man,
how do they do such great things in the highest
tense moments. And it all leads back to the work
that nobody sees. And that's what Michael Phelps talked about.
So you know, Ray talked about preparation. Michael Phelps talked
about preparation as well. And it's great for our guys
to hear that because it's one thing, you know, for

(09:49):
us to you know, to hear it from somebody a
quote you read or a book you read, but to
physically hear it and to see that person up close
and to know all the things that person that's accomplished
is great. Man, So I can't you know me personally,
I can't thank Michael Phelps and Ray enough for coming
to talk to our team. Shout out to coach Harball
and getting them here. Man, and we love all the

(10:12):
legends that played here or as Ravens fans come come
talk to us. Man, we love it.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Zach c.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Jkoy had a really strong game.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Maybe his best game is a Raven against the Colts.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
What do you think has helped him?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Kind of plundlock that one teacher who size.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
The king as his work man. I mean, it's amazing
to see how far he's come since we've got him
in the springtime. Man, and he works, he works hard.
I mean he played, he played real good in the game.
He's big. I was looking. I was like, dang every
time I saw him before the game, I was like, man,
this guy, you you are a monster. And he went
out there and played like it. But it's a credit

(10:47):
to him, man, Like he's put the work in. He stayed,
he stays extra and I think DJ, Megan Rosberg Andrew
they've done a great job with him and he's continued
to grow. He's row at the game of football. So
you get a guy who's who's that powerful, that strong
athletic too, to kind of put the things together in
the game slow down for them, it was real good
to see. You know, we look at these.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Things, huge type.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Of man they've grown in and all phases. I think
the first thing is health. Both of those guys are
real talented players, man, and we knew that it's a
reason why they're they're on our team, but you know,
the injury bug kind of got got them and it
slowed their development process down. Now they've been healthy, man,
this whole off season program, and it's done wonders for them.

(11:37):
They've continued to get better and better and better. And
both of them played well in that game, and we
know we really please with where they're at. So now
just continue to stay healthy and continue to build and
maximize their talent because I don't think that we've seen
the best of either one of those guys yet. So
that's what we're that's what we're constantly pushing, constantly prying
those guys and about man, it's getting the most out

(11:58):
of them.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
John said that it feels like what they really excel.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
At the job of.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Physicality and the unique contact players that you sort of
one of the last things to come along.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
When you're when you're delping the injuries.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Those guys that dealt.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
With yeah, because when you know now they're fully im
they've been fully immersed to the strength program, the performance program,
like we got a great strength and performance of staff here.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
They do, they do a wonderful job. But you know,
when you're injured, when you're injured, your focus is rehab. Yeah,
you're getting stronger, you're lifting, but the main thing is
you're trying to get your injury stuff handled. Now when
you don't have any injuries, now you can really take
your your strength and your power and your explosiveness to
a whole other level. And those guys have done that.
I mean, those guys were striking people. They've been striking

(12:44):
people out here in practice. You saw it in the
game and just the way the way we want our
guys to play here on the edge. It's a physical
mindset to start off with.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Got to know many ful feedback you guys in the five.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, man, I mean you know, I mean Mamar said
something to you last week about how how we attacking
the ball and how the offensive guys have to tuck
the ball and put it away, and the offensive guys
know that we're attacking it, we're coming forward. So even
when they're not looking, even when they think the balls
put away, we're gonna punt, We're gonna punch. We're gonna
get eleven hats to the football and do that. So
I think we've been more intentional about that as a

(13:27):
coaching staff. I think it's been a director reflection with
our players and they take an ownership of it. We've
gotten the football, you know, pretty much every single day,
which is a real good sign.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Exactly so from champion Barton Jay Higgins the hand of
the game with.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
A higgo Yeah, I told you guys last time was
up here. It's gonna be a lot of guys that
you guys haven't really heard of or talked about who
we're gonna pop on film. And Jay Higgins and Chandla
Martin definitely did that.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'm excited about those two young drafted rookie linebackers. I
mean they probably should have been drafted. Honestly, you combine
their their IQ, they know how to play the game,
they pick up the defense the system really quickly, and
they went out there and showed it on game day.
I mean, those guys are excited fourth quarter. I mean,
those dudes were asking for more reps. I'm like, man, look,

(14:18):
we trying to get off the field as quickly as possible,
but they wanted to go out there and continue to
go out there and play man, And that's what we
want men. We want guys who love to play football,
and those are two of the guys that definitely love
playing ball.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
So if you guys are really dams and talented secondary,
but you also got multiple guys that can play inside,
how interchange a nickel position?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, it could be. It could be interchangeable, man, just
based off of a scheme that you're playing, and based
off of personnel that you're playing, Like you might like
a different guy in the slot this week opposed to
a different week, because who who what they're doing, whether
it's in the run game or in the past game,
they're putting a specific player in that position. So I
think it's good good man. The slot corner position is

(15:02):
not an easy position to play. You know, you you
basically you're a corner, your safety, you're a linebacker, inside
and outside linebacker all in one. So it's a lot
that goes into it. So you have to you have
to know the whole defense in and out to play
that position. So I think it's a it's a credit
to the football IQ that our guys got that they
can go in there and play, and then credit to

(15:23):
the coaches for getting those guys prepared. So you never know,
like you never know in the game how you might
have to shuffle guys around based off of injuries or
based off of performance. So I think it's good that
we can have multiple guys who can go fill that
spot in a pinch. Appreciate y'all. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Finally, you'll hear from offensive coordinator Todd Munkin on the
potential for the young offensive weapons.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
With Trooper Russians.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
He's going to get some more on the sofa and
mom recently. But as you, how much does it change
when the nation back in time.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Well, it's very simple. It's, uh, you're not running QB
driven offense. I mean, as athletic as Cooper is, we're
not going to use him. Probably on the perimeter. It's
gonna have to be spotted. They're similar in terms of
their mental approach to the game. There's not really anything
we can't do conceptually, very similar very smart, see the

(16:27):
field accurate. Just probably the QB drivens just naturally everybody
would know that. I'm not giving away any secrets.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
How do you kind of take these of the QB
performances from last games?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
John?

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Obviously obviously you want more than fifty nine yards, John said,
but just individually, how do you feel like those guys.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Going out like that?

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Well, we got to play better around them. I mean
that's the start of it. It's a team game. I mean,
we got to protect, we got to run the routes,
and they got they got to play better. I gotta
call it better for him. I mean, it's all the above.
When you don't in one aspect of all we did,
because I thought we ran the ball pretty well. An
aspect of it, which is throwing the football. We got
to get better and we're going to continue to get
after it and we'll see comes Saturday. But I'm excited.

(17:06):
I like I like Coop, I like Dev, I like
our guys. We just got to be a lot more
efficient in what we're doing across the board. Welcome.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
I'm curious what you see Corey Bullock when a little
playing center, he'll pour a house tackle in center.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
What did you see that done a great job? I
mean he's done a great job. I'll really go back
to last year. You know, when a player makes the
practice squad, you try to elaborate to them, like you know,
this is a one year opportunity, maybe more. But we're

(17:40):
here here to help us from practice, but to develop. Like,
don't take it as just hey, I go out there
and read a card and I show up at the building.
He didn't do that. I mean he worked every day,
got better every day. Coach war Up's done a great
job with him. I mean he's a very conscientious young
man and he's playing a really high level right now.
Excited for him and for us.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
One of the best in the NFL after it. But
when you hit your sass this year, you know that quartz,
if you picked up that passes, I guess you haven't
an of philosophy when it comes to quarterback. If your
things during kind of drinking it right now?

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Well, you don't like interceptions ever, I mean I don't care.
I don't like his fumbling it. I don't like bad snaps.
I mean, because we're we're practicing at an intentional level
to be elit. Come Sunday, or Saturday whenever that is.
I just go back last year. I think we had
a practice. What we have eight or nine picks, for
God's sakes, we threw it up like we're getting paid.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
To do it. So obviously you learn from that.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Right, If you don't throw interceptions in practice, you don't
get better, Right, that's what you're supposed to do when
you learn from it. What windows you can throw into
the receivers, learn scramble rules, being friendly, so all those
things are part of it. He's never going to change that.
I mean, that's just not who he is. If he
doesn't see it, he's not going to throw it. I mean,
you can go back to last year. I mean you

(18:59):
can't even think think of Oh I can't, I'll say me,
I can't think of ones where like the ball bounced
off a defender's chest like he didn't see him, or
it got tipped. No, I mean that didn't happen. And
we're just going to keep We're going to continue that.
And he's he's elite at it, at seeing the field.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Ye, Mars even.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Says that he wanted to keep it. Yeah, you know
he's one too. He's he's twenty three months to keep
him running. Have you seen anything this summer and that
is maybe it's as sold that his game where there
has been some money to do somethin someone subtle.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Yeah, I think it's uh with every year that we're
running the same offense and we're together, you know, we
communicate better, get to learn each other better, likes dislikes,
how he sees the game, how I see it, how
we bring it together, our staff, because it's not just
me or him, it's ever it's the team, it's our staff.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
But his commanded the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
I think he's doing a better job with our guys
consistently what he expects from them and being on the
same page. So you can just see that part of it.
And again I can only speak to the last two years.
I can't speak before then. But he's been outstanding to
that point, like we've heard, you know, he's been more
full for what way is it you see him as
a man?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Meetings again, you know the different things. Is maybe be
able to build for huddle with professionals now, yeah, but how're.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You your actions?

Speaker 6 (20:21):
I think more in with the players on the field
and in the huddling with me, you know, I mean,
tell me just in person, just in person, just the dialogue,
you know, and I'm I'm better at it, you know,
like anything, the longer you're together with guys, we're better
as an offensive staff, you know, our collaboration, what I

(20:43):
look for, what they look for, How we're going to
do it, how we're gonna consistently do it better. I
just think there's more of that from his end of
it is tell me what you like, tell me what
you want, tell me how we do it better, Tell
me how so we're all on the same page, and
that that carries over to the players. Tell them what
how you see it, and then carry the message the
way we see it done.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
DeAndre had a really long reception at the end of
yesterday's practice. You know, even though he's been great throughout
his career, most of what we've seeing in this training
camp is sort of that short intermediate range where has
a lot of damage. Sort of the intention to get
him all over the field where you can make damage wherever,
or you sort of does that deep ball kind of

(21:25):
just take a little longer to.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Develop attle more.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Well, it's part of that's true, Like we are trying
to move him around, we're trying to be able to
be versatile with our guys, our top guys and everybody
that we have. The other is, you know, we're we're
managing his reps like so you know that doesn't allow
for those opportunities to show up.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
That's really what it is.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
If you took the number of deep balls we've hit
him on by the number of reps, it's probably up
there with everybody else that we've had. It's it's just
worked out that hasn't always been out there, and we're
managing his reps.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Keaton Mitchell has explosiven. It looked like it was back
a lot closer with twenty twenty three. You recently talk
about with all the talent you have on the offensive
side of all the different formations, but specifically the pony fats.
When you have a Derrick Henery, you have a Justiceil,
you have a key mission. Of all of them done
steel sets. Just how much stress did that put on

(22:16):
a defense seat two of those guys one.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Can It's our job to get the best players on
the field. So that's what you're getting at, which is true.
You know, our ability to be versatile not only by
run pass modes, it's also by who's out there, what grouping,
what do we do out of each group? But we

(22:39):
certainly have to look at that a lot more, you know,
as we continue to move forward, because having you know,
keeping back and also Rashein Ali, those guys are really
good players.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
How would you evacuated with the suffer probably in the
preseason opener, and then with him slimming down, do you.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Think that gives you more versatility.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Work which you can do to get you well.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
So I'm so proud of Daniel. I mean, you know,
he worked hard in the off season, came in great shape.
You know, I think I was talking, you know earlier
that you know we're excited for Daniel. I mean, He's
come a long way. He is a really really good
football player in today's day and age, shock value. You know,

(23:22):
whatever scene for one one one shot on the internet
doesn't make a man, or a great play doesn't make
a man. As I was saying earlier, I think you know,
we were talking like if the internet posts someone walking
into church, it doesn't make him a great Christian. It
just means they walked into church. They picked out one
clip of it. Okay, that's not Daniel. Daniel's been outstanding

(23:43):
throughout all of camp and has played his rear endoff
and we're excited where he's at now and where he's
going to continue to grow.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Do you hear any of the things that maybe some
of the fans have to say, And if you do
or see it, how do you fond to that stuff
in that moment or with him?

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Well?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
First of I don't respond to it. I'm not naive
to seeing those things. But there was one play, there
was one example, Like I can't imagine any of us
one example of something in our life, and that's who
they are.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's the silliest I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
In my life. Like, you know, I mean, just the
way it is world we live in, right, it's the
world we live in.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
And he's a tremendous football player.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Really is that.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
I love where he's come. But I get it, you know,
they have to live it more than me. I'm used
to it, you know, I mean, that's part of the business.
I mean I should be old enough to handle that.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
That's it for today's Press Past podcast. We'll be back
with you tomorrow.
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