December 1, 2025 • 18 mins
Head Coach John Harbaugh speaks with the media on Monday following the Ravens' Week 13 loss to the Bengals.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Ravens pres Pass podcast. It is Monday,
December first. The Ravens are gearing up for a week
fourteen matchup against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, and today
we had a chance to hear from head coach John Harball.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Okay, good seeing everybody. Appreciate you guys being here. We're
coming off our last game. We've had a few days
obviously and done quite a bit of work. The players
have been away. We worked on Friday at a full
day and Friday with the players, and then throughout the
weekend different things that we're working on as coaches. But
(00:37):
I'll focus now on the Steelers coming up. And I
think we step back and look at it after the
first third of the season, our goal was to fight
our way, play our way back into contention and position
to compete for the AFC Nord Championship, and we've done that.
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So here we are in the in the in the
in the last third of the season with that objective
and that challenge in front of us to go win
the AFC North which starts on Sunday. So that's where
we're at and that's what our focus will be.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
What questions you have, John, as far as Nate Wiggans,
have you heard of anything as far as you know
the severity of it and is it I mean, could
it be a week to week BG or is it?
Could it be a possible I R situation?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Nate's day to day right now, So we'll see where
he's at on Wednesday, and we'll see where he's at
going forward from there.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
John, you've got Henry Jones a little look. What was
your impression of him in his first jobbing?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I thought he played hard and uh and showed some athleticism,
you know, and some some fight and some gusto. Uh,
played like a rookie in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
There's a lot of things to clean up for sure.
And then could be the first to tell you that.
But you know, you can't really start making those improvement
it's until you play. You have to play in games
to start growing in that direction. Uh and he h.
He got a chance to do that, which was really positive.
And we'll just have to see going forward how much
we want to continue that as we go.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Possible that he could play the other guards spot as well.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's uh, it's possible, but it's hard to do you know,
it's uh, it's we've had that conversation. I mean, there's
a good question. It's the same question that that that
I asked and that we asked. How viable is that?
But you take, you take a rookie and put them
on both sides, you kind of you compound the curve
quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
On the other side of that, How did you see workis.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Respond to being in a rotation and just.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
What would you like to see from him to continue
playing or to solidify that job a little bit more
from him? Well?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you take, there's a there's
it's there's a step between being a starter and being
an established starter kind of in the league, you know
kind of what you're talking about. And when you're a
younger player like Andrew or a lot of guys, you know,
you you want to you want to establish yourself as
a as a as a starter, you know, and and
I think he's in the process of doing that. You know,
he played good boy graded out highly, you know, is
(03:09):
his numbers were good. Daniel grade out highly too. There
you know there's plays that both of them on backtors
plays at their line wants back to I promise it.
You know, it's tough to play a line in this league,
but consistency really is the bottom line, you know, just
to be as consistent as you can possibly be and
have as many really upside plays as you can, but
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most of all, as much as possible, and it's the
interior offensive line is probably the toughest place to do.
It is to minimize the negative places as much as
you can, you know, and that's what we strive for.
I think we've done a really good job of that
over the years with our offensive line, and you keep
trying to always building that direction.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Weakness in that Cincinnati, this has been the past defense.
And it looked like you guys were trying to exploit
that on Thursday night.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
But when you see Henry.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Not get the ball in the second quarter, are you
happy with that? I know you want to exploit something,
but also just trying to keep him engaged in the game,
was it?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Did you like the balance in the yeah, no, no doubt, no,
of course not. I mean that's not the numbers that
we want at all, you know, and and we want
we want to run the ball. We're running team, you know,
I mean, that's the fact. And we were throwing team too.
We got Lamar Jackson, we got receivers, we got tight ends,
we got all that. But but we want to always
be a team that runs the ball and stops the run.
That's been since two thousand and eight. You know, it's
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not going to really probably ever change and that's really
what football is so for sure. And when you look
at the game, I mean, you went, we went seven
plays down the field and scored, then we went three
and out, three and out. Then we were in two minutes.
So that explains the lack of carries in the second quarter.
We didn't have any plays in the second quarter to
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have a chance to even run the ball. So then
the other part of that, it's just the number of
two minute plays was in the game was staggering. I mean,
we had twenty one to two minute plays. That's that's
way too high. And when you have that many too,
you know, I like, I don't mind too many plays
at the end of the half. I'm not real fired
up about too many plays at the end of the game.
That means you're trying to, you know, come back. And
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so we had seven or eight too minute plays at
the end of the half, and we had I don't know,
fifteen or so at the end of the game, because
we started two minutes at the nine thirty eight mark
of the fourth quarter. And that explains that the play
distribution as much as anything, explains the carries as much
as anything. So the circumstance of the game took us
in that direction.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
When we talked to Lamar after the game, he seemed
a little bit of a loss to explain why his
accuracy wasn't there at the little team expects it to be.
I mean, he said, you know, in practice, it's been there.
From your standpoint, what can you guys do help him
get back to where he expects to be.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, I mean that's just kind of what sports is,
you know. I mean, I do think you're going to have,
you know, an off day sometimes, and that's not something
that you take lightly, for sure. I know. Listen, Lamar
doesn't take it lightly more than anybody, and no player
on this team takes it lightly. And we have conscientious guys.
So uh, that's what you do. You go back to work.
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You go back to work and you get you get
in there and you practice and you study it and
you and you and you work together to be as
precise as you can. It was not a precise offensive
performance in any way. You know, there was nothing precise
about it. It was imprecise in every way. And and
we all know that, we're all you know, we're all
we're all not happy with it. You know, we're very
disappointed by it. But you can't live in it. You
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got to move on and uh and and come out
swinging the next time. And and uh, I think if
you watched the league, you'll see that that's very possible.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
John, for that point. And I know it's never one thing,
but is is it? H is attention to detail the
little things which specifically to to Lamar, that you'd like
to see, you know, kind of improved as all.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
That's all those things, John, You happy with the way
you got's? It feels like you're not ending up into
the right play a lot, I guess offensively. I guess
going back to years past, especially in the last two years,
it seemed like you guys had the en aanswer for everything.
The defensive storn and Todd Munkin always talked about the
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pre snap adjustments that are made in Lamar, particularly to
change plays. Do you feel like you guys are still
getting into those right places based on the looks at
the line.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So I think we do at times and the times
we don't. You know, it's it's part of the whole thing.
I mean, it's all, it's all, it's all part of it.
There's if it was any one thing, then it would,
you know, it'd be one thing. But it's never any
one thing. It's always a moving target. That's why it's
so tough and so competitive. That's why you don't see
you see things change every week. You know, it's it's
it's it's sports, you know, and it's not you try
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to chase. What we want to do is chase being
on the same page, being together, being connected. We want
to chase that in everything we do communication wise, uh,
you know, efficiency, and then the defense throws a lot
of stuff at you. You know, so you've got to
adjust the movement, You've got adjust to your disguises. You've
got to adjust to guys showing up. We don't expect
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them to show up sometime and have plans for all that.
You know. Even even a player, you know, just in
his in his world, has to has to adapt to
so many moving parts. And that's what makes the game
so crazy and chaotic, and we didn't do a good
job of that Thursday night. So no, I'm not happy
about it. You know, we none of us are happy
about it. We want to be We're happy about it
when we really execute well and we put it together
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and we have the answers like you're saying, uh, you
know and uh, and it shows up in the execution.
Really at the end of the day, it shows up
in the execution. So that's what we chase it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
There's been fumbling issues from different players throughout the season.
Earlier it was obviously the entry. You know, four bals
this last game and are all kind of each in
their own life. Is there anything team why to take
out of what's been happening?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
You fumbling?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, we had five turnovers in the game. You know,
it's just shocking, you know, And uh, and they're all fumbles.
Four of them are fumbles, So that's that's that's probably
the common denominator. They're all fumbles. But there's really not
any one thing that you can say about any one
of them because all four of them are different. But
it comes back down to the common denominator is ball
security and the importance of executing ball security. So yeah,
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it's got to be done. It's got to be intentional.
It's got to be intentional, and everything you do from
day one, it's got to be practiced. It's got to
be it's got to be on your mind, at the
forefront of your mind at all times when you're a
ball handler. And that's something that we we emphasize, you know,
we give high regard to and we talk about and
(09:42):
push demand every single day. But the players demanded themselves
every single day and to see it not execute it's yeah,
it's tough, man, it's it's a it's a it's a
disappointing thing. And that's why we lost at the end
of the day. And that's the bottom line. That's the
main thing. So we all know it. We all we
all have to do better with it.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Players at the goal line, I mean likely you know
when you get there, but you know short of like
fourth and goal where you know.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
You can score your turn the ball over or end
of the half something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
How generally speaking, how.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Do you want players to approach it when they're at
the goal.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And want the ball secured in ball security position, you know,
high and tight period, extending the ball in the goal
line has its place. When you've got two strong hands
in the ball and you're and you have space and
there's no traffic, I can see that. I can live
with that, and I can I can live with when
it turns out good, because even if you do that
and you don't execute it, then it was too much,
(10:34):
you know. But you do have to make a little
bit of an allowance. I think for pro football players
who are very talented, you see some great plays made,
you know, we're not going to coach our guys out
of that. But when you take it to the to
the next level of doing something that's not sound, you know,
that's not good, you know, and that's that's that's not
that's not winning football. So all of it, you know,
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all that kind of thing. The most important thing is
to protect the football and you have the football in
your hand.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Is there a chances that you get Robinson and Washington
back in practice this week?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Is it's still too early to know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's a chance we get those guys back in practice
this week. Yeah, we'll see Wednesday. It's a good chance.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Actually, Sean, when you had.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
The chance to go back and will what did you
see on the passing appearance called Isa Flowers.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I saw a call that sometimes gets made and sometimes doesn't. Basically,
so I think, you know, Zay would tell you that,
you know, he didn't need to do it. You know,
he probably overdid it a little bit. So it got called.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
You explained around the state plan the situation, I thought
pretty clearly.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
But is it kind of.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
A surprise when you go back and you pick up
a final statue and you look at Derek only had
ten carries, Pete Mitchell had two carries, and and you
wonder how it got to that point.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, yeah, I mean that's not what we want. But
I kind of had a pretty good idea after the
game is over, because I know how the game went.
It wasn't too hard to figure out. But then when
you look at the actually go back and you look
at the numbers play for play, which I did after
the game. After I saw that, and I looked at
the numbers and I was like, okay, how did this
exactly happen? Then it's it's it's okay, that's what happened,
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you know. It's there just weren't enough opportunities, you know,
So it wasn't like we were every time we went
first and second down. We were going to run the
ball one hundred percent of the time. You know, we'd
have had to do We'd have had to do that
to get to get to eighteen to twenty carries runs.
We'd have had to run it every time a first
and second down just about. And you know you want
to you want to have to play actions. You know,
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you want to do some screens and things like that
to keep people off balance and try to be balanced.
So you just want more of those plays. I mean,
that's the bottom line. We just needed more of those plays.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
How do you think how do you think Ali handle
looked like you basically set.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Them the justice to the role, you pass protection through.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Them and things like that.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
How do you think you handle that and.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You see that role for him for Justice down?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
All right, Yeah, I'd say, yes, yes, handled it well
and yes he h you know, he played really well.
I mean, so the plays that he was in he did.
He got the job and they pass protected well, he did.
He ran his routes well, he chipped well. Uh, he
had one run where I thought he was tentative on
you know, could hit it up in there in the
gap on a third medium. I think it was so
(13:21):
uh he played well.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Uh John, John, it looked like you guys were trying
to be aggressive and getting after burrows and in some blisters,
but it seemed like they picked him up. Why do
you feel like I guess your pressures weren't getting home
as much.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They were max max protection. I mean they were in
seven man protection. So uh, even some of those got home.
But he got his way out of it. You know.
The biggest thing, I think the biggest thing in those
you know you took the second half on the third downs.
I mean, the story of the game on defense was
basically five turnovers they had to go back on the
field for and then the third down conversions that the
Bengals had, especially in the second half, and that put
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us on the field a lot. I thought, guys still
handled it well, but uh uh, you know, we're bringing
pressure and a couple of times we checked out a pressure,
a couple of times we bluffed, and they're in max protection.
You kind of get what you want there. You run
a blitz into seven blockers. You know, he's probably gonna
have a chance to get the ball out, but there's
only three receivers out, so that's okay. So then we
starts the move. You got to get him down, and
(14:16):
I just if I was disappointing anything, I was disappointing
the fact that he was able to get out and
extend plays a little more than we were hoping for,
you know. So and even with that, you know, they
got to give him credit to because new probably four
of those maybe five of those conversions were really great
throws and catches, I mean diving catches, tightly contested throws
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and catches that they made. So they deserve credit for
that too.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know, obviously a.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Sort of injuries.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
How much do you think this kind of mini buy
by point one, how much do you think that will
help him?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And do you think going forward it seems like there's
been a pattern of no Wednesday practices that's something that
could continue.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I really don't know. We'll set to see how it
chase out. I think it'll be fine. You know, he's
gonna practice I tell you all that stuff. He's gonna
practice like as much as he can, you know, Lamorrol
practice as much as he can and prepare as well
as he can. And you know that's that's what he's
gonna do. And he always has.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
John you open talking about this as North Race. You've
got the Steelers and you got the Bengals.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Do you do you.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Stress that back to back states to the team.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Is it simply this is Pittsburgh. We got to worry about.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Pittsburgh this week, and simply Pittsburgh. We're just focused on
Pittsburgh this week.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
What's your impression of them so far? Now you and
Tom will go back forever, but what's your impression of
business either team?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
My impression is that that's the team we got to
beat this week, and whatever they are is, we're studying
him and however we need to attack them. We're gonna
put the best plan together we can and play the
best football we can on Sunday. That's that's my impression.
That's how I think about it.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
John, obviously not a great environment on Thursday, talk about
team milestones, but Mark became the old time daring the
receptions on Thursday. And given where he was.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
In the off season, and you know, knowing me ending
on in Buffalo, what do you think of his season
so far? Leaving your team touchdowns, passing milestones and really
kind of re establishing himself as a go to guy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Absolutely, I'm I'm a big fan of Mark, you know,
I always have been a big fan of all of
our guys. But you know, Mark's been here a long time,
you know, and we've been through a lot together, all
of us, and and so I'm proud of him, you know,
I did. I'm not surprised at all expected him to
have the c type of season he's having. So yeah,
that's really cool for him to get that milestone, as
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you said, and that that goes down in history. You know,
it goes down in history. I mean, and you see
players do that like the Hop you know, the hop
guys thousands catch and got to hear as a raven.
That's that's pretty awesome too. So those things, you are,
things that you do, you do, you do know and
you're you know, you're gonna look back someday you're gonna say, wow,
that's really really need to be a part of that.
(17:08):
And yet that's all it's all turned into the basically
the process of trying to find a way to win
the next game and and and accomplished the things that
we can accomplish in a real tough, tough league, you know. So, uh,
it's it's a lot that goes on with this whole,
this whole deal, which is probably why we all love
it so much.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Joe get So Chamlan Martin, is is that a you
said it was a serious injury.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You know more about that, and I guess you follow
up on Justice Hill.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Does he have a shot of attorney this year or
is that?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Is that a season end you think right?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Chandler is a season ending thing. He has an a
c L. He's gonna get an a c L repair
here in the in the next couple of days, so
he'll be out until training camp next year. Uh, kudos
to him. He played three really well two games, really
good games forced and it was the first play it happened,
unfortunately for him, but uh, he started to establish himself.
That was that was neat to see young player. Justice
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does have a chance to come back. It's going to
be a three to four week type of deal as
we see it right now. So that's what we're looking
for right there with Justice.
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Welcome to the Ravens pres Pass podcast. It is Monday,
December first. The Ravens are gearing up for a week
fourteen matchup against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, and today
we had a chance to hear from head coach John Harball.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Okay, good seeing everybody. Appreciate you guys being here. We're
coming off our last game. We've had a few days
obviously and done quite a bit of work. The players
have been away. We worked on Friday at a full
day and Friday with the players, and then throughout the
weekend different things that we're working on as coaches. But
(00:37):
I'll focus now on the Steelers coming up. And I
think we step back and look at it after the
first third of the season, our goal was to fight
our way, play our way back into contention and position
to compete for the AFC Nord Championship, and we've done that.
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So here we are in the in the in the
in the last third of the season with that objective
and that challenge in front of us to go win
the AFC North which starts on Sunday. So that's where
we're at and that's what our focus will be.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
What questions you have, John, as far as Nate Wiggans,
have you heard of anything as far as you know
the severity of it and is it I mean, could
it be a week to week BG or is it?
Could it be a possible I R situation?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Nate's day to day right now, So we'll see where
he's at on Wednesday, and we'll see where he's at
going forward from there.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
John, you've got Henry Jones a little look. What was
your impression of him in his first jobbing?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I thought he played hard and uh and showed some athleticism,
you know, and some some fight and some gusto. Uh,
played like a rookie in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
There's a lot of things to clean up for sure.
And then could be the first to tell you that.
But you know, you can't really start making those improvement
it's until you play. You have to play in games
to start growing in that direction. Uh and he h.
He got a chance to do that, which was really positive.
And we'll just have to see going forward how much
we want to continue that as we go.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Possible that he could play the other guards spot as well.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's uh, it's possible, but it's hard to do you know,
it's uh, it's we've had that conversation. I mean, there's
a good question. It's the same question that that that
I asked and that we asked. How viable is that?
But you take, you take a rookie and put them
on both sides, you kind of you compound the curve
quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
On the other side of that, How did you see workis.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Respond to being in a rotation and just.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
What would you like to see from him to continue
playing or to solidify that job a little bit more
from him? Well?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you take, there's a there's
it's there's a step between being a starter and being
an established starter kind of in the league, you know
kind of what you're talking about. And when you're a
younger player like Andrew or a lot of guys, you know,
you you want to you want to establish yourself as
a as a as a starter, you know, and and
I think he's in the process of doing that. You know,
he played good boy graded out highly, you know, is
(03:09):
his numbers were good. Daniel grade out highly too. There
you know there's plays that both of them on backtors
plays at their line wants back to I promise it.
You know, it's tough to play a line in this league,
but consistency really is the bottom line, you know, just
to be as consistent as you can possibly be and
have as many really upside plays as you can, but
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most of all, as much as possible, and it's the
interior offensive line is probably the toughest place to do.
It is to minimize the negative places as much as
you can, you know, and that's what we strive for.
I think we've done a really good job of that
over the years with our offensive line, and you keep
trying to always building that direction.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Weakness in that Cincinnati, this has been the past defense.
And it looked like you guys were trying to exploit
that on Thursday night.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
But when you see Henry.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Not get the ball in the second quarter, are you
happy with that? I know you want to exploit something,
but also just trying to keep him engaged in the game,
was it?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Did you like the balance in the yeah, no, no doubt, no,
of course not. I mean that's not the numbers that
we want at all, you know, and and we want
we want to run the ball. We're running team, you know,
I mean, that's the fact. And we were throwing team too.
We got Lamar Jackson, we got receivers, we got tight ends,
we got all that. But but we want to always
be a team that runs the ball and stops the run.
That's been since two thousand and eight. You know, it's
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not going to really probably ever change and that's really
what football is so for sure. And when you look
at the game, I mean, you went, we went seven
plays down the field and scored, then we went three
and out, three and out. Then we were in two minutes.
So that explains the lack of carries in the second quarter.
We didn't have any plays in the second quarter to
(04:48):
have a chance to even run the ball. So then
the other part of that, it's just the number of
two minute plays was in the game was staggering. I mean,
we had twenty one to two minute plays. That's that's
way too high. And when you have that many too,
you know, I like, I don't mind too many plays
at the end of the half. I'm not real fired
up about too many plays at the end of the game.
That means you're trying to, you know, come back. And
(05:11):
so we had seven or eight too minute plays at
the end of the half, and we had I don't know,
fifteen or so at the end of the game, because
we started two minutes at the nine thirty eight mark
of the fourth quarter. And that explains that the play
distribution as much as anything, explains the carries as much
as anything. So the circumstance of the game took us
in that direction.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
When we talked to Lamar after the game, he seemed
a little bit of a loss to explain why his
accuracy wasn't there at the little team expects it to be.
I mean, he said, you know, in practice, it's been there.
From your standpoint, what can you guys do help him
get back to where he expects to be.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, I mean that's just kind of what sports is,
you know. I mean, I do think you're going to have,
you know, an off day sometimes, and that's not something
that you take lightly, for sure. I know. Listen, Lamar
doesn't take it lightly more than anybody, and no player
on this team takes it lightly. And we have conscientious guys.
So uh, that's what you do. You go back to work.
(06:15):
You go back to work and you get you get
in there and you practice and you study it and
you and you and you work together to be as
precise as you can. It was not a precise offensive
performance in any way. You know, there was nothing precise
about it. It was imprecise in every way. And and
we all know that, we're all you know, we're all
we're all not happy with it. You know, we're very
disappointed by it. But you can't live in it. You
(06:37):
got to move on and uh and and come out
swinging the next time. And and uh, I think if
you watched the league, you'll see that that's very possible.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
John, for that point. And I know it's never one thing,
but is is it? H is attention to detail the
little things which specifically to to Lamar, that you'd like
to see, you know, kind of improved as all.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
That's all those things, John, You happy with the way
you got's? It feels like you're not ending up into
the right play a lot, I guess offensively. I guess
going back to years past, especially in the last two years,
it seemed like you guys had the en aanswer for everything.
The defensive storn and Todd Munkin always talked about the
(07:19):
pre snap adjustments that are made in Lamar, particularly to
change plays. Do you feel like you guys are still
getting into those right places based on the looks at
the line.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So I think we do at times and the times
we don't. You know, it's it's part of the whole thing.
I mean, it's all, it's all, it's all part of it.
There's if it was any one thing, then it would,
you know, it'd be one thing. But it's never any
one thing. It's always a moving target. That's why it's
so tough and so competitive. That's why you don't see
you see things change every week. You know, it's it's
it's it's sports, you know, and it's not you try
(07:48):
to chase. What we want to do is chase being
on the same page, being together, being connected. We want
to chase that in everything we do communication wise, uh,
you know, efficiency, and then the defense throws a lot
of stuff at you. You know, so you've got to
adjust the movement, You've got adjust to your disguises. You've
got to adjust to guys showing up. We don't expect
(08:10):
them to show up sometime and have plans for all that.
You know. Even even a player, you know, just in
his in his world, has to has to adapt to
so many moving parts. And that's what makes the game
so crazy and chaotic, and we didn't do a good
job of that Thursday night. So no, I'm not happy
about it. You know, we none of us are happy
about it. We want to be We're happy about it
when we really execute well and we put it together
(08:31):
and we have the answers like you're saying, uh, you
know and uh, and it shows up in the execution.
Really at the end of the day, it shows up
in the execution. So that's what we chase it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
There's been fumbling issues from different players throughout the season.
Earlier it was obviously the entry. You know, four bals
this last game and are all kind of each in
their own life. Is there anything team why to take
out of what's been happening?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
You fumbling?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, we had five turnovers in the game. You know,
it's just shocking, you know, And uh, and they're all fumbles.
Four of them are fumbles, So that's that's that's probably
the common denominator. They're all fumbles. But there's really not
any one thing that you can say about any one
of them because all four of them are different. But
it comes back down to the common denominator is ball
security and the importance of executing ball security. So yeah,
(09:21):
it's got to be done. It's got to be intentional.
It's got to be intentional, and everything you do from
day one, it's got to be practiced. It's got to
be it's got to be on your mind, at the
forefront of your mind at all times when you're a
ball handler. And that's something that we we emphasize, you know,
we give high regard to and we talk about and
(09:42):
push demand every single day. But the players demanded themselves
every single day and to see it not execute it's yeah,
it's tough, man, it's it's a it's a it's a
disappointing thing. And that's why we lost at the end
of the day. And that's the bottom line. That's the
main thing. So we all know it. We all we
all have to do better with it.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Players at the goal line, I mean likely you know
when you get there, but you know short of like
fourth and goal where you know.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
You can score your turn the ball over or end
of the half something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
How generally speaking, how.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Do you want players to approach it when they're at
the goal.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And want the ball secured in ball security position, you know,
high and tight period, extending the ball in the goal
line has its place. When you've got two strong hands
in the ball and you're and you have space and
there's no traffic, I can see that. I can live
with that, and I can I can live with when
it turns out good, because even if you do that
and you don't execute it, then it was too much,
(10:34):
you know. But you do have to make a little
bit of an allowance. I think for pro football players
who are very talented, you see some great plays made,
you know, we're not going to coach our guys out
of that. But when you take it to the to
the next level of doing something that's not sound, you know,
that's not good, you know, and that's that's that's not
that's not winning football. So all of it, you know,
(10:56):
all that kind of thing. The most important thing is
to protect the football and you have the football in
your hand.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Is there a chances that you get Robinson and Washington
back in practice this week?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Is it's still too early to know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's a chance we get those guys back in practice
this week. Yeah, we'll see Wednesday. It's a good chance.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Actually, Sean, when you had.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
The chance to go back and will what did you
see on the passing appearance called Isa Flowers.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I saw a call that sometimes gets made and sometimes doesn't. Basically,
so I think, you know, Zay would tell you that,
you know, he didn't need to do it. You know,
he probably overdid it a little bit. So it got called.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
You explained around the state plan the situation, I thought
pretty clearly.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
But is it kind of.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
A surprise when you go back and you pick up
a final statue and you look at Derek only had
ten carries, Pete Mitchell had two carries, and and you
wonder how it got to that point.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, yeah, I mean that's not what we want. But
I kind of had a pretty good idea after the
game is over, because I know how the game went.
It wasn't too hard to figure out. But then when
you look at the actually go back and you look
at the numbers play for play, which I did after
the game. After I saw that, and I looked at
the numbers and I was like, okay, how did this
exactly happen? Then it's it's it's okay, that's what happened,
(12:16):
you know. It's there just weren't enough opportunities, you know,
So it wasn't like we were every time we went
first and second down. We were going to run the
ball one hundred percent of the time. You know, we'd
have had to do We'd have had to do that
to get to get to eighteen to twenty carries runs.
We'd have had to run it every time a first
and second down just about. And you know you want
to you want to have to play actions. You know,
(12:37):
you want to do some screens and things like that
to keep people off balance and try to be balanced.
So you just want more of those plays. I mean,
that's the bottom line. We just needed more of those plays.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
How do you think how do you think Ali handle
looked like you basically set.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Them the justice to the role, you pass protection through.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Them and things like that.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
How do you think you handle that and.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You see that role for him for Justice down?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
All right, Yeah, I'd say, yes, yes, handled it well
and yes he h you know, he played really well.
I mean, so the plays that he was in he did.
He got the job and they pass protected well, he did.
He ran his routes well, he chipped well. Uh, he
had one run where I thought he was tentative on
you know, could hit it up in there in the
gap on a third medium. I think it was so
(13:21):
uh he played well.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Uh John, John, it looked like you guys were trying
to be aggressive and getting after burrows and in some blisters,
but it seemed like they picked him up. Why do
you feel like I guess your pressures weren't getting home
as much.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They were max max protection. I mean they were in
seven man protection. So uh, even some of those got home.
But he got his way out of it. You know.
The biggest thing, I think the biggest thing in those
you know you took the second half on the third downs.
I mean, the story of the game on defense was
basically five turnovers they had to go back on the
field for and then the third down conversions that the
Bengals had, especially in the second half, and that put
(13:55):
us on the field a lot. I thought, guys still
handled it well, but uh uh, you know, we're bringing
pressure and a couple of times we checked out a pressure,
a couple of times we bluffed, and they're in max protection.
You kind of get what you want there. You run
a blitz into seven blockers. You know, he's probably gonna
have a chance to get the ball out, but there's
only three receivers out, so that's okay. So then we
starts the move. You got to get him down, and
(14:16):
I just if I was disappointing anything, I was disappointing
the fact that he was able to get out and
extend plays a little more than we were hoping for,
you know. So and even with that, you know, they
got to give him credit to because new probably four
of those maybe five of those conversions were really great
throws and catches, I mean diving catches, tightly contested throws
(14:38):
and catches that they made. So they deserve credit for
that too.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know, obviously a.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Sort of injuries.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
How much do you think this kind of mini buy
by point one, how much do you think that will
help him?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And do you think going forward it seems like there's
been a pattern of no Wednesday practices that's something that
could continue.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I really don't know. We'll set to see how it
chase out. I think it'll be fine. You know, he's
gonna practice I tell you all that stuff. He's gonna
practice like as much as he can, you know, Lamorrol
practice as much as he can and prepare as well
as he can. And you know that's that's what he's
gonna do. And he always has.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
John you open talking about this as North Race. You've
got the Steelers and you got the Bengals.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Do you do you.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Stress that back to back states to the team.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Is it simply this is Pittsburgh. We got to worry about.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Pittsburgh this week, and simply Pittsburgh. We're just focused on
Pittsburgh this week.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
What's your impression of them so far? Now you and
Tom will go back forever, but what's your impression of
business either team?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
My impression is that that's the team we got to
beat this week, and whatever they are is, we're studying
him and however we need to attack them. We're gonna
put the best plan together we can and play the
best football we can on Sunday. That's that's my impression.
That's how I think about it.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
John, obviously not a great environment on Thursday, talk about
team milestones, but Mark became the old time daring the
receptions on Thursday. And given where he was.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
In the off season, and you know, knowing me ending
on in Buffalo, what do you think of his season
so far? Leaving your team touchdowns, passing milestones and really
kind of re establishing himself as a go to guy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Absolutely, I'm I'm a big fan of Mark, you know,
I always have been a big fan of all of
our guys. But you know, Mark's been here a long time,
you know, and we've been through a lot together, all
of us, and and so I'm proud of him, you know,
I did. I'm not surprised at all expected him to
have the c type of season he's having. So yeah,
that's really cool for him to get that milestone, as
(16:46):
you said, and that that goes down in history. You know,
it goes down in history. I mean, and you see
players do that like the Hop you know, the hop
guys thousands catch and got to hear as a raven.
That's that's pretty awesome too. So those things, you are,
things that you do, you do, you do know and
you're you know, you're gonna look back someday you're gonna say, wow,
that's really really need to be a part of that.
(17:08):
And yet that's all it's all turned into the basically
the process of trying to find a way to win
the next game and and and accomplished the things that
we can accomplish in a real tough, tough league, you know. So, uh,
it's it's a lot that goes on with this whole,
this whole deal, which is probably why we all love
it so much.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Joe get So Chamlan Martin, is is that a you
said it was a serious injury.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You know more about that, and I guess you follow
up on Justice Hill.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Does he have a shot of attorney this year or
is that?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Is that a season end you think right?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Chandler is a season ending thing. He has an a
c L. He's gonna get an a c L repair
here in the in the next couple of days, so
he'll be out until training camp next year. Uh, kudos
to him. He played three really well two games, really
good games forced and it was the first play it happened,
unfortunately for him, but uh, he started to establish himself.
That was that was neat to see young player. Justice
(18:01):
does have a chance to come back. It's going to
be a three to four week type of deal as
we see it right now. So that's what we're looking
for right there with Justice.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
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