June 11, 2025 • 28 mins
Can the Hawks continue their winning ways in Launceston against the Crows, and does Patrick Dangerfield's return to Geelong's forward line stifle Jeremy Cameron's influence? Peter Ryan is back to join Andrew Wu behind the mic for this week's Real Footy tipping podcast to answer these curly questions while also sharing a few laughs and their tipping wisdom. Plus, we find out why Wuey got home so late from last week's trip down the highway to GMHBA Stadium. Tune in to find out more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Real Footy Podcast. Thanks for joining us
to tip around fourt eight. My name's Andrew wou and
today welcome back my old sparring partner Peter Ryan Fresh
for a week off in Canberra.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, I spent the weekend in Canberra visiting my daughter,
which was good, but I also went to Manica Oval
and watched that game between Port Adelaide and the Giants,
which reminded me how threadbare the Giants are in their midfield.
Tom Green he's a great player, but beyond that they
had Xavier O'Halloran who is emerging as a very good player.
But they had to run locky midfield anyway, They're depleted
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and Port Adelaide got them. So that was my excitement
in camera, and I.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Heard you explain to all that to your families. All
you dragged them out to Barnica.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Dragged my wife there, but my daughter actually I was
visiting her, but she went into a band.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You couldn't tempt her the footy with the deficiencies of
the Giants midfield, and I got to.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Say my wife wasn't particularly interested either, but went along
and we had a good night. And the Giants they
got twelve or ten or eleven thousand there, I think, well,
they are expecting that. I haven't actually checked the crowd,
but there's a reasonable atmosphere and it was not a
great game.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's a good place for footy actually, but you're.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sitting right on top of them. It felt like a
it's a country footy game a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I've covered a Test match there was.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That the one where Curtison, yeah made.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
A one hundred looked a million dollars and then it
hasn't played since.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So anyway, No, it's good, good to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well in your time off, you're still in second. Michael
Gleason still learning on seventy nine. You're on seventy eight,
Calum and Callum's third on seventy seven, Jakes on seventy five.
I've made a bit of a move. I've collected a
few stragglers in the last couple of weeks, so I'm
equal fifth with Mark McGowan and Jimmy Bartel. And I've
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been told I'm going to include this joke by the
producer that the three premierships of Browlowe and an All
Smith medal between us.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, that's good, and at what level you guys you
listeners can decide who wants jim Is in the Hall
of Fame, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm not sure he should be.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I've got a feeling he might be, but may not be,
but he should be at some point. It's certainly a
champion player and probably, let's say, a thousand times better
footballers than either of.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You, exactly exactly a thousand miles.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I was sted on Friday night because I was away,
but Zach Bailey that Brisbane Adelaide game was a bit Yeah,
I would have been a head aglaesi if he kicked straight.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You're putting it on him. Yeah. At the same game
I took the lines as well. He's a good player
and he just yeah, they all bottled it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Really, Yeah, they bothered it, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
They had that game that was sixty three goals up,
the last three goals inside.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Fifties a Brisbane gosh, another reason to kind of you know,
you don't want the reigning premiere going back to back,
do you really?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Unless your club you when I said that last year, But.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I know I respect Brisbane, but just as a general principle,
you'd prefer its spread and shared around a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, it depends on which other clubs are in the contention.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Good effort from Adelaide, but it's getting tougher. I reckon, Yeah,
I reckon. The last few weeks it's been like fives
and six's has been a passable score, whereas you want
to get up to the sevens and eighths RECOI are
you taking a risk? I know there's been less teams playing,
I get less games. I get that, but it's still
been tough.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well that's the key. I mean, you don't want to
be tipping favorites everywhere because if you tip all eight
or nine favorites, you generally don't get it right. But
the art and tipping is to find the underdog that
gets up because you can tip the wrong ones and
then suddenly you get four and everyone's got seven and
you got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
How do you go? By the way, just before you
start getting back from Geelong, broke down just.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Past the Little River Road exit. Ah, that's great. The
last I saw my car when I jumped in the cab,
it was sitting just on the emergency lane on the
Princess Highway, just past the Little River Road.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
When you come a name from a cold Gold Coast loss.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You know, there was a great game of footy though
Geelong and Gold Coast to cover. I just spent the
last spent the three hours waiting in the car reminiscing
Abou one of the best games of the seasons.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, make Shames was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He was very good. We'll get into that later. First
game of the round Saint Kilda against the Western Bulldogs
at Marvel Stadium Thursday night footy. The Saints have got
a the terrible record against the Bulldogs recently, but this
is one of the Bulldogs have to win because as
well as they've traveled this year as well, they've played
at times they lose this. They're six and seven and
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they'll be out of the eight by a game or so,
so trouble for them if they don't get up.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I very much agree with you. I'm tipping the Bulldogs.
They've got Sam Darcy back, your.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Man Sam Darcy, your number ten pick or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He was a bit of a miracle he's back so early.
I hope it goes well for him. Yeah, they just
have to win because I think the reality of the
Bulldogs is they're now in a fight for the top
eight as much as the top four, and they've been
good enough to be extremely competitive against good teams without
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necessarily getting the four points, and then they had a
low point last week, but it leaves them vulnerable in
these games you just can't afford to lose.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, they're one and six now against the teams in
the top eight, and I mean there was a lot
of talk last week about after the game the other
the dogs too reliant on clearance and whatever, But in
the end, that's over analysis. They just had one bad
quarter and they couldn't catch up for the rest of
the night.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I agree with that, and they let wedd All
go a bit mental.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He had a good game, didn't he. He's a good
player to watch, but he's got power, isn't he take
a market a great kick? But that was classic team
coming off the buy against another team that was revd
up for the game. So we saw that difference in
the first quarter, but after that it was pretty oven.
Rory Lobb, is he a bit of forward or a defender?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, he's a bit of defender.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It was all right forward.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's become a reliable player, which is something that you
wouldn't have said about Rory Lobb.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
He's become a reliable player, something that you never.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
No, no, no, I'm not that who cares what you were?
No no, but you're right.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
He has become a reliable player. It happens, We're going
to happens a lot when forwards move into defense. It's
probably an easy position to play, but a lot of
forwards who are sort of up and down as forwards
moving to defense and become really solid players.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And Melbourne isn't he He's played for as much a
stopgap as anything, but he's gone back and show that
he's got some qualities in jacksonlvas Jack Silvarney justin Leppish
was the classic one who's recruited as a Ford and
became a three time premiership Defender's helping more Western Bulldogs get.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
To the winners Bulldogs twenty one points for mate with
three points.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Three points, yeah, because Securita are going to strangle the
life out of him and it'll make it a low
scoring Well, they have.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
To win contest against the Bulldogs if you're going to
play that kind of game, because in the I think
the past two games they've played they've been smacked in
that area and beaten.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
By coming off confidence building.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Against Melbourne, who's formed had been pretty good up until then. Okay,
dogs for mate, Dogs for me. Next game Friday night footy.
We head down the lawn System where it's going to
be zero degrees on Friday night, literally zero. Yes, Hawthorne
against Adelaide. That's what the forecast said. That's a that's
a forecast low Friday night, so it might be two degrees.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Sam Mitchell take his top off and run around just
to show that there's no issue.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, as he press did.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I think the Hawks will get a lot of confidence
out of their win against the Bulldogs, and they're very
hard to beat at lawn Seston. So as much as
Adelaide a difficult opartner and have beaten them down there,
I think that Hawthorne will prevail.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
They have won seven on a row lawn Stein Hawthorne
and you know who they lost to the last time
to beat.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Them down there, Adelaide when Riley Tilthorpe, you're.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Man Adelaide beat them in round six twenty twenty three
by three points.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I remember that game. It was actually a really
good game. But that is why I'm to be an Adelaide. Sorry, Hawthorne,
your thoughts can Adelaide get it done.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm tipping the Cries because you can't tip favorites every game.
There's one of those games where you've got to take
a bit of a risk, and I'm prepared to take
a risk on a team that's in the top four
and as impressive as Hawthorne were last week. I don't
want to get sucked into thinking think about last week's
form exclusively because the month leading into that was poor.
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So because of that, I'm seeing last week is more
of an exception until proven otherwise. So for that reason,
and because I'm a few behind and I have to
make some tips up, which a lot of our listeners
will be as well, that's the reason for tipping Adelaide.
And Adelaide's form has been pretty good. I mean they
were I mean maybe a little bit lucky last week,
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but generally against the top teams they have been very competitive.
They're two and four against the top eight sides.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Good against They've been good against.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Push Gould Coast to the wire. I think there may
have been another performance in there where they are honorable
and defeat. So I feel their form against the top
teams has been better than Hawthorns, and their recent form
has been better than Hawthorns. So I'm tipping Adelaide one.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Hundred percent agree with you on all those points, except
that Hawthorne wins lawn system nine times out of ten.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And this will be the one out of ten, and
that get up.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's fine. I think the Hawks small forwards might worry Adelaide.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They might worry them, but I don't think they'll beat them. Saturday,
first game Brisbane again. It's Greater Western Sydney at the Gabba,
the rematch of what last year's semi final, where the
Giants really shouldn't have let Brisbane come back, but they did.
And now the Giants are. They're in a bit of
a hole, aren't they massive hole?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
They're horrendous.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well Field tell us about the midfield. They saying that
your family wouldn't listen to you.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, Nick Madam was pretty handy actually playing on daboo.
But Nick Madam was on Da boo. They had Tom Green,
as I said, Xavier O'Halloran locky midfield running through there.
Toby Bedford was tagging and was beaten comprehensively. They were
basically playing either second tier players or be greaters to
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be if you're.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Looking with a very good defender, he's not plugging holes
in the midfield.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And it showed because Butters and Bergmann played a bit
in there as well, and Drew were too good for
them and Ollie Wines and then they were able to
keep kind of Rosy just streaming off half back and
he was really good and they didn't have any answer
for it, particularly after they lost Toby Green, which obviously
didn't help them.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That looked, yeah, when we're getting those, I mean, it's
not serious injury in terms of this, but it's a
painful one.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Buttle, yeah, you can't run. He was trying to run
it out and Cadman I Reckon definitely called him back
into that mark and then just did a bit of
a Matador. It's like, oh mate, what are you doing
to me? So I Reckon he would have probably apologized
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to Taby Green. So for all those reasons that they're depleted,
their defense held up exceptionally well. Sam Taylor's a great
play and Jack Buckley's a really good ally to him.
Jesse Hogan's out of form. You had that great game
against Jolan, but apart from that hasn't been really hitting
the scoreboard. Brent Daniels will be handy because he only
played a second half, but he'll be back.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
In the important to them, your man, he's your man.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
We know that. It was funny. They said that he
had an abdominal injury, that only twenty percent of people
have the particular muscle that he's trained and it took
them ages to find it. Anyway, what the injury.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Was not taking while your abs as well? Have they?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well I did say that to someone. I said, there's
no muscles defined Brisbane lines. I'm tipping to win. Yeah,
I'll be smarty mate. They from last.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Week, well, well, Zach Bailey in particular, you'd hope you'd
be having extra shots after that.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Old Bayley, I have a good look at yourself. He's
a great player, so you can't knock him for that,
and you want to get off his own boot a
few years back.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Just had a bad night in front of the sticks. Yeah,
I think the Lions will win this. The Giants, they're
just two ue predictable at the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So unpredictable. I think it'll be a close game, actually,
but I think Brisbane will win.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It will be a better Giants performance, but I mean,
I don't think they've quite got the stability and the
personnel at the moment, and they're asking their defense to
do too much. It exactly defending sixty inside fifties every
week and still expect to keep the other team to
a losing score.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So when you're trying to move the ball from one
o the other against good teams, good luck.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Because sixty inside fifties, if they the other team's efficient,
it's going to be thirty scoring shots. Thirty scoring shots.
You go fifty to fifty, you're kicking over one hundred.
So for that reason, basic mass tipping the lines. They'll
be smart enoughter last week as you said, and they're
hard to beat at the Gabba, so and this will
be one of the games they get themselves up for
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the lines. The games where they let slip this year
or have underperformed have been against generally the bottom teams. Well,
I think it's probably a little bit of that maybe
Premiership hangover stuff where they it doesn't quite matter as
much to them in those games. But I think the
matches of consequence like this one will have a different mindset.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So for me, we're online all the time, just search
age real footy on Facebook or Twitter.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Next game Saturday Twilight against Geelong at the MCG. This
is that country game.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, I love this game. What a day on the
calendar back in particularly being country boys. As we both are.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Back, get a better time slot for the theme of
the game. Last year this was a night game which
didn't really do that.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It doesn't help the dairy farmers.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, nothing really helps them when you're going to get
up that early. But twilight game is just buy seven's
on the roads are okay coming out of Melbourne, which
they weren't this morning Wednesday morning, Then most people should
be able to get home in a reasonable hour. But
I think I saw us and the last week watch
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them play there, you can't help but admire the spirit
in which they're playing with. But they injuries are going
to catch up with them at some point and they're
going to turn in a stinker.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, well I'm the I think you're you're right. I
don't think it'll be this week though. Geelong generally take
a while to put as soon away, and as.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You well, the numbers suggest otherwise because their last they've
won seven in a row against Obama is an average
margin of fifty points.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's exactly my point.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Maybe it takes a while for them to get to that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Normally it's a hundred point, but I reckon that Geelong.
This is the sort of game that after a tough
game against gold Case and the where they just kind
of cruise into it reaching for the bye, and they're
going to be challenged. So I think they'll win, but
I don't think they'll win by a big margin.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think this could get ugly this one because I
think essen in the last two weeks underdogs underman they
put in really decent shifts, but up against an opponent
who I think will be there in the last second
last week at September and a team that just finds
a way to win every week. Last week against the
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against gold Coaster, I mean they gold Coast challenged them,
but they were just a bit tougher and harder for longer.
Jeremy Cameron will won a big one after a bit
of a quiet game last week and quite last week.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's done it. He was great for a couple of
weeks after Dangefield got injured, and then he was quite
last week. But was that because Dangerfield was back in
the team.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I think Mac Andrew is a pretty good player and
the conditions probably didn't help him. I mean, Dangerfield was
also quite last week in his first half.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's an interesting dynamic those two.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You can play cavern bit up the ground. A similar
type of players, aren't they, because they're both nimble at
ground level can take a mark. But I think Dangerfield
after that week off last week, probably helps him. I
think the Cats will win, probably by about six goals.
But it's Chris and Brad coaching against each other again,
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so yeah, we love that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Cats for me, Cats for me easy, eleven points.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Eleven points. I'm going by six goals plus and I'm
going to make them my lock. Good Saturday night footy,
we head West where North Melbourne host Fremantle at OPTAs Stadium.
This is the second league of their two week swing
at West Kangaroos. They sold one of their games last
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week and they got the win, so keeps the supporters happy.
Though I did notice there was a little bit of
discontent among the North Melbourne community even though they won.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah because the game is terrible one. Yeah, but the
game was shocking and they would have thought they were
further out of West Coast than they were and they
were probably a bit cranky and wound up in the
first three quarters when it looked like they were going
to lose. I wouldn't exactly do it comfortably, did they?
One thing I would say Colby mccirche was nearly best
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on ground, Harleey Reid had a few critical farm balls
and from what I remember was North Melbourne were roundly
criticized for winning that game against Gold Coast, which cost
them Harley Reed, or at least cost them the first pick,
which I assume would have been used on Harley Reid,
and they ended up with Colby mccirchey at picked two.
So in that battle they're one all mccurch's.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's good to say him playing well because his form
in the first six weeks of the year was carbery patchy.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Going back and he's playing better.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I still think Harley Read's a better player.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, I mean that's reasonable because he was pick one
and one was pick two. But when you're actually smashing
the club, this was one moment when they could say,
well there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What to say about how North Melbourne people feel about
how their team is progressing. When when you've won eighteen
out of one hundred and nineteen and you can't enjoy
a victory. That suggests to me that they think their
teams should be much further advanced than where they are now.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's been a long road and they probably promised a
better performance this year. They would have been hoping for
at least eight wins and competitive. They've got competitiveness, but
they haven't got the wins, and they were probably lucky
to fall over the line. Well, West Coast are in
all sorts of trouble, and Richmond they are lucky to
fall over the line too, so it hasn't been exactly
galloping away with it.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, but they've won. I mean they only won three
all of last year and they've already got three now.
So would they beat Frio I doubt it. The only
way they can beat three too is if Freemantle a
slow out of the blocks after the buye. But we
could happen. It's an experienced team.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They're one of the younger teams actually, but they're better.
They've got more experience and talent and they're at home.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, well they've got more older, Well, they're more experienced.
Players are better than Norse, so I think they've probably
got better young talent. But I think Freemantle win this
even without, even with Alex Pearce as a question mark.
Their form since or since that bizarre night against Saint
Kilden where they disgrace themselves, their form has actually have
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been pretty good and.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I think they're starting to move the ball and play
on after taking marks.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And Brashaw and so wrong back and form exactly twenty
seven points for me twenty two Richie two Sunday, Put
Adelaide against Melbourne Adelaide Oval just will be probably a
game of not too much consequence for the season, but
highly consequential for our tipping because this is a real
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fifty to fifty game.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah if tip mal but not with any confidence put Adelaide.
How can you tip in Melbourne? I just think, look
they're starting to get some stability. They were pretty good
against Collingwood, very good. Should have won a couple of
Black Bailey fish brain fades and Cousey Pickett's fifty penalty.
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Their planning was really good, Steven May despite the last
you know post saw an incident was really good. They've
got stability down back Maxican's star. They should have the
talent to overcome put Adelaide even though it's on put
Adelaide's home deck, and Jack Butter's, Connor Rosi, Miles Bergman
are outstanding.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And Jason horn Francis comes back in this week, so.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Which is which is big as well?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Given the tag I mean that tag Nick day course
last week that you'd think Zach Butter's probably cops on that.
That feels like a Clayton all of the job.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
More so than ed Langdon really well. Goodwin did make
the point that they're just picking players for particular players.
So Langdon, Viny Rivers, Rivers played on, Haney and Oliver
have all done run with rolls.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So interesting a chance to be back this week?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
He heard his risk in new Nellis Springs. I'm Timmy Melbourne,
but I haven't got a lot of confidence. As I said,
put Adelaide on their home deck are always hard to beat,
well not always, but generally yeah, harder to beat. I
think Melbourn's got the class just again. Can they kick
enough goals?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well they will, They'll be wasteful inside fifty who knows.
I'm tipping the days by goal only because their form
I think in the last month's been better than Port's
had lost four in a row before they won last week,
and maybe that was one of those games coming off
of Buy where can you have them wound up? And
they performed accordingly against a team that's been a little
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bit up and down, but the days have been a
bit more consistent after that first month.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Melbourne have to win these two if there are any
chance to make finals. Do you think, though they're not
outcome based as we.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Know, do you think they'll be in a position to
contend for finals going to the last month.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I haven't looked at their drawer, but they're a team
that is improving their style of play regardless.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, a couple of moments last week though the I
know we've spoken about Bailey fruits and a couple of
moments he'd liked to have again. But there was a
player I think Max Scorn took a mark in the
last quarter and he hanbled played on they had Melbourne
had three players around them and they kicked the ball long.
They should have been able to handle run it out
of fifty and they had a real chance to score.
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And that was the old Melbourne that under.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Pressure, that was deep in the back pocket. Oliver also
kicked down the full just threw it on his boot
at one point late in the game. They do revert
back to those old habits, but at least there.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It's not happening as often and.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
They're making in rags. You can see what they're trying
to do, which is good.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, final game of the round, blockbuster West Coast Agatest
Carlton off the stadium the well, it's not it's a mockbuster,
but it'll get a bigger crowd than some of the
other games this round because the Eagles. People love their footage,
because Blues are desperate to see a win. Well they have.
They have some following it West as well. Now the Eagles,
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can you make a case for them?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, I can. They've actually played. They're really good against Geelong.
They're unlucky, not unlucky. They just ran our legs against
North Melbourne. And I'd say Carlton fits squarely in the
middle of those two teams in terms of capability. They're
definitely beatable and they're beatable on the road. They will
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lackluster in the last three quarters, they can't finish games
out terribly well, and they're still working on a game
style that makes them feel confident that they can just
put away teams like West Coast. I don't think they
are good enough to just go, you know, well, rock up,
implement our game style and Winson win. They need to
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win in those areas we all know with Carnen center,
clearance and contest the ball, and they need the disappointments
up forward to actually turn some of their celebrations into goals.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well. I mean the last time they played Gathering, I
think you might have been at this game. Lowest ever
contested possession tally by tam West Coast. I think that's seventeen.
It was a shocking differential of minus fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
That was when Brady Off was a bit teary after
the game, yep, because he's played in so many losses
that he got a bit emotional about it, which is
fair enough. That's not a criticism, it's just it was
unusual to see. Yeah, I think Carlton will be too
good again because they did toy with West Coast, but
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West Coast will be keyed up to not repeat what
they did in Gathering.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, they surely have to be a bit more competitive.
I mean the last five times Carton that played West Coast,
it's an every margin is seventy five points, so that
they'll be a bit of ammunition for Andrew mccalter to
fire his players to try and get a better performance.
But first you said, I think their form has been better.
I mean their last five they've won, one lost too narrowly,
and they another one they lost and they were in it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Three quarter time, So that's they're definitely improving. A few
of those guys. Well, I had to but here it's.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Good Jimby in defense.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Jimmy has been good in defense. Obviously, Reid's got great talent.
They've got some things that you actually like about them.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But it'll be inexcusable with Cartlon don't win, especially with
Waterman out. Who else McGovern's Jimmy McGovern's unable to play
and do dom so, but there's a few, there's a
few in there who if.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
They win, they may as well book a flight to
watch the last couple of days of the Test match
or head to the US Open. Don't come Monday, is
that fair?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, it'd be a very eventful week at Princess Park.
I think if they don't get up Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I'd be reluctant to walk through the gates at Tullamarine.
You'll be there with YR cameras and what do you think.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Our producer will be there, who's on holiday right now. Yeah,
absolutely no, will be there with placards and eff.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I could be out there. Actually you might get set
there for a grab. Yeah, correct, No, carton easy.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Carlton Bye. I'm going fifteen points for me. I think
it'll be a competitive game. That's all we have time
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This is the Real Footy Podcast. Thanks for joining us
to tip around fourt eight. My name's Andrew wou and
today welcome back my old sparring partner Peter Ryan Fresh
for a week off in Canberra.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, I spent the weekend in Canberra visiting my daughter,
which was good, but I also went to Manica Oval
and watched that game between Port Adelaide and the Giants,
which reminded me how threadbare the Giants are in their midfield.
Tom Green he's a great player, but beyond that they
had Xavier O'Halloran who is emerging as a very good player.
But they had to run locky midfield anyway, They're depleted
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and Port Adelaide got them. So that was my excitement
in camera, and I.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Heard you explain to all that to your families. All
you dragged them out to Barnica.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Dragged my wife there, but my daughter actually I was
visiting her, but she went into a band.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You couldn't tempt her the footy with the deficiencies of
the Giants midfield, and I got to.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Say my wife wasn't particularly interested either, but went along
and we had a good night. And the Giants they
got twelve or ten or eleven thousand there, I think, well,
they are expecting that. I haven't actually checked the crowd,
but there's a reasonable atmosphere and it was not a
great game.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's a good place for footy actually, but you're.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sitting right on top of them. It felt like a
it's a country footy game a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I've covered a Test match there was.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That the one where Curtison, yeah made.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
A one hundred looked a million dollars and then it
hasn't played since.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So anyway, No, it's good, good to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well in your time off, you're still in second. Michael
Gleason still learning on seventy nine. You're on seventy eight,
Calum and Callum's third on seventy seven, Jakes on seventy five.
I've made a bit of a move. I've collected a
few stragglers in the last couple of weeks, so I'm
equal fifth with Mark McGowan and Jimmy Bartel. And I've
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been told I'm going to include this joke by the
producer that the three premierships of Browlowe and an All
Smith medal between us.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, that's good, and at what level you guys you
listeners can decide who wants jim Is in the Hall
of Fame, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm not sure he should be.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I've got a feeling he might be, but may not be,
but he should be at some point. It's certainly a
champion player and probably, let's say, a thousand times better
footballers than either of.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You, exactly exactly a thousand miles.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I was sted on Friday night because I was away,
but Zach Bailey that Brisbane Adelaide game was a bit Yeah,
I would have been a head aglaesi if he kicked straight.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You're putting it on him. Yeah. At the same game
I took the lines as well. He's a good player
and he just yeah, they all bottled it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Really, Yeah, they bothered it, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
They had that game that was sixty three goals up,
the last three goals inside.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Fifties a Brisbane gosh, another reason to kind of you know,
you don't want the reigning premiere going back to back,
do you really?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Unless your club you when I said that last year, But.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I know I respect Brisbane, but just as a general principle,
you'd prefer its spread and shared around a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, it depends on which other clubs are in the contention.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Good effort from Adelaide, but it's getting tougher. I reckon, Yeah,
I reckon. The last few weeks it's been like fives
and six's has been a passable score, whereas you want
to get up to the sevens and eighths RECOI are
you taking a risk? I know there's been less teams playing,
I get less games. I get that, but it's still
been tough.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well that's the key. I mean, you don't want to
be tipping favorites everywhere because if you tip all eight
or nine favorites, you generally don't get it right. But
the art and tipping is to find the underdog that
gets up because you can tip the wrong ones and
then suddenly you get four and everyone's got seven and
you got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
How do you go? By the way, just before you
start getting back from Geelong, broke down just.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Past the Little River Road exit. Ah, that's great. The
last I saw my car when I jumped in the cab,
it was sitting just on the emergency lane on the
Princess Highway, just past the Little River Road.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
When you come a name from a cold Gold Coast loss.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You know, there was a great game of footy though
Geelong and Gold Coast to cover. I just spent the
last spent the three hours waiting in the car reminiscing
Abou one of the best games of the seasons.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, make Shames was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He was very good. We'll get into that later. First
game of the round Saint Kilda against the Western Bulldogs
at Marvel Stadium Thursday night footy. The Saints have got
a the terrible record against the Bulldogs recently, but this
is one of the Bulldogs have to win because as
well as they've traveled this year as well, they've played
at times they lose this. They're six and seven and
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they'll be out of the eight by a game or so,
so trouble for them if they don't get up.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I very much agree with you. I'm tipping the Bulldogs.
They've got Sam Darcy back, your.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Man Sam Darcy, your number ten pick or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He was a bit of a miracle he's back so early.
I hope it goes well for him. Yeah, they just
have to win because I think the reality of the
Bulldogs is they're now in a fight for the top
eight as much as the top four, and they've been
good enough to be extremely competitive against good teams without
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necessarily getting the four points, and then they had a
low point last week, but it leaves them vulnerable in
these games you just can't afford to lose.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, they're one and six now against the teams in
the top eight, and I mean there was a lot
of talk last week about after the game the other
the dogs too reliant on clearance and whatever, But in
the end, that's over analysis. They just had one bad
quarter and they couldn't catch up for the rest of
the night.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I agree with that, and they let wedd All
go a bit mental.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He had a good game, didn't he. He's a good
player to watch, but he's got power, isn't he take
a market a great kick? But that was classic team
coming off the buy against another team that was revd
up for the game. So we saw that difference in
the first quarter, but after that it was pretty oven.
Rory Lobb, is he a bit of forward or a defender?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, he's a bit of defender.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It was all right forward.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's become a reliable player, which is something that you
wouldn't have said about Rory Lobb.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
He's become a reliable player, something that you never.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
No, no, no, I'm not that who cares what you were?
No no, but you're right.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
He has become a reliable player. It happens, We're going
to happens a lot when forwards move into defense. It's
probably an easy position to play, but a lot of
forwards who are sort of up and down as forwards
moving to defense and become really solid players.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And Melbourne isn't he He's played for as much a
stopgap as anything, but he's gone back and show that
he's got some qualities in jacksonlvas Jack Silvarney justin Leppish
was the classic one who's recruited as a Ford and
became a three time premiership Defender's helping more Western Bulldogs get.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
To the winners Bulldogs twenty one points for mate with
three points.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Three points, yeah, because Securita are going to strangle the
life out of him and it'll make it a low
scoring Well, they have.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
To win contest against the Bulldogs if you're going to
play that kind of game, because in the I think
the past two games they've played they've been smacked in
that area and beaten.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
By coming off confidence building.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Against Melbourne, who's formed had been pretty good up until then. Okay,
dogs for mate, Dogs for me. Next game Friday night footy.
We head down the lawn System where it's going to
be zero degrees on Friday night, literally zero. Yes, Hawthorne
against Adelaide. That's what the forecast said. That's a that's
a forecast low Friday night, so it might be two degrees.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Sam Mitchell take his top off and run around just
to show that there's no issue.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, as he press did.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I think the Hawks will get a lot of confidence
out of their win against the Bulldogs, and they're very
hard to beat at lawn Seston. So as much as
Adelaide a difficult opartner and have beaten them down there,
I think that Hawthorne will prevail.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
They have won seven on a row lawn Stein Hawthorne
and you know who they lost to the last time
to beat.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Them down there, Adelaide when Riley Tilthorpe, you're.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Man Adelaide beat them in round six twenty twenty three
by three points.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I remember that game. It was actually a really
good game. But that is why I'm to be an Adelaide. Sorry, Hawthorne,
your thoughts can Adelaide get it done.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm tipping the Cries because you can't tip favorites every game.
There's one of those games where you've got to take
a bit of a risk, and I'm prepared to take
a risk on a team that's in the top four
and as impressive as Hawthorne were last week. I don't
want to get sucked into thinking think about last week's
form exclusively because the month leading into that was poor.
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So because of that, I'm seeing last week is more
of an exception until proven otherwise. So for that reason,
and because I'm a few behind and I have to
make some tips up, which a lot of our listeners
will be as well, that's the reason for tipping Adelaide.
And Adelaide's form has been pretty good. I mean they
were I mean maybe a little bit lucky last week,
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but generally against the top teams they have been very competitive.
They're two and four against the top eight sides.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Good against They've been good against.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Push Gould Coast to the wire. I think there may
have been another performance in there where they are honorable
and defeat. So I feel their form against the top
teams has been better than Hawthorns, and their recent form
has been better than Hawthorns. So I'm tipping Adelaide one.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Hundred percent agree with you on all those points, except
that Hawthorne wins lawn system nine times out of ten.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And this will be the one out of ten, and
that get up.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's fine. I think the Hawks small forwards might worry Adelaide.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They might worry them, but I don't think they'll beat them. Saturday,
first game Brisbane again. It's Greater Western Sydney at the Gabba,
the rematch of what last year's semi final, where the
Giants really shouldn't have let Brisbane come back, but they did.
And now the Giants are. They're in a bit of
a hole, aren't they massive hole?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
They're horrendous.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well Field tell us about the midfield. They saying that
your family wouldn't listen to you.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, Nick Madam was pretty handy actually playing on daboo.
But Nick Madam was on Da boo. They had Tom Green,
as I said, Xavier O'Halloran locky midfield running through there.
Toby Bedford was tagging and was beaten comprehensively. They were
basically playing either second tier players or be greaters to
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be if you're.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Looking with a very good defender, he's not plugging holes
in the midfield.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And it showed because Butters and Bergmann played a bit
in there as well, and Drew were too good for
them and Ollie Wines and then they were able to
keep kind of Rosy just streaming off half back and
he was really good and they didn't have any answer
for it, particularly after they lost Toby Green, which obviously
didn't help them.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That looked, yeah, when we're getting those, I mean, it's
not serious injury in terms of this, but it's a
painful one.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Buttle, yeah, you can't run. He was trying to run
it out and Cadman I Reckon definitely called him back
into that mark and then just did a bit of
a Matador. It's like, oh mate, what are you doing
to me? So I Reckon he would have probably apologized
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to Taby Green. So for all those reasons that they're depleted,
their defense held up exceptionally well. Sam Taylor's a great
play and Jack Buckley's a really good ally to him.
Jesse Hogan's out of form. You had that great game
against Jolan, but apart from that hasn't been really hitting
the scoreboard. Brent Daniels will be handy because he only
played a second half, but he'll be back.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
In the important to them, your man, he's your man.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
We know that. It was funny. They said that he
had an abdominal injury, that only twenty percent of people
have the particular muscle that he's trained and it took
them ages to find it. Anyway, what the injury.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Was not taking while your abs as well? Have they?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well I did say that to someone. I said, there's
no muscles defined Brisbane lines. I'm tipping to win. Yeah,
I'll be smarty mate. They from last.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Week, well, well, Zach Bailey in particular, you'd hope you'd
be having extra shots after that.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Old Bayley, I have a good look at yourself. He's
a great player, so you can't knock him for that,
and you want to get off his own boot a
few years back.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Just had a bad night in front of the sticks. Yeah,
I think the Lions will win this. The Giants, they're
just two ue predictable at the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So unpredictable. I think it'll be a close game, actually,
but I think Brisbane will win.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It will be a better Giants performance, but I mean,
I don't think they've quite got the stability and the
personnel at the moment, and they're asking their defense to
do too much. It exactly defending sixty inside fifties every
week and still expect to keep the other team to
a losing score.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So when you're trying to move the ball from one
o the other against good teams, good luck.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Because sixty inside fifties, if they the other team's efficient,
it's going to be thirty scoring shots. Thirty scoring shots.
You go fifty to fifty, you're kicking over one hundred.
So for that reason, basic mass tipping the lines. They'll
be smart enoughter last week as you said, and they're
hard to beat at the Gabba, so and this will
be one of the games they get themselves up for
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the lines. The games where they let slip this year
or have underperformed have been against generally the bottom teams. Well,
I think it's probably a little bit of that maybe
Premiership hangover stuff where they it doesn't quite matter as
much to them in those games. But I think the
matches of consequence like this one will have a different mindset.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So for me, we're online all the time, just search
age real footy on Facebook or Twitter.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Next game Saturday Twilight against Geelong at the MCG. This
is that country game.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, I love this game. What a day on the
calendar back in particularly being country boys. As we both are.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Back, get a better time slot for the theme of
the game. Last year this was a night game which
didn't really do that.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It doesn't help the dairy farmers.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, nothing really helps them when you're going to get
up that early. But twilight game is just buy seven's
on the roads are okay coming out of Melbourne, which
they weren't this morning Wednesday morning, Then most people should
be able to get home in a reasonable hour. But
I think I saw us and the last week watch
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them play there, you can't help but admire the spirit
in which they're playing with. But they injuries are going
to catch up with them at some point and they're
going to turn in a stinker.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, well I'm the I think you're you're right. I
don't think it'll be this week though. Geelong generally take
a while to put as soon away, and as.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You well, the numbers suggest otherwise because their last they've
won seven in a row against Obama is an average
margin of fifty points.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's exactly my point.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Maybe it takes a while for them to get to that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Normally it's a hundred point, but I reckon that Geelong.
This is the sort of game that after a tough
game against gold Case and the where they just kind
of cruise into it reaching for the bye, and they're
going to be challenged. So I think they'll win, but
I don't think they'll win by a big margin.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think this could get ugly this one because I
think essen in the last two weeks underdogs underman they
put in really decent shifts, but up against an opponent
who I think will be there in the last second
last week at September and a team that just finds
a way to win every week. Last week against the
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against gold Coaster, I mean they gold Coast challenged them,
but they were just a bit tougher and harder for longer.
Jeremy Cameron will won a big one after a bit
of a quiet game last week and quite last week.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's done it. He was great for a couple of
weeks after Dangefield got injured, and then he was quite
last week. But was that because Dangerfield was back in
the team.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I think Mac Andrew is a pretty good player and
the conditions probably didn't help him. I mean, Dangerfield was
also quite last week in his first half.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's an interesting dynamic those two.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You can play cavern bit up the ground. A similar
type of players, aren't they, because they're both nimble at
ground level can take a mark. But I think Dangerfield
after that week off last week, probably helps him. I
think the Cats will win, probably by about six goals.
But it's Chris and Brad coaching against each other again,
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so yeah, we love that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Cats for me, Cats for me easy, eleven points.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Eleven points. I'm going by six goals plus and I'm
going to make them my lock. Good Saturday night footy,
we head West where North Melbourne host Fremantle at OPTAs Stadium.
This is the second league of their two week swing
at West Kangaroos. They sold one of their games last
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week and they got the win, so keeps the supporters happy.
Though I did notice there was a little bit of
discontent among the North Melbourne community even though they won.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah because the game is terrible one. Yeah, but the
game was shocking and they would have thought they were
further out of West Coast than they were and they
were probably a bit cranky and wound up in the
first three quarters when it looked like they were going
to lose. I wouldn't exactly do it comfortably, did they?
One thing I would say Colby mccirche was nearly best
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on ground, Harleey Reid had a few critical farm balls
and from what I remember was North Melbourne were roundly
criticized for winning that game against Gold Coast, which cost
them Harley Reed, or at least cost them the first pick,
which I assume would have been used on Harley Reid,
and they ended up with Colby mccirchey at picked two.
So in that battle they're one all mccurch's.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's good to say him playing well because his form
in the first six weeks of the year was carbery patchy.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Going back and he's playing better.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I still think Harley Read's a better player.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, I mean that's reasonable because he was pick one
and one was pick two. But when you're actually smashing
the club, this was one moment when they could say,
well there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What to say about how North Melbourne people feel about
how their team is progressing. When when you've won eighteen
out of one hundred and nineteen and you can't enjoy
a victory. That suggests to me that they think their
teams should be much further advanced than where they are now.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's been a long road and they probably promised a
better performance this year. They would have been hoping for
at least eight wins and competitive. They've got competitiveness, but
they haven't got the wins, and they were probably lucky
to fall over the line. Well, West Coast are in
all sorts of trouble, and Richmond they are lucky to
fall over the line too, so it hasn't been exactly
galloping away with it.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, but they've won. I mean they only won three
all of last year and they've already got three now.
So would they beat Frio I doubt it. The only
way they can beat three too is if Freemantle a
slow out of the blocks after the buye. But we
could happen. It's an experienced team.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They're one of the younger teams actually, but they're better.
They've got more experience and talent and they're at home.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, well they've got more older, Well, they're more experienced.
Players are better than Norse, so I think they've probably
got better young talent. But I think Freemantle win this
even without, even with Alex Pearce as a question mark.
Their form since or since that bizarre night against Saint
Kilden where they disgrace themselves, their form has actually have
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been pretty good and.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I think they're starting to move the ball and play
on after taking marks.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And Brashaw and so wrong back and form exactly twenty
seven points for me twenty two Richie two Sunday, Put
Adelaide against Melbourne Adelaide Oval just will be probably a
game of not too much consequence for the season, but
highly consequential for our tipping because this is a real
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fifty to fifty game.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah if tip mal but not with any confidence put Adelaide.
How can you tip in Melbourne? I just think, look
they're starting to get some stability. They were pretty good
against Collingwood, very good. Should have won a couple of
Black Bailey fish brain fades and Cousey Pickett's fifty penalty.
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Their planning was really good, Steven May despite the last
you know post saw an incident was really good. They've
got stability down back Maxican's star. They should have the
talent to overcome put Adelaide even though it's on put
Adelaide's home deck, and Jack Butter's, Connor Rosi, Miles Bergman
are outstanding.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And Jason horn Francis comes back in this week, so.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Which is which is big as well?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Given the tag I mean that tag Nick day course
last week that you'd think Zach Butter's probably cops on that.
That feels like a Clayton all of the job.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
More so than ed Langdon really well. Goodwin did make
the point that they're just picking players for particular players.
So Langdon, Viny Rivers, Rivers played on, Haney and Oliver
have all done run with rolls.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So interesting a chance to be back this week?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
He heard his risk in new Nellis Springs. I'm Timmy Melbourne,
but I haven't got a lot of confidence. As I said,
put Adelaide on their home deck are always hard to beat,
well not always, but generally yeah, harder to beat. I
think Melbourn's got the class just again. Can they kick
enough goals?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well they will, They'll be wasteful inside fifty who knows.
I'm tipping the days by goal only because their form
I think in the last month's been better than Port's
had lost four in a row before they won last week,
and maybe that was one of those games coming off
of Buy where can you have them wound up? And
they performed accordingly against a team that's been a little
(22:56):
bit up and down, but the days have been a
bit more consistent after that first month.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Melbourne have to win these two if there are any
chance to make finals. Do you think, though they're not
outcome based as we.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Know, do you think they'll be in a position to
contend for finals going to the last month.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I haven't looked at their drawer, but they're a team
that is improving their style of play regardless.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, a couple of moments last week though the I
know we've spoken about Bailey fruits and a couple of
moments he'd liked to have again. But there was a
player I think Max Scorn took a mark in the
last quarter and he hanbled played on they had Melbourne
had three players around them and they kicked the ball long.
They should have been able to handle run it out
of fifty and they had a real chance to score.
(23:38):
And that was the old Melbourne that under.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Pressure, that was deep in the back pocket. Oliver also
kicked down the full just threw it on his boot
at one point late in the game. They do revert
back to those old habits, but at least there.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It's not happening as often and.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
They're making in rags. You can see what they're trying
to do, which is good.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, final game of the round, blockbuster West Coast Agatest
Carlton off the stadium the well, it's not it's a mockbuster,
but it'll get a bigger crowd than some of the
other games this round because the Eagles. People love their footage,
because Blues are desperate to see a win. Well they have.
They have some following it West as well. Now the Eagles,
(24:22):
can you make a case for them?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, I can. They've actually played. They're really good against Geelong.
They're unlucky, not unlucky. They just ran our legs against
North Melbourne. And I'd say Carlton fits squarely in the
middle of those two teams in terms of capability. They're
definitely beatable and they're beatable on the road. They will
(24:44):
lackluster in the last three quarters, they can't finish games
out terribly well, and they're still working on a game
style that makes them feel confident that they can just
put away teams like West Coast. I don't think they
are good enough to just go, you know, well, rock up,
implement our game style and Winson win. They need to
(25:05):
win in those areas we all know with Carnen center,
clearance and contest the ball, and they need the disappointments
up forward to actually turn some of their celebrations into goals.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well. I mean the last time they played Gathering, I
think you might have been at this game. Lowest ever
contested possession tally by tam West Coast. I think that's seventeen.
It was a shocking differential of minus fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
That was when Brady Off was a bit teary after
the game, yep, because he's played in so many losses
that he got a bit emotional about it, which is
fair enough. That's not a criticism, it's just it was
unusual to see. Yeah, I think Carlton will be too
good again because they did toy with West Coast, but
(25:51):
West Coast will be keyed up to not repeat what
they did in Gathering.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, they surely have to be a bit more competitive.
I mean the last five times Carton that played West Coast,
it's an every margin is seventy five points, so that
they'll be a bit of ammunition for Andrew mccalter to
fire his players to try and get a better performance.
But first you said, I think their form has been better.
I mean their last five they've won, one lost too narrowly,
and they another one they lost and they were in it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Three quarter time, So that's they're definitely improving. A few
of those guys. Well, I had to but here it's.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Good Jimby in defense.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Jimmy has been good in defense. Obviously, Reid's got great talent.
They've got some things that you actually like about them.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But it'll be inexcusable with Cartlon don't win, especially with
Waterman out. Who else McGovern's Jimmy McGovern's unable to play
and do dom so, but there's a few, there's a
few in there who if.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
They win, they may as well book a flight to
watch the last couple of days of the Test match
or head to the US Open. Don't come Monday, is
that fair?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, it'd be a very eventful week at Princess Park.
I think if they don't get up Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I'd be reluctant to walk through the gates at Tullamarine.
You'll be there with YR cameras and what do you think.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Our producer will be there, who's on holiday right now. Yeah,
absolutely no, will be there with placards and eff.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I could be out there. Actually you might get set
there for a grab. Yeah, correct, No, carton easy.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Carlton Bye. I'm going fifteen points for me. I think
it'll be a competitive game. That's all we have time
for today. Thanks for joining us. You can see the
rest of the experts tips at Theage dot com dot
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(27:51):
to hear from you. The podcast will return on Monday
when Michael Gleason and the experts to give us all
the analysis from the weekend. Thanks for listening and may
I team win or may your team win.
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