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September 15, 2025 58 mins

What if retirement wasn’t a one-time event at the end of a long career, but a rhythm you could build into your life right now?

In this episode, we're joined by the brilliant Jillian Johnsrud, whose new book Retire Often flips the script on traditional retirement. Instead of waiting 40 years to enjoy life, Jillian makes the case for taking intentional mini-retirements throughout your career by taking one month off every couple of years….not to escape your life, but to design it.

Jillian drops a 6.5% rule that reframes everything you’ve been taught about budgeting for time off. And we both realize: we’ve been doing mini-retirements, we just didn’t have the language for it.

So together, we unpack:

  • Why a single month can be more transformative than you think
  • What burnout actually feels like (and why most of us misread it)
  • The financial math behind taking breaks without going broke
  • Why your future self will thank you for planning now
  • How to pitch a break to your boss and mean it

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