December 18, 2025 • 20 mins
The Game sparks debate by claiming men should spend at least $5,000 a month on their woman, igniting strong opinions from the RSMS crew and listeners alike.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You don't need no gun control.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know what you need.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
We need some bullet controlling. We need the man we
need to control the bullets. That's right. I think all bullet.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet,
you know what, because if a bullet costs five thousand dollars,
there'd be no more innocent bystanding right at the time
somebody gets shot, like dad, he must have did some.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Sit that's for fifty thousand dollars the bullets.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
In his head.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
If people will thakful for they kill.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Somebody, if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, men.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Man, I would blow your head off if I could
afford it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Right, I'm gonna kick me another job. I'm gonna start
saving some money if you with that man right, one
bulley five thousand dollars. That's Chris rock y'all all right,
rich amount of morning.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So Gary has the t in the Coloraday Gary, Good morning,
Good morning, rigging good money in America, Good mone on you.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
Is Thursday, the week before Christmas, and here's what's happening
in celebrity news, y'all, Ray J and Brandy's Mama Baby
Miss not Miss Son and Norma.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Baby is firmly y'all. Listen what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
She is firmly, y'all, backing her son's baby in court
as his legal fight y'all with Kim Kardashia and her mama,
Miss christ Jenner. Baby continue you to escalate baby, missus.
She said she's standing by her son's side.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Honey. Now they're saying, y'all.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
According to US Weekly, Miss Norwa seventy five yards. She
filed a declaration y'all on December the twelfth, y'all in
support of ray J's motion y'all to dismiss the the
defamation lawsuit that was tried against her son.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Let me see you, I can't see how I put
them little Darryl glasses on my da.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Anyway, y'all, she's supporting ray J's motion'aw to dismiss the
deformation lawsuit foul against him, honey by Kim Kardashian and
her mama. Now in the Father Baby, Miss Norway recounts, honey,
long standing attention baby between the families that date back
more than a decade ago. Now, Miss Norwa staying y'all
that in and around two thousand eight, y'all, she discovered
here this, y'all, and I talked about this before that
(02:08):
Kim card Nash Baby and her siblings Honey had accumulated
approximately eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars Honey and authorized
credit card charging Baby tied to the members of her family,
which mean there saying alleged Kim was stealing. Now, y'all, honey,
they said, she said, Honey, that she informed ray J
up the alleged JEP before following her own lawsuit against
the car Dashian siblings.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Honey that case y'all was hunting.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Later of seven in two thousand and nine, Now Kim
and her mama y'all suited ray J back in our told,
but accused him of making false public statements suggesting that
they were under federal investigation, not a lawsuit. Points hunting
to a September two, twenty twenty five live treatment in
which ray J reference honey potential reco case and compared
it to the high profile charges facing Sean Di the Coombs.
(02:52):
Now the player y'all insists hundred that there's no such
investigation exists. Now ray J had sinned, y'all countersuit on
reviving this you surrounding the two thousand and six sex
tape and alleged y'all deception and contract breaches. Now Judge
y'all had asked of yet to rule up this man.
Now according to the court rugords, i've taped by us.
We miss normal five the declaration yard back then, you know,
(03:14):
and what have you?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
The thing about it is, though, honey, we all know this,
the car Dashians got rich off of ray Jaia mean
people standing like they're crazy. Km used to work for
ray Jada rich Ye ain't started off that tape, but alleged,
like they said, Kim used to work Jata.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Man was stealing.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
She was allegedly using credit cards and so so misnamed
with them credit cards and was shopping, Honey, trying to
bring her family up and stuff.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
And now all, I don't think she was stealing, like
trying to bring her family up, Gary.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So what she was just stealing just to be stealing.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
I just don't really even think she was probably stealing.
I just think sometimes you know, when a worker has
your credit card and they buy stuff, sometimes they buy
extra stuff, sometimes they like I don't really know the situation.
She may have been stealing, but I really don't feel
like she definitely wasn't doing it to bring her family up.
Her stepfather was steal Bruce Jenner.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Back then, well yeah, but her daddy was.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Had some money too, and her daddy was a good lawyer.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The money, yeah, but allegedly that's true too. But they
may have had money. But that don't mean that when
you reach that would make you steal more people.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
I have never when I worked for Rick, somebody that
never stole or used his credit card to do nothing.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I mean, sometimes it's not malicious, Gary about yourself, and
you do by yourself stuff a couple of times, you see,
But if you do that without asking, that's stealing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, because I said king one times for yourself.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh hell, I was hungry, but you.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Gotta ask first. Stealing stealing, honey. That's the same thing
with Kim car gathering.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It was just gathering. The law calls that theft.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You pay back.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I paid it back. He did know he did.
Come on, you look like you then.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Don't give no Christmas presents and then talking about what
you were, you know, trying to figure out how were
looking this year?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
We bad. They couldn't snap benefit.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
But anyway, Honey, Yes she did, and I feel so
bad for Miss Normal and they had to sue her
hunter to get their money back.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Bread.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I know you might like the Kardashian I know you
even love Radio the more, but Honey, it is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I mean, you know, when you're taking and not asking.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
It's just two sads to every story. Yes I love
Raja and yes I love the Kardashians. But you know,
I guess if they go to courtA to all play
out in court, you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Geary,
It's not be like everybody else and make them guilty first.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
I think it was guilty into approven innocent garry. But anyway,
moving on, Honey is feeling guilty of proving Tamar Baxter.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Baby, this girl is spending no record straight.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Baby, after rumor surface hundred question her relationship went bird Man, Honey, Yes, yeah,
Now they said that the R and B singing reality
TV start firmly than not any romantic involvement with her
brother in Life's playing that she actually, Honey, helped introduce
him to Now I'm talking you Tony Brad.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
Now.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
She was on the Sherivy Show the other day y'all,
And they say Tamar shut it down, honey, with speculation
linking Horney her to the cash Money Ruggus co founder. Now,
Brian and I were friends first, she said, Honey referred
to Birdman by his legal name, and like real Playtonic friends,
he was actually Honey dating one of my friends a
long time ago. So when they broke up, Brian and
I became really good friends.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Ay o.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
That bird Man later pursued Tony Honey after her divorce
from Carrie Lewis, and so when Tony got a divorce,
bird Man was serious about her and made baby his
way on in now dressing claim from her from sister Tiwanda,
Tamar said that the accusation hurt because the man involved
was abusive that she was going through. She also described
Birdman as a brother Honey, and joked about wiping water
(06:46):
Honey not swept off him during that versus team Now
and Tony Bradston who married Birdman, Yeah, who are married
Berrman last Augusty I resentally called him her bessie, adding
I'm a hopeless romantic.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's agent, y'all. So then that touching.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
So why would they say that about Tamo Tamo, wouldn't
dad do it. That's her brother in law.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't believe she would do nothing. She wouldn't do that.
She's not that vicious.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And Tamar got a man, honey, like Shante got went
at home. Tam, I have a man at home. Oh
my god. The Colada day is one of my favorite colorde.
My colude today y'all is carnation. On the higher you
say carnation, and on the Lord just say beautiful. Pin God,
that's a great winter color. Yeah, all right, y'all, y'all
give it up.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And Gary with the t.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yes saw them old ladies. Boy, they'll leave out on
your voicemail. All right, y'all, we're talking about relationships and
money today. When daty should a man pay his woman's deals?
West Coast Wrapp of the game, he seems to think so.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, Ricky.
Speaker 8 (07:50):
He was recently on Club Sha Shae and he told
Shannon Sharp the man should stay single unless they ready
to give that woman at least five thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Check this out.
Speaker 10 (07:58):
You was saying the man should stay single. Left they're
ready for a two week minimum of two hundred dollars.
Last years three hundred dollars here, two fifty nails, two
hundred toes, two hundred makeup, five hundred lunch money, five
hundred drink with the homegirls, and one thousand dollars for
clothes not including rent, car note bill.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Help.
Speaker 11 (08:13):
Yeah, I think that that is bare minimum for a
woman that you're taking serious.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So that's like five that's like five six random monk game,
that's and that's that's low. That ain't you know? Five grand?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah for a la that's really low. Like we live
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 11 (08:25):
Yeah, if you if you even if you get a
woman five grand, right, and she has a decent apartment,
that's you know, it's twenty seven hundred for decent easy.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
She has a car, no car.
Speaker 11 (08:35):
Assurance, that's gonna be about a thousand, So that's thirty seven, right,
she got a ride the bus for her seven herself care,
her self care man, that's gonna be about a thousand.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, you want to look nice.
Speaker 11 (08:46):
Now you have forty seven hundred sit in the bill
sell for a bill all that she's gonna be flat broke.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So today we want to know that you agree with
the games. Should a man be responsible for paying his
woman bills? Especially what you're about to say.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There's a between your woman and your wife message.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
If it's your woman, why are you paying this woman
bill that you ain't got no tie you, you ain't
got no papers on her.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But you're trying to get her to be your wife?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like are you trying to impress it? And that's what
the gentleman's like.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Putting on a real it ain't it, ain't.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Yours whatever, spoil it while you got it, and then
she's gonna go on to take all that to the nature.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
If it was hurting you to do it, you shouldn't
stop doing it in.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
The first ya.
Speaker 12 (09:28):
No, I disagree with her, I mean, somewhat.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Break it down.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We want to know, well, I don't think you know.
Speaker 12 (09:37):
I think it's nice when a man pays for your
hair or your nails or buys you something, But I
don't think his responsibility to pay all of your bills,
like your rent, if you're not married or you know,
engaged at least.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Okay, Gary, that bothers me.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
I agree with the damn game because, for the first
of all, if I was dating, I thought that growing up,
my daddy took care of every day and me and
the damn y'all want to sit here and sleep with
these women and wait until they.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Let's start with that you said, sleeping with the women.
She gets some. She gets some too.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Yeah, but honey, the woman, honey is showing off.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This is who you.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thank you represented part in impressing the man, what her party,
what she do for you.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Okay, that's fair, but it's just your turn.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It don't matter. You caught that hook when she threw.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Out, and it bothers me because I get took a
man a complaint the woman.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I don't give a damn. She your girlfriend, all your
she represents you.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
You don't you want to know that's Ricky's girlfriend looking
nice and not.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Looking like something something thrown away. I tell you what.
I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You come to a party, and if you see her
chick sitting over in the corner and all her stuff
is together and she quiet, that's yours brows and she's sophisticated,
you gonna know off the off the top who woman.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
That is exactly she was?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Okay, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I don't I don't have a I don't have a
problem with it or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
As long as she's peaceful, not combative, and nice and
helped me. You know what I'm saying, help me help her.
And we're a team together. I do anything. You know,
we're working together as a team. Come on, ye what
do you think, ron?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I got a confession, man. So when me and Krystal
was dating before we got married, tell it. She had
a hoop tie. Her car was raggedy, kind of barely
on the road, so she was a love.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
She brought her the I told, what the hell that's
going on.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I told her to park the car and I let
her drive my car.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
And then, you know, eventually I upgraded her and got
a little new ride or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
But I knew that she was gonna be my wife
one day.
Speaker 12 (11:41):
So many people upgraded me and I ain't not.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
My husband.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Was a doctor, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know, And I never get it.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
When me and Alfres and went to the store on time,
Alfres had these two guys she was dating from home. Well,
and she puts stuff on the register and she said,
whoever paid for it, that's what she was gonna date.
Speaker 12 (12:15):
Thank you, Jemmy, make me look like a straight ho whoa.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
I was so young, she was young, you know, but
I mean, you know, hell where he was at I'm
talking That's why I'm saying I kind of partly agree
with John.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I'm talking about on the whole milk, right, Rock.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
To your lawyer, what you say, Rock, I'm talking to
get home and let's go to the ball. Say sixty
six nine, Ricky, good morning.
Speaker 13 (12:50):
No, my name is Lewis Bridge. I'm from North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh no, not really.
Speaker 13 (12:55):
I've been married for.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Thirty seven years and I paid as land.
Speaker 14 (12:59):
I paid for the home, the water, the electric, consurance,
and her bills are her bills.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And I do that to give.
Speaker 13 (13:07):
Her the opportunity to pay for her own bill. So no,
I don't think I should pay her bills.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
However, as a man.
Speaker 13 (13:12):
You should take all of the household and car responsibility.
Speaker 14 (13:16):
Hi, this is Kiss calling from o'calla, Florida.
Speaker 15 (13:21):
And I think that her bills.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Is his bill, and his bills is her bills. If
y'all together, y'all won, and y'all better figure it out.
So yeah, and no, but mostly yeah, because my man
paid my bills.
Speaker 14 (13:36):
Were going this tied from Upper Marlborough and if you together,
those are y'all bill. Not it was not just her bills,
Those are y'all bills. So I think that y'all both
should be paying your bills together, because if one persons
in the dark, both y'all will be in the dark.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
All right, I got something to say, I got something.
I'm gonna put this thing I'm gonna bring that baby
is just for me from a man's perspective, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Say all of that. Oh it's conning. Oh Garrett, don't
look at me like that. It's conning.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it, but I
ain't gonna see it right now. I'm gonna say it
right up there.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We want to know.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
My whole argument is my whole David, you might not
have us in Q. My whole art argument is.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Take care of your woman.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You know.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
He said on Shannon's Shop that women should stay single,
that men should stay single unless they're ready to give
that women at least five thousand dollars a month, you
know what I'm saying, and pay all their bills.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He is ain't necessarily five thousand months.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Like you may add up, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like you're getting to check for five thousand dollars. But
my thing is, like, you know, just is she making.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Sure you good? Make sure she good? If she's peaceful.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It ain't messy, it ain't causing no problems in the house,
and she's bringing coming with solutions, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Or whatever you do, she's helpful to you help each other.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I would do anything exactly somebody that's that's helpful
and thoughtful and to make your life easy and saying, hey,
I know you don't like to be bothered. Sign and
talk to the person down at the theater. It's the
side that we're gonna go and watch a movie. I
got a little spot we could go to and have
a nice little dinner. Or ain't nobody sitting there with their
phone recording us? You know what I'm saying, Like little
(15:20):
stuff like hey, I'm gonna help you unpack or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know what I'm saying. Because you're going on the
road making the money, you can't.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Be with nobody that disturbed you while you make help
her that part.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
But when did this thing come? We split?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I ain't never splitting, and I was married for twelve years.
My wife never paid a bill ever, and I wasn't
even on comic view.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Then what about for regular dudes that work, like you know,
at an auto park store, he made him to thirteen
dollars an hour, him too to take everything.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Okay, but if he ain't making but four hundred dollars
a week, it's different levels to it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
They got no bible or what if they got good
binding chemistry and they love each other and she a judged.
She might be making one thing, he might be making
fifty or sixty.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
Well, that's up to him because usually the man always
get intimidated when the woman makes more money.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
As long as she ain't coming home treating him like
he in court.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And that's you know, the roles that we play when
we get in the house and get together and she
still love on him and treat them like a king
because he's.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Busting his am because she's not emasculating them.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Right that part, thank you.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
But he got to know that it's going to become
something bigger. It can't just be everybody you date, you
pay all their bills. You don't have number two months. Okay,
but what if you really like her is what we're saying.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But does she really like you?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Is she really investing in becoming a real party.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
A good judge have And you've made a lot of
bad decisions. Women intuition, and some guys have great intuitions
and they know when they feel like it's their person
and automatically in the beginning of relationship, you want you
want to impress them, you want to spoil them, you
want to show them what you could do, but you
also have to show them love and all of your
other sides.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Like that's what courting and dating is about.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I think some women out there use guys knowing that
they knowing that they don't really like them, but they.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Got it, Like we got a gate all you need
a radar?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, but boy, is she? Is she beautiful? Peaceful? And
let me say peaceful again? Peaceful?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Beautiful, peaceful offers solutions to little things or whatever, because
when you're an executive, you make an executive decisions and
on the job you don't need nobody bothering you about
the little small stuff or whatever. What happened and the
carpet in the corner and came a looser argumentative and
sending you crazy ugly women don't deserve to be spoiled.
(17:50):
You said, is she beautiful? What is she beautiful? On
the you know, on the inside and outside.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
A beautiful person that attractive, don't they just to get
the bi.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Not the most attracted, to be the nicest names dated,
and women that wasn't the most attracted, that was very
without most respects.
Speaker 14 (18:09):
And to.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Think of some meshed potatoes.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
That even my reason to espress her to the tre
she ain't sitting up and I hadn't feel like easter
basket grass.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Let's go to the phone, yester morning.
Speaker 16 (18:33):
I know it depends on if the man is your husband,
but it is just your man man, y'all. They No,
he shouldn't be responsible for your bills, should give you,
maybe give you something every now and then just to
treat you, but be responsible for your bills. No, he
ain't living with you, he gets your man. No, he
shouldn't be paying your bill.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I do not agree.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I think they's unreleasing. They spake someone to just carry
the load. Now, if you meet a man and he's
just a provider and he can do those things, that's great.
But until expect the man to pay everything all by
himself just because he's your man, or he has to
say stay single. That's insane to me.
Speaker 13 (19:18):
This is Bishop coming calling from out of Saint Petersburg,
representing New Jersey to the bullets though, And I think
that the game. It's very easy for somebody who's a
multi millionaire to say that's going to pay somebody's bills.
But for the manager at Walmart who's dating the na,
how is he going to pay his bill and her bill?
(19:40):
And they don't have enough money to do that. They
only have enough money to pay their own bill.
Speaker 15 (19:45):
Dmi Trice Whitby from Making Georgia. I don't understand where
did men tis to pay for women's bills? What happened
to have and hanced you pay yours? He played years.
That's just how I feel.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I'm I'm so sitting on this town things. I'm just
so sorry, honey. He should pay everything. If he want
to pay everything, let him pay everything.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
What happened in the day with Miss Maimie and mister
Jeff had twenty damn children, and mister Jeff paid everything
working in the field, and he took cat many had
that fire, had that fire.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
She wore slippings, black stockings and white shoes and kidding
heels
You don't need no gun control.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know what you need.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
We need some bullet controlling. We need the man we
need to control the bullets. That's right. I think all bullet.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet,
you know what, because if a bullet costs five thousand dollars,
there'd be no more innocent bystanding right at the time
somebody gets shot, like dad, he must have did some.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Sit that's for fifty thousand dollars the bullets.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
In his head.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
If people will thakful for they kill.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Somebody, if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, men.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Man, I would blow your head off if I could
afford it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Right, I'm gonna kick me another job. I'm gonna start
saving some money if you with that man right, one
bulley five thousand dollars. That's Chris rock y'all all right,
rich amount of morning.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So Gary has the t in the Coloraday Gary, Good morning,
Good morning, rigging good money in America, Good mone on you.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
Is Thursday, the week before Christmas, and here's what's happening
in celebrity news, y'all, Ray J and Brandy's Mama Baby
Miss not Miss Son and Norma.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Baby is firmly y'all. Listen what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
She is firmly, y'all, backing her son's baby in court
as his legal fight y'all with Kim Kardashia and her mama,
Miss christ Jenner. Baby continue you to escalate baby, missus.
She said she's standing by her son's side.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Honey. Now they're saying, y'all.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
According to US Weekly, Miss Norwa seventy five yards. She
filed a declaration y'all on December the twelfth, y'all in
support of ray J's motion y'all to dismiss the the
defamation lawsuit that was tried against her son.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Let me see you, I can't see how I put
them little Darryl glasses on my da.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Anyway, y'all, she's supporting ray J's motion'aw to dismiss the
deformation lawsuit foul against him, honey by Kim Kardashian and
her mama. Now in the Father Baby, Miss Norway recounts, honey,
long standing attention baby between the families that date back
more than a decade ago. Now, Miss Norwa staying y'all
that in and around two thousand eight, y'all, she discovered
here this, y'all, and I talked about this before that
(02:08):
Kim card Nash Baby and her siblings Honey had accumulated
approximately eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars Honey and authorized
credit card charging Baby tied to the members of her family,
which mean there saying alleged Kim was stealing. Now, y'all, honey,
they said, she said, Honey, that she informed ray J
up the alleged JEP before following her own lawsuit against
the car Dashian siblings.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Honey that case y'all was hunting.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Later of seven in two thousand and nine, Now Kim
and her mama y'all suited ray J back in our told,
but accused him of making false public statements suggesting that
they were under federal investigation, not a lawsuit. Points hunting
to a September two, twenty twenty five live treatment in
which ray J reference honey potential reco case and compared
it to the high profile charges facing Sean Di the Coombs.
(02:52):
Now the player y'all insists hundred that there's no such
investigation exists. Now ray J had sinned, y'all countersuit on
reviving this you surrounding the two thousand and six sex
tape and alleged y'all deception and contract breaches. Now Judge
y'all had asked of yet to rule up this man.
Now according to the court rugords, i've taped by us.
We miss normal five the declaration yard back then, you know,
(03:14):
and what have you?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
The thing about it is, though, honey, we all know this,
the car Dashians got rich off of ray Jaia mean
people standing like they're crazy. Km used to work for
ray Jada rich Ye ain't started off that tape, but alleged,
like they said, Kim used to work Jata.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Man was stealing.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
She was allegedly using credit cards and so so misnamed
with them credit cards and was shopping, Honey, trying to
bring her family up and stuff.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
And now all, I don't think she was stealing, like
trying to bring her family up, Gary.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So what she was just stealing just to be stealing.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
I just don't really even think she was probably stealing.
I just think sometimes you know, when a worker has
your credit card and they buy stuff, sometimes they buy
extra stuff, sometimes they like I don't really know the situation.
She may have been stealing, but I really don't feel
like she definitely wasn't doing it to bring her family up.
Her stepfather was steal Bruce Jenner.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Back then, well yeah, but her daddy was.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Had some money too, and her daddy was a good lawyer.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The money, yeah, but allegedly that's true too. But they
may have had money. But that don't mean that when
you reach that would make you steal more people.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
I have never when I worked for Rick, somebody that
never stole or used his credit card to do nothing.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I mean, sometimes it's not malicious, Gary about yourself, and
you do by yourself stuff a couple of times, you see,
But if you do that without asking, that's stealing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, because I said king one times for yourself.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh hell, I was hungry, but you.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Gotta ask first. Stealing stealing, honey. That's the same thing
with Kim car gathering.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It was just gathering. The law calls that theft.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You pay back.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I paid it back. He did know he did.
Come on, you look like you then.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Don't give no Christmas presents and then talking about what
you were, you know, trying to figure out how were
looking this year?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
We bad. They couldn't snap benefit.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
But anyway, Honey, Yes she did, and I feel so
bad for Miss Normal and they had to sue her
hunter to get their money back.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Bread.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I know you might like the Kardashian I know you
even love Radio the more, but Honey, it is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I mean, you know, when you're taking and not asking.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
It's just two sads to every story. Yes I love
Raja and yes I love the Kardashians. But you know,
I guess if they go to courtA to all play
out in court, you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Geary,
It's not be like everybody else and make them guilty first.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
I think it was guilty into approven innocent garry. But anyway,
moving on, Honey is feeling guilty of proving Tamar Baxter.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Baby, this girl is spending no record straight.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Baby, after rumor surface hundred question her relationship went bird Man, Honey, Yes, yeah,
Now they said that the R and B singing reality
TV start firmly than not any romantic involvement with her
brother in Life's playing that she actually, Honey, helped introduce
him to Now I'm talking you Tony Brad.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
Now.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
She was on the Sherivy Show the other day y'all,
And they say Tamar shut it down, honey, with speculation
linking Horney her to the cash Money Ruggus co founder. Now,
Brian and I were friends first, she said, Honey referred
to Birdman by his legal name, and like real Playtonic friends,
he was actually Honey dating one of my friends a
long time ago. So when they broke up, Brian and
I became really good friends.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Ay o.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
That bird Man later pursued Tony Honey after her divorce
from Carrie Lewis, and so when Tony got a divorce,
bird Man was serious about her and made baby his
way on in now dressing claim from her from sister Tiwanda,
Tamar said that the accusation hurt because the man involved
was abusive that she was going through. She also described
Birdman as a brother Honey, and joked about wiping water
(06:46):
Honey not swept off him during that versus team Now
and Tony Bradston who married Birdman, Yeah, who are married
Berrman last Augusty I resentally called him her bessie, adding
I'm a hopeless romantic.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's agent, y'all. So then that touching.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
So why would they say that about Tamo Tamo, wouldn't
dad do it. That's her brother in law.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't believe she would do nothing. She wouldn't do that.
She's not that vicious.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And Tamar got a man, honey, like Shante got went
at home. Tam, I have a man at home. Oh
my god. The Colada day is one of my favorite colorde.
My colude today y'all is carnation. On the higher you
say carnation, and on the Lord just say beautiful. Pin God,
that's a great winter color. Yeah, all right, y'all, y'all
give it up.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And Gary with the t.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yes saw them old ladies. Boy, they'll leave out on
your voicemail. All right, y'all, we're talking about relationships and
money today. When daty should a man pay his woman's deals?
West Coast Wrapp of the game, he seems to think so.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, Ricky.
Speaker 8 (07:50):
He was recently on Club Sha Shae and he told
Shannon Sharp the man should stay single unless they ready
to give that woman at least five thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Check this out.
Speaker 10 (07:58):
You was saying the man should stay single. Left they're
ready for a two week minimum of two hundred dollars.
Last years three hundred dollars here, two fifty nails, two
hundred toes, two hundred makeup, five hundred lunch money, five
hundred drink with the homegirls, and one thousand dollars for
clothes not including rent, car note bill.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Help.
Speaker 11 (08:13):
Yeah, I think that that is bare minimum for a
woman that you're taking serious.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So that's like five that's like five six random monk game,
that's and that's that's low. That ain't you know? Five grand?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah for a la that's really low. Like we live
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 11 (08:25):
Yeah, if you if you even if you get a
woman five grand, right, and she has a decent apartment,
that's you know, it's twenty seven hundred for decent easy.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
She has a car, no car.
Speaker 11 (08:35):
Assurance, that's gonna be about a thousand, So that's thirty seven, right,
she got a ride the bus for her seven herself care,
her self care man, that's gonna be about a thousand.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, you want to look nice.
Speaker 11 (08:46):
Now you have forty seven hundred sit in the bill
sell for a bill all that she's gonna be flat broke.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So today we want to know that you agree with
the games. Should a man be responsible for paying his
woman bills? Especially what you're about to say.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There's a between your woman and your wife message.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
If it's your woman, why are you paying this woman
bill that you ain't got no tie you, you ain't
got no papers on her.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But you're trying to get her to be your wife?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like are you trying to impress it? And that's what
the gentleman's like.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Putting on a real it ain't it, ain't.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Yours whatever, spoil it while you got it, and then
she's gonna go on to take all that to the nature.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
If it was hurting you to do it, you shouldn't
stop doing it in.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
The first ya.
Speaker 12 (09:28):
No, I disagree with her, I mean, somewhat.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Break it down.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We want to know, well, I don't think you know.
Speaker 12 (09:37):
I think it's nice when a man pays for your
hair or your nails or buys you something, But I
don't think his responsibility to pay all of your bills,
like your rent, if you're not married or you know,
engaged at least.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Okay, Gary, that bothers me.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
I agree with the damn game because, for the first
of all, if I was dating, I thought that growing up,
my daddy took care of every day and me and
the damn y'all want to sit here and sleep with
these women and wait until they.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Let's start with that you said, sleeping with the women.
She gets some. She gets some too.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Yeah, but honey, the woman, honey is showing off.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This is who you.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thank you represented part in impressing the man, what her party,
what she do for you.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Okay, that's fair, but it's just your turn.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It don't matter. You caught that hook when she threw.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Out, and it bothers me because I get took a
man a complaint the woman.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I don't give a damn. She your girlfriend, all your
she represents you.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
You don't you want to know that's Ricky's girlfriend looking
nice and not.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Looking like something something thrown away. I tell you what.
I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You come to a party, and if you see her
chick sitting over in the corner and all her stuff
is together and she quiet, that's yours brows and she's sophisticated,
you gonna know off the off the top who woman.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
That is exactly she was?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Okay, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I don't I don't have a I don't have a
problem with it or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
As long as she's peaceful, not combative, and nice and
helped me. You know what I'm saying, help me help her.
And we're a team together. I do anything. You know,
we're working together as a team. Come on, ye what
do you think, ron?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I got a confession, man. So when me and Krystal
was dating before we got married, tell it. She had
a hoop tie. Her car was raggedy, kind of barely
on the road, so she was a love.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
She brought her the I told, what the hell that's
going on.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I told her to park the car and I let
her drive my car.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
And then, you know, eventually I upgraded her and got
a little new ride or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
But I knew that she was gonna be my wife
one day.
Speaker 12 (11:41):
So many people upgraded me and I ain't not.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
My husband.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Was a doctor, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know, And I never get it.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
When me and Alfres and went to the store on time,
Alfres had these two guys she was dating from home. Well,
and she puts stuff on the register and she said,
whoever paid for it, that's what she was gonna date.
Speaker 12 (12:15):
Thank you, Jemmy, make me look like a straight ho whoa.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
I was so young, she was young, you know, but
I mean, you know, hell where he was at I'm
talking That's why I'm saying I kind of partly agree
with John.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I'm talking about on the whole milk, right, Rock.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
To your lawyer, what you say, Rock, I'm talking to
get home and let's go to the ball. Say sixty
six nine, Ricky, good morning.
Speaker 13 (12:50):
No, my name is Lewis Bridge. I'm from North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh no, not really.
Speaker 13 (12:55):
I've been married for.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Thirty seven years and I paid as land.
Speaker 14 (12:59):
I paid for the home, the water, the electric, consurance,
and her bills are her bills.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And I do that to give.
Speaker 13 (13:07):
Her the opportunity to pay for her own bill. So no,
I don't think I should pay her bills.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
However, as a man.
Speaker 13 (13:12):
You should take all of the household and car responsibility.
Speaker 14 (13:16):
Hi, this is Kiss calling from o'calla, Florida.
Speaker 15 (13:21):
And I think that her bills.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Is his bill, and his bills is her bills. If
y'all together, y'all won, and y'all better figure it out.
So yeah, and no, but mostly yeah, because my man
paid my bills.
Speaker 14 (13:36):
Were going this tied from Upper Marlborough and if you together,
those are y'all bill. Not it was not just her bills,
Those are y'all bills. So I think that y'all both
should be paying your bills together, because if one persons
in the dark, both y'all will be in the dark.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
All right, I got something to say, I got something.
I'm gonna put this thing I'm gonna bring that baby
is just for me from a man's perspective, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Say all of that. Oh it's conning. Oh Garrett, don't
look at me like that. It's conning.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it, but I
ain't gonna see it right now. I'm gonna say it
right up there.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We want to know.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
My whole argument is my whole David, you might not
have us in Q. My whole art argument is.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Take care of your woman.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You know.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
He said on Shannon's Shop that women should stay single,
that men should stay single unless they're ready to give
that women at least five thousand dollars a month, you
know what I'm saying, and pay all their bills.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He is ain't necessarily five thousand months.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Like you may add up, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like you're getting to check for five thousand dollars. But
my thing is, like, you know, just is she making.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Sure you good? Make sure she good? If she's peaceful.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It ain't messy, it ain't causing no problems in the house,
and she's bringing coming with solutions, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Or whatever you do, she's helpful to you help each other.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I would do anything exactly somebody that's that's helpful
and thoughtful and to make your life easy and saying, hey,
I know you don't like to be bothered. Sign and
talk to the person down at the theater. It's the
side that we're gonna go and watch a movie. I
got a little spot we could go to and have
a nice little dinner. Or ain't nobody sitting there with their
phone recording us? You know what I'm saying, Like little
(15:20):
stuff like hey, I'm gonna help you unpack or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know what I'm saying. Because you're going on the
road making the money, you can't.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Be with nobody that disturbed you while you make help
her that part.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
But when did this thing come? We split?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I ain't never splitting, and I was married for twelve years.
My wife never paid a bill ever, and I wasn't
even on comic view.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Then what about for regular dudes that work, like you know,
at an auto park store, he made him to thirteen
dollars an hour, him too to take everything.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Okay, but if he ain't making but four hundred dollars
a week, it's different levels to it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
They got no bible or what if they got good
binding chemistry and they love each other and she a judged.
She might be making one thing, he might be making
fifty or sixty.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
Well, that's up to him because usually the man always
get intimidated when the woman makes more money.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
As long as she ain't coming home treating him like
he in court.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And that's you know, the roles that we play when
we get in the house and get together and she
still love on him and treat them like a king
because he's.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Busting his am because she's not emasculating them.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Right that part, thank you.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
But he got to know that it's going to become
something bigger. It can't just be everybody you date, you
pay all their bills. You don't have number two months. Okay,
but what if you really like her is what we're saying.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But does she really like you?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Is she really investing in becoming a real party.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
A good judge have And you've made a lot of
bad decisions. Women intuition, and some guys have great intuitions
and they know when they feel like it's their person
and automatically in the beginning of relationship, you want you
want to impress them, you want to spoil them, you
want to show them what you could do, but you
also have to show them love and all of your
other sides.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Like that's what courting and dating is about.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I think some women out there use guys knowing that
they knowing that they don't really like them, but they.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Got it, Like we got a gate all you need
a radar?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, but boy, is she? Is she beautiful? Peaceful? And
let me say peaceful again? Peaceful?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Beautiful, peaceful offers solutions to little things or whatever, because
when you're an executive, you make an executive decisions and
on the job you don't need nobody bothering you about
the little small stuff or whatever. What happened and the
carpet in the corner and came a looser argumentative and
sending you crazy ugly women don't deserve to be spoiled.
(17:50):
You said, is she beautiful? What is she beautiful? On
the you know, on the inside and outside.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
A beautiful person that attractive, don't they just to get
the bi.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Not the most attracted, to be the nicest names dated,
and women that wasn't the most attracted, that was very
without most respects.
Speaker 14 (18:09):
And to.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Think of some meshed potatoes.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
That even my reason to espress her to the tre
she ain't sitting up and I hadn't feel like easter
basket grass.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Let's go to the phone, yester morning.
Speaker 16 (18:33):
I know it depends on if the man is your husband,
but it is just your man man, y'all. They No,
he shouldn't be responsible for your bills, should give you,
maybe give you something every now and then just to
treat you, but be responsible for your bills. No, he
ain't living with you, he gets your man. No, he
shouldn't be paying your bill.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I do not agree.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I think they's unreleasing. They spake someone to just carry
the load. Now, if you meet a man and he's
just a provider and he can do those things, that's great.
But until expect the man to pay everything all by
himself just because he's your man, or he has to
say stay single. That's insane to me.
Speaker 13 (19:18):
This is Bishop coming calling from out of Saint Petersburg,
representing New Jersey to the bullets though, And I think
that the game. It's very easy for somebody who's a
multi millionaire to say that's going to pay somebody's bills.
But for the manager at Walmart who's dating the na,
how is he going to pay his bill and her bill?
(19:40):
And they don't have enough money to do that. They
only have enough money to pay their own bill.
Speaker 15 (19:45):
Dmi Trice Whitby from Making Georgia. I don't understand where
did men tis to pay for women's bills? What happened
to have and hanced you pay yours? He played years.
That's just how I feel.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I'm I'm so sitting on this town things. I'm just
so sorry, honey. He should pay everything. If he want
to pay everything, let him pay everything.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
What happened in the day with Miss Maimie and mister
Jeff had twenty damn children, and mister Jeff paid everything
working in the field, and he took cat many had
that fire, had that fire.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
She wore slippings, black stockings and white shoes and kidding
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.