December 25, 2024 • 22 mins
Ricky Hollywood sits down with Los Angeles Rams defensive end Kobie Turner to talk about his experience on the Masked Singer, his experience going to school for music therapy, and how the defense is preparing for two epic home games against division opponents to close out the season.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up, Jamie's Welcome back to another episode of Ricky's Ramjam,
presented by Barefoot Wine. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all.
We're in the studio today, which means someone special is
coming up, and that is Kobe Turner. But before that,
there's some things and pressing matters that we need to
get to. We have two home divisional games coming up. Okay,
(00:25):
the final two push to wrap the twenty four season.
We need your booties in those seats. It's gonna be
so so exciting. Now before Kobe joins me, you know
what we have to do. The coin toss? All right?
The coin toss this week? First option Option one in
honor of Kobe Kyler Murray gets sacked two or more times.
He's a scrambler, but the d line is in for
(00:46):
some redemption from week two and option two this week
is someone that's not Matthew Stafford throws a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hmm, what's it gonna be?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Option one or option two? Let me know below joining me. Now,
we've got Kobe Turner straight off the practice field. How's
a feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
How are you doing really well? Doing really well? So
you were on the masked singer. So I thought for
this episode we could do like the masked interview. So
I'm just going to give you rampages head and you'll
wear it the whole.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Time while we do that. I love that, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Can you imagine. I mean, the kids at home, they
would love that and it would be crazy. But like,
talk to me about that experience. I know you've been
you've been doing a lot of press about it and everything,
but it was just so cool.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, So it was insane, you know. I got the
call that I'd be able to do that. My market
and agent, Clint He hooked us up. And so from
the second that we heard that, we were super excited.
Me and my fiance were on the college just like
screaming to each other, like no way. So then after
that they pitched me my character and I was going
to be this big oozing slime ball named Goo and
(01:53):
he was going to be kind of grossed and discussing,
but also kind of cute with the little bow tie.
And so I instantly, you know, kind of loved the
costume and the character that I was able to become.
And then go in you try it all on. They
don't have everything completely set up, but they have kind
of the makings of it, and I was just like,
this is going to be a fun a fun time.
So it was really really heavy, probably about thirty pounds movie. Yeah,
(02:17):
it was just like disperse all over the place. Of
the feet had a little bit of extra you know,
like I had my shoes in them. They were like
vans inside of them, and then it's inside of a
larger boot and they waited a little bit and you
cann't walk the same because your foot's a little bit longer,
and so it took some getting used to you. But
first day was first day recording was the day OTAs ended.
(02:38):
So finished up OTA's practice, went home, picked up my
fiance and then went straight to the studio and did
lose control on night one and so that was a wild.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Woild is hard to sing in there, like were you
just like thinking about your arms and legs and it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And so it's also too they tell you that you
kind of stay on by the way that you sing,
but also the performance that you give, and so they're like,
you got to try to move the costume a little bit.
It's gonna look good for TV, and it's gonna look good,
you know, for the for the crowd that was there
as well, Right, So trying to move in that thing,
like every step I took to double the HP, double
the stamina, So I'm trying to like control my breath.
(03:17):
Some of the songs where I moved a little bit
more on I definitely was a little bit breathier, But
I kind of grew with the costume as each night
kind of went on the first night, I was more
stiff and more trying to deliver a vocal and I
didn't want to like rip the costume or break it.
I remember. Actually it didn't get shown too much on
the actual TV, but when I got out there, I
(03:39):
was dancing around and the head started to pop off,
and so I was like, I gotta chill out. I'm
not gonna get on masks one day one on accident,
Like this is not happening. So but yeah, it was
an awesome experience to be able to compete with some
of the people that I was competing up against as well,
and to go toe to toe and to share the
stage with I know, the finale ist night, Yeah, there's
(04:01):
some crazy people who are about to get a mask tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that's that's wild. I mean, you couldn't do your
conductor with the arms right at all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The only movement I could really do with the arms,
like I could go kind of like that, or I
could like go like this, or but my main movement
was like like a heart tap or something like that,
or like I drop and I just like kind of
like get like emotional intense stuff and then like release
and stuff like that. But most of the movement kind
(04:30):
of came in the knees and feet. I was dancing
a good a good bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
How important do you think it is to be able
to show like these different sides of yourself?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I think it's extremely important. That's one of the
biggest blessings that I have with being with this organization,
alongside just how great football wise they have been and
how much I've learned in that sense, But to be
able to be yourself completely is super empowering and there's
something to it too. When you have to hide yourself
you don't excuse me, you don't and as much power
(05:00):
as well. So I feel like even on the football field,
when I'm hiding sides of myself, that that kind of
goes into every side of your life. But when you're
just able to stand authentically in who you are, that
is empowering and it strengthens you. And so I feel
like for me, I've had this big boost since it's
all come out because part of myself is like part
(05:23):
of it is nerves and being like, you know, are
people going to accept this side of me as everybody
else has? Kind of right? Literally? And then you know,
I am really talented in that area, and I've worked
really hard to be able to get to the level
in music that I am at and there's still so
much for me to explore, so much left for me
(05:44):
to do. But it's not just this wacky off the field,
you know, random thing like it's something that I'm actually
good at. But yeah, it's been empowering, and it's also
been a challenge because for me, I'm not going to
be mediocre in anything, right, And so it's like, Okay,
the music side is out now, or like I'm gonna
I'm dropping some I'm dropping a cover that I did
on the show this Friday, and so it's like the
(06:07):
music side is starting to come out, and I'm pushing
all this stuff music, so I have to back it
up and even more so on the field, Like I
can't go out and slack because I don't want anybody
else to think that I'm, you know, doing one thing
mediocre and when I know I'm not. And so it's
it's a good little challenge. It's like how far am
I willing to take it? Am I gonna live authentically
as myself? And then when I do put out the
other side of myself with the music, then it's like, okay,
(06:30):
now you got to back it up the show, Like okay,
you're you're a music guy, but you're a guy on
the field, Like that's what I'm here for and that's
what I do, like I play ball, And so it's
it's an exciting challenge to get to back that up
every Sunday too.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's so cool. Where when did you realize you could sing?
Like I sing in the shower? But I know that
it's not going to go further than that, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, so I've been seeing my whole well I haven't.
I haven't heard you know. I don't think you were
singing at the campfire this summer. If you would have
sang then then maybe I wouldn't been able to tell
you but I think I started singing when I was
a kid, and I never really wanted to do even now,
I don't. I never really had this inspiration or this
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dream or passion to be like I'm going to go
and be a singer, or like I'm going to go
and try to like go on tours and stuff. It
was always just about sharing the gift. But I think
growing up my whole life, people have always told me
that I can sing. And then when I used to
lead the church choir at times, or a cappella groups
and all of those different things that I used to
do like high school, all throughout there, it was like
(07:37):
your voice. People would come up to me and tell me,
like your voice really impacted me, like the way that
you sang that song or what you did with this
like it it made me feel something, and so I
thought that that was something that was really really powerful.
I also had a friend too who was going through
some hard things during high school, and sometimes you'd just
be like yo, like can you just come over and
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sing a couple songs? And that would like encourage. So
that was actually one of my one of my big
passions because that was happening throughout high school and so
I was thinking about going to college for music therapy
for a little while. Wow. Yeah, so it all kind
of blossomed up out of that. But yeah, there's just
so much power within music to be able to change
people's lives or to be able to create an experience
(08:20):
that touches somebody in the right way and that can
really impact somebody. And so that's the line that I
like to stay in, is you know, singing about something impactful,
not just singing just to sing, which there is power
on that too. Write whether it be singing for expression,
but to I sing because I feel like there's something
to share, whether it be my own story and my
(08:41):
own journey with football and music, or my own journey
with how music has saved me and pulled me out
of hard times in my life, whether it be high school, college,
when I was a kid, all of those things. But
to also be able to empower other people.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, it's so cool getting to sit here with you
and also like kind of take take a look at this,
you know, masculinity here where you are a badass tackle
on the field and hyper masculine, not that singing isn't,
but then also to be able to share, like thank
you for sharing, like going over to a guy friend's
house that's having a hard time and singing to him
(09:15):
for therapy, Like it is such a beautiful and amazing
thing to hear it is.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And it's so interesting too, how there are some people
in this world that just wants you to be one thing,
that are just like you play football. Shut up and
play football, or you can't have these feelings off the field,
whether it be social issues, whether it be just real
life things that you go through, you can't feel any
of that. You're here for our entertainment and that's it.
(09:42):
And I think that this is such an awesome lane
to be able to be in, to be able to
show like we are. And I say this all the time,
but it's so true. Where more than just athletes, and
I think every individual is more than what they do
for a living, and they're even more than the things
that they dream of, right Like I've dreamed of being
an NFL player since I was in what the first grade,
since I was a kid, And I'm more than just
(10:04):
what I dream of, you know. And so to be
able to show that and to be able to fight
those things and to be able to express yourself I
feel like that's such a big thing in today's world,
and I feel like in man culture as well, where
you feel like you can't express things. And I think
it's one thing to, you know, express yourself and then
(10:26):
just expect everything else is just going to resolve itself,
or you'll get handouts or everything will kind of work
itself out. But it's another thing to be like, hey,
this is where i'm at. I'm going to put this
out there, I'm going to express it, and then I'm
going to go and do something about it, you know.
So I think there's a lot of power in being
able to say this is where I'm hurting, or to
be able to have songs that are able to portray
the emotions that you're feeling, whether it be happy, sad,
(10:48):
you know, good, bad, whatever it is. But to just
be able to be real with where you're at.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, and that helps you on the field because then
you can and you're not like one track, You're like,
this is where I'm at today, this is how I'm
feeling today, this is where I'm going forward with that. So,
I mean the video that you posted on TikTok, the
wicked choreography right in the Team Hotel the night before
a defensive showing for the win. Did you expect to
(11:15):
see that on Good Morning America? Like, did you expect
it to take off? Like?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It did not at all? Okay, so I'll have to
give you the backstory for this. So boom, me and
my fiance watched Wicked. So we watched Wicked on Broadway
earlier this year. Okay, awesome show. And then we also
watch Haiti soundwhich is my favorite Broadway show out there
right now. Anyways, so then we go and watch the
movie and there's something about the musical line and and
(11:43):
what is this feeling where all of the dancing was
kind of taking off? And so that music line kind
of spoke to me in the way that who is
it Stephen Schwartz? Yes, yeah, the way that he arranged
that and composed that, it spoke to me musically. So
I was like, wow, this is really cool, Like I
just want to keep listening to this part. And then
so we're driving on the bus to the to the
(12:07):
plane and I'm scrolling through TikTok and I see the
dance guy. Oh, my choreographer, choreographer. I think it's Chris.
Is it Chris gott That sounds familiar.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I know he has like even posted you on his
Instagram too, which is so crazy, which means Ariana Grande
and Cynthia Arriva like saw that video you have you
thought about that?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Crazy? It's insane? Do you understand that? Like literally, as
this is happening with my fiance is like, oh my gosh,
look at who just posted you. Oh my gosh, look
at where you're at it. So so I get and
I'm listening to it. And so we're on the plane
and I can't really watch any other videos because airplane mode.
But I'm sitting there like doing the little steps in
my seat and whatnot, and I'm just like, this is fun.
So get to the hotel room and it's it's just
(12:52):
stuck in my head. So I'm like, I'm just gonna
learn it. I have nothing better to do. I'm normally
just scrolling on TikTok, So let's learn this dance. And
I send it to my fiance. She's at Disneyland and
she's like, post this right now, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
First throughout this whole time. She sounds like such a
supportive person in your life, and like the way you
talk about her like this whole episode, like I'm just
like my heart, like.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah no, I literally could not do any of these
things without her and her support, and like she is
my rock. So I love her so much. Shout out
to Lisa. But yeah, so she was like posting. I
was like, no, like it's not perfect, and it's a
day before a game and like all of these thoughts
that you have where it's like people expect you to
be this or to be that, and everybody's doing their
(13:33):
own thing. People are walking around the day before the game.
People are scrolling on like what's doing a dance in
a locker room? So or not in the locker room
in your hotel room. So I was like, I'm gonna
just post it and then boom it blew all.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah that was crazy. That was That was so so cool,
such a cool moment, Like what a crazy few weeks
it's been for you. Yeah, I mean so so excite, exciting.
So your top artist Spotify wrapped z mccallfine, Yeah, I
mean ceilings is oh my god, I've cried to that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah. No, I'm like, as Lizzie, I'm so much of
a Lizzie stand Like if that is a thing like
I listen to Lizzie all the time to go to sleep.
When I'm stretching, I just want to.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Be said, Yeah, sometimes you just need to like be
in your fields. No literally, you know what I mean,
Like you just have to do that. Let's talk a
little football for a second. So two divisional opponents coming
up two games back to back at home? Is it
any different preparing for a divisional opponent than others?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Kind of? So when it comes on to the Cardinals
and when it comes on to the Seahawks, I've already
played them three times in my career in only two years,
and I already played them once this year, so I
kind of know their personnel a little bit more. I
know their scheme and the ways that they tried to
attack us, and certainly they come up with some different things,
but you know the type of offense that they are,
and you already have keys. Like if I'm thinking through
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what the Cardinals do, like I can tell you a
couple of things off of what they do and what
bit us last summer, I can tell you what the
Seahawks doing what they did last summer. As when you're
approaching these teams that you're playing for the first time.
You really have to sit down and break it down
and get to know the team so that you can
go out and execute.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
How fun is it? Okay, we had your rookie season,
your next to Aaron Donald, like the goat himself. You
guys went through that final push, made playoffs, and then
this year starting off one and four. Yeah, to where
you are now? How fun is it to be playing
meaningful football in December and January?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's awesome. You know in college, I didn't for my
first five years, we didn't make the playoffs at Richmond,
So it was just kind of as you get towards
the end of the season, it's like, Okay, here's the
last game. And I never want to feel that way.
I never want to have a practice where it's like, boom,
this is the last one, unless you know, this is
the last one right before the super Bowl. And so
to be able to be in the position to now
(15:54):
we control our own destiny and it comes back to
us and how we approach things something that you can
take a lot of power in. And it's also a
big challenge. Right you can listen to what everybody outside
is saying, and you know you have this percentage to
make the playoffs, or you know, we need this team
to win and this team to lose and all of
these other things. But at the end of the day,
it comes down to what we do, and we went
(16:15):
out and we're in. So it's really cool to be
playing games that actually mean something in the month of
December and early January, and these games are going to
be able to put us in position, you know, to
make a good playoff run. So it starts with taking
a week to week approach and yeah, you know, our
playoffs really started a long time ago for us, but
(16:38):
they they're definitely on now.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I mean, the defense has been bawling out this I mean,
it's so much fun to watch. You guys. What about
this team and this young defense makes you feel hopeful
for the future of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing is all of the
points that we've given up, all of the big, big
yardage games. They all come back to things that we've
done wrong, and we've been able to put on tape
right in a game like last game. When we do
things the right way, how that shows up and the
impact that we can have on a game or whether
it be some of the games early on, Like I
(17:15):
think of the Raiders game coming to mind right away
and what it looks like when we do things the
right way. And so I think we are battle tested
and we're guy a group of guys that is going
to always have the energy and always have the effort.
Right when you're a young group and you know you
have a bunch of guys who are probably counted out.
Right when you really think of it, nobody was really
(17:35):
looking at our defense to do anything. And so when
you think about that, we have a ton of guys
who are fighting for something or fighting for the name
on the front of our jerseys, for the name on
the back of our jerseys, and we're a group that
just flies around. And so I think that's something to
be excited for as we continue to you know, proceed
through the rest of this year and into the future.
(17:57):
Is that we're a young group of guys who are
really really hungry. Everybody counts us out, and it's it's
so wild every time we get counted out, and every
time it's like here, like let's presh to you who
we are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Okay, now it's time for the ram jam, which I
ask my guests the same three questions every single week.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh, I should have studied.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's okay, just describe your perfect day, like what is
a perfect Kobe day?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, my perfect day probably starts.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
With like, are you a sleep in guy? Because you
can't normally or so it's.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Kind of a mix, right, I don't. I kind of
want to sleep in, but at the same time, I
want to wake up because I have a purpose to
the day, you know, Like I don't like to just
sleep in and just relax too much, So I.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Wake up like rethinking my entire life.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I wake up boom, breakfast is being cooked in the kitchen,
and and somebody's on like the piano, and somebody's playing piano,
and you just wake up to music and breakfast and
food and you're with the family and chilling, kicking it
and then boom. I don't know, like I would like
to include football somewhere in there, but I feel like
(19:09):
football just everything kind of is surrounding football. So maybe
we'll take football out of it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Maybe I can just watch for Yeah, maybe there's like
a TNF game that night that you're not playing it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, maybe we watch football Boom Later there's like you
have a little gather. Well, no, then you have lunch
and we turn on like a movie or like a series,
and everybody just chilling on the couch, but like a
couch that has enough space for you.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I love a big couch. Yeah, not where you're feeling
uncomfortable and you're with friends that you can actually lay out.
You're not like being dainty.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And everybody takes like a nap naturally at the same time.
And then we wake up, and then we go back
to more food, and then we're chilling playing video games,
maybe a little Tetris. I've gotten a couple people, me
and who could play Tetris. Okay, so Tetris and then
we have a little jam session and then boom, we
just go kick it out in the backyard. And maybe
the evening looking really nice and you see a little sunset,
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or maybe you drive down the Maliboo and look at
the beach for a little bit. But I hate sandy toe,
So like you go to the beach and you walk around,
but your toes aren't sandy because it's my perfect day, right,
I own it. So you can walk around and your
toes don't get sandy at all. Boom, hop back in
the car, no saying, gets back in the car, nothing, nothing,
and then you go and you eat a nice meal
(20:22):
and then and then you probably play some more games
or something. I don't know. I'm a bit of a gamer.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That's great. Own on your truth, yeah right, own your truth,
no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then and then yeah, maybe another movie. I don't know.
I just explained to sitting in day with friends.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That sounds amazing. That's that does sound like a perfect day.
If you could switch lives with one celebrity, who would
it be for one day?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Only one day?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Not forever.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
With one celebrity. I'm not gonna lie. I don't really
know a lot of celebrities. I don't really pay attention
to their lives.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I mean a musician could out, like I think, would
you want to be Coach McVeigh.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
For a day? That would be pretty fun?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That just to like screw around with everyone.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Right, If you could just have one day and like
you can kind of screw everything up and just say
what you want and then I'll have to come back
and fix it the next day. So maybe that'll be
Maybe that.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Would be really fun. That would be really fun. I
love that Okay, ice coffee on a snowy day or
a hot coffee in a heat wave.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh, ice coffee on a snowy day, Yeah for sure. Yeah,
but it has to be like sweet, like yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Need like an ice latte like he la la land
Clutch clutch, clutch, love it, love it. Kobe, Thank you
so much for your time today. Before we end, you know,
my show is Ricky's Ram Jam. But I don't even
know if we have a jam, Like do you want
to pitch off the top of your head like a jingle?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I have nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That's how them the show is going to start. It's
just going to be your voice.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I have nothing. I have nothing. I have nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I have nothing Ricky's frame Ja I have nothing, I
have nothing. I have nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I have nothing. I have nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I have nothing. Kobe, thanks so much for hanging out
and congrats to all of your successes this season. There
he goes. Thanks so much Kobe for hanging out today.
That was so much fun. Okay, final push. Two more
big home games at Sofi Stadium and we all need
to be there and let's watch the Rams try to
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clinch this NFC West. Exciting, exciting times. Happy holidays, jammies.
Thanks so much for all your love and support and
I hope you have a fantastic week and until then,
let's ram it
What's up, Jamie's Welcome back to another episode of Ricky's Ramjam,
presented by Barefoot Wine. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all.
We're in the studio today, which means someone special is
coming up, and that is Kobe Turner. But before that,
there's some things and pressing matters that we need to
get to. We have two home divisional games coming up. Okay,
(00:25):
the final two push to wrap the twenty four season.
We need your booties in those seats. It's gonna be
so so exciting. Now before Kobe joins me, you know
what we have to do. The coin toss? All right?
The coin toss this week? First option Option one in
honor of Kobe Kyler Murray gets sacked two or more times.
He's a scrambler, but the d line is in for
(00:46):
some redemption from week two and option two this week
is someone that's not Matthew Stafford throws a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hmm, what's it gonna be?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Option one or option two? Let me know below joining me. Now,
we've got Kobe Turner straight off the practice field. How's
a feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
How are you doing really well? Doing really well? So
you were on the masked singer. So I thought for
this episode we could do like the masked interview. So
I'm just going to give you rampages head and you'll
wear it the whole.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Time while we do that. I love that, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Can you imagine. I mean, the kids at home, they
would love that and it would be crazy. But like,
talk to me about that experience. I know you've been
you've been doing a lot of press about it and everything,
but it was just so cool.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, So it was insane, you know. I got the
call that I'd be able to do that. My market
and agent, Clint He hooked us up. And so from
the second that we heard that, we were super excited.
Me and my fiance were on the college just like
screaming to each other, like no way. So then after
that they pitched me my character and I was going
to be this big oozing slime ball named Goo and
(01:53):
he was going to be kind of grossed and discussing,
but also kind of cute with the little bow tie.
And so I instantly, you know, kind of loved the
costume and the character that I was able to become.
And then go in you try it all on. They
don't have everything completely set up, but they have kind
of the makings of it, and I was just like,
this is going to be a fun a fun time.
So it was really really heavy, probably about thirty pounds movie. Yeah,
(02:17):
it was just like disperse all over the place. Of
the feet had a little bit of extra you know,
like I had my shoes in them. They were like
vans inside of them, and then it's inside of a
larger boot and they waited a little bit and you
cann't walk the same because your foot's a little bit longer,
and so it took some getting used to you. But
first day was first day recording was the day OTAs ended.
(02:38):
So finished up OTA's practice, went home, picked up my
fiance and then went straight to the studio and did
lose control on night one and so that was a wild.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Woild is hard to sing in there, like were you
just like thinking about your arms and legs and it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And so it's also too they tell you that you
kind of stay on by the way that you sing,
but also the performance that you give, and so they're like,
you got to try to move the costume a little bit.
It's gonna look good for TV, and it's gonna look good,
you know, for the for the crowd that was there
as well, Right, So trying to move in that thing,
like every step I took to double the HP, double
the stamina, So I'm trying to like control my breath.
(03:17):
Some of the songs where I moved a little bit
more on I definitely was a little bit breathier, But
I kind of grew with the costume as each night
kind of went on the first night, I was more
stiff and more trying to deliver a vocal and I
didn't want to like rip the costume or break it.
I remember. Actually it didn't get shown too much on
the actual TV, but when I got out there, I
(03:39):
was dancing around and the head started to pop off,
and so I was like, I gotta chill out. I'm
not gonna get on masks one day one on accident,
Like this is not happening. So but yeah, it was
an awesome experience to be able to compete with some
of the people that I was competing up against as well,
and to go toe to toe and to share the
stage with I know, the finale ist night, Yeah, there's
(04:01):
some crazy people who are about to get a mask tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that's that's wild. I mean, you couldn't do your
conductor with the arms right at all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The only movement I could really do with the arms,
like I could go kind of like that, or I
could like go like this, or but my main movement
was like like a heart tap or something like that,
or like I drop and I just like kind of
like get like emotional intense stuff and then like release
and stuff like that. But most of the movement kind
(04:30):
of came in the knees and feet. I was dancing
a good a good bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
How important do you think it is to be able
to show like these different sides of yourself?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I think it's extremely important. That's one of the
biggest blessings that I have with being with this organization,
alongside just how great football wise they have been and
how much I've learned in that sense, But to be
able to be yourself completely is super empowering and there's
something to it too. When you have to hide yourself
you don't excuse me, you don't and as much power
(05:00):
as well. So I feel like even on the football field,
when I'm hiding sides of myself, that that kind of
goes into every side of your life. But when you're
just able to stand authentically in who you are, that
is empowering and it strengthens you. And so I feel
like for me, I've had this big boost since it's
all come out because part of myself is like part
(05:23):
of it is nerves and being like, you know, are
people going to accept this side of me as everybody
else has? Kind of right? Literally? And then you know,
I am really talented in that area, and I've worked
really hard to be able to get to the level
in music that I am at and there's still so
much for me to explore, so much left for me
(05:44):
to do. But it's not just this wacky off the field,
you know, random thing like it's something that I'm actually
good at. But yeah, it's been empowering, and it's also
been a challenge because for me, I'm not going to
be mediocre in anything, right, And so it's like, Okay,
the music side is out now, or like I'm gonna
I'm dropping some I'm dropping a cover that I did
on the show this Friday, and so it's like the
(06:07):
music side is starting to come out, and I'm pushing
all this stuff music, so I have to back it
up and even more so on the field, Like I
can't go out and slack because I don't want anybody
else to think that I'm, you know, doing one thing
mediocre and when I know I'm not. And so it's
it's a good little challenge. It's like how far am
I willing to take it? Am I gonna live authentically
as myself? And then when I do put out the
other side of myself with the music, then it's like, okay,
(06:30):
now you got to back it up the show, Like okay,
you're you're a music guy, but you're a guy on
the field, Like that's what I'm here for and that's
what I do, like I play ball, And so it's
it's an exciting challenge to get to back that up
every Sunday too.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's so cool. Where when did you realize you could sing?
Like I sing in the shower? But I know that
it's not going to go further than that, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, so I've been seeing my whole well I haven't.
I haven't heard you know. I don't think you were
singing at the campfire this summer. If you would have
sang then then maybe I wouldn't been able to tell
you but I think I started singing when I was
a kid, and I never really wanted to do even now,
I don't. I never really had this inspiration or this
(07:14):
dream or passion to be like I'm going to go
and be a singer, or like I'm going to go
and try to like go on tours and stuff. It
was always just about sharing the gift. But I think
growing up my whole life, people have always told me
that I can sing. And then when I used to
lead the church choir at times, or a cappella groups
and all of those different things that I used to
do like high school, all throughout there, it was like
(07:37):
your voice. People would come up to me and tell me,
like your voice really impacted me, like the way that
you sang that song or what you did with this
like it it made me feel something, and so I
thought that that was something that was really really powerful.
I also had a friend too who was going through
some hard things during high school, and sometimes you'd just
be like yo, like can you just come over and
(07:58):
sing a couple songs? And that would like encourage. So
that was actually one of my one of my big
passions because that was happening throughout high school and so
I was thinking about going to college for music therapy
for a little while. Wow. Yeah, so it all kind
of blossomed up out of that. But yeah, there's just
so much power within music to be able to change
people's lives or to be able to create an experience
(08:20):
that touches somebody in the right way and that can
really impact somebody. And so that's the line that I
like to stay in, is you know, singing about something impactful,
not just singing just to sing, which there is power
on that too. Write whether it be singing for expression,
but to I sing because I feel like there's something
to share, whether it be my own story and my
(08:41):
own journey with football and music, or my own journey
with how music has saved me and pulled me out
of hard times in my life, whether it be high school, college,
when I was a kid, all of those things. But
to also be able to empower other people.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, it's so cool getting to sit here with you
and also like kind of take take a look at this,
you know, masculinity here where you are a badass tackle
on the field and hyper masculine, not that singing isn't,
but then also to be able to share, like thank
you for sharing, like going over to a guy friend's
house that's having a hard time and singing to him
(09:15):
for therapy, Like it is such a beautiful and amazing
thing to hear it is.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And it's so interesting too, how there are some people
in this world that just wants you to be one thing,
that are just like you play football. Shut up and
play football, or you can't have these feelings off the field,
whether it be social issues, whether it be just real
life things that you go through, you can't feel any
of that. You're here for our entertainment and that's it.
(09:42):
And I think that this is such an awesome lane
to be able to be in, to be able to
show like we are. And I say this all the time,
but it's so true. Where more than just athletes, and
I think every individual is more than what they do
for a living, and they're even more than the things
that they dream of, right Like I've dreamed of being
an NFL player since I was in what the first grade,
since I was a kid, And I'm more than just
(10:04):
what I dream of, you know. And so to be
able to show that and to be able to fight
those things and to be able to express yourself I
feel like that's such a big thing in today's world,
and I feel like in man culture as well, where
you feel like you can't express things. And I think
it's one thing to, you know, express yourself and then
(10:26):
just expect everything else is just going to resolve itself,
or you'll get handouts or everything will kind of work
itself out. But it's another thing to be like, hey,
this is where i'm at. I'm going to put this
out there, I'm going to express it, and then I'm
going to go and do something about it, you know.
So I think there's a lot of power in being
able to say this is where I'm hurting, or to
be able to have songs that are able to portray
the emotions that you're feeling, whether it be happy, sad,
(10:48):
you know, good, bad, whatever it is. But to just
be able to be real with where you're at.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, and that helps you on the field because then
you can and you're not like one track, You're like,
this is where I'm at today, this is how I'm
feeling today, this is where I'm going forward with that. So,
I mean the video that you posted on TikTok, the
wicked choreography right in the Team Hotel the night before
a defensive showing for the win. Did you expect to
(11:15):
see that on Good Morning America? Like, did you expect
it to take off? Like?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It did not at all? Okay, so I'll have to
give you the backstory for this. So boom, me and
my fiance watched Wicked. So we watched Wicked on Broadway
earlier this year. Okay, awesome show. And then we also
watch Haiti soundwhich is my favorite Broadway show out there
right now. Anyways, so then we go and watch the
movie and there's something about the musical line and and
(11:43):
what is this feeling where all of the dancing was
kind of taking off? And so that music line kind
of spoke to me in the way that who is
it Stephen Schwartz? Yes, yeah, the way that he arranged
that and composed that, it spoke to me musically. So
I was like, wow, this is really cool, Like I
just want to keep listening to this part. And then
so we're driving on the bus to the to the
(12:07):
plane and I'm scrolling through TikTok and I see the
dance guy. Oh, my choreographer, choreographer. I think it's Chris.
Is it Chris gott That sounds familiar.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I know he has like even posted you on his
Instagram too, which is so crazy, which means Ariana Grande
and Cynthia Arriva like saw that video you have you
thought about that?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Crazy? It's insane? Do you understand that? Like literally, as
this is happening with my fiance is like, oh my gosh,
look at who just posted you. Oh my gosh, look
at where you're at it. So so I get and
I'm listening to it. And so we're on the plane
and I can't really watch any other videos because airplane mode.
But I'm sitting there like doing the little steps in
my seat and whatnot, and I'm just like, this is fun.
So get to the hotel room and it's it's just
(12:52):
stuck in my head. So I'm like, I'm just gonna
learn it. I have nothing better to do. I'm normally
just scrolling on TikTok, So let's learn this dance. And
I send it to my fiance. She's at Disneyland and
she's like, post this right now, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
First throughout this whole time. She sounds like such a
supportive person in your life, and like the way you
talk about her like this whole episode, like I'm just
like my heart, like.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah no, I literally could not do any of these
things without her and her support, and like she is
my rock. So I love her so much. Shout out
to Lisa. But yeah, so she was like posting. I
was like, no, like it's not perfect, and it's a
day before a game and like all of these thoughts
that you have where it's like people expect you to
be this or to be that, and everybody's doing their
(13:33):
own thing. People are walking around the day before the game.
People are scrolling on like what's doing a dance in
a locker room? So or not in the locker room
in your hotel room. So I was like, I'm gonna
just post it and then boom it blew all.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah that was crazy. That was That was so so cool,
such a cool moment, Like what a crazy few weeks
it's been for you. Yeah, I mean so so excite, exciting.
So your top artist Spotify wrapped z mccallfine, Yeah, I
mean ceilings is oh my god, I've cried to that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah. No, I'm like, as Lizzie, I'm so much of
a Lizzie stand Like if that is a thing like
I listen to Lizzie all the time to go to sleep.
When I'm stretching, I just want to.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Be said, Yeah, sometimes you just need to like be
in your fields. No literally, you know what I mean,
Like you just have to do that. Let's talk a
little football for a second. So two divisional opponents coming
up two games back to back at home? Is it
any different preparing for a divisional opponent than others?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Kind of? So when it comes on to the Cardinals
and when it comes on to the Seahawks, I've already
played them three times in my career in only two years,
and I already played them once this year, so I
kind of know their personnel a little bit more. I
know their scheme and the ways that they tried to
attack us, and certainly they come up with some different things,
but you know the type of offense that they are,
and you already have keys. Like if I'm thinking through
(14:57):
what the Cardinals do, like I can tell you a
couple of things off of what they do and what
bit us last summer, I can tell you what the
Seahawks doing what they did last summer. As when you're
approaching these teams that you're playing for the first time.
You really have to sit down and break it down
and get to know the team so that you can
go out and execute.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
How fun is it? Okay, we had your rookie season,
your next to Aaron Donald, like the goat himself. You
guys went through that final push, made playoffs, and then
this year starting off one and four. Yeah, to where
you are now? How fun is it to be playing
meaningful football in December and January?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's awesome. You know in college, I didn't for my
first five years, we didn't make the playoffs at Richmond,
So it was just kind of as you get towards
the end of the season, it's like, Okay, here's the
last game. And I never want to feel that way.
I never want to have a practice where it's like, boom,
this is the last one, unless you know, this is
the last one right before the super Bowl. And so
to be able to be in the position to now
(15:54):
we control our own destiny and it comes back to
us and how we approach things something that you can
take a lot of power in. And it's also a
big challenge. Right you can listen to what everybody outside
is saying, and you know you have this percentage to
make the playoffs, or you know, we need this team
to win and this team to lose and all of
these other things. But at the end of the day,
it comes down to what we do, and we went
(16:15):
out and we're in. So it's really cool to be
playing games that actually mean something in the month of
December and early January, and these games are going to
be able to put us in position, you know, to
make a good playoff run. So it starts with taking
a week to week approach and yeah, you know, our
playoffs really started a long time ago for us, but
(16:38):
they they're definitely on now.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I mean, the defense has been bawling out this I mean,
it's so much fun to watch. You guys. What about
this team and this young defense makes you feel hopeful
for the future of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing is all of the
points that we've given up, all of the big, big
yardage games. They all come back to things that we've
done wrong, and we've been able to put on tape
right in a game like last game. When we do
things the right way, how that shows up and the
impact that we can have on a game or whether
it be some of the games early on, Like I
(17:15):
think of the Raiders game coming to mind right away
and what it looks like when we do things the
right way. And so I think we are battle tested
and we're guy a group of guys that is going
to always have the energy and always have the effort.
Right when you're a young group and you know you
have a bunch of guys who are probably counted out.
Right when you really think of it, nobody was really
(17:35):
looking at our defense to do anything. And so when
you think about that, we have a ton of guys
who are fighting for something or fighting for the name
on the front of our jerseys, for the name on
the back of our jerseys, and we're a group that
just flies around. And so I think that's something to
be excited for as we continue to you know, proceed
through the rest of this year and into the future.
(17:57):
Is that we're a young group of guys who are
really really hungry. Everybody counts us out, and it's it's
so wild every time we get counted out, and every
time it's like here, like let's presh to you who
we are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Okay, now it's time for the ram jam, which I
ask my guests the same three questions every single week.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh, I should have studied.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's okay, just describe your perfect day, like what is
a perfect Kobe day?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, my perfect day probably starts.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
With like, are you a sleep in guy? Because you
can't normally or so it's.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Kind of a mix, right, I don't. I kind of
want to sleep in, but at the same time, I
want to wake up because I have a purpose to
the day, you know, Like I don't like to just
sleep in and just relax too much, So I.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Wake up like rethinking my entire life.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I wake up boom, breakfast is being cooked in the kitchen,
and and somebody's on like the piano, and somebody's playing piano,
and you just wake up to music and breakfast and
food and you're with the family and chilling, kicking it
and then boom. I don't know, like I would like
to include football somewhere in there, but I feel like
(19:09):
football just everything kind of is surrounding football. So maybe
we'll take football out of it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Maybe I can just watch for Yeah, maybe there's like
a TNF game that night that you're not playing it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, maybe we watch football Boom Later there's like you
have a little gather. Well, no, then you have lunch
and we turn on like a movie or like a series,
and everybody just chilling on the couch, but like a
couch that has enough space for you.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I love a big couch. Yeah, not where you're feeling
uncomfortable and you're with friends that you can actually lay out.
You're not like being dainty.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And everybody takes like a nap naturally at the same time.
And then we wake up, and then we go back
to more food, and then we're chilling playing video games,
maybe a little Tetris. I've gotten a couple people, me
and who could play Tetris. Okay, so Tetris and then
we have a little jam session and then boom, we
just go kick it out in the backyard. And maybe
the evening looking really nice and you see a little sunset,
(20:02):
or maybe you drive down the Maliboo and look at
the beach for a little bit. But I hate sandy toe,
So like you go to the beach and you walk around,
but your toes aren't sandy because it's my perfect day, right,
I own it. So you can walk around and your
toes don't get sandy at all. Boom, hop back in
the car, no saying, gets back in the car, nothing, nothing,
and then you go and you eat a nice meal
(20:22):
and then and then you probably play some more games
or something. I don't know. I'm a bit of a gamer.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That's great. Own on your truth, yeah right, own your truth,
no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then and then yeah, maybe another movie. I don't know.
I just explained to sitting in day with friends.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That sounds amazing. That's that does sound like a perfect day.
If you could switch lives with one celebrity, who would
it be for one day?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Only one day?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Not forever.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
With one celebrity. I'm not gonna lie. I don't really
know a lot of celebrities. I don't really pay attention
to their lives.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I mean a musician could out, like I think, would
you want to be Coach McVeigh.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
For a day? That would be pretty fun?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That just to like screw around with everyone.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Right, If you could just have one day and like
you can kind of screw everything up and just say
what you want and then I'll have to come back
and fix it the next day. So maybe that'll be
Maybe that.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Would be really fun. That would be really fun. I
love that Okay, ice coffee on a snowy day or
a hot coffee in a heat wave.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh, ice coffee on a snowy day, Yeah for sure. Yeah,
but it has to be like sweet, like yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Need like an ice latte like he la la land
Clutch clutch, clutch, love it, love it. Kobe, Thank you
so much for your time today. Before we end, you know,
my show is Ricky's Ram Jam. But I don't even
know if we have a jam, Like do you want
to pitch off the top of your head like a jingle?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I have nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That's how them the show is going to start. It's
just going to be your voice.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I have nothing. I have nothing. I have nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I have nothing Ricky's frame Ja I have nothing, I
have nothing. I have nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I have nothing. I have nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I have nothing. Kobe, thanks so much for hanging out
and congrats to all of your successes this season. There
he goes. Thanks so much Kobe for hanging out today.
That was so much fun. Okay, final push. Two more
big home games at Sofi Stadium and we all need
to be there and let's watch the Rams try to
(22:31):
clinch this NFC West. Exciting, exciting times. Happy holidays, jammies.
Thanks so much for all your love and support and
I hope you have a fantastic week and until then,
let's ram it
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