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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The up places forever.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You were listening to Saturday Night on the Circle, A
ninety three wy PC esays.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello everybody, this is Saturday Night on this Circle and
I'm your bespectacled curmudgeon Ethan Hatcher, joined by Producer Jack,
who's pushing those buttons in doing the things to make
the show function. This segment, I wanted to talk about
changes that are sweeping the nature Nation that have drawn
the attention and ire of many. But also stay tuned

(00:41):
for hour two. We got a lot of guests coming up.
Brian Baker returns to the program for the first time
in a while. Of course, we also have our regularly
scheduled Conspiracy Corner segment with Producer Carl and also replaying
the last Antique Show Intel from the first day show
with Terry Stacey last Sunday don't miss All coming up
in hour two. But like I said, I wanted to

(01:02):
begin the show first of all with this new rebranding
of Cracker Barrel. It includes the interiors and the logo.
It has touched a firestone of outrage. Producer Jack, have
you seen the new proposed simplified edition of the famed
Cracker Barrel or logo first time, and I believed more
than forty years I have not. Okay, it looks like

(01:24):
a Denny's. It is. It is now kind of diamond
shaped and plain yellow with a brown text. It's hideous.
It has no character. They took off the cracker and
the barrel from Cracker Barrel, so it lacks the symbolism.
And they're trying to clean up the interior. If you've
ever been to a Cracker barrel, you know that it's

(01:45):
got cluttered walls with antiques. It's got an old fashioned look, brown,
lots of brown colors for you know. They're trying to
imitate a general store. Now it looks like Bob Evans.
Have you looked up the logo. Yeah, it doesn't. It's boring.
I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Boring is the word.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It has no character, no immediate identification. It's a drastic
departure from what was there. And now you got the ceo.
This one Julie Fel's Messino trying to do damage control
on Good Morning America, and she claims that everybody likes it.
What are you talking about? Everybody she's talked to is thrilled. Sure, lady, sure.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Honestly the feedback's been overwhelmingly positive that people like what
we're doing. I'll give you another SoundBite. I actually happened
to be in Orlando last week with all of our managers.
We bring them together and once every other year, and
the number one question that I got asked Michael was
how can I get a remodel? When can I get
a remodel? How do I get on the list. So,
because the feedback and the buzz is so good, not

(02:48):
only from our customers, but from our team members if
they want to work in a wonderful restaurant. So we're
doing everything for our guests and our team members.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm doling Messino. It's wonderful to have you here. Pleasure
to be herek Yeah, answer those questions for all the
cracker Berry fans out there. A lot of great changes.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
All right, thank you, Robin. Can I get in writing
that the PEG game is going to stay?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
HEG game is staying.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
So are the rocking chairs from the birthplace vintage to
cor It's all there, all.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Right, okay, because that would be a deal breaker. It
is crazy. We'll say, to give a woman power is
like to give a.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Gug to a Monkey.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
We have stopped doing that ever since the nineteen ninety
nine Astana Zu Mesica.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
People are so aggressively opposed to these changes Producer Jack.
Since she has taken a charge of Cracker Barrel I
believe it was in twenty twenty three, their stock value
has dropped more than forty percent from where it was.
Just after this announcement made the rounds. They lost two
hundred million dollars of their market cap. She is seriously

(03:53):
trying to compete with Alyssa Heinerschneid of bud Light fame
for most damage committed to a company. And the problem is,
I don't think these people A understand their target demographic
or B have a lick of brand loyalty or experience.
This is something that's mirrored across other elements of the industry,
certainly in Hollywood, where you put people in charge of

(04:16):
a brand or a franchise that's recognized and beloved and
they crash it into the ground. Look what Disney has
done with Star Wars, and that's because none of the
people that they put in charge A know the target
demographic of Star Wars or B have any connection to
that brand. So it goes with what's happening at Cracker Barrel.
This woman started out with a career in Starbucks, where
she spent the majority of her time in the early

(04:38):
two thousands up to I believe twenty fourteen, and then
she's been pingponging around these various corporations ever since, including
I think a position at Mattel, Sprinkles Cupcakes, Taco Bell,
and maybe one or two others. Taco Bell was where
she had spent some time before becoming the CEO of
Cracker Barrel. And the thing is, Producer Jack, don't mess

(04:59):
with a formula that works. Cracker Barrel's popularity and market
cap had exploded in recent years, and now I believe
the CEO is just trying to take make their mark,
just look like they're doing something important and in the
end changing something that never needed to be altered to
begin with. Now Steak and Shake has entered the fray.

(05:20):
They are taking shots across the bow, Producer Jack, somebody's
out for blood. Who's running their social media over handle
over on the Twitter machine? They tweeted out, sometimes people
want to change things just to put their own personality
on it. At Cracker Barrel, their goal is just to
delete the personality altogether. Hence the elimination of the old
timer from their signage. Heritage is what got Cracker Barrel

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this far, and now the CEO wants to scrape it
all away at Steak and Shake. We take pride in
our history, our families, and American values. All are welcome.
We will never market ourselves away from the past in
a cheap effort to gain the approval of trend seekers. Ouch,
but you've better call the hospital and send a Cracker
Barrel down to the burn unit because they just got

(06:05):
slaughtered by Steak and Shake. So yeah, I agree with
most of the aversion to the logo changes. I think
it's part of a larger pattern of the uglification of
our society. So little care and attention is paid to
brand design, logo, design, architecture, and we're surrounded by it.

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We are surrounded by societal decay. And I liken this
to a form of psychological warfare producer Jack, because the
world is so aggressively ugly when you walk outside, and
it's embodied by moronic blue hair CEOs, just like the
Cracker Barrel ceo Julie Fel's messino. So I'm sure we'll
see more blowback from that in the coming days. But

(06:47):
I wanted to share my thought and thoughts and Cracker
Barrel not the only entity that is changing changing with
the times. Also MSNBC, they're a failing network. They were,
well they still are as far as I know, under
control of Comcast, who is now spinning off their unsuccessful
cable networks into a separate package, MSNBC included. And now

(07:10):
since they'll no longer be affiliated with their parent network, NBC, well,
they got a rebrand too. And their name change is
per perhaps even more baffling, but not nearly the level
of outrage, because who gives a damn about MSNBC. But
this was announced by Joe Scarborough on the Morning Joe Show.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
We will become ms NOW, which stands from my source
for news, opinion and the world. And look, Andrew, they
even have a graphic up.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I like there. It is actually logo.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
It looks very sporty.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
You serious.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I suspect it might not happen overnight, but in a year,
two years, maybe even three years, MSNBC or now miss
now ms now is going to be a thing of
the past, because this is a brand change not done
out of desire, but out of necessity. They're being spun
off because they are already an unsuccessful entity. And when

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you make a shift, especially when you untether them from
any level of accountability or oversight, I think that they
potentially may dive even further off the deep end into
liberal insanity. So we could be quickly approaching a day
where MSNBC or their rebranded ms NOW is truly a
thing of the past. But we have Cracker Barrel. We

(08:34):
have MSNBC and also another entity. Many may be surprised
to hear Jehovah's Witnesses. Yes, we've talked about them a
number of times on the program before. They are also
undergoing a very important rebrand, Producer Jack. Because now, after
more than a hundred years of shunning higher education and

(08:55):
barring members under penalty from person ursuing a college college career,
now the governing body has generously decided that it's a
personal matter if you want to decide to pursue higher education. Again,
after one hundred year history of opposition.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
Is it appropriate for Christians to pursue additional education?

Speaker 8 (09:20):
With this update, we'd like.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
To clarify our understanding. Well, there aren't dangers involved in
pursuing certain forms of education. Basically, whether to obtain additional
education or not is a matter for personal decision.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Excuse me, are y'all with's the cult? We're not a cult.

Speaker 9 (09:41):
We're an organization that promotes love.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, this is it now.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I didn't need these old dorks permission to tell me
that I whether I was allowed or not allowed to
go to college because I left their crappy religion and
decided to go anyway. But I do feel sorry for
the ones that remain who have to rely on the
permission and the whim of these cult members who oversee
every element of their life. This will hopefully improve the

(10:08):
lives of those who still remain within the organization, But
my mind is immediately drawn to the dozens of individuals
that I personally know who would have had a bright
and happy future, opportunities handed to them in college because
they were smart. They would have had scholarships, they would
have had grant money to get them through, opportunities that

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they had to pass by because they were told by
this authoritarian cult whether they were allowed to pursue higher education.
So it's very hypocritical and for them to change change
direction now, But yes, they are also in the midst
of a rebrand, just like Cracker Barrel and MS now
lots of changes in the air. This week, producer Jack

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Johvah's witnesses included, thanks for listening to ninety three WIBC.
This is Saturday Night on the Circle coming up next.
Stay tuned because you'll hear councilor Jesse Brown literally eat Crow.
Don't miss it, Fox.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Rocks Rock.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
You were listening to Saturday Night on the Circle on
ninety three w y PC.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle. I'm your
bespectacled Grimadge and Ethan Hattra. That's producer Jack on the
board this segment. I wanted to talk the in about
the Indie Council courting a new data center that could
be going up in Franklin, Indiana, Franklin Township, Indiana. They're
they're getting ready to have in Indianapolis, I should say

(11:53):
they're they're getting ready to have a vote, and currently
the Council Republicans mercifully have indicated that they will be
voting against this monstrosity, something that greatly surprised Socialist City
Council member Jesse Brown, who then took to social media
producer Jack and I got a hand to this guy.
At least he's got a sense of humor. He thought

(12:15):
that the Republicans were going to be voting in the
data center there in Franklin Township for Indianapolis, and they
have signaled their opposition to it, so he decided to
eat crow. And by that I mean literally, this was.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Great, Okay, everybody.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
Last night I posted because I had intel that Republicans
were planning on voting yes to the super unpopular data center.
As it turns out, all the Republicans of initiative statements
saying they're going to support councilor Heart and vote no
against the Google data center at Franklin Township. So I
made a promise hold myself accountable. I thought I would
eat crow if I was wrong about this.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
So I don't know how well you can read this.

Speaker 11 (12:56):
I just drew a little picture of a.

Speaker 10 (12:57):
Crow because I don't have any actual birds on hand,
so Republicans will not now.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Time for me. I was wrong.

Speaker 10 (13:08):
I'm so glad to be wrong. Thank you, Republican Caucus.
Joy soon observation to laughter.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
We are laughing, and since you couldn't see it on
the camera, he was literally, of course, stuffing the paper
into his mouth and chewing it up. So the you know,
this was funny, and I got to hand it to
Counselor Jesse Brown for at least having a sense of humor.
But the Republicans should absolutely oppose this data center's erection
in Indianapolis because it offers nothing to hoosiers. It's not

(13:42):
giving us jobs, Producer Jack. These are just computers, computers,
mind you, that are eating up a significant amount of
power from aes, a significant amount of water to cool
the damn things, and a significant amount of land more
than four hundred acres I believe, just to put the
thing up. So we're not getting any jobs out of it.
It's eaten up our utility rates, it's eaten up a

(14:03):
significant portion of land. And in order to build the thing,
in order to attract Google here in the first place,
they would be giving significant discounts on those utility bills,
so they would be offloading the cost onto us, on
the people that are paying the rates to these utility monopolies,
just to make this data center theoretically possible. And then

(14:24):
also they would be giving a tax abatements, so you're
not getting anything in the form of taxation either. This
is just a giveaway, a free beat to the tech
giants and to one of the most powerful corporations in
the United States, Google. We have no business in giving
them free money. They have enough money. They certainly don't
need it from the residents of Indianapolis. So I'm glad

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that Jesse Brown and the Council Republicans will be opposing
establishing the data center down there in Franklin Township because
we don't need the thing. It offers us nothing, and
we stand a significant amount to lose by installing it
elsewhere in the city of Indianapolis. We keep seeing stories
like this over and over and over again. It's disgusting,

(15:07):
but at this point it is It's predictable because the
revolving door of the criminal justice system, and specifically the
actions of Ryan Friend of the miss Grant Mears, prosecutor
here in Indianapolis, that gives the sweetheart deals to violent criminals.
This time, this was a nineteen year old who was
accused of shooting a rival gang member's house on Indy's

(15:28):
Near West Side five days Producer Jack, five days after
he took a plea deal from Ryan Mears that put
him on a GPS monitoring system. So earlier last year
due to investigation about gang activity on the West Side
surrounding several members of the Taliban Choppa gang. One of

(15:49):
them that was arrested was eighteen year old at the time,
Hector Soarez for dealing marijuana and engaging in gang violence.
Ryan Mears offered him a plea deal to accept. I
believe it was the marijuana charge, but dropped the serious
criminal gang activity and dismissed by July twenty eighth, when
he was released on a GPS monitor. But five days later,

(16:11):
on August sixth, was when he allegedly drove to a
home near Tenth Street in King Road, firing dozens of
gunshots into the house, and his GPS monitor put him
at the scene of the crime. So, Producer Jack, we're
clearly not dealing with a brainiac here if you were
wearing a tracking device to commit your criminal activity. But unfortunate,

(16:33):
but this is predictable because he already had a proclivity
for activities just like that. Ryan Mears knew it, certainly,
anybody with an ounce of common sense knew it. And
he let him back out on society to re offend anyway.
And that's the problem that many critics of Ryan friend
of the Miss Grant Mears have of the way he

(16:55):
runs the prosecutor's department, because there's never any accountability for
the criminals, and it's the citizens who are far too
often caught in the crossfire. So yeah, just another another
example of what's been going on around here in the
city of Indianapolis. There was a rather dramatic scene unfolded
this week at a Micah beckwith town Hall event. Have

(17:16):
you have you seen this? Producer Jack? There was some
crazy footage. It was a liberal woman who got who
let her emotions get the better of her, and she
put her hands on a police officer and the situation,
uh deteriorated from there. This was footage that was republished
by WISH TV eight.

Speaker 10 (18:01):
Where we want to Shorty, why is there as here out.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
You don't you don't.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Escalate this?

Speaker 12 (18:21):
I would everybody has everybody's really drop and I understand that.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
They shouldn't have their hands on somebody. Let me go.

Speaker 11 (18:43):
You were hurting.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Boys related quickly.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I mean that really got out.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Of hand fast.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
It jumped up a notch, it did, didn't it? So
suffice to say, the situation quickly spiraled out of control.
These are people who are not in charge of their emotions,
and Micah Beckwith knows that. I actually appreciated Rob Kendall's
take this week on the Kendell and Casey program when
he indicated that he believes Micah Beckw is holding these
town halls to elicit that response from liberal audience members.

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It's what he wants. Charlie Kirk, who is a conservative
pundit and campus instigator, is famous for interactions just like
this at campuses around America. But that's fine because he's
a pundit, he's a commentator, he's an entertainer. He's somebody
that's trying to get his brand and his name recognized
on social media. Micah Beckw is in the government. Micah

(19:49):
beck With is Lieutenant Governor. Micah Beckwith should be spending
his time finding ways to either do his job or
improve the lives of Hoosiers in the state of Indiana.
And what he's not doing in these town halls is
gaining any level of insight on how to govern better
in the state of Indiana. He's not getting information that
is being used to propose legislation he's doing this to

(20:12):
get his name out there, to push his brand and
try and make this the staging area or the staging
setting setting, laying the groundwork, I should say, for pursuing
office elsewhere. I mean, I think, and I also believe
that's part of the reason why he supports redistricting, because

(20:34):
he would absolutely love a shot at a relatively safe,
guaranteed congressional seat here in the state of Indiana, mark
my words, Mark my words. But what he's not doing
is bettering your life by engaging in these things. And
I don't oppose the liberals being arrested. Obviously, they lost
control of themselves and they got what they what they deserve.

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But at the same time, this isn't beneficial to you
or me. Thanks for listening to nine three WIBC Saturday
Night on the Circle. Coming up next the Sound Dump.
Don't miss it, loved.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Indeed, if you're listening to Saturday Night on this Circle
on nighty three WYPC ninety five.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to put on your handy.
Dandy has Matt's suit once again. As we wade through
another week in news. This week, we'll begin across the
pond in Scotland, where a self proclaimed tribe of transient
Africans have set up camp in the woods to re
establish what they believe is their lost kingdom. A golfer
at the BMW Golf Championships won a two million dollar

(21:42):
prize after a fly helped him sink a shot in
a once in a lifetime show stopping moments. A Florida
congresswoman has been triggered by a normal, non rainbow crosswalk
and now demands pedestrian infrastructure of firm minority sexualities. Finally,
you'll hear CNN apply a surprisingly come elementary nickname to
President Trump, and you'll hear it all on this edition

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of The Sound Dump.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I'd take it job. It's the Saturday Night Sound Dump
on wy PC.

Speaker 13 (22:16):
I take you.

Speaker 14 (22:19):
So you decide you know you are?

Speaker 15 (22:24):
Oh my god it.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle. I'm your
host Ethan Hatcher. That's Producer Jack on the board, pushing
the buttons and doing the things to make the show function.
We begin in Scotland, Producer Jack, where of all things,
three people have now set up camp in the woods.
These are Africans who claim to represent a lost tribe

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and are re establishing the Kubala Kingdom in Scotland. Producer. Yeah, Africans,
an African tribe in Scotland. One of them is a
self proclaimed king, the others a self proclaimed queen. And
then they have a handmaiden and you won't believe where

(23:12):
she's from.

Speaker 12 (23:13):
So we just wanted to come and speak to you
and to see what's been happening, how you feel.

Speaker 13 (23:19):
What you're doing here.

Speaker 16 (23:21):
They are Kobala tribe.

Speaker 13 (23:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 16 (23:34):
Allak tribe used to be in this land four hundred
years in Foo clock Chi were deported from this land

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during the time of release. Been a fest and believe
a come. He went to Poted to Jamaica, Haiti three.
Anybody to petle? Sure?

Speaker 13 (24:08):
Now?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Can I ask you a question? Sure? Anything?

Speaker 12 (24:12):
Why don't you go back to your own house and
stop bothering us?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
So this king, he's been spotted around town there in
Scotland at various fast food establishments, just trying to cruise
off their free WiFi for customers. So this king, his
real name is Kofi Afa. He's a thirty six year
old from Ghana. His queen by the name of Jean Geshou.
She's from Zimbabwe. And then like I said, they're handmaiden.

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She's possibly the strangest of all because it turns out
this handmaiden was a woman who was missing from Texas
and here she shows up all the way in Scotland,
now part of this made up African kingdom, hanging out
in the woods, the Kubala Kingdom, where she thinks she's
a handmaiden, and this her I.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
Am the handmade the queen, and.

Speaker 14 (25:04):
I am the inferior mystery, and I also play at
the syrigi for the Queen. I'm also the bondwoman of
the king, which I did not have the formal title
of a wife. He is my husband and we are
a tribe.

Speaker 17 (25:21):
The Kingdom of Kubbala has been on a pilgrimage to
our lost heritage, following the roots of ancesses, back to
the land where Jacob our whole father laide his stone,
the stone of.

Speaker 11 (25:35):
Scorn with oil.

Speaker 17 (25:38):
Oh my, after he pot the oil, he said, one
day the Messiah, his son Shiloh, turn to Scotland and
he shall build back the lost heritage, the lost kingdom,

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last kingdom.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
A little where slightly crazy, So this is just reinforcing
the old adage that if you import the third world,
you will become the third world. Clearly, these individuals are
a little off kilter and birds of a feather. They
flock together, the crazies, they just know how to find
each other. And this woman, she says she's all right.
She posted a video and released the UK authorities and said,

(26:25):
obviously I am not missing, leave me alone. I'm an
adult and not a helpless child. So how she ended
up in Scotland remains unknown, but you know, at least
now her family knows where she ended up. She is
in the Kubala Kingdom in the Scottish woods. Hopefully they'll
get Scotland yard on top of that, because I don't
think you can have these mentally unstable crazies running around

(26:47):
your woods. That's not good for anybody. Here was a
show stopping moment that was caught at the BMW Golf
Championships producer Jack. The best part was this was caught
on camera where a golf ball had rolled right to
the very edge of the hole. It was literally just
barely able to go in, and a fly crawling across

(27:11):
the ball was what made the difference. This was caught
on camera for his first.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Body of the day.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
My word, that is sitting right on the edge of
the car.

Speaker 9 (27:30):
I'm not going to walk a bit slower, Tommy, give
it a minute.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
There you go, may watch the fly.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
There he is on the there he comes, and he goes.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Now, I'm not having this.

Speaker 9 (27:42):
I'm going to wander over over the equator and then
we go.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Thank you very much. So the difference between Tommy Fleetwood
winning two million dollars and him coming away with nothing
was that fly that crawled across his ball. He felt
like the luffy luckiest golfer in the world. This is incredible.
How many how many times have you ever seen something

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like that happen in sports? Producer Jack, I don't think
there's a sport there would have matter as much as golf,
because what is a fly gonna be landing on a
football and making a difference. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Yeah,
it's a pretty crazy coincidence. And even better that the
spectacle was it was made for TV. It was literally
made for TV. Thanks for listening to Saturday Night on

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the Circle ninety three WIBC last weekend. This has been
an old hat at this point, but we had I
thought it was two dozen but I think I'm being
a little bit generous. There as closer to a dozen,
according to reports from TV of jack booted thugs Nazis

(28:47):
who were all dressed up in black walking around downtown Indianapolis,
and social media was sent to tizzy by this. It
got extensive coverage on local media, and even the Chief
of Police made sure to release a statement to cool
temperatures well tonight.

Speaker 18 (29:05):
The Chief of Police and the head of the Indianapolis
Fraternal Order of Police responding to a viral video of
a Nazi rally held downtown this weekend. Now, we've made
the decision to not show the video to you here,
but in it you can see that about a dozen
men dressed head to toe in all black. They carried
swansick of flags, chanted white power, and marched around doing

(29:30):
the Hitler salute. Some even carried assault rifles. Chief Bailing
writing on X tonight that IMPD closely monitored that demonstration,
but says, quote, safeguarding First Amendment rights, even for those
whose views we find reprehensible, is a responsibility we take seriously.
But let me be clear, protecting those rights is not

(29:51):
an endorsement of those beliefs. Not now, not ever again,
that's the chief.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Hell Lease murderer.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Now, first and foremost, screw these guys. I don't think
it really needs to be said. Anybody with a good
head on their shoulders is not going to align themselves
with these jack Buddha thugs marching around downtown Indianapolis. But
that said, there were like like I said, maybe ten
of them tops. They were making their salutes and they

(30:19):
were shouting their chants, and that was it, Producer Jack.
I remember the Black Lives Matter riots and it was
nowhere near as peaceful, and yet we did not get
this level of breathless media and media and social media
coverage from the riots in downtown Indianapolis. They were defacing monuments,
they were smashing small businesses, people died, Producer Jack. The

(30:43):
streets were temporarily closed downtown as they were trying to
contain the riots. I barely was able to leave the station.
The point being they did the people marching around downtown
dressed up like Nazis didn't even do a fraction the
damage of the Black Lives Matter protests. But we didn't
get a statement from the chief police. Then, I think

(31:06):
this is an overreaction. Let the dorks walk around downtown.
They didn't smash anything, they didn't harass anybody, and nobody
supports them either, nor should they. And yet we got
this hyperbolic, hyperactive overreaction to a bunch of dorks walking
around downtown. And I don't think it was that deep,
Nor do I think it's that deep that the Florida

(31:27):
Department Transportation decided to paint over one of these rainbow crosswalks.
And I think it was Orlan. Yeah, Orlando, Florida, and
representative on a Eskenazi. She's not having it. She's flipping
her lid. She's totally triggered by a non rainbow crosswalk
producer Jack imagine being so fragile.

Speaker 12 (31:49):
Hey, everyone is representative of Anna Escimoni. And I'm here
right now at the Pulse Rainbow crosswalk that after I
thought was appropriate to sneak into our community and middle
of the night and to totally arrase. I think it's so
important to remember that ef DOT decided that Governor Desanta's decided,
out of all the crosswalks, eliminate to do this one,

(32:12):
which is right outside paul Snight Club with forty nine
mostly elgy because most people were murdered.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
In twenty sixteen.

Speaker 12 (32:19):
This crosswalk was never about politics for us. It was
about love, safety, It was about creating a spark of
joy for folks who come by. It's about finding power
and pain. They're the ones who made it political today, boo,
And they're the ones who decided it was appropriate to
erase an higher community here in Orlando.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Oo.

Speaker 12 (32:41):
We're not gonna let it stand or do everything we
can to restore this crosswalk. But they also fight back
against the extremism coming out of both State of Florida
and the White House.

Speaker 19 (32:52):
That's terrible. You seem kind of silent, but I wasn't bound.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
I was stoked.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
The reason why they painted over this producer Jack is
because pedestrian infrastructure needs to be standardized. It needs to
be instantly recognizable. That's the point of having signage and
infrastructure to begin with. If you start messing with that,
you start messing with instantly recognizable features, you invite a
little bit of chaos to your roadway. And second of all,

(33:26):
we do not need crosswalks to affirm our sexuality. If
you want to erect a memorial for the Pulse night
club shootings, that's fine, but a crosswalk ain't it, especially
when you're going to use that as an excuse to
charge people with a hate crime for driving over it
when a crosswalk is designed to be driven over to
begin with. So I think that this breathless outrage over

(33:49):
losing a rainbow crosswalk is totally misguided. And you know,
I'm going to throw that right back at them. You
know they were all the time teasing conservatives and say, oh,
you're triggered by a rainbow crosswalk. Well now they're triggered
by a non rainbow crosswalk. They are out of breathless
and threatened by just a normal crosswalk. These people are nuts.

(34:10):
Producer Jack, speaking of nuts, CNN, they applied what I
think is a surprisingly complimentary nickname to producer or to
President Trump following his law enforcement action in the city
of Washington, d C. Where now they're comparing him to Batman.

Speaker 18 (34:31):
Let's get right to what America is talking about.

Speaker 12 (34:34):
Donald Trump makes himself Batman and the nation's capital is
Gotham City.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
The president of the.

Speaker 18 (34:39):
United States has declared himself crime fighter in chief, and
he's taking over Washington's police force.

Speaker 20 (34:45):
He didn't do anything.

Speaker 13 (34:50):
Because he's the hero. Cross inducers were not the white
names run out, So we'll hugged him because he could
take it. Because he's not a hero. He's as side

(35:15):
of guardian. I'm watchful protector. But Doc Night, I.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Don't think CNN thought that went through thoroughly. But hey,
if they want to compare him to one of the
coolest comic book characters and the Cape in the Caped Crusader,
let him have at it. Stay tuned for more here
on Saturday Night on the Circle coming up next.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
This is Saturday Night on the Circle Night three WYBC.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Well looks like Producer Jack. These billionaires just can't leave
well enough alone. According to reports from the Post New
York Post, they are saying that another unnamed billionaire plans
to return to the wreck of the Titanic, more than
two years after the infamous Ocean Gate disaster that resulted

(36:10):
in the fatalities of all aboard. You know what, Producer
Jack to that, I say, go for it, have at it.
If these billionaires want to spend their spend millions of
dollars of money and risk their lives to traverse to
the bottom of the ocean just to see the wreck
of the Titanic, I completely understand, But that said, they're
on their own, Producer Jack. If this happens again, there

(36:34):
should be no expectation that there will be a global
search for the wreckage or for their submersible. If something
wrong should happen again, we cannot afford to throw the
world's resources after these billionaires putting themselves in sticky situations.
So look, if you want to go back down to
the reck of the Titanic, that's fine. But if you

(36:55):
do so, you're on your own. I think that's only fair.
Stay tuned for our two coming up next on Saturday
Night on the Circle.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Seems like man can't trust you can today.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Loves down, death is here to stay.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
You were listening to Saturday Night on the Circle on
ninety three WYPC gets one.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Welcome to hour two of Saturday Night on the Circle.
I'm your bespectacled Grimudge and Ethan Hatcher. Producer Jack is
on the board, and if you missed a moment of
the show, make sure to find our podcasts uploaded to
WIBC dot com, as well as my personal podcasting page
Saturday Night on the Circle dot Fireside dot FM. This segment,
I wanted to touch briefly on one of the most

(37:50):
troubling stories to make the rounds in the news this week,
stemming from an accident about eleven days ago on August twelfth,
that was caused by an illegal immigrant truck driver. You
probably heard it discussed on the Fox Top the Hour
News Update, killing three people, Producer Jack. And this was
an entirely unnecessary, totally preventable accident that was caused by

(38:15):
the negligence and recklessness of this illegal immigrant who was
attempting to do a U turn in an illegal U
turn zone. This was for an access for maintenance workers
and patrol vehicles, but not certainly for trucks or for
other interstate vehicles. They are forbidden from using it, and
that didn't stop this guy who blocked the total width

(38:38):
of the road with his trailer. Even if the driver
wanted to at the moment he saw the vehicle blocking
his path and slammed on the brakes, it still would
have been too late, and unfortunately it resulted in the
death of all three individuals in that Chrysler. But what
really grinds my gears here, Producer Jack. In addition to
being an illegal immigrant who was given a commercial driver's

(39:02):
license both in California and in the state of Washington,
and those are difficult to get. They do not hand
out commercial driver's licenses, or they shouldn't to just anybody,
although it appears that they do in liberal states like
California and Washington. But despite having that driver's license, when
the Department of Transportation federal authorities finally questioned Harjonder Singh,

(39:26):
he got just two of twelve questions correct when being
tested for sign reading English language proficiency, and out of
the four major highway signs that they showed him, he
was just able to correctly identify one of them. And
if I had to guess, it was probably the stop sign.
I don't know that for sure, but if you're going
to recognize anything, probably going to be that famous red

(39:46):
octagonal stop sign. But this is the danger of licensing
illegal immigrants putting them in charge of forty ton commercial vehicles.
And it's the recklessness that liberals are inviting onto our
roadways that is endangering lives. And now you have governors
like JB. Pritzker over there in Illinois. He's doubling down.

(40:10):
He says it's not good enough, and Democrats will continue
to stand for this lawlessness, continue to protect illegal immigrants
and damn the consequences on your personal life, something that
he also inflicted in the state of Illinois when any
illegal immigrants killed one of the citizens in that state.

Speaker 21 (40:29):
Potential twenty twenty eight presidential candidate JB. Pritzker isn't backing
down on Democrat Party policies.

Speaker 10 (40:36):
To the pundits and the critics about what direction the
national Democratic Party needs to go, I say, take a
look at Illinois Democrats.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yes, winning elections.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
He is partly about messaging and strategy, but it's mostly
about values and delivering on them.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
And our values are exactly where they ought to be.

Speaker 21 (40:58):
But sadly those same values and policies or what allowed
on a legal migrant with a history of drunk driving
to crash into and kill Darcy Connolly Brunner, the mother
of former WNBA star Sophie Brunner. Police say he was
driving in Freeport, Illinois when he crossed into the opposite lane,
striking Brunner head on, killing them.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Bold evil, I am I an evil person? Oh my god,
I mean absolutely. Do I not tell you that enough?
You are like the most evil guy I know.

Speaker 13 (41:30):
Man.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
It's not racist, it's not discriminatory. It's not exclusionary to
require people driving on your roadways to read the signs,
Producer Jacket. If I traveled over to England or to
the Europe, I should say I would not be able
to drive in France, I would not be able to
drive in Italy. I would not be able to drive

(41:51):
in Germany. Why It's not because I can't drive a
car well enough here. It's because I can't read those signs,
producer jackets, because I am not famili with their laws,
with their signs, and I could endanger somebody if I
were put on the roadways. Those same rules very obviously
should apply here in America as well. But liberals are

(42:12):
so lost in their confused ideology that they believe it's
unfair and discriminatory to require people to be able to
operate motor vehicles functionally and efficiently here in the United States.
And that's ridiculous. It's something that is actually endangering and
putting lives at risk, because, like I said at the

(42:34):
beginning of the segment, those three people, their lives were
totally wasted. It was utterly preventable. This was not an accident.
It was a malicious negligence, and it was inflicted by
liberals who are lost in their ideology and are endangering
your lives to make their utopian values come to fruition.

(42:58):
So yeah, I think it's unacceptable. And now the fat
FEDS are obviously prosecuting the illegal immigrant truck driver and
his brother is being deported as well, so more power
to him. Thanks for listening to ninety three w ib C.
Coming up next, Friend of the Show, Brian Baker comes
back on the program and we're going to talk about

(43:20):
changes that are washing over Hollywood. So stay tuned for
that conversation coming up next.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
If you're listening to Saturday Night on This Circle on
nighty three WYBC, welcome.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Back to Saturday Night on the Circle. I'm your Bohemian
coddre Ethan Hatcher. The podcasts are uploaded to w IBC
dot com and Saturday Night on the Circle dot Fireside,
dot f M, plus you can in the YouTube chat
from seven to nine every Saturday Night. It seems now
that the winds of change are blowing through Hollywood, as
Paramount CEO David Ellison announced the company would shift focus

(44:10):
and make more fun movies geared towards Middle America elsewhere
other executives also appear to be reading the tea leaves
and reevaluating their productions after a decade of DEI infused
devastation wrought across the industry. But are these changes too little,
too late, especially as production companies now face the added
cost of tariffs factored into their budget thanks to the
Trump administration. To answer these questions and more, we're joined

(44:33):
by the writer, broadcaster, and stuntman extraordinaire, the always insightful
Gentlemen for Georgia, Brian Baker, joins the program. Thanks for
coming on the show, man, it's been a while. Happy
to have you here one.

Speaker 11 (44:45):
Yeah, what an interpert. Thanks for having me back on, man.
I feel like I'm coming home finally.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
It's been way too long, So tell us what you've
been up to in Georgia. What's going on lately.

Speaker 11 (44:56):
It's been a crazy year, man. My daughter nine this
year and she just started up in fourth grade, and
I've been out kind of living amongst the normies in
the real world, selling machinery, which we're gonna talk a
little bit about that, I know, but like everybody else
in America, just kind of keep those paid and food

(45:16):
on the table, and you know, do our best to
have a little bit of fun in between.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, it's hard to keep food on the table when
the prices at the grocery store keep going up and
up and up. And now it's you know, even steaks
are getting priced out of most American dinner tables, and
that's like the most American of meats. It's disappointing.

Speaker 11 (45:31):
Yes, And let me tell you, it's coming in a
terrible time for me because, like I've been dealing with
these weird health issues for the last couple of years,
and I just decided that I'm doing the carboard diet.
And I'm amazed at the research people that get on
and all me died and they wind up just their
problems with inflammation and all kinds of different diseases and

(45:54):
ailments to just they get massive, massive improvements. So I thought,
you know what, nothing else has been working for me
to give this a try. And you know what, man,
like I feel great. The only problem is I'm going
to take out a second mortgage on the home in
order to finance the food.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Just to keep it all going. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
it's a nightmare. But one thing I wanted to tap
your opinion on was Paramount CEO David Ellison announcing that
he's going to shift focus for the company to make
more fun movies that are geared towards Middle America. And
I think you see this, this kind of ethos being
resonated elsewhere. I've now seen reports that Disney is looking

(46:31):
for another franchise that's gonna bring back young men into
into watching their movies. So it seems like the the
the Hollywood CEOs have finally gotten the message that this
DEI storytelling isn't panning out. I think I also just
saw another headline that not a single one of these
big tent pole movies have crossed seven hundred million dollars

(46:51):
at the box office this year. That's got to be
a problem.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (46:55):
Well, and by the way, what one of those those
heads of the city is tell you is that of
those for auctions will be made overseas and they won't
be employing any kind of crew here in the US
who'll just fly over from their A listers and ge
all those nice tax advantages from places like Ireland and Australia.
But yeah, you know, I think there's a couple of
things going on. I think the American tastes have certainly

(47:16):
adjusted a little bit because we had all that di
craft just jammed down our throat so long the Superhero movie.
I mean, that trend has been going on for at
least what twenty years now, so it kind of feels
like that's played itself out. But just think about how
chaotic life is and how many stressors we've got going
on and costs of living. I mean, it's just every
single day you are exposed to more and more horror

(47:39):
that's going on around the world. I think it's kind
of this thing where people just want to escape and
have feel good stories and look at something like you know,
the Chosen. I mean, there's something that it just this
huge phenomenon that has captured people all across the country
watching this together as and escaping the reality of of

(48:00):
what we deal with just today here in the world.
Right now, with just all the political climate and the
economic challenges, people just want more and more escapism. You know,
we wouldn't it be grand to get back to the
days when we have shows the Andy Griffith's Show and
lists tread I don't think we'll ever go that far,
but I have to say that I'm sure that these CEOs.
It's not as though out of out of some kind

(48:20):
of I don't know, I guess moral compass. They're saying, gee,
we really ought to contribute something good to the world.
We really to try and lift people up instead of
try and force our opinions down their throats. Change. It's
just about they're going to be able to make their
money and so trends it's helping, and so that's what
they're going to chase.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah. No, it's absolutely out of financial necessity because they
have completely devastated their own industry and they've changed things
so much. I'm curious about your opinion on how things
have changed. They're in Georgia. You mentioned that now a
lot of the productions are taking place overseas, but at
least that part of that's got to be fallout from
the strikes that happened a couple of years ago, where

(49:00):
were negotiating these higher contract budgets and then trying to
get a guaranteed number of positions on the writers. Uh uh,
you know, for the for the writers on these production teams,
and that's going to drive up costs and sure, yeah,
things are going to go overseas. How's how does it
impact the kids over there in Georgia.

Speaker 11 (49:18):
Well, I mean that's that's why I got out. I
saw this coming a long long time ago. And the strikes,
I mean, yeah, that was absolutely the final nail of
the pop And as if these unions were trying to
negotiate like it was a good old days forty years
ago when you could really throw their way, they throw
their weight around it and demand you know, higher and
higher wages and all kinds of benefits, and it's just,

(49:39):
you know, the economic realities of the business have changed,
but also the fact that technology has come along and
it's made it so easy for productions to be mobile
and quite frankly, are you know. Georgia of course had
its own instance in which drive a lot of business
away from California. They were shooting movies here in Georgia,
they were shooting movies in Texas and even some other

(49:59):
in Ohio. But now it's a global game. So you
have just like Australia or Ireland, as I mentioned the
beginning of our interview, that are really aggressive and you
can shift an entire crew over to these countries. You
can put them up in hotels, you can feed them
over there and spend five months shooting the movie and
it's much much cheaper than just using local crew in

(50:20):
Los Angeles and shooting in LA. So it's a major
problem and I don't think the production is ever coming back.
I mean, the one that really upset me the most
was it was a movie that came out about a
year ago with Ryan Gosling called The fall Guy, based
on the old nineteen eighties TV series with Lead Majors,
where he played a stuntman who was also a private
eye or bounty hunter.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah. I remember when it was released.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
I didn't catch that theaters.

Speaker 11 (50:43):
Yeah, well, no more quintessential like nineteen eighties TV series
is in terms of like highlighting Los Angeles all these
great LA locations, and they shot the entire film, the
movie that they did with Gosling, they shot the entire
thing in Australia. You know, it just doesn't feel right,
you know. But yeah, I think the industry on the

(51:03):
whole has changed, and streaming changed everything, and there was
a huge explosion right after COVID when everybody was able
to get back to work and there was this backlog
of a production that needed to be completed. So for
a while, I mean, the number of people that were
being employed in the industry went way way up, and
then you had your COVID compliance officers, which also added

(51:25):
to the number of people that were making their living
in the film industry. And then once the streamers started
pulling back and realizing, you know this, this model is working,
a lot of people kind of found themselves having to
figure out what else they're going to do to make
a living. It has killed some businesses down here. I
mean cracking vehicles that are utilized. They have camera cranes
on the cameras and they captured chase scenes and stunts,

(51:45):
and I mean they're struggling just to keep their doors
open at this point in time. Prior to the strike
and they were going like gangbusters. So I think the
industry is irreparably harmed by what happened. It's just not
going to come back.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Tell us how tariffs are factored into all this, because
I know you've got a few thoughts about the tariff
roller coaster that the Trump administration is wrought on our economy.
You never know what's going to be. It's you know,
this percent one day, it's that percent another day. And
he appears to be using this as a negotiating tactic,
but it's wreaking some real havoc in the economy.

Speaker 11 (52:17):
Well yeah, and it's really hurting a lot of manufacturers.
And that's what I'm dealing with on a regular basis
now because I mean I'm out in the field selling
large industrial machinery. Right. So these are big like fiber lasers,
industrial lasers. They're used for cutting plate and sheet metal,
things like press brakes, shears. Well, there are tons and
tons of manufacturing facilities all across the country and what

(52:40):
they call job shops, little shops that have, you know,
several different pieces of equipment and they'll get in order
to bend certain number parts, you know, you know whoever
the manufacturer is. They might be working for for BMW,
maybe they're making you know, insert or for the car doors,
or you know, they've got stamp presses. A lot of
work up are shops that are doing metalworking. Right. So

(53:02):
what happens is Trump talks about wanting to bring all
of this work back to the US and being manufacturing
back to the US, and that's great. What the issue
is that a lot of the machines that are made
that you have to have in order to actually run
these businesses come from other countries. They're built in Germany,
they're built in Italy. Right, So when you have these

(53:25):
machines that are required for these folks to run their businesses,
coming from other countries and you slap them with a ten,
fifteen to twenty percent tariff, it dramatically increases the cost
of that piece of equipment to the end user because
the importers are not the ones that are paying the
taxes on those machines. So a perfect example, and it

(53:47):
shows how portally this entire policy was implemented and just
how they didn't think things through properly. I had a
customer up in Northern Georgia and they do a lot
of work for the HVAH industry. Right, they bought a
laser from me. Laser comes from Italy. They bought it
in the end of twenty twenty four, before Trump went

(54:09):
into office, before these tariffs went into play, right, Yeah,
the machine didn't get delivered until twenty twenty five after
the tariffs went into place. Well, the terraffs there was
no grace window. Well, it just was immediately anything that
as soon as it hits the US shore, if the
tariffs are in place. It doesn't matter when you bought it,

(54:30):
when the po went through. Now you've got to pay
this tariff. So I got a customer who buys a
million dollar machine and all of a sudden, he has
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars that he's got to
come up with and tariff that he has to add
now to the costs of this equipment that he wasn't
counting on when he bought it in twenty twenty four.
Then you have other places like the company I call
on the make poulsry processing equipment. A lot of the

(54:54):
parts that they need in order to build these poultry
processing lines, a lot of the parts that they need
actually come from China. Well, that's a major problem when
Trump Solongia says we're going to put a fifty percent
tariff on Chinese imports. And the problem for manufacturers is
nobody has any direction or any idea what's happening from
day to day because it's constantly changing depending on what

(55:15):
Trump's mood is. Right, So, well, that's really I mean
well intentioned, poorly implemented, and poorly thought out in advance.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
That's the problem with the whole tariff thing because economies
thrive on consistency and stability, and when the markets are
unpredictable are when we get these huge retractions in any industry.
And that's the element X that's being thrown into the
economy right now with the Trump tariffs and why they're
so ill advised. Unfortunately, Brian, we're run out of times,

(55:43):
so we got to leave it there. But I appreciate
you coming on the show man, thanks for sharing your
thoughts and I'd love to have you back again sometime soon.

Speaker 11 (55:51):
Yeah. Thanks, man, I appreciate you having on bud.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Stay tuned to ninety three WIBC. This is Saturday Night
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Speaker 2 (56:10):
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Saturday night. Ham and the Chat and join the Fund
in their hasty quest to expand their power in Congress.

(56:37):
It appears Republicans are edging ever closer to igniting a
Jerryanandering civil war across America. Democrats in California have already
moved to counteract texas proposed politically driven redistrict thing of
their own state. This crass politization of redistricting powers has
the potential to backfire spectacularly on Republicans, and now Indiana
looks to follow this directive and potentially call a special

(56:59):
session to further cement their power at enormous cost to taxpayers.
There's one man who's willing to call balls and strikes
on both parties because no politician should have a guaranteed
seat to power, and that man is producer Carl, who
joins us for another edition of Carl's Conspiracy Corner.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
You were listening to Carl's Conspiracy Corner.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
The truth is out there.

Speaker 13 (57:23):
Have you ever seen a coming drink a glass of water?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Well, y can't say I have.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
The views expressed by conspiracy Caral are those of Caral
and Caral alone. They are enough of use of his
station or its distributors. I mean, obviously.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
We're back beneath the streets of Indianapolis. Deep in a
undisclosed broadcasting bunker, producer Carl tell us more about this
special session that Indiana Republicans are now calling for to
redistrict the state and get what another two seats in
Congress maybe.

Speaker 22 (57:55):
One additional seat, maybe one, because they're not going to
get cars in seat, right.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
So they wouldn't call a special session for a tax relief,
for property tax relief, but they will do it to
help cement their power in Congress. So if it benefits them,
they'll call a special session. And oh, by the way,
of course, there's an enormous cost to you that's baked
in there.

Speaker 22 (58:15):
Yes, So with the introduction, one would think as an
outsider to knowing me, they would think that I would
be opposed to the redistricting just based on that argument, like,
what are we going to gain here? One seat? What
I'm appalled by is this cost of this special session.
Jacob Stewart from The Indie Star was on the Kendall
and Casey program the other day. Let's hear it.

Speaker 8 (58:37):
But you know a special session would also cost at
least half a million, if not more, depending on how
long it came.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
So let's talk about that. Because Braun came out the
other day and tried to go, oh, it'll be like
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 22 (58:49):
There's no way they're doing a special session for one
hundred fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
Yeah, maybe a couple legislators paychecks would be one hundred
and fifty Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Well you and you're the perfect guy asked this question
because you worked there. You know how this oportuity is
full of it when it's saying undred.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
Petright, it's a part time legislature, So what we're paying
them now is just for the first Every other year
it's January through March, and then every budget session it's
January through around May. So if we have a special session,
that's all the salaries of these legislatures are legislators that
we need to pay per DM.

Speaker 11 (59:18):
Now.

Speaker 22 (59:18):
When I heard the one the one hundred and fifty
one thousand dollars mark, I was horrified by that. I'm like,
why why is it one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
to basically do a hand vote and say all those
four redistricting say I, all those opposed say nay, haven't

(59:39):
they heard of zoom?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Well, don't forget these are the same people who are
willing to pay twenty eight thousand dollars to ferry Governor
Brawn back and forth. Yeah, frum his house and jasper
to the state House with a helicopter. This is ridiculous.

Speaker 22 (59:53):
When we are introduced to the concept of our government,
we are we are told that the people in government
are public servants. So where did that whole public servant
thing go? Clearly, they're not there to serve the public.
They're there to serve themselves. Right, This is not a
job that you should be getting rich off of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
This has nothing to do with an enormous population influx
to Indiana. This is obviously politically driven, and at best
you're getting an additional two seats for Congress, but you're
igniting this jerrymandering civil war. And when you have high
density Democrat states like New York or California or Illinois,

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they can inflict a lot of reciprocal damage if that's
the direction the country is going to go. This has
no benefit to anyone, including of course ultimately Hoosiers, because
when you guarantee any politician a permanent seat to power,
immediately they become complacent and driven by their own interests,
not the interest of the people.

Speaker 22 (01:00:55):
Well, jd Vance has an answer to what you said.

Speaker 23 (01:00:58):
We spoke with the governor, with Speaker of the House
there in Indiana, and the Senate President, and the message
I delivered as pretty straightforward.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
We want to unified Republican team.

Speaker 23 (01:01:05):
We want to fight together, win together, make big things
happen for the American people and obviously the people the
state of Indiana together. But one of the things that
you see in a lot of red states is blue
states have really aggressively jerrymandered such that they've actually made
it harder for the majority of the state of Indiana
to have their voice heard in their federal elections. Because

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if California has crazy jerry manders, Illinois has crazy jerry manders,
New York has crazy jerry manders. What it does is
it actually suppresses the will of the people in states
like Indiana.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
And the other thing that we talked about, and I
think we.

Speaker 23 (01:01:39):
Realize this Maria, until a couple of years ago, that
you know, for apportioning representatives, you actually count illegal aliens.
So even though illegal aliens theoretically are not supposed to vote,
we know sometimes they do, you still count illegal aliens
for congressional apportionment. So California has way more House seats
than it should because they have such a high population
of illegal aliens.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
So they get awarded for welcome.

Speaker 23 (01:02:01):
The illegal aliens in their state, giving them federal benefits,
actually asking the taxpayers of states like Ohio to subsidize them,
And then those taxpayers in Ohio and Indiana and elsewhere
they have fewer congressional representatives because of what California.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Has allowed to happen.

Speaker 23 (01:02:16):
That's ridiculously unfair and the only real way to fight
back against it is for us to redistrict in some
ways as aggressively as these hard blue states have done.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
No, no, JD, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
He was on fire?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
He was I mean, he really hit. He nailed the
heart of the issue, which is the fact that they
have deluded the congressional representation of Middle America by this
enormous influx of illegal immigrants who are accounted for congressional
purposes even though they don't have the ability to vote.
So yes, that has enormously benefited California. But the solution

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isn't too aggressively. Jerrymander and redistrict Republican states. It's to
challenge this at the Supreme Court and get there votes
excluded from congressional representation in the census. That's the game
that Democrats are played. They're played well, I he totally
skipped over the point. Yeah, I rarely disagree with you, Ethan.

Speaker 22 (01:03:11):
The concern is is that the Republicans have a very
thin majority in the House, and we know darn well
if the Democrats recapture the House, it's going to be
the last two years of Donald trump impeachment. Nothing will
get done.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Now.

Speaker 22 (01:03:27):
Now, Rob Kendall would make the argument, yeah, well, what
will the Republicans do. They will just do nonsense and
increase your taxes, increase your cast I we don't have
enough time to go into all that. What I wanted
to highlight of what jd Vance said there was what
California and what other Blue states are doing is they're

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suppressing the votes of flyover country. And I have been
saying this to you and to all the people that
work here at the radio station over and over again.
That is the argument to take out the electoral vote
of all of these states that don't require IDs. If

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they don't require IDs, we cannot with certainty know that
these people actually won elections. It's a joke. It doesn't
matter really what Gavin Newsom says. They can just install
Democrats and say we won, and that's that's because people
were upset by Donald Trump. You cannot certify the validity

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with no IDs, and what the Republicans must do and
what they're not going to do. This is why I
call their bluff, is they will not address the crux
of the issue, which is Blue states have illegitimate elections
and we shouldn't even certify their elections and having them

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as congress people in the House. If you don't have an.

Speaker 9 (01:04:56):
ID, it's it's it's it's taking away our.

Speaker 22 (01:05:00):
Vote here when another state is cheating.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
So you and I have a point of agreement that
the counting illegal immigrants is diluting the votes in Middle
America by overrepresenting Blue states that welcome these immigrants into insurance.

Speaker 22 (01:05:16):
But counting their votes too, which they can't certify.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
So so my question is why isn't the solution to
challenge this at the Supreme Court level, especially when you
know that you have a fairly receptive audience because of
Donald Trump's appointments.

Speaker 22 (01:05:30):
Well, I'm not a lawyer. But I would suspect that
the answer is the clock is ticking on the midterms
and they need to do what's easier now. And what
they have to do regarding Supreme courts is they actually
have to get a case right, So somebody has to
file a complaint, it gets overturned, and after several appeals,
it eventually gets to the Supreme Court. And I don't

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think we have the time for that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Well, I changing the entire political system, you know, for
political expedience. He seems like an entirely ill advised idea.

Speaker 22 (01:06:04):
Well, I think it's going to get messy, for sure,
but I really want people to what's going to stop
Democrats from doing this? And you know, the next time
that they are already doing it, they've all the Democrats
have been at war with this country since day one.
I have to say, and I started this segment with saying,
I don't disagree with the redistrict redistricting plan because finally

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we're seeing some Republicans fighting back. The war has already
been declared against us. Now it's time to start fighting back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
But giving these Republicans a guaranteed seat for power is
not a recipe for you making them receptive to the
calls of the people.

Speaker 22 (01:06:43):
You don't think it's working here ATODIENA Well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yes exactly, Carl, like like, look at our own state.

Speaker 22 (01:06:50):
Well talking about clocks, I can see that the clock
is running down on this segment, all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Right, Thanks, thanks for another segment for Carl.

Speaker 22 (01:06:56):
Thank you, Ethan.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Stay tuned in ninety three WIBC. We got more on
the way.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Monday Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
So good to me is Saturday Night on the Circle
Night three WYBC, Monday mo.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle, wrapping things
up here on a Saturday evening, And thanks for spending
your time with me over the last few weeks. I've
really enjoyed spending time with the wonderful folks on the
First Day show with Terry Stacy, Denny Smith and producer Kylin.
They've been inviting me on to do a Sunday show
Intel where I bring in elements from my collection and

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share their history. Last Sunday they brought me in and
I got to share a couple of local antiques, which
I thought were pretty exciting.

Speaker 9 (01:07:53):
I'm intrigued to hear what Ethan has.

Speaker 20 (01:07:55):
I'm toojthan what do you have Okay, so we're going
to talk about Michigan Street and New York Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
This is a positive, positive day.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
This is the stupidest idea.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I just passed a delivery truck that had to stop
clean in the middle of the road because they got
that stupid isolated bike lane that's eaten up half of
available parking on New York Street. About that, and so
you got to drive now into the oncoming lane of
traffics to get around these delivery vehicles because of the
way that they have concocted New York and Michigan Street.

(01:08:28):
This is a terrible idea. I hate these snooty anti
car activists and these bike.

Speaker 20 (01:08:33):
And they're winning that they're winning with let me tell
you out of going Washington Street either way, whoever is
responsible and to go, you're making everybody's life a nightmare
one you're doing by getting this bus lane.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Now, one of the great things about Indianapolis used to
be how easy it was to navigate for around.

Speaker 11 (01:08:52):
You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
You could get from one side of the city to
the other side of the city in twenty minutes, and
that is so valuable for a city to have. And
it's it's not that we have lost it, it's that
it is being engineered into the oblivion.

Speaker 9 (01:09:07):
Right, say, I agree, I agree totally. That was one
of my ways home was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
You're always so bashful.

Speaker 20 (01:09:12):
I just don't know why they decided to do it.
Now you're behind buses, it's stop. You're in a one
laid going one way and one lane going the other.
Well that that that's both roads.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
That's the design. That's what they call traffic calming, because
now you've got to stop every five feet. It's very calm.
I'm so sorry I brought it up at.

Speaker 11 (01:09:30):
Once.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I'm sorry, Yes, Terry, I brought it up. Terry had
asked me to bring in some educational related items and
these are to school, Yeah, back to school. These are
a couple of local antiques that I have. This was
a pamphlet that was handed out at Lily Laboratories to
medical students and chemists who were touring their factory. And

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this kind of just you know, gave a little overview
of what was going on. There's lovely pictures in there
of just everything, just truly.

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
Maybe oh twenty five pages or so.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
It's a it's a little longer than that.

Speaker 9 (01:10:04):
Everything has yellowed a little bit. Why did you want that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I love local antiques and this is a relic of
roughly the nineteen forties.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Denny.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
You can take a look at that, and I'm going
to show the audience.

Speaker 15 (01:10:14):
Okay, if you're streaming with us on YouTube ninety three WIBC,
Denny's got it held up to the camera, show on
some of the pages.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
I mean, and you think about the value of Eli
Lilly as a corporation to Indianapolis, how they have shaped
the growth and development of this as an international destination
for manufacturing. I think they are still today the Indiana's
largest corporation. And they made so many important innovations. Like

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one of the things that put them on the map
and really accelerated their growth as a company in the
nineteen twenties was the mass production of insulin. I'm sure
many diabetics are grateful for that. They manufactured sixty percent
of all of the polio vaccines that were being churned
out in nineteen fifty five.

Speaker 20 (01:10:57):
Didn't know that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
You do not know that? Yeah, So, I mean Eli
Lily very important. Another advancement that they made in medical
technology was they were the original people to invent the
gelatine capsule and sugar pills, Oh my gosh. And part
of their legacy of sugarcoating pills. This is my other
antique from Eli Lilly. And they would give this taste

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tester badge and then if you want to show to
the camera there, mister Denny.

Speaker 9 (01:11:22):
That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Yeah, this taste tester or badge was given to the
children of employees who tasted the medicine and then they
got to be a deputy taste tester, you know, like here, kid,
swallow this potentially poisonous costinogenic medication and then we'll give
you this little little badge at the at the end
of it.

Speaker 24 (01:11:39):
Instead of money, did they pay these children or did
they just give them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
A bill that was the payment That was nineteen fifties.

Speaker 24 (01:11:46):
So they end up with six fingers and six toes
and yeah, got really cool.

Speaker 9 (01:11:50):
How old is this do you think?

Speaker 11 (01:11:52):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
This is about seventy five years old at the time
that at the time that this book was made in
the nineteen forties. Eli Lilly is a corporation had already
been around for about sixty five years. They were founded
in eighteen seventy six when Colonel Eli Lilly broke out
on his own venture, and then the very next year
he signed his brother to be the salesman, and then

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he sold the company to his son Josiah, who really
took charge of this in the nineteen thirties. Like of
all the corporations that you think we're doing poorly in
the Great Depression, Eli Lily was doing just fine.

Speaker 24 (01:12:25):
They used to have a bronze plaque on South Meridian,
just north of the Ocean Air restaurant. It's a little
alcove and it says this is the former site of
Eli Lilly Blaunch South Meridian.

Speaker 9 (01:12:35):
It'll be my question, where was the original bill?

Speaker 24 (01:12:37):
South Meridian?

Speaker 9 (01:12:38):
Right there? Okay, just north of where Oceanarian.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yes, I do, just a small little brick building and
right outside of it, said Eli Lilly chemist Ethan.

Speaker 15 (01:12:47):
Do you think that pamphlet will get any value through
the years as it becomes even more of an antique.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Sure it'll pick up some modest value. I mean again
name recognition with Eli Lilly as a brand and as
an important pharmaceutical corporation. But antiques like this, I just
like local antiques, you know, and little little pieces of
local history.

Speaker 9 (01:13:07):
It's our history.

Speaker 20 (01:13:08):
Yeah, exactly, we have some things that are made by
the Indiana Brewery when when there was I mean, these
are very old antiques that are old that have been
turned into lights, you know, Lampleton things, and I just
love local.

Speaker 9 (01:13:20):
It is our history.

Speaker 20 (01:13:21):
The Eli Lilin for those of you that can't watch us,
the Eli Lily taster badge is a blue looks like
a sheriff's badge and it's just it's so And I
had no idea that there was a.

Speaker 24 (01:13:34):
Kid taken that to first grade show, our sixth grade show.

Speaker 9 (01:13:39):
Cool all right, Ethan, really good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
I just love getting to come on the first day
show with Terry, Stacy and friends. They always bring a
smile to my face and I hope they brought one
to yours as well. Thanks for spending another Saturday evening
with me. Unfortunately that's all the time I got, so
I'll leave you with my parting words of wisdom. As always,
wherever you are, whatever you're doing, and whoever you're with,
remember that life. Life is a state of mind. See
you next time.