Saturday Night On The Circle - Full Show - 10/4/25

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to Saturday Night on the Circle on ninety
three WYPC.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Turn it up, Jack, let it roll.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Heck yeah, thanks for listening to Saturday Night on the Circle.
I'm your bespectacled Grimadge and Ethan Hatcher, and that's producer
Jack on the board, pushing the buttons in doing the
things to make the show function. You just heard the
Fox News Top of the Hour update about Indianapolis making
headlines once again for all the wrong reasons. It appears

(00:43):
that X quarterback and color commentator for is It espen
ESPN Mark Sanchez has been stabbed in the early morning
of Saturday, and he's also been arrested in the hospital.
He's currently in stable condition. I'll tell you more details
about that coming up in the next segment, and make
sure to stay tuned for hour to an unmissible segment

(01:08):
with Andrew Ireland is on the way and he's going
to tell us all the details about his proposal to
tax remittances. This is money that's being extracted from our
economy and being sent overseas a reasonable rate of taxation
that could net the state ten million dollars and will
be paid back to you. So we'll tell you more

(01:30):
details about that. Stay tuned to hour two. But of course,
first segment I wanted to cover was the government shut down.
We are entering about close to one hundred hours four
days of the government shut down since October first, when
the Congress was unable to reach an agreement, and Democrats

(01:51):
are attempting to leverage their position as the minority and
shutting down the government all so Republicans will cave and
provide healthcare services for illegal immigrants. Now, Democrats are lying
through their teeth about their desires and designs to provide
this service at taxpayer expense. But this time their chicanery

(02:16):
is not working on the American public, who has cast
a skeptical eye on the lies of Democrats due to
recent actions. And here you'll hear Fox News anchor Lawrence
Jones catching Jean Shahem in an outright lie again about
the Democrats, and they roll the tape because Democrats have.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
A sordid track record when it comes to this issue.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
I haven't heard anybody in my party saying that illegal
immigrants should get access to the health insurance market place.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm so glad you said.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Actually, I have some tape of your Democratic Party members
said this onto the base there. So they've all said,
and let's play the clip.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
A lot of you have been talking tonight about these
government healthcare plans that you've proposed in.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
One form or another.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
This is a show of hands's question and hold them
up for a moment so people can see, raise your
handed government if your government plan would provide coverage for
undocumented immigrants.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And they all raise their hand.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
That's literally a re member of your party, from moderate
to more progressive that have said that in the past.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Boom roasted that was back to the Democrat debate in
the twenty nineteen selection the race for president, and every
single person, every single person on that debate stage, Producer
Jack raised their hand because this is what democrats want.
This is what democrats do, and specifically, the mechanism by

(03:43):
which they're doing it is federal reimbursement for Medicaid expenses
that they're allocating for emergency services in several key states,
including California, including New York, expand that services to include
non citizens. So whereas those states are only spending about
five percent of their Medicaid expenditures on emergency services, those

(04:06):
are going to citizens. But in states like California, you
got more than forty percent of the Medicaid budget that
is being allocated to this, and then the repayment from
the federal government is then that's how the waters are moneyed.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's an accounting trick.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Something that was pointed out by Phil Williams on CNN
schooling Ashley Allison in the process.

Speaker 8 (04:29):
Is this a way that Republicans are just using illegal
immigrants to deflect the conversation? And then the answer home
is yet, it's yet, you kind of us illegal illegal
immigrants are not the reason why our healthcare system is broken.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, it's not deflection at all.

Speaker 9 (04:44):
In fact, I brought receipts. So here's a CMS, a
Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services right here. With their
press release earlier this year, is saying they were having
to increase their oversight on states like California who were
abusing Medicaid and classifying it as an EUSA and emergency system.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It wasn't You've got the.

Speaker 9 (05:00):
Average state spends five percent of its Medicaid roughly on
emergency services. California thirty five to forty percent.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Why would that.

Speaker 9 (05:07):
Be Because California passed a state law that says, we
will fund medicaid for illegals and then know by the
way we'll raise our provider taxes, and then know by
the way we use that as a match of draw
down federal funds. And they're using this whole cavitation process
and the trict no fair.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
You change the outcome by measuring it. That's right.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
They are abusing the reimbursement process of the federal government
to provide illegals with healthcare services at taxpayer expense. This
isn't a conspiracy theory, this isn't a smear. This is
factual information. And you heard that on CNN. CNN appears
to be turning a new leaf or they're attempting to

(05:45):
employ a new strategy to repair their extremely beleaguered reputation
due to the partisan slant of their news for decades now.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
But now you heard, of course.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Phil Williams there explaining the situation, and then also Jake
Tapper of CNN admitted that Medicaid is indeed being used
to provide healthcare services for non citizens. So from two
separate sources there both saying the same thing.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
And one of the huge costs in that is funding
taxpayer funding for illegal aliens. They're wanting the American people
to continue funding insurance for those that should never been
in this country to begin with. Well, so, and I
know Schumer says that that's not.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh no, no, no, I've looked into it. I know what
you're talking about. I just want to explain to our yours.

Speaker 10 (06:34):
So, there is a provision that the Democrats want to
get rid of, and part of it is Medicaid reimbursements,
emergency Medicaid reimbursements to hospitals, some of which does go
to undocumented immigrants using healthcare there to the hospitals. Some
of it is also for people who are in this
country legally but are not citizens, people who are refugees,

(06:55):
or people who have a temporary protected status.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Who said it said that there is.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So tell me, producer Jack.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Was that unclear on the part of Jake Tapper when
he said that Medicaid is being Medicaid reimbursements are being
used to provide healthcare.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's pretty clear, Yeah, pretty clear indeed.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
And yet Democrats have attempted to employ this outright deception,
lie and shift the blame, as they often do. But
their story has evolved in the one hundred hours since
the government has shut down. First they said that illegals
don't qualify for medicaid, don't receive it anywhere. Then they
said that, well, okay, they only qualify for emergencies, but

(07:37):
not full medicaid. And then they admitted, well, in some
states like Illinois, they do qualify for full medic medicaid,
but it's paid for with state funds. And then finally
they're now admitting the federal funds that they're asking for
are in fact going to illegal immigrants. But they're saying
it's only it's only a small fraction of federal funding overall,

(07:58):
so therefore it's justified, and no, dare I say it's
not justified. But it's also not a small fraction of
federal funds either. The Democrats have been spending tens of
millions of dollars in associated special interests, not only in
the United States but also abroad. And this spending a

(08:20):
tax payer expends, pays their party in dividends when they
receive kickbacks from a lot of these special interest groups.
It's a concept of concentrated benefit and dispersed harm. Something
that I'm going to be talking about coming up a
little bit more in the second segment of the show.
But with minimal cost to you, they are able to

(08:41):
on a wide scale rob your coffers and then concentrate
that benefit in the hands of a few special interests
who are then able to mobilize their voter base to
the benefit of Democrats. That's why they are so desperate
not to turn the spigot off. And you'll hear from
Senator John Kennedy exactly all the ways that Democrats have

(09:04):
been abusing your finances as he testified about the government
shutdown and the motivation for Democrats doing so.

Speaker 11 (09:12):
Basically, President Trumps just said, we want you to take
some stuff out of the budget that we think is waste,
and we did, and that upset the commerce farm. She's
entitled to be upset.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
She wants to, but that really.

Speaker 11 (09:21):
Upset the socialist wing of the party. And so we
took out and here's what they want us to put
back here. We found that on the President Biden they
were spending three million dollars for circumcisions and vasectomies in Zambia.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
We took that out.

Speaker 11 (09:36):
The congresswoman says, we're going to shut down government.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Till you put that back in.

Speaker 11 (09:39):
We found five hundred thousand dollars of American taxpayer money
for electric buses in Rowan. We found three point six
million dollars for pastry cooking classes and dance focus groups
for male prostitutes in Haiti.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Did you know I'm making this up?

Speaker 11 (09:55):
It was in the budget on the President Biden.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
We took it out.

Speaker 11 (09:59):
Congress Woman Ca Sho Corkeez in the socialist wing the
Moon wing of the Democratic Party says we're going to
shut down governing till you put it back in. I'll
just read you a few more that we took out.
They are demanding we put back in. Six million dollars
for media organizations for the Palestenians, eight hundred and thirty
three thousand dollars for transgender people in the Paul, three

(10:19):
hundred thousand dollars for a pride parade in Osuku, eight
hundred and eighty two thousand dollars for social media and
mentorship in Serbia. Four point two million dollars we took
it out for congresswoman and the socialist wing of their
party says we've got to put that back in for
the open go four point two million dollars for lesbian
gay bisexual, transgender, queer and intersex people in the Western

(10:43):
Balkans and Yugone. I could spend the rest of the
afternoon here. We took all that out.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
Hey, can you give me some money?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
No, fascist, I could spend all day listening to Senator
Kennedy clips. He is hilarious, but he's talking about a
very serious issue, one that is being shouldered at your expense.
So yeah, Democrats once again being dishonest. But fortunately the
tides of public opinion have shifted and their chicanery is

(11:13):
not working as well as it did in the past.
Stay tuned for more Saturday Night on the Circle. We'll
give you a little bit more details about this stabbing
of ESPN commentator Mark Sanchez, and also some progress being
made on the homeless encampment behind the Walmart on East
Washington Street. Hear more about it coming up next on

(11:33):
ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Rain ups falling on my head.

Speaker 12 (11:41):
And just like the guy who's been up too big
for his bed, nothing.

Speaker 13 (11:47):
Seems to fit.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
This is Saturday Night on the Circle ninety three wybcall in,
so just do me.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I'm your host, Ethan Hatcher and that's producer Jack on
the board. I think last segment I said it was
the s ESPN commentator. I'm so wrong, Producer Jack. See,
this is why I don't follow sports. I'm not interested
in sports. I don't know who these people are. And
were it not for the fact that this is bringing
the headlines to Indianapolis in all the wrongs way, I
wouldn't even care. Apparently, I'm sorry. He is a forts

(12:23):
Fox Sports broadcaster and he was.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
He's being employed by them, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Fox announced earlier this afternoon that Sanchez was in stable condition.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
At the local hospital.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
However, IMPD has announced that he's been arrested at the
hospital for battery with injury, unlawful entry of a motor vehicle,
and public intoxication for his role in the altercation. Now
we don't know all the details yet. Details are still emerging.
I have heard reports that mister Sanchez was not cooperative

(12:56):
with officers in the hospital. Now maybe he will will
be after he stabilized again. You know, the reports are
still developing here.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
But the other person who.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Was involved in this altercation appears to be pointing the
finger of blame at mister Sanchez. Himself for instigating it,
and with charges like public battery or pat battery with
injury and unlawful entry into a motor vehicle. I am
suspecting that that is the possibility that that's where the
finger of blame may in fact lie. Again, we don't know.

(13:28):
Information still developing here, but just bringing all headlines all
the wrong ways to Indianapolis, you know, after we had
very successful, several very successful events here in the city,
including hosting the NBA Finals, even though the Pacers ultimately
didn't win, it was great press for Indianapolis, and just

(13:50):
to see our city drug through the mud in headlines
once again is extremely disappointing to me. Of course, violence
not the only issue that we face here in the
city of india Annapolis. There is now a crisis of homelessness,
particularly homeless encampments, and I shouldn't even say homelessness because
that's less of the issue and more of the issue
is criminal vagrant sy. That's that's what's going on here,

(14:13):
because not all of these individuals lack the ability to
have housing for themselves. Some of them are just making
a decision not to participate in civil society. It's not
always that they are that they have been forced into
the streets against their will, and they have erected several

(14:34):
encampments around the city. You already heard of Fountain Square
skid row over there on Leonard Street and what is it,
Virginia Avenue over on the southeast side of the city.
That encampment has been officially closed according to the local
office here, but there has been have been several other

(14:56):
encampments that have been erected around the city since that time,
including one on South Pleasant Run Parkway and Keystone Avenue.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And then there's also one that.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Is now being cleaned up behind the Walmart on East
Washington Street. And this was pointed out a couple weeks
ago by Michael Parr Hart city council member, who noted
the problems after local residents had complained about the danger
and then also safety hazards, because this is a significant
in camp with a lot of trash in the woods

(15:29):
behind Walmart that is now being cleaned up or at
least in the process.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
This reported by WRTV.

Speaker 14 (15:36):
Wrtv's East Side community reporter Adam Schums Here out here
on East Washington Street behind the Walmart. We're following up
on a story that we first told you about last
week from high above.

Speaker 15 (15:49):
This is what the homeless encampment looks like. On Thursday afternoon,
the city tells me that there are a few individuals
still camping in the area and that OPHS is coordinating
with the vendors and DPW to clean up the debris
in the area. Just a week ago, we're out here
after hearing about safety concerns in the area from city,
County Councilor Michael Paul Hart and neighbors.

Speaker 16 (16:11):
This is going to take a serious operation, whether it's
through even a partnership with the state like.

Speaker 17 (16:15):
The environmental group, certainly the city and DPW, we are.

Speaker 18 (16:20):
Actively working on getting out the cleaning in that area.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
Get time with it, Yeah, get over it.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I would be fascinated to hear a more detailed explanation
of why it seems there was much quicker action to
at least deal with the trash of this encampment than
there was on the Leonard Street Fountain Square skid row,
because it took them. It took them a couple of
months after residents complaints had finally reached a fever pitch

(16:51):
to clean up the encampment. Now, according to the Office
of Public Health and Safety OPHS. They're the entity in
the city that handles the homeless encampments and attempts to
coordinate resources and connect those who are willing with an
opportunity to find safe and stable housing. But many are not.
And as of this time, they say that the encampment

(17:14):
is still open. They are unwilling to close the encampment. However,
since so much attention has been drawn, it seems like
many of the residents, shall we say the campers, are
leaving of their own accord. And what's happening here is
the solution. We're not actually solving any problems. We're playing
musical chairs with the homeless encampment because as soon as

(17:35):
you close one of these, they just move to a
different area of the city. And it's because they understand
that there is this tolerance by the hog Set administration
and a lack of will to enforce basic order, so
they know they'll get away with it, and that's why
you continue to see these problems spring up. Another issue

(17:56):
in the state is the way particularly the Secretary of
State is utilizing travel funds. Indiana state officials spent about
ninety seven thousand dollars in travel expenses total for the
twenty twenty five fiscal year. However, about a third of
that was by Secretary of State Diego morales By himself,
who accounted more than thirty three thousand dollars in travel expenses,

(18:20):
including one very expensive trip for four two hundred and
forty one dollars. You could have a pretty good time
on four grand, couldn't you, Producer Jack, Yeah, definitely, I'd
like to take a nice European vacation for that, which
presumably exactly what he did, because he's been coworting about
in places like Toronto, he's been to Hungry, He's been,
of course very famously, to India, and maybe in a

(18:42):
few other locations that we haven't been made aware of yet.
And nearly I think a quarter to about a third
of his office or his total funds were just in
driving gas expenditures.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
You have to be.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Doing a crazy amount of driving around the state, Producer
Jack got more than ten thousand dollars in gas bills alone.
But you know, that's the secretary of state who is
seems to be enjoying all the cushy benefits of elected
office at your expense.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
And this is one of those issues. This is what
I said.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I was going to talk about concentrated benefit and dispersed harm,
because it seems like no matter how much this radio
station draws attention to the many antics of Secretary of
State Diego Morales, there's a broad unwillingness on the part
of state Republicans to hold him to any level of accountability,
and it's hard to generate the outrage necessary to do

(19:40):
so when the expense comes in at like a fraction
of a cent per person. They're six point nine, i
think now million residents in the state of Indiana according
to the last census, and if you divide the thirty
three thousand dollars that the Secretary of State spent over
those six point nine million individuals, that's like a fraction
of a cent per person. It's hard to articulate and

(20:04):
get people to understand how they are being ripped off
when it is at the fractional level. But they are
able to disperse the harm and then concentrate the benefit
for themselves. It's common, unfortunately, all too common in the
political arena. I'm not sure if you've heard producer Zeck,

(20:24):
but Greta Thunberg she had joined a flotilla of more
than five hundred malcontents who were attempting to breach the
Israeli blockade of Gaza Over in the region of Palestine,
and she was apprehended, and it seems that her handlers
have now released a pre recorded video of her begging

(20:45):
for help from her native country.

Speaker 19 (20:49):
My name is Givin Chion. I'm a citizen of Sweden.
If you are watching this video, I have been abducted
and taken against my will by Israeli courses. Our humanitarian
mission was non violent, I think by international law. Please
tell my government to demand my and the other's immediate release.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
How about now, you're crazy Dutch bastard. You don't get
to get the benefit of being bailed out by your
country when you put yourself in harm's way. She knew
what she was doing, and I wouldn't be expecting Sweden
to step in and save her.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
This is a narcissist. This is a very petulant individual.
And fundamentally, not much has changed about Greta since she
was yet but a young outrage purveyor when she first
erupted on the scene, and at the time producer Jack
I had actually cut together a parody song of Greta Thunberg.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Have we listened to that together?

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Maybe once before.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Maybe once.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
It's been a while, though, and I thought now was
as good a time as any for a re release.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
So enjoy. I want the world.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Home to us young people for hope.

Speaker 20 (22:02):
How dare you?

Speaker 7 (22:03):
I want the whole world?

Speaker 19 (22:06):
You have stolen my dreams in my childhood with your
empty words.

Speaker 7 (22:11):
I want to lock it all up in my pocket?
Is my bar chocolates.

Speaker 19 (22:15):
All you can talk about is the money and fairy
tales of eternal economic growth?

Speaker 7 (22:21):
How dare you give it.

Speaker 15 (22:22):
To me now?

Speaker 19 (22:25):
A fifty percent risk is simply not acceptable to us.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
I want today, I want tomorrow.

Speaker 18 (22:34):
You are still not mature enough to tell it like
it is.

Speaker 13 (22:38):
You are failing us.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
Don't care how I want it now.

Speaker 19 (22:43):
If you choose to fail us, I say we will
never forgive you.

Speaker 13 (22:48):
Don't care how I want it.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
She was a bad egg.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Not a lot's changed with Greta Thunberg, still expecting others
to bail her out for her own mistakes. Thanks for
listening to ninety three WIBC. There's one more SoundBite that
I wanted to play that was hilarious to me. This
is Joy Read appearing on a podcast, and she's so
out of touch with the average person. She is using

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republicans alleged representation of their desire for low taxes as
a way to scare you as something that you're supposed
to be repulsed by. I'm not sure here was joy
Read in her own words.

Speaker 21 (23:38):
If you go back before the twentieth century, there were
no income taxes, there were no regulations on business. You
could earn as much money as you want, leave one
hundred percent of it to your children with no taxes.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
That's the world they want back.

Speaker 21 (23:50):
And to get it back, they need society to change,
They need people to be less modern.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children
who are wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Is that supposed to be something we're afraid of their?
Joy Reid, that we want no income taxes and no
inheritance taxes and we want to return to that. Now,
Producer Jack, you and I know that Republicans are certainly
not the party of low taxation that they represent themselves
to be. If anything, I say, please be the Republican
that Joy Reid is attempting to fear monger that you are,

(24:23):
because certainly we would like those policies if they were
actually implemented. Thanks for listening to ninety three WIBC. Don't
miss a moment coming up next, the Sound Dump. Stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
This is Saturday Night on the Circle on ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to put on your handy
Dandy has Matt suit once again. As we wade through
another week in news. You'll hear CNN confront Chuck Schumer
with evidence of his his own leftist hypocrisy, using his
own words against him. You also hear a female online
influencer laments the inherent unfairness of the American divorce process

(25:10):
and British police being weaponized against a Jewish citizen, all
in the name of tolerance, ironically, and you'll hear these
stories and more for this week's edition of the Sound Dump.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'd thank you for.

Speaker 13 (25:26):
Its job.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
It's the Saturday Night Sound Dump on three WYPC.

Speaker 22 (25:32):
Thank you so.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
You decide so now you are line.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Oh my god, its.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Welcome back to ninety three WIBC. This is Saturday Night
on the Circle and I'm Ethan Hatcher. You are a
spectacled curmudgeon. And that's producer Jack on the board, pushing
the buttons in doing the things to make the show function,
Producer Jack.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Since these shut down debacle began.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
On October first, one of the premiere memes that's emerged,
I'm not sure if you've seen it is Hakeim Jeffries,
the leader for Democrats in the Congress. Well Jdvans put
him in a sombrero, gave him a little sombrero on
a mustache, since that's that they want to fund illegal immigrants.
And this has gotten a lot of attention NESA naturally,

(26:22):
and Democrats are outraged. They're not sure exactly how to
respond to it. They posted a really cringe video of
cats trying to explain the shutdown process. It was really dumb,
really lame, not at all catchy, and the GOP just
made fun of it by putting the cats in sombrero's
c Span was discussing the sombrero meme, and they also
don't seem to understand this is Joe. The American people

(26:46):
are making fun of you because you've lost the plot.

Speaker 18 (26:49):
What you make of Donald Trump's truth social posts? There
it is on his true social posts. A new one
featuring Hakeem Jefferies from last night went up as well.

Speaker 22 (27:00):
Well.

Speaker 23 (27:00):
I called a King Jefferys last night and its tank
on lefting a voicemail, and I wanted to know where
he got the sumburro from because I wanted to buy
one too, because I thought he looked good at it.
And I didn't know he could grow a mustache that quickly,
but I thought he looked real good in that musta.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Do you think the you went it on TV?

Speaker 15 (27:22):
Right now?

Speaker 23 (27:24):
I asked the King Jefferies, where did you get that hat?
Because I want to go buy one? Please give me
a call back. But see that's the problem.

Speaker 18 (27:31):
Do you think the videos like that help in this
process here in the negotiations, help in the process.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
No, it's just a joke.

Speaker 23 (27:38):
See, nobody can take a joke no more. This country
is so evil in so many ways that nobody could
take a joke anymore. You do not think that as funny.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I thought this was America?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Is this America? I thought this was America?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
And naturally that was a Florida man. That was That
was a caller from Flora, as you would expect. And yeah,
he's right, He's absolutely right. It's hilarious. And Democrats simply
don't understand, and that's part of the reason why they
continue to lose the popular conversation. CNN attempted to discuss
the shutdown with Chuck Schumer, but at first they were

(28:16):
having some audio problems, with which the host John Berman
attributed naturally to the government shutdown itself.

Speaker 12 (28:23):
Every Republican who's gone on TV the last twelve hours
or so has called this the Schumer shutdown. What do
you say about that name?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Center of Schumer. Can you hear me? I can't hear
center of Schumer. Can you hear me?

Speaker 12 (28:45):
I don't think Senator Schumer can hear me right now?
Maybe the government shutdown included audio on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, that's an uncomfortable, uncomfortable situation. Sometimes technical difficulties happen,
even at the highest level, which CNN is far from.
But eventually they were able to connect with old Chucky
Schumer of the Senate, and I was surprised that once
again CNN appears to be turning some out of a
new leaf in probably a misguided attempt to repair their

(29:14):
beleaguered and tarnished reputation for partisan news coverage. But John
Berman actually confronted Chuck Schumer with his own hypocrisy and
using his own words against him about shutdowns in the past.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
This was Chef's kiss perfect.

Speaker 12 (29:32):
One of the things that Republicans are also doing, and
they're doing in the White House. Press be firm with
a running sound at Democrats talking about shutdowns in the past,
including sound of you, this is the type of thing
you've said about shutdowns in the past.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let's listen.

Speaker 24 (29:43):
What if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm going
to shut the government down. I'm going to not pay
our bills unless I get my weight. It's a politics
of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis, shutting down government over
a policy difference to self defeating. We can never old
American workers hostage again. While the CR bill is very bad,

(30:05):
the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America that
are much much worse. Therefore, I will vote to keep
the government open and not shut it down.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Nobody want to notice this. I feel like I'm taking crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Pil Democrats have been caught with her pants down on
this issue, and I am here for it. Thanks for
listening to ninety three WIBC. This is Saturday Night on
the Circle. This was a conversation that I caught wind
of a few weeks ago. Actually SSS Sniper Wolf. She's
an online streamer, not somebody that I necessarily follow, but

(30:44):
I think this is interesting because she's recently fallen on
hard times following a divorce from her husband, and in
this situation, because she is the primary income earner earner
of the family, she's experiencing firsthand how the divorce process
is an inherently unfair procedure here in the United States.
But usually it's men who received the short end of

(31:07):
the stick, but not so in this case.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
And she's not too happy happened to you, missus sausage.
I know what happened.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
I know, but that's what God. So, yeah, why because.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
He owns all my money, so he always half that
he has taken half of everything I own, and he
still wants half of.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Everything, half of everything everything, And.

Speaker 14 (31:30):
He wants all my social media accounts, and he wants
my new channel I just made.

Speaker 22 (31:36):
And how long has it been on?

Speaker 7 (31:37):
Over three years?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
And what he did is gonna be over.

Speaker 17 (31:40):
Hopefully next year.

Speaker 11 (31:43):
It was a long time.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
It's like it's it's because we got like legally married
to my parents.

Speaker 24 (31:47):
Like, ah, let me play a sad song for you
in the World's Smallest violin.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I know, this really is the world's smallest violin.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
See yes, see, it gets so messy when you involve
the state in your relationships, and yeah, it can be
totally weaponized against you. And this is a bit of
an unusual situation, but one many men in the United
States are all too familiar with now. As I understand it,
her husband was a fairly integral process in helping build

(32:19):
those social media accounts and helping build and develop her channel.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
This was a joint production, so yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Know, he's expecting to receive some portion of the income
from his participation in that. And yeah, yeah, divorce is
a messy process, something that I don't think she ever anticipated.
This was a crazy clip I caught a few weeks
ago from British police who were being weaponized against a
Jewish citizen at a Palestinian protest. And this is all

(32:50):
you see, producer Jack. It's done in the name of
tolerance because this Jewish man, well, he was outraging those
Palestinians by sheer virtue of his Jewishness.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
This is really nuts and really gross.

Speaker 22 (33:03):
Your part to it.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I protest Indian box.

Speaker 17 (33:07):
Sorry, I'm not accusingly.

Speaker 12 (33:08):
About anything, but I'm worried about the reactions.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Don't or if you choose to, because you up.

Speaker 11 (33:25):
Because answer to.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Your afternoon officer. Tell you good chap. I'm enjoying a
cup of tea on this warm Sutursday. I see world
War else. Hold on a minute, do you Elizabeth's flame?
Oh no, you're not using a sorcer. I'm sorry, I
don't have no.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Following this altercation, I believe it was in the city
of London over there in the United Kingdom, on Yam Kapoor,
the most holy day in the Jewish holy calendar, there
was an attack on a synagogue from a deranged, deranged
attacker who drove straight into the synagogue, ran a few people, over,
stabbed a few people. I mean, it was a bloody,

(34:15):
cruesome attack. And you heard the police being weaponized against
the Jewish Jewish citizen, all in the name of tolerance.
That's that's how tolerance can be weaponized against you. And
that's truly suicidal empathy distilled in its finest form, something
that was also echoed by I think it was Seattle
mayor Bruce Harrell. This is a really nuts way to

(34:38):
view the world. But this is the viewpoint that many
leftists share.

Speaker 20 (34:42):
The criminal system has had a disparate impact on black
and brown communities.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Let me lead with that.

Speaker 20 (34:48):
So when this person's committing six or seven crimes, I
didn't know his or her story. Ooh, maybe they were
abused as a child, maybe they're hungry. So my remedy
is to find their life story to see how we
can help.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
First, I have no desire to put them in jail.

Speaker 10 (35:07):
No offense, but it sounds like that's sound com he
gobbledy gook.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
If you're breaking in my house, if you're getting arrested
seven or eight times, I don't care if you were
abused as a child, and I don't want to hear
your story. I want you prosecuted to the fullest extent
of the law. But it's thinking like that that gets
us situations like Courtney Boose here locally arrested more than
ninety nine times and let back out again and again

(35:34):
until he eventually committed or is accused of committing an
attempted murder on elder Lisa Gentlemen here in the city
of Indianapolis. Stay tuned for more Saturday Night on the
Circle coming up next on ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
I'm in enge on long.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
You're listening to Saturday Night on the Circle ninety three WYVC.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Thanks for listening to Saturday Night on the Circle and
the final segment, I wanted to discuss very upset nephew
to Colonel Sanders, who has released online the Secret Ingredients,
the Secret eleven herbs and spices. This is very exciting stuff,
producer Jack. According to him, the eleven herbs and spices

(36:31):
are one tablespoon one and a half tablespoons, I should
say of sage, two and a half tablespoons of cloves,
three and a quarter tablespoons of nutmeg, four and a
quarter and a half state tablespoons of cinnamon, five red
pepper and cayenne, two pinches six corianders, a half tablespoon

(36:53):
I'm sorry, ginger, a quarter tablespoon garlic powder, one tablespoon
white pepper, one tablespoon black pepper, one and a half
tablespoons carbonum, carbonum, cardamum.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
How do you say that anyway?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
One tablespoon that's the secret ingredient. And then of course
you add salt and msg to the cake flour and
three tablespoons of salt and three cups of flour. So
there it is. Those are the secret ingredients eleven herbs
and spices. You can also find that posted to Twitter.
He posted it on his own account, Producer Jack. Have

(37:26):
you ever tried cooking fried chicken for yourself?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
It's hard?

Speaker 7 (37:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, it sounds like it took a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, well, I mean to get the balance of the
herbs right. And I've never done anything as complex as this,
but I've tried cooking fried chicken a few times and
I've only been able to do it successfully, like maybe
a handful of times, you know, where it turned out.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Really really good.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
But yeah, he's really upset with how KFC has been
representing his uncle as a sexy Southern man. He doesn't
like it, so he's blown the lid off the eleven
secret herbs and vices. Try it out for yourself sometime
and stay tuned for hour two of Saturday Night on
the Circle Andrew Ireland will be joining us.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
If you're listening to Saturday Night on This Circle on
nightety three WYPC.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Thanks for joining me tonight, ladies and gentlemen, This is
Saturday Night on the circle. I'm your host Ethan Hatcher,
and producer Jack is on the board. Stay tuned because
coming up next the moment you've all been waiting for,
a friend of the show, Andrew Ireland will be joining
us to explain his plans to tax remittances more in detail.
So stay tuned for that. But first, I wanted to

(38:56):
talk about Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, formerly the Secretary
of Defense. But I like the renaming because, after all,
war is the purpose of the military. They are not
building things, they are destroying things. More often than not,
they are unleashing the full force and might of the
bravest Americans on our adversaries abroad. And Pete Hegseth, in

(39:21):
order to help achieve that goal, is reinstituting some basic
standards in the military, especially fitness standards for not only
the men serving in the army itself, but also for
the admirals, for the generals, for the upper echelon, because
he's tired of seeing fat generals walking around the Pentagon.

Speaker 25 (39:42):
If the Secretary of War can do regular hard pt,
so can every member of our joint force. Frankly, it's
tiring to look out at combat formations or really any
formation and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable to
see generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
And leading commands around the country in the world. It's
a bad look. It is bad and it's not who
we are.

Speaker 25 (40:09):
So whether you're an airborne ranger or a chairborn ranger,
a brand new private or a four star general, you
need to meet the height and weight standards and pass
for PT test.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
And as the Chairman said, yes there is no PT test, but.

Speaker 25 (40:23):
Today, at my direction, every member of the Joint Force,
at every rank is required to take a PT test
twice a year.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
He's out of line, but he's right. I mean, he's
absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
It's part of the discipline, it's part of the stature
of the military. One thing he's also brought back is
the requirement for all service members to shave the beards.
That has been a standard that was relaxed in recent years.
No more, and this is perfectly in line. Producer Jack
I mentioned a number of times I grew up as
a Jehovah's witness, and until recently, Jehovah's witnesses were also

(40:58):
required to share their beards. And the reason why is
the same reason why they do it in the military,
Producer Jack, is because it makes it real easy to
spot the a hole, to spot the person in the
troop that won't abide by the.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Rules, won't follow the rules once to be a rebel.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
And you know, if you got a line of troops
and they all got their shoes polished and their uniforms
neatly taken care of and presented, if you got the
one guy that's got stubble in his beard, it will
makes it real easy to target him and then instill
the necessary qualities of discipline, which is paramount in the military.
But of course this is upsetting two members on the left,

(41:38):
Jimmy Kimmel managing to mock this requirement and turn it
into a critique of Donald Trump.

Speaker 26 (41:44):
Donald Trump actually said our new military will bring back
new focus on fitness. I love the idea that Trump
is lecturing these guys on fitness. I mean, if that
isn't the fondue pot calling the kettle fat, I don't
know what it is. Listen up, generals, I want to

(42:06):
make some very clear. The Pillsbury dope President wants you
to do pilates.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
The only push ups.

Speaker 26 (42:12):
Donald Trump does are from the side of an ice
cream Trump, if you get so fat you start breaking escalators,
you are unfit to serve in the dartry.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
You're not just wrong, you're stupid. Now wait just a
minute and rougli just like your mom.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Okay, So, first of all, President Trump is almost eighty
years old. Yes, I doubt he has the physical fitness
or acumen of an enlisted service member.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
What kind of criticism is this?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
You know?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I bet President Trump also expects his doctors to be
licensed medical professionals, even though he also is not a
licensed medical professional, he does expect a degree of professionalism
in that and similar to the military. So Jimmy Kimmel
once again being ridiculous and proving he is a partisan apparatic,
not a comedian. Stay two uned. Coming up next, Andrew

(43:01):
Ireland joins the show. Don't miss it.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
This is Saturday Night on the Circle. Oh Night, he
three WYBC.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
This is the one and only Saturday Night on the Circle.
And I'm your Bohemian condre Ethan Hatcher. The podcasts are
uploaded to WIBC dot com and my personal podcasting page.
Saturday Night on the Circle dot fireside dot FM and
make sure to hop in the YouTube chat where we're
streaming live from seven to nine every Saturday night. Hoosiers
are currently being shortchanged as hundreds of millions of dollars

(43:45):
are being extracted from the economy each year and sent
overseas to enrich the economies of foreign countries in the
form of remittances. Federal law currently allows for states to
tax this economic larceny, but as yet only one state
does so. However, one local legislator has recently proposed Indiana
should recover some of this economic extraction, a move that
could net the state more than ten million dollars annually.

(44:07):
Here to explain this idea in detail is one of
the few true conservative voices in the Indiana legislature. The
extremely based Andrew Ireland joins the show. Thanks for coming
here on a Saturday, my friend.

Speaker 16 (44:17):
Good evening, Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
All right, So, I saw you post this on the
Twitter machine they call it x but it'll always be
Twitter to me that you wanted to tax remittances by
to the tune of two percent, and these are like, well,
why don't you explain what remittences are exactly?

Speaker 16 (44:34):
Yeah, So I use the word extraction.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I think that's right.

Speaker 16 (44:36):
A remittance is effectively you've got typically a non citizen,
So somebody that's here in this country illegally or illegally,
and they're sending money back home or to another foreign country.
Often these are migrant workers illegal aliens included, that are
literally taking money from their job. They're making it here
and then they're sending it back to Mexico or elsewhere.
And one of the things that a lot of credit

(44:58):
I think to President Trump honestly is and the one
big beautiful BILLI this is some language, and there actually
where the federal government's go to start doing this too.
But my idea was, let's take this, you know, and
one tax. It would make the second state in the
Union to do it. I think Oklahoma's the first. Yes,
But then not just to have a new tax, because listen,
like the last thing I think is the government needs
more money, but I'd like to use it than as

(45:18):
an offset for a gas taxes. So every single penny
that we tax out of these dollars that are going overseas,
I want to use that as an offset for the
gas tax.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
For every hooshure brilliant because you're specifically benefiting citizens with
this economic extraction, which is the point here, and I
believe as of twenty twenty two, because we don't have
more recent estimates, upwards of eighty two billion dollars a
year was being sent in the form of remittanses out
of the United States economy. The Indiana portion of that

(45:47):
is something to the tune of like six hundred and
eighty million dollars.

Speaker 16 (45:50):
I've seen projections that even higher. I mean, we could
be upwards of three billion.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Well, even the WEF actually has higher economic production projections.
Eighty two billion is just the conservative estimate. So you're
absolutely right. It could be nearly a billion dollars that
is being taken out of the Hoosier economy. And so
you could be seeing anywhere from like fourteen to I
guess maybe as much as sixteen million dollars a year
just by taxing this at a two percent rate. What
I want to know is how do you plan to

(46:16):
police this? Like, how are you actually monitoring the monetary
transactions that are taking place within the border of Indiana
and then being sent overseas.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
How would that be collected?

Speaker 16 (46:26):
So the great thing is because of the federal piece
that's in place now. The compliance is already there.

Speaker 22 (46:31):
You know.

Speaker 16 (46:32):
That's the one nice thing of the federal government stepping
into doing this. It really gives the states the framework
that whether you're going through you know, kind of your
traditional brick and mortar bank, or you're doing just some
sort of online transaction you're going to send it, you know,
with Apple pay, Venmo, whatever, all of these companies now
have to comply with that same framework from the federal side.
So it's really not a leap then to say that, oh,
if you're geographically within Indiana, same sort of you know circumstance.

(46:54):
And I think we'd like to try to mirror that
as much as we can to make sure that we're
capturing that.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Can we glean anything from Oklahoma because, like you mentioned, currently,
they're the only state that is taxing this these remittances,
and they did it I think as early as two
thousand and nine, so they were really ahead of the
curve with this one. I assume that their program has
been implemented successfully. They've also been getting upwards of ten
million dollars annually as a result of this taxation. Can

(47:18):
we learn anything from them?

Speaker 16 (47:20):
Well, I think it shows that it is something that
you certainly could do, and again they certainly haven't taken
it off the books in that fifteen year period, So
I think it tells you that it is an effective tool.
Now we can kind of negotiate about what that percentage is.
It's a lot of folks said, oh, we got to
make that you know, right, right right, and just me
I hear you there.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Then the problem with that is that you would create
a black market.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
And the idea is you need to strike a balance
because if it is too prohibitive, just like the war
on drugs, you're not necessarily eliminating the drugs, you're just
creating a larger black market. The same thing that we
saw like during the prohibition era. The alcohol didn't go away,
you just had a black market. So, you know, want
we want to keep these financial transactions above board and
capture as much of that as possible, I think is
the idea.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's right.

Speaker 16 (48:01):
Yeah, you know a certain point that it makes sense
to drive to Ohio or Illinois to think over there
if you could have send that money overseas. But really
at the end of the day, the goal is to
you know, go and fund our roads and make Mexico
pay for it.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
How make a good on a Trump promise that didn't
necessarily come true in the first term, Make Mexico pay
for it. But what I want to know is how
would you distinguish between illegal citizens that are making these
monetary transactions and legal citizens that are making these monetary transactions.
Because I'm totally down, like for people who are already
here illegally and maybe working an illegal job that is

(48:36):
taking labor away from the Hoosia economy and sending that
moment money overseas, I'm fine with taxing that, but I
would be against you know, say, your parents or your grandparents,
you're in trouble because you're on a European vacation and
oh no, I didn't think that I needed as much
money as I do. But please, you know, parents or
grandparents wire me money overseas. I would not be for

(48:57):
taxing that money being sent to a legal citizen who's
simply traveling abroad.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
So how would you distinguish between these things?

Speaker 16 (49:03):
So I actually wouldn't include American citizens at all one
and I also would include commercial transactions. So really this
is focused on either individuals that are here legally, but
they're migrant workers who've got.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
H one B for example.

Speaker 16 (49:14):
You know the kind of that pool of individuals that
are sending money back home or wherever. Or you've got
people that are here illegally that shouldn't be here in
the first place, but if they are, we're sugar to
at least tax that as well when they're sending that
money back home. So I would pull American citizens entirely
out of that pool, because again, the last thing I
want to do is put more tax incidents on the
average hoosier. The whole goal here is to take it
off of it for the people that I think already

(49:34):
are often praying on our system.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I think it's a fantastic idea.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
You've been on a roll with the good ideas lately,
and you can make it up to me because, of course,
although you support redistricting, which I am diametrically opposed to,
if the Indiana legislator should call a special session, I'll
be I'll be looking for this remittance proposal to warm
its way in there, because it's open doors as I
understand it. If the special session is called, it doesn't
just pertain to one issue. So you know, if the

(50:00):
opportunity arises, you can you can make it up for
up to me by by making this proposal official.

Speaker 16 (50:05):
Hey, no, I you know typically special sessions well technically
can file anything. It's usually focused on one or two bills.
But I will say I think it's a good idea
on weather.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
But you can get the foot in the door and
then get the language down for the next time the
session is open. Just in case, you know that's right,
just say that's right. But remittances aren't the only issue
that Hoosiers are dealing with.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Locally here in the city of Indianapolis, you have so
called Prosecutor Ryan. I call him Friend of the miscreant
Mirrors because he is nothing if not a friend of
the miscreant and the hooligan.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
And you have a great idea. I love it.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
It is your shoet sharing for the spooky season, scary
stories from our own city criminals who are caught up
in this rotating door of the criminal justice system. Tell
us what this is all about, because I love this idea.

Speaker 16 (50:51):
Well, you call him the friend of the miscreant. I
call him the King of sweetheart deals. Yeah, and that
is the truth is. You know, every day every other day.
Right now, My plan is to some of these just
absolutely insane stories of what's happening in our criminal justice system.
Because you've got a prosecutor who clearly, I mean, I
think he thinks he's a public defender, that his job
is to keep these people out of jail, not to
put them in. And then on the other end, you've

(51:12):
got judges that just rubber stamp all of this right now.
And I mean we're not talking about here's this one
off case. We've got guy who've been arrested ninety nine times,
posted just the other day, that went through it forty
six times, twenty nine times, a serial flash who's been
arrested forty nine times in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I mean, these kind.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Of things in less than ten years, as I understand,
because like that started since he was seventeen or eighteen.

Speaker 16 (51:33):
Yeah, twenty seven year old forty nine times. I mean,
I just cannot imagine how you go to sleep at
night as a judge or a prosecutor here in Marion
County and you let this continue to happen.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Well, and you're talking about the guy that was arrested
more than ninety nine times, and he's putting us in
the news for all the wrong reasons, because we're getting
retweeted and shared because of what a mockery to justice
that this is. That somebody could be shuffled in and
out of being arrested more than ninety nine times before
it finally escalates into a gruesome attack against an elderly
gentleman that, as I understand it, might have even been

(52:06):
to the city of Indianapolis as part of a funeral
for another murder victim. And then you're here and you're
getting stabbed. This is tragic levels of it's almost parody,
darkly comic parody.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 16 (52:18):
And you said, were getting national attention. I think Stephen
Miller from the White House, and he said something very simple,
but it's so very true, is that we don't have
to live this way. I mean, it doesn't have to
be like this. It wasn't always like this. In fact,
the guy before Ryan Meure is the current prosecutor, was
also a Democratic named with Terry Curry.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah, now Terry, he was fine, he was fine. I mean,
I say it.

Speaker 16 (52:39):
You know, I don't vote for Democrats, but who you know,
if I had the choice between those two. I mean,
it's like night and day. It's not even a party thing.
It's just you have these absolute nut left wing prosecutors though,
that are their help it on effectively undermining our justice system.
And that's what's going on right now here in our
capital city in a red.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
State, because I ordinarily you shouldn't be able to tell
the political persuasion of a prosecut The thing about the
law is, and about the American tradition of the justice
system is that justice should be blind. It should be
absolutely blind, regardless of your race, religion, creed, sex, whatever
whatever factor that goes in there.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
But unfortunately Ryan.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Mears has adopted this dei philosophy where some people should
be treated with kid gloves while others receive the full
force of the law. And you can't run a civil
society that way, you fundamentally can.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Thanks for coming in on a Saturday, my friend. I
really appreciate you coming in and sharing to your thoughts.
Before we go, though, I do want to touch on
what can we do here locally to kind of sidestep
the prosecutor at this point, because you have, of course
Donald Trump, he's sending in the National Guard to places
like Memphis, two places like Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
As I understand it. I mean, why wouldn't, say Governor
Brawn be able to do the same thing.

Speaker 16 (53:50):
Well, and Governor Braun did a little bit about this
this summer, so they brought state police down to downtown
Indianapolois to provide additional resources. But I actually don't think
that the policing piece is the issue here. It's the
uh yeah, I mean you could bring all of the
you know, National guardsmen that you want to down to Nadi,
Napolis or the rest of the city. But at the
end of the day, uh, you know, getting them into
jail is not the problem that's keeping them there that

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we really seem to struggle with that. It's because again,
you have a prosecutor and you have judges that are
not serious about the underlying issue of violent crime.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, and we got to get to the root of
how we're going to hold those prosecutors specifically accountable because
it's a big problem around here. That's right, And thankfully
you're focused on that, my friend. I always appreciate your thoughts.

Speaker 16 (54:28):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
You're listening to ninety three WIBC. This is Saturday Night
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Speaker 1 (54:41):
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Speaker 3 (54:56):
Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle where I'm here,
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Hop in the chat, give us a like and join
the fun. Famously, in baseball, the universal rule is that

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three strikes in, you're out. But for one Indianapolis man,
he's already ninety nine strikes deep and still going. And
yet another sordid tale of the chronic injustice being served
up by so called prosecutor Ryan friend of the Miss
Grant Meres, who's already reduced the charges for a man
that stands accused of stabbing and gravely wounding an elderly
gentleman in a gruesome attack, after already getting trespassed from

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nearly every convenience store in the county, a serial mischief maker,
aided and abedded in part by a total effeckless and
limbristed prosecutor. Here to paint a picture of the pernicious
plans of prosecutors in the pockets of powerful global elites
seeking to exert devastation and chaos on society. Is the
steadfastest vendor against the darkness, Producer Carl, who joins us

(56:01):
for another edition of Carl's Conspiracy Corner.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
You and listening to Carl's Conspiracy Corner, the truth is
out there.

Speaker 20 (56:12):
Have you ever seen a calming drink of glass of water?

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Well, hy concha, I have the vius expressed a conspiracy
caral are those of Carl and Carl alone.

Speaker 23 (56:23):
They are not the use of his station or its distributors.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I mean, obviously, deep beneath the streets of Indianapolis in
an undisclosed broadcasting bunker, we're once again joined by producer Carl,
who's here to tell us about this guy who is
a just problem maker across the city. Ninety nine separate arrests,
and now it's escalated into an attempted murder charge that's
already been downgraded by our ridiculous prosecutor. Tell us all

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about a producer, Carl, because I am at my wits
end with this Ryan Muers guy.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
What a kook? What a what a what a moron.
So a couple of things that really funny bumper music.

Speaker 13 (56:59):
I fought the law and the law one in this case,
this guy is able to evade the law over and
over again. Another thought that I had while you was
playing it. Instead of ninety nine looft balloons, it could
be like ninety nine arrests and I keep on going.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
I got ninety nine problems but a prosecution eight one.

Speaker 13 (57:17):
So when I got in on Thursday morning, the first
thing I heard is that, Hey, did you hear that
Stephen Miller retweeted about Indianapolis. I go your kid, Stephen Miller,
the brain in the White House, And there it was.
Is this guy who's evaded arrest where he's been arrested
ninety nine times, but it has evaded jail time.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Quoted me Boose since the gentleman's name and fairness, Carl.
A lot of these arrests are like small time offenses.
They're mostly criminal trustpasses because he's been trespassed from like
every convenience store in the city of Indianapolis.

Speaker 23 (57:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (57:50):
Well, I want you to play this audio from Rick
Snyder of the FOP on The Hammer and Nigel Show.

Speaker 22 (57:57):
When you're usted ninety nine times. I think it begs
the question what's the number? What's the number of times
where somebody in a black robe finally says, you know what,
I don't think this guy is getting it, and we
need to hold him and remand him into custody until
we get a handle on them.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Just have of curiosity. You say, automatically downgraded? What does
that mean? Exactly?

Speaker 22 (58:19):
That's an intentional step taking your prosecutor, who gets the
final decision on what charges to file. So the police
arrested for attempt to murder, they have probable claus for that.
You have a man that's been stabbed, and then the
prosecutor comes in and reviews it and automatically reduces it
two levels down to an aggravated battery due to loss
or impairment of a bodily function. And this is what

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we're left with. It's not only a distance to Indianapolis,
but it's a dereliction of duty by both the prosecutor
and the jurisprudence of the judges.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Where's the justice for the victim and all this, Producer, Carl,
there is no justice because you know what, they don't care.

Speaker 13 (58:58):
I mean, this is the point of Democrat and their
blue cities and the Democrat das, they don't care. They
want the chaos and mayhem because when there's more chaos
and mayhem, you need them. You need the government programs,
you need the mental health care, you need, you need
the welfare because no businesses want to go into these
cities to do business. The Democrats need chaos and poverty.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
And then Rick Snyder also shared on the Hammer at
Hammer and Nigel Show an ironic twist because now we
have more information about the victim and their background, why
they were here in the first place, and it's just
it's just sad.

Speaker 22 (59:36):
Hey, guys, here's the behind the scenes bil. We're being
told by media sources that the victim in this case,
if you can believe this, was visiting our capital city
potentially for the funeral of another murder victim.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah, read that, And so what does that mean?

Speaker 22 (59:51):
I mean, here's my question. How is visit Indy going
to market and message that visit for one murder and
stay for your own and then to see more talk
gears immediate the attack on your own life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
It seems like Indianapolis is just making the headlines for
all the wrong reasons and remember we had like the semifinals,
what was of the NBA finals here with the Pacers
not too long ago.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
You know, we made headlines for the right reasons. And
then now you got people getting stabbed and we're getting retweeted.
It's it's just not a good look, you know what
I have to say.

Speaker 13 (01:00:22):
You know, the Pacers ultimately weren't number one, but we're
number one. You know, all these high profile murders were
pacing Chicago. There were these high profile murderers who have
been released fourteen times. This guy's been released ninety nine times.
We're number one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Oh yeah, yeah. He certainly puts the other guy to shame.

Speaker 13 (01:00:40):
So so I keep on emphasizing this, this is all
going according as planned. Rick Meres is not just the
one off and incompetent DA. He's doing exactly what he's
been told to do. Like he's doing the bidding of
his superior, doing the bidding of the Democrats, the deep state,
the globalist create this chaos and mayhem.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Here is a Is there any connection between like him
and Soros money?

Speaker 13 (01:01:09):
Well I look that up and they can't find where
the money is. But I highly doubt that the Soros
goes elul ric me is, here's the money, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Here's the money you need to do this.

Speaker 13 (01:01:23):
I'm sure a lot of this money is dark money
and you can't really source it. But like generally speaking,
these these prosecutors and these das are Soros DA's they're doing.
They're letting everybody out there. Why do they even have
the job, They're just letting them out. Might as well
just put an AI Democrat in there, because we know

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what the result is going to be every single time.
So I want you to play before we run out
of time. This this attorney, this prosecutor in Florida, of
all places, So this is kind of similar blue city
in a red state. What she's talking about is a
guy caught master aiding in front of children at a park, who.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
All things that are wrong are not illegal.

Speaker 27 (01:02:05):
And I'm not standing before you today telling you that
what happened in that park was wrong. But I am
standing before you today telling you that I trust the
word of the attorney who was assigned to this case
when he said, although those actions were wrong, he could
not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were illegal,

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couldn't prove.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
He was master pages wait, did you say that this
happened in Florida. Florida? It's like, what was Ron de Santis?
Can you kick? Yeah? I do, I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:02:40):
I don't understand these spineless Republicans that don't do anything
about these prosecutors who aren't doing their jobs prosecuting criminals.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
I mean, you expect that kind of thing out of Portland,
where it's totally okay to walk around nick in front
of kids, but Florida.

Speaker 13 (01:02:56):
Which I have a clip from Oregon, Yes, this is okay.
Let me preface this. This is a father talking to
a cop. There's a naked man walking onto his property
in front of his kid.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
In the state of Oregon.

Speaker 15 (01:03:11):
And someone can walk up to your two year old
kid completely bare naked, and that's not a crime, even
if it's on your property.

Speaker 17 (01:03:17):
Correct, Well, so it's trespassing. But what I'm saying is
there's no laws against the actual nudity portion of it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
So we can expose yourself to children in organ.

Speaker 17 (01:03:27):
Again, if you're not doing it for sexual gratification, well,
why is the gratification of somebody else? Yes, you are
allowed to walk around in public naked.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
On private property. This is where I live.

Speaker 16 (01:03:37):
And someone just came and exposed themselves to my two
year old boy, and this officer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Is saying that it's not a crime.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
We have completely jumped the shark producer Carl with the
soft on crime liberal prosecutors. They are letting society, civil
society decay well, and it is hard to think that
this isn't absolutely intentional. So, I mean, I understand the
need to make this connection between like Soro s dark
money and these prosecutters who just seem to be so
beholden either to sinister in shadowy interests or to completely

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misbegotten ideology.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
But either way the result is disaster for us.

Speaker 13 (01:04:12):
What's frustrating is that the Republicans in these states, they
should just run clips like we do as ads against
these prosecutors and go why would you vote for this guy?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Again?

Speaker 13 (01:04:23):
The Republicans don't even try, which makes me believe that
they're kind of in on the scam. As long as
there's Democrats, you always have a boogeyman to keep your office,
but they never actually try to solve the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Well, we do, in fact have some Republicans here in
the state of Indiana, or a Republican well, the one
I should say who's willing to point the finger and
name names in the process. Have you been watching based
Representative Andrew Ireland's twitter feed. He is doing spooky stories
straight from the prosecutor's office here in Indianapolis of repeat

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offenders that have been treated with kid gloves.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
So I highly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Encourage you to check out if you haven't done so,
Representative Andrew Island's twitter feed, he's going to be sharing
these all October. And the finger, you know, definitely finger
blame definitely is being pointed at Ryan Mears here.

Speaker 13 (01:05:14):
Well, I hope finally get something done with Ryan Meres
either he resigns or gets voted out in the next election.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Well, or you know, heck, look at what Donald Trump
is doing with the National Guard in places like Washington,
DC or Memphis.

Speaker 13 (01:05:28):
What you don't even have to go to that guard.
Why isn't a Governor Braun doing something about this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Well, I was about to say, the Governor Braun absolutely
has the ability to exercise that same authority if they
pass a law.

Speaker 13 (01:05:37):
They're they're pushing a law to deal with prosecutors that
aren't actually following the lawn prosecuting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Well, that would be yet another proposal from very based
Andrew Ireland, so definitely check out his Twitter feed. He's
one of the few Republicans who seem to be doing
the good work right now in the state legislature. Unfortunately,
Producer car we've about ran out of time for this segment,
so we're going to have to cut it short, but
I always appreciate hearing your thoughts on this well.

Speaker 13 (01:06:02):
Thank you so much, Ethan.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Stay tuned for more On Saturday Night on the Circle,
we're showing the moon.

Speaker 22 (01:06:11):
And lo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
For the Gold and a rain bowl, and you'll find.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
You were listening to Saturday Night on the Circle A
ninety three WYPC.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
You hear too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen. I really
appreciate you spending your Saturday evening with me here on
the mighty airwaves of the heritage Radio station ninety three WIBC,
a place that I'm very happy to call my home.
And thanks to producer Jack as always for doing the
hard work of making the show function. Over the last
couple months now, I've had an amazing opportunity to come

(01:06:52):
on the first day show with Terry Stacey, Denny Smith
and producer Kylon Tally and they've been let me do
a segment that they've titled Antique Show and Tell. I've
had a lot of fun with it. It's been an
outlet for me to share elements of my collection and
my love for antiquing, the thrill of the hunt, but
also tell the stories of these pieces that connect us

(01:07:16):
to our past. And recently I was on the show
sharing about my mechanical matchstick dispenser, which I thought was
super cool and I hope you do too.

Speaker 28 (01:07:28):
Thank you so much for joining us here on the
first day. Terry, Stacy, Denny Smith, Kyle and Tally. It's
time for our first day Show and Tell.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Look what the dog drug is.

Speaker 28 (01:07:36):
Ethan Hatcher is here from Saturday nights on the Circle.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
If it's going to be anything, Denny, it's a cat chat, okay,
all right?

Speaker 28 (01:07:46):
Tell he's a he's a dealer. No, he's an antique guy.
He loves antiques, he loves his histories and enth enthusiast
and he raises, he praises goods things to look at
because I love his street. And so if you're watching
on YouTube, you can see what Ethan has brought us today.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
Hi, my friend, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I am excellent. Thanks for having me on the show.
I always am excited to bring you new goodies to show.
Is that a projector No, this is a teeny tiny
match stick dispenser. It would have sat at a grocery
grocery wholesaler at the turn of the century. And I
love how everyday objects were just elevated to a higher

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art form. Everything was given honor and status.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Remember we had things like that, We had toothpicked dispensers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
This is even fancier than that because those toothpick dispensers.
You gotta twist yourself. Check this out, Denny, All right,
there we go. Okay, pulled out, I'll pull out another one.

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
Pull out doing the little lever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
And then it fetches a dispenses it so does it
have a main sru You get to wind it up?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
You just pushed down the lever right here like so,
and then it's ready to go to those of you.

Speaker 28 (01:09:01):
They can't see it. Describe it what it looks like
to those listening. Well, I'll just say, let me get
the cameron it's made of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
It is a cast iron black box with it does
resemble vaguely toothpick dispenser, and then when you lift the
top off of it, there's a little screw that keeps
it in place. This is where all the metch sticks.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
How old is it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
This is about one hundred and twenty years older in
the vicinity at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Cool, right, Isn't that so?

Speaker 26 (01:09:27):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
You don't see that kind of craftsmanship in mundane objects
like that these days.

Speaker 28 (01:09:33):
It's look is there's such detail?

Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
Where'd you find it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
I found this at the Heartland Antique Festival in Richmond,
Indiana a couple of years ago. It's held every June,
and I've found some great stuff out there. But it
began its life at the Roundy, Peckham and Dexter Grocery
Wholesaler Wholesalers Corporation in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And that is a

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company that goes all the way back to eighteen seventy two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Terry where you're stounded. You're saying you stole it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Yes, I stole it for about five hundred dollars how much?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Really? Yeah? That sound as it was?

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
Well, it's so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
When are you going to come up a great When
are you going to get another one?

Speaker 20 (01:10:14):
Like?

Speaker 28 (01:10:14):
Its beautiful condition and it really is a piece of
art to me.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
When I look at some of this stuff, it's art.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
So they operated as a wholesaler from about eighteen seventy
two to nineteen fifty five or thereabouts, when they ultimately
transitioned into the retail market and became the Roundies supermarket chain,
which continued to be in operation until twenty fifteen, when
it was officially purchased by the Kroger Corporation of Cincinnati.

Speaker 28 (01:10:42):
Hi, I remember the name when you said that name, Roundies,
and I thought, that's still around, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
No, I think it's still well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I think some of the chains are still operational, but
it's under different corporate ownership.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Now. Wow, yeah, that's cool. Y.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
I finally can talk a little bit about Since it's
a match stick dispenser, we could talk a little bit
about the history of matches, because this is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Something that a lot of people overlook. Well think about it, Terry.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
I know, up until the nineteenth century, there wasn't a
portable way to start fires outside of flint and stlint
and steel outside of flint a class.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Which is something that even the Romans used.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
But besides that, you had to carry the fire from
a fire to another fire in order to start it.
But the original match sticks were coated in white phosphorus,
and this is a highly toxic, highly reactive chemical that
ignites under basic friction. Have you ever seen those old
like Looney Tunes cartoons where they strike a match stick

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on the bottom of their shoe. That's because it was
it was physically possible to do with the more chemically.

Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
Do you remember did you see that? Yeah, I didn't
know that was actually.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
I remember walking over to go like this on your
behind right, Well, you can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
You would do that with a white phosphorus match stick
because it is a more volatile chemical, but it has
incredibly negative effects on the health. These matchtick girls who
worked in match stick factories would develop something called fossy jaw,
which is a terrible disease that's caused by white phosphorus.
It would seep in through the cavities in their teeth

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and cause their bones to rot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Your lord, this is Family Radio. I think it's very interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:12:24):
He's like a history book.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Well it became great. He's like Quincy Quinsy.

Speaker 7 (01:12:29):
That's fan. I had no idea, never even knew of
that story.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
It's because white phosphorus would react with their when they
would breathe with the moisture vapor and the carbon dioxide
in the air, and then it would seep in through
their jones. It blocks osteoblasts in the body. I was
going to say that, And so the bone tissue that
regenerates more quickly, like your jawbone, will be affected first,

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and the only way to take care of that is
to rip the affected bone out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Yeah, stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
We can recontinue to use white phosphorus matches up unto
the nineteen thirties in the United States, even though it
was known as far back as eighteen fifty six. I
think that this white phosphorus was bad stuff, and they
developed the more chemically stable, refined red phosphorus, which is
what we use on matches today. And the red phosphorus

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is not on the match stick itself, it's on the striker.
It's it's of pulverized glass and red phosphorus and that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Makes the ignition.

Speaker 7 (01:13:31):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
And it turns red phosphorus chemically into white phosphorus. When
you strike it on the on the strike serface.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
You can burn the studio.

Speaker 22 (01:13:42):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I love the smell of it. It won't even mel Off.

Speaker 7 (01:13:45):
Are I like the smell of a burner.

Speaker 19 (01:13:48):
Thankfully, Denny's a fire marshal too, A b a lot
of financially.

Speaker 28 (01:13:52):
By Ethan, we just have a couple of minutes. Great story.
You bought something really cool one a week ago, two
weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Oh, you're you're talking about another one of my phonographs.
I went down to Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 7 (01:14:02):
He loves these things. Is that how many?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
They're all different sizes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Some of them are no bigger than this match Dick dispenser,
and some of them are console sized or larger. So
they're they're all different sizes and makes and that's part
of what makes collecting phonographs fun. But yeah, what you're
talking about is the Edison Diamond disc Jacobean art case model.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
I was going to say that too.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
I know Denny, and it wasn't a commercially popular model.
It was one of their worst sellers, which is what
makes it rare today, and that's why I went it,
popped down to Ohio and snapped.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
That that's super cool. Are you going next or what
are you looking for next? Anything?

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Well, I have my eye on a little tin mechanical
scare a beetle that was made by the Marx toy
company and that's being sold in Ohio. But I just
don't have the spare cash lying around these days.

Speaker 7 (01:14:55):
Boy, Uncle Denny's bank right next to you. That's the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You got me a loan to float? What's the interest rate?

Speaker 7 (01:15:03):
Ethan Hatcher.

Speaker 28 (01:15:06):
He always gives me the look, and I think I
got a finger with that when that time, Denny, it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Was a pointer finger Ethan.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Hatcher with Saturday Nights on the Circle.

Speaker 28 (01:15:16):
Thank you, my friend. It's so fun to have you
here with first day Show and Tell.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
And thank you folks for being a part of another
weekly edition of Saturday Night on the Circle. I'll be
back to the airwaves next week, but in the meantime,
I'll leave you with my parting words of wisdom. As always,
wherever you are, whoever you're with, and whatever you're doing,
remember that life is a state of mind. See you
next time.