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Speaker 1 (00:02):
On Saturday Night, all the phone gets all flaking, started
drinking tail.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
The free you were listening to Saturday Night on the
Circle ninety three y DC, please.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Started clapping it.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
He started drinking it free.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to another edition of Saturday
Night on the Circle where I'm your bespectacled Grimadge and
Ethan Hatcher. And that's Producer Jack over on the board,
bit bit bit, pushing the buttons intoing the things to
make the show function. Producer Jack, this has been an
extremely exhausting, tiresome, disheartening week for me. Have you perchance

(00:41):
heard what's been going on my properties on the East
Side over the past seven days?

Speaker 6 (00:48):
Yes, but I kind of forget.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
There's a shooting.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Oh yes, yeah, noah, the out of control crime in
Indianapolis has come to one of the doorsteps. For This
wasn't my personal house. This was a rental house. But
this is the second time that this has happened, and
the first time it was my personal house three years ago,
right after New Year's Day, or I think it was

(01:13):
New Year's Day. It was about twelve o'clock in the afternoon,
and I started hearing gunfire out in front of my house,
and I thought it was fireworks until it dawned on
me that there was twelve o'clock in the afternoon, and
that didn't make a lot of sense. So I look
outside and see these knuckleheads shooting at each other, running
around in the street, hitting my house with about a
dozen bullet holes, shattered two windows. I think a bullet

(01:34):
flew through my personal bedroom and into the living room
of my house. I thought that was absolutely terrifying. But
that wasn't the worst of it. This week, some criminal
nutcases turned one of my properties into Swiss cheese. They
did to my house what they did to the car
of Bonnie and Clyde, and completely peppered it with bullets.
I mean, it's been It's going to be very expensive

(01:57):
to fix all that. It's very disheartening. And on top
of it, Producer Jack, last night I started coming down
with cold. This has not been my week.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Suffice to say, yeah, I'm sorry that.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah, no, it's been a mess. We've got a big
show lined up. Stay tuned. In the second segment, I'm
going to talk a little bit more about the shooting,
about the cost to repair, about all the all the
juicy details that you want to hear. Be replaying an
interview that I got to do with Fox fifty nine
News talking about the situation, although I wish they would

(02:31):
have included the part where I specifically laid the blame
at the laid blame at the feet of Mayor Joe
Hogsnott and his friend Ryan, friend of the Miss Grant
Meares for the rampant crime in Indianapolis. But anyway, you'll
get to all that in segment two, and then later
in the show also talk about something fortunately a little
more entertaining and relieving edifying. Dare I say that I

(02:54):
got to do earlier this afternoon? Did you know the
World Food Championships were back in town this year?

Speaker 6 (03:01):
I think I drove pass by that's in the fairground. Yeah, yeah, okay,
I was wondering what that was.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh yeah, No.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
They came here for the first time last year and
they returned this year. Indianapolis, of course, is a fantastic
venue for conventions, and it's great, it's perfect.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
We get a little.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Boost from the tourist economy, and then they all go home.
It's not like Florida where they want to move in
here and stay. You just come you have your event
and then you leave, and that's that's the way it
should be. So I'll give you my impressions from the
World Food Championships later in hour two. Stay tuned for that.
But locally, we had some big news this week as
Mark Sanchez was officially released from the hospital and he

(03:42):
reported to the Indianapolis Criminal Justice Center over on the
near east side twin Air area by Rural and English Avenue,
and he reported to get his fingerprints taken, his much
mugshot taken court ordered before he was allowed to leave,
and he made sure as well he should to thank
the surgeon who operated on him for saving his life

(04:05):
after being stabbed.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
Mark, is there anything you want to see the people
of Indianapolis, I.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Said, and then I'm just uh focused on my recovery
and uh, I just want to thank you the first
responders Asconazi hospital.

Speaker 8 (04:32):
Man.

Speaker 9 (04:33):
That's just want to thank doctor Moussler, the surgeon should
said my life to him. I'm great foot with im.
Sorry attendance earlier any better.

Speaker 10 (04:46):
Thank you guys recovering slowly, appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (04:48):
Thank you process.

Speaker 10 (04:50):
That's your affair. A bum, That's what he is.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
A bum.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
We found out more details about Mark Sanchez. Apparently, when
one of his ex lovers got news of his alleged
attack against this sixty nine year old gentleman in downtown Indianapolis,
her response, without elaborating, was she.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Was not surprised.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
So I suspect we will be finding out significant information
about Mark sanchez private life, especially if he chooses not
to settle in a civil case for damages that he
inflicted during this alleged attack, let alone whatever comes of
the criminal case against him. He has the best legal
team that money can buy, assembled here in the city

(05:36):
of Indianapolis, and being that this is a I believe,
first time violent offense, it's likely that the sympathetic judges
of Marion County, who, especially as I understand it, are
sympathetic to substance abusers, are going to treat him with
kid gloves.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
But that doesn't.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Mean that he's going to get out of civil litigation
for damages, and he will have to pay through the nose,
not only for any settlement that might be reached, but
also for the legal services that he is incorrect all
of this self inflicted wounds as we understand it from
Mark Sanchez. Still, what a bizarre story producer Jack, where

(06:13):
you hear you know this prominence? I guess sports football player,
quarterback for I don't know what team, and I don't
really care. A news broadcaster for Fox Sports and then
gets allegedly inebriated or intoxicated on one or more substances
and starts causing problems downtown. I don't think anybody saw

(06:33):
that coming, but yeah, what a strange case. We also
got more security cam footage which is just weird of
him kind of jogging around downtown. He's he interacted with
some people, he passed by a pub, and then he
turned around and went back to the garage where this

(06:54):
elderly gentleman was unloading the grease traps for the restaurant
and then attacked him. Just really bizarre, hard to understand behavior.
But you know, when you are abusing substances, it puts
you in an altered state of consciousness, and it usually
brings out the side of you that perhaps you try

(07:16):
to hide the intrusive.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Thoughts that you might have in your life.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
It doesn't implant them inside of you, it just makes
you more likely to act upon them. So we're going
to be finding out more information about what happened that
fateful evening when Mark Sanchez allegedly stabbed an elderly gentleman.
I think many people would have expected some effusive apology,
perhaps coming out of the criminal Justice Center, but that

(07:41):
would be a legal strategy not to admit guilt and
possibly mitigate some of those enormous damages that he will
have to pay through the nose to cover. We also
had some reports on the Walmart encampment on the near
east Side in council Member Michael Paul Hart's district, and
the Office of Public Elephants Safety says that this is

(08:02):
a reoccurring camp, but they hadn't been asked to deal
with it in recent months.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
See if you buy this excuse, producer.

Speaker 12 (08:09):
Jack, there's some concerns this morning about a homeless encampment.
This is on the east side of Indianapolis.

Speaker 13 (08:14):
So this is behind a Walmart and we're also hearing it.
It's been an issue for years, but the Office of
Public Health and Safety says his office just actually learned
of this encampment and he calls it a re established camp.

Speaker 12 (08:27):
OPHS says they've asked IMPD to monitor this area and
report how many people are living here.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
I have not heard about any particular challenges aside from that,
you know they're being individuals there, there's a camp, and
that there is a lot of maybe.

Speaker 10 (08:44):
Trash in the area.

Speaker 12 (08:45):
A spokesperson for Walmart says this isn't a new problem,
and it's impacted several local businesses, not just theirs. Leaders
with streets to home and d say they haven't been
contacted to help with this particular encampment.

Speaker 14 (08:57):
What is whole place sucks, So it's not right, It sucks.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
No wonder Indianapolis has been overrun with homeless encampments when
you have dopey bureaucratic official. Well, I haven't heard of
any problems going on over there, Yeah, because nobody trusts
the city government to do anything about it. Look how
they dithered and dawdled when they had tried to finally
got their arms twisted to handle the Leonard Street encampment

(09:23):
on the Fountain Square skid row just around the corner
here from downtown Indianapolis. They drugged their feet, they coddled
these people, and it took them forever to close the camp,
and most of them just moved to other encampments around
the city, including one that is now growing beneath the
street of beneath the I sixty nine overpass over there

(09:44):
on Ohio Street as it turns into Pine and New York.
So lots of problems here on the east side of Indianapolis,
which anybody who's lived in the city for any length
of time is well aware of. We also had a
rather refreshing bit of honesty from one Democratic Senator, John Fetterman.

(10:05):
Sometimes we call him the better Man because he is
willing to criticize his own side for their malfeasance and ineptitude,
in this case specifically blaming them for causing the government
shut down. This is all politics, and John Fetterman is
washing his hands of it. I believe, in an attempt

(10:25):
to read the tea leaves and take advantage of the
changing cultural wins.

Speaker 15 (10:30):
Shutting the government is really what the Democratic Party wants
to do, and I follow country, then party, and it's
the wrong thing for the country in a period of chaos.
I refuse to vote to shut our government down. I
absolutely would love.

Speaker 16 (10:45):
To have.

Speaker 15 (10:50):
I would love to have a conversation about extending the
tax credits for healthcare, absolutely, but I would remind everybody too,
this was design by the Democratic Party to expire at
the end of the year. This is not something taken
from by the Republicans.

Speaker 17 (11:08):
He said it.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
He said it.

Speaker 18 (11:10):
There, it is, there is.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
On this stage you had John Fetterman, you had Steven A.
Smith and Bill O'Reilly, some heavy hitters from a fairly
broad political spectrum, but they were all able to unanimously
agree that the Democrats are the ones extending this government
shutdown now in its eighteenth day, for political purposes that

(11:33):
I believe will backfire in spectacular fashion. If for no
other reason, then people are finally wise to the game
of Democrats and they tire of the extremism, something that
John Fetterman also went on to say at the same event.

Speaker 15 (11:47):
You know, if you're thinking about winning winning the election,
you know, and so now that's all going to come
down to seven or eight states, and that's that's really
that matters. And I would like to remind everybody, but
as we all know that Trump ran the table all
of those kinds of states, and now you can't ever

(12:09):
forget these are the states that are going to determine
who's going to be the next administration. And now a
lot of the things the extremism that people turn their
back in twenty four and that's how we kind of
came up short. I mean, you know, I campaigned for thousands,
thousands and thousands of miles across Pennsylvania for Vice President Harris,
and it was going to be incredibly difficult.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
You could just feel the.

Speaker 15 (12:31):
Energy there and people really have connected there and at
a very fundamental and that's why I tried to explain
to my party, and I'm trying to explain to the
party right now. It's like, this is why we lost,
and this is where we need to be to continue
to win for these things. And there are parts of
extreme things emerging clearly on those things, and that's why
I refuse to follow that, even if that is going

(12:51):
to cost me support in parts of the base.

Speaker 19 (12:55):
The reason I'm telling you all this is because I'm
playing both sides so that I always come out on top.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Don't trust John Fetterman any further than I can throw him.
I suspect he would full throatedly endorse radical Democrat policies
if given the opportunity. However, he has more political acumen
than I gave him credit for initially, Because this is
a page straight out of the Book of Bill Clinton
producer Jack. He's triangulating, he is reading the room. He
understands that he has to work with his Republican adversaries

(13:23):
across the aisle, and so is moderating some of his
opinions to that end.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Love to see it.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Wish more Democrats would embrace that philosophy. Thanks for listening
to ninety three WIBC. Coming up next, stay tuned. I'm
going to replay the interview I conducted with Fox fifty
nine News and we'll talk a little bit more about
the damages I incurred from the rampant criminality infesting Indianapolis.
Don't miss it. Keep your dials locked to ninety three

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WIBC and stay tuned for more Saturday Night on the Circle.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
You're listening to Saturday Night on the Circle, a nuty
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Speaker 19 (14:10):
Business.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Welcome to ninety three WIVC another edition of Saturday Night
on the Circle where I'm your bespectacled Primage and Ethan Hatcher.
And this week I found myself experiencing the rampant criminality
of Indianapolis firsthand, as one of the properties that I
own was peppered with bullets from criminal hooligans, endangering neighbors

(14:40):
and terrifying the residents, the tenants who are currently occupying
the building. This is really distressing to me. I think
it's further evidence of how far this city has deteriorated
under the incredibly inept lack of leadership from Joe hog
Set and Prosecutor Ryan Mehir. This is the revolving door

(15:02):
of the criminal justice system at work. I can only
imagine people who are brazen enough to shoot up a
residence with dozens of bullets have most likely encountered law
enforcement multiple times in the past. They may have even
spent time in prison in the past. But when you

(15:22):
have these cash for that matter, they may be out
on bond. When you have cashless bail, when you have
these low level bonds, when you have light sentences that
are given through sweetheart plea deals, you have rampant criminality
that is going on and literally tearing Indianapolis apart. It's
like the old saying goes that mercy to the guilty

(15:44):
is cruelty to the innocent. That was penned by Adam
Smith long ago, and the words ring especially true today.
I sat down with Fox fifty nine News to do
an interview about the shootout, and this was conducted by
Charles Benny.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Here's what they aired.

Speaker 20 (16:03):
This is a fact Denne Crime Tracker alert east Side neighbors.
They're really fed up with a violence on the street,
especially on this block after a home was weighted with
bullets after an a parent shootout fake DEDI Charles Benbury.
He learned about the family and why they tell us
that they are lucky to be alive.

Speaker 21 (16:19):
The family that lives at this house believes the shooting
that started right here at Saint Clair and Drexel ended
up hitting their house and leaving their house looking like this. Now,
please for intescanny. What happened and when led up to
this house being sprayed with bullets. What sounded like a
loud banging at a door turned out to be gunshots
that woke up neighbors outside at home in the eight
hundred block of Drexler Avenue.

Speaker 22 (16:39):
I couldn't tell if I was like just streaming it,
and then all of a sudden, I shot up.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I looked at my phone.

Speaker 22 (16:43):
There was five twenty and then I saw the neighbors alert, like.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Five minutes later.

Speaker 21 (16:46):
The family was home sleeping when they heard the gunfire.
They didn't want to go on camera, but the father
tells me he protected his two kids and wife as
they ducked for cover. You can see from these pictures
the extent of the damage inside the home from the
hail of gunfire.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
It's hard to hold your head high and do the
right thing and fix up these properties and put the
money into them to make them a nice and attractive
place to live when this city is so rough, it's
just going to get shot up, and your hard work
isn't going to be destroyed.

Speaker 11 (17:11):
It's disheartening there there, all along the front.

Speaker 21 (17:16):
Ethan Hatcher has owned the property since twenty twenty. He says,
while he's had his fair share of issues, he's experienced
nothing like this.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
This is much more extensive than that.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
It went through a closet door, went through the front door,
went through a bedroom door, went through trim, went through
at least a dozen windows.

Speaker 21 (17:31):
IPD doesn't have any suspects in this case. They stressed
people must sell their conflicts without putting innocent people in danger.

Speaker 22 (17:37):
Whatever was going on, they decided to play out this
argument and escalate it to that level of violence amongst
houses where children were sleeping.

Speaker 21 (17:46):
You know your tenants are thinking or will be moving
because they don't feel the area safe.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Can you blame them? They must feel terrified on Nitty's
East side.

Speaker 21 (17:54):
Charles Binberry Fox fifty nine News.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
The reality is that Indianapolis, like any other city, has problems.
There will always be a criminal element that is left
to contend with because of the unpredictable nature of humans
and the consequence of free will. But that being said,
the incredibly ineffective enforcement of basic civil standards in Indianapolis

(18:18):
has led to this kind of activity festering. It is
far worse now than it was ten years ago, regardless
of the hemming and hawing that you want to hear
democrats give, like, oh well, statistically it's lower than it
was in twenty twenty, but it's still significantly higher than
it was in twenty fifteen. Triple digit murders are now

(18:38):
very commonplace in Indianapolis, and that was not always the case,
but unfortunately it has continued to decline in my lifetime.
And now now I'm left to pick up the pieces
as this property has been literally torn apart by bullets,
costing me thousands of dollars. Something that I talked a
little bit more in detail about when I was on

(19:00):
the Kendall and Casey Show on Friday. The expense involved
and the extent of the damages was surreal. Man, this
is a horrible story. It's fascinating to me, but it's horrible.
You posted this on Twitter. You're talking about my house. Yeah,
so you own we joke, But you owned several houses.
You are a land, you're you're living, renting houses to people.

(19:21):
Most of them are east side of East side of
Indianapolis and the aryast side of India, I think is
what the technical term is. And somebody shot up one
of your houses the other night. I mean when you
say they shot up, like okay, Rob, See this isn't
even the first time this has happened to me in Indianapolis.
Remember a couple of years ago, at the beginning of
twenty twenty two, when my house got shot up.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I was caught in the crossfire. I've been your house.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
I've seen the bullet hole. I was right street shooting.
I had a couple of windows get shot out. Bullet
went right through my house or right through my bedroom
into my living room.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I thought that was bad.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
When I got caught in the crossfire of a little
more than a dozen bullets in the front of my house.
Rob They turned this place where my tenants live into
Swiss cheese. It's like nothing I've ever seen. They Bonnie
and clyded the place, you know, the famous Bonnie Clyde car.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
They did that to a house. They shot out about a.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Dozen windows, shattered concrete in the foundation.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I mean, it is a wreck. It's a mess. Now.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
This shot through a closet door, the front door, a
bedroom door.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Many holes in the walls.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
It's no, this is not but I want to point
this out and nothing it makes it any better. But
this is not the house you live in. This is
one of the houses you rent. Yes, this is a
rental property with people in it. There were people, they
were in it at the time. This happened at four
o'clock in the morning. You know, these people are just
laying their heads down and sleeping. So what do you
what happens when that? Like, I mean, did they call you?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Obviously?

Speaker 5 (20:39):
I say they call the police for like, what what
happens when a house gets shot up? They called the
police first, which was the correct course of action, because
there's not much I can do at four o'clock in
the morning when somebody shoots up on one of my properties.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
So they called police.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Police showed up to take a report, they took pictures,
and then they left. I'm not sure if there will
be any more to the IMPD investigation than that, but
now we begin the clean up process. So and I
thought you, I mean, you posted, by the way, what's
your Twitter handles you if you can find my Twitter
at Ethan Hatcher. My name e t h N A
j A t c h E r at Ethan Hatcher. Okay,

(21:16):
And so you posted these photos that people want to
see them, and it's really staggering, like to see these
these pictures. But I thought your kind of description of
this was great, which is it's obviously dangerous and horrible,
but for you, as the landlord, it's incredibly disheartening because
you put a lot of effort into your properties to
make them livable and passable and something the community can
you know, be proud of or you're you're proud to

(21:37):
live in and then people just do all this destruction
to your property and you've got to pay out of
your own pocket to fix the damage that they've done.
Trying to do the right thing and hold your head
up high. In the city of Indianapolis is like trying
to swim with training weights on. You are constantly being
dragged down by the crap that Democrats have let fester

(21:59):
in our And I directly connect activities like this to
the actions of Joe hog Sett and Ryaneers over the past.
You know, well hog Set since twenty sixteen, Mears since
twenty nineteen. So do you have any faith that one
the person or people are gonna be caught and two
then anything will happen to them? Well, I mean, if

(22:19):
they're caught, you know, we can talk, especially if they're
a repeat offender. You know, maybe this is the tipping point.
But you know, that's a big if they're even gonna
be caught, because I'm not sure they didn't catch They
were on foot, so they didn't catch any license plates
from nearby ring doorbell cameras or security cameras. There's just

(22:40):
not a lot to go on besides the shellcasings that
were retrieved, and I don't even know if IMPD retrieved
them all, because I found quite a few on the
sidewalk just myself looking around. And it's unbelievable that everybody
should go look at the photos.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
By the way, they will just make you sick.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
This is sort of like standard operating procedure now where
some guy's house got shot up. Well, you know, it's Indianapolis, Like,
it's just sort of I mean, I put thousands of
dollars into this place, rob It is so disheartening. I mean, look,
I put it was at least thirteen hundred dollars for
a new epoxy floor coating in the front porch, which
was concrete. It was five thousand dollars to repair some

(23:19):
roof leaks. It was several thousand dollars to rip out
and replace all of the electrical wiring in the property.
We put a new tub there and new tubs around,
a new kitchen sink, a new kitchen counter, new tile countertops.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
New kitchen flooring.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
We repaired and redid some drywall work. We refinished all
of the hardwood flooring, put in a couple of new doors,
refinished all the antique woodwork, stayed that polyrathane.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
That There's a lot, a lot of a lot of work.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
That went into making this single family home an attractive
place to live. And that's all just you know, been
literally shot to pieces. By these criminal freaks that Ryan
Mears and Joe Hogsnott have.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Sympathy for.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Yeah, I mean, and it's unbelievable. I hate that this happened.
Do you hopefull your insurance will pay for some of this?
I'm not sure if they will, Rob, because whether or
not my insurance is going to cover the damages is
entirely hinged on whether this can be construed as vandalism,
because if it can't, and I got my insurance agent
looking into that right now, then I'm on the hook

(24:21):
for all of these repairs. Must have somebody putting bullets
through your house not be construed as vandalism. Well, I'm
not an insurance suggest to Rob, so I'm not sure
how they interpret the language. But yeah, you know, if
they would have spray painted the front of the house, yes,
that that would have been covered. Peppering it with bullets
maybe maybe. Unfortunately, I truly believe that the state of

(24:42):
this city is not going to significantly improve unless there
is a drastic change of leadership at the top level.
I'm talking about the mayor, Joe Hogg said, I'm talking
about Prosecutor Ryan Meres, and then also some of these
sympathetic left leaning judges like Mark Stoner or Jennifer Prince
Harrison running around and letting these Marion County criminals rule

(25:03):
the roost and run loose to the detriment of civil
society at large. I'm really sick and tired of it,
fed up quite frankly, but unfortunately I don't see a
solution or an end to the problem anytime in the
near future. Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen. This is ninety
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Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle. I'm your
bespectacled Grimadge and Ethan Hatcher. That's producer Jack on the board.
And this week we begin with Barack Obama lamenting that
Donald Trump is weaponizing the Department of Justice. Oh, how
hilarious it is now that the tables have turned.

Speaker 24 (26:58):
Yeah, we don't want, you know, kangaroo courts and trumped
up charges. That's what happens in other places that we
used to scold, yeah for doing that. We want like
our court system and our Justice Department and our prosecutors
to be and our FBI to be just playing things

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straight and looking at the facts and not meddling in
politics the way the way we've seen later lately.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
I'm old enough to remember when they were kicking down
the door of mar Lago because Donald Trump had retained
classic or classified information in some boxes following his departure
from the White House, he was still organizing files. But
they went after him anyway, yet failed to hold Joe
Biden accountable for keeping classified information dating back all the

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way to the nineteen seventies. Absolutely, it was a political attack. Absolutely,
when you have former FBI Director James comyjesting to eighty
six forty seven, we know what that means. We know
what game they were playing. When you had Letitia James
run her campaign on targeting Donald Trump, you didn't hear

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a peep from Democrats back then about weaponizing the Department
of Justice. These people are full of hypocrisy. That was
pointed out pretty artfully by Scott Jennings on CNN.

Speaker 25 (28:22):
I'm stunned to hear you say we're now worried about
normalizing this kind of thing we had.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
A turn about to do right now, let's hear it.

Speaker 25 (28:29):
I'm about to tell you what happened in the state
of New York when the Democratic Attorney General ran an
entire political campaign promising promising not to uphol justice, but
to prosecute one person, Donald Trump. And I didn't hear
a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth among Democrats
about normalizing the weaponization of justice. That chart you put
up there, My question is do they deserve it if

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they didn't do anything wrong. I'm not certain anything bad
is going to happen to them, Bolton. That started under
Joe Biden. These people that you put on the screen,
they may have something that needs to be but don't
you have trust in the in the processes grand juries?
This is how the system works.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
Get ready, pal, you're runn er a problem.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
See that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
They don't trust the system because they don't trust it
when they're not in charge of it. That's the dirty
little secret. They want to be in charge so they
can weaponize it against you. And if they're willing to
weaponize it against a former president of the United States,
they are certainly willing to weaponize it against citizens.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
That they disagree with.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
You also had Kamala Harris at continuing on her tour
of delusion, this time claiming that she was the most
qualified candidate to ever run for president in history.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
This is comical.

Speaker 10 (29:42):
That is decent, But that is a decent resume.

Speaker 26 (29:45):
But go ahead there, Well, some people have actually said
I was the most qualified candidate ever to run for president.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Ah, I like you I like this.

Speaker 27 (29:59):
Some people's say, very nice, but go ahead, I'm just
speaking fact.

Speaker 24 (30:04):
Yeah, oh wait you serious?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Let me laugh even harder.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Kamala Harris was, to my knowledge, the least qualified candidate
to ever run for office, because she's the only candidate
that ever acquired her position because of her demographics, not
because anything she brought to the table. Joe Biden said
to himself, he picked.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Her because she was a black woman.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Nothing about her politics, nothing about her achievements, just filling
out tick boxes for the diversity quota. And that's ultimately
what forced the Democratic Party to coalesce behind her as
Biden's mental state deteriorated. And that's the only reason why
she got picked. It had nothing to do with her qualifications.
And she is completely delusional.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
This was hilarious.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
In the United Kingdom, there was a choir who had
and this is the first time they've done it. They
booked out Saint Andrew's Cathedral where they could hold an event.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
There was a ticketed event.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
People showed up, and then about ten thirty at night,
you have this angry bishop come stumbling out in his pajamas,
were draped in a robe, and he puts the event
to a stop.

Speaker 8 (31:21):
It's going on.

Speaker 28 (31:29):
You are in my house.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
It's no offense, but you are a stupid ass.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Now the bishop has since apologized.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Of course, he has a parsonage on the property, lives
within the church, so it is his house. And he
was feeling mighty cranky at ten thirty at night when
these people were singing in the chambers. But they had
already arranged to be there, They had approval to be
inside the bishop's cathedral, and this is the first time
they'd done it. He was just feeling especially cranky that evening,

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and he since apologized. But still that'd be pretty pretty
bad for the performers, especially if you were the ones
he cut off before they ended the night prematurely. Here's
a blast from the past. This is Dan Rather forty
three years ago predicting that twenty five percent of the
state of Florida would be underwater thanks to the ravages

(32:34):
of climate change. Let's see how that prediction turned out.

Speaker 28 (32:37):
Concern about rising temperatures on planet Earth heated up a
hearing here in Washington today. For years, scientists have theorized
about the dangers of the so called greenhouse effect. The
warning of the Earth's atmosphere due to the burning of
coal and oil, and in recent months, as David Cohane reports,
research has uncovered facts to support that theory.

Speaker 29 (32:57):
Many scientists claim that the temperature of the earth Its
atmosphere has been rising over the past one hundred years,
that the great sheets of pack Ice and Antarctica are
melting at a much more rapid rate than previously. Finally,
that the sea level has been rising with increasing swiftness
over the past forty years. If these scientists are correct,
about twenty five percent of Florida would be flooded, along

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with low lying areas all over the world.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
Are you seeing a pattern?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
These were all the smartest scientists.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
On the planet.

Speaker 14 (33:27):
Only problem is they kept being wrong sometimes.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yeah, I think that prediction missed the mark by about
twenty five percent. None of Florida is underwater, the ice
sheets are still intact, and it shows once again that
these doomsday prophecies, whether they're offered up by cult, fanatic
religions or doomsday scientists, often prove to be factually baseless.
Thanks for listening to ninety three WIBC. Another clip I

(33:55):
wanted to play. This is a little old now. It's
about ten years old. But this is sixty minute interviewing
migrants in Sweden back when they back when they said
there was a migrant prices in twenty sixteen in the country.
And this shows the wonderful joys of diversity in your community.

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As they were attacked. As soon as their police escort
left their side, the young men, young military aged men
in the community came out started assaulting them.

Speaker 30 (34:26):
Many locals are polite and friendly. I'm happy to talk.
I didn't have that, but what happened next changed everything.
The police leave and as we prepare to go, young
men masking their faces are.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
Right, you're doing good? Yeah, okay, good, okay, you too,
and attack. It's on con.

Speaker 30 (35:16):
The gang's attention turns when a local intervenes and drives
his mobility scooter into the most violent attack.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I am shocked. Shocked, well not that shocked.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Took a guy on a mobility scooter to intervene and
allow those people to escape. It's always curious that the
claim is force diversity improves our communities, and yet it
does never seem to improve their communities in their own country.
Very curious, indeed, and this is exactly what we'll experience
if candidates like omar ft over there in Minneapolis, Minnesota

(35:50):
are allowed to get their way where if elected. He
believes police should not collaborate with border enforcement authorities.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
Center yarn record.

Speaker 31 (35:59):
I'm saying that you would not encourage me if I'm wrong.
You would not support the Trump administration activating the National
Guard in Minneapolis if they're sent here. If there's a
federal ICE raid, some other related arrests similar and this,
say sparks protests, riots, there's looting, would you support any
kind of response by Minneapolis police.

Speaker 11 (36:21):
I don't believe there's any instance in which MPD should
be collaborating with ICE.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
To answer your question, that's number.

Speaker 13 (36:26):
One, I'm in danger.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
You've been Warren, folks. Stay tuned in ninety three WIBC.
We got more on the way.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
You're listening to Saturday Night on the Circle A nightty
three WYPC.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
This segment, I want to discuss the bureaucratic officials of
Ellicott City, Maryland, who evidently are opposed too fun and
they're turning this very rapidly into a First Amendment issue
now that they're demanding merchants take down cheeky statuary outside
their establishment. Boo boo, I say.

Speaker 32 (37:13):
Along Ellicate City's century old main street sits Georgia Grace
Cafe and right out front a massive Georgia peach. Across
the street is an enormous a plant known as the aubergine.
Both produced popularized over text as playful nods to body parts.

Speaker 11 (37:32):
I don't quite understand the inn window because I have
one of those body parts and doesn't look like that,
and it's not propole to.

Speaker 32 (37:37):
Now these merchants are being told to take them down.
Discussed in last week's Historical Preservation Commission meeting, the HBC
has expressed concern about the art detracting from the historic buildings.
Without approval, these statues must come down. Those who support
them say that they plan to appeal and that they're
willing to take this as far as the Maryland Circuit Court.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I thought this was America.

Speaker 17 (38:01):
Huh is this America?

Speaker 10 (38:03):
I thought I thought this was America.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
This battle has been played out several times before. There's
always some cheeky little bastard somewhere in the world putting
up a somewhat questionable statuary. One time, a guy erected
a giant middle finger outside the freeway for all to see.
But guess what art is protected on their First Amendment
right to free speech? And I suspect Elicott Maryland is

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going to quickly find themselves disappointed.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Stand with a peach, stand with the eggplants.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Here on ninety three WIBC Saturday Night on the Circle,
Stay tuned, indeed, indeed the world.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
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Speaker 5 (38:55):
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I'm your bohemian codure Ethan Hatcher. And if you've missed
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Speaker 5 (39:36):
This segment, I wanted to talk about the Democrats and
the ways that their policies manifestly endanger your life and livelihoods,
a conclusion that cannot be ignored when you have a
vowed leftists like Governor Tim Walls, who has now signed
into law a bill which will grant anyone, anyone at all,

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within the borders of their state, free driver's licenses.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
They don't even have to be a citizen.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Just any old person, walk on in, get your driver's
license up.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
There in Tim Walls, Tim Walls districts.

Speaker 10 (40:13):
It's done.

Speaker 32 (40:15):
A packed room at the Saint Paul Armory erupted after
the Governor's signature made driver's license for all all of
the land.

Speaker 26 (40:25):
So we give driver's licenses to anyone here.

Speaker 17 (40:29):
You don't have to be a citizen.

Speaker 26 (40:30):
You don't have to which is a photo ID. So
if someone comes in, they register, they have the driver's license,
but they have an incorrect social or no social or whatever,
so then they become incomplete. But if they walk in
to vote with their driver's license, is that make them

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all of a sudden?

Speaker 27 (40:52):
Now, okay, it's truly.

Speaker 22 (40:55):
New vetom chair. So the Designate on the roster for
someone whose registration had been incomplete, if they present the
election judge with that acceptable identification document, that would clear
the challenge from the roster and they would be permitted
to cast a ballot.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
They're straight from the mouth of legislators. By granting this
photo ID, they are potentially put placing a cloud on
the integrity of elections because by merely producing an ID
at the time at any polling location, under the standard
laws as they're currently being enacted, would grant you access

(41:39):
to participate in the elections. This is a crisis of
election integrity and is a frightening peek into the duplicity
of leftists who are attempting to manipulate and rig the
system for their own ends. And let's not also ignore
the fact that by giving a driver's license to any

(42:00):
one with no conditions significantly endangers the citizens by putting
unqualified people in control of multi ton machines.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Flying down the road.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
We had a few incidents of this, in fact, ice agents.
I believe it was in Oklahoma. You'll hear in the
news report they pulled over a semi truck driver who
was granted a commercial driver's license, a CDL up in
the state of New York, and like a scene straight
out of Idiocracy, his name was none given on the license.

Speaker 33 (42:37):
You know, Director Lyons, I saw something that startled me.
That was Ice arresting an Indian national, an illegal alien,
operating an eighteen wheeler in Oklahoma. And you can see
on your screen now he was carrying a New York
state issued commercial driver's license. It could also be used
as a real ID. His first name was listed as
quote no name given. That's literally a real ID he

(43:00):
was arrested with. I Meanwhile, Ice is arrested at least
ninety one illegals operating commercial vehicles following that deadly crash
back in August.

Speaker 11 (43:10):
Yeah, it's really scary, Griff. And you know, like you said,
to see that on a driver's license issue by a state,
no name given. And the worst part, there's a real
ID star right up there in the corner. I don't
know about you all, but it was like going through
a security clariance for me to get my real ID.
So I can't believe that we're giving illegal aliens who
have no right to be here in these driver's license
You have these sanctuary states that want to go ahead

(43:30):
and try to just make it welcoming for these people
that we don't know who they are.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Like Lloyds Man. It is really spooky.

Speaker 10 (43:38):
Yeah, this doesn't feel safe.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Let's get out of here here, Producer Jack, I got
a question for you, and don't worry, and I'm putting
you on the spot. But this is a real, real
easy one to answer. What is ID an abbreviation for
what does ID stand for? Producer Jack, give a real
hard thing, real hard and long. Think there.

Speaker 10 (44:00):
Identification?

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Identification. You are freaking right identification. Thank you, producer Jack.
That was a real easy question. See, I wasn't gonna
put you.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
On the spot. I knew you'd had it in you.
Yeah yeah, okay, so so correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
But if ID is short for identification, if you provide
no name given and that's put on the license, does
that identify you in any way? No?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
No, no it doesn't. And that's a real ID.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
That okay, the real ID that that little blue star
in the upright hand corner of your license, if you
happen to.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Have one yet I still don't.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
The last time I went in to renew my license,
I forgot to bring with me a couple of pieces
of mail, my Social Security card and either my passport
or birth certificate. You got to bring in a variety
of documents just to get this endorsement that will allow
you to enter some federal buildings as well as fly
on an airplane. And the State of New York just
gave this illegal migrant a real ID with no name given.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
That is fright.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
And then he was operating an eighteen wheeler, something we've
seen put in put citizens in danger, especially after that
truck driver did an illegal U turn killing a family
in Florida, and since that time, more than ninety illegal
immigrants across the United States in charge of semi trucks
have been arrested. We had an incidence of this up

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in Northern Indiana on the turnpike next to Chicago, when
I think it was mac Logistics LLC, a truck driving company,
was spotted this truck driver driving the wrong way on
the freeway. Producer Jack Mount See, this is real easy
here in the United States of America.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
You drive on the right hand side of the road.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
But evidently this guy didn't know that in charge of
an eighteen wheel semi truck. Now how he got this
on the wrong way of the turnpike.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Who's to know.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
But fortunately he was caught by another eagle eyed truck
driver who stopped him and then reported him.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
What are you doing?

Speaker 24 (46:04):
You?

Speaker 10 (46:06):
But let me ask you a question.

Speaker 23 (46:13):
Man, You are going the wrong way down the freeway.
You are committing a felony right now?

Speaker 24 (46:23):
What?

Speaker 22 (46:25):
Well?

Speaker 23 (46:25):
One, why the fuck going the wrong way down the freeway?

Speaker 21 (46:30):
Let that right?

Speaker 10 (46:30):
I'm coming.

Speaker 23 (46:34):
Well, no, I'm I'm just asking because I'm wondering. But
I that's like, yeah, turn around when you have a
clear spot.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Don't even move your truck.

Speaker 23 (46:49):
Turn your hazard lights on the one.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Turn your hazard lights on now, your hazard lights, your.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
Bleakers, your bleakers, your hat, turn your hand jeer, Okay, really.

Speaker 10 (47:08):
I gotta get out of here. I think I'm gonna
lose it.

Speaker 30 (47:11):
Uh oh, sounds like somebody's got a case of the munders.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Driving the wrong way on the freeway with an eighteen
wheel semi truck is a very real and present danger
to society when you were putting people in charge of
these multi ton vehicles that can't even speak or read
the language proficiently, who don't know and understand our laws,
who may not have even been required to pass basic

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safety tests if they've been granted a license in some
of these liberal states, to be in charge of a
vehicle is putting citizens in clear and present danger, something
that Democrats are incredibly blase and callous about. And if
you needed any more reinforcement, Fortunately that truck driver was
caught in the act before he could do great damage.

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But unfortunately, another illegal immigrant here in the state of
India Yana, managed to kill a small family while he
was illegally driving a semi truck with a license that
he had a suspended license that he had gotten from
another family member.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
A gentleman by the name of.

Speaker 34 (48:17):
Brock Stankovich a deadly crash that left one person dead
another arrested plise a semi driver, Brokostankovich here swerved into
oncoming traffic, hitting.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
A subaru head on.

Speaker 34 (48:29):
The fifty four year old driver was pronounced dead at
the scene. Investigators say Stankovich did not have a valid
commercial driver's license and was using a suspended license belonging
to a family member. He is now charged with reckless homicide,
among other charges. He's been held on an ice detainer
due to his immigration status.

Speaker 10 (48:49):
Who I would live here?

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Get him out there in prison first and then deport immediately.
This is unacceptable and it's an epidemic, an out growth
from sanctuary cities that were once allowed to openly flout
immigration law now becoming centers of danger for average citizens
as they move ever forward down the path of leftism,

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now giving a commercial driver's license licenses to foreigners who
have no business operating those vehicles on roads because they
cannot operate them safely, something that has led to loss
of life across the country, a direct result of negligent
Democrat policies. You're listening to Saturday Night on the Circle.

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Coming up next, you'll hear the disgraced Supreme Court Justice
Katanji Brown Jackson arguing for racism, Yes, for racism here
in the United States because she supports race based districting
for congressional maps in America. And you'll hear more about
that coming up next. So stay tuned. This is the

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one and only ninety three Wibcriday Night on the Circle.

Speaker 14 (50:03):
Yellow room with black curtains in the station, blackout country,
no co payment, tired stalling.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
You're listening to Saturday Night on the Circle on ninety
three WYPC.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Thanks for listening. To Saturday Night on the Circle.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
In this segment, I wanted to discuss the Supreme Court
oral arguments that are currently being considered regarding Section two
of the nineteen sixty five Voters Rights Act. And Section
two deals with race based gerrymandering, prohibiting congressional districts from
diluting minority votes in order to create a predetermined outcome.

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But a curious byproduct of Section two allows specifically race
based redistrict on the grounds that it is a counterbalance
to an over represented white majority, and this has been
implemented in the state of Louisiana where it's being challenged.
They had a majority African American district. This was considered

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inaccurate by leftists in Louisiana, and a second district of
African American majority was drawn to secure another predetermined outcome
in favor of the Democrats, or so they believe, because
they often couch all minorities or Democrats as uniform and
thought and votes that are automatically owed to Democrats, and so,

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as a byproduct of this voting rights law and the
vicious desire of leftists to doggedly retain power, now you
are hearing the Justice Katanji Brown Jackson arguing ironically in
favor of race based districts, and some of her arguments

(51:58):
are truly comic, including comparing African Americans to disabled people,
which you'll hear in just a moment.

Speaker 18 (52:05):
I don't understand why your answer to Justice Pagan's question
about is this a compelling state interest is no. The
answer is obviously yes, that you have an interest in
remedying the effects of racial discrimination that we identify using
this tool. Whether you go too far in your remedy
is another.

Speaker 25 (52:24):
Issue, right.

Speaker 35 (52:25):
I think step zero in all these cases.

Speaker 21 (52:27):
It was certainly step zero in the Robinson litigation is
the plaintiffs came in and said we want another majority
black district.

Speaker 18 (52:33):
I thought they came in and said we are not
receiving equal electoral opportunity because our votes are being diluted,
which is the same way of saying we deserve a No,
it's not because that again, just trust me on this.
The second electoral or the second district is a remedy
that one could offer for a problem that we've identified,

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and the whole Robinson litigation was about identifying the problem.

Speaker 35 (53:01):
Leading shires up broken glass.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
One more minute with you possibly the stupidest woman to
ever take the bench at the Supreme Court. Katanji Brown
Jackson now arguing in favor of race based districts. This
is a perversion of the Voting Rights Act. And note
how both parties in this case, Democrats and Republicans, are
attempting to weaponize the redistricting process so they can achieve

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a political goal, because the goal here is not equality.
The goal here is to achieve a predetermined outcome by
monkeying with the districts, by creating race based districts that
they hope they will be able to control the outcome here,
and Katanji Brown Jackson does not want to dilute that

(53:51):
power for Democrats, which is why she is so doggedly
attempting to defend the idea of creating exclusively race based districts. Now,
this is an argument that would ever fly if it
was a let's say, white majority district. This only applies
to minority majority districts as a counterbalance. They say it's
a counterbalance to the dilution of minority votes in Congress

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by creating these race based districts and hopefully propel Democrat
elected leaders into office. This is the same argument that's
essentially being offered by Indiana Republicans who are attempting to
engage in redistricting here in the state by saying, well,
we're just trying to rig the system as a counterbalance
to the Democrat states which have also rigged the system.

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And look how the discussion spirals when both parties are
engaging in this political diatribe. And here Katanji Brown Jackson
ironically says something that's incredibly racist and incredibly insulting when
she compares being black, the nature of blackness itself to disability.

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So there have to be special provisions, you see that
are made for African Americans, just like the Americans with
Disabilities Act. What a strange thing to say that came
straight from the mind of justice, Katanji Brown Jackson.

Speaker 18 (55:15):
I'm thinking of it of the fact that remedial action
absent discriminatory intent is really not a new idea in
the civil rights laws. And my kind of paradigmatic example
of this is something like the Ada Congress passed the
Americans with Disabilities Act against the backdrop of a world

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that was generally not accessible to people with disabilities, and
so it was discriminatory in effect. Because these folks were
not able to access these buildings, and it didn't matter
whether the person who built the building or the person
who owned the building intended for them to be exclusionary.

(55:58):
That's irrelevant, Congress, is the facilities have to be made
equally open to people with disabilities, if readily possible. I
guess I don't understand why that's not what's happening here.

Speaker 10 (56:11):
Why yes, who?

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Blackness is a disability in the mind of leftist What
a warped way to view the world. But it is
a peak into their very disturbed mindset. And here you
hear NAACP lawyer Jeni Nelson also arguing in favor of
race based district but she makes a slip up because
she's discussing particularly the outcome because voters within their districts

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were not supporting Democrat candidates. And that is the problem
in the mind of leftists, not this great battle for
equality or racial equity but in America, but rather a
predetermined outcome that favors Democrat elected leaders.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
That's the dirty little secret.

Speaker 27 (57:02):
Right And in the state of Louisiana. That analysis was
conducted in the Narn case, and it was clear that
regardless of party. White Democrats were not voting for black candidates,
whether they were Democrats or not. And we know that
there is such a significant chasm between how black and
white voters vote in Louisiana that there's no question that

(57:26):
even if there is some correlation between race and party,
that race is the driving factor.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
So bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if that pays.

Speaker 10 (57:35):
Off for them.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
So in order to combat racism in the mind of
the justice, they must embrace racism, specifically race based redistricting
in order to favor leftist politicians. That's the game that
they're attempting to play, and their employment of racism to
achieve their predetermined ends is not a coincidence, because in

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the minds of leftists, minorities of any stripe can not
be racist to a white majority or to any other nationality.
Something that you heard on the Piers Morgan Show when
he had a guest tell him outright that it's impossible
for a black woman to be racist against a white woman.
Now you can respond, women cannot be racist to white women.

Speaker 8 (58:18):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Sorry? That makes no sense.

Speaker 21 (58:20):
Sorry, black cannot be racist to white women.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Do you not understand?

Speaker 28 (58:26):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I can you don't have to intellection. Oh yes, I
can understand that, Oh.

Speaker 10 (58:29):
Yes, I can very much.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
And you've been racist to me. That's very much. You've
been racist to me, a white man by saying I'm
a yeah, a racist to you. I'm black. I can't
be racist. You tol me a race. No evidence to me?
When have I been? You can be racist to me?
When have I been?

Speaker 8 (58:46):
A use?

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Tell me whouse.

Speaker 19 (58:50):
What you just said is one of the most insanely
idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in
your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything
that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this
room is now dumber for having listened to it. I
award you no points, and may God have mercy on

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your soul.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
This whole discussion reminds me of something that the late
the great L. Rushbo Rush Limbaugh used to discuss on
his program frequently. And Man, the more I grow up,
the more I reflect how right rush Limbaugh was decades ago.
He truly was ahead of the curve. He saw all
this coming from a mile away, and he tried to

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warn people that this was going to happen. But what
he discussed was the quote soft bigotry of low expectations.
And that's what's being put on display here to such
an extent that you heard from the mouth of Katanji
Brown Jackson. She believes blackness or any sort of minority
status is inherently itself a disability that must be remedied.

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This is the soft bigotry of low expectations. Thanks for
listening to ninety three WIBC Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Night on the Circle. Stay tuned for.

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More sky like a tag and the file The load
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Speaker 10 (01:00:19):
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Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Welcome back to Saturday Night on the Circle. I'm your
bespectacled curmudgeon Ethan Hatcher. And that's Producer Jack on the board,
pushing the buttons intoing the things to make the show function,
Producer Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Last week, we.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Of course, were partially preempted by Sports Getball, so I
didn't get to discuss the sordid tale of Hassan Piker.
Have you heard of this leftist twitch streamer who's recently
run a foul of some pretty major controversy. Okay, he
is apparently the nephew of chunk unger the the main

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main brain child behind the Young Turks, another noteworthy liberal
think tank on YouTube, if you can call it that anyway.
Hassan Piker was recently caught on stream apparently shocking his dog, Kaya,
who he is using as a prop in the background
of his streams. This is his little dog that is forced

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to stay on this tiny lake two by two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Foot pad for hours at a time.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
And people kind of wondered, why isn't this dog moving,
Why isn't the dog, you know, going and walking around in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
These multi hour long streams.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Wells, because apparently Hassan Piker was shocking him, and here
was the clip that originally got him in trouble. You'll
hear the dog yelp in pain as he attempts to
put her in her place.

Speaker 36 (01:01:48):
Of all of America's much more consequential violence.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Okay, it's the.

Speaker 36 (01:01:55):
Same reason as to why America, Kaya.

Speaker 10 (01:01:58):
Please just swang you stop?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
So you heard the upris What are you doing?

Speaker 36 (01:02:05):
You're being such a baby. It's just you're making her stressed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
She just literally is so incredibly spoiled from my mom.

Speaker 36 (01:02:18):
No, she doesn't want to come over here to see
what's up.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
She just wants to roam the house because she got
to roam the house when I was gone, and she
needs to literally have the.

Speaker 36 (01:02:28):
Same structured, regimented.

Speaker 24 (01:02:36):
Like.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
That's already a pretty curious thing to say, because my
dog is spoiled because my mom let the dog walk
around the house. You mean, like any other animal or
pet that you own, you would let them walk around
the house. They're not just a piece of decoration for
you to put on your stream, although evidently he thinks
thinks they are. And this ignited a fire storm, a

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bipartisan fire storm, even because even leftists their pets and
love their animals and don't like to see them harmed
from people who are supposed to take care of them.
And in an attempt to cover this all up, Hassan said, well,
that's not a shock collar.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
It's a vibrating collar.

Speaker 36 (01:03:12):
This is the one that people are talking about. Okay,
this is the one. This is the this is the
one that they saw. It has the capacity to vibrate,
and that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Are you happy?

Speaker 36 (01:03:26):
That's it good. There's the air tag, there's the thang vibrator.
It also uses It also has a flashlight component to
it at nighttime, and it also has a tracker on
it when she gets lost.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
If she were to actually.

Speaker 36 (01:03:41):
Get lost, you are able to emits the sound.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Okay, you're a liar.

Speaker 10 (01:03:50):
You're a liar.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
You know something that you're not telling us, You slimy,
scumbag liar.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
Now, Hassan made a pretty severe mistake because he actually
put the real collar on camera. Now, he attempted to
disguise the fact that it was a shot collar because
he put a piece of electrical tape over the prongs
that released the shot into the animal's body. He removed that,
cut it off whatever, and then put a piece of

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electrical tape over that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Now we have done. People have done internet slewthing.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
They were able to identify the specific make and model
of this shot collar. And now even the manufacturer educator
callers has said that looks like the load to medium
power our ex zero nine zero receiver that comes with
most of our units out of the box, looks like
someone cut the off the contact points and put tape
over it to maybe cover up any rough edges left

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for cutting, instead of just replacing the contact points. So
now the truth is out and Hassan Piker is melting
under the pressure. This is hysterical. He had a full
meltdown on stream just earlier this week.

Speaker 35 (01:05:00):
I can't stand any of you dump for in this
rank damn Chad, oh my frank God. I hate I
hate the left, I hate liberalism, I hate everything that's
going on every single da dayn week. I just I
hate my life. I hate for dreaming, I hate socialism.
I hate every single or in person who thinks that
the peak of activism is just being the most annoying,

(01:05:21):
holier thou, holier than thou, the most ultimately woke leftist
is just it's you did it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
You did it. You have unlocked nihilism within me. Okay,
I am blackpilled. Nothing will ever get better. We are
never gonna make it out.

Speaker 35 (01:05:32):
We can't even have a normal, non hostile or damn
conversation on any of these issues. Everybody just simply wants
to for canterurp into the wind because they have no power,
and they recognize their utter powerlessness in the face of
unjustifiable constructs that we exist under.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
And the best possible thing you can do is just
be damn annoying.

Speaker 36 (01:05:50):
Okay, Oh boy, that escalated quickly.

Speaker 10 (01:05:57):
I mean that really got out of hand fast. It
jumped up a notch. It did, didn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Old Piker is withering under the pressure, so we got
to keep it up. Don't let this guy get away
with it, because the dog doesn't deserve abuse. No, no
animal deserves to be abused by its owner, who is
charged with the utmost important task to protect and care
for those animals in their stead Thanks for listening to
Saturday Night on the Circle. Coming up next, going to

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replay a conversation I had on the Kendle and Casey
Show where we did a little bit of over the
air therapy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
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Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
Welcome back to the program, ladies and gentlemen. The final
segment of this evening show, Saturday Night on the Circle
where I'm your bespectacled griumudgeon Ethan Hatcher, and I want
to send a special shout out to all you and
listener land who've spent your time with me this evening
listening to the show on ninety three WIBC. You're hopping
in the chat on the YouTube machine when you could
be spending your Saturday evening doing literally anything else. You

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chose to spend that time with me, and I truly
appreciate it. That's one hell of an endorsement that I
don't take for granted. So thanks for tuning in and
listening to the show. We're now over halfway through the
month of October, and you know that means spooky season
is upon us very shortly. We're going to have little
ghouls and goblins knocking on our doors demanding candy, and

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everybody is asking the all important question, what do you
plan to dress up as for Halloween?

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
I was filling in this week on the kenl and
Case Show and Rob and I discussed that a bit
for our final segment on Friday, but in the process
it inadvertently turned into a bit of a on air
therapy session.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I bared my soul and talked.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
A little bit about my extremely weird and unique upbringing
that I wanted to share with you one more time. Okay,
when you were a kid, you dress up for Halloween.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
I wasn't allowed to. Jehovah's Witnesses are allergic to fun.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
I was raised in the religious culture of Jehovah's Witnesses,
and they don't celebrate any holidays Christmas, Birthdays, Thanksgiving, Halloween.
I used to be terrified of Halloween because I thought
that's when all the demons came out and the really
nasty worldly people, you know. So like what Halloween when
like you're like, where there's school events or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I didn't go to school. I wasn't allowed to go
to school.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
I was a homeschooled last why this is why I'm
so damaged.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Its fascinating. But how to do this segment?

Speaker 23 (01:08:52):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Okay, so, like, did your parents acknowledge Halloween?

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Well, of course Halloween exists. We always made sure to
keep the porch light off to anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
There's no candy here. Children.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
Did you ever get into it with your parents about
wanting to dress up and go out on Halloween?

Speaker 23 (01:09:08):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
No, because disagreements is not allowed. So you know, but
were you, like an actual believer it? This is not
where I intended to go with this segment at all,
but now I'm fascinated. So like, were did you ever
say but I want to or or in your mind
where you like I wanted to do this?

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Or were you a true believer?

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Was a true believer when when I was a kid,
because of course that's the only thing that's in your reality,
is what you're being told from your parents or in
my case parent because I was raised by my mother
as a only child.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
But but yeah, no, I I I totally was a believer.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
I bought in Now as an adult, have you ever
gone to a Halloween anything? Yes, a couple of times.
But it's it's just like Christmas. It's hard to get
into the spirit of the season when you don't have
the nostalgia from your youth to look back on. That's
what ties so many people to these events is the
fact that they, you know, were surrounded or from it
when when they were from a young age, and when
you take that away, it's just I find.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
It difficult to get into it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
Yeah, because like with Christmas, obviously, the birth of Jesus
is the center of Christmas. But from a you know,
a commercialistic perspective side of it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
It's for kids, right.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
It's Santa Claus, it's you go to the it's unwrapping presence,
president of the tree. So like, as an adult, I
don't mean to do like some dive here. But as
an adult, are you like I hate that I never
got to go see Santa Claus?

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean that would be so I feel
like I got cheated, got Rob. Yeah, but I would
be miserable about that. It's amazing you turn out to
be as productive a human being as you have.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Oh, I'll tell you how messed up it was, Rob,
Because I told you I was a homeschool That's true
for all of but one year I was sent to
the sixth grade as a punishment because I was not
living up to the expectations that were set for me
in homeschooling. And I did so well in public school
and really enjoyed it that I was taken out of
public school the following year also as a punishment.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
That's horrible.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
Wait wait, so so like when Jehovah's witnesses homeschool, Like
where there's a group of you that are in the
schooling together. Not all Jovah's witnesses our homeschool because Jehovah's
witnesses demographically tend to be very poor, so not everybody
could afford to homeschool their children and must rely on
public education. That was just my personal health, were you,
by your subjected to Yes, I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Was an only child.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Yes, I mean you spent hours and hours and hours
and hours and hours of my life alone. Yeah, so
you my gosh, I wasn't trying to go to any
of this with this segment, but now I can't get
off of it. It's supposed to be on Halloween costumes.
But wait, so like what your mother was your teacher? Yeah,
and it was just just you. It wasn't like a
group like a five kids in a room or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
It was just me. And so she got mad.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
At you and sent you to public school as a punishment.
And then you loved it because like your round kids,
it's fun like you, Like I did really well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
I was like good with the teachers. I got pretty
good grades.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
I you know, I wanted to be part of like
the school theater, which I wasn't allowed to because it
conflicted with meeting time, with going to the Kingdom Hall
on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
That that you were having too much fun and she
yanked you out.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Yeah, my gosh, the fact that you're not a in
a federal prison somewhere is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Ethan, let's thank you out. That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
I have just I mean, like I knew you had
some tumultuous things. I didn't know like to the extent
that it was things like this.

Speaker 10 (01:12:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
No, we welcome to the wonderful wide world, wacky world
of Jehovah's Witnesses. One time, because I wasn't living up
to her expectations, she sent me to my room to
be alone for ten days, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Was allowed to come out for dinner.

Speaker 16 (01:12:36):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Of course I got to have dinner. But I mean
I didn't go to school. I got to go to church,
of course they don't call it church. Got to go
to the Kingdom Hall, you know, Monday's Thursdays. Talk about
or are you just immune to it at this point?
Just to mean too it just just just part of
the fact about it. Yeah, Well, I mean it's things
that happened because like as a kid, my mother now
she denies she did this now, but she totally did this.

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She would like dis plan me, but make my dad
do the actual disciplining. So like Robert, go to your room,
You're you're gonna be a big trouble when your dad
gets home. But I would be in my room for
like an hour. Now, she pretended it all herself because
she divorced my father when I was still an infant.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
So yeah, but I was like it was ten days.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
It was like an hour to worth the punishment and
a stern lecture for my father, and then everybody goes
about their you know, merry business and all as well.

Speaker 10 (01:13:23):
Ten days.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Yeah, well, what can I say? I got to read,
I had library books.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
Yeah, okay, Well, the point of all this picture were
supposed to be Halloween costumes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Where we started here.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Fox News has a list of the top Halloween costume
searches for this year. I've got to admit they're all
from this same It's a show. It's a movie that
did very well. I kind of want to see it.
I've never heard of it. It's on Netflix. It's K
Pop Demon Hunters, okay, and they're like characters the top five. Yeah,
there's supposed to be a kids movie of some sort, right,

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because this is obviously an animated commuter animated film, right,
and then so the top five or all of these
characters from this K Pop Demon Hunters movie.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
And then, uh, I.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Don't know, I honestly don't know who anybody any of
these top nine are. Chicken Jockey from Minecraft. I know,
I know who that is. That was a computer game
when I was a kid. Well, it's still very popular.
It's one of the most popular games in the world,
behind Ropeblocks. I think love Boo Boo.

Speaker 7 (01:14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Those are those creepy new little dolls. They're like the
furbies of the twenty two Derby the Tiger. Also from
the K Pop Demon Hunters. Yeah, el Faba from Wicked. Yeah,
and Glinda she was less popular though, uh is witch?

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Yeah, Glinda's the cherry one. L Faba is the bad witch.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
Okay, so the so the Good Witch of the North
was was She's less popular?

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
And then I know, did you see people in Indiana?
I think it was fort Wayne Is dressing up like
Donnie Darko and made the list. Yeah you didn't see
two thousand and one's Donnie Darko. That was a cult movie. Yeah, No,
I never saw it, but I know of the movie.
It is a weird movie, a weird character. It's it's
just kind of funny that made the list at all
because it's more than twenty years old now and now
I do No. Number ten the Lorax. That's doctor sus Okay,

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so that's your top kid for the trees. Yeah, I
think like, uh, I don't even know it was number
one when I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Probably grouse show marks. Keep addressing up. I'm not three
years old.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Well, I mean, but everybody has the glasses in the
nose with the mustache, everybody blown or something like that. Well,
that was a terribly uplifting way to end our program today.
Thank you for bearing your soul to the audience. Evan,
you did a great job filling in this week.

Speaker 28 (01:15:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
That's all the time I got, Ladies and gentlemen. If
you miss a moment of tonight's episode, make sure to
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words of wisdom in the meantime, wherever you are, whoever

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you're with, whatever you're doing, remember that life is a
state of mind. Thanks for listening, and I'll see you
next week.